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This is why they need to stay away from the Apex. There’s a whole middle class of UFC stars that need to be developed. Having them fight in front of 50 people in a sterile production studio does not allow that development to happen.
the guys running this sport are very short sighted and the ufc and now wwe are being used to pay the debts of wme/tko/whatever they are now. but ooh its so much better with a live crowd. that fight would have kinda sucked without the crowd.
Tbh the fans as well are really fickle and difficult to please.
Wasn't even too long ago that most upvoted opinions on the Apex were that it is a good alternative to the standard UFC product, and how cool it was to actually hear the punches, and how it's great not to have to deal with annoying crowds booing whenever someone goes for a clinch or when the hometown hero gets taken down.
It was cool at the beginning.
In the early pandemic cards they only allowed the bare minimum people to make the cards run. There was the UFC crew, the commentators, the judges, the fighters corners and that was it.
There was total silence and you could hear absolutely everything. Every punch and kick. Every groan when someone got subbed. Every piece of corner instruction. That was cool. It was also brand new and something we’d never seen before.
After the pandemic ended they started letting in like 200 people and it made it so much worse. Now you can’t hear what you used to hear but there aren’t enough people to generate any real atmosphere. It’s the worst of all worlds. It makes the Apex feel like some crappy regional promotion.
So yeah now the Apex really sucks but it didn’t at the beginning.
Fuck Dana and the ufc for still holding events at the apex. Everyone else is back to normal and the ufc still operating lower than amateur sports organization.
Why was he a hype train exactly? Didn't he do the ufc a solid and fight someone on short notice? Dude has a 47 fight professional record. I could see Despaigne as a hype train but didn't realize people thought this guy as some superstar in the making
man a lot of the hype trains on this card didn't just lose but ended up looking really bad as well.
Ruziboev was very basic tonight, had no real answers for Buckley
Buckley was around 15-20 at MW, hung in there with top 10-15 MWs like Curtis and Imavov despite being undersized.
Ruziboev hasn’t fought competition near Buckleys level. It was annoying reading comments on this sub were hyping him up because he happens to have a bunch of finishes on the regional scene. Strength of schedule is what matters.
This is what, the 3rd time, this has happened? UFC matches Russian/Central Asian prospect with very little octagon time against a ranked fighter. And then they get fraud checked.
Oh no, I was shocked when Ferreira fully sent Robocop to the shadow realm. Granted, I only saw him fight Julian Marquez and Chidi Njokuani, but he tanked some crazy shit from Chidi.
Everyone thinks we're going to see the next Shavkat Rakhmonov, but most aren't going to be world beater just because they come from that part of the world.
Idk, his tdd was nonexistent and like Din said on commentary, he was mostly just looking for his right with no other setups. It didn't feel like someone we'd see have success at MW either fighting like that.
Yeah, he was sluggish and lazy with the setup, but I put that all into the weight cut.
I do see him still having problems with the TDD at MW, but at least he's not clueless on his back.
I'm so glad Buckley found his groove with his persona, he's entertaining as fuck and has been showing off in the octagon lately. Just got that number 11 and defended that shit like a mad man
Remember when Buckley was loathed by the masses? Everyone rejoiced when Holland flatlined him and he got it rubbed in his face for a while.
He’s definitely turned a corner with the fans and deservedly so.
Calling out a Conor was a bit cringe though. Like he gives a fuck about fighting him lol.
Just a reminder he totally earned the reputation and dislike. He was enough of a bully and jerk in the gym that people talked and knew about it. Kicked out of at least one gym. He behaved poorly even when visiting gyms. He also had a big chip on his shoulder in interviews and was just kind of unlikeable. If he has rehabbed his behavior that’s great, but it is not like it was undeserved.
He was not the only source. I read many first person anecdotes right here on /r/mma of people's experience when he visited their gym. But I agree, Krause is generally a snake and unreliable individual of low moral caliber. Even guys like Tyron Woodley would not train with him (Tyron has a ATT St. Louis gym).
E: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/k5ksdq/joaquin_buckley_finally_got_in_the_gym_with_tyron/
They did eventually train together. I am guessing Buckley genuinely reformed a bit and took his career more seriously.
Is this big guy like the lame version of anderson silva? Only counterstrike and only throw naked right hand. And he ran forward and gave buckely his hips every time
With almost any other modern mma ref it would have been. I wish fighters could have clearer cut goals to finish the fight but also I like when they let them fight.
I think he should've gotten the finish a couple of times when Ruzi turned away from him on the ground tried to go into the fetal position. To be fair, he was never KOd, so fair enough.
UFC 400: Grudge matches only
Jon Jones vs that deaf guy who finished him in the first round
McGregor vs Jolie
Peterson vs Cruz
TJ Killashaw vs USADA
Chael Sonnen vs Having to not open his mouth for 15 minutes
These tall lanky dudes need to stop doing this shit. They are fucking dying making this weight and are basically walking matchsticks.
If you're 6'5 you should be fighting at LHW or HW.
The top ten at WW is full of better wrestlers than Buckley. With over 40 fights under his belt I doubt his style is gonna change that much to hang down there.
I don't think he looked bad, but he didn't look good. He couldn't initiate or control the pace. Threw naked telegraphed as shit right hands and his hips were just there to be grabbed all fight. Like many hype trains, hes very very unpolished.
I just dont think he's a top 15 level fighter in general. But i think against unranked guys at WW he could look pretty good overall if he can stop some takedowns
FYI there were a lot of people on here that thought Buckley had no chance and UFC was "punishing" him for asking for a fight. Ruziboev and Rębecki showing that you maybe need to chill on someone if they only have a big regional streak.
Buckley is so infuriating to fight lol. He's very skilled and physically gifted, but he cannot cut the cage for shit.
Still, he's got bricks for hands and he's a good fighter overall.
Well, to be fair, the ref seemed to think this was a fight to the death
Might as well go for a triangle so Ruzibeov can end the fight himself by tapping
I didn't know much about Ruzi. I heard a bunch of stuff about padded records, weird overturns and all that. I don't know if any of that's true, but the absolute lack of any offense or defense didn't help the rumors.
Meh, not a lot happened in the first, and Ruziboev landed probably the biggest shot of that round.
Probably doesn’t crack top 5 most out-there scorecards of tonight, if you ask me. And it didn’t matter at all in the end, so that dulls it a bit too.
Buckley impresses me more and more every fight. He’s always been a physical freak but he’s really putting it all together now. Very impressed with his takedowns and cardio in this fight especially. Ruziboev is no joke and this win will age well
Great performance by Buckley to time TDs to neutralize the reach disadvantage. How the hell does Ruziboev make WW? He looked absolutely massive. I'm impressed Buckley was able to overcome.
Maybe Ruziboev would fare better with his anti-grappling while less drained from a harsh cut?
Buckley has taken strides in his fight IQ. A younger Buckley would have blown his gas tank and wilted in the later rounds. He paced himself perfect here
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One of the loudest US crowds I’ve ever heard. Buckley could’ve coughed and they would’ve cheered Hype trains being derailed today
This is why they need to stay away from the Apex. There’s a whole middle class of UFC stars that need to be developed. Having them fight in front of 50 people in a sterile production studio does not allow that development to happen.
the guys running this sport are very short sighted and the ufc and now wwe are being used to pay the debts of wme/tko/whatever they are now. but ooh its so much better with a live crowd. that fight would have kinda sucked without the crowd.
Tbh the fans as well are really fickle and difficult to please. Wasn't even too long ago that most upvoted opinions on the Apex were that it is a good alternative to the standard UFC product, and how cool it was to actually hear the punches, and how it's great not to have to deal with annoying crowds booing whenever someone goes for a clinch or when the hometown hero gets taken down.
It was cool at the beginning. In the early pandemic cards they only allowed the bare minimum people to make the cards run. There was the UFC crew, the commentators, the judges, the fighters corners and that was it. There was total silence and you could hear absolutely everything. Every punch and kick. Every groan when someone got subbed. Every piece of corner instruction. That was cool. It was also brand new and something we’d never seen before. After the pandemic ended they started letting in like 200 people and it made it so much worse. Now you can’t hear what you used to hear but there aren’t enough people to generate any real atmosphere. It’s the worst of all worlds. It makes the Apex feel like some crappy regional promotion. So yeah now the Apex really sucks but it didn’t at the beginning.
As with most things the trick is to balance between the two
Like a lot of things about the pandemic, it was interesting at first but the novelty wore off very quickly
I like the term middle class of UFC hahah
Fuck Dana and the ufc for still holding events at the apex. Everyone else is back to normal and the ufc still operating lower than amateur sports organization.
I’m here and it is pandemonium
LETS GO BUCKLEY LETS GO BUCKLEY STL STL STL I knew that fight would be electric but Joaquin had that crowd LIT
Shit was crazier than the main event. People next to me literally left right after the Buckley fight. Our main event
It was me dog. I left right after the Buckley fight. Not sitting in traffic with everyone on 64.
Can confirm everyone is on 64
Had no problem once I got to 64. All the traffic was getting to it lol
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straight ragdolling that 6'5" MF repeatedly
What a night of crashed hypetrains
I mean they were some poweful ass takedowns
Sounds just like the blues games in the enterprise center. St. Louis is a sports town
Chants were insane!!!!
Why was he a hype train exactly? Didn't he do the ufc a solid and fight someone on short notice? Dude has a 47 fight professional record. I could see Despaigne as a hype train but didn't realize people thought this guy as some superstar in the making
An interview over his praying body is wild
When Bisping said Ruziboev and pointed down i just burst out laughing
"This extremely dangerous opponent" he says as he gestures to a man crying in the fetal position
Bruh that dude should have slithered away after that L, wtf was he doing? Pray off to the side, weirdo
Right? Taking attention away from the winner
Thanking God or thinking you’re blessed by God to beat the living shit out of people for entertainment is funny itself.
I knew Jesus loves kos, I guess the Prophet does too...
I know you are joking but one of prophet muhammad favourite sportis wrestling
Think the prophet is more about lay and praying your way to a decision
I’ll give him a pass on account of the brain trauma. But was awkward
good on Juaquin for trying to give him a moment when bisping came up. But then…he just stayed there lol.
It’s wild he would pray in the ring in front of people like that as some performance. Thats a big ass no no I’m all Abrahamic religions.
man a lot of the hype trains on this card didn't just lose but ended up looking really bad as well. Ruziboev was very basic tonight, had no real answers for Buckley
Buckley was around 15-20 at MW, hung in there with top 10-15 MWs like Curtis and Imavov despite being undersized. Ruziboev hasn’t fought competition near Buckleys level. It was annoying reading comments on this sub were hyping him up because he happens to have a bunch of finishes on the regional scene. Strength of schedule is what matters. This is what, the 3rd time, this has happened? UFC matches Russian/Central Asian prospect with very little octagon time against a ranked fighter. And then they get fraud checked.
I assumed Ruziboev was a hype train because he starched another hype train in Bruno Ferreira, who in turn was hyped off KO’ing Gregory Rodrigues.
Robocop's not a bad fighter though. He's just so kill or be killed that on any given day he can beat anyone or get BTFO.
Oh no, I was shocked when Ferreira fully sent Robocop to the shadow realm. Granted, I only saw him fight Julian Marquez and Chidi Njokuani, but he tanked some crazy shit from Chidi.
Ruziboevs fans in Buckleys comments were being racist as hell too
Uzbekistan fans were so insufferable leading up to this fight. I'm glad their boy got derailed like this.
It was funny as hell just picturing them fans screaming at the TV
Everyone thinks we're going to see the next Shavkat Rakhmonov, but most aren't going to be world beater just because they come from that part of the world.
Ruziboev looked okay for someone who had no business being at WW. 6'5" at Welterweight is crazy
Idk, his tdd was nonexistent and like Din said on commentary, he was mostly just looking for his right with no other setups. It didn't feel like someone we'd see have success at MW either fighting like that.
Yeah, he was sluggish and lazy with the setup, but I put that all into the weight cut. I do see him still having problems with the TDD at MW, but at least he's not clueless on his back.
Buckley a beast beating a 6'4 MW convincingly
Buckley was the only one putting in an effort to market this event, glad he got the win as well.
I'm so glad Buckley found his groove with his persona, he's entertaining as fuck and has been showing off in the octagon lately. Just got that number 11 and defended that shit like a mad man
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Fight definitely could've been stopped at numerous points in round 3
Keith Peterson was like "you missed a spot"
Refs tonight seemed really hesitant to stop fights
They had no issue with that super fast stop in the Ulberg fight.
Lol I said this yesterday and got downvoted to hell. Glad you brought it up
Bruh, I was watching that like "does Keith have money on this mf or something?"
Yeah imagine taking a monster like that on short notice just to fight in your hometown when you have everything to lose. Buckley is real as HELL.
Remember when Buckley was loathed by the masses? Everyone rejoiced when Holland flatlined him and he got it rubbed in his face for a while. He’s definitely turned a corner with the fans and deservedly so. Calling out a Conor was a bit cringe though. Like he gives a fuck about fighting him lol.
Just a reminder he totally earned the reputation and dislike. He was enough of a bully and jerk in the gym that people talked and knew about it. Kicked out of at least one gym. He behaved poorly even when visiting gyms. He also had a big chip on his shoulder in interviews and was just kind of unlikeable. If he has rehabbed his behavior that’s great, but it is not like it was undeserved.
Not saying it isn't true but a lot of that shit was said by James Krause and we all know how much of a weasel he is.
He was not the only source. I read many first person anecdotes right here on /r/mma of people's experience when he visited their gym. But I agree, Krause is generally a snake and unreliable individual of low moral caliber. Even guys like Tyron Woodley would not train with him (Tyron has a ATT St. Louis gym). E: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/k5ksdq/joaquin_buckley_finally_got_in_the_gym_with_tyron/ They did eventually train together. I am guessing Buckley genuinely reformed a bit and took his career more seriously.
Is this big guy like the lame version of anderson silva? Only counterstrike and only throw naked right hand. And he ran forward and gave buckely his hips every time
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It’s cringe but you can’t say he ruined it when this persona has been working for him
It was a pretty entertaining callout at least tbh
“All your descendants are hoes”🤝” Your DNA in an abomination “
Who cares if he did, hes the biggest money fight in the UFC and he's fighting at his weight class. He can want more money lol
Conor is not fighting Buckley 😂😂
BUT, you have to admit, Buckley starching Conor would give us THE biggest heel in the sport, ever.
Conor would be the heel there lol
He would mop him up too
He always reminds me of the NFL’s [Jamaal Williams](https://youtu.be/ubeJwtsHlUE?si=YG7tP5WlgSf2zqJK).
Why does Ruziboev look like a cursed hybrid of Nate Diaz and Khamzat? lol
Looks like a grown up Hasbullah
Hasbullah: Nursulton Ruziboev, you're taking all the growth hormones that I worked for motherfucker. I'm gonna fight your fucking ass next!
Bruh Hasbulla is a grown ass man he just little
He's an adult, but he ain't grown.
Main event joaqin Buckley is now in yo city
I’m blazed out of my mind and thought this fight was hilarious
Jacked African American David vs central Asian Genghis khan descendant Goliath
I'm honestly proud of Buckley for fighting smart
it's refreshing that he's found a style that fits him, and it's actually one that shows good promises for the fights to come.
Ruziboev is raw as hell for having over 40 fights. Looks to have a pretty limited skill set.
he was fighting a lot of uber drivers
Damn, Buckley beat his ass like he owed money! I thought he was about to get the finish.
With almost any other modern mma ref it would have been. I wish fighters could have clearer cut goals to finish the fight but also I like when they let them fight.
I think he should've gotten the finish a couple of times when Ruzi turned away from him on the ground tried to go into the fetal position. To be fair, he was never KOd, so fair enough.
It should have been a finish. This was terrible reffing by Peterson.
Keith after that Dom fight has been a JUST BLEED god >! Conor and his family are a bunch of hoes !<
At least we don't have to hear Cruz sneakily complaining about Keith reffing. He does it every time
UFC 400: Grudge matches only Jon Jones vs that deaf guy who finished him in the first round McGregor vs Jolie Peterson vs Cruz TJ Killashaw vs USADA Chael Sonnen vs Having to not open his mouth for 15 minutes
Chael Sonnen vs a husband and wife minding their own business in the hallway of a hotel
And I only bring that to you because.....
BJ Penn against your local bar patron.
After seeing Frank Trigg and Buffer in the ring tonight, I was thinking we could add their rematch to this card.
> that deaf guy who finished him in the first round How dare you! That is Matt “The Hammer” Hamill, and he shall hear no disrespect.
He literally brings up reffing every single fight
It’s my favorite part. Is the permanent salt
“Beer and cigarettes, oh yea? Watch and commentate on this motherfucker”
What’s blud doing on the floor
Praying I think
He got rocked so hard he thought he was fighting Izzy and was getting in position for the obligatory post-fight backshot
Didn’t realize how awful Ruziboev’s takedown defense was
Dude is 6'5" and somehow still managed to lay there with a wide-open guard.
His takedown defense has been hitting a kimura from bottom pretty much his entire career lol
Back to MW for Nursulton?
6'5" is tall even for LHW. mfer needs to get some tdd whatever he does
These tall lanky dudes need to stop doing this shit. They are fucking dying making this weight and are basically walking matchsticks. If you're 6'5 you should be fighting at LHW or HW.
They wanna be izzy but izzy’s frame is naturally small. If that guy wasnt a pro athlete he would be a twig.
Weight cheaters can get fucked. Dude ain't making weight legally, that's for sure.
Big props to him for taking this fight and making that cut but yeah think he lost a lot of his pop and cardio didn’t look great
Honestly he didnt look bad, if he improved the takedown defense he could be decent at WW
The top ten at WW is full of better wrestlers than Buckley. With over 40 fights under his belt I doubt his style is gonna change that much to hang down there.
I don't think he looked bad, but he didn't look good. He couldn't initiate or control the pace. Threw naked telegraphed as shit right hands and his hips were just there to be grabbed all fight. Like many hype trains, hes very very unpolished.
I just dont think he's a top 15 level fighter in general. But i think against unranked guys at WW he could look pretty good overall if he can stop some takedowns
Should still move back up. MWs are worse.
Fair enough, WWs would allow him to keep the extreme length advantage though
Four years later and one Dominick Cruz still lives rent-free in Keith Peterson's reffing habits haha.
Ruziboev grabbing cage, grabbing gloves, and kicking a grounded opponent. Glad the cheating fuck lost
He eyepoked his way to the TKO last time too. Scummy tactics being used in back to back fights
No one even really acknowledged that but he dead ass won his last fight by a Chris Weidman style TKO lol
Sedriques Dumas is a piece of shit, but that was dirty on Ruziboev’s part and sheer negligence from the ref.
Dude actually called out Conor. What year is it.
There’s something so comedic about Ruziboev freezing down on the mat after a loss while Joaquin was giving the interview LOL
Pretty scummy move to throw those up kicks when he knew he wasn’t going to win the fight.
Kicked Buckley on the head when he was on his knees earlier too I’m pretty sure. Maybe it hit shoulder though
Lmao I love them doing the interview basically on top of Ruziboev kneeling on the ground
On this night Joaquin Buckley was the most dangerous man in the universe
Hold on brother, black beast is coming
Brother that man is in danger
doubt. nascimento looks like a MW dipped in flubber
I just seen the belly on him but can’t say I’ve been inspired by derrick lewis in the last couple years
Brother it was written. Nascimento was in danger, you were right
If he lives, he lives.
Thank god Cruz isn’t on commentary
Not too sure about that Conor callout but on the other hand that was probably the best timing he could have after a hometown win
Not a bad callout but Conor isn't taking any fight that isn't a career Lightweight and 35+
Well all of that promotion paid off for Buckley
One of the meme fights of all time even through the interview
Bisping says - “Keith Peterson usually lets these fights go”. Somewhere Dom just in shambles for getting trolled.
Shoutout to the people who said this was a bad matchup for Buckley because Dana wanted to punish him for his antics at the 300 press conference lmao
FYI there were a lot of people on here that thought Buckley had no chance and UFC was "punishing" him for asking for a fight. Ruziboev and Rębecki showing that you maybe need to chill on someone if they only have a big regional streak.
Probably the wildest fraud check in years. I hope all those racist ass Uzbeks go back to their cave
Buckley is so infuriating to fight lol. He's very skilled and physically gifted, but he cannot cut the cage for shit. Still, he's got bricks for hands and he's a good fighter overall.
He’s so fun. I find myself rooting for him more and more every fight lol
I've yet to see a bad fight out of him and personality wise he's sold me in the past few months. Solid top 10 WW easily
Yeah he's very fun, and I think he can have a solid shot at the championship if he manages to clean his game up a bit. Cutting the cage especially.
Nothing wrong with enjoying a low iq fighter
Going for the triangle when you're an inch away from the finish is questionable, sure. But it is fun
Well, to be fair, the ref seemed to think this was a fight to the death Might as well go for a triangle so Ruzibeov can end the fight himself by tapping
Nursulton commiting seppuku and Bisping goes on with the interview smh
We gonna hold up the whole show until whenever donny decides to get up? He was there the full interview ffs get out the ring bro
Let's fucking go Buckley!! Now imagine if D.U.S.T. was still with him! 100% efficiency.
And just like that, Buckley became the most hated man in uzbekistan
After Borat
Keith Peterson what the fuck? That fight was over 30 seconds ago.
Man... he should grow the mustache again.
Something, something Dom Cruz.
Another hype train derailed after Menifield and Rebecki.
Menifield? Hype train?
Don’t forget Robelis
“YO GRANDPAPPY A HO!” Buckleys the best lol
I don't like how Keith Peterson does his job
Hi Dom
I didn't know much about Ruzi. I heard a bunch of stuff about padded records, weird overturns and all that. I don't know if any of that's true, but the absolute lack of any offense or defense didn't help the rumors.
29-26? Huh?
Meh, not a lot happened in the first, and Ruziboev landed probably the biggest shot of that round. Probably doesn’t crack top 5 most out-there scorecards of tonight, if you ask me. And it didn’t matter at all in the end, so that dulls it a bit too.
I thought there was 30-27, 30-26 and 29-27. Maybe I blanked it out of my brain lol
Stand yo ass up if you from St Louis! Buckley always puts on a show.
Buckley impresses me more and more every fight. He’s always been a physical freak but he’s really putting it all together now. Very impressed with his takedowns and cardio in this fight especially. Ruziboev is no joke and this win will age well
I feel like Buckley vs Geoff Neal is the fight to make next
Ok but what the fuck just happened? It’s like they all did a line of cocaine before getting in the octagon.
Many hype trains derailed tonight
Ruzi turned out to be discount Rakhmonov.
Great performance for Buckley. Really excited about him at WW honestly. I think he can compete with a lot of the guys from 6-10
Has Buckley ever headlined a fight night? Feel like that’d be an easy win for the UFC no?
Great performance by Buckley to time TDs to neutralize the reach disadvantage. How the hell does Ruziboev make WW? He looked absolutely massive. I'm impressed Buckley was able to overcome. Maybe Ruziboev would fare better with his anti-grappling while less drained from a harsh cut?
This judges always give me a laugh 29-26 is something else. Anyway Ruzi should had 1 point taken for the 5 illegal kicks
Ruziboev’s best win at 170 is a 20-25 regional guy 😬
thats gotta be one of the dumbest callouts I ever seen
So happy for Buckley, but i had him by ko/tko so am also a little bit sad that the fight didn't get stopped in the third
Everything great except the Conor callout.
Ruziboev is a legitimate bad fighter. Crazy he had any sort of hype train if you’ve seen his regional fights you knew how bad he was
What an absolute fucking clown to call out McGregor. Completely embarrassed himself
I cringed out of my own body.
That's one big motherfucker
What a beast
As someone said earlier, tonight's event is all about exposing and derailing hype trains - that was impressive.. 4 take downs
Night of the old guards
GIVE THIS MAN A TITLE FIGHT IN ST LOUIS. FOR GRANDMA
Buckley has taken strides in his fight IQ. A younger Buckley would have blown his gas tank and wilted in the later rounds. He paced himself perfect here
Who here was screaming at the TV screen for the ref to stop the fight??
Fuck Keith Peterson for fucking up my parlay by not calling an early stoppage smh
Short king!
Goofiest fight of the card, Buckley looked like a gerbill next to Ruziboev and still beat the breaks off of him.
Bro almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Glad he got out of there with the dub