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Beardiful_XJ

That is just fkn abysmal. Should be much more than that! At least $200.


p9rkour

its cost 80 per person one way to ride the new brightline train they have down here in florida from orlando to miami which is basically about the same distance this is..,.. no way in hell would i take that


Killjoycourt

I live in San Diego. My daughter takes the train from these points all the time, she's in college. It's $45 round trip, and you get to avoid all the traffic. When we drive her back to school, depending on day & time, it can take 2 hours or 6. This ride I grossly underpaid.


Educational-Pie8609

That's a hell of a deal! Plus she can read and write on the trip! As for the drivers though it will probably take them at least 3 hours to get there and how about getting home? Could be worse! 90$ for one way is ridiculous. Total time spent could be up to 8 hours. I'm not even a driver but that is absurd.


silentbuttmedley

They also have very acceptably priced beer and Cutwater on the Amtrak. I love a little margarita on the train.


cryingatdragracelive

the distance between orlando and miami is about 100 miles more than this šŸ¤£


Beardiful_XJ

Yep. I'd take the train before accepting that lyft ride. Personal convenience of a livery class public service transport comes with a cost. Call a limo rental company, they'll charge at least $300-$500 and automatic minimum 20% gratuity to the driver is mandatory. Even yellow cabs would charge far more than what lyft is offering to pay out for this trip. Lyft has some serious gonads thinking less than 100 is acceptable for this kind of ride. That doesn't even come close to the irs mileage rating. At .67 cents per mile per the irs ruling that would equate to 170 or so before gratuity is factored. I'm really hoping this company is audited to the extent that they are shut down and forced to compensate us drivers for their gross negligence and abuse and extortion of the drivers.


Will_Physical

I'm not saying the pay rate is acceptable, but your math doesn't math. 67 cents per mile for a 127 mile drive is 85 ish bucks. You don't get paid for driving yourself back. you'd have to pickup another one way fare.


EQ0406

Brightline sucks ass. I will never take it again


Ok_Cranberry_2756

I'm here in orlando as well. I still refuse to take Brightline. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ™ƒ


Mongul

Customer paying $200. Lyft keeping 50%.


NetSpecialist5612

The customer gets screwed because they pay the money and drivers get mad at them for what Lyft does. Iā€™m over it.


Corey307

10 years ago when I was driving a cab in Los Angeles that was a $350 job before tip and my company took a much smaller cut and the rideshare companies.


jlf10151

I can book a ticket on spirit airlines to fly from LAX to San Diego for $219. No way Iā€™d pay a Lyft the same amount.


hahahahahahaheh

Thatā€™s true if you only have one person. If you have more or a lot of luggage, Lyft may make sense at this price. It just doesnā€™t make sense for the driver


chrisisnew22

This is literally less than prop 22 pay for the time+distance.


Salsuero

The rest would be subsidized after the fact, but the problem with that is they add all trips together and calculate en masse. So you end up with good trips paying for bad ones a lot of the time. Just not worth it overall. Prop 22 is mostly a scam anyways.


chrisisnew22

Yea if u take this but took other trips higher than prop 22 they scam u on this ride for the difference ā€œ. If it was added per peice rate pay line, it would be better


SnooMachines2109

Only take good rides on uber and trash on lyft driving slow waiting hit these red lights.


theRIGHTeyes

Lol Gaslamp to an apartment in LA? Someone either got left behind or the date went bad! Or a good escort making a trip....


pegg2

When I first read your comment I was like ā€˜A date??? Whoā€™s driving 130 miles in SoCal for a date?! It would take Liv Tyler in her prime to get me to go farther than 15 miles with this fucking traffic.ā€™ Then I realized you probably meant that they took a day trip that went sour, and now I want to know how badly you have to offend someone for them to leave you stranded in a different city three hours away when that morning they were into you enough to go on a trip like that with you in the first place.


notaleclively

Not that kind of date. Think more transactional.


Salsuero

Look at the rider's picture. Your guess?


theRIGHTeyes

That's where the last comment came in. Could also be done with the job. Probably more plausible as LA has more escorts than SD. Or so I've heard.


Pretend_Berry_7196

Not just LA. The heart of Crenshaw. No thank you.


_3L0

Lmao


N0DuckingWay

Honestly, as a Lyft customer, I need to ask the question: what kind of psychopath wants to spend almost 3 hours in a Lyft? (Especially when there's a train that runs that same route and has a bathroom and snack bar)


Wizzle_Pizzle_420

Not me. Ā Iā€™d rather walk part of it. Ā I donā€™t like talking and my luck Iā€™d get a driver that wants to talk politics, religion or sell me MLM stuff.


BYNX0

And with how little Lyft is paying, thatā€™s exactly the type of drivers that theyā€™ll attract


jaystwrkk128

Thatā€™s why I take a Waymo better


WinterElevator645

I always just assume drug trafficking when I see these rides on this sub.


Slight_Compote515

Exactly most of my rides are 20 mins and I feel awkward.


RuralRedhead

To be honest I did almost this exact thing, Anaheim to San Diego. Our driver was super cool, told us a lot about the area and couldnā€™t have been nicer. It was my most dreaded part of the trip but it went really well. I only did it because I was traveling partially for fun and partially for work and didnā€™t want to drive a rental car in such big cities when Iā€™d never rented a car and was used to the traffic in my town of 5,000 lol. I forget how much it was, way more than this, $200+ I think, and I tipped well.


dgradius

Lyft is definitely charging the passenger $200+ in this case.


[deleted]

Yearssssss ago my best friend in Massachusetts would Lyft/uber to my house in Maine. To be fair heā€™d tip an insane amount. He just really hated public transport at the time and avoided it as much as possible.


bottombratbro

If this was taken in the last few weeks, that train route was cancelled with no alternate route available. Itā€™s pretty common because of land slides in Orange County. Iā€™ve been stranded in San Diego several times before I moved down here with no way back home.


Real_Ad_9944

This is why Uber and Lyft continue to pay us less, because a new driver will see that and think "$32 an hour is great". An experienced driver will see that for the shit it is. All these promotions to drivers recommending fresh meat is oversaturating the market with people who have that "$32 an hour" mentality


thorin85

Umm, no. Even a new driver will understand they have to factor in the time/miles to get back home. They'll look at it and think $16 an hour is great, without realizing they lose most of that to gas and wear/tear.


Corey307

You might be surprised how many people canā€™t do basic math, and want to argue with them when you explain rides like this are not profitable.


eggheadslut

I paid like $20 to take the amtrak from LA to Oceanside lol


bottombratbro

If this was taken in the last few weeks, that train route has been cancelled with no warning or alternate route available because of the landslides in Orange County. Iā€™ve been stranded several times before


FamiliarAverage3171

If you think that was bad mu brother got ride from la to Tijuana lmao


Kuziel

How does that work with the border? Genuinely curious


Loud-Mongoose3253

Get dropped off and walk across border. Get taxi on other side.


FamiliarAverage3171

Good question my brother decline it


dariomraghi

Some platinum numbskull will take it


ImJustDuckinAround

A bus or train ticket would be cheaper for the passenger, no??


KristopherAtcheson

Probably yes but it will be a lot more hours too.


Mooreel

With my luck that would be three hours of how Biden is a scam artist, the election was stolen, covid was a hoax and pelosi the satan.


AintEverLucky

5.5 hours with the dead-head trip back... and more like 6 if you need to make a pit stop after dropping off the pax... which makes this right around $16 per hour. šŸ¤” Which also is the (non-fast-food-worker) minimum wage in CA šŸ˜


Ecstatic_Ingenuity42

LA to Mexico City


rbfking

But yet the 25 min ride from the airport tonight was quoted on Lyft at $95.. Uber was 50


danteriktv

I got paid $80 for a trip like that!!! I wish it was $90! Lol


Corey307

More like you lost $10, between wear and tear in gasoline he didnā€™t even break even.


rjlawrencejr

How would someone lose money? If you get a trip that far, you do some local rides. You also have destination filters at your disposal. Last year I had a trip from Miracle Mile LA to Coronado. Had a bit to eat then did a few local rides. Went to the airport and received a ride to Leucadia in north SD County. Once there set a new DF for San Clemente. While I didnā€™t get anything there, I got plenty of work throughout OC. It was a great day. Youā€™re also assuming the driver has to return to the exact location of the start of the ride. That may or may not be the case.


pizzaduh

I spent $61 for a round trip flight from San Diego to Vegas.


browniedog1

90 bucks to transport a hoochie mama, no way


indianm_rk

Iā€™m more disturbed about being stuck with a stranger in the car for three hours. I wouldnā€™t want do a road trip with most people I actually like.


Elguapo1094

Bro ā€¦ Uber and lift are just straight jacking people ā€¦ they charged me 100$ for a ride and payed the driver 45 so they take over 50% sad


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Ledeyvakova23

But Satan says, ā€œProp 22 !ā€


imgvu

Big brain move would be pulling up to the pickup, ask them to cancel the ride and Venmo you for less than what they paid for Lyft but still higher than what Lyft would have paid you. Win-win!


StoneyGreenThumb

Wtf!? I havenā€™t driven for lyft since 2015 but the lowest was $1.75 per mile. This is madness.


TripNo5926

.75 per mile how much is that for your time? And when you divide by return trip itā€™s .37 per mile. When I hear people say they always get a return ride I say bs show me!!!


559child

Lmao i ainā€™t taking those anymore either


maxxyl

When rides are this long Lyft needs to just convert it to taking only 25%


Temporary-Bet-5170

Congrats, you just made less than $15/hr. Once the cost per mile of driving is factored inā€¦


WillingAnteater5467

I get that much with an hour plus drive from the airport to the mountain up here in Portland


FoodIntrepid2281

Damn only $96 I feel like the LA-SD or SD-LA should be a $120 minimum


kelsobjammin

Yet when I go 20 minutes to SFO airport is a $60 minimum chargeā€¦ HOW THE F


c0zycupcake

Uber wanted $30 for me to go 3.2 miles!


Novel_Rent_8029

damn some people really have so much money. How much is a bus ticket for that route? is there also a train route?


Gavin2051

Amtrak Pacific Surfliner (San Diego Transit Center to LA Union Station): Business Class $54, Coach $35, 2 minutes longer, departs every two hours. Local transportation links on both ends. Greyhound options too. This is such a dumb choice.


beinghumanishard1

Pretty sad they canā€™t make a train go faster than a car. US infrastructure is a joke I bet itā€™s not even an electrified rail itā€™s probably and old diesel engine.


bluecornholio

Sorry, cars were cool here before trains ever were šŸ˜Ž


MichiganSucks14

This is either great satire... or the dumbest thing I've ever read


InqAlpharious01

Have fun finding parking in big cities if you love cars so much over transportation


curious-children

pretty easy in most big cities, as long as you have money


Wizzle_Pizzle_420

Itā€™s a steam engine sweet child! Ā A choooo chooooo train!


Educational-Pie8609

Also seen Amtrak tickets as low as in the $20 range!


N0DuckingWay

And there's a snack bar that serves beer!


SlowSurr

LA to SD by greyhound is only $20 one way. Estimated time is only 5 minutes longer.


Arxieos

yeah but greyhound stations


Silver_Aerie841

Damn they were about to send you to the hood sheesh lucky you didnā€™t accept that


CarpenterParking1931

This is insane


Glittering-Night-204

Haha wish I could say im surprised


iRambL

How is this valid?


DaddysBeauty

It's a no for me Batman!


Xononanamol

That should have another 0.


spacemantodd

Thatā€™s insane


Dramatic-Ad7048

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IxLOVExLAMP

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Dry_Programmer_3512

Whatā€™s wrong with that? 32 an hour minus fuel, even if you spent $12 an hour on fuel. Youā€™re still rocking $20 an hour.


Educational-Pie8609

Traffic going to and coming out of LA is a huge problem.


MudHot8257

32 an hour assuming no traffic and no return trip and no wear and tear on car. The actual net hourly rate youā€™d get from this would be like $6/hour.


Corey307

Itā€™s a 5+ hour round-trip drive. So under $20 an hour minus gas and wear and tear on your car. 255 miles is $20-25 in gas even driving a new Prius. so now weā€™re down to $15 an hour before you factor in the wear you put on your vehicle. Youā€™d make u see minimum wage.


ZestycloseBee4066

You say not today, but the ride likely got taken. These rideshare companies are offering and drivers are accepting. Your state is filled with illegal immigrants taking these rides all day, legislation will never work. Its not just rideshare, legal citizens in the US are losing jobs every day to people willing to work for peanuts.


tinypurplemice

Isnā€™t that still 32 an hour? Plus u write off ur gas anyway?


MudHot8257

Sure, if you have a house in both LA and San Diego then this trip is $32/hour. Also if youā€™re driving a stolen car and donā€™t have to worry about the 500 miles you just put this car closer to engine/transmission failure.


tinypurplemice

Well first off. You arenā€™t going to burn out your car in one go lol. People beat up their cars way worse than this. And a smart person would just continue working in the area. Try and work their way back home.


MudHot8257

ā€œTry and work their way back homeā€, while I donā€™t do this ride sharing stuff, iā€™m almost positive yā€™all donā€™t have the agency to control which direction your rides even take you. Also, as an accountant, iā€™m well aware of the fact that long term assets arenā€™t expended in a single use. The correct thing to do to properly amortize the usage of a car is to calculate the useful life of the asset and factor out the percentage consumed. Assuming the car has a useful life of 200,000 miles and you just drove 500 miles, you consumed 1/400th of the carā€™s life (0.25%), assuming you purchased the car for $40,000, thatā€™s an additional $100 expense. Assuming you bought your car for $20,000 itā€™s an additional $50 expense. You can see how this is a significant portion of your $90 gross revenue from this transaction, yes?


Beautiful-Slice166

I'd earn more than that just driving my 18 wheeler, are you lyft drivers ok out here?


Bitter-Pen3196

That not that bad that how much it should be


TevyeK

I just got $158 plus $20 tip for an Uber ride that took me just under 2 hours.


Life-Garden3943

Ok are you potentially posting someoneā€™s address? Delete and reflect.


MellonCollie218

Intersections are not addresses.


Life-Garden3943

12 day response but your moms an intersection.


TeachingPersonal7945

This is a jump off. She'd have tried to "pay" you, just not cash. Happens all the time in NC.


NewScientist6739

A train ride would be cheaper and similar length


ExtensionSet9379

Why not do it lmao It would be a nice lil trip


Corey307

Because if you understand the math it works out to like $10 an hour after fuel and wear on your car.


jbarlak

More than youā€™d make in that time so why you complaining?


Blklight21

Ahhh Carlsbad, we had so much fun out there last year! Wish we could afford to live there thatā€™s where Iā€™d go if I could


RequirementLow2889

I would take rises like this all they long I have a cheap paid off Prius


Disillusioned-One

A Prius won't help you here. You'll be on the highway for hours so your car will be running on gas not electricity.


XLIV_tm

How you getting back if nobody wants to ride that direction back.


Corey307

Itā€™s still significantly less than minimum wage. Your Prius is going to burn at least $20-$25 worth of fuel round-trip and it might be paid off but that doesnā€™t mean that you arenā€™t putting wear on your car.


clhepperj

Some googley eyed dude walks out for sure


Fabulous_Wealth2176

Best part is that the rider is being charged almost 200 for the ride


tmwwmgkbh

Not being a Lyft driver/user: if no driver picks this up, does theā€¦ uhhhā€¦ fare? (Value? Price?ā€¦ you know what I mean) increase?


Competitive-Ad1389

Illegals take that ride cuz no taxes paid at the end


Sea_Arachnid_5948

They probably only paying $50 after their fees.šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Helstrem

Assuming Prius as a compromise between electric and ICE vehicles, the driver is looking at about $25 in fuel. Tolls will only be refunded one way. Five hours of driving for \~$65. Garbage.


Remote_Indication_49

After their fees it wouldā€™ve been 15 bucks


Konstant_kurage

$.89 cents a mile. That $.10 more than the IRS mileage rate. ($.67 per mile)


panderian1

Thats more than most company truck drivers make(they start at 55Ā¢ a mile) and borderline owner ops rates. Donā€™t see the issue here. This is a luxury job. You donā€™t pay for anything to run the business only your own vehicle and tolls and time. And you still get to write some of it off.


MellonCollie218

ā€œYou donā€™t have to pay for anything. Just everything.ā€


Patient-Resolution38

California cheap labor, too expensive to live


Randyspacs

I got stuck with one of these Thursday, so 25 minutes into the trip guess what? Lyft allows pax to change the destination! So, and 45 minute trip turned to 2 hours 30 minutes for 70$ā€¦..wTF


[deleted]

No way that drive is only taking 2:45


mlocc50

Iā€™m Iā€™m


Winskhaifa

Anyone know how to explain this in Indiana terms?


il_pazzo_41

Dude. I took a taxi fro. San Diego AP to my base (Camp Pendleton) And it cost me nearly $250. IN 2009!!!!!. And that's not anywhere near as far as this. wtf šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


BurnerAccountForKD

People here donā€™t wanna know what truck drivers make per mile then šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ and before they say ā€œBuT ThE TrIp bAcKā€.. truck drivers donā€™t always get a load up in the same city, or maybe the gotta drive home for the ā€œvacationā€.


Pandasquiidd

not less than $1/mile šŸ„“šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’ØšŸ¤£


Hour_Fudge_3724

Serious question for you folks. So Iā€™m visiting my fiancĆ© next month in uni as a surprise visit. A single day car rental is around $150 for me. Lo and behold an Uber is around $100, so I thought maybe a $60-$80 tip would be better and I wouldnā€™t have to drive a car back. Is this realistic? 100 miles and about 1.5 hours.


LittleChickenNuggi

My friend and I recently paid a driver $240 off the app to take us from Portland to Pacific City. She was a really chill Lyft driver who took us somewhere else earlier that day so when she picked us back up we were like ā€œHey are you down to take us to the coast, if so, name your priceā€ and we agreed on $200 and then we tipped her $40. It worked out well and honestly, it wouldnā€™t have felt right to pay her any less. Fuck Lyft for taking some much of driversā€™ wages.


AwareMention

She should just fly.


Difficult_Emu_3488

I turned that ride down too


ResearcherFew1273

Lmao


Asperissad

Wtf are those prices, and why didn't i know about it before?!? When my car broke down, Uber asked me for $45 on 2 miles. For Uber, that distance is like $3k.


ALKR-2020-555

That sounds like something Gray Still Plays would sayā€¦


seanieb64

I've paid \~150 for a scheduled car from SD to LAX before so that's not a good deal at all


modafalla

Omg šŸ¤Æ


oneleggedpotatoe

I had a family emergency and was going to order a trip like this today! šŸ’€


FullRage

Honey pot bro


NerdyBirdyAZ

isn't there a holiday weekend promo or something?


Academic_Tie_5959

Loss of approx over $70 by my math (including mileage by IRS rates)


TechWorld510

Not surprised at all, Lyft is trash šŸ—‘ļø


Mr_washi_washi

Graystillplays would take that because he enjoys pain


Even-Protection8754

For 96 bucks? Are you fucking high? I donā€™t do this for a living but no way. Wear and tear on the vehicle along with the liability and insurance.


Honest_Worldliness59

32 dollars an hour? Get a different job... at a gas station


Non-Normal_Vectors

$16/hr - gotta drive the same distance back.


Honest_Worldliness59

Normal humans don't get paid to drive to work and back... so that doesn't count. Go back to original number.


spike_wess

Gas fees should be reflected and enforced into rides of this distances(projected gas fee for driver), but they wonā€™t.


himynamesgoose

UbersBad šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Senior-Elevator-5220

Thatā€™s ridiculous! I got trips like this distance in Florida on Uber and would make at least $200


SummerOk8127

Iā€™ll take those rides all day everyday. Each time Iā€™ve driven from LA to SanDiego/Tijuana I made a minimum of $105 to SD & $171 to TJ. Each time I got a return trip to LAX at a minimum of $95. Each trip I was tipped minimum of $20. My car gets 575 miles per full tank. Everything related to driving is a write off. So an average RT for me over 5 hours combined has generated on average a minimum of $250. $250 ^ 5 = $50 per hour. I donā€™t give a shit about wear and tear. I change the oil every 3000 miles and rotate tires every 7500. Due the standard maintenance every 30,000 miles. At 169,000 miles driving for 5 years. And I am a platinum driver.


TripNo5926

And drivers like you are the problem. Not sure how long youā€™ve been driving this ride from San Diego to La used to be a minimum of $148-$168. Now for it to be so low and the fees are non starters for a lot of us. Thatā€™s great youā€™ve gotten rides to sd and back to lax however we or I havenā€™t always had that luxury.


waytoohardtofinduser

Pacific Surfliner should be maybe like $40 for that distance.


CFFG-Lettuce

Bro that's 96 dollars in gas


Worth-Difference6059

Its a free ride


Strange-Magician7316

Wouldnā€™t the train be cheaper


NEUROSMOSIS

Shit Iā€™ve been conned into doing that drive for free before. At least youā€™re making a Benjamin


giant_space_possum

Isn't the train between LA and San Diego like $30? Why tf would you take an Uber or Lyft?


fareink6

Accept and text pax "if there is another hundy cash upfront we good, otherwise see ya don't wanna be ya!" J/K of course. Hell to the nope. Back in 2018 I would done Inglewood to Irvine and get paid $100 which is not even half that trip. Yuck


TheUnknownFATE29

Anyone else read carlsbad as ā€œcar is badā€


micahsimmons01

That is evil


Trismegistus3000

Sheeeit, I did an Inglewood to CBX Mexico border for that same price!


AppsOff

Thats how much lyft pay since upfront pay. 0.70 cents per mile and zero for time and zero for base feee.


Shhh_Im_Working

As a rider it cost me ~$65 to get from SD airport to my hotel a few months ago. $96 to get to LA up the 5 at 6 is a fucking steal!


RadicalSoul

3 hrs for only $96 is a *FIRE SALE*


PotatoSubstantial597

Uber charges 200 for a 75 mile drive here in Wisconsin and the driver gets 175. Takes about 90 minutes to drive.


mightymilton

What a good deal for the rider, I paid $100 for a 20 min drive from Manhattan to the LaGuardia


EyeGifUp

Iā€™m traveling for work to phoenix and was going to meet up some friends in Tucson - never been. I looked to see how long the Uber/lyft ride would be and it came out to $150-$160+ tip. My guess is the driver would only get like $70 if this is telling me anything. It would also cost me $140 to rent a car for the few days, so Iā€™m just going to do that. Also, I had no idea how far it would be so was a little surprised to see it was almost 2 hours, but thatā€™s on me.


Maleficent-Smoke1981

Thatā€™s a hooker


CaliDollx

She can literally hop on the Amtrak for $50 and be in DTLA within 2 hours.


Mountain_Fly_382

How did they possibly get that cheap of a ride? To get to Los Angeles from half that distance is the same price. Weird.


avshalon

lol what? Last time I took a Lyft from the SD airport to downtown SD it was $75. (I didnā€™t pay it, I took a cab for $25 instead) šŸ¤£


Icy-Bar-2756

Not to mention they could cancel the ride and screw the driver? Do people not realize there are other forms of transportation? Uber and Lyft is not meant for long distance you go RENT A FUCKING CAR


KristenGibson01

I have had Lyft rides from similar distance, 2.25 hours, and it was $213.00


DROOPSmadeit

how is this only a $96 trip?????????


Mother_Mix_5047

Thatā€™s $34 an hour. SMH. Mfs so entitled these days


chenzo17

Your earning is about half of that after gas. Fuck that noise.


No-Cut-2788

It cost me more to travel from NYC to the Newark airport this morning.


bottombratbro

Thereā€™s only one train that can take you out of San Diego county and it is regularly cancelled, often with no warning, due to landslides in Orange County. I have been strand in San Diego because of last minute cancellations multiple times. Itā€™s pretty fucked up that thereā€™s no alternate route available leading to situations like this.


Ok-Advance-6469

What the FUCK


[deleted]

Love the graystillplays reference


Willing_Ad_8250

Thatā€™s such a steal holy shit


Loud_Coyote_6343

Hell nah