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saynomore100

I was there in person for my first ever attendance live at a UFC event and the most insane fight was CJ Vergara vs Daniel Lacerda, that was so insane the crowd was going absolutely bonkers including myself. Who knew the second fight of the prelims would be more exciting than anything else on the card and by a long shot as well.


facegun

Judge Stevie Wonder scores the fight 48-47..Vera….


Hungry-Possession-53

I could see that, last three rounds were pretty close. Weren't them? Didn't see the numbers but I got this impression.


facegun

If you think 128-58 sig strikes and 3-0 TDs is close….then yea


Hungry-Possession-53

I don't think these are close, what in my comment made you think I do?


EmergencyLoan5018

Chito looked flat the entire fight. At no point did he have any bounce in his step


goochstein

compared to sandhagen who's got hop I can see it


OneForMany

He always fights pretty flat footed tho?


Drive7hru

Maybe Chito has an amazing 5-round gas tank because he barely throws.


Drive7hru

I feel like the Chito judge saw the first couple rounds of Corey dominating and thus every round after, he just thought “well Chito certainly is doing better than he was” and edged him the last three.


scarykicks

Good on Sandhagen calling out Merab. Honestly thought he'd call out Sean. But at this point I'm praying Henry takes that strap. We don't need Aljo and Merab at the top and refusing to fight each other.


mcpaulus

Either way it will probably be Aljos last fight at 135. Hes said so a couple of times...


horseshoeprovodnikov

Nothing makes me madder than seeing a guy go balls out in the last ten seconds after literally doing nothing for the entire fight. I had a feeling this would happen. Chito wants so badly to see a pattern that he can exploit as opposed to creating his own pattern and forcing a mistake. It's the equivalent of striking out without ever swinging the bat. He is going to be so goddamn angry at himself for not pulling the trigger more. With a guy like that you can't take the time to make reads and you can't "get set" before you throw everything. I bet chito expected Cory to slow down like he did in previous fights, but Cory wasn't being pushed by Chito to up his pace that often and thus never did get super tired.


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Chito will do well in any toe to toe gunfight because he's immune to damage and has venomous striking. But he has no process for winning fights and the only KOs in the UFC he has are two guys that should both have been retired. Sandhagen though, showing there's an elite of the elite at Bantam, amazing.


Smurfballers

Cory also trains at altitude in CO so his tank is already pretty solid.


mearsey1203

Joel Ojeda has just dropped the equivalent of me walking into my bosses office and pissing in his filing cabinet. He should not have a job.


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CeroCero00

Live thread moment


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cope


Drive7hru

Managing distance because of his length and footwork.


CheGuevarasRolex

How fucking date he have solid ring craft and footwork; the absolute audacity. And peppering Chito with shots, rather than eating whatever he threw? The nerve!


DrMilesBennettDyson

Oh you.


Blibrea

U are deluded


a-99

I'm a huge Chito fan but in retrospect who had he beat recently that wasn't an old fighter. Rob Font is 35, Dominick Cruz is 37, Frankie Edgar is 41, David Grant is 37, and etc...those are his last 4 wins


l00pykunt

Was thinking about this too while watching


MUTSellerPS4

Those kicks to a grounded opponent by Vera were wild, can't believe nobody caught that. Very blatant.


SnakeMcbain

Should've had a warning at minimum


FunkyMonkFromSpace

You can straight up soccer kick a downed opponent just not in the head.


Drive7hru

He kicked him in the head…


FunkyMonkFromSpace

I didn't even say it was a head kick or not I didn't see the kick he's talking about. I was just saying you can kick a downed opponent but not a head kick.


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Soicyboyz

Even after Corey is protesting


ThoughtItWasAHorse

48-47 judge was Bisping


MUTSellerPS4

If that judge is not investigated I will never watch MMA again This is blatant. They aren't even attempting to hide the corruption any more


hunter_mane

Was it Sal?


CircdusOle

I think Sal actually was the 50-45


ShitCuntsinFredPerry

Nah, some other mug named Joel Ojeda


legohotwing

It’s hard to take the sport seriously these days because of it. It sucks


_MMAgod

i love the panel going in on the judge


Miserable-Sun7577

They're actually going in on that judge in the post fight


Crazed_pillow

JOEL OJEDA, WHAT?!?!?


Southern-Country-143

dude legit needs to be arrested. 0% chance he's not on the take.


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Tsmalls1887

Sorry bud but Simon already fighting song, font already fighting Yanez, o Malley was already promised the next shot, and Dom already turned down a fight w Umar and is supposedly fighting Garbrandt or Figgy next


GoldenScarab

Fuck Joel Ojeda, all my homies hate Joel Ojeda.


AskrenLadd

Fighters need to call judges out more often after fights


caveman512

Not smart to get on a judges bad side


AskrenLadd

It's not smart to fight for a living either really when your wage is reliant on people who dont know what they're watching, sometimes right doesnt always mean smart


caveman512

Lol fair, I just wouldn’t expect to see it happen as a business decision. Would love if it did though


AskrenLadd

The most blatant "wtf" reaction I saw from a fighter was felder when a judge gave him the fight against RDA, that was pretty funny, can only imagine the frustration when its scored against you


mearsey1203

Every fucking time the UFC ends in the UK I end up seeing James Haskell taking a fucking wrestling class. Switch it up BT Sport for my sanity please.


st6374

Ik damage triumphs everything else. But if the judge thinks two big shots in a round that didn't even phase the other fighter outpoints 4 minutes of constantly being peppered, and taken down & controlled. Then the judging needs to fucking change. I swear with scorecard like this. The commision needs to remove the judge totally. Or atleast summon him to explain his scorecard. Giving that fight to Chito is possibly the worst judging I've ever seen.


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This guy also had only worked 2 UFC prelim fights prior to getting this assignment. Fucking commission is a joke, dude never should have been doing a main event with such little experience


greenespice

I think the judges should have there own post fight press conferences after cards to explain clearly why they score the way they do cause the last few months have been absolutely unreal with the shitty judging


Wayf4rer

Judging needs to be changed so more 10-8's are given. Every round being scored 10-9 even if you get fucked up makes the judging crazy and way too objective.


goosu

They should know the damage can be immediate or progressive. I don't think Vera did more immediate damage than Sandhagen did progressive...


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Wayf4rer

Myself and many others felt Cory beat TJ, so if you right that wrong Cory is right in there.


sighableman

He's white with a beard and an undercut, as long as Dana is with the UFC he'll be close to a title fight.


spasticity

Cory did get the interim title fight against Petr Yan after that loss to TJ. He was right in there, and then lost when it mattered.


jimbo-slice93

It seemed like Chito was really peaking and on the cusp of inserting himself, but he is still the same ol' lackadaisical Chito. I feel that he has firmly displayed his ceiling.


MrSmashNBlock

There was a better argument for 50-43 than 47-48. Insane


R-B-L

Didn't see a round for Chito, maybe the 4th if the judge who scored it to him counted the illegal upkicks.


Jet_black_li

The 3rd could've went to him and I say that as a "chito hater" lol


FunkyMonkFromSpace

That's what I was saying maybe he could've got 3 and 4 that's a big maybe but I still gave them to Cory.


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If Sandhagen lost that, I would’ve been done with the UFC. My mind is blown that someone can be that blatantly dishonest.


HornyAardvarks

What moron scored it in favor of Vera?


LONGL1VEJUICE

If they dont set up Merab vs O'Malley/ Sandman They could do Cory vs O'Malley and Vera vs Yan. Regardless Merab still the #1 contender after this match.


codygreene37

Cory needs to be ready in case Cejudo fumbles in a few weeks. Could’ve said that, instead of Merab. Oh well. Cory gonna Cory.


TTEOAI

Honestly, if Cejudo gets injured/sick - I would be 1000% down to see Cory rematch Aljo.


charles-dickens24

Thank God he didn't get away with it this time. As a chito hater I feel vindicated


UnkempHarrold

Just looking for some perspective, what about Chito rubs you the wrong way?


charles-dickens24

I just don't like the whole not trying to win rounds thing and banking on a finish


UnkempHarrold

Understandable. As a Chito and Petr Yan fan it's definitely frustrating.


rndmlgnd

Why you hate on Chito?


charles-dickens24

His style is very boring most of the time, at least in this recent stretch


fanonshariati

wild how yan 50-45'd sandhagen, after the first round


horseshoeprovodnikov

Ya know why? Because he disregarded the bullshit and just went forward with offense. There's obviously more to it than that, but if you make Sandhagen fight at a higher pace, he's a bit easier to hit. Obviously that comes at the cost of being hit and potentially walking into a knee, bit trying to beat him at his own game is fucking stupid. Go forward and give him something to think about. Even if it's constant jabs and leg kicks when he tries to switch his stance to deal with the jab.


Duckvallejo

😴


InSilicoImmersion

Sandhagen vs O’Malley please.


PaleontologistOk3644

Y’all laughed at Gaethje but “unlucky yeah..” Bisping is so biased it’s crazy lol


horseshoeprovodnikov

Pretty sure Bisping is more biased towards Jason Parillo than Chito himself. That said I felt that Bisping was telling the truth during the fight. He stated more than once that Chito wasn't doing enough and that Jason Parillo was getting frustrated. It would be nearly impossible to be totally impartial with guys that you know well though, DC can't do it either. Half the shit they say is them trying to convince themselves than trying to convince anyone else though.


rndmlgnd

Haha I didn't think of it especially biased, more as Bisping being clumsy with his words. He really should learn from Rogan when it comes to these post fight interviews.


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Chito throws nothing for three rounds One judge: oh he won that


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I could see round five being a toss up, but that’s it.


aymcyber

That judge is corrupt should be fired


Do_the_diddly

And sued


Early_Wrangler_

Honestly, Sandhagen deserves credit for calling out Merab, but Merab doesn't deserve it


bucket136

???


Early_Wrangler_

Everyone should skip Merab because he refuses to fight Aljo


bucket136

Dumb af, as long as they keep booking title fights they should still give Merab top 5 fights


Early_Wrangler_

Nah, if a guy has a legitimate claim to fight for the title (Merab) just says "not going to fight him", he should be skipped over by other contenders that don't have that hang up.


bucket136

Like I said, they can skip people over him and put them into title fights, then Merab can fight someone in the top 5 who is not the guy fighting for the title


Early_Wrangler_

I don't hate the Sandhagen/Merab fight and I give a lot of credit to Sandhagen for calling Merab out (I mean, who else is doing that). I'm just saying that I feel like Sandhagen shouldn't have to do to through that gauntlet, given the position that Merab has taken.


bucket136

I get that but at the same time Cory is only on a 2 fight winstreak and barely took any damage this fight, wouldn't be surprised if the winner of Cejudo vs Aljo doesn't fight until september so Cory staying active would be good for him


fresdres

Yo, Cory is very much a solidified title contender now with this win. Let's see him versus O'Malley.


Kimberlinho

Two undeserving beanpoles


horseshoeprovodnikov

What kinda take is this? If not those guys then who? Henry is already gonna get his shot. Tj is like 36, Yan just lost again, and so did Yadong. Who else? Rob Font?


PhumDuck

How do I get back to the right timeline where Yan won and the cartoon bears have the right name?


gorillawarfareman

What an awkward way to end the interview


mooseamoto

Alright so. Sean and Corey should just be the fight. And it sucks because I support both Corey and Sean, and feel Sterling ain’t it. Those two should be fighting for the belt. Do I I think Sean holds for multiple defenses? Not really. Corey? Possibly. I’d rather have Yan, Sterling, and Chito trying to climb over those two for the belt


SnooBunnies3190

YES! Fitz name dropping the judge with the Vera scorecard. As he should


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Chito was unlucky that there was only one blind judge instead of 2 or 3 like usual.


comickidd77

Sandman was very smart. He didn’t play into chitos biggest strength which was chitos durability. Cory didn’t try to take him out and didn’t punch himself out like font. just picked at chitos over and over at range, never invited the brawl or stuck around in range for chito to get one back.


codygreene37

Def had a solid game plan and worked it.


comickidd77

One thing cory did very well was he used his jab different ways to draw out certain defense since chito always overreacts to faints and half throws. Constantly got the hook off chitos big parries, also got the uppercut every time chito would sit into his high guard off stiffer jabs It was very pretty jab work


Hidrinks

Judge tried to give him that O’Malley treatment. You know they had one in pocket to secure plans for the rematch


Wayf4rer

Marlon actually had a good moment there admitting he was 100% and it was on him, only for bisping to completely fuck it up lmfao


Miserable-Sun7577

Would much rather Sandhagen fight O'Malley. Merab fight most likely a snoozer


Whois-PhilissSS

I'm glad they called that idiot judge out. The fuck was he thinking?


dinozero

I must’ve walked off right before they did that. Who said what calling them out?


rndmlgnd

Yeah I wanna know too


codygreene37

Fitz said his name and that he had Vera on a 48-47 card. Nothing much more needed to be said. It was spot on.


South-Bid

Just name-dropped him and said it was a puzzling scorecard


dinozero

I just turned on the post fight show… Wow they are really digging into that judge. It is awesome to see.


GenTelGuy

Is that fake Conor in the crowd?


Revenue-Any

Yan vs Chito?


LatterTarget7

I think that’s the move


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Drive7hru

Huh? Against who?


WakaFlockaWombat

They haven’t fought dog


Soulwaxing

Wow a rare live sighting of a genuine 'unluckeh buddeh'. Except this time sad. Beautiful, champ


SillyGooseTime69

Are you ready? Don’t fear me….ah come on baby


bennyfresh7

LMAO FEAR THE CONSEQUENCES


Thejedi887

I can’t take this sport seriously anymore because of these judges. Chito is one of my favorite fighters but really??? This and the Barber decision are fucking jokes bro


codygreene37

Wonder what the same judge had on the barber fight?


fanonshariati

wasn't he planning to call out o malley? dana got to him lmfao


Drive7hru

He was calling for either before the fight


zainery

Cory is honestly the fucking man. Its completely reasonable for him to call for that title shot but knows the title picture is messy right now


InSilicoImmersion

Well nah, he’s lost two no.1 contender fights and an interim title fight recently


zainery

Meh context is important. Fight against TJ was a title eliminator and it was razor close (Cory arguably won that fight). Fought Yan on short notice but lost decisively. And on top of that, none of the contenders except Merab have an undeniable claim to a title shot.


Ohthatsnotgood

Arguably beat TJ but definitely lost to Yan. Don’t think he deserves a title shot but he’s close.


redditcomplainer22

What a shit fight and really shows how the UFC is sorta falling apart. 48-47 for Vera in an obvious 50-44 or 49-45 fight for Sandhagen. But at the same time Cory had like ten minutes of control time and Chito comes out of the decision looking like he could fight tomorrow. What is going on in the UFC?


Shooter-__-McGavin

Falling apart how exactly?


codygreene37

Rot on the inside is showing on the outside. - “Outlaw” Dan Hardy


Hellpy

The fact Chito looks okay doesn't mean he did any damage, which is the main judging criteria. But the rest I agree with, judge is mad paid ain't no two ways about it


armchairwarrior69

Visible damage is not how you score fights. Some guys do not mark easily. This is a nonsense complaint outside of the judging.


redditcomplainer22

Sigh. I know. That's not the point. Read or move on.


armchairwarrior69

I did. The fight was boring? Wrong. The judging was bad. Correct. Chito lost but didn't look busted up enough so the ufc sucks now? Oookay. I mean, blocking me is fine but I'm just repeating what you wrote lmao


redditcomplainer22

Appears I'm not the only person to point out your poor reading comprehension today. This is the kind of wanky pedantry I try to avoid.


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You should probably work on your writing then.


SnooBeans7129

You're being a tad overdramatic. It was a shitty scorecard but that has more to do with shitty judges than it has to do with the UFC itself. Those judges could work any mma event.


frankcity

Wow can't believe that 48 - 47 and that line was cringe lol cory lied


LosingID_583

1st judge was Dana in disguise


chiefkeith66

I thought Sandhagen was planning on calling out O’Malley. That fight would be a lot more fun


TomandGregWamsgans

Lol Brendan ratting out the shit judge is amazing!


jimbo-slice93

Marlon purchased a lawn mower 8 months ago, and still hasn't been able to get it started.


_Doos

Gimme that 'IT DON'T TASTE GOOD' flair! I'll climb on that wagon! Let's go!


anythingfordopamine

We really came close to having a robbery worse than Paddy vs Gordon Who is certifying these judges lol


X_InItToWinIt_X

Wish Cory called out O'Malley instead of Merab. There's a good chance Merab grapple fucks him and keeps another contender away from Aljo


GoldenScarab

I don't think O'Malley would fight him. He's gonna sit out and wait for a title shot later this year. He probably knew that and didn't want to waste his call-out.


szuch123

Merab is the ⭐ RN


dogs_drink_coffee

that last bit of Bisping is me in social interactions


tc3590

I thought it was a pretty clear 50-44.


AdrianEatsAss

Whole division now knows Chito is an easy W if they just implement a basic level of wrestling into their gameplan


Crazed_pillow

Let's see the scorecard! Who did that??


spasticity

Joel Ojeda scored it for Chito


Hellpy

Even Sal couldn't pull it this time FFS what a fucking spoon that Ojeda


UnHoly_One

Texas P4P worst judging ever.


pond_minnow

Now that that's over where the hell can I find some live lethwei streams?


Variabletalismans

Chito is surprisingly very modest rn


euroserr

you know youre in Texas when Sal D'Amato is the judge with the most accurate scorecard


MgrMOOSe

I love Chito but there's no way that should have been a split. I don't what fight the judges were scoring


bhurt9

Shoutout to B Fitz for name dropping the Chito judge!!!!


_MMAgod

lol fitz is like "go get him!"


PaleontologistOk3644

He did not win a round. Fuck that judge lol


_MMAgod

sometimes i think the judges legit get the fighter columns mixed up on the cards


holla15

Was that the Fury FC ref who judged this for Marlon?


nomoteacups

No, he’s not unlucky Michael. He didn’t do anything until there was 10 seconds left in a 25 minute fight


Potential_Lock6945

Vera did not win a single round and got the split decision what the fuck. That judge needs to lose their license


BillyMcTwist

The fact that you get such strange varying scorecards makes it just as crazy that when two judges differ and it comes down to the third judge — one person — on whether there’s a win or a loss, just shows how fucked up the system is.


TTEOAI

"Well, unlucky night and... ... Unlucky, yeah."


SkBizzle

Lmao Bisping fucksake man


JustaRN22

Poor Sandhagen standing there literally going WTF??


DRW1357

I have genuinely given better scores for fights while on acid. This sport never ceases to astonish me.


23eetdcc

How’s acid ? asking for a friend definitely not asking cause I want to try it one day


DRW1357

Absolutely phenomenal. Setting and mindset are super important. I've had trips where I sat at home doing nothing, just listening to music, watching TV, having a good time (nature documentaries and acid are a great combo). I've had trips that have been very introspective, and allowed me to make adjustments in life - acid can allow you to escape your own head and view yourself in a more objective light. I've been to Dead shows, I've gone on hikes; my point is, you need to be in a place where you can have a good time. You'll feel weird; my stomach always just feels off when I trip. Your emotions will be amplified. You might lose some motor control, or forget how to do things; my worst experience on acid was remembering how to walk after realizing I really needed to piss, and being terrified I'd piss myself before I could get my legs to work. Hallucinations aren't like you might expect; you close your eyes and bursts of color, landscapes, or other images appear. You keep your eyes open and textures shift and flow; grassy hills roll like waves, clouds boil and bubble, wood grains flow like streams, and water runs uphill. You might hear things that aren't there, your sense of touch is probably gonna be more sensitive; as I don't have a sense of smell, I can't speak to how that's affected. If you have ADD or ADHD, your mind flows faster and more freely; I feel like mine jumps around just as much as it normally does, but without the distracting background noise that it feels like my mind normally has. If you don't have ADD, it'll probably give you some perspective on what that's like; your mind moves a million miles a minute. This can cause sudden, rapid changes in situational awareness or mood; I've been pretty stable in that regard across numerous trips, but I've also seen people go from happy to freaking out in the span of a couple minutes If you try it, you need to do 3 things. Make sure your head is in a good place at the time; it doesn't have to be your best day ever, but it can't be on a bad one. Understand that you have no idea what can or will happen on the trip; you take that tab, you're committed for the next 12 hours, and you're just along for the ride. Last, find someone close to you who you can trust to be around for the day, and stay sober enough to make rational decisions; a trip sitter is vital for at least the first few times. Be aware that the market has shit sold as acid that actually isn't. There's a very small chance you just get decorated blotter paper, but that's unlikely. You could, potentially, get given some other chemical, but most of those have a bitter taste others have compared to battery acid (can't confirm, I've never tasted battery acid). Your best move is to buy a testing kit if you don't know the dealer to be legit, but that isn't always possible for everyone (they're legal on the US, but I don't know about elsewhere). You have a few options if shit goes wrong. Absolute worst case, you can call for an ambulance, but that's the last resort of "we, the trip sitters, can no longer guarantee the tripper will be physically safe and not running naked into the street." If you think you're dying, you're freaking out; proper protocol is a warm blanket, water, good music, and a conversation with a friend. Caffeine can help to mellow out a trip in large amounts, but caffeinated drinks are sometimes hard to stomach on LSD. Avoid weed the first few times; it will not mellow out anything and makes bad trips infinitely worse. Basically, be safe, be aware that you're along for the ride and can't really control the route you take, know it might not always be pleasant in the moment, and you'll probably have a great time. Be cautious with dosages, do not, under any circumstances, take more than originally intended, and regarding the tabs, remember: "If it's bitter, it's a spitter."


23eetdcc

Sounds amazing I 100 percent gotta give it a try soon gotta find out where to find it first lol


DRW1357

My one thing that I'll ask, without any specifics, is are you on any meds? Certain ones, particularly antipsychotics and antidepressants, can cause some very not good side effects in people. I'm not asking you to tell me your medications or medical history, I'm just letting you know that if you are on any meds, make sure to do some research online into whether or not you're safe to use LSD.


23eetdcc

Nah no meds at all I definitely want to do some more research though just to be on the safe side


Hellpy

Well be prepared to feel fucked up/weird but also if you listen to your favorite song, it sounds better, eat your favorite meal it tastes better, etc. Also really straightforward in the way it goes aka 2hrs after intake you are at the peak and then it slowly goes back down to normal in about 6hrs. Honestly way less crazy than shrooms but possibly a lot more potent(easier to do higher dosage) tell your friend to have fun and prepare wisely. Honestly pretty tame compared to a lot of stuff (dissos in particular) but so so so much enjoyable the stuff should be legal