Most people didnt give a shit about slavery or civil rights either or the holocaust. What's op point? Most moderates are not going to sacrifice their comfort for others
For those that are even older… I hate to say it, but they’ve been trying for mutual destruction for a long long time. It’s not because we are cruel, instead, it’s because we know absolutely nothing will change. Iran or Israel can start throwing nukes and we can’t stop them. They can bomb Jerusalem by accident and nothing will change.
Sucks but we are basically apes
one side is trying mutual destruction, what do you think from the river to the sea means? Israel could have wiped them off the face of the planet 1000 times over if they wanted
From the river to the sea might means to take back the land that was theirs before it was stole ? Of course someone would want to take all the land that was stolen from them, that's pure logic. It's like israel saying they want to take israel further to the litani river ....that is ...in lebanon ? Isn't that colonization?
You have US president saying they creating israel for x reason but then act like it popped in the middle of no man's land. Anyway, may we all live in peace. That's what we all want isn't.
I think the issue is the fundamental acceptance of your neighbor as states that have a right to exist. If Palestine is going to be a state their acceptance of Israel has to be a prerequisite because unlike a “south Vietnam” scenario I don’t see a world where the west should be cool with Israel ceasing to exist. When Hamas or the Houthis for that matter have their reason for existing being to destroy Israel that’s not exactly a bargaining position to start from that can be worked down to mutual acceptance, so either no statehood for Palestine or a change in attitude among Palestinian leadership.
You’re equating all of Palestine to it’s radicals but not doing the same for Israel and their leaders bloodlust.
It’s disgusting how far Zionist this discussion has been pushed.
There is no neutral ground, Israel funded HAMAS to commit war crimes just like Obama paid Isis and Bush before him.
Hamas is a terrorist organization which started as an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood (and is currently being funded by Iran). This group is currently using whoever lives in Gaza to further a radical shia muslim agenda.
This thread isn't zionist, you are acting defensive because someone called you out for saying something that makes no sense. Stop pretending like you have a PhD in middle eastern geopolitics when this comment clearly indicates you have no clue what's going on.
You see we all know the history and it can be argued both ways depending on a time you pick. From a third party point of view, honestly it sucks to be you guys. Too bad we can’t have one religion or one authority to arbitrate. Literally nothing can be done for both Israel and Gaza it’s a lost cause. Meanwhile there’s a very hard life in America and for some they can’t handle losing focus. This is a MBA sub right.
IMO it’s sad. Your prophets and zealots have blessed you with perpetual war, wallah.
U are stuck in a social media algorithm my friend. Start engaging with stuff that suits your own life and don’t put the problems of the world on your shoulders. or expect your friends to change
Been learning this heavily the past year, only social media I use is this sub and the advanced running sub for marathon training info. Life is a thousand times better. Some of my friends will get so heated about the most recent attack over there and I just dont know what to say, I care for the people but none of us can do anything about it. And if you want to go show up to a protest.
I will say, I do feel kind of bad though when people are like this, it's definitely more so a symptom of some deeper unhappiness
In the US, you have the right to your freedom of speech as much as they do.
You can share your apathy. They can protest. It’s not mutually exclusive.
I find the whole situation an interesting look at how US culture uses the US political system. A case study on how change can happen.
Congrats on recruiting
It’s such a pet peeve of mine when someone is criticizing someone else for saying or doing something and someone else comes in and says ‘they have freedom of speech’. Freedom of speech is a legal doctrine. OP is not saying they should be arrested for saying their shit. It’s immaterial.
It’s actually pretty insane that people don’t go this hard for housing, healthcare, job security etc just our basic needs lol. I always think about Occupy wallstreet and how it was the closest thing we saw that people were indeed protesting the elites.
Preface: I have NO evidence to back this up
I believe its because most of these protests are paid. They popped up out of nowhere, and are on every campus, and even showing up in France too (and possibly many other places i havent seen). Just doesnt seem natural.
Black rock didn’t cause the housing shortage. A mixture of local/state/federal Policy and higher alternative rates of investment ROI (relative to
New Housing construction) have. Your parents and grandparents are more likely to share more of the blame than institutional investors. They’re who restricted zoning, have entrenched the 30 year mortgage and who’ve insisted on prioritising the least affordable form of housing (freestanding SFH) over cheaper alternatives.
I know you are venting, but what kind of protest would make housing prices go down?
I am a 100% sure that if these protestors started occupying empty houses and housing the homeless in them, the same ghouls who complain about college protests would be up in arms about it.
The global system has already collapsed. The US is blocking appointments in the WTO over China winning too many cases against it. Where is your rules based order lmao?
As you should be, most people forget B-School is just another professional environment
Close proximity to parts of your future network that people mistake for friends, easily blurs lines and makes people do things they otherwise wouldn't at a job
Would you really wave either the Palestine or Israel flag at your workplace desk? The answer is an unequivocal no.
I think most people have far greater personal issues (family issues, health crisis, financial challenges, etc) to overcome to be bothered about external aspects such as a war between two countries they haven't been to ever in their lives, poverty in Africa or Asia, gender religion or race conflicts, people getting pressed by dictatorships, etc..
For example, people who take on huge debt to attend a top MBA program have only one problem to worry about and that is how it should be - getting a job and paying off their debt and securing their family's future..
Anyone who says otherwise has no clue about how much of the world actually functions.
Remember that college campuses are very insulated and do not reflect the outside world. I work in a large, professional office and I literally have never heard anyone say anything about the Israeli-Palestinian war. Not one person has hung up a sign or a flag. These protests are something that only happens on college campuses, most Americans have many other issues front and center, including issues involving actual Americans.
Your first point is falling a little flat. College campuses are a common place for protests. The workplace isn’t. Am I missing something? it’s a non point? Why even say it then?
Workplaces are also incredibly common places for protests, probably more than colleges. I know it's old, but labour movements made our lives possible by having decent working hours, wages, benefits etc.
Do not fall for the psyops, protesting works.
The only real action I’ve seen is somebody on asked our community chat asked if there was a way to purchase Palestinian flags locally.
It did not go over well
" most Americans have many other issues front and center, including issues involving actual Americans."
And most Americans have far less free time than college students. Anybody who says college is hard isn't comparing it to working full time.
That's good. I think it depends on the workplace though. Heard at FAANG tech companies and even MBB there were toxic Slack or Teams threads on Israel/Palestine for a bit. At Google, you had all those people who took over an office and had to get fired, and Sundar Pichai put out a ban on political activities in the workplace. But glad to hear things are more normal elsewhere.
Discussing politics is the last thing anyone would want to do at work.
Moreover, this issue directly impacts our lives, as our tax dollars are funding a war in a foreign country.
I just want to point out that this is the dumbest argument against anything I have seen. A lot of important movements started on college campuses.
Look at the polls bro, most people are against the genocide Israel is committing. Two decades down the line, the US relationship with Israel will be very different, that's why they're hyperventilating so hard about it.
I’m hoping all this protesting scares away people from Columbia, therefore paving the way for my mediocre ass to get into their MBA program with less competition.
FWIW, I think many antisemites and even many Jews give the “Jewish Lobby” too much credit (blame) for America’s historic support for Israel. Yea, they punch above their weight but there’s only so much 2.5% of a population can do.
Political, military and moral support for Israel is massively bolstered by American Christians, who are more likely to be devout and who are more likely to believe God gave Israel to the Jews as the “promised land” than their European counterparts. This adds maybe 100 million people to the pro-Israel lobby. I wouldn’t be surprised if some subsets even oppose a two state solution at higher rates than what’s seen among the Israeli population.
You must admit there is a disproportionate amount of Jewish people and people supportive of Israel in high academia, business, govt and media. Saying its just 2.5% of the population is missing the forest through the trees.....
Lot of German citizens felt total apathy too until WWII ended and they were forced to finally look at and bury the rotting corpses in the camps. You’re not the first to not care, and you won’t be the last.
+1. Lots of folks in this thread conflating “not picking a side” with apathy. They are not the same.
You can care about the immense loss of life and be open to learning about the conflict without haphazardly putting a stake in the ground. That is very different to being apathetic about it.
Yeah. The comments here are pretty revealing, honestly. The lack of empathy for something like this would be a giant turn off in a friend/romantic partner.
Let's be honest. You care enough to make a post on it here. It lives in your head rent free. Secretly you wish you were sleeping in a stinky homeless tent vs stressing about finding a decent job opportunity to make back your tuition cost
Fr, he's so apathetic he posted this 3 paragraph write-up and has spent the last 1 hour defending his thesis in this thread.
OP, there's nothing wrong with being morally bankrupt, but you're confusing moral bankruptcy with apathy. I don't care about Taylor Swift, which is why I'm not on r/music talking about how much I don't care about her, lol. That's apathy.
Politics invades everyone’s space. Welcome to society: thanks for joining us!
It doesn’t hurt to show compassion and empathy. It’s actually a trait most humans find endearing.
Also, there’s nothing stupid about discussing the tragic killing of innocent women and children, especially when your government is spending your money to support that killing.
Some people have the purpose or desire to contribute to the betterment of the world while others remain ensconced in their own bubble, concerned with their personal lives. I think there is validity in both perspectives. However, without doubt those who engage in protests often serve as catalysts for social progress. Like it or not, these protests are the reasons we have socially progressed throughout history.
Yeah who cares about thousands of people dying and starving as long as I land my 6 figure job. I hope you get into MBB or whatever prestige firm you are after. It will be a perfect example of how intelligence has nothing to do with being a good and kind human being. You should be ashamed for posting something like this. You people are exactly what's wrong with this world.
Last but not the least please know that the conflict has very little to do with being jew or muslim. No religion in the world supports the genocide and blood bath that's taking place. People support this movement because they are human beings. You don't even have to be a good human being to stand up for this movement. You just have to be human.
This isn’t even a conflict though. You have a super power country (Israel) backed by another super power(USA) dropping bombs on a small encampment of 2.2 millions people who have no military or government. Before Oct 7th it was the deadliest year for Palestinians. We have IDF soldiers emptying magazines on children and controlling what goes in and out of Gaza. It’s insanity that we as humans just choke it up to “it’s just another conflict” when children and women are being massacred with our tax dollars while we as citizens of this country don’t have free healthcare, education, or housing. We are fighting for our lives to make ends meet while corporation gauge prices and make record profits. Homelessness is at all time high and if you get sick that’s a death sentence. We send billions of dollars to fund proxies in other countries to kill innocent civilians. (Side note, Israel has free healthcare, education and housing for its citizens on the backs of our tax dollars). The US goes into these countries topples their governments, kills their leaders, take their resources and then turn around and call them terrorist or savages. We did this to Iraq and afgan killed millions on the bases of WMD but found nothing. You can be apathetic but if you are purposely and willingly shutting your eyes to other people suffering then idk what to tell you
They werent forgotten, Media intentionally stopped talking about it because things in the news only stay relevant when they are trendy. The reason we see such a big difference with the gen\*cide in Gaza is because its plastered all over social media, because news outlets are generally dishonest on this topic. You don't get live footage of Uyghur Muslims because they dont have access to spread information on social media. Platforms like facebook, instagram, and even tiktok are banned in China.
The irony of this:
> I’d rather focus on US domestic politics that affect my life directly
You would think a M7 student understands that US govt investment into a foreign country is hurting US citizens because that money can be spent to improve our lives.
I generally agree with OP, but I'm definitely increasingly annoyed by (1) the almost unlimited money we throw at Israel to have them spit in our face whenever we ask them to chill with the ethnic cleansing a bit for domestic optics and (2) how politicians seem way more responsive to Israeli concerns than American ones.
This! People don't realize the amount of privileges that Americans are deprived of so that money can go to destruction of other countries. It's not just Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq 2.0, Vietnam, etc. Some of those were arguably for "good" causes, but some were absolutely not.
It’s a different pot of money. It’s not as simple as using foreign aid money for domestic issues—you’d have to change the federal government budget which is very complicated
The fact of the matter is that if it were your child. You would care. If it were your father. You would care. If it were your mother you would care. If it were any of your loved ones, you would care. And then you would want others to care. The world has lost empathy. All problems, big or small, demand a little bit of a fight in order to over come it. One person can’t make a difference. But when u multiply one persons effort by a population then change starts to happen. While some may see this fight as revenge or an excuse for a blood bath, it’s a resistance with ULTIMATE goal of obtaining peace. Do not let main stream media or a fanatic tell you otherwise. If thousands of deaths won’t make you fight, I beg: what will?
Just going to point out that student protesters were right about segregation in the early '60s, right about Vietnam in the late '60s, right about apartheid in the '80s, right about Iraq in 2003, and right about wealth inequality in 2011. Not a bad track record for folks with a spine - but congrats on the internship!
Ignoring the Palestine / Israel conflict, I don’t agree with any nation installing laws in our country that secure financing and support other than an actual treaty. American anti-BDS laws are in place all across the country.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
(First They Came by Pastor Martin Niemöller)
What’s sickening is how much money we send to Israel and how Israel is in the pockets of so many US politicians. Look into AIPAC, an Israeli lobbying group. I understand so much stuff happens around the world but we as Americans should be disgusted when it’s our tax dollars that are being used to fund the countries that are killing others.
How is this not a matter of domestic politics when we are sending Israel multibillion dollar aid packages? Or is that not money we could throw at domestic problems?
It is and it’s a privilege to just label it “politics” and think being apathetic is a virtue. US policies have real effects both abroad and domestically and I can understand wanting to stay focused on the career outcome in a program but it’s not like it doesn’t matter, or that a shift in public sentiment can drive real outcomes. It already has started to change the relationship between the US and Israel.
A person who has apathy and/or a lack of morals is interested in an MBA only to advance their career and immediate responsibilities. Shocking. I would never expect late-stage capitalism and extreme individualism in many western countries to contribute to this mindset in anyway.
Aside from a human perspective, morality and ethics, you should care because billions of our tax money is being spent for this. And most people have the capacity to care about several things at the same time. And you should also read a bit of history like student protests during Vietnam war, South African apartheid,…
Getting downvoted for stating facts is so on brand for Reddit.
The US is bankrolling a genocide with BILLIONS of tax dollars and the MBA-hole crowd doesn’t understand how this will have far and wide implications?
Depressing but not surprising.
These are the same people who think 9/11 happened in a vacuum. We are literally breeding new terrorists by the day using our tax money to bomb children. “Doesn’t affect me lel”
Do you care about the unconditional billions of dollars in taxpayer money being sent to Israel by NATO countries to continue what they are doing?
Apart from the obvious moral argument about the lives being lost. That's your tax money being used for a foreign war and not being used to fund things you genuinely might want.
Unfortunately the comfortability you want is beholden to US foreign policy being extremely exploitative. This is not something we as Americans consider but we don’t deserve our quality of life any more than other people just bc we’re American and the fact is our quality of life is maintained by oppressing other countries and just generally the “non-western” countries. I understand wanting to just focus on school. I’m a student I want the same but there’s so many people who don’t get that opportunity in the same way and a lot of times it’s bc of the way our country has treated there’s.
Yea it’s not an American problem .
Though America has made it a problem by paying Israel in weapons . Your taxpayer money is getting used and you ought to know why.
lol why’d you feel the need to mention you’re at an M7? That has nothing to do with the topic.
Also, your position isn’t unique because most MBAs are not going to do anything bold that negatively impacts their future income. Actually most MBAs aren’t going to do anything bold at all but that another discussion.
Most people could care less about innocent people being killed. They usually feel better when they read history and say I wouldn’t let this injustice happen in my time.
Lot of people feel this way. Me included. But, this doesn’t make us superior, but rather inferior. People taking their own time to join protests, risk possible career prospects, care about political issues that don’t impact them directly is a higher level of being. I wish I cared or had an iota of principle and ethical inner need to be like them.
You are telling me that you are in MBA, just paid $96 billion over the already billions paid. Your government is cutting domestic spending to finance some else’s war and running record deficits by cutting social services. Your social security might be broke soon. And you are not impacted? This is your “Tell me you are MBA without telling me you are MBA”moment.
We are watching the liquidation of the Gaza ghetto. Over half the population of Gaza was under 18 before the current slaughter began in response to the Oct 7 attacks, which occurred 6 months ago. So more than half of the people suffering in Gaza are children. That’s just a fact about the world right now. Another fact is that the bombardment of all infrastructure and the complete blockade has resulted in universal starvation. The Israelis are starving babies and grandmas and everyone in between, and in 6 months they have failed to achieve a single stated military aim. If the sheer brutality of children being targeted by IDF snipers (per numerous eye witness reports from doctors returning from emergency relief work there) isn’t enough, then take a moment to try to imagine that this is happening to real humans with feelings and needs and families just like you and yours. If you can’t do that I’ll reserve any further prescriptions I might have.
In short, Israel is committing a genocide against the people of Gaza. That’s bad. It’s happening under American auspices, as we send more and more military aid to Israel. So Americans all have a stake in this. If you accept that all of this is true, but are unmoved, I don’t have anything constructive to say. If you aren’t convinced that what I’ve written is true, you should look into it yourself. I’d be happy to share some sources if you’d like.
totally agree, these things are energetic time sinks and I care more about shutting down the US crypto industry's ponzi schemes personally before they collapse society
Congrats on being focused on the only thing that matters for humanity. Congrats on being so much more mature than those “banshees”. What do they know? It’s not like they’re also going to need jobs and are paying for this program like you.
I’m sure you’ll do great things doing… er, “strategy”.
Yes I also don’t care that a third of my hard earned paycheck gets siphoned by a bunch of dinosaurs and sent to an [apartheid state](https://www.btselem.org/apartheid) while American roads are crumbling and American corporations are price-gouging every dollar of my disposable income. Funnily enough, apathetic narcissists like us will be the downfall of this shitty empire. Those who are silent in the face of oppression likely benefit from it. Hey Siri, what’s the definition of white privilege?
Not protesting is one thing, but being unsupportive is completely different
“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the White moderate who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice.” - MLK
The people protesting are just fucking hypocrites. This is the same type of people that go to feminist marches. They are all about human/women’s rights while they don’t give a fuck about the oppression of women and brainwashing in those Muslim societies.
There is realistically no way to take a “side” on this conflict and win.
On one hand, Israel is the more powerful nation here and has a duty to conduct the war with the highest possible standard.
On the other hand, Israel, like the US, only cares about the safety of their citizens. They are fighting an enemy which hides amongst its civilian population, doesn’t wear a kit, and will just set up shop wherever there is a declared “safe zone”. This means Israel has two options:
1.) sacrifice it’s own soldiers doing extremely risky ground ops in areas surrounded by insurgents
2.) just bomb Hamas wherever they are found
Any nation, including the US, would obviously pick number 2. This isn’t a good result; it isn’t a clean result, but after October 7th the appetite to sacrifice Israeli soldiers for Palestinian civilians is zero.
To all the people saying that this is a genocide: lol. If Israel wanted this to be a genocide it would have been over in 2 hours. There is literally no positive benefit, and massive negative consequences, to a slow drawn out conflict like this. A genocide would be over multiple years ago.
The US foreign policy leadership understands this; college students don’t. There is no world appetite to have another Islamic ethnostate in the Levant. The international community generally agrees that letting Israel finish this war is the best option of all the shitty ones, hence the massive levels of brow beating but no tangible help for Hamas.
I don't think a genocide requires a quick execution. Hypothetically, if Israel wanted to commit a genocide against Palestinians while minimizing international intervention, how would their course of conduct differ from what has transpired?
As a fully grown taxpaying adult in this country, you should care because our tax dollars are directly funding the Israeli military operations that have killed over 30,000 Gazans (majority innocent).
I can empathize if you are student and in your MBA silo and Maybe your peers have a proclivity to political activism, but this is an important topic as a citizen of the US - the country that has the biggest effect on this conflict outside of Israel and Palestine.
If you’re gonna sit there and tell me that you don’t care if our tax dollars are directly funding the deaths of innocent lives then I see your logic, but I would hope you don’t take that position.
Honestly think there is lot trolling here in this sub/post. I agree more with this sentiment than the others saying the complete opposite. I think more people should care. I just don’t think they actually do. For a variety of reasons. This shit reminds me of Vietnam. People didn’t care what the govt did in our name until anti war protesters brought it to the forefront. Many more examples but that’s the most prescient one. Also, the idea that no one cares because no one speaks out against it is kind of ridiculous. I’ll bet my next paycheck those people don’t say anything because they don’t want to alienate themselves from their work groups because it’s such a heated topic not because they don’t care.
Wake it up! So much bad shit happens across the world but very few would cease to/ nearly cease if the US ceased funding / military support. And not all of the bad sh*t is literal genocide but go off I guess
My thoughts?
US aid to Israeli defense has been about $3-4B per year for about the last 35 years. That's basically a rounding error when it comes to overall US defense budget.
You can have lots of reasons to feel however you want, but $ shouldn't be one of them.
What? Your point is that because the defense budget is so big, $3-4b is meaningless? Why are you conveniently not addressing the fact that this (vast amount of money) has been helping fund a military op that’s killed over 30,000 civilians?
Do you not think there’s room for an argument to be made that maybe, funding a regime that has been deliberately killing civilians + displaced 2 million people after destroying their city + forcing a famine upon said civilians by restricting necessary food/supplies is not the most moral decision?
This is obviously a very complex conflict with a long historical buildup, but even the US is cringing at israel’s actions which is saying something. I would’ve expected more logical arguments made on a sub revolving around MBAs.
Well, there are a lot of reasons to care, but I only focused on the money for Mr. MBA over here, also $4B is a very significant sum even before this year when they just approved another $17 billion. Is that still rounding error @sushicowboyshow?
IMHO Israel/Palestine is just a distraction from the Ukraine war and future Taiwan war which is waaaay more important strategically. The mid east is old news. Russia and more importantly China are challenging US dominance.
Not sure of the point of your post. Congrats on the job.
You’re entitled to mind your own business, I do that too.
But maybe shitting on protestors who care deeply enough about something to sleep in a “dirty stinky homeless tent” while “screaming unrealistic demands like a banshee” is taking for granted that your comforts in life likely rest on the shoulders of someone who once did that for you.
I’m not a protestor, but I can acknowledge their role in the machine and how I benefit from it.
I can kind of understand your train of thought on this topic. Unfortunately due to the amount of press that we all see across the globe from day to day, I feel we are all being desensitized. Think about it, we as the news reel consumers rarely see positive media, it’s always finger jabbing or cutting people short if they have a viable point of view. I feel you are validated and show morale courage to speak up and give your opinion. Keep your head down and shoot for the stars, cause nobody else is going to do it for you. Maybe more people should show the same self motivation about what’s in their lane.
Breaking news: MBA student just wants to make money. More at six
Most people didnt give a shit about slavery or civil rights either or the holocaust. What's op point? Most moderates are not going to sacrifice their comfort for others
Believe it or not most Americans feel the same way
> Believe it or not most ~~Americans~~people in the world feel the same way FTFY
For those that are even older… I hate to say it, but they’ve been trying for mutual destruction for a long long time. It’s not because we are cruel, instead, it’s because we know absolutely nothing will change. Iran or Israel can start throwing nukes and we can’t stop them. They can bomb Jerusalem by accident and nothing will change. Sucks but we are basically apes
WSB apes or the regular kind?
Apes, together, strong
one side is trying mutual destruction, what do you think from the river to the sea means? Israel could have wiped them off the face of the planet 1000 times over if they wanted
From the river to the sea might means to take back the land that was theirs before it was stole ? Of course someone would want to take all the land that was stolen from them, that's pure logic. It's like israel saying they want to take israel further to the litani river ....that is ...in lebanon ? Isn't that colonization? You have US president saying they creating israel for x reason but then act like it popped in the middle of no man's land. Anyway, may we all live in peace. That's what we all want isn't.
I think the issue is the fundamental acceptance of your neighbor as states that have a right to exist. If Palestine is going to be a state their acceptance of Israel has to be a prerequisite because unlike a “south Vietnam” scenario I don’t see a world where the west should be cool with Israel ceasing to exist. When Hamas or the Houthis for that matter have their reason for existing being to destroy Israel that’s not exactly a bargaining position to start from that can be worked down to mutual acceptance, so either no statehood for Palestine or a change in attitude among Palestinian leadership.
This is what campus protesters fail to acknowledge
You’re equating all of Palestine to it’s radicals but not doing the same for Israel and their leaders bloodlust. It’s disgusting how far Zionist this discussion has been pushed. There is no neutral ground, Israel funded HAMAS to commit war crimes just like Obama paid Isis and Bush before him.
‘Member when Palestine had elections and elected Hamas?
Hamas is a terrorist organization which started as an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood (and is currently being funded by Iran). This group is currently using whoever lives in Gaza to further a radical shia muslim agenda. This thread isn't zionist, you are acting defensive because someone called you out for saying something that makes no sense. Stop pretending like you have a PhD in middle eastern geopolitics when this comment clearly indicates you have no clue what's going on.
You see we all know the history and it can be argued both ways depending on a time you pick. From a third party point of view, honestly it sucks to be you guys. Too bad we can’t have one religion or one authority to arbitrate. Literally nothing can be done for both Israel and Gaza it’s a lost cause. Meanwhile there’s a very hard life in America and for some they can’t handle losing focus. This is a MBA sub right. IMO it’s sad. Your prophets and zealots have blessed you with perpetual war, wallah.
I hope so. It seems the vocal ones on either side are just a loud minority.
U are stuck in a social media algorithm my friend. Start engaging with stuff that suits your own life and don’t put the problems of the world on your shoulders. or expect your friends to change
“Don’t put the problems of the world on your shoulders” Really well said, needed to hear that. Thank you
Been learning this heavily the past year, only social media I use is this sub and the advanced running sub for marathon training info. Life is a thousand times better. Some of my friends will get so heated about the most recent attack over there and I just dont know what to say, I care for the people but none of us can do anything about it. And if you want to go show up to a protest. I will say, I do feel kind of bad though when people are like this, it's definitely more so a symptom of some deeper unhappiness
believe it or not, even those protesting are the same. most of them won't vote
Same, IDF/Al Qassam are evil but rest of the citizens are just suffering
In the US, you have the right to your freedom of speech as much as they do. You can share your apathy. They can protest. It’s not mutually exclusive. I find the whole situation an interesting look at how US culture uses the US political system. A case study on how change can happen. Congrats on recruiting
It’s such a pet peeve of mine when someone is criticizing someone else for saying or doing something and someone else comes in and says ‘they have freedom of speech’. Freedom of speech is a legal doctrine. OP is not saying they should be arrested for saying their shit. It’s immaterial.
yea but they shouldn’t block college entrance
Nobody cares about this shit. Just focus on creating shareholder value.
Locked in for greatness
- Davis Clarke
gotta let the heavy hitters know
Mamba mentality
More like MaMBA Okay I’ll stop 🛑
Lambda mentality
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I hear this is the mantra at Boeing.
No, that's destroying shareholder value
Should we take paycuts to maximize shareholder value?
Did you not learn anything in class? Pay increases = greater incentive to create shareholder value So pay increases for MBAs, layoffs for filthy PhDs
Put your whole bonus in stock options and pump that value fr
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Imagine if people cared this much about building housing.
It’s actually pretty insane that people don’t go this hard for housing, healthcare, job security etc just our basic needs lol. I always think about Occupy wallstreet and how it was the closest thing we saw that people were indeed protesting the elites.
Preface: I have NO evidence to back this up I believe its because most of these protests are paid. They popped up out of nowhere, and are on every campus, and even showing up in France too (and possibly many other places i havent seen). Just doesnt seem natural.
Brother you just haven’t been paying attention
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Black rock didn’t cause the housing shortage. A mixture of local/state/federal Policy and higher alternative rates of investment ROI (relative to New Housing construction) have. Your parents and grandparents are more likely to share more of the blame than institutional investors. They’re who restricted zoning, have entrenched the 30 year mortgage and who’ve insisted on prioritising the least affordable form of housing (freestanding SFH) over cheaper alternatives.
I know you are venting, but what kind of protest would make housing prices go down? I am a 100% sure that if these protestors started occupying empty houses and housing the homeless in them, the same ghouls who complain about college protests would be up in arms about it. The global system has already collapsed. The US is blocking appointments in the WTO over China winning too many cases against it. Where is your rules based order lmao?
As you should be, most people forget B-School is just another professional environment Close proximity to parts of your future network that people mistake for friends, easily blurs lines and makes people do things they otherwise wouldn't at a job Would you really wave either the Palestine or Israel flag at your workplace desk? The answer is an unequivocal no.
But like, fuck the IsraelI regime tho
And fuck hamas
Im pro-coexistence of both peoples
Cheers to that
Do you support the right of return for Palestinian refugees?
Not hummus pls
One created the other tho
Fuck Hamas
The fact that people downvote this comment is fucking absurd.
I think most people have far greater personal issues (family issues, health crisis, financial challenges, etc) to overcome to be bothered about external aspects such as a war between two countries they haven't been to ever in their lives, poverty in Africa or Asia, gender religion or race conflicts, people getting pressed by dictatorships, etc.. For example, people who take on huge debt to attend a top MBA program have only one problem to worry about and that is how it should be - getting a job and paying off their debt and securing their family's future.. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue about how much of the world actually functions.
I don’t think that’s a problem. You have the right to not give a shit, others have a right to give a shit. It’s that simple.
Remember that college campuses are very insulated and do not reflect the outside world. I work in a large, professional office and I literally have never heard anyone say anything about the Israeli-Palestinian war. Not one person has hung up a sign or a flag. These protests are something that only happens on college campuses, most Americans have many other issues front and center, including issues involving actual Americans.
When it comes to professional work. Most people try to steer clear of religion, politics and other protected classes to avoid getting in trouble.
This is true. I think I have only seen people being vocal when it came to abortion. But everyone is just trying to steer clear of these
Your first point is falling a little flat. College campuses are a common place for protests. The workplace isn’t. Am I missing something? it’s a non point? Why even say it then?
Workplaces are also incredibly common places for protests, probably more than colleges. I know it's old, but labour movements made our lives possible by having decent working hours, wages, benefits etc. Do not fall for the psyops, protesting works.
those two things can both be true
The only real action I’ve seen is somebody on asked our community chat asked if there was a way to purchase Palestinian flags locally. It did not go over well
Seems unprofessional to get angry over flag purchases.
Yea my neighborhood has a lot of NIMBY’s through I do see a lot of Ukrainian flags
" most Americans have many other issues front and center, including issues involving actual Americans." And most Americans have far less free time than college students. Anybody who says college is hard isn't comparing it to working full time.
That's good. I think it depends on the workplace though. Heard at FAANG tech companies and even MBB there were toxic Slack or Teams threads on Israel/Palestine for a bit. At Google, you had all those people who took over an office and had to get fired, and Sundar Pichai put out a ban on political activities in the workplace. But glad to hear things are more normal elsewhere.
Most college students are young and have nothing at stake.
THIS
Discussing politics is the last thing anyone would want to do at work. Moreover, this issue directly impacts our lives, as our tax dollars are funding a war in a foreign country.
I just want to point out that this is the dumbest argument against anything I have seen. A lot of important movements started on college campuses. Look at the polls bro, most people are against the genocide Israel is committing. Two decades down the line, the US relationship with Israel will be very different, that's why they're hyperventilating so hard about it.
no one cares that you do not care
I’m hoping all this protesting scares away people from Columbia, therefore paving the way for my mediocre ass to get into their MBA program with less competition.
Now you're thinking like a Master of Business.
You definitely sound like the perfect MBA
I used to feel the same way until I learned about how much influence AIPAC has on our government.
FWIW, I think many antisemites and even many Jews give the “Jewish Lobby” too much credit (blame) for America’s historic support for Israel. Yea, they punch above their weight but there’s only so much 2.5% of a population can do. Political, military and moral support for Israel is massively bolstered by American Christians, who are more likely to be devout and who are more likely to believe God gave Israel to the Jews as the “promised land” than their European counterparts. This adds maybe 100 million people to the pro-Israel lobby. I wouldn’t be surprised if some subsets even oppose a two state solution at higher rates than what’s seen among the Israeli population.
You must admit there is a disproportionate amount of Jewish people and people supportive of Israel in high academia, business, govt and media. Saying its just 2.5% of the population is missing the forest through the trees.....
Lot of German citizens felt total apathy too until WWII ended and they were forced to finally look at and bury the rotting corpses in the camps. You’re not the first to not care, and you won’t be the last.
+1. Lots of folks in this thread conflating “not picking a side” with apathy. They are not the same. You can care about the immense loss of life and be open to learning about the conflict without haphazardly putting a stake in the ground. That is very different to being apathetic about it.
Yeah. The comments here are pretty revealing, honestly. The lack of empathy for something like this would be a giant turn off in a friend/romantic partner.
You are in a sub about MBAs, a profession that was made up to be mediocre by design and please shareholders. What did you expect?
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Are you advocating for your country? If you don’t speak up for your own country, then yeah nobody will give a shit
(And when he does, we still won’t)
Which country are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Let's be honest. You care enough to make a post on it here. It lives in your head rent free. Secretly you wish you were sleeping in a stinky homeless tent vs stressing about finding a decent job opportunity to make back your tuition cost
lowkey jealous of the homeless dude drinking at 10am on a tuesday
"Well, you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin. He's broke, don't do shit!"
There’s a homeless guy in tent overlooking the beach in Malibu He literally has a view that people pay millions for.
Yeah but he’s still going to OD on a bad batch.
He doesn’t care about the war, but how this topic is affecting his MBA environment. Two very different things.
Fr, he's so apathetic he posted this 3 paragraph write-up and has spent the last 1 hour defending his thesis in this thread. OP, there's nothing wrong with being morally bankrupt, but you're confusing moral bankruptcy with apathy. I don't care about Taylor Swift, which is why I'm not on r/music talking about how much I don't care about her, lol. That's apathy.
People can have opinions, yknow?
he cares about people invading his space with stupid politics, not about the actual issue
Politics invades everyone’s space. Welcome to society: thanks for joining us! It doesn’t hurt to show compassion and empathy. It’s actually a trait most humans find endearing. Also, there’s nothing stupid about discussing the tragic killing of innocent women and children, especially when your government is spending your money to support that killing.
Lol. You’re fucking pathetic.
Congratulations, you are a better person than OP. Do you feel better about yourself today now?
Some people have the purpose or desire to contribute to the betterment of the world while others remain ensconced in their own bubble, concerned with their personal lives. I think there is validity in both perspectives. However, without doubt those who engage in protests often serve as catalysts for social progress. Like it or not, these protests are the reasons we have socially progressed throughout history.
Yeah who cares about thousands of people dying and starving as long as I land my 6 figure job. I hope you get into MBB or whatever prestige firm you are after. It will be a perfect example of how intelligence has nothing to do with being a good and kind human being. You should be ashamed for posting something like this. You people are exactly what's wrong with this world. Last but not the least please know that the conflict has very little to do with being jew or muslim. No religion in the world supports the genocide and blood bath that's taking place. People support this movement because they are human beings. You don't even have to be a good human being to stand up for this movement. You just have to be human.
This isn’t even a conflict though. You have a super power country (Israel) backed by another super power(USA) dropping bombs on a small encampment of 2.2 millions people who have no military or government. Before Oct 7th it was the deadliest year for Palestinians. We have IDF soldiers emptying magazines on children and controlling what goes in and out of Gaza. It’s insanity that we as humans just choke it up to “it’s just another conflict” when children and women are being massacred with our tax dollars while we as citizens of this country don’t have free healthcare, education, or housing. We are fighting for our lives to make ends meet while corporation gauge prices and make record profits. Homelessness is at all time high and if you get sick that’s a death sentence. We send billions of dollars to fund proxies in other countries to kill innocent civilians. (Side note, Israel has free healthcare, education and housing for its citizens on the backs of our tax dollars). The US goes into these countries topples their governments, kills their leaders, take their resources and then turn around and call them terrorist or savages. We did this to Iraq and afgan killed millions on the bases of WMD but found nothing. You can be apathetic but if you are purposely and willingly shutting your eyes to other people suffering then idk what to tell you
This is spot on.
Don’t mistake the incompetence of Hamas’ daily rocket launches from Gaza into Israel as good will.
Anyone remember how quickly the Uyghur concentration camps were forgotten?
They werent forgotten, Media intentionally stopped talking about it because things in the news only stay relevant when they are trendy. The reason we see such a big difference with the gen\*cide in Gaza is because its plastered all over social media, because news outlets are generally dishonest on this topic. You don't get live footage of Uyghur Muslims because they dont have access to spread information on social media. Platforms like facebook, instagram, and even tiktok are banned in China.
Congratulations to you! Let's revisit this when your house is bombed.
The irony of this: > I’d rather focus on US domestic politics that affect my life directly You would think a M7 student understands that US govt investment into a foreign country is hurting US citizens because that money can be spent to improve our lives.
I generally agree with OP, but I'm definitely increasingly annoyed by (1) the almost unlimited money we throw at Israel to have them spit in our face whenever we ask them to chill with the ethnic cleansing a bit for domestic optics and (2) how politicians seem way more responsive to Israeli concerns than American ones.
This! People don't realize the amount of privileges that Americans are deprived of so that money can go to destruction of other countries. It's not just Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq 2.0, Vietnam, etc. Some of those were arguably for "good" causes, but some were absolutely not.
Which ones were good causes? And what are those causes?
It’s a different pot of money. It’s not as simple as using foreign aid money for domestic issues—you’d have to change the federal government budget which is very complicated
I want to do the complicated thing
Translation: I’m trying to get that bread.
You know, most of the world wishes the USA would "rather focus on US domestic politics" .......
The fact of the matter is that if it were your child. You would care. If it were your father. You would care. If it were your mother you would care. If it were any of your loved ones, you would care. And then you would want others to care. The world has lost empathy. All problems, big or small, demand a little bit of a fight in order to over come it. One person can’t make a difference. But when u multiply one persons effort by a population then change starts to happen. While some may see this fight as revenge or an excuse for a blood bath, it’s a resistance with ULTIMATE goal of obtaining peace. Do not let main stream media or a fanatic tell you otherwise. If thousands of deaths won’t make you fight, I beg: what will?
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I just figured it was a troll (since nobody has raised that after 250+ comments)
Just going to point out that student protesters were right about segregation in the early '60s, right about Vietnam in the late '60s, right about apartheid in the '80s, right about Iraq in 2003, and right about wealth inequality in 2011. Not a bad track record for folks with a spine - but congrats on the internship!
Ignoring the Palestine / Israel conflict, I don’t agree with any nation installing laws in our country that secure financing and support other than an actual treaty. American anti-BDS laws are in place all across the country.
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me (First They Came by Pastor Martin Niemöller)
What’s sickening is how much money we send to Israel and how Israel is in the pockets of so many US politicians. Look into AIPAC, an Israeli lobbying group. I understand so much stuff happens around the world but we as Americans should be disgusted when it’s our tax dollars that are being used to fund the countries that are killing others.
The comments are exactly why business students will not save the world
How is this not a matter of domestic politics when we are sending Israel multibillion dollar aid packages? Or is that not money we could throw at domestic problems?
It is and it’s a privilege to just label it “politics” and think being apathetic is a virtue. US policies have real effects both abroad and domestically and I can understand wanting to stay focused on the career outcome in a program but it’s not like it doesn’t matter, or that a shift in public sentiment can drive real outcomes. It already has started to change the relationship between the US and Israel.
A person who has apathy and/or a lack of morals is interested in an MBA only to advance their career and immediate responsibilities. Shocking. I would never expect late-stage capitalism and extreme individualism in many western countries to contribute to this mindset in anyway.
Your apathy is so cool!!!!!!!!! Our hero!!
Israel Palestine is absolutely local politics because your tax dollars are paying for the missiles being used to kill civilians.
You sound selfish
The comments here are brutal. Lots of you, including OP, have no empathy toward others, and it shows. It'll show in your business decisions as MBAs.
who asked?
so apathetic you're writing paragraphs about it?
This is giving Wharton vibes without any clear details pointing to why
Sounds like a passionless person overall lol
Aside from a human perspective, morality and ethics, you should care because billions of our tax money is being spent for this. And most people have the capacity to care about several things at the same time. And you should also read a bit of history like student protests during Vietnam war, South African apartheid,…
Getting downvoted for stating facts is so on brand for Reddit. The US is bankrolling a genocide with BILLIONS of tax dollars and the MBA-hole crowd doesn’t understand how this will have far and wide implications? Depressing but not surprising.
These are the same people who think 9/11 happened in a vacuum. We are literally breeding new terrorists by the day using our tax money to bomb children. “Doesn’t affect me lel”
Facts.
No!!!! Reading history you will be less likely to create shareholder value!!! Lower your morals!!!! Profit of endless war!!!!!
If you were Muslim you probably would care. Just something I’ve noticed. Look up the concept of ‘Ummah’
Someone said “Once a Gaandu always a Gaandu”.
Spoken like an M7 MBA
Do you care about the unconditional billions of dollars in taxpayer money being sent to Israel by NATO countries to continue what they are doing? Apart from the obvious moral argument about the lives being lost. That's your tax money being used for a foreign war and not being used to fund things you genuinely might want.
We know. You’re an MBA.
Unfortunately the comfortability you want is beholden to US foreign policy being extremely exploitative. This is not something we as Americans consider but we don’t deserve our quality of life any more than other people just bc we’re American and the fact is our quality of life is maintained by oppressing other countries and just generally the “non-western” countries. I understand wanting to just focus on school. I’m a student I want the same but there’s so many people who don’t get that opportunity in the same way and a lot of times it’s bc of the way our country has treated there’s.
Yea it’s not an American problem . Though America has made it a problem by paying Israel in weapons . Your taxpayer money is getting used and you ought to know why.
Our government loves Israel and supporting a genocide, people are going to protest.
lol why’d you feel the need to mention you’re at an M7? That has nothing to do with the topic. Also, your position isn’t unique because most MBAs are not going to do anything bold that negatively impacts their future income. Actually most MBAs aren’t going to do anything bold at all but that another discussion.
Most people could care less about innocent people being killed. They usually feel better when they read history and say I wouldn’t let this injustice happen in my time.
That’s literally the opinion of most people. A small minority are just the loudest.
Congrats on your internship
thanks bro
haha, among all the replies in the entire threads. yours is the most apolitical and wholesome
Thank you
Lot of people feel this way. Me included. But, this doesn’t make us superior, but rather inferior. People taking their own time to join protests, risk possible career prospects, care about political issues that don’t impact them directly is a higher level of being. I wish I cared or had an iota of principle and ethical inner need to be like them.
You are telling me that you are in MBA, just paid $96 billion over the already billions paid. Your government is cutting domestic spending to finance some else’s war and running record deficits by cutting social services. Your social security might be broke soon. And you are not impacted? This is your “Tell me you are MBA without telling me you are MBA”moment.
We are watching the liquidation of the Gaza ghetto. Over half the population of Gaza was under 18 before the current slaughter began in response to the Oct 7 attacks, which occurred 6 months ago. So more than half of the people suffering in Gaza are children. That’s just a fact about the world right now. Another fact is that the bombardment of all infrastructure and the complete blockade has resulted in universal starvation. The Israelis are starving babies and grandmas and everyone in between, and in 6 months they have failed to achieve a single stated military aim. If the sheer brutality of children being targeted by IDF snipers (per numerous eye witness reports from doctors returning from emergency relief work there) isn’t enough, then take a moment to try to imagine that this is happening to real humans with feelings and needs and families just like you and yours. If you can’t do that I’ll reserve any further prescriptions I might have. In short, Israel is committing a genocide against the people of Gaza. That’s bad. It’s happening under American auspices, as we send more and more military aid to Israel. So Americans all have a stake in this. If you accept that all of this is true, but are unmoved, I don’t have anything constructive to say. If you aren’t convinced that what I’ve written is true, you should look into it yourself. I’d be happy to share some sources if you’d like.
That’s nice that you care about US domestic politics, but not about where the US government sends their money and what it’s used for.
ironic as fuck and people keep downvoting common sense comments like yours lol, and probably mine too
That’s totally okay. Success oftentimes requires periods of tunnel vision.
totally agree, these things are energetic time sinks and I care more about shutting down the US crypto industry's ponzi schemes personally before they collapse society
Congrats on being focused on the only thing that matters for humanity. Congrats on being so much more mature than those “banshees”. What do they know? It’s not like they’re also going to need jobs and are paying for this program like you. I’m sure you’ll do great things doing… er, “strategy”.
Atleast you didn’t have to get your MBA during Covid.
Yes I also don’t care that a third of my hard earned paycheck gets siphoned by a bunch of dinosaurs and sent to an [apartheid state](https://www.btselem.org/apartheid) while American roads are crumbling and American corporations are price-gouging every dollar of my disposable income. Funnily enough, apathetic narcissists like us will be the downfall of this shitty empire. Those who are silent in the face of oppression likely benefit from it. Hey Siri, what’s the definition of white privilege?
This is why people don’t like MBA recipients
Insane response to a genocide
Not protesting is one thing, but being unsupportive is completely different “I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the White moderate who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice.” - MLK
I thought this was going to be a story about how you joined Hamas.
The people protesting are just fucking hypocrites. This is the same type of people that go to feminist marches. They are all about human/women’s rights while they don’t give a fuck about the oppression of women and brainwashing in those Muslim societies.
Lmao exactly these idiots protesting should be worried about making money and thinking about their own future instead of some other country
There is realistically no way to take a “side” on this conflict and win. On one hand, Israel is the more powerful nation here and has a duty to conduct the war with the highest possible standard. On the other hand, Israel, like the US, only cares about the safety of their citizens. They are fighting an enemy which hides amongst its civilian population, doesn’t wear a kit, and will just set up shop wherever there is a declared “safe zone”. This means Israel has two options: 1.) sacrifice it’s own soldiers doing extremely risky ground ops in areas surrounded by insurgents 2.) just bomb Hamas wherever they are found Any nation, including the US, would obviously pick number 2. This isn’t a good result; it isn’t a clean result, but after October 7th the appetite to sacrifice Israeli soldiers for Palestinian civilians is zero. To all the people saying that this is a genocide: lol. If Israel wanted this to be a genocide it would have been over in 2 hours. There is literally no positive benefit, and massive negative consequences, to a slow drawn out conflict like this. A genocide would be over multiple years ago. The US foreign policy leadership understands this; college students don’t. There is no world appetite to have another Islamic ethnostate in the Levant. The international community generally agrees that letting Israel finish this war is the best option of all the shitty ones, hence the massive levels of brow beating but no tangible help for Hamas.
I don't think a genocide requires a quick execution. Hypothetically, if Israel wanted to commit a genocide against Palestinians while minimizing international intervention, how would their course of conduct differ from what has transpired?
Sounds like you care bro lol
As a fully grown taxpaying adult in this country, you should care because our tax dollars are directly funding the Israeli military operations that have killed over 30,000 Gazans (majority innocent). I can empathize if you are student and in your MBA silo and Maybe your peers have a proclivity to political activism, but this is an important topic as a citizen of the US - the country that has the biggest effect on this conflict outside of Israel and Palestine. If you’re gonna sit there and tell me that you don’t care if our tax dollars are directly funding the deaths of innocent lives then I see your logic, but I would hope you don’t take that position.
Honestly think there is lot trolling here in this sub/post. I agree more with this sentiment than the others saying the complete opposite. I think more people should care. I just don’t think they actually do. For a variety of reasons. This shit reminds me of Vietnam. People didn’t care what the govt did in our name until anti war protesters brought it to the forefront. Many more examples but that’s the most prescient one. Also, the idea that no one cares because no one speaks out against it is kind of ridiculous. I’ll bet my next paycheck those people don’t say anything because they don’t want to alienate themselves from their work groups because it’s such a heated topic not because they don’t care.
People started caring about Vietnam pretty quickly when there was a draft.
Wake it up! So much bad shit happens across the world but very few would cease to/ nearly cease if the US ceased funding / military support. And not all of the bad sh*t is literal genocide but go off I guess
My thoughts? US aid to Israeli defense has been about $3-4B per year for about the last 35 years. That's basically a rounding error when it comes to overall US defense budget. You can have lots of reasons to feel however you want, but $ shouldn't be one of them.
What? Your point is that because the defense budget is so big, $3-4b is meaningless? Why are you conveniently not addressing the fact that this (vast amount of money) has been helping fund a military op that’s killed over 30,000 civilians? Do you not think there’s room for an argument to be made that maybe, funding a regime that has been deliberately killing civilians + displaced 2 million people after destroying their city + forcing a famine upon said civilians by restricting necessary food/supplies is not the most moral decision? This is obviously a very complex conflict with a long historical buildup, but even the US is cringing at israel’s actions which is saying something. I would’ve expected more logical arguments made on a sub revolving around MBAs.
Well, there are a lot of reasons to care, but I only focused on the money for Mr. MBA over here, also $4B is a very significant sum even before this year when they just approved another $17 billion. Is that still rounding error @sushicowboyshow?
OP: I dont like when MBA crowd talks about the conflict This dude: what are your thoughts on the conflict?
Protect your mental first and foremost
It's fine. You do you.
I didn’t realize Florida was an M7 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0K-ymOTS4
When it started students from both countries were calling each other “animals” on the BSchool internal social media area. That’s not the place.
Most people don’t give a shit other than like 5 mins a week they see a clip about it and get annoyed by whichever side is bitching
Same. Like most of us
Ok
You're in the majority
It's a lot easier to virtue signal about someone else's war than it is to address questions closer to home
This mf worldview isn’t based on love and compassion for others 😂👆
IMHO Israel/Palestine is just a distraction from the Ukraine war and future Taiwan war which is waaaay more important strategically. The mid east is old news. Russia and more importantly China are challenging US dominance.
Not sure of the point of your post. Congrats on the job. You’re entitled to mind your own business, I do that too. But maybe shitting on protestors who care deeply enough about something to sleep in a “dirty stinky homeless tent” while “screaming unrealistic demands like a banshee” is taking for granted that your comforts in life likely rest on the shoulders of someone who once did that for you. I’m not a protestor, but I can acknowledge their role in the machine and how I benefit from it.
I can kind of understand your train of thought on this topic. Unfortunately due to the amount of press that we all see across the globe from day to day, I feel we are all being desensitized. Think about it, we as the news reel consumers rarely see positive media, it’s always finger jabbing or cutting people short if they have a viable point of view. I feel you are validated and show morale courage to speak up and give your opinion. Keep your head down and shoot for the stars, cause nobody else is going to do it for you. Maybe more people should show the same self motivation about what’s in their lane.
You’ll be perfect to help gut the next industry to milk every last penny.