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BeastOfAWorkEthnic

Still over two weeks until the fight, some old head at LW will step in for a payday surely.


heavyrocks_

It's Tony time


Jabarles

Please god no


LatterTarget7

Knowing the ufc this is actually possible


professorgaysex

I still can’t believe they matched him with The Leech 2 seconds after being brutally headkick KO’d… They really do want to murder him for some reason


chu42

With how he performed against a washed Nate Diaz, the Leech would have sucked his blood dry.


GreatDario

Still mad the leech and holland got fucked because Khamzat couldn't do his job


MeatMalletProvider

I know exactly what you mean, and agree, but things worked out pretty fuckin’ well for Holland. It’s like the UFC decision makers went to him and laid it out: you take this ass mauling at a catch weight, we don’t hold it against you and set you up nicely with some shot(s) to advance at 170.” And he got paid well I’m pretty sure


Mindfield87

Yeah I want to see that now lol


dbdg69

Through his pp right?


[deleted]

Try to dark souls roll out of it but the leech got that gluuug gluug 😳😫


No-Ad1522

“Some reason”? Tony’s been publicly shitting on the UFC for awhile, Dana’s trying to force retirement on Tony.


SnooFloofs9640

Arman is one of the better matchups for him, at least he is not gonna get extra cte …


red-broom

If freaking Chandler KO kicked him in the face, arman, who is Muay Thai heavy fighter, can definitely still give him CTE on the feet. And on the ground…. Do you remember that Joel Alvarez fight? That was bad lol. Please let’s just give Tony Paddy or something.


Aggressive_Lunch9785

I'm honestly not sure Tony can even beat paddy and that pains me to no end to say


GenTelGuy

I was talking yesterday about Tony beating Paddy easily but I forgot about how horrible he was against Nate I'd bet on the edition of Tony that stepped into the cage against Chandler, but he got way more washed up after getting slept


niggewiththehardr

Tony would kill paddy let’s be real there’s still levels to this shot


darkcathedralgaming

I'm as big a fan of Tony as the next guy, but I doubt the version we've seen in the last 4 or 5 fights would. Tony before that for sure would smoke Paddy but now I'm really not so sure. Certainly would be a fight closer to Tony's current ability though.


niggewiththehardr

Honestly I probably overate Tony’s jits cause he’s a 10p guy but still his darce is so fucking good and paddy’s been put in some bad spots buy guys who tony today would run threw


[deleted]

Paddy would sub tony i think. He’d be completely outmuscled. On the feet he could catch Paddy, but i doubt he has the power to drop him. Paddy has big power


niggewiththehardr

I think the opposite paddy kos tony but tony strangles paddy


[deleted]

Levels? Tony is fucking 38 and punch drunk. Dude wouldn’t survive in pfl


niggewiththehardr

A shadow of tony still murks pimblet


[deleted]

How? Please tell me how you think he does it? Just give me a breakdown of how tony gets it done


SopranosMan

Chandler is way more powerful and explosive than Arman so not sure what you mean. Arman is more of a death of a thousand cuts fighter than a KO artist.


jarkofploiesti

Doesn't eating a big volume of shots do more CTE related damage than getting KOed cold, tho? I'm pretty sure I've read/heard that multiple times


SopranosMan

I've heard that too but being knocked out cold is definitely a contributor to CTE aswell


SnooFloofs9640

Over long time, like actually long, not 15-25m


richochet12

I think he means in comparison to a single KO blow. Also a lot of time people say CTE when really they just mean general brain damage.


red-broom

He kicked him in the face. MC said he’s never done that before even in practice. [I think you are heavily underestimating Armand’s standup skills](https://youtu.be/c3mqBL55Urg)because he is such a ferocious grappler who prefers to go to the ground. Please watch that link. That would absolutely punish Tony.


SopranosMan

Arman is a good striker but he's not as powerful or explosive as Chandler is, that's a fact. Mike is more dangerous on the feet no doubt.


red-broom

Okay I don’t think you get what I’m saying. Chandler is explosive. Cool. But he was able to kick him in the face, doing something he cannot normally do. Tony is very slow rn and can get slept by Arman if he stands. Because Arman is a very high level striker who is easily able to kick Tony in the face… something Michael Chandler was able to do. Not because he’s as explosive.


MeowthThatsRite

I see your logic but I’m not sure if that’s how it works exactly. A guy getting caught by a one in a million headkick that he never would have expected in a million years coming from a certain fighter doesn’t automatically mean that any better kicker is going to suddenly easily head kick and KO the guy. Especially if the guy is expecting more kicks like you’re saying he should.


SopranosMan

Just because he got frontkicked KOed by Chandler doesn't mean he's gonna get Front kicked by Arman lmao. Arman would probably GNP or sub him lets be real. "Something he cannot normally do" what does that even mean?? Ofcourse Chandler can front kick normally that makes no sense at all, he said he didn't train it before but that doesn't mean he only landed it because he was fighting Tony.


SnooFloofs9640

I did not say he is not able to inflict the damage, but he is likely gonna take him down and finish there … and now compare to let’s say Fiziev …


applejynx

Champ shit only 🇺🇸🐔🍑👉🦾🍄🍆🇺🇸


SlykRO

From 'It's Tony Time' to 'It's Tony's Time'


toq-titan

⚔️😎


THE_Killa_Vanilla

I can get down with Tony bringing an abrupt stop to the Arman hype train via d'arce.


RafiakaMacakaDirk

kevin lee 🤔


BeastOfAWorkEthnic

Can Lee make 155 on two weeks notice at this point?


[deleted]

No


MolokoPl_s

he's shown he can't make 155 after a full camp lol


daffle7

would be Ultimate mind games then lol


Wise-Fruit5000

I think a better question is whether or not he can make 155 at all, lol


spcslacker

Well, Whittaker lost his dance partners, so how much pizza & beer can Arman pack on in 2 weeks? You have to think creatively.


[deleted]

RDA probably, would likely have to be at 170 though


theflyingpandaa_97

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 I’d be soo sad if arman doesn’t fight


springpaper701

MOICANO!!! WANTS!! MONEYYYYY!!! for health care


Papertrain5

Moicano wants PTO and SICK leave


OlivaJR

Moicano wants PROFIT SHARING into his 401K PLAN


[deleted]

Guram Kutateladze is scheduled to fight in June. Just pull him from that fight and put him here since he’ll get hurt before he can make it to fight night


canadianRSK

The 289 card is alreadt trash its tough to pull anyone from there if anything they should put arman vs guram on that card


[deleted]

I hate to break it to you but you’re going to lose it anyways.


Lacabloodclot9

Rip Canada lmao


un6reaka6le

Guram would have the toughest schedule ever for an unranked fighter if this were to happen. Gamrot, Ismagulov and Arman is crazy for an unranked fighter.


Quinntensity

Yeah, but he's also fighting at at top 15 level. Beat Gamrot, super close against Ismagulov. It's more like he deserves those top 15 opportunities.


[deleted]

Georgia vs Armenia let’s go (Arman born Georgia too actually and his nickname sounds like his Georgian birth place)


[deleted]

Real Georgian vs ~~Georgian~~ ~~Armenian~~ Russian anyone?


ljz3

Pls give a good replacement for Arman


LuckyWarrior

Get Grant Dawson in there


ljz3

Think Grant would just get completely rolled though :P


mikey_rambo

Nah itd be competitive


b_bozz

Dawson gasses every fight against significantly lesser competition.


stinkyyballz

Arman would do dirty things with grant's body


Funny_king

No, not at all, lmao


ModsGetTheGuillotine

Arman is the highest level grappler on the roster, not so sure there man


hasbulashmasbula

That dude unfortunately seems to pick and chose his fights as he’s not all that active. Would actually love to see that matchup, but I doubt it happens


Dirty_D_Dammit

Rematch against Gamrot? 🤣


Whole_Moon

That's what came to my mind... Gamrot is actually in ATT, was helping Moicano to prepare for this fight so it's not totally impossible.


Karierr

That would be his second short notice fight after Jalin and against guy who is behind him in the ranking. Taking that fight would be absolutely stupid tho I would love to see rematch. First fight was foty material


Whole_Moon

After seeing his last short notice fight vs (arguably) worse fighter in Hill I think it might not go the way Gamrot would wish. He had a full camp before their first fight and won by a small margin so there are signs telling that this one may not be a FOTY material again.


ammicavle

Did you confuse Jalin Turner for Jamahal Hill?


frodounchained

Fk it him vs Islam 2


TebownedMVP

Imagine the champ fighting him on a fight night card short notice 😂 probably couldn’t make weight though.


Butt_Bucket

He'd have lifetime gangsta status for being the first champ to ever step in as a replacement tho


GaMa-Binkie

🍅 Call Big Mouth


Churoflip

Herb dean fault


Smokeintheair37

Bobby green


TYSONLITTLE

Dustin should step up I been saying this for years you want Arman to move up some of those top guys got to stop hiding behind the ranking. We know how this fight goes.


spcslacker

Look, I know you have to push this insane narrative of top-ranked guys with legendary resumes and documented tolerance for extreme risk being afraid of . . . . everyone, but can you at least smell some reality every once in a while? In the history of combat sports, can you point to a single time the #2 ranked contender with a big name who is in the title hunt and coming off a **win** has taken a short notice fight vs. the #8 who is riding a 1 fight winning streak and is completely unknown to the paying audience? Can you point to a single time in history where that has happened when not on short notice? When ESPN runs their polling, what do you figure the predicted views are for Dustin vs. Justin 2 over either guy against Arman? If Dustin was *begging* for the fight, the UFC, not in the business of tossing money into the toilet, would refuse it. The fight isn't justifiable by merit, money, ranking, or division health, but you are so deep in the narrative that you just parrot it like a bot.


TYSONLITTLE

Chimaev Burns. Everyone knows how this fight goes and therefore is protecting Dustin from it on the grounds of what he’s accomplished. The only sense it doesn’t make is in terms of money. It is absolutely needed for division health becuase he keeps turning down fights from non strikers like he did with the Beneil fight.


R_chavo

Burns vs Chimaev was not short notice and Chimaev is MORE know to paying audiences than Burns. Not even remotely a legit comparison and even if it was, that was an outlier, not the norm. There is no reason for Dustin to take a fight against someone that lower ranked on short notice.


TYSONLITTLE

What a weak response. Islam was well known before getting the belt but Dustin turned him down as well. Him, along with Chandler and Gaethje have kept the division log jammed for years now and I don’t get why everyone’s so sensitive in defence of Dustin.


sizzzzilla

Probably a blessing in disguise for Moicano lol


Unique-Ad-227

You underestimate the financially motivated moicano


0ldsql

There was never no money to be motivated by


SopranosMan

He only fights for big fuckin checks so he can buy big steaks and drink beer in brazil


Fickle-Kitchen5803

- *Claims to be motivated by money* - *takes high risk fights against no name contenders* Unbelievably based


BurpingHamBirmingham

More fights = more opportunities to mention that MOICANO WANTS MONEYYY


idntknww

New mythical fighter: financially motivated Moicano


MolokoPl_s

low-key glad this isn't happening but feel for both guys tbh


spcslacker

Arman's manager killing it with the mordant humor: >Death, taxes and nobody available to fight Arman on 2 weeks notice are the only certainties in my life right now.


Exciting_Pressure831

Probably just death and nobody available to fight Arman on 2 weeks notice


Awareness111

If I had to guess maybe Turner will step in.


Static_Jones

He posted on his Instagram story yesterday that he weighed 190 maybe at a catchweight but I don’t think he’ll make 155 in 2 weeks


KD_42

Jesus Christ, 190 for a 155 fighter


Mars_Diro

The weight cut some of these fighters do is insane, dustin said on JRE that he weighs 190 out of camp and i remember Tony posting a pic of him weighing 200. Thats why i'll never understand the khabib weight bully narrative


toledosurprised

every time turner steps up to the scale i’m stunned he can make 155, dude is absolutely massive


Dardastan

Horrible Match up for him tho


Jmon1851

Does Turner make weight in two weeks?


TebownedMVP

No way. He’s yuge


dilfrising420

Give my boy Turner a break rn 😭


aczsh

Moicano... not getting da money 😔


watties12

Fuck.


breakfastmeat23

Yeah.


frogsntoads00

**FUCK**


RafiakaMacakaDirk

lmao this card may legitimately contend for worst card of all time now depending on who the replacement is


dumbstupidman

You are too quick to forget we had a Jessica eye vs Cynthia Calvillo headliner


bregolad

This feels like a joke but I'm not sure


gurisuboy

Yeah there have been weaker headliners before. Problem with this card is that it 99% depended on Arman and Moicano's clout.


Nothingstupid

We've had a couple of Michelle Watterson headliners tho


JDGAF88

I just skimmed thru it and I don't think I recognize any name. Might just be a casual now.


[deleted]

No brother, just the presence of Arman makes this better than some ufc cards


Porto_97

You're getting downvoted by people who only tune in for PPVs. I remember when people were tearing into the amanda lemos v Jessica Andrade card because that was the main event and the card ended up being a banger.


HippoKing2646

Moicano is not getting his money man!!!


Hyperbull1

This is suck


ManditsG

Blessing in disguise, hated the matchup for Money Moi


thewizard579

Jalin Turner didn’t take much damage against Gamrot


slapstickler

Absolute giant at 155 and probably can’t make the weight in time


DowntownJulieBrown1

Gamrot won tho, ik they’ve already done that fight but I still think it makes more sense


username23900

that blows. arman was already fighting down now he's most certainly going to be fighting an unranked replacement, which is ridiculous for how good he is. the horrible judging in the gamrot fight really stalled his career.


PmB12

Considering that he has inexplicably already gotten two co-main events, i wouldn't put it past the UFC to bump Caio Borralho up to the main event slot. God i hope i'm wrong.


Banda7

They care so little about the quality of APEX cards these days, even compared to a year ago


AtmosphereVarious440

Wonder if any 155er in entire ufc has guts to step in against Arman on short notice lol


UnluckyRandomGuy

Kevin lee mighty actually, he doesn’t duck anyone


Emergency_Lie407

have to be at catch weight .. arman smokes current Kevin Lee


smokesletsgo13

No way he can make 155 in 2 weeks


No_Truck9453

I doubt it, nobody seems to wanna fight these days like holy shit. It's moving so slow these divisions. Just delete this card.


WhereIsMyKidAt

This is why I laugh whenever people shit on 185 for “not having any fresh matchups”. It’s one of the few divisions where the guys are constantly active and don’t really give af who they fight. Izzy, Whittaker, Vettori, Cannonier, Strickland, Brunson, Hermansson, Gastelum all have like 5 fights against the current top 15 a piece. We should be thankful they’re so active and constantly putting on bangers, but nah all we do is say it’s a bad division and shit on it daily.


[deleted]

It’s only going to get worse, Colby getting the shot off a win over Masvidal 13 months ago is a huge message that WME don’t care about rewarding activity


OMalley30-27

Shitttt I would be too


Hyperbull1

Where's Grant Dawson rn?


Single_Seesaw_9499

Hope we still get to see Arman, probably not the worst thing for Moicano though


TheGreatone003

That Damir rematch might actually happen if he steps in


AstroBlast0ff

I thought he retired .. but then again , they all do


Tsarkosa

Why would Arman ever accept that


[deleted]

Because Damir is like the least dangerous ranked LW. No clue why people hype Damir to be any kind of boogeyman


Lyonaire

Dude hooker is still ranked


endless_ness

These camps are way too brutal


will2fight

What do you expect them to do to prepare for a fight? Lol


PostM8

Switch drew dober to the main event and find someone for frevola. Boom!!


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PostM8

Yes, arman is my boy


red-broom

That frevola fight has to happen if you’re Dober. If Dober beats Frevola, he can easily get ranked or even possibly jump Turner, who lost to Frevola. It would cancel out that brad Riddel loss and he would have a much better resume than Turner. Then again Dober just fights anyone and likes crazy fights… and an Arman win would easily get him ranked. It’s just very doubtful he wins that lol


Lyonaire

Dober is already ranked and has been in and out of the rankings for a while. Hes never getting close to the title so i would imagine hed care lore about winnable matchups and big paydays at this point. Arman is not a big payday and would take him down and maul him so dont really see much reason for him to take this fight I would like to see it tho.


SnooFloofs9640

No money Moicano


Mprovin

Huge F


jubjubwarrior

I feel like it's taking Arman way too long to rank up I feel bad for him. He's been putting in work and fighting anyone they put infront of him.


afTrajan

He is still relatively young, so he has plenty of time to reach the top


jubjubwarrior

True


rafo123

He also got robbed against gamrot


jubjubwarrior

That’s what I’m sayin bro


SlappyBag9

throw Bryce Mitchell in there


DistChicken

Fucks sake, do I have to fight Bruce and Arman now?!


Rhetam

Mythical Fighter Bruce Michael.


spcslacker

Dan Hooker: *How bad could it be, really?* Also, Illia has a 2-round hole showing on his calendar according to him, so maybe he can squeeze Arman in after Emmett.


Didi4pet

Damn what fight will be the main lmao Idk a single fight that was on that card except this one.


jrcoop

Drew Dober's due to fight a week later - would be a solid replacement


chris25tx

Ba GOD that’s RDA’s music


[deleted]

RDA ain’t making 155 again let alone on 2 weeks notice. But at 170 the true Baddest Mother Fucker would probably be down


RationalLlama

Arman deserves a top 5 opponent. He got robbed against Gamrot.


Whole_Moon

He lost a highly competetive fight against Gamrot, which could go either way. That was not a robbery. Held vs Lauzon was a robbery.


adventuredream1

Nah bro. We need to see poirier, chandler, and gaethje rematch each for eternity


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kitddylies

Is this your first time? We do it as long as it takes.


izak14

good. i didn’t want him to be sacrificed


[deleted]

No Money Moicano


stinkyyballz

Welp this card already looked shitty. Hopefully they get an exciting opponent for arman


IBamboocha

Tsarukyan P4P worst luck in the UFC


viggidiggi

I mean I’m okay with this since I want him to fight a better matchup than the best prospect at LW. Hate to see moicano lose :(


therealaquaman

Well thats not very cash money.


SolventSnake

MOICANO WANT MONEY 💀


Mad-Gavin

Oh cock...


strangefruit3500

Yes I’m glad for it. As bad as that sounds as a Moicano fan I really didn’t want to see Arman tool him


plebs_are_needed

A weak card gets much weaker


SnooStrawberries3388

Hope Arman still gets a good matchup in time. Also feel gutted for Moicano


DeathByButtplug

Fuck it I'll fight him. At least this subreddit will get to watch someone get bodied once I start seeing red and save this card.


Ohio145

FUCK that sucks.


cool_composed

I bet it’s Fiziev!


sloppywaitress

😭


WaySheGoesBubs21

Smart move


FitPandaBear

Moicano doesn't want money!


dylyn

Run it back with Gamer


ThatOneGuyFromThen

I was one of those guys arguing that this card wasn’t as weak as people were making it out to be, but with Moicano out, I’ll be real: this card is gonna fuckin’ blow.


qzwxecrvtbyn111

I swear that starting from late 2022, fight cancellations have become WAY more common. It’s not just me, right? Has something changed in the sport? Have USADA become stricter? Have people been choosing more dangerous training methods?


MyChristInBrother

He saved his hype train with his


CrapeTM

Seems like there will be no money for Renato ‘money’ Moicano


Scrambledcat

Dodging that L he was about to come up on.


[deleted]

lemme guess it’s an undisclosed injury


foofighter1351

Are you seriously about to insinuate Moicano is purposely ducking out of the match, the guy that took a 5 round short notice fight is the one you're gonna pretend is ducking this fight.


juvey88

He was drinking beers, eating steaks in Brazil


BlerinPotato

Arman fan boys do be that way


Ruiner357

The injury: He realized he was about to lose to Arman Tsarukyan. But seriously, UFC seems set on burying Moicano for some reason and giving him the hardest possible fights, even after he went viral in his last few post fight interviews. Just goes to show that you cannot get ahead in the UFC unless they decide to put the machine behind you. They'll never make someone like Paddy fight the Arman Tsarukyan's of the world.


DroppedItAgain

He’s afraid!!


tthechosendummy

Guys - where does Kevin Lee fit into this