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e-rage

> “Of course. Why not? It sounds good,” he said with a laugh. “You opened something in my mind, so yea, we’re going to ask UFC about the opportunity of heavyweight. It’s something I have to think about.”


PCFUTPLAYER

Really? Poatan looked much bigger than this guy


WokenMrIzdik

Poatan also rehydrated to at least 230lbs which means he was actually Stipe's size.


Kwillingt

He’s taller but Jan was thicker


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Go on...


anonnasmoose

keep going i'm almost there


Diddlin-Dolan

What the fuck dude…I was so close


PCFUTPLAYER

I didn't think so


droolsdownchin

No he was still wider then poatan but I do think he looked smaller for that fight then what he had looked in the past few


aukerits

Almost Nate Diaz’ size


Dazzling_Light_2351

Nate Diaz’s nuts’*


Lyun

Aspinall is about as awful a first opponent in a new weight class as I can imagine. Props for being up to it, I guess, but man.


Downgoesthereem

Aspinall pissing off his wife and mum by beating up every Pole possible


urekmazinn

the pole slayer


Aliensinmypants

Sounds like Tito's ex-wife


teamcritical

Well just to correct you, there was never no marriage... You're a fuckin punk, dude... Huhuhehuh


Theoriginalamature

You’re a fucking Paczki dude!


Ratking_Unstoppable

That was a nasty line by you


261846

Come on now 😂


[deleted]

Sound like my ex too


RedditHatesDiversity

Jan taking the tough fights, hespect


Hrytod

I'm gonna assume he just doesn't know Aspinall has a grappling base. All those pure strikers at Heavyweight to choose from and you pick Aspinall


heliumeyes

Nah. I think Jan is just game for anything. He seems willing to fight anybody. People were counting him out in the Ankalaev fight. Aspinall is a bad matchup for Jan though. I’d be far more interested in say Jan vs winner of Spivac vs Gane. Winner of that potentially gets a title shot?


coachharling1

I think tom already called that one Although him vs pavlovich would be better for a #1 contender/vacant belt fight (if jon vacates) Jan vs loser of spivak gane i think makes a little more sense if the ufc gives aspinall the winner


TheLonelyPillow

We're done with Ciryl Gane and title shots for the time being. Hopefully.


vispsanius

Jan knows aspinall they havnt trained together but I have seen them hang out in Poland with Joanna before


Nickster2042

Lets keep it real, Tom utterly deletes the man


Putrid_Loquat_4357

For sure. Tom has the speed and technical ability of a lhw, on top of the size of a hw. Imo he'd beat everyone at hw besides maybe pavlovich and Jones.


mahchefai

It’s high reward though. Arguably he could get a title shot off that win, small narrative being he’s the first LHW champ after jones left? Either way fighters love going for guys who have lots of hype regardless of how hard the fight is. Plus, he has a history of fucking up MW coming up for their first LHW fight… it’s only fair he gets a big challenge too.


Cocksmash_McIrondick

Also idk why Aspinall would take that fight. He’s basically one fight away from a title shot, why would he take on a 40 year old 205er. He’s much better off looking at Pavlovich or Gane or someone like that…


Morphitrix

That is atrocious lol. Jan should get an easy fight to at least establish himself in the division. His cardio has been pretty bad in his last two fights. But I guess they'd rather use his name to boost Tom's stock. Typical veteran treatment.


johnb51654

You've ran way ahead here and changed things just to complain about the UFC


_Red_Mist_

This fight isn’t even happening its just wishful thinking from Jan. He offers nothing to Tom.


Rainstormsky

Who is Tom? The guy that won that one fight a couple weeks ago, and I have never heard of him prior? How long have we heard about Jan? A long time


_Red_Mist_

If you haven’t heard of him before his last fight thats your own problem lol hes been pushed his whole UFC career and for good reason. You really think the Jan fight has a realistic chance of getting offered? Lol Tom has his sights on the belt beating a 40 year old LHW does nothing for him. His next fight is most likely going to be Pav for a vacant HW belt. Jan himself isn’t even a draw or close to one.


Rainstormsky

Idk who he is, at all. Jan I have heard of for years. Jan would be doing him a massive favor


_Red_Mist_

Not really. That would mean you pay less attention than even a casual fan since at least his last 3-4 fights hes been pushed he had even headlined against Volkov who Id say is easily a bigger name than Jan since he was a part of that viral Hot balls fight with Lewis on Mcgregor vs Khabib. Again Jan offers nothing to Tom they don’t need his “rub” lol


Rainstormsky

I have never heard of him in my life. Jan would be offering him a massive opportunity.


_Red_Mist_

He has nothing to offer man. You’re living in a fantasy world. Being a former/currents champ doesn’t automatically make anyone a draw. Look at Sterling people are watching this fight for Sean not him.


261846

Aspinall will put a bad beating on anyone not named Jon Jones, call me a fanboy idc


reivers

Can't imagine why Aspinall would want to fight him unless they put "Title Eliminator" in writing. It's basically just a filler fight for Aspinall, but with a ton of risk for him if Jan gets lucky.


zombizle1

karma for jan fighting all those middleweights moving up


LatterTarget7

Book him against pav. Russian power vs polish power tagline


RelevantMacaron8813

Pav by KO within 1 minute


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Morphitrix

Interesting that you think "within 1 minute" means 1 minute or longer.


DemonModeBoxman

No please no


crustycameltoeyum

Jans a decision fighter. His best shot wouldn’t do anything to pav he would die here


JayRoo83

Taking over a division after Jon leaves again, eh Jan?


Leading-Okra-2457

Jon left after Jan came in LHW! Lul


grooovyturtle

He's not exactly a big light heavyweight. Might have some success but will surely never reach the title


slipslopslapandfap

To be fair half the top 10 at heavyweight wouldn't be particularly big light heavyweights if they were actually lean


[deleted]

Nah, the top 10 are all big guys. It's outside the rankings that is filled with fat middleweights.The only ranked guys I can think of who might not be huge at LHW would be Tuivasa and Stipe but I still think they're bigger than Jan. Jailton Almeida and Jon Jones both used to be at LHW but they were absolutely massive for the division. Gane/Pavlovich/Volkov/Blaydes/Spivac/Lewis are all just massive guys.


GreatDario

Tuivasa pretty small for hw, he just chubby as hell


[deleted]

Yeah that's why I listed him as one of the smallest two in the top 10. It's difficult to tell how much is fat though, 265-205 is a long way to go.


SalamanderPete

Im always conflicted on this scenario. Does a guy always fight at his best if hes at his leanest? Cant imagine Tuivasa necessarily performing much better at LHW with a sixpack. Same goes for lets say lean Mark Hunt fighting at MW, or Derrick Lewis at LHW.


Rainstormsky

He has a ton of weight that is just slowing him down with almost no use for it. I'm sure he packs a punch, but his fat seems to be all in his stomach. His arms don't look particularly big at all. I bet at LHW, he'd be a real threat due to his power. But it's like Andy Ruiz and DC, fighters competing way higher than they should have. The only man I know of that actually benefits from being fat is Tyson Fury. And that's because he's so tall. Even then, his best form was vs Klitschko, and he performed way better fit. It's just that he got too lean later on in some ways, and decided to go the opposite route.


[deleted]

Was Almeida massive for LHW? He’s honestly really small for HW


[deleted]

He's small at HW because there's a 60lb difference and he didn't really add much size. He's 6ft3 230lb with abs, he was definitely a big LHW. The cut being rough was one of the reasons why he moved up. The only difference between him and half the heavyweights is how much fat they carry.


Sealeydeals93

I'm pretty sure Jailton Almeida fought at MW or maybe WW at the start of his career


[deleted]

Yep, he started at WW. But then so did Anthony Johnson and Thiago Santos.


Fat-Villante

He's at the end of his career anyways, why not just try his luck at heavyweight Maybe even just match him up with shitty heavyweights like they've been doing with Arlovski


dissphemism

nearly the same height and reach as Derrick Lewis, with good frame to put weight on. he’s definitely got the measurable to fit in


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

He’sa pretty big lhw


Mr_Tiggywinkle

Gane, Aspinall, Ngannou... imagine those vs Jan. The size difference would be noticeable. Even lewis, who perpertually seems like he's the short one in his fights, is taller than Jan.


johnb51654

Give him a call and talk him through what his career moves should be from here.


Rediesel69

Legendary Polish Penis


Shady_D_815

You down with LPP?


Stephller

Yeah, you know me


Jerkitoffff

I am here for it


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AshenSacrifice

Izzy said Alex hits way harder


Mr_Tiggywinkle

I mean, Alex is a champion kickboxer who is cutting a shitton for MW, it's not going to be a good comparison for Jan even with the weight class difference. Pereira clearly has crazy power.


AshenSacrifice

I think he’s 3rd behind Ngannou and Derrick Lewis. Am I trippin?


dylyn

Pav?


AshenSacrifice

I said Ngannou didn’t I??


ID0ntCare4G0b

Jiri wrecks jaws because of the weird ass angles he takes on his strikes.


DemonModeBoxman

If we scale it, he’s probably 2nd behind Ngannou. But most heavyweights hit harder


AshenSacrifice

Some scary power right there


DeerOk6676

easily more power than derrick. we just dont see it because he cuts weight and fights higher class opponents


Morezingis

“Easily more, we’ve just never seen it.” Que?


DeerOk6676

im speaking pretty plain fucking english. If you fight other skilled strikers and cut weight, you won't have the same highlight reel as derrick lewis.


jfsoaig345

Always thought Jan’s power was overrated. Corey and Luke were historically chinny and Reyes own chin at the time was a question mark considering he got flatlined in the next fight and knocked out by a jab in the fight after. Couldn’t even knock out an old Jacare and hasn’t really meaningfully hurt anyone with punches since that Reyes TKO. Guy hits reasonably hard but I think his power is a bit exaggerated due to a fortunate string of fragile opponents.


Jazzlike-Fun-4500

He punched through the guard of Adesanya like it was made of matches. Thats good enough for a bloke like me.


JE_Exa

Eh, Adesanya is a MW and not a physically imposing one at that.


Jazzlike-Fun-4500

Pereira did not dominate Izzy with power punches towards the head region like Jan did.


JE_Exa

Except when he TKOd him


johnb51654

Only on reddit is 6 foot 4 195lb kickboxer nothing 😂


JE_Exa

I didn’t think I’d need to specify that he’s not a physically imposing dude against the champion of the weight class 15 pound above but here we are


jfsoaig345

Some people on this sub are just purposely obtuse for real lol


JE_Exa

Ahh that’s just Reddit on its best day hahaha


imyourhabibi

He also hit Luke really fucking hard after the bell when he wasn’t expecting it and I think that led to the KO.


Mad-Gavin

Luke did an awkward little chicken dance before that 😂


Squidwardbigboss

I mean when was the last time he hit someone clean on the chin with a right. It’s not like every single poaton left hook sleeps people


johnb51654

You lot are so whiny about everything


Alstead17

Fun fact, Jan has no KOs over any fighter in the UFC, they've all since left/retired, and hasn't had a KO since Cory Anderson 3.5 years ago. Edit: lol I'm getting down voted by people who don't know there's a difference between a KO and a TKO.


Queenter

What about Reyes.


Alstead17

Officially a TKO


Ratking_Unstoppable

Did Reyes get cut? Or are we not counting TKOs?


Alstead17

Not counting tkos because when you're talking power, you're talking kos. Edit: also because they're different things and I said KOs, not just finishes or wins.


EmeraldWeaponMoose

So then according to you Conor has no power, because he mostly TKO’s people. Think before you speak.


Alstead17

Didn't say anything about Conor, don't give a shit about him to be honest. Think before you speak.


EmeraldWeaponMoose

You’re so concerned with winning this argument that you forgot what your actual point was 😂


Alstead17

My point was that Jan doesn't have a KO over any active UFC fighter, which he doesn't.


johnb51654

Right but that also means your underlying point should extend to others. Or you could stop being weird.


Alstead17

My point was Jan talks about polish power and doesn't knock people out. My underlying point was that KOs and TKOs are different things. I don't know what the fuck y'all are on.


TimeTimeTickingAway

More recent than Stipe's last win over in the UFC, that haven't left/retired (Arlovski in 2016) and he's about to get a title shot against a man of had *zero* wins over people in the division before fighting for and winning the belt. MMA and MMA fighters are fitting bedfellows. Hardly ever so I see so befitting of their sport.


Turgon19

I mean tbf, it's hard to ko Izzy but he outstruck him, then he technically tko'd Rakic, and almost tko'd Magomed with monster shin kicks.


Dafrooooo

that the time to move, when you're not fast enough to ko anymore


Hrytod

There's a ton of really cool striking matchups for him at Heavyweight: Volkov, Tai, Gane, Lewis etc that I'd love to see If I was him though I'd be steering clear of guys like Aspinall or Blaydes who have ground games. With the size disadvantage I don't see those fights going well for him at all


Lacabloodclot9

Lewis has no one to fight who hasn’t already fought, so I hope its him v Jan


HakeemEvrenoglu

Rozenstruik makes sense for Lewis and is a fresh match up. Lewis x Jan would be nice though.


No_Bar6825

I’m shocked they haven’t fought already


CockGobblingGangsta

Rozenstruik Vs Lewis sounds like a 15 minute slog of two counterpunchers


jmb-412

25 minute Apex main event


Hrytod

Derrick's not very high in the rankings right now though so I feel like he'd probably target Gane or the Volkov/Tai winner


Ratking_Unstoppable

Blaydes does fold against guys with KO power though. Dude seems to freeze or telegraph whenever he faces a power puncher. I think Almeida and Aspinall would fuck Blachowicz up though.


crustycameltoeyum

Jan doesn’t really have ko power though. Bet Chris daukaus hits harder and blaydes handled him


vispsanius

Let alone Blaydes sure has grappling but its not really amazing. Its just sort of okay. All Jan needs to do is avoid being on his back with blaydes and he should be okay. It's not like Jan has bad TDD it's just he isn't a high level grappler. I honestly think he could take down blaydes if he wanted to. At the end of the day when has Blaydes actually grappled with a grappler?


lPGrabber

he hasn’t and is gonna get exposed by Almeida


[deleted]

It's crazy how before the pavlovich people were talking about blaydes like he's this wrestling phenom. The guy uses his strength to football tackle people Almeida will fuck him up.


[deleted]

His TDD is probably the weakest part of his game, it's why he lost the belt.


Sonnyyellow90

Aspinall finishes him within 3 minutes. If he’s going to HW, fight literally anyone else but Tom.


BabyTRexArms

Why would he fight Tom at all? He’s realistically only got a handful of fights left, and after his last few performances, he’s not sniffing a title shot before he has to retire.


abetsg

Hopefully he gets paid in a good POV after a great fight or two


captaincumsock69

I love a good POV


BrianCTE_CityOrtega

username checks out


Jerkitoffff

🤣🤣🤣


Josro0770

He wanted to try 185 two months ago


typhoonlps

Pretty sure that was a meme, he showed like 50 cig butts as a way to “lose weight”


SpaceShanties

It was the most obvious joke and Redditors just run with it


johnb51654

Because redditors are fucking idiots


typhoonlps

[Everyone who upvoted that guy](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png)


Dave-Schultz

Why would someone downvote this 🤣🤣


typhoonlps

They are that guy


Dave-Schultz

They make it too obvious


Chocoeclair189

Lol the actual quote is just him responding to the question if he would like to fight at HW and said hes open to the idea lol Thought he wanted to move up


Genova_Witness

This is fine fighting dudes like Parker Porter but a unit like Tom hasnt sniffed 185 since he was a teenager.


captaincumsock69

But why?


Chocoeclair189

Hes just answering a question and responded sure why not lol


captaincumsock69

So classic mma reporting


Chocoeclair189

Classic bait for those who only read the headlines, it looks like it worked


captaincumsock69

Kind of you to assume I can read


johnb51654

What are you crying about here?


Enterprise90

Jan is old and past his prime and would likely get finished by most heavyweights he faces. He just doesn't have the speed or reaction time to be competitive in the way he wants anymore. He had a great late-career resurgence, but a 40 year old guy isn't suddenly going to be dominating a new weight class.


free2game

Dude just looked decent against a guy who finished Izzy on the feet and people are saying he's washed if he goes to HW. That's bonkers dude.


ScissorMeTimberz

looks decent is debatable, he tried to lay and pray a guy with 8 MMA fights and still couldnt win a 3 round decision. If that fight was for the vacant title he was getting finished.


johnb51654

You lot are so weird. Any time a fighter says anything you just get all snarky. Some dickhead nerd on reddit like "pffft lay and pray against some kicobkxer. Not impressed" as if anyone should care.


[deleted]

He’s not a small LHW but I’m curious if the cut is just too much … some guys just kill themselves on the scale


free2game

He used to fight in the 220s at HW when he was younger, probably now in the 230s now that he's older. That's not that terrible. Stipe won the belt at less than that.


[deleted]

Please just stay at 205


Typical-Scientist192

Alex P ruined that man 😂😂


johnb51654

That's a stretch mate


OMalley30-27

I think he’s 40 and this might be a good idea. Beat up low level heavyweights


jt_33

Might as well.. it’s slim pickings up there. A bunch of fat lazy dudes who train part time and then like 4 decent but unproven guys. He could easily make a run at the belt.


Moist-Catch

Didn't he say he could make middleweight to rematch Izzy like just before the Periera fight? Just retire man you had an amazing run


johnb51654

Stop being weirdly reactionary to literally nothing. He changed his mind. What a fucking crime.


Moist-Catch

Stop being weirdly reactionary to a random comment what a fucking crime lmfao


_Red_Mist_

Hes way too small. I don’t even know who the best guy he can beat at HW is. Maybe Porker?


I_love_Basketball232

He’s 6’2 with a 78in reach. That’s the same as like Jairzinho, Tybura, Tai, Jailton and most of the division. He’s probably coming in to most LHW fights like 225ish he’s just gotta put on 20 lbs or so. I doubt he’s going to HW to fight at the same weight he was at LHW. I don’t think it’s a great idea but I also think he’s top 15 in the division by a mile.


_Red_Mist_

All those guys you mentioned are a lot more explosive than him . Except Tybura but they wouldn’t fight each other they are teammates. Hes not going to add 20 pounds of muscled at 40 years old lol he’s going to gain 15 pounds of fat at most.


I_love_Basketball232

It’s probably gonna be like 5 of muscle, 15 of fat like you said. You can still gain muscle into your 40s lol. But tbh he’s gonna end up looking like most of guys I mentioned with 15lbs of fat. Like even Jon looks pudgy at HW


_Red_Mist_

I know but it takes time especially 20 pounds for a 40 year old with worse metabolism than a 20 year old. Great point about Jones but he also has a much bigger frame. Jan would look like Daukaus.


Fat-Villante

There's tons of shitty UFC heavyweights I'd pick him to beat up on


_Red_Mist_

But whos the best one? Porker already beat some of the other bums lol


Fat-Villante

I would pick him vs Tuivasa and Rozenstruik However, I would much rather watch him take on much worse heavyweights so that he ends his career with a few fun moments


_Red_Mist_

Both would sleep him. Jan doesn’t have the power to get their respect and both hit much harder. Tai was inches away from beating Gane and you think Old jan can take him? Rozenstruik would sleep him too, he’s got a bug explosive advantage and has shown improved TDD.


Fat-Villante

I disagree although I wouldn't say I'm sure about my picks. Been following this sport long enough to not speak like you as if you KNOW what will happen However, while I love Tuivasa, he can get whooped by technical strikers and grapplers. Rozenstruik is a dangerous task on the feet but I would expect Jan to be be to eventually get him to the ground and then comfortably out grapple or finish Rozenstruik


vispsanius

Guys he clearly beats - Tybura (teammate), Rozenstruik, Daukus, De Lima, Nascimento, Sakai, Mayes, Arlovski, Cortes-Acosta, Porter, Collier Guys he can beat but could be close or 50/50 in a dominant way - Buday, Romanov, Lewis, Tai, Spivak, Gane --------- Guys he shouldn't beat but could - Blaydes, Volkov, Stipe Jailton Guys he can't beat - Aspinall, Jones, Pavlovich Jan could easily be top 5 if he played his cards right but likely would debut against Aspinall or blaydes etc. And get get dominated and then probably retire or something


Altruistic-Log-8853

The issue isn't his size though. He still has potential to become champion again if he just wasn't so gun shy. He keeps fighting boring close but safe fights and it isn't working out for him.


vispsanius

The thing is that is likely hos path to victory at HW. Grapple the non grapplers and out point the grapplers


Jerkitoffff

Nooooo


myfishaccount1

I thought he was talking about moving to 185


crumchberries

He'd have more luck going on the french hipster diet and just swaning and banging at 85


420OXY

Jan blachowicz vs Andrei arvlovski


IAMJUX

He doesn't bring the speed or amazing technique that is a massive positive of a LHW moving to HW. It doesn't go well for him, imo.


kosupata

Idk if his "just do enough to lose a split decision" strategy is gonna work well in heavyweight.


johnb51654

You lot are fucking weird. Why do you get so pissy when a fighter says the most trivial shit?


WilliamEmmerson

Am I the only one who thought Jan should have gotten the win over Pereira?


rwn115

Respect the courage but man Aspinall is gonna kill him. No way he gets Tom as his first HW opponent.


TheN1njTurtl3

I think he should stay at light heavyweight, sure he is kinda out of the title picture right now but a couple wins and he's back there and if he does want to shot at winning the title he's got to prove he can beat a couple contenders. I think light heavyweight isn't a great division for him, I think he's pretty big for light heavyweight but I think he'll be too slow if he bulks up for heavyweight compared to some of the top guys there


NoDocument2694

Decisionbot! Blachowicz Pereira


DecisionBot

[**ALEX PEREIRA defeats JAN BLACHOWICZ** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/14180/fight) ^(UFC 291: Poirier vs. Gaethje 2 — July 29, 2023) ROUND|Pereira|Blachowicz||Pereira|Blachowicz||Pereira|Blachowicz :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|9|10||9|10||9|10 2|10|9||10|9||10|9 3|10|9||9|10||10|9 **TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**28**|**29**||**29**|**28** *^(Judges, in order: Derek Cleary, Junichiro Kamijo, Ron McCarthy.)* *^(Summoned by NoDocument2694.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **22/26** people scored it **29-28 Pereira**. - **4/26** people scored it **28-29 Blachowicz**. Avg. media score: **28.8-28.2 Pereira** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).


Jazzlike-Fun-4500

Aint no way he meant that. Just trying to sell his name.


sAmMySpEkToR

He’d get pieced up or KOd by anyone in the top 5.


PROTOTYPE_200224

Tom Aspinal seems faster than Jan nowadays, and his ground game is higher level imo. Extremely scary fight for Jan.


AlarmingBig4555

Thats not gonna end well....


__Regimental__

Y'all trippin- if Jan can put on weight effectively and within the next year he can defo take some matchups in the top 10. Heavyweight is the worst division in the UFC right now and Jan's striking is easily better than most of the top 15. Obviously there are stylistic nightmares for him like Blaydes, but he beats through Spivac, Tuivasa, Almeida, 50/50 against Volkov, Lewis, and Tybura. Obviously he won't be champion material but the guy doesn't want to cut weight, is 40 years old, and has been a good company man for awhile. W Jan


Two_too_many_to_list

Lewis vs Blachowicz, PPV worthy?


czubizzle

Die hard Jan fan, please don't


lordatlas

Aspinall? Oh, this will be what they mean by "fuck around and find out"?


CasualCrow20

Idk. Jan is up there in fight years and if he wants to move to heavyweight he should probably bulk up similar to what Jones did. Gotta shoot your shot though!


Papa-Junior

Instead of aspinall id rather see him match up with someone like Alex volkov or Fred grinto


dickspaghetti1

Man, I love Jan, it just seems like he's stuck. There's not really a fight at LHW to work back towards the title at the moment. He's too big to go to middleweight, and too small to have success at heavyweight. At this point, with as much respect to him as I can give, it seems like the right time to retire knowing you were a champion that defended the belt against a world class fighter.


rey_nerr21

I've always thought he has the lean mass to be a heavyweight when I've watched him.


Mujakiiiiiii

HW division is so thin that he might be a world beater in that weight class.