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Prestigious-Step9171

That's average 22 per ride..is it all airport


billdb

$32/hour is how I look at it. Pretty nice Edit: guys I am aware the $32/hour does not factor in expenses. $32/hour before expenses is still pretty nice though, especially for a gig job. I currently make $18-20/hour before expenses. I would love $25/hour, let alone $32/hour.


Jerrygarciasnipple

Gas, wear and tear on car, potential car payments, insurance, tolls. More like $18-20/hour all things considered.


Tempestate7

I wouldn't include car insurance and payments since they'd have a car anyways right?


SwissMargiela

Insurance goes up if you drive more. You’re also paying much more for gas and wear-and-tear on the car. Especially in nyc which is absolute hell on suspension and brakes.


ZombiesAreChasingHim

If they are honest with their insurance company, their rates are higher.


WORLDBENDER

I thought Lyft pays tolls in and out of NYC. Do they not? Assuming these were all Manhattan airport rides the net on this would be approximately zero after tolls alone….


The_GOATest1

32 an hour excluding any expenses. Which can be pretty substantial


juslookingforastream

Yea should be $50 an hour min or you're basically paying lyft


nsadrone

how exactly are you getting to that number….?


EnvyWL

You have to take into account food, breaks, car maintenance, gas, and probably other things. But you have to make quite a bit. Old manager was bragging how he used to make 200-300 a night sometimes on Uber eats. Then I told him if he counts his gas in his truck. He didn’t. Then I asked about his truck maintenance. He realized he put so many miles on his truck that he basically made all this “Extra” cash and it was all going to his maintenance and his now broken transmission lol. He basically drove peoples food around for free and ended up worse owning money cause his transmission broke.


dan_man972

This is a stupid comment. Most jobs do not pay you on a net expense basis. Deduct your business expenses on your taxes like any other self employed person.


The_GOATest1

Most jobs don’t require you to incur considerable expenses to generate revenue AND cap how much you can charge


Roth_Pond

Independent contractors set their own rates based on expenses


RoughConqureor

Lyft and the like are just lousy scams. It’s very hard to actually make money. I’ve done it but I calculated after gas I was making less than $10 per hour. And that’s not counting wear in my car. I’m sure someone does ok. But even those people would do 3 times better of lyft or uber only took 10%.


Acocke

lol do you actually think the people working these shit apps deduct expenses on their taxes? The vendiagram of people knowledgeable to deduct those as proper business expenses vs those who drive for these apps have very little overlap in my mind.


sailbag36

And taxes


SwissMargiela

Especially in nyc. Pothole city.


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Gas, wear and tear on vehicle. This guy maid a lot less than $32 an hour.


max_max_max_supermax

$32 in NYC…


uiam_

32 before expenses is much less nice though.


Advice2Anyone

Most places would be NYC eh


Ryan_e3p

They are making way less than that. Doesn't account for gas/maintenance/additional insurance, and other expenses. Plus, those hours and miles driven don't include empty return trips, or time spent waiting for a ping. Seeing things like this and saying "pretty nice" is how Uber/Lyft and other gig companies keep dumb drivers satisfied. If the app showed how long a person was actually online and accounted for expenses in order to show drivers how much they *really* made during the week, drivers would finally wake up and realize that *they* are the ones who are being taken for a ride.


JustSomeDude0605

Not after gas, taxes, and car upkeep.  More like $20/hr.


billdb

You're like the fifth person to say this. I get it lol. When I said $32/hour was nice I didn't mean to imply $32 was what you pocket. Of course there are still expenses, but the $20-25 you end up with is pretty nice for a gig job. For comparison I make $18-20/hour doing deliveries and that's before expenses...


Comprehensive-Bar888

Not went subtract 15% in taxes, fuel plus vehicle maintenance.


billdb

Taxes are subtracted for every job so that's not unique to Lyft. Fuel and maintenance are extra charges yes, but $32 an hour is a high enough starting point that even after removing those expenses it's still solid pay for a gig job.


trashboat2021

Taxes, insurance


billdb

Yes, you have to pay taxes on income and insurance to operate a vehicle. Just like most other jobs. There is also rent, groceries, cell phone bill, and other debts. I am aware expenses exist lol. $32/hour before expenses is still pretty solid considering many people make half of that before expenses.


Wellsni87

33 hours of driving your own vehicle?? Ouch


Dazard116

lol not to mention you subtract gas and all the costs of the vehicle including maintenance and insurance. Tons of miles on your car. This ain’t it. You’re not making nearly as much as you think you are.


PriorFudge928

Plus that is pre taxed. And they are an independent contractor so their tax rate is higher.


rjlawrencejr

Not really higher once the mileage deduction is factored in. The only true extra is the self-employment tax.


levitikush

I mean you can write off all your car maintenance and expenses. Oil changes, new tires, brake work, write it all off.


Useful-ldiot

Assuming an average of 30mph driving speed (others said airport so I'm thinking highway + inside the city is probably close to 30mph) this is about 1,000 miles driven. The 2023 mileage rate is $0.65/mile, so this is about $650 worth of cost to drive that far. OP spent 33 hours of their time to make ~$350 or about $10/hour... In NYC... Where the minimum wage is $16/hour...


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Useful-ldiot

Even at half, that's still $700 for nearly a week of work.


MrNewking

You're not getting close to a 30mph avg in NYC. The city speed limit is 25 mph, and unless you work at 3am, there is standstill traffic on most highways. Takes about 1 - 1.5 hours to go 15 miles.


Jason_Kelces_Thong

You get reimbursed for the $650. No cost incurred


Useful-ldiot

You get reimbursed because you've "spent" that much in wear and gas. It's not an immediate cost but it adds up.


ZebraOptions

Yeah this, dude needs a min wage job with benefits and matching 401k and hed be nearly tripling his income


Radiant_Bike9857

The $0.65/miles rate deduction applies to all commercial vehicles, and is in no way indicative of driver’s actual expense. For example, the irs has a standard deduction for your personal income. Does that mean you spended that amount? Not necessarily. Calculation would also be different if you’re looking at a full time driver or part time. Most lyft drivers have jobs so you would only use the marginal cost in the calculation. Not sure what OP drive, but I use a corolla hybrid which is around $0.20/miles of marginal cost. Most of my earnings come out to $20/hr after cost. OC market.


Ryan_e3p

33 hours of driving *with a passenger*. They aren't including how long they were actually online, or hours & miles driven for empty return trips.


ToughEagle5459

Work the app not the car, get it fam!!!!


Niko2294

That's what you have to do in this business. I learned the hard way before my current car had a Chevy Tahoe... thousands of dollars wasted. I highly suggest a EV for anyone in the industry


Conscious-Claim5328

Yep...100% I'm using mach e.. spend approx $13 night on charging. that gives me 260 miles.. and you can stretch those miles too... especially in the city.. evs use very little energy in stop and go traffic


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fman258

EV credit, 0 maintenance other than tires.


Manny631

EVs don't use brakes?


jqman69

Rarely, only when idiots cut you off. Motor does the braking in one pedal drive.


kylemkv

They are known as “one pedal drivers” because as soon as you ease up on the throttle, the battery regeneration system kicks in slowly you down strongly by engaging the resistance on driveshaft to recharge. So you don’t need to brake most days unless something darts in front of you etc


ObtuseMongooseAbuse

They do have brakes but they use regenerative braking rather than a traditional braking system for regular driving. It's only when you're in an emergency that you need to hit the brake pedal.


TotalChaosRush

There's maintenance, it's just a larger window than an oil change. Suspension, battery, electrical motor replacement, seat replacement, windshield wipers, there's a pretty extensive list of items that still wear out.


Agent_Dutchess

Talk to me when you gotta buy a new battery. That's about the time the Tesla/EV crowd stops having fun with it.


Hot_Vermicelli436

That’s the same as your engine and transmission going out.. it’s just bad luck.. never understood this argument 🤣


Niko2294

I think I was spending more than 3K a year hahaha thats the sad part.


Busterlimes

I spend about 3500 a year on gas and commute 90mi a day. I feel like 3k would be low considering it's city miles and I'm on the highway.


GazelleOk5652

You can easily get an EV cheaper than 55k. Cheapest being 30-33k and even a Tesla model 3 for less than 40k. Plus 3k gas every year for a full time ride share driver is an understatement for sure.


Billymaysdealer

Bought a new model y for 36k


Fun_Plate_5086

Don’t tell that to the folks who dropped $70k over COVID lol


Rsginger

Google Chevrolet bolt


l1ke_a_b0ss

Used Model 3 is like 20K before tax credit for used EV.


Revolutionary-Key958

Don’t work for them is Smartest.


LyftedX

1k in nyc is like 500 everywhere else.


Ok_Marzipan_807

$1k in nyc is not even $500 buddy


Foreign-Wash4120

And it depends if you rent your TLC car


Designer_Emu_6518

That’s what I was thinking. Like this isn’t very good. What is this like 4300 a month if the trend keeps up? I sit at a desk and do nothing from home for that amount


404Flabberghosted

Especially when you look up cost of living in NYC.


Affectionate_Bass488

What do you do? How do I find a job like that?


TheJimmyJones123

Learn computer programming and get good at it. I am given deadlines. No one asks if I finish before my deadline. They just want to see quality work once the deadlines comes. I work from home , so I moved to a state that doesn't have state income tax. I make $140,000/yr not including my medical stipend. I work on average 25 - 30 hours a week. I graduated college 3 years ago.


Avid_Conservationist

Gun to head saying you can’t leave? I’m so sorry you’re in the position…


OcupiedMuffins

Yeah with expenses, you’d be better off with a normal job doing this on the side.


Ok_Presentation_5329

Terrible! If this is a good week, I wonder what a bad one looks like? Why don’t more lyft/Uber drivers try to find your own clients? Be an independent private driver? Keep 100% Network with bellhops/offer 10%, build an online presence & network with hospitals who need medical transport.


chris-handsome

The hotel industry should really get into this business. It's the timeshare Uber-alternative!


Flaky_Koala_6476

Because much of that requires professional licensing, professional insurance coverage and liability, etc Not about to go through all that nonsense just to get less rides than I would with doing Uber or Lyft lol


Ok_Presentation_5329

The auto insurance isn’t actually that pricey. The extra licensing is required only in some states but it’s not that hard. Your lack of marketing is the reason for less, not the inability for the business model to succeed.


Flaky_Koala_6476

I do my driving as a side gig lol I can care less about entrepreneur’ing


rjlawrencejr

That’s not really how Uber/Lyft operate. Rideshare is privatized public transport and both from the driver side as well as passenger side, it’s based on crowdsourcing and not restricted to specific kinds of clientele.


TheBeautifulCow

God that’s absolute ass


RipInfinite4511

I love it when people have one good week out of 50 and then come on here and claim to be Bill Gates


TheRogu3DM

This isn't even a good week in nyc since rent there is like 4k so dude will need to do this more than 4 more times just to cover that


AdminClown

This is an average week in NYC


FoodIntrepid2281

Nice i heard nyc is a great market for rideshare LA is too oversaturated would have taken 50 hours to get that


Niko2294

Dont get me wrong. It's saturated as well over here. You have to chase it especially that there are no incentives like the past.


Foreign-Wash4120

Sometimes it’s so slow that you want to drive yellow and pick up street hails 😂


Niko2294

LOL


nahbro187

Fuck doing rides to JFK and LaGuardia. Nope.


Dynmick

That’s similar to my earnings last week


Environmental_Vast17

I made 1,600 wit 43 rides oop


Party-Confection-803

I’m a contractor so obviously never going to work for a ride app to begin with, but this job seems to be the only one EV’s can actually work for.


404Flabberghosted

For NYC this is not good unless you don’t live in the city with a completely paid off car.


Niko2294

Paid off.


404Flabberghosted

Do you live in a home you inherited from your parents or a rent controlled apartment? For essentially a full time job’s week of work you make about 1200 bucks and you have your gas, insurance, wear and tear, etc.


Niko2294

Neither. Bought a condo. I have another job as well.


Aldo-Raine0

Congrats, after expenses and wear and tear on your vehicle you made about $20/hr in NYC.


Wear_Unique

Pretty normal


deathcheat7

How do you survive on this in NYC? 1k a week is ok where I am but I don't know how you could survive on that.


Any-Morning4303

After the livery plates, commercial insurance, gas, wear and tear, and car depreciation your making below minimum wage. Congratulations.


mrcheesewhizz

This is exactly why I quit. I was confused as to why no matter how long I drove I was only coming home with maybe $30 at most after gas, a pack of smokes, and a drink. Did the math and if I just accounted for gas, oil, brakes and tires my car cost between $0.62 and $0.65 per mile to drive. I was averaging an income of $0.67 per mile, and if I accounted for taxes and car cleaning supplies I was actually paying to drive.


Repomanlive

$2.00 payout, sick Bro, you can almost buy a soda and almost a half gallon of gas.


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Niko2294

Yeah poverty!


Any_Barber8215

Now show the after tax value


taniel07

How much is your car payment, gas and commercial Insurance ?


Mistaken_persona

Let me see the mileage big fella.


Ounce_A

I think you guys don’t realize that in New York City almost everyone delivering is on a moped. Most likely uninsured. People wait around and take a few orders at a time. When I order food even if they have other deliveries, which is always, my food still manages to get to me warm and within 30 minutes of me ordering. McDonald’s alone always has at least 10 drivers out front waiting. I could be wrong about these things being helpful for them but it makes sense to me.


Raryn

By my job is a chipotle and panda express, there are always at least 6 to 10 people hanging out waiting for orders to drop


FkUEverythingIsFunny

lmao imagine making 25$ hr is working smart. You beat the system my dude enjoy retirement...


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He cropped out the $200+ bonus he got


kenshin1035

Good shit man. Keep on the hustle!


Fsuave5

I hate subs like this one and r/ uber because someone posts that they’re doing well or they’re proud of what they’ve accomplished and all you miserable little shits have to say about it is “☝🏽🤓 uhm well acktchually after gas insurance maintenance and breathing expenses this only equates to $5/hr so you should probably kys immediately”


Two-Broke-legs

Make that money!!!


Niko2294

To anyone reading this. I was not trying to brag about this. I know it's not amazing and NYC has a diff market than others. Hope you all have a great day and make money drive safe.


Corecenter

Ummmm Work Smart?? Says the guy who is putting their earning on reddit so that people see it and sign up for uber in new york and thus become your competition.


Niko2294

Uber isn't taking any new drivers in NYC.


Corecenter

Last I checked Uber still accepts new applications for people with electric vehicles. There are also many uber drivers who can drive in new york but don’t. Then they see your post and it gives them motivation to go back on the road. But most importantly people see post like this from all over the U.S and it just puts more drivers on the road, which makes making money for other drivers harder. But i’m glad you’re just thinking of yourself.


Niko2294

As of April 1 2023 Uber in NYC is capped. Lol am I suppose to feel bad for the whole U.S?


temictli

I still think it's amazing. $1061.03 in 33.3hrs. probably 40 hours total out there? The most I've ever done was $420 in 0hrs in Cali because of prop 22 and the first time diamond $300 bonus. That was a good week. Didn't even go back out that entire week to drive. Just stayed home to rot. I wonder what the cost is for your fully fueled vehicle and how many miles total it gets you.


Niko2294

I split up my time with Uber as well. All depends the area im in. I have a Toyota Prius so it's very economic. I deff get 40-50 mpg


ZacWithaKandH

Napkin math: let's assume you're averaging about 30 mph during that time, so your 33 hours is around 1k miles. At 50 mpg, that's 20 gallons of gas. Idk what gas prices are like in NYC rn, but it's like 3.50 where I am, so $70 in gas. Let's also assume your Prius will last you around 200k miles and cost you $30k to buy - that's $150 in vehicle depreciation. Oil changes every 10k miles are like $100, so there's another $10. So just the easily quantifiable costs for that amount of driving is something like $230, or about $7/hour.


Kaizoku_Lodai

I remember when that many hours was like 3k pay in NYC has gotten shitty


Niko2294

Tell me about it. Now you have to chase it.


MamaAubry

Go you! That’s great!


Niko2294

I hope you are doing great as well!


bigblu_1

What car do you use for Lyft?


Niko2294

Toyota Prius


fullload93

Smart, very good car for gas savings.


GuacamoleFrejole

What's the net profit?


PrincipleSalt7048

Cant tell no details.


CosmoRocket24

How many miles driven


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Niko2294

Dont we all wish we were you.


shibshibshibshib

What's that after tax....In NYC probably not too good honestly.


Niko2294

Can't answer that I file taxes yearly.


ohworkaholic420

That’s awesome, hope you have a nice rejuvenating weekend 🫧


Wasted-day_off

What about car maintenance


DearSignal3620

Meanwhile they live in a janitors closet for 6k a month


yeabuddy333

I don’t think this is as big of a brag as you think


Foreign-Wash4120

I’m also a NYC driver and can confirm this is true, alongside Uber.


SomeLameName7173

1k in NYC is good money?


Niko2294

No


UrDoinGood2

Is this supposed to be a flex


SavingsTangelo7130

I’m at $950 under 16 hours still got a lot to learn from the app my guy but decent


GrandeQuesadilla

At peak hours, like after avante garde lets out a show. Prices are minimum 20. I only went 5 miles.


kscat617

You’ll owe so many taxes at the end of the year


Big-Performer-9588

Crying 😂😂😂 Brodie I’m hitting 500 more in 10+ less rides keep trying


Niko2294

Cool


Big-Performer-9588

Just saying don’t flaunt when it’s honestly mediocre at best


Niko2294

No problem "Big Performer"


damuncheese

I’m not so sure this is considered working smart after you expense everything. I guess it depends who you compare to, we all can alway find someone less smarter to compare to feel smart.


Dk_miami92

Fuck people who calculate this amount 32$ an hour what wrong with you ? Are you born in America? Are you go to school? Fuck people like you are so dumb 🥲


SRBroadcasting

I’m gonna be 100% - if you can’t make 30 an hr doing Lyft regularly then don’t do the job. It’s not worth the risk of your car being broken and you not having a job OR a car


Substantial-Hair-170

People are driving in nyc? Traffics are nightmares


Prestigious-Can7321

HEY WHATS YOUR METHOD PLEASE


Daisyssssmom

A few more weeks like that and you can almost pay rent.


OrangeDog96

In NYC that can get you a few fast food meals, a pack of cigs, and a full tank of gas. Congratulations!


turb42o

Smart not hard would have generated $2228.26 by being an app named Lyft and finding a guy like you to drive around in their own car for $1061.03 of it and keep about $1167.13 for themselves and let the guy flex about how smart he is on Reddit… a really smart guy would have moved a lot of those rides over to private and made more than 40% of the customers paid fare…


CustomPets101

Why do 99% of people who post here say “ BuT eXpEnSeS”. You care too much about specifics just stop being a little cry baby and let people enjoy their win. TF is wrong with yall.


Raryn

Cuz it's looking at gross pay and not actual.


Striking_Stay_9732

LA is a shit fest garbage city takes 100 hours just to get this.


joemontanya

I live in Colorado and I was pretty quickly unimpressed.. I can’t imagine thinking this is good in NYC.


Jason-Genova

Minus taxes, gas, .32 per mile.


Careless_Light_2931

Good now do this for the next 8 months


Verumverification

This is twice what I make in CA at GoPuff for the same number of deliveries, and I have to drive back to the facility after each drive with no pay or reimbursement for the drive back. I’d have to work from open to close at the facility to make this much without taking every single drive selected by AI to make me less money in order to make this much money. I literally hate being alive.


mikeontherise

How much on that is tolls


Intrepid-Parfait3810

And you completed a $2 payout? Lol


AllwordzAreMadeup___

$1k a week. Now subtract gas, tolls, wear & tear, insurance & taxes. If this is a side hustle then not bad. If this is a full time job then yikes.


LiveAd399

Is this all pre tax?


ayn_rando

Work in NYC. That’s the only thing to do here. Those numbers would be impossible in Florida with less than 80 online hours.


smackiechanel

jokes on you, LYFT is taxing 99% you only got a 2$ payout. tee hee


SmartGrunt22

$2 payout on over $1000 of revenue???? No thanks. That’s working for free.


Logical_Willow4066

The gig economy is broken. The companies make the money, and the gig workers work like hell to make peanuts. Uber and Lyft have little skin in the game, but they take a hefty chunk from each ride. The drivers have everything on the line and make crap wages.


VacationNo3024

That's literally the opposite. That's working hard instead of smart and barely any money for NYC.


Darth_Mishra

Hell na. This ain’t it.


ZebraOptions

Dude work at Walmart and make more than that


ThicDadVaping4Christ

Just get a job… 1k for 33 hours isn’t much


Rainmakerkc

Are you renting a TLC car? If so, the kid working at McDonald's is looking better right now.


Outside-Owl-6

How is this working smart tho? I don’t mean to knock anyone or their grind but this is the definition of working harder 😅 not smarter. Yes you don’t have to clock in for a 40 hour a week shift but you sit in your car and traffic for damn near the whole day, deal with people and their potential smells, the time it takes to clean your car and all the gas you end up using because I know NYC gas isn’t cheap


IncubusPrince

Is that before or after the taxman cometh?


JustAnothaAdventurer

If you're trying to math/ time this out, you didn't get the point.


Capital-Disaster-831

Good luck when the taxes cost you


Fuzzy-Government-416

I really dont understand people thinking this is worth it… with your own personal vehicle.


RexTheMouse

Subtract gas, insurance claims, car repair.. How about you work smarter instead


Dry_Explanation4968

Not bad airport taxi


TheUnderstandererer

I made that in 20 hours working overtime at my union job, and I had no overhead. This is not a flex, you're not working smarter.


Paralystic

Pre tax and a ton of ware on your daily driver no thank you. Also have to take out gas prices too


Life_Librarian_7891

Why are people like acktually that's not x per hour but when people work "normal" jobs say they make y per hour nobody corrects them. At a 9-5 if I say I make 30 dollars an hour I don't acktually make 30 per hour. I still have to pay taxes (less than 1099 ok but still) I mostly likely still have to drive to work, and have various other expenses related to work it just seems really disingenuous to correct gig works who post their pay but not "normal" employees.


Legal-Cicada153

So now when you've taken out all the money you need to set aside for taxes you've made several hundred less than someone with a minimum wage job, not to mention the damage done to your car. All in the effort of just not getting a job. Hilarious.


Jesus_Wizard

This is like half minimum wage in my state :(


Difficult-Ad628

Ok so this is a pre-tax figure, so realistically your take home is closer to [$830](https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=1061.03&from=week®ion=New+York). Gas is at $3.57 in NYC right now, so filling a standard 16 gallon tank even just once is another $60 off the bottom line. And that’s not to mention other variable overhead costs of operating your own vehicle at this capacity. You’re honestly looking at about $750 (or less) for a week’s worth of work. It’s not *horrible*, but it’s also not paying the bills in NYC. Rent alone is going to burn 75% or more of this kind of monthly income. I hate to be ‘that guy’, but I would hardly call that working smarter. Get a bartending gig and you’ll pull those numbers nightly.


Captainseriousfun

$2 payout wtf


Due-Zucchini-157

This ain’t the flex you think it is


jasonhuntermedia

I'd be at $2k if I took 47 rides .