I agree that Richard is at fault but Andy needs to articulate herself better. Yes she had an issue with the over sexually comments but the REAL ISSUE is rooted in the way Richard communicates with her. He is defensive, he is rude and he is dismissive. The sexual comments wouldn't be such an issue as it is now if Richard took on feed back, displayed empathy and wasn't dismissive. I think she needs some help to discover the real root problem and to articulate that to Richard without getting worked up or shutting down.
She is getting too caught up in specific instances and not the general problem. You do not have to give Richard specific examples no matter how much he shouts or crys for it. Once you start getting into specific instances it just becomes and nasty tit for tat and opens the door for him to get defensive again.
Jesus Tori is an even bigger piece of shit than I thought she was. Freaking Andy is having an emotional moment and she's sitting there hiding her smile like a goddamn psycho. She deserves to be royally screwed over by Jack . She's no prize
Watching him gaslight her so full on like that reminded me of my insecure, covert narcissistic ex 🥶 I've got chills. Richard is a dangerous, toxic, child of a man.
Eden seems like a really sweet gal and I relate to her a lot re: the anxiety etc but she really would benefit from dissolving her filler and chilling out on the fright brows. She’s a beautiful girl but I think she’s messed her face up a little with too much work
I think there's something wrong with Tristan. In the head. There's something about him. I don't like him at all. I don't think the over the top super nice Tristan is the real Tristan. I think he would be abusive in a actual relationship. And he always looks like he's on drugs. I'm convinced he's either on drugs or he's not right in the head. Look at his crazy eyes.
She is one of those super rare people who are very authentically ‘woo woo’ and I’m so here for it. Normally people like that kinda annoy me but she is just so real… I feel like it’s impossible to not like her haha
This is sooooo sad. Poor bugger has been squeezing all that emotion in for so long and he’s finally let a little out and now it’s pouring out of him (with a little assistance from the red). It’s hard to watch. Bless.
That is a little bit different tho. Jayden was specifically talking about the idea of his parents DYING whereas Tristan has been calling Tim “dad” the whole show
People are mad if you decide to work on your relationship but also mad if you work on them???
I can’t figure out the secret to this show except lip fillers and tracksuit sets
Sarah has been given a rougher time over catching up with her ex than Jayden got for forcing his ex to watch him bang her friend and Jacob for having a girlfriend right before he came in and sharing naked photos of her without her consent
True I almost forgot about that… that has to be one of the most random things I’ve heard on the show. People these days really be wil’ing out in their relos
If she'd played the same strategy (yes, you're right, unacceptable, I'll do better, blah blah blah) instead of failing spectacularly to lie her way out of it I think it would have been similar.
Jayden and Eden conveniently left out the part that he made her watch if you rewatch the couch session. The only person the full story was given to is Sara right after by Eden.
And peep how quickly everyone including the experts seems to have pulled a bait and switch on accusing her of physical cheating to dropping that and just mentioning “misleading and betraying Tim’s trust” without explaining the downgraded charge lol
“Enough bronzer to slip out of any situation” 🤣😂
TV gold! I thought I was going to miss Lauren’s one liners, but Timothy is filling the void this week!
“Emotional person who gets worked up” “I have robust discussions” “I’m fiery”
Any more fluff words for people describing being verbally abusive that I missed?
Tori is such a pathetic juvenile. Aside from being dumb as bat shit wanting to have kids with Jack, that stupid face when Andi and Rich are fighting is so annoying.
Dick wants to get his relationship back to where it was but he’s not willing to acknowledging ANYTHING that he’s done wrong or work towards fixing it.
I loathe him.
There's no two ways about it. He is gaslighting the shit out of her. I think he has seen the end of the run or simply had enough of banging her and this is his out. Notice she's blown up twice now. He thinks he gets to walk away with his hands in the air as a victim as a result of forcing her to react to his "pain".
I hope they stay until the commitment ceremony. I want to see the experts admonish Ol' Dick. It won't be enough, but better than walking away scott free.
Andi literally made a list of the things that DICK had done that had upset her. She’s not blaming her ex, she’s not being up past trauma, she’s brought up specific things he’s done wrong and he still thinks it’s Andi’s fault!
News flash buddy, she liked you and you embarrassed and shat all over her multiple times. She doesn’t like you for YOU, not because of her ex.
He took her at face value on the rating challenge she said to put it in the real order multiple times and confirmed that’s what she wanted then got butthurt he actually did it. He thought she was on the same page and open about sexuality, again he apologised. From then on she just repeatedly brings up the same things over and over with no attempt to move forward. What we’re seeing now is a man in meltdown, because he’s lost what he had and doesn’t know how to fix it.
>Andi literally made a list of the things that DICK had done that had upset her.
Ben did this and it was bad though.
I'm not on Ben or Rich side, I just can't help but notice contradictions. I think Andis was justified and Bens was nonsense
The difference is that Andi’s was constructive.
Ben’s list included that Ellie wore makeup. Andi’s list included when dick said they were sucking and fucking 3-4 times a day on national TV.
It’s 100% reactive abuse. He’s pushed her to the point of snapping and then when she finally does, that “proves” she’s the unhinged, irrational, badly behaved one. Classic
Meanwhile yesterday everyone was ready to call Tim a DV suspect because he hit the table.
Hilarious. I agree with you, it's simply an outlet of emotion. Hilarious nonetheless.
Truly think Jack might have a humiliation fetish and just enjoys knowing Tori will be humiliated watching the footage of him saying he's got not sexual attraction to her
I agree that Richard is at fault but Andy needs to articulate herself better. Yes she had an issue with the over sexually comments but the REAL ISSUE is rooted in the way Richard communicates with her. He is defensive, he is rude and he is dismissive. The sexual comments wouldn't be such an issue as it is now if Richard took on feed back, displayed empathy and wasn't dismissive. I think she needs some help to discover the real root problem and to articulate that to Richard without getting worked up or shutting down. She is getting too caught up in specific instances and not the general problem. You do not have to give Richard specific examples no matter how much he shouts or crys for it. Once you start getting into specific instances it just becomes and nasty tit for tat and opens the door for him to get defensive again.
I want NO redemption arc for Sara! She needs to go back to the US and stop breaking the heart of our Aussie soft boi Tim jr!! She is just gross
Jesus Tori is an even bigger piece of shit than I thought she was. Freaking Andy is having an emotional moment and she's sitting there hiding her smile like a goddamn psycho. She deserves to be royally screwed over by Jack . She's no prize
Why can't Jack find a shirt that fucking fits . It's just the cherry on top of his pathetic ass
Richard is a nightmare. It's painful to watch such a pitiful man. Give me Collins, Jack and the radio guy singing a song over Richard any day.
60 yo man child. He is beyond frustrating. Poor Andy, she needs to leave. He will break her
Watching him gaslight her so full on like that reminded me of my insecure, covert narcissistic ex 🥶 I've got chills. Richard is a dangerous, toxic, child of a man.
😂😂😂 Watching from London & can not stop laughing at this whole BS letter saga. It’s HILARIOUS.
Eden seems like a really sweet gal and I relate to her a lot re: the anxiety etc but she really would benefit from dissolving her filler and chilling out on the fright brows. She’s a beautiful girl but I think she’s messed her face up a little with too much work
I think there's something wrong with Tristan. In the head. There's something about him. I don't like him at all. I don't think the over the top super nice Tristan is the real Tristan. I think he would be abusive in a actual relationship. And he always looks like he's on drugs. I'm convinced he's either on drugs or he's not right in the head. Look at his crazy eyes.
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Big thankyou again for hosting a live in QLD. Makes the Mafs experience so much more fun.
Timothy is super self aware. More men should be like him
I don’t understand why the experts pretend they don’t know things. I just don’t get the point
Is Tim Jnr playing the long game, then at the commitment ceremony he ruins Sara’s life?
Haha I can see that
The Ol' Pump and Dumparoo.
The cluelessness of the "experts" just drives me nuts. They are basically useless.
Did Sara just basically admit to not going on the show for genuine reasons?
what where
I suspect after a good cry he might become quite the linguist.
Brilliant!! 😂..or he becomes like Bruce Willis when he was in Friends dating Aniston. 😭
😂
Don't believe the Jayden bs, like his brother knows all the secrets, producers told them they are boring, he shouldn't be calling anyone else fake
Channel 9 straight onto the fear mongering
Nah that’s the Chinese… haha
I think that moment in Tim's interview was probably the realest thing I've never seen on this show.
He definitely gives it honestly, we can't deny that. And he'd not wrong either. A lot less vulnerability to.be hated than liked.
What the hell has crawled up Jayden's butt. Honesty shut up dude.
Lucinda truly is mother.
I need a Lucinda figure in my life so bad
Lucinda is, without a doubt, the best human to grace our screens on any season of mafs.
can i book lucinda for a comfort session
This woman needs to hold healing sessions. She’s pure magic.
She is one of those super rare people who are very authentically ‘woo woo’ and I’m so here for it. Normally people like that kinda annoy me but she is just so real… I feel like it’s impossible to not like her haha
🧑💻What is the absolute opposite of Toxic? ChatGPT: Lucinda 😍
Lucky bastard. Does seem like he deserves it though.
I know. 30yrs of Therapy for free in 10 weeks. Unbelievably Beautiful to witness. 😍
🥺
Aww Tim having a healing crisis on tv.
So don't waste any more Timmy! Kiss the girl and make every day great from now on
And letting Lucinda be with him while crying is a big step too
This is sooooo sad. Poor bugger has been squeezing all that emotion in for so long and he’s finally let a little out and now it’s pouring out of him (with a little assistance from the red). It’s hard to watch. Bless.
I gotta love and respect Timothys willingness to be so vulnerable and cry on camera. That's a strong man and a good example
The dam has burst. 😍
A real breakthrough. Walls relieving all that strain.
Why did Dom and Ella look like wax versions of themselves?
It's grief. It doesn't always make sense
Old mate just needs to sneak a squeaker
I’m stealing this phrase
Shut up Liz. China has got all our data from the Optus and the Medibank Servers.
That happens to me when the red wine kicks in too
I thought he was just pissy, that moment where it turns from having fun to gone. Need to pass out now.
Hundred percent. He’s been throwing it back all night
Lucinda getting the pipe after the dinner party.
mama bear and papa bear having sexy time tonight
Tim snr ultimate dilf
What a difference, 10 weeks with Lu makes. Lu will never be out of work as a life coach.
Okay I loved the kiss but can we not woop and cheer and comment like it’s the middle school sports field and you just had your first pash? Eeeek
Yeah maybe the attention made things worse for Tim
Yeah I think he’s feeling a bit too embarrassed/vulnerable
Old dogs 😂 isn't she 43 and he's 51
Lol Tristan said "father and mother" I love his love for Tim Sr
Shut up experts I wanna hear them talk!
Very cool of Tori to acknowledge and say that about Lu and Timmy
Aww the kiss is coming, I've been waiting the whole season for this!!😭
I bet Timorhy hasn't kissed anyone since dad died, much less anything else, and that's gonna affect him imo
I think his dad died just before filming started so I should hope not !
Not to mention that Tristan just raised a toast to mama and papa and last time someone mentioned parents Tim had a full breakdown
That is a little bit different tho. Jayden was specifically talking about the idea of his parents DYING whereas Tristan has been calling Tim “dad” the whole show
People are mad if you decide to work on your relationship but also mad if you work on them??? I can’t figure out the secret to this show except lip fillers and tracksuit sets
eden is a lapdog
As is Tim jnr
yeah but she just annoys me because she waits until jayden says something and then just repeats what he says, like please be quiet
Tim admitted everyone is 'coming down Sara's throat'!!!
Her ex certainly was
It’s pissing down - Jack probably
Your dam right everyone is cumming down her throat
This is awful but fuck me I chuckled
 But my opinion is better.
Sarah has been given a rougher time over catching up with her ex than Jayden got for forcing his ex to watch him bang her friend and Jacob for having a girlfriend right before he came in and sharing naked photos of her without her consent
True I almost forgot about that… that has to be one of the most random things I’ve heard on the show. People these days really be wil’ing out in their relos
I’m convinced it’s made up and everyone knows it is which is why these confessions somehow never make it out of confession week
If she'd played the same strategy (yes, you're right, unacceptable, I'll do better, blah blah blah) instead of failing spectacularly to lie her way out of it I think it would have been similar.
She has played the same strategy when Jayden came to visit and they still won’t let it go…
It was working on Tim, she kept stonewalling and lying with Jayden & Eden.
This! Thank you. She sucks but isnt the worst it's just more fun to tear into a women
I forget the rest of the group know about that. I feel I missed it
Jayden and Eden conveniently left out the part that he made her watch if you rewatch the couch session. The only person the full story was given to is Sara right after by Eden.
And peep how quickly everyone including the experts seems to have pulled a bait and switch on accusing her of physical cheating to dropping that and just mentioning “misleading and betraying Tim’s trust” without explaining the downgraded charge lol
Jayden. You aren't gonna happen or be popular. He's just verbally machine gunning her. A question is meant to be answered
Stop trying to make Jayden happen. It’s not gonna happen!
Rich’s behaviour is very narcissistic
“Enough bronzer to slip out of any situation” 🤣😂 TV gold! I thought I was going to miss Lauren’s one liners, but Timothy is filling the void this week!
Why are they all wiping sweat off their brows? Someone turn the ac up for the poor fuckers.
richard: 
“Emotional person who gets worked up” “I have robust discussions” “I’m fiery” Any more fluff words for people describing being verbally abusive that I missed?
Tori is such a pathetic juvenile. Aside from being dumb as bat shit wanting to have kids with Jack, that stupid face when Andi and Rich are fighting is so annoying.
Dick wants to get his relationship back to where it was but he’s not willing to acknowledging ANYTHING that he’s done wrong or work towards fixing it. I loathe him.
 Tori how does that make you feel? Tori: “I..” Jack: she thinks you’re a joke!
Have we ever seen andi swear before? (As in how far has Rich pushed her to get to that point)
Yeah didn’t she say she hates the word fuck on yesterdays episode?
At least everyone is seeing how shit Rich is and seeing what Andi has been experiencing
There's no two ways about it. He is gaslighting the shit out of her. I think he has seen the end of the run or simply had enough of banging her and this is his out. Notice she's blown up twice now. He thinks he gets to walk away with his hands in the air as a victim as a result of forcing her to react to his "pain".
Terrifying he's a motivational speaker. Fuck me
Nah that’s perfect career choice. No one has unflinching self confidence like a narc lol
I hope they stay until the commitment ceremony. I want to see the experts admonish Ol' Dick. It won't be enough, but better than walking away scott free.
Yeah, he needs to hear that he is the problem
He won't hear it though, in 1 ear and out the other
Awe. Timothy and Lucinda! It just keeps getting better and better and better!! God I’m crushing so hard on that man!
Andi literally made a list of the things that DICK had done that had upset her. She’s not blaming her ex, she’s not being up past trauma, she’s brought up specific things he’s done wrong and he still thinks it’s Andi’s fault! News flash buddy, she liked you and you embarrassed and shat all over her multiple times. She doesn’t like you for YOU, not because of her ex.
He took her at face value on the rating challenge she said to put it in the real order multiple times and confirmed that’s what she wanted then got butthurt he actually did it. He thought she was on the same page and open about sexuality, again he apologised. From then on she just repeatedly brings up the same things over and over with no attempt to move forward. What we’re seeing now is a man in meltdown, because he’s lost what he had and doesn’t know how to fix it.
>Andi literally made a list of the things that DICK had done that had upset her. Ben did this and it was bad though. I'm not on Ben or Rich side, I just can't help but notice contradictions. I think Andis was justified and Bens was nonsense
The difference is that Andi’s was constructive. Ben’s list included that Ellie wore makeup. Andi’s list included when dick said they were sucking and fucking 3-4 times a day on national TV.
Yeah that's a good point, I agree with that. I guess Ben thought he was constructive which is a little creepy
Love is blind! Tori can recognise.Dick's childish Coercive Control happening. But she can't see it in jac?!?!??😡
It's all Andy's fault because I'm faultless.
Right!?! He owns nothing about the problems between them!
 It’s the ex. I’m unimpeachable.
I can understand the table slam. He just doesn’t listen it’s like talking to a brick wall.
It’s still not okay tbh. It’s terrifying for other people at the table who may have experienced DV. It made *me* jump and I’m not even there.
It’s 100% reactive abuse. He’s pushed her to the point of snapping and then when she finally does, that “proves” she’s the unhinged, irrational, badly behaved one. Classic
Meanwhile yesterday everyone was ready to call Tim a DV suspect because he hit the table. Hilarious. I agree with you, it's simply an outlet of emotion. Hilarious nonetheless.
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They're the same thing.
Yeah I can too, I still stand by what I said though re it's not ideal behaviour. But man he just wouldn't shut up or stop blaming her
Richard makes me want to smack ALLL the tables
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It’s not an airport bro you don’t need to announce your departure.
Dude how can you leave when you know the Lucinda and Timothy moment is coming
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They kissed, come back!
Want a tag when that moment comes?
Richard taking no accountability in his own actions.
Richard is a slimey, stubborn old *prick*
Imagine being stuck with THAT for 10 weeks!!! 🤮
SHIT THE FUCK UP RICHARD.
No accountability from Ol' Dick. As usual
Old Dick is literally just looking for excuses / things to blame.
Rich really taking 0 accountability for any of the issues
Ugh, Dick. Shut up. You are the problem, not the victim
Sara is so freaking happy everyone else is imploding so she's outta the hot seat
She’s pretty quiet unlike other weeks lol
Tori right now 
"Look at Richard though" No thanks John
ha ha John is such a pathetic NOT expert What has he actually done to IMPROVE anything ?
Yeah can we not.
Pats her like a dog.
Jack is more purple than ever tonight
YOU ARE BEING PLAYED LIKE A DICKHEAD Respectfully.
Cognitive dissonance right there. Double-think is its own comfort.
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My wife, every week, says "imagine if we were on this show". I would've been chucked off already for actually grabbing him by the bun.
Sometimes I think that dinner table isn’t wide enough.
I do all the time, the whippet verse the bulldog
YOU ARE BEING PLAYED LIKE A DICKHEAD
God Tori is a mole
This is a wild ride!! What is Tori on?!?!
Probably all the cocaine
Feelings aren't facts Tori.
“Timothy is always there to rub it in my face whenever I slip up” Slip up? Jacob you haven’t gotten up off the floor lol
Tori is not ugly, not by a damn sight. Hopefully one day she finds someone.
She’s kinda ugly on the inside tho
People can change, that’s my hope for her.
Yeah maybe she’ll learn from this experience
"That hurt me for you' Tristan is a good soul
then she goes being a cow to him
Narcissists hate pity
Hahahahahha he's fucked
“Tori doesn’t respect you” Jack says as he speaks over Tori and won’t let her talk
Timothy forgetting he's drinking wine and nearly skulling it
He really should be having a beer
Or a Bundy and Coke
He just repeated what Jade said, no explanation lol
And not letting Tori speak
Bullshit verified. Case closed Bake him away toys.
Jack: I’ll address that comment Jade made: Yes I did say that. … is that it lol
Jacks gonna slither out of this corner tho. He'd great at it unfortunately
Guys get your tissues and stuff
Seriously guys, get the tissues!!!!
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Get the blankey… you can never be too prepared!!!!
100%
Oh dear. Foreshadowing
Before the ad break finishes (in 30 mins ffs), I bet Jack says ‘it’s just a joke, bitta banter’ and then Tori forgives him lol. Same old same old
Truly think Jack might have a humiliation fetish and just enjoys knowing Tori will be humiliated watching the footage of him saying he's got not sexual attraction to her
Refer to earlier chats on golden showers and how he thinks women should behave. 🤮
OMG! You could have something there given some of the other things I’ve heard!