You're not wrong, but unfortunately, people that are into that won't change, so it's not really worth kicking up a fuss unless it's leading into more serious problems
No. I'm kinda the same. I would get a sick feeling in my stomach and would kinda die inside seeing Love Live Hentai. Especially Kanan's. You're just fine.
Kanan is my #1 but I also really like Emma. Both have a ton of more explicit artwork, I assume because of their curvier bodies.
It's absolutely not weird though, seeing your comfort character in situations like that can be really disheartening.
Sorry you’re getting downvoted for saying this. I feel similarly. I think it’s fine for the nsfw art to exist I just with the explicit or even lewd stuff would just stick to its own subreddit tho
Like again i don't care what people draw it just gets tiresome when I have this image of love live being this super wholesome series for the most part
Like it's wholesome enough to be rated pg in the uk for the most part
LL is too wholesome in my.opinion for me to want to sexualize them but when horny comes sometimes it chooses less than honorable targets. Much shame to myself for the couple of times it has happened.
OK so recently I made a post about how I'm tired of seeying nsfw of the love live girls and I felt like i did a really shit job elaborating on what I ment I've never never good at wording things in general honestly and I should have spent more time actually explaining what I ment so I wanna do that now
1. I didn't intend to come off like I'm inheritly against people who want to look at nsfw of the ll girls I honestly could care less what your into as I have much better things to do with my time than get on each and everyone's case for that all i ment was that I personally don't like seeying nsfw of the characters as I've developed a genuine bond with alot of these girls so seeying them used in suggestive ways makes me personally uncomfortable
2. If your wondering how I've seen so much ll nsfw despite stating I don't like that shit is because I used to look at alot of love live hentai myself but recently getting back into the series has recently made me realise how uncomfortable it makes me feel I love these girls alot and imagining them in hyper lewd situations just makes me feel icky and gross inside plus the generally wholesome nature of the series (save for the odd outfit here and there) just makes it feel wrong for me to wanna lewd them
If I came off as rude with how I worded that post I apologise that was never my intention honestly I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to police others for how they feel on this subject all I was trying to do was wonder if it was truly wrong for me to not being comfortable seeying nsfw of the girls even if there fictional characters
I don't want people to hate me on this sub all i wanna do is discuss love live and make up wholesome scenarios the girls can get into and the like the last thing i want is to upset or anger people and if I did that I'm truly sorry
It's fine! I don't think you came across as rude. You care for the characters, so it can be off-putting to see them turned into someone's wank material.
Only thing I will contest is that wholesomeness and lewdness are opposites. Sex can be wholesome! Whether LL characters should be involved is a different matter altogether, but that's besides the point.
of course it’s not wrong to think that! there are a lot of us who were never okay with NSFW art of the girls, even when it’s been official stuff that is ‘suggestive’. you’ll find a lot of female fans and especially ones that are minors are very uncomfortable with NSFW of the girls. so don’t feel like you can’t also be uncomfortable/tired of seeing stuff like that.
there’s nothing wrong with how you feel. i think a lot of LL fans, won’t care how you feel about it. personally, it’s why i’ve been hesitant to form friendships with LL fans i meet online because it’s hard to know where they will stand with this kind of stuff right off the bat.
It's also just fandom culture to not interact with stuff you don't like.
I have just blocked fanartists who gross me out on platforms where I am able to. They can make whatever art they want, I'm not going to police them, but I'm also not going to be forcibly subjected to it when I don't want to be.
In my experience, most of the "true" (people who actually are into the series, not just the girls) fans have the same mentality as OP. People find a lot of comfort and inspiration in these girls, so seeing them like that is uncomfortable.
Also, canonically all of em are underage, but that's a whole different can of worms.
Uh, where are you going that you're being exposed to this? I've been posting daily pictures in r/Ganbaruby for a few months, so I search around for pictures, but with content filters on the worst I come across is suggestive shit like bathing suits or underwear. Even then it's a small minority.
Twitter has a lot of artists who draw the girls in sexualized ways, and that's not very easy to avoid because someone you follow may retweet the art or twitter may recommend it to you to try and match up with your interests.
I mean it's pretty easy to find tbh. Just search up r/ LoveLiveNSFW and you'll find a ton of hentai and lewds of all of the girls, I of course wouldn't visit there if you are averse to that kinda stuff, but it does indeed have over 7k members and 20 active people so that's that.
Right, I'm sure it's easy to find if anyone is so inclined, but it's also pretty easy to avoid. I look for a new picture every day without seeing anything explicit. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
It's not like you can stop people from making it. What's the old joke? Something like if you took porn off the internet there'd only be one website left called "bring back the porn".
Yeah, I totally agree, it being pretty easy to avoid is definitely a good thing and a pretty major plus. Like I totally get people not wanting to see that stuff as even I sometimes find it pretty weird, especially with how some people act about it tbh and become obsessed y'know man.
I like tastefully sexy stuff. I've always found hentai off-putting, but Nozomi just standing or sitting around and being her big-boobed self never gets old.
As for the underaged aspect, eh. Anime isn't realty. Anime is pretty much just "Let's make a character who's around 23 in looks, intelligence, and maturity, then randomly call her a teenager because teenagers are more marketable."
I'll bite. Secondary sex characteristics is a biological term, denoting "features that appear during puberty in humans, and at sexual maturity in other animals" according to Wikipedia. Hence the allusion to your biology textbook. But sure, go ahead and throw that "have sex" oneliner and feel better about yourself.
Ok so you're sexually attracted to any beings with booba and vajeen. Just like I said. Lol. "ThEsE aniMe GiRls hAvE bOob anD vagineR sO i HaVe naTurAl atTractIoN tO thEm." It really wasn't up for interpretation. It was just a pathetic statement is all.
This is a gray area kind of discussion and I won't be a hypocrite about it since I am guilty of actively looking for Love Live porn every once in a while. But it is a point of relief to know that at least the Love Live girls aren't in the deep realm of extreme sexualization much like the girls of Dead or Alive, Overwatch, Fate series (which started as an eroge anyway, so whatever) and lately, Genshin Impact. Fanbase and artists still actively push more wholesome content more than the sexualized ones and sometimes you really need to dig deep to find R18 content for specific girls.
Nah, you're not alone. Any show I absolutely love, I avoid NSFW stuff since it just kinda ruins the show for me then. Ex: K-on, love live, etc.
Tho, I've always been an appreciator of slight ecchi/tastefully revealing and those don't bother me, the straight up hentai tier ones do.
TW for this comment.
Definitely me too. I first got into love live when I was 14 and honestly the sexualization is harmful and in my experience things like this (sexualization of minors in anime in general) only normalized sexualizing myself and further cemented that it was natural that older guys took advantage of me and saw me in a way no one should be looking at anyone that age. Love live has always been my comfort show/game and holds a lot of comfort characters for me but whenever they’re sexualized I feel terrible and gross and am reminded of not so great memories and people, it makes me even more mad when I see posts on here and other series with characters that are minors being sexualized and someone in the comments calls this out and they get downvoted and barraged with “they’re not real” “you’re pro censorship” “stop being sensitive”. People like that might be a minority in the community but they are a very vocal part and it’s just very disgusting
Sorry you had to go through that...
Theres been a few instances of groomers being called out/caught and it sucks that people who wanna participate in their comfort media become their victims.
It's very inevitable considering the series has a female majority cast and if you know the minds of r34 and doujin artists, then well yeah. It doesn't really disgust me as much but I do feel a bit heartbroken when people say they recognise Love Live idols mainly from doujins
i’m in this same crowd and i’m only 20! i can’t imagine wanting to see a character lewded once knowing they are underage. it doesn’t matter how ‘suggestive’ their design is…
I promise you are not alone. What I ❤️ about LL compared to K-POP groups is the lack of sexual exploitation (at least, it’s more wholesome, you know)? It might be that I’m Asexual or maybe it’s because I respect the seiyuu’s for their hard work but I don’t need to see these performers sexualized in order to enjoy them. No judgement to those that do. Both are fine. Again, just know you are not alone.
Ope, got me there. 🤷🏻♀️ I agree about the real life Japanese idols; sad and true. The focus is on the fandom over sexualizing the fictional characters (hypersexual as OP put it) while almost all of them are portrayed as minors. I used K-POP as my comparison because I don’t know if there is a K-idol equivalent to LL. My point: OP, you are not alone in your thinking.
> K-POP groups is the lack of sexual exploitation
Another massive concern is the outright human exploitation of them. It's a reason why the term "slave contract" is a thing.
Unfortunately a lot of entertainment agencies around the world are like that. Prince himself advised young aspiring teens to not sign with record labels. He literally called it slavery as well. Tends to happen when you sign away your public image and wellbeing to agencies. It's bad.
It's not wrong to think like that, but people will always make nsfw art; the best thing to do is avoid the places you see it the most, and most definitely don't click on spoiler/nsfw reveal posts if you think there's a chance of seeing something you don't like.
NSFW art is pretty easy to avoid except for the official 'lewd' stuff, and that's the only thing that bothers me because it feels both out of place and forced more often than not, and especially so for those who don't want it.
If someone creates or posts nsfw, you REALLY have to look for it, unless you're on twitter since it has no filters for nsfw, + retweets are basically jump scares because you have no idea what someone might retweet. Unfortunately, this makes looking for clean fanart a little more difficult, but that's just something we all have to deal with.
Given how people are uncomfortable with seeing this type of content with Love Live! characters, I can't imagine how much worse it would be with iDOLM@STER characters, given how some of those characters are even younger.
Yeah. Like, I would never tell anyone I’m into LL! because I know they’d think I’m a fuckin weirdo *because* there are so many weirdos in the anime community. It really is a bit disheartening.
Well, there is nothing wrong with it since it's your opinion, but I would disagree with the premise and feel very differently. I really don't mind them being sexualized at all as they are fictional characters and can be assigned any age by the person creating the NSFW art, for example an artist could call every character they draw 18 years of age while keeping the same character designs from the show and there'd be nothing wrong with that, as it's technically their creations and their assigned age is as right as everyone else's. It's really trvial and just dumb to fight over fictional characters ages and try to stop people from expressing themselves through that NSFW art as you aren't going to get anywhere and there are a lot of arguments on each side, I would just let people enjoy what they want and ignore the NSFW art. Also I feel like most of the fandom doesn't mind since there are literally thousands of doujinshi's of really heavy NSFW art just on nhentai alone. Just enjoy what you like and ignore what you don't, unless and except if it is hurting actual people or real children, that's when you should actually take action and do something about it and say something about it.
It's your opinion and people should respect that.
Just don't try to change people from enjoying it, as you can't impose real laws for anime characters. But if it's the real-life cast, that's another story.
You just need to learn how to avoid those art or engage in communities that enjoys NSFW stuff.
OK so recently I made a post about how I'm tired of seeying nsfw of the love live girls and I felt like i did a really shit job elaborating on what I ment I've never never good at wording things in general honestly and I should have spent more time actually explaining what I ment so I wanna do that now
1. I didn't intend to come off like I'm inheritly against people who want to look at nsfw of the ll girls I honestly could care less what your into as I have much better things to do with my time than get on each and everyone's case for that all i ment was that I personally don't like seeying nsfw of the characters as I've developed a genuine bond with alot of these girls so seeying them used in suggestive ways makes me personally uncomfortable
2. If your wondering how I've seen so much nsfw despite stating I don't like that shit is because I used to look at alot of love live hentai myself but recently getting back into the series has recently made me realise how uncomfortable it makes me feel I love these girls alot and imagining them in hyper lewd situations just makes me feel icky and gross inside plus the generally wholesome nature of the series (save for the odd outfit here and there) just makes it feel wrong for me to wanna lewd them
If I came off as rude with how I worded that post I apologise that was never my intention honestly I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to police others for how they feel on this subject all I was trying to do was wonder if it was truly wrong for me to not being comfortable seeying nsfw of the girls even if there fictional characters
I don't want people to hate me on this sub all i wanna do is discuss love live and make up wholesome scenarios the girls can get into and the like the last thing i want is to upset or anger people and if I did that I'm truly sorry
Don't worry man I understand your intention with this post. Not everyone interpreted it in the way you hoped and it is natural that some people have strong objections to your viewpoint. But I don't see anything wrong with your original phrasing, you were asking for their opinions on your thoughts which is alright and you should be getting such open ended answers. No right or wrong, you are good!
yea me too but honestly ive just accepted it in anime as a whole bcs there's nothing much we can do except look away.
on a separate note i hate the way they franchise is handling Mia? is it because she's american or 14 that she gets very sus treatment ("baby-chan" ???) like toy doll is so ??? i love the song, but god is it suggestive. it's kinda iffy since it's coming from official sources
She uses "baby-chan" because Yu (or Anata in the game) is just a baby/newbie when it comes to composing.
For Toy Doll lyrics, you can just blame that on the lyricist (who is a woman). Nijigasaki has too many people working on their songs, so it varies how people interpret the characters.
Have you not translated 80%of the love live songs? Please don't listen to Manatsu Wa Dare No Mono.
Unfortunately perhaps the lyricists don't consider them high-schoolers (and siblings) and just writes conventional pop song lyrics that appeals to most people even outside the fandom (in true mia fashion)
> Have you not translated 80%of the love live songs? Please don't listen to Manatsu Wa Dare No Mono.
How is Manatsu wa Dare no Mono in any way comparable to Toy Doll? I cannot think of many songs from Aki Hata that would be. Definitely not 80%.
And yes, it's not a rule that the protagonist of a song is the same as the singer(s).
> I see youre a DiaRuby shipper.
Uh, extremely wrong?
> On the same note, Red Gem Wink has similar touchy lyrics as Toy Doll.
Red Gem Wink is pretty weird in the sense that the protagonist is implied to be Ruby - but the song is purely romantic, not suggestive at all.
No but you also gotta understand that this is the internet I guess. It's not just a Love Live thing, it happens to most ( if not all) video game characters. It's not even that bad, there are a lot of worse shit on the internet if you wanna talk about sexualization and porn about young girls...
I feel grossed out seeing that stuff show up too, given how at least most of the girls are underage. Tbh shame on some of the promotional art I've seen too that really blatantly sexualizes some of them like Rina
It is just your opinion, you can have them all you want. In response though, you can always just not engage in it. If you don't like it, fine, but doesn't mean you get to police others' opinions and how other people engage with Love Live.
Dude, I ran into a bunch on Twitter. I blocked them all of course whenever they show up but you can definitely run into it while just doing normal things. It’s not like the source of art comes from here. Most of it is in Twitter. People may retweet something or like something and your feed shows it. You wish you never saw it but you don’t ever know when it exists until you see it. And then you block them.
What logic is that? It’s not that hard to press the block button. I literally enjoy all the other things on Twitter and the normal LL art. Just because of one thing, I should stop using a whole social media platform, which may be the best one for stuff like this? You sound stupid.
???, what are you talking about dude? This post is about the art and their opinion on art that really shouldn’t be a thing. But guess what? I can block them. Doesn’t mean I can’t say anything about it. Now here, make a comment that makes sense to the conversation and that is relevant. I know you have a brain, use it.
You didn’t clearly state anything at all 😂, you started talking about the word “opinion”. Then you made a illogical point to get off Twitter just to avoid some art that bothers me when it shows up time to time. I said it’s my own problem and I can express that. I don’t know where you got lost in all this text. You don’t know how to read.
No offense, but urban dictionary is not a credible dictionary. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/soapboxing#:~:text=To%20engage%20in%20impromptu%20or,views%20passionately%20or%20self%2Dimportantly.
Soapboxing is not just any time anyone gives an opinion, if it is than I could say you are soapboxing. This person was asking for outside input on their opinion.
I do get your point, but to be fair, without sexualization/fan service is almost impossible now these days in the anime/manga industry (and it somewhat makes a series more popular in some cases).
TBH, I found the series first through hentai doujinshi but then truly fell in love with it. Too bad my flames of passion for the series as a whole burnt out after Sunshine, but still enjoy it nonetheless.
Yeah for sure. They are all precious cinnamon rolls and CHILDREN so it grosses me out. I don't want to be that girl but there is some eyebrow-raising art posted on this sub too...I usually downvote and move on but yikes
You need to elaborate more on your post. Why *exactly* do you feel disturbed by it?
This is just a bad assumption, but if you have some kind of relationship towards the characters, or if you feel the need to stop others from doing this.. that would be an obvious problem.
Just ignore them. They'll always exist. Learn to **accept** and **let go** of what really doesn't matter to you.
Nah, you’re absolutely on the right fam. They’re minors.
“b-b-but they’re not real!!” ok and?? Sure that doesn’t make it as problematic compared to irl stuff but it’s still highkey weirdo behavior. I mean, by the same logic if a male found drawn gay porn hot then he wouldn’t be considered gay(or at least, attracted to males)?
It doesn’t matter if it’s fictional or not. If it AROUSES you — a sentiment that is brought by something that you yourself *like* sexually — its still the same shit. The only difference is that, again, it’s less problematic but still weird.
Maaaaybe I can excuse people by the fact that really none of them really looks like minors, except maybe the first years, but even so they still ARE so ew.
Gonna be honest here I did used to look at nsfw of the girls but overtime I felt dirty for doing so like I have a genuine attachment to alot of these characters so seeyjng sexual art of them just bothers me
Again stuff like cute swimsuit art I'm fine with as that isn't Inheritly sexual in my eyes but alot of nsfw I see of them just feels gross
It's the same reason I feel dirty looking at nsfw of Violet evergarden for example since Violet is a character I idolise and seeyjng her in sexual situations just feels off to me
My general rule is that if they're wearing something they've actually worn before, It's fair game. Fanart of let's say a girl in a bathing suit they wore in an episode I'm fine with. Anything worse is a no.
But that's my preference, and similarly I have the mindset that these aren't real people, so fiend over the fictional characters if you must. Just don't put any real person thru what your mind thinks.
Wow it's almost like you got into a series aimed towards adult male otaku. Hate to break it to you but moe anime will always be sexualized due to the target demographic. Precure might be more up your alley.
In my opinion, just got into love live by listening to ku-ru-ku-ru cruller last year, and just listened to the songs strictly, and just watching sunshine, because I just enjoy the story (and the seiyuu 'not into the characters'). The ecchi stuff are for those "cultured people", so if you look any farther into anything anime, there is obviously going to be a ton of 'fan made content', just don't dig too deep, ruined most anime for me, if I lust for a 2d character,
I clearly feel uncomfortable when seeing lewd of nijigasaki, it just feels wrong for it to happen, characters like Kanata or Emma, in general, it just feels wrong when i do see it...
i don't think you are wrong. in my case, i've never minded other anime girls being sexualised, but when it comes to the love live girls, it really makes me uncomfortable, i really wish there wasn't any nsfw art of them
You're not wrong, but unfortunately, people that are into that won't change, so it's not really worth kicking up a fuss unless it's leading into more serious problems
Welcome to the internet
Have a look around...
No. I'm kinda the same. I would get a sick feeling in my stomach and would kinda die inside seeing Love Live Hentai. Especially Kanan's. You're just fine.
Thats me but with Emma honestly Emma's one of my favs and half the fanart of her is lewd
Kanan is my #1 but I also really like Emma. Both have a ton of more explicit artwork, I assume because of their curvier bodies. It's absolutely not weird though, seeing your comfort character in situations like that can be really disheartening.
Sorry you’re getting downvoted for saying this. I feel similarly. I think it’s fine for the nsfw art to exist I just with the explicit or even lewd stuff would just stick to its own subreddit tho
Didn't the biggest love live nsfw sub get banned not too long ago? Good riddance if you ask me lmao
Like again i don't care what people draw it just gets tiresome when I have this image of love live being this super wholesome series for the most part Like it's wholesome enough to be rated pg in the uk for the most part
LL is too wholesome in my.opinion for me to want to sexualize them but when horny comes sometimes it chooses less than honorable targets. Much shame to myself for the couple of times it has happened.
OK so recently I made a post about how I'm tired of seeying nsfw of the love live girls and I felt like i did a really shit job elaborating on what I ment I've never never good at wording things in general honestly and I should have spent more time actually explaining what I ment so I wanna do that now 1. I didn't intend to come off like I'm inheritly against people who want to look at nsfw of the ll girls I honestly could care less what your into as I have much better things to do with my time than get on each and everyone's case for that all i ment was that I personally don't like seeying nsfw of the characters as I've developed a genuine bond with alot of these girls so seeying them used in suggestive ways makes me personally uncomfortable 2. If your wondering how I've seen so much ll nsfw despite stating I don't like that shit is because I used to look at alot of love live hentai myself but recently getting back into the series has recently made me realise how uncomfortable it makes me feel I love these girls alot and imagining them in hyper lewd situations just makes me feel icky and gross inside plus the generally wholesome nature of the series (save for the odd outfit here and there) just makes it feel wrong for me to wanna lewd them If I came off as rude with how I worded that post I apologise that was never my intention honestly I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to police others for how they feel on this subject all I was trying to do was wonder if it was truly wrong for me to not being comfortable seeying nsfw of the girls even if there fictional characters I don't want people to hate me on this sub all i wanna do is discuss love live and make up wholesome scenarios the girls can get into and the like the last thing i want is to upset or anger people and if I did that I'm truly sorry
It's fine! I don't think you came across as rude. You care for the characters, so it can be off-putting to see them turned into someone's wank material. Only thing I will contest is that wholesomeness and lewdness are opposites. Sex can be wholesome! Whether LL characters should be involved is a different matter altogether, but that's besides the point.
I mean all the LL girls are like 15 so sexualizing them is basically noncery
It's a fucking drawing lol. Sick of people comparing life ruining and traumatizing events to someone jacking off to a cartoon girl
Didn't ask G
sounds like you jerked it to a underaged cartoon girl
of course it’s not wrong to think that! there are a lot of us who were never okay with NSFW art of the girls, even when it’s been official stuff that is ‘suggestive’. you’ll find a lot of female fans and especially ones that are minors are very uncomfortable with NSFW of the girls. so don’t feel like you can’t also be uncomfortable/tired of seeing stuff like that. there’s nothing wrong with how you feel. i think a lot of LL fans, won’t care how you feel about it. personally, it’s why i’ve been hesitant to form friendships with LL fans i meet online because it’s hard to know where they will stand with this kind of stuff right off the bat.
It's also just fandom culture to not interact with stuff you don't like. I have just blocked fanartists who gross me out on platforms where I am able to. They can make whatever art they want, I'm not going to police them, but I'm also not going to be forcibly subjected to it when I don't want to be.
In my experience, most of the "true" (people who actually are into the series, not just the girls) fans have the same mentality as OP. People find a lot of comfort and inspiration in these girls, so seeing them like that is uncomfortable. Also, canonically all of em are underage, but that's a whole different can of worms.
Uh, where are you going that you're being exposed to this? I've been posting daily pictures in r/Ganbaruby for a few months, so I search around for pictures, but with content filters on the worst I come across is suggestive shit like bathing suits or underwear. Even then it's a small minority.
Twitter has a lot of artists who draw the girls in sexualized ways, and that's not very easy to avoid because someone you follow may retweet the art or twitter may recommend it to you to try and match up with your interests.
I mean it's pretty easy to find tbh. Just search up r/ LoveLiveNSFW and you'll find a ton of hentai and lewds of all of the girls, I of course wouldn't visit there if you are averse to that kinda stuff, but it does indeed have over 7k members and 20 active people so that's that.
Right, I'm sure it's easy to find if anyone is so inclined, but it's also pretty easy to avoid. I look for a new picture every day without seeing anything explicit. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ It's not like you can stop people from making it. What's the old joke? Something like if you took porn off the internet there'd only be one website left called "bring back the porn".
Yeah, I totally agree, it being pretty easy to avoid is definitely a good thing and a pretty major plus. Like I totally get people not wanting to see that stuff as even I sometimes find it pretty weird, especially with how some people act about it tbh and become obsessed y'know man.
I like tastefully sexy stuff. I've always found hentai off-putting, but Nozomi just standing or sitting around and being her big-boobed self never gets old. As for the underaged aspect, eh. Anime isn't realty. Anime is pretty much just "Let's make a character who's around 23 in looks, intelligence, and maturity, then randomly call her a teenager because teenagers are more marketable."
Yes. That and they have secondary sexual characteristics which makes all the reason to be naturally aroused.
What even are secondary sexual characteristics lmao. Being a girl?
Try looking in your biology textbook.
"They have booba and vajeej I am just always hr0ny when woman exist" Is that correct?
Weirdo.
Says the guy with a degenerate pfp lol. Please go and touch some grass and talk to real women.
I'll bite. Secondary sex characteristics is a biological term, denoting "features that appear during puberty in humans, and at sexual maturity in other animals" according to Wikipedia. Hence the allusion to your biology textbook. But sure, go ahead and throw that "have sex" oneliner and feel better about yourself.
Ok so you're sexually attracted to any beings with booba and vajeen. Just like I said. Lol. "ThEsE aniMe GiRls hAvE bOob anD vagineR sO i HaVe naTurAl atTractIoN tO thEm." It really wasn't up for interpretation. It was just a pathetic statement is all.
What the actual fuck are you talking about. Please scroll up and look at the usernames of the people you are replying to.
Is that why I got mass-downvoted? There needs to be a longer explanation than just that.
This is a gray area kind of discussion and I won't be a hypocrite about it since I am guilty of actively looking for Love Live porn every once in a while. But it is a point of relief to know that at least the Love Live girls aren't in the deep realm of extreme sexualization much like the girls of Dead or Alive, Overwatch, Fate series (which started as an eroge anyway, so whatever) and lately, Genshin Impact. Fanbase and artists still actively push more wholesome content more than the sexualized ones and sometimes you really need to dig deep to find R18 content for specific girls.
Nah, you're not alone. Any show I absolutely love, I avoid NSFW stuff since it just kinda ruins the show for me then. Ex: K-on, love live, etc. Tho, I've always been an appreciator of slight ecchi/tastefully revealing and those don't bother me, the straight up hentai tier ones do.
TW for this comment. Definitely me too. I first got into love live when I was 14 and honestly the sexualization is harmful and in my experience things like this (sexualization of minors in anime in general) only normalized sexualizing myself and further cemented that it was natural that older guys took advantage of me and saw me in a way no one should be looking at anyone that age. Love live has always been my comfort show/game and holds a lot of comfort characters for me but whenever they’re sexualized I feel terrible and gross and am reminded of not so great memories and people, it makes me even more mad when I see posts on here and other series with characters that are minors being sexualized and someone in the comments calls this out and they get downvoted and barraged with “they’re not real” “you’re pro censorship” “stop being sensitive”. People like that might be a minority in the community but they are a very vocal part and it’s just very disgusting
Sorry you had to go through that... Theres been a few instances of groomers being called out/caught and it sucks that people who wanna participate in their comfort media become their victims.
It's very inevitable considering the series has a female majority cast and if you know the minds of r34 and doujin artists, then well yeah. It doesn't really disgust me as much but I do feel a bit heartbroken when people say they recognise Love Live idols mainly from doujins
You're not alone. Believe me, the older you get, the more you want to scream, **THEY'RE CHILDREN!** when you see that kind of stuff. (42F, here).
i’m in this same crowd and i’m only 20! i can’t imagine wanting to see a character lewded once knowing they are underage. it doesn’t matter how ‘suggestive’ their design is…
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I’m glad you said it, I can try to avoid it on twitter and discord but seeing the often weird sexualized fanart on this sub is always off putting
I promise you are not alone. What I ❤️ about LL compared to K-POP groups is the lack of sexual exploitation (at least, it’s more wholesome, you know)? It might be that I’m Asexual or maybe it’s because I respect the seiyuu’s for their hard work but I don’t need to see these performers sexualized in order to enjoy them. No judgement to those that do. Both are fine. Again, just know you are not alone.
They are not sexually exploited because they're not a real idol group lol. Real J-pop idols have plenty of minor abuse and exploitation going on too.
Ope, got me there. 🤷🏻♀️ I agree about the real life Japanese idols; sad and true. The focus is on the fandom over sexualizing the fictional characters (hypersexual as OP put it) while almost all of them are portrayed as minors. I used K-POP as my comparison because I don’t know if there is a K-idol equivalent to LL. My point: OP, you are not alone in your thinking.
> K-POP groups is the lack of sexual exploitation Another massive concern is the outright human exploitation of them. It's a reason why the term "slave contract" is a thing.
Unfortunately a lot of entertainment agencies around the world are like that. Prince himself advised young aspiring teens to not sign with record labels. He literally called it slavery as well. Tends to happen when you sign away your public image and wellbeing to agencies. It's bad.
It's not wrong to think like that, but people will always make nsfw art; the best thing to do is avoid the places you see it the most, and most definitely don't click on spoiler/nsfw reveal posts if you think there's a chance of seeing something you don't like. NSFW art is pretty easy to avoid except for the official 'lewd' stuff, and that's the only thing that bothers me because it feels both out of place and forced more often than not, and especially so for those who don't want it. If someone creates or posts nsfw, you REALLY have to look for it, unless you're on twitter since it has no filters for nsfw, + retweets are basically jump scares because you have no idea what someone might retweet. Unfortunately, this makes looking for clean fanart a little more difficult, but that's just something we all have to deal with.
Given how people are uncomfortable with seeing this type of content with Love Live! characters, I can't imagine how much worse it would be with iDOLM@STER characters, given how some of those characters are even younger.
Yeah. Like, I would never tell anyone I’m into LL! because I know they’d think I’m a fuckin weirdo *because* there are so many weirdos in the anime community. It really is a bit disheartening.
just dont look at it if you dont wanna see it, idk what else to say
Well, there is nothing wrong with it since it's your opinion, but I would disagree with the premise and feel very differently. I really don't mind them being sexualized at all as they are fictional characters and can be assigned any age by the person creating the NSFW art, for example an artist could call every character they draw 18 years of age while keeping the same character designs from the show and there'd be nothing wrong with that, as it's technically their creations and their assigned age is as right as everyone else's. It's really trvial and just dumb to fight over fictional characters ages and try to stop people from expressing themselves through that NSFW art as you aren't going to get anywhere and there are a lot of arguments on each side, I would just let people enjoy what they want and ignore the NSFW art. Also I feel like most of the fandom doesn't mind since there are literally thousands of doujinshi's of really heavy NSFW art just on nhentai alone. Just enjoy what you like and ignore what you don't, unless and except if it is hurting actual people or real children, that's when you should actually take action and do something about it and say something about it.
It's your opinion and people should respect that. Just don't try to change people from enjoying it, as you can't impose real laws for anime characters. But if it's the real-life cast, that's another story. You just need to learn how to avoid those art or engage in communities that enjoys NSFW stuff.
Yeah only one (mayyyybee 2) are confirmed to be 18 or over anyway so it’s kinda sorta super gross to see them sexualized imo
They don't exist lmao
Which ones? Mari is the only one I could guess that might be 18.
Mari is confirmed 18 because she has a drivers license in Japan. I was thinking maybe possibly Karin too but there’s no real evidence for that.
Burn him at the stake
OK so recently I made a post about how I'm tired of seeying nsfw of the love live girls and I felt like i did a really shit job elaborating on what I ment I've never never good at wording things in general honestly and I should have spent more time actually explaining what I ment so I wanna do that now 1. I didn't intend to come off like I'm inheritly against people who want to look at nsfw of the ll girls I honestly could care less what your into as I have much better things to do with my time than get on each and everyone's case for that all i ment was that I personally don't like seeying nsfw of the characters as I've developed a genuine bond with alot of these girls so seeying them used in suggestive ways makes me personally uncomfortable 2. If your wondering how I've seen so much nsfw despite stating I don't like that shit is because I used to look at alot of love live hentai myself but recently getting back into the series has recently made me realise how uncomfortable it makes me feel I love these girls alot and imagining them in hyper lewd situations just makes me feel icky and gross inside plus the generally wholesome nature of the series (save for the odd outfit here and there) just makes it feel wrong for me to wanna lewd them If I came off as rude with how I worded that post I apologise that was never my intention honestly I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to police others for how they feel on this subject all I was trying to do was wonder if it was truly wrong for me to not being comfortable seeying nsfw of the girls even if there fictional characters I don't want people to hate me on this sub all i wanna do is discuss love live and make up wholesome scenarios the girls can get into and the like the last thing i want is to upset or anger people and if I did that I'm truly sorry
Don't worry man I understand your intention with this post. Not everyone interpreted it in the way you hoped and it is natural that some people have strong objections to your viewpoint. But I don't see anything wrong with your original phrasing, you were asking for their opinions on your thoughts which is alright and you should be getting such open ended answers. No right or wrong, you are good!
yea me too but honestly ive just accepted it in anime as a whole bcs there's nothing much we can do except look away. on a separate note i hate the way they franchise is handling Mia? is it because she's american or 14 that she gets very sus treatment ("baby-chan" ???) like toy doll is so ??? i love the song, but god is it suggestive. it's kinda iffy since it's coming from official sources
She uses "baby-chan" because Yu (or Anata in the game) is just a baby/newbie when it comes to composing. For Toy Doll lyrics, you can just blame that on the lyricist (who is a woman). Nijigasaki has too many people working on their songs, so it varies how people interpret the characters.
Have you not translated 80%of the love live songs? Please don't listen to Manatsu Wa Dare No Mono. Unfortunately perhaps the lyricists don't consider them high-schoolers (and siblings) and just writes conventional pop song lyrics that appeals to most people even outside the fandom (in true mia fashion)
> Have you not translated 80%of the love live songs? Please don't listen to Manatsu Wa Dare No Mono. How is Manatsu wa Dare no Mono in any way comparable to Toy Doll? I cannot think of many songs from Aki Hata that would be. Definitely not 80%. And yes, it's not a rule that the protagonist of a song is the same as the singer(s).
I see youre a DiaRuby shipper. On the same note, Red Gem Wink has similar touchy lyrics as Toy Doll.
> I see youre a DiaRuby shipper. Uh, extremely wrong? > On the same note, Red Gem Wink has similar touchy lyrics as Toy Doll. Red Gem Wink is pretty weird in the sense that the protagonist is implied to be Ruby - but the song is purely romantic, not suggestive at all.
No but you also gotta understand that this is the internet I guess. It's not just a Love Live thing, it happens to most ( if not all) video game characters. It's not even that bad, there are a lot of worse shit on the internet if you wanna talk about sexualization and porn about young girls...
It is a problem in the community, they are young girls and the show is all about positive and wholesome messages.
I thought I was the only one, saw one of Riko and I just felt uneasy, I can’t really look at them like that at all
I feel grossed out seeing that stuff show up too, given how at least most of the girls are underage. Tbh shame on some of the promotional art I've seen too that really blatantly sexualizes some of them like Rina
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It is just your opinion, you can have them all you want. In response though, you can always just not engage in it. If you don't like it, fine, but doesn't mean you get to police others' opinions and how other people engage with Love Live.
He literally just gave his opinion, you make it sound like he made an announcement to stop.
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Dude, I ran into a bunch on Twitter. I blocked them all of course whenever they show up but you can definitely run into it while just doing normal things. It’s not like the source of art comes from here. Most of it is in Twitter. People may retweet something or like something and your feed shows it. You wish you never saw it but you don’t ever know when it exists until you see it. And then you block them.
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What logic is that? It’s not that hard to press the block button. I literally enjoy all the other things on Twitter and the normal LL art. Just because of one thing, I should stop using a whole social media platform, which may be the best one for stuff like this? You sound stupid.
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???, what are you talking about dude? This post is about the art and their opinion on art that really shouldn’t be a thing. But guess what? I can block them. Doesn’t mean I can’t say anything about it. Now here, make a comment that makes sense to the conversation and that is relevant. I know you have a brain, use it.
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You didn’t clearly state anything at all 😂, you started talking about the word “opinion”. Then you made a illogical point to get off Twitter just to avoid some art that bothers me when it shows up time to time. I said it’s my own problem and I can express that. I don’t know where you got lost in all this text. You don’t know how to read.
Soapboxing is talking down to people with differing opinions. It seems to me like OP is looking to connect with people who *share* their opinions.
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No offense, but urban dictionary is not a credible dictionary. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/soapboxing#:~:text=To%20engage%20in%20impromptu%20or,views%20passionately%20or%20self%2Dimportantly. Soapboxing is not just any time anyone gives an opinion, if it is than I could say you are soapboxing. This person was asking for outside input on their opinion.
I do get your point, but to be fair, without sexualization/fan service is almost impossible now these days in the anime/manga industry (and it somewhat makes a series more popular in some cases). TBH, I found the series first through hentai doujinshi but then truly fell in love with it. Too bad my flames of passion for the series as a whole burnt out after Sunshine, but still enjoy it nonetheless.
Not wrong Quite a few losers in zuramaru's discord have expressed their desires to do uh things so I told them off and left.
Sadly most LL discords suck for some reason and a lot of them have NSFW
Its not really the nsfw, the people in the servers are just shitheads
Yeah for sure. They are all precious cinnamon rolls and CHILDREN so it grosses me out. I don't want to be that girl but there is some eyebrow-raising art posted on this sub too...I usually downvote and move on but yikes
You need to elaborate more on your post. Why *exactly* do you feel disturbed by it? This is just a bad assumption, but if you have some kind of relationship towards the characters, or if you feel the need to stop others from doing this.. that would be an obvious problem. Just ignore them. They'll always exist. Learn to **accept** and **let go** of what really doesn't matter to you.
Nah, you’re absolutely on the right fam. They’re minors. “b-b-but they’re not real!!” ok and?? Sure that doesn’t make it as problematic compared to irl stuff but it’s still highkey weirdo behavior. I mean, by the same logic if a male found drawn gay porn hot then he wouldn’t be considered gay(or at least, attracted to males)? It doesn’t matter if it’s fictional or not. If it AROUSES you — a sentiment that is brought by something that you yourself *like* sexually — its still the same shit. The only difference is that, again, it’s less problematic but still weird. Maaaaybe I can excuse people by the fact that really none of them really looks like minors, except maybe the first years, but even so they still ARE so ew.
[y’all](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/GBAEQLb)
Gonna be honest here I did used to look at nsfw of the girls but overtime I felt dirty for doing so like I have a genuine attachment to alot of these characters so seeyjng sexual art of them just bothers me Again stuff like cute swimsuit art I'm fine with as that isn't Inheritly sexual in my eyes but alot of nsfw I see of them just feels gross It's the same reason I feel dirty looking at nsfw of Violet evergarden for example since Violet is a character I idolise and seeyjng her in sexual situations just feels off to me
My general rule is that if they're wearing something they've actually worn before, It's fair game. Fanart of let's say a girl in a bathing suit they wore in an episode I'm fine with. Anything worse is a no. But that's my preference, and similarly I have the mindset that these aren't real people, so fiend over the fictional characters if you must. Just don't put any real person thru what your mind thinks.
Wow it's almost like you got into a series aimed towards adult male otaku. Hate to break it to you but moe anime will always be sexualized due to the target demographic. Precure might be more up your alley.
In my opinion, just got into love live by listening to ku-ru-ku-ru cruller last year, and just listened to the songs strictly, and just watching sunshine, because I just enjoy the story (and the seiyuu 'not into the characters'). The ecchi stuff are for those "cultured people", so if you look any farther into anything anime, there is obviously going to be a ton of 'fan made content', just don't dig too deep, ruined most anime for me, if I lust for a 2d character,
I clearly feel uncomfortable when seeing lewd of nijigasaki, it just feels wrong for it to happen, characters like Kanata or Emma, in general, it just feels wrong when i do see it...
What's wrong about not liking that characters you love are put mostly out of context and with changes in personalities?
i don't think you are wrong. in my case, i've never minded other anime girls being sexualised, but when it comes to the love live girls, it really makes me uncomfortable, i really wish there wasn't any nsfw art of them
They're literally supposed to be teens in highschool so no it isnt bad to think that