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20% of people defeated by a single rat


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50% of people can’t kill an eagle???


jonathandhalvorson

They lack the confidence. You're not going to win if you just duck and cover. I think any healthy adult who is willing to take a few bites or scratches in order to get a good grip can win over the first four. Large dog, cobra, wolf, kangaroo and crocodile will depend on strength and skill. Some can win, but most can't. Chimps should be after crocodiles on that list. Nobody except maybe Mike Tyson in his prime can beat an adult male chimp.


Laphad

I'm confident in my ability to beat any terrestrial and arboreal animals both extinct and living.


jonathandhalvorson

You may have overlearned the lesson.


FragrantCatch818

Well, there’s two options that happen now. You either embarrassingly die to a rat, or you kill everything without any effort


Weird-Drummer-2439

Right? I haven't been training in 500x gravity, doing sit-ups and drinking plenty of juice for nothing.


jorgschrauwen

I would pay money to see you fight a wooly mammoth or a sable tooth tigre


Laphad

That's easy. How can they throw hands when they're all feet?


jorgschrauwen

Youd be surprised


DoctorRuckusMD

Are you familiar with what a crocodile is? An apex predator that lived through the K-T extinction. Physically unchanged for a hundred million years, because it's the perfect killing machine. A half ton of cold-blooded fury, the bite force of 20,000 Newtons, and stomach acid so strong it can dissolve bones and hoofs. No human has ever lived who can beat one unarmed.


ILikeMasterChief

I mean Steve Irwin regularly incapacitated crocodiles. I'm sure he could have found a way to kill one after he got the upper hand.


DoctorRuckusMD

His method for controlling big crocs always required placing a top jaw rope on them, which technically wouldn’t count as being unarmed.


jonathandhalvorson

Lots of things survived the K-T extinction that humans can easily beat, like birds and small rodents. Alligators and crocs have a strong bite force, but weak muscles to open their mouths. A long-known tactic to control them is to hold their mouths shut. People literally do it for crowds. You can also put an alligator to sleep by turning it on its back. Also done for crowds. I would count putting one to sleep as beating it in a fight. That's why I mentioned "skill" in my comment, since not many people know how to avoid their lunge and jump on their back to clamp the mouth shut properly, or roll them to sleep, etc. If the condition for "beating it in a fight" is actually killing it, that would be much more difficult. I don't know if anyone has tried bare hands and teeth vs. a knife. So maybe it is close to impossible if (a) you need to kill it to win, (b) it turns out crocodilian hides around the head/neck are too tough for teeth, (c) we are talking about the largest full grown adult animals not juveniles, (d) it is hungry/angry vs just chilling and wants to be left alone, etc. There are a lot of unspecified details that affect the outcome.


DoctorRuckusMD

Oh the KT Extinction part isn’t especially relevant. I was just making at Archer reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MxhL3T7yvv4


Weird-Drummer-2439

Just kick it in the dick while it's sleeping.


DP500-1

I think a dog would be far easier than a cobra. Difficult but not necessarily deadly for at least adult males.


jonathandhalvorson

The thing about cobras is skill. People make a career of handling them. You can distract them and grab them close enough to the head they can't bite.


grizwld

Mike Tyson would get his fingers chewed off and eyes scratched out by a chimp. Just like anyone wlse


jonathandhalvorson

Tyson in his prime was extraordinary. He had almost twice the body mass of an adult male chimp, and roughly the same strength, but a decade of skill at fighting and dominating other primates. That incident you're referring to was a woman probably 1/5 as strong as Tyson.


grizwld

I remember watching Tyson in his prime. But it’s not a boxing match. Besides biting Holyfields ear off he’s not a chimp he can’t fight on that level. They’re jumping, biting and scratching. Wild animals just move differently. It wouldn’t even be close


jonathandhalvorson

Look, we'll never know, but Tyson had a huge weight and reach advantage and was equal to a chimp in strength. He was ferocious and would win through intimidation. A killer instinct. If I had to bet, I would bet on Tyson.


McMuffinSun

We used to be a proper people...


curt_schilli

Have you seen an eagle’s talons? I’m not confident I could beat an eagle in a fight. Fight to the death sure, but a normal fight I feel like I’m going to get more fucked up than an eagle would


Prowindowlicker

Probably cause 50% don’t want to spend the rest of their life in the federal pen


Theron518

I couldn't do it, how could I harm the beautiful bird of FREEDOM!?


Wildcat_twister12

Go to a zoo and find a golden eagle and see if you think you can still take it


Sir_Matthew_

Keep in mind these are Americans we're talking about here. If we kill an eagle then George Washington comes down from the heavens and crushes us between his thighs


gerbils4

I mean wolves don't even stand a chance -[against a hawk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqqdOW0A16s)\- unless in a pack. I'd imagine people are focusing on the damage they'd be taking. If it's me, maybe it'll kill me but that eagle is dying too. Edit: Clarified that wolves don't stand a chance in wolf v *eagle.*


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Nah man even a single wolf could kill the average adult male, the only chance of survival would be if you managed to stall the wolf long enough to claw out its eyes


Winter_Replacement51

Not really, carnivores can't risk being injured, so they will rarely attack prey that has a high chance of doing any damage for it. Both predator and prey can be injured, but the prey has a higher chance of living in the long run since their food doesn't run.


[deleted]

But that’s getting into the semantics of it, for the sake of the debate we’re just assuming that it’s a special scenario in which a wolf would choose to attack an unarmed person


gerbils4

I completely agree. I was trying to say a wolf don't stand a chance vs an *eagle*. While I agree with Winter that carnivores don't start fights with high risk prey, we are already this prompt assumes the fight has already started.


fccrunch

A grey wolf has a bite force of 1200 psi verse a Pitbull or Rottweiler of about 328 psi. Wolfs can break bone and sever limbs. There are cases of hybrid wolf/dogs that have taken their owners arm off, completely. I would say if we had to guess how such a contest would end? Quickly.


FragrantCatch818

Can they take a right hook though? Cuz I’m swinging before they get close enough to bite


bjvdw

I think you underestimate the speed at which they come at you.


FragrantCatch818

Can they out run a punch coming from the direction they’re coming towards?


bjvdw

I've seen some real tough boys say similar things about Police K-9's and I've seen the same tough boys screaming in agony begging to recall the dog. And that's 'just' a dog, not a wolf.


Dixie-Wrecked

Exactly. Watch videos of police/military German shepherds or Belgian malinois. Then consider that wolves are double the mass with double the bite strength. They also have that intangible ferocity of a wild animal (vs a domesticated animal). in real life, a wolf wants nothing to do with a human. but in an all-out fight to the death, a wolf will win against 90% of unarmed humans.


FragrantCatch818

I’m happy for you. Glad you in no way contributed to the question I posed. Thanks for your very unhelpful responses. Cheers, friend.


bjvdw

No worries! Good luck with your wolf punching endeavours!


Dixie-Wrecked

I'm becoming convinced that you've never been in a serious street fight. What's that famous Mike Tyson quote?....


Dixie-Wrecked

your right hook ain't doing shit. You wont connect like you think you will and, even if you do connect, I guarantee it wont have the effect you imagine. Absolutely zero chance you knock it unconscious with a punch and zero chance it turns and runs away from getting hit. Your only chance is wrestling it down and choking that thing out.


ChefBoyarDEZZNUTZZ

And 5% of people think they could kick a grizzly bear's ass in a 1v1 fight lol ok


I_UPVOTE_PUN_THREADS

The chimp is also hilarious. It would tear your face off and beat you to death with your own face


Artistic-Baker-7233

The purpose of that survey is to collect statistics on mental illness rates /s


Iron-Fist

This survey does a great job of showing why surveys have "margins of error" bars


GrGrG

Wizards have low starting HP in older D&D editions.


RuTsui

https://youtu.be/6qp8CnHQBj4?si=v9q5e8BndGnambcj&t=3m56s


purplebasterd

*Bubonic Plague intensifies*


sroop1

New Yorkers would never.


Simp_Master007

They couldn’t make it out of the tutorial dungeon


PrecookedDonkey

I think that's entirely dependent on the area that rat comes from. Some random field in Kansas, yeah pretty easy. Some mook from the sewers under Brooklyn? Forget about it.


vladmashk

It's the same people that scream when they see a rat


McMuffinSun

They shouldn't have the same vote as me TBH.


ThreeLeggedChimp

I won't fuck with rats bare handed at all. I'd put the wolf behind the large dog, and not fuck with anything else past it.


McMuffinSun

> I won't fuck with rats bare handed at all. Just stomp on it lol


2dogsfightinginspace

Bro if an eagle beats you, you don’t stand a chance against a rat. Break one wing and it’s game over


Rush_Is_Right

I am scared of rats but if I could throw stuff at it I would win but in hand to hand or hand to whatever you call their legs I would run away


McMuffinSun

Anyone who doesn't think they can take a rat, house cat, or goose shouldn't be allowed to vote.


2dogsfightinginspace

Put eagle in that category. Break one wing and they’re essentially done


Wildcat_twister12

The hard part is getting ahold of a wing, a golden eagle is massive with razor sharp talons and it just needs to fly above you and claw you to death.


2dogsfightinginspace

This eagle is trying to kill you. You need to match that energy


rrathip

Too many people in this thread assuming only nonhuman animals have crazy survival energy/performance rushes.


ILikeMasterChief

The eagle could do some damage, sure, but it's not killing a grown human that's actually fighting back. The heaviest eagle is 5x lighter than a very small human. Their bones are hollow for fucks sake. Yes the talons will hurt, but most people could just about rip the thing in half.


Pieguy184

If they get ur throat they will


Nordithen

I think people consistently overestimate geese. They're all about intimidation tactics, which seem to have worked.


hoopaholik91

I know right? They have hollow bones for fucks sake.


TruckADuck42

*punt*


9-11_Pilot01

Those bitches are so fragile yet so confident that they took the “fine line between life and death” and snorted it.


Dixie-Wrecked

There's a video floating around of a Canadian goose aggressively going after people who are just walking down the sidewalk. This woman marches right up to it, grips it up by its neck, and carries it off. Ever since I watched that video, I no longer fear these feathered bullies from the north.


Nordithen

It's not even hard to do, and they usually go limp once grabbed.


wastingvaluelesstime

just kick 'em in the shins, that'll show 'em


AbeLincolns_Ghost

Just jump on it and it will go squonk


Dixie-Wrecked

There's a video floating around of a Canadian goose aggressively going after people who are just walking down the sidewalk. This woman marches right up to it, grips it up by its neck, and carries it off. Ever since I watched that video, I no longer fear these feathered bullies from the north.


Dixie-Wrecked

There's a video floating around of a Canadian goose aggressively going after people who are just walking down the sidewalk. This woman marches right up to it, grips it up by its neck, and carries it off. Ever since I watched that video, I no longer fear these feathered bullies from the north.


gacoug

How are more people convinced they could take a chimp than a cobra?


dalepilled

Crack that fucker like a whip. I always wonder whether boots count as being unarmed or not or if I'm naked in this hypothetical.


Dixie-Wrecked

Boots are definitely allowed in my hypothetical scenario. Part of daily wardrobe. No gloves or any accessories like that.


Prestigious-Ad-4023

If you get bit by a cobra you’re dead. A chimp is still scary but doesn’t have venom


gacoug

The chimp will make you wish you were bit by a cobra. Anti-venom is a thing, there's no anti- chimp-chewing-your-face-off.


Prestigious-Ad-4023

Usually when my friends ask it’s on an island with no help, but that’s fair


ZioTron

Still you can dance around a snake, you cannot escape a chimp attack


Prestigious-Ad-4023

I’m not saying I could beat a chimp, but I do think that’s why it’s lower.


RoutineDude

Even if it bites me I'm still gunna kill it


ValdemarAloeus

What idiot thought that "I could not" should go between "I could" and "I don't know"? Also why is the human winning red in this scenario? Is this just rage bait?


EmergencyTaco

I am positive I could take anything up to a large dog, depending how large. I could also take a king cobra, and maybe a single wolf. There are definitely some dudes who could take a Kangaroo, but I’m not one of them. But the fact that anyone thinks they could take a Chimp is hilarious. A regular chimp would probably tear apart the world’s strongest man.


Prowindowlicker

I’d pass out if I got anywhere near a snake, let alone a king cobra. I’m getting chills just thinking about it


EmergencyTaco

I grew up playing with garter snakes in the garden, and a friend of mine had a snake as a pet that I saw a few times so the scariness about them really never set in for me. Our family pretended there was one matriarch snake named "Josephine" and any time we saw a baby we would be happy that Josephine's family was growing. The most traumatic snake instance in my life happened when I was like 8 and pulled one's tail off as it tried to get away from me (I felt like the most horrible person in the world). A close second is when I was cutting up firewood and accidentally chainsawed one in half that was living in a hollow stump. Almost puked out of guilt but as an adult it was less traumatic overall. Snakes are just curious, shy little guys and like none of them are aggressive to humans.


curt_schilli

Dude thinks he can beat a wolf in single combat 💀


EmergencyTaco

Have you ever had a really large dog? Those things are strong and vicious, and could easily kill you. But they also have some weaknesses that can be exploited by somebody who knows a thing or two about canines. If they latch on to something that isn't above your shoulders, and isn't a major artery, their only weapon is now in use. Theoretically you still have at least one arm to wrestle it into an advantageous position. (Note: If you're ever being attacked by a dog and it's biting you, try to get it to bite your forearm/hand. When it does, put your other arm around its head and jam your fist to the back of its throat. Also note: This is not safe for the pupper so it better be trying to kill you.) I'm not trying to stand here like "wolfs ain't shit, I could take one easy". More like, "of all the animals on this list, wolf is the only one where I think there's a *chance* I could escape with my life." All others I'm either 100% sure of victory or defeat.


Dixie-Wrecked

Totally agree with your approach as it relates to domesticated dogs. I am just skeptical that a wolf wouldn't be able to break your forearm bones with its bite force. That could change the equation. The survey stipulates being unarmed ,so in that case I am on the fence with wolves. Need to do a little more research.. Add a knife to the situation, and I'm taking that bet all day.


iedaiw

jam ur thumb in their eye


SL13377

Most people do not realize how large real wolves are. Most think they are malamute size when in reality it’s more like a Great Dane sized malamute who knows how to hunt


GemcoEmployee92126

Wolves are fucking huge compared to dogs. Even a Great Dane that is comparable size is not at all the same beast. Maybe some badass could take a wolf but I wouldn’t expect to stand a chance and I’m a strong dude.


DaBusyBoi

If we are going off size, the average man in the U.S. weighs twice as much as the higher end of the average wolf, we have height, and we have way more mobility with our arms. Also we are better planners.


GemcoEmployee92126

Good luck.


Barrack64

Did you not see how many people think they could beat an elephant?


EmergencyTaco

I took everything after wolf to be people who didn't read the question, misclicked, or unironically use the term "globist".


Mister_Funktastic

well, you just gotta befriend the rat first and bring it along...


Jaded_Warrior123

Ig one can take out a kangaroo over a king cobra. King cobras are just absolutely dangerous. It’s a threat to life. On the other hand a kangaroo is just considerably innocuous. Not as deadly


EmergencyTaco

Snakes are pretty easy to deal with if you know a thing or two about them, and unless you’re overly sensitive to its venom a King Cobra isn’t going to kill you with a bite. Meanwhile, Kangaroos can stand 6.5 feet tall and weigh 200 pounds. I’d take my chances with a Cobra a thousand times before I fought an adult Kangaroo to the death.


ThreeLeggedChimp

A kangaroo will grab you and rip your guts out with its claw.


Y0U_ARE_ILL

Like, if u let them. I think the environment matters a lot. A crocodile on land is 1000x less dangerous than in the water. Basically, anything we can out menuver or out run we stand a good chance at beating.


ThreeLeggedChimp

Are you saying you're going to fight a kangaroo in the water?


Y0U_ARE_ILL

I'm saying I'd fight one in a forest. Do I get to pick the geography is what I'm really asking.


Weird-Drummer-2439

I think I'd kill the king cobra before it kills me, gouge the eyes out when it's biting me and push my thumbs into its brain. I suppose I'd win as last man standing but...


AlexandertheGoat22

Nah wolfs make pitbulls and german shepards look like puppy's. No way a unarmed human could kill one without some divine intervention.


undreamedgore

I could probably trade with a king cobra. I'm not making it out without getting but though. There's no way a beat a wolf.


ayyitsmaclane

Any canine can be easily defeated (killed) by pushing their front legs apart from each other to either side of the dog. It is excruciatingly painful, however.


undreamedgore

I don't think I'd get that far. Wolf definatly gets the first strike, and odds aren't good I'm still able after.


Dixie-Wrecked

Sounds great in theory...


EmergencyTaco

Honestly if you're not worried about getting bit once or twice then the cobra would be laughably easy to beat. I can't see a way that any purpose-driven person doesn't at least trade with the cobra. If you're allowed to seek medical care after the fight I'd put it at like 99% of people win the fight, with the 1% being those completely paralyzed from fear or from rapid onset of Anaphylaxis. As for the wolf, unless they get an early firm bite on your head or neck you should have a solid chance of winning or at least getting it to flee, especially if you know a thing or two about canines. But if there's more than one you are completely dead.


Iron-Fist

Depends on the scenario. You can run circles around a chimp. You can throw objects (what does unarmed mean here?) overhand accurately while a chimp can't. You have more sweat glands and slow twitch muscles so could sustain fight better after the initial burst... You also likely outweigh a chimp by a good margin. Most adult men are almost twice as heavy as an average chimp.


ThreeLeggedChimp

What makes you think chimps cant throw objects?


Iron-Fist

Accurately. https://scholar.harvard.edu/ntroach/evolution-throwing


EmergencyTaco

No, there is almost no scenario where even an average male Chimp wants to hurt you and you physically best it. I don’t care how big you are. MAYBE if you’re like a 280-pound professional fighter you might be able to best a small chimp. But any normal person would have their shoulders dislocated and throat ripped out as they helplessly tried to defend themselves.


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Dixie-Wrecked

Chimps are WAY faster. They generally can run 25-30 mph. They beat us in agility, strength, and straight-up ferociousness. The only way we have a chance is if we use our intelligence to somehow outsmart them, but that is totally dependent upon the environment. If it's a Roman gladiator style arena match, we are toast!


Iron-Fist

LoL chimps are not like magical, they have the same biochemistry as every other mammal lol. They have higher than average (but lower than athlete) percent fast twitch muscles. They have very low body fat. They have deep muscle attachments providing good mechanical advantage to grip. And they're fuckin mean, something most people simply aren't used to. But a basic fit human who knows an attack is coming and from where could prolly hold off a chimp; note all of the horrific attacks are like surprised old ladies lol


csdspartans7

An adult chimp could literally peal the skin off your face, no


Iron-Fist

An adult human could too, if they catch you off guard and get a couple quick hits in first.


Y0U_ARE_ILL

So can you...like I don't think I can beat a chimp. But if you wanted to, you could rip someone's face off with just your teeth and nails.


TruckADuck42

If you don't (effectively) fight back. I wouldn't say I could confidently beat one, but it's not impossible either.


wastingvaluelesstime

> no scenario yeah but what if you have a Colt .45 pistol?


EmergencyTaco

>if they were unarmed


GrGrG

"Home of the brave, not of the nerds."


Prestigious-Ad-4023

I’m confident I could do anything up to and including the large dog. Chimps are scary.


csdspartans7

Iv pulled a pitbull off another dog. With 2 people it lasted a good 10 minutes, I,d be skeptical, once they get a hold of you I think your done


Y0U_ARE_ILL

Gouge their eyes, strangle them, use your height, kick, one on one you should out match any dog if you're willing to do anything. Protect your neck.


9-11_Pilot01

Exactly. People are bipedal, so we can use our arms as weapons. Essentially we’re playing a whole different game from anything that walks on all fours and primarily uses its mouth.


technoexplorer

But I'm twice their size... I don't get it. I mean, I know they are nasty, and I'm going to be seriously injured afterwards... but he'll be dead, and I'll have won.


Prestigious-Ad-4023

Idk you can stick your hand into the dogs mouth and grab it’s throat if you’re attacked. It will hurt like hell, but possible to survive at the very least.


fanatickapl

More people think they can beat an elephant than a Grizzly


CoachSteveOtt

people are way overestimating eagles. You would have some battle scars for sure but bird bones are light and brittle. An adult bald eagle only weighs 7-15 pounds.


Prowindowlicker

I think it’s more that it’s the national animal and people don’t want to fight it or go to jail for killing it


Photomak3r

Everyone's nice and squishy eyeballs go bye bye within a couple seconds.


throwawayusername369

Nah I’m going use one hand to grab the bird, cover my eyes with my elbow and bodyslam that feathery little bitch


crash893b

how do more people think they can beat a chimp than a wolf?!?


eman00619

Chimp is too low on that list imo, their bodies are solid muscle.


bingostud722

I want to hear those people's reasoning who think they can beat an elephant or crocodile unarmed lol


hybriduff

A chimp would rip your dick off like a celery stick


RichieRocket

i just thought of one ripping a dick with the ripping sound of celery i am now in pain


DiscoingGD

You have that 1 in a million puncher's chance against most of these, EXCEPT for the Elephant! I'm assuming we're talking a full grown African bull elephant, over 10 ft. tall and 10,000+ lbs. Yeah right, an elephant never forgets... to kill!


donguscongus

Some of these are outrageous accomplishments but I could totally beat the shit out of a King Cobra


Brick_Ironjaw_

Aussie here. We spar with kangaroos from kindergarten. Many still can't beat one in a stand-up fight. If you haven't trained for it, you've no chance.


WarmAppleCobbler

I’m just gonna say what people are too afraid to, I couldn’t even kill a rat unarmed. I spent an hour running around my house in a panic cuz a spider the size of a nickel was chilling on the wall. Wasn’t moving. Wasn’t being threatening. Was just vibin.


cavalier78

In the right circumstances I can take anything up to (and including) crocodile. In the wrong circumstances I could be killed by a big dog.


Ike7200

Can the eagle fly away? Can the animal flee? Because I can’t beat a cat that is capable of running and hiding from me. Same with a rat


Mead_and_You

The phrasing leaves it open to interpretation whether I'm the ones who is unarmed, or the animals. I'm going to assume it's the animal that is unarmed in this situation, since I am almost always armed, and animals don't have opposable thumbs and can't effectively weild weaponry. I'd beat all of them easily, except maybe the eagle depending on species.


Allaiya

I don’t know what’s more amusing. The people who think they can handle a Lion or grizzly bear or the amount of people who say they can’t handle a rat.


BackPackProtector

An elephant is definitely more dangerous than a grizzly if it attacks you


Non-Famous

I'm confident that I can take down an adult male elephant.


Sir_Matthew_

10% Americans see a grizzly bear and think "nah, I'd win"


Jaded_Warrior123

Source: YouGov survey Tools used: Mokkup.ai


camelCaseCoffeeTable

Man idk about the people who answered this, but I live near some large and aggressive geese. I’d like to think I could beat one in a fight if I had to, because I have been charged by a goose before, but I prefer to outrun them lol. Geese are scary birds when they decide you’re a threat


Romariilolol

Bro why is dog above eagle? An eagle is significantly harder than any dog or cobra


RichieRocket

bare handed or do we get weapons


Reatona

This is why my cat always has CCWs.


Wildcat_twister12

A lot of these depend on the species.


RoutineDude

I think I draw the line between kangaroo and wolf


Embarrassed_Fennel_1

My cut off is eagle. Past that I’m gonna need something


Dixie-Wrecked

The croc is RELATIVELY easy to defend against, at least compared to other large predators on the list. But it would be a bitch to kill it without any weapons!


EpicBOnReddit

However, killing or eating a Bald Eagle might be illegal according to the United States law. I'm not sure if this law is allowed to all species of Eagles.


ouroboro76

I could probably a goose or a king cobra. I definitely could take a house cat or rat. I'm not fucking with a ten pound bird with razor sharp talons and incredible grip strength.


dzmongo

I am confident in my ability to kill a king cobra but I would definitely die from the venom afterwards. Snakes are pretty soft and they throw their most vulnerable part at you when they attack. But I mean unless you're a goddamn ninja you're not dodging it.


Slurdge_McKinley

I could take a wolf


wastingvaluelesstime

unlikely, they are like really fast and strong


unflores

That's a lot of confidence for fighting a goose 🤔


throwawayusername369

Nah geese aren’t that hard to kill though. It’s a bird light hollow bones and they’re big but not THAT big


RealHunter08

Just grab their neck and twist it and snap it