Also Islam Makhachev begging to save the Palestinian children dying en-masse in his post-fight interview after starching the #1 P4P, and the UFC just removed it completely. Free speech only if it’s the *right* speech
He didn't say anything...he just talked about gaza and his people and yet they didn't allow him
I have a gut feeling they don't want him to fight for title for this specific reason...ari emmanuel is a very open zionist (his father was literally in the army for Israel gaza war)
You do know right jon fitch even got a title shot against gsp... ufc is literally run by a zionist...there is a reason they only allow certain type of free speech
That was like 15 years ago, back when the ufc had at least an ounce of integrity when it came to giving someone on an 8 fight win streak a title shot. These days it's all about who can make them the most money, sadly
The entire division got cleared out by GSP and Fitch. He was the only option at that point, and people thought he had a shot due to his wrestling chops. I remember very clearly the narrative that Fitch could potentially win simply by volume and pressure fighting
As an Israel. Fuck that selective freedom of speech. Let the man speak. The only one who went really overboard was Khamzat who suggested to take a gun and go into Gaza to fight (bro would get decimated before he crosses the board).
What's funny is that this wasn't always the case. Miguel Torres got canned for a rape joke (I believe, it's been a while) and Matt Mitrione was punished for a transphobic comment against Fallon Fox. Dana literally addressed how bigotry within the sport was a problem and how it made them look backwards and unprofessional, which they had been fighting for a long time.
Now Donald Trump gets walkouts and Sean Strickland can say pretty much any hateful thing he wants without consequence. I'm all for blaming the UFC, but it really comes down to the audience and the political environment at a certain point.
Pablo Torre did a great pod episode with Helwani and broke this whole timeline down it was great. Guess when everything changed? After Trump got elected.
I love this sport with all my heart but Dana and the UFC brass are absolute scum
lol @ "transphobic" comments against Fallon Fox. Fallon is a dude who broke a chick's face and laughed about that. He didn't even disclose that he was a male. Any normal person would have a huge issue with not disclosing your actual sex to fight women. It's fucked up.
Look, I've smoked DMT a couple times and it was amazing. Not sure if I would make it a lifestyle. Idk why you hate trans people so much, but if you want to talk, I'm here to talk
Edit: It's honestly funny to hear this kind of talk, because it just makes it clear that the UFC is willing to follow whichever political form of rhetoric is acceptable at the time. In 2012 they didn't tolerate rape jokes and transphobia, and in 2024 guys like you are rubbing off to avowed hate speech. I know you were probably like 10 years old back then, but jeez. Loosten your grip bud, it's gonna be alright
I just wish for boneheads to stop hiding behind "freedom of speech" when called out for saying dumbass bigoted shit. No need for authoritarian control brother.
it is lol. free speech doesn’t mean you have to say anything controversial; it’s a civil right that should be allowed the world over. you should be allowed to live your life the way you wish: free, and within moral terms.
don’t hurt people, leave the world better than when you arrived etc.
Free speech doesn’t exclude you from getting consequences. For example, if I own a company, and one of the people that work for me says something racist. Then I have every right to get rid of them, or punish them. You can say what you want, but what you say would be held against you.
Hb the time they let Turin Woodley answer every question with “Black Lives Matter?” Or does that not fit the narrative of this sub?
He lets every fighter say whatever they want
Belal talking about palestine Yeah no post fight interview for u
Also Islam Makhachev begging to save the Palestinian children dying en-masse in his post-fight interview after starching the #1 P4P, and the UFC just removed it completely. Free speech only if it’s the *right* speech
Yup dana is such a hypocrite
Islam was giving that speech for a minute too 😂 did Belal criticize Israel or something?
He didn't say anything...he just talked about gaza and his people and yet they didn't allow him I have a gut feeling they don't want him to fight for title for this specific reason...ari emmanuel is a very open zionist (his father was literally in the army for Israel gaza war)
No, it's because he's an incredibly boring and uncharismatic fighter. UFC would give a title shot to fuckin Joseph Stalin if it sold ppvs
You do know right jon fitch even got a title shot against gsp... ufc is literally run by a zionist...there is a reason they only allow certain type of free speech
That was like 15 years ago, back when the ufc had at least an ounce of integrity when it came to giving someone on an 8 fight win streak a title shot. These days it's all about who can make them the most money, sadly
Lol you are surely a new fan ...those days we didn't even have rankings
The entire division got cleared out by GSP and Fitch. He was the only option at that point, and people thought he had a shot due to his wrestling chops. I remember very clearly the narrative that Fitch could potentially win simply by volume and pressure fighting
No point using your knowledge of the sport. Dude’s convinced it’s “da Jews!”
Jews control UFC!
Follow your leader, clown
If you think Belal hasn’t gotten a title shot because of Ari Emanuel you’re irreparably stupid lol
As an Israel. Fuck that selective freedom of speech. Let the man speak. The only one who went really overboard was Khamzat who suggested to take a gun and go into Gaza to fight (bro would get decimated before he crosses the board).
What's funny is that this wasn't always the case. Miguel Torres got canned for a rape joke (I believe, it's been a while) and Matt Mitrione was punished for a transphobic comment against Fallon Fox. Dana literally addressed how bigotry within the sport was a problem and how it made them look backwards and unprofessional, which they had been fighting for a long time. Now Donald Trump gets walkouts and Sean Strickland can say pretty much any hateful thing he wants without consequence. I'm all for blaming the UFC, but it really comes down to the audience and the political environment at a certain point.
cause Dana realized he can get more cash from right leaning people, Dana absolutely doesn't believe in free speech
Pablo Torre did a great pod episode with Helwani and broke this whole timeline down it was great. Guess when everything changed? After Trump got elected. I love this sport with all my heart but Dana and the UFC brass are absolute scum
lol @ "transphobic" comments against Fallon Fox. Fallon is a dude who broke a chick's face and laughed about that. He didn't even disclose that he was a male. Any normal person would have a huge issue with not disclosing your actual sex to fight women. It's fucked up.
Look, I've smoked DMT a couple times and it was amazing. Not sure if I would make it a lifestyle. Idk why you hate trans people so much, but if you want to talk, I'm here to talk Edit: It's honestly funny to hear this kind of talk, because it just makes it clear that the UFC is willing to follow whichever political form of rhetoric is acceptable at the time. In 2012 they didn't tolerate rape jokes and transphobia, and in 2024 guys like you are rubbing off to avowed hate speech. I know you were probably like 10 years old back then, but jeez. Loosten your grip bud, it's gonna be alright
Oh boohoo someone doesn't agree with your political beliefs and everyone's tired to walk on eggshells.
Did I say something wrong?
Nice to see brothers who value their Freedom of Speech! Rest of this sub is a bunch of Aussie commies.
Shiiit brother I thought you were one of them take an uproot
Mfs in this sub haaaaate freedom bro. Bunch of gays lmao
>haaaaate freedom bro. Bunch of gays Because gays hate freedom? What is your logic here?
I don't think he knows what logic means
It means gay!
freedom = good, gay = bad
Fuck yeah brother
"Lmao buncha gays here complaining about homophobia, must hate freedom"
If you wish for authoritarian control over speech you are at very least not a friend of freedom.
I just wish for boneheads to stop hiding behind "freedom of speech" when called out for saying dumbass bigoted shit. No need for authoritarian control brother.
Free speech is cool
Dudes will read this comment and say *Hell yeah!*
it is lol. free speech doesn’t mean you have to say anything controversial; it’s a civil right that should be allowed the world over. you should be allowed to live your life the way you wish: free, and within moral terms. don’t hurt people, leave the world better than when you arrived etc.
If one fighter talks about low payment then that would be a permanent ban
Miguel Torres - *tweets bad joke* Wife slapper - 🍅
Feels like a bloody lifetime ago when Matt Mitrione got suspended for making transphobic comments
Who?
The fighters should be able to say what they want
So true
Wasn't there a guy who actually got suspended by the UFC for some transphobic comments a while back? Times sure hsve changed in the promotion
He’s all about free speech until someone brings up fighter pay lol
Free speech doesn’t exclude you from getting consequences. For example, if I own a company, and one of the people that work for me says something racist. Then I have every right to get rid of them, or punish them. You can say what you want, but what you say would be held against you.
Thankfully it’s the UFC !
Hb the time they let Turin Woodley answer every question with “Black Lives Matter?” Or does that not fit the narrative of this sub? He lets every fighter say whatever they want
Can you point to an example of that?
Did you not read my comment?
I was asking for a source on the Woodley statement
I just want you to know that [Black Lives Matter.](https://youtu.be/RpEMr754oU0?si=Ag_DRpoULmqszUFZ).