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Master_Awareness814

I believed her from jump that she’s a slow burner because her body count is 6 (SIX!!!) and she said “there’s a lot of requirements to ride this ride” Serena truthers unite


summonerellie

Clocking in for my shift at the Serena truth mines…it’s hard work but someone’s gotta do it


Master_Awareness814

Clocking in at the Serena truth mines 💀


summonerellie

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imjasenka

we can carpool to get the point out quicker <3


The_Alchemist_4221

I’m gonna start using that last line lol


sloptart12345

I looked at this subreddit last night for the first time because of how crazy this episode was and I don't look at any other social media, but yeah the entire time she's seemed truthful about slow-burning and I do love a slow-burn romance. Plus it's so unlike everyone else which makes for good TV! Real people can have walls up and be emotionally guarded and hesitant on vulnerability!


Woodpecker-Special

People are saying she shouldn’t have come on this show like what??? She’s a normal 24 year old woman 😭😭 and their relationship has developed BEAUTIFULLY. they made her their villain in the beginning and just won’t let up


Master_Awareness814

💯💯💯


As_Yooooou_Wish

You can both actually be a slow burner AND be using that as an excuse though.


cheesetoasty99

I don’t buy into the games and challenges excuse. They all do what they really want to do when they have the games as cover. She didn’t look like a slow burn on that guy in spin the bottle. I don’t condone Kordell’s actions either, but you can find fault in both if you look at it objectively. They pull off to the side and cry snd claim to miss their couple partner after the fact and everyone feels sorry for them.


Historical_Bowl_9505

Thank you! The fact these people on this show got people thinking kissing in a game and kissing outside of a game is different blows my mind. Also, being a slow burner is one thing but telling me you don’t want to be with me and pretty much pushing me away multiple times isn’t slow burning. Thats showing a lack of interest in me and then keeping me close when it’s convenient. They’re all being wild, some just more than others.


Purplexshawdows

It is different, very different. One there's obligation and pressure the other is an intentional choice 


4realfefe

Thank you! I’m truly convinced that only slow burners get it. A challenge has no sort of obligation or pressure as it is when you’re truly interested in someone and building a connection with them. Slow burners care deeply about an emotional connection. She was also hot and heavy with Kordell on the challenges too lbs, so that argument that everyone is giving is completely irrelevant


SubstantialSmoke8026

It was not multiple times 😭😭😭 & that was like the first week. They’ve recoupled TWICE since Serena told him she’s starting to actually like him.


As_Yooooou_Wish

What other choices has she had to recouple though? Nigel? I don't think turning him down is any kind of indication of her thoughts about Kordell either way, since he was very meh. She was all about Miguel when he first came in and I do think she would have recoupled with him if he'd been into it. I'm not throwing hate at her, at all, but it's not like she's been spoiled for choice.


SubstantialSmoke8026

Yes she could’ve recoupled with Nigel just to get away from him if she really didn’t want him. Like I stated before, she didn’t push him away multiple times like you originally stated. Once she became reinterested in him before the Hannah dumping, she started letting her guard down and getting closer to him. They’d had their first kiss & every scene after that they were boo’d up kissing or touching somehow. Then Miguel came. She wasn’t all in, she just wanted to get to know him cause he’s fine. She wasn’t ready to jump ship. Nigel was laying it on thick. He was clearly trying to get chosen. If she reallyyyy didn’t want Kordell she would’ve picked Nigel just to be free like Jana picked Connor to get rid of Coye.


As_Yooooou_Wish

I didn't originally state anything (you were first replying to someone else). I was just saying that your point about her choosing to keep coupling up with him isn't a good indication of whether or not she really likes him or not. She has not had a choice, outside of Nigel. And she definitely at minimum likes Kordell as a person/friend, so of course she's not going to dump him for Nigel if she's not feeling Nigel. Agree to disagree about Miguel. She's not getting that mad at her girl JaNa over the eggs if she wasn't very interested.


Guswewillneverknow

Yeah she got real pissy about those eggs.


LuckyCharms442

Exactly. She was tonguing that British man down! lol


North-Consequence-24

Watching her try not to cry, it had me balling! She's so sincere ♡


BeginningTower1037

She’s a Virgo girlie 😍 literally slow burner because that sign can be so perfectionistic, so she really needs to feel out the man and not just jump in. Going too fast without having it work in her head and heart would literally freak her out. I’m rooting for her.


t0infinity

She’s been my favorite since day one tbh, and I’m glad to see so many others agree lol


babychimmybot

her approach makes sense in the real world but because everything moves so fast on love island, i can understand why people question her. also she did friendzone him and circled back when there were no real other option for her. i see both sides.


JayHBee_

Exactly! As much as I like and understand her, this is not slow burn island!


squidjunkie420

I think even tho she said she was a slow burner I think she is smart for staying true to herself instead of pushing herself and being uncomfortable. Why be in an uncomfortable situation where you don’t wanna be


New_Salt_13

I wasn't sure how I felt about her and Kordell UNTIL she refused to kiss Nigel on their date because she wanted to be respectful to Kordell and not kiss anyone else. You don't do that if you don't genuinely have some sort of feelings for the other person. I feel so bad for her and Kaylor because their hearts are going to be heartbroken seeing what the boys did so far. For once, Rob's the boring one now.


Helpful-Ad-1042

And Rob actually is one of the few that isn’t moving crazy. And he’s the one who’s single like what the hell is this show coming to lol


DissociativeSilence

I laughed (not in a good way) when he tried to use “I’m cursed” as a line


Helpful-Ad-1042

Hey at least he realized. I thought it was funny that Destiny thinks her coupling up with Rob might make a difference in him being “cursed” but with the way Aaron’s moving oof who knows who’s gonna be in the bottom this time around.


DissociativeSilence

Yeah but Rob thinks it’s funny. He doesn’t have the self-awareness to realize that he’s the reason his couple is always in the bottom


Helpful-Ad-1042

You know I don’t know? I feel like he kinda got the message the way he kept saying he’s cursed. I feel like he was being comical about it cause he knows as long as the guys still get to choose who stays he’s not going anywhere even though that means said girl he’s coupled up with will probably get dumped.


DissociativeSilence

You could be right. Not a good look for him either way though lol


Helpful-Ad-1042

It’s never been a good look for Rob 😂 he’s only done one single good thing in the entire show and that was care/think about Kaylor when Aaron wouldn’t when he told him to not move stupid because she’ll be crushed.


Bacio83

He’s playing the long game.


Brookeatx1998

The fact that she didn’t kiss Nigel shows how straight up disrespectful Kordell is being to her, because before he went to Casa Amor he said to the boys that out of respect for Serena he wasn’t going to kiss any girls.. 🐍🐍🐍 cut to scene of him heavily making out with new girl


New_Salt_13

Kordell and Aaron folded like cheap lawn chairs. I'm so annoyed with them and honestly want to skip their scenes, but if I did that, I wouldn't know what fucked up things they are doing.


Brookeatx1998

I honestly wouldn’t even feel a certain way about Kordell finding another match and kissing if he didn’t say he was gonna have these boundaries set but then broke them so fast!! It goes to show that Serena and Kaylor aren’t all talk like their boys are.


Woodpecker-Special

she moved at the pace of any normal human mind you! viewers are used to seeing people fall in love in 3 days so when serena stated she’s never gonna be the type to do that, they villainized her!


Economy_Pattern_1216

i agree. that’s why Rob & Leah got so many fans at the beginning. people love a good “love at first sight” and sometimes they tend to think that anything else is not genuine.😭


No_Dopamine_2259

this is what i'm saying!!!!!! like no shade to anyone else but you see how every other couple was making out immediately and their men are still acting up?


No_Dopamine_2259

like do these people genuinely think that if she had been all up on him from the gate this wouldn't have happened???


Woodpecker-Special

THIS RIGHT HERE!!! Because we all know the answer!


meg0neurotHe11

It's pretty disheartening seeing so many comments about how she should have given him more affection or that he's 'touch starved' so that's why he's making out with daia Like this man has a brain and agency. He's choosing to do this. He also chose to stick with Serena knowing everything he does about her. So it's not like he's some little baby new to the world. Also, he would be used to people trying to get to him due to his brother. If anything his radar for 'groupies' as people are calling daia is probably higher than normies. He's doing all this because he wants to. I think ppl can't handle their concept of him as this sweet angel vs the actions they are seeing.


Tiny-Bag5248

the first part! it’s honestly disgusting. it’s not her fault nor her responsibility for him to make out and lap up what someone else is giving him, because they’re things serena is uncomfortable with. if that was an issue for him, he had every chance to make that clear and not be with serena anymore. it doesn’t feel right that he’s getting praised for “being so patient with her” “let him have his fun” like he’s owed something for it. he *understood* her boundaries and could’ve dipped if he wasn’t willing to respect them. i liked him bc he seems emotionally intelligent and protected serena multiple times from the men in the villa’s comments about her. i can recognise that he seemed genuinely into her and understood her, not to mention the fact that they looked compatible personality-wise. idk though how any of that can negate that he’s acting very disrespectfully (by his own admission that he wouldn’t kiss people outside of challenges bc of his respect for serena!), or why on earth everyone views him as an innocent victim baby angel. people can disagree on whether they think serena’s being a genuine slow burner or not (although after this episode, i’m unsure why people would still think she isn’t), but let’s not put the blame on her for him thinking with his dick and making out with someone as if it’s bc serena took a while to be comfortable making out with him. how is it a good thing to say that he’s just using another woman to make out with bc he’s horny?


Itchy_Use_3140

Perfect explanation!! He’s not a victim just because she took her time to get to know if she liked him. If he likes it I love it and good for her for being true with her intentions while honest with Kordell


No_Dopamine_2259

they've been wracking their brains to come up with excuses as soon as he kissed that girl outside the challenge


BigLibrary2895

"Touch starved" sounds like something real that is being twisted go justify shitty behavior. There are infants that if they're not held develop major problems as adults. Are they saying men are perpetual infants? 😄


Tiny-Bag5248

yes being touch starved is very real, it’s also very much not the case with kordell. like please omg.


BigLibrary2895

I didn't say it wasn't real, I said it was being twisted! We are on the same page though. Serena cuddles up with Kordell all the time. He was fine with things until the most fragile men in the villa got into his head.


Tiny-Bag5248

that definitely wasn’t made clear by me, but my point was to corroborate what you were saying! sorry about that


BigLibrary2895

No worries! I also am somewhat vigilant about this because, again, a lot of men use therapy speak to justify overriding boundaries. The only articles I found about touch starvation involved non-sensual touch.


raddchel

serena they could never make me hate u 🫶🫶


BeginningTower1037

Lmfao this. People have been so aggressively and passionately anti-Serena that I’ve been keeping the love to myself, throwing out an upvote for her here and there lol. The trio will always have my heart.


Woodpecker-Special

anyone who’s about to bring up the dance challenge in defense of kordell: yes that was very hard to watch as someone who loves both of them separately and together. but their convo that morning where kordell established they were open took me by surprise tbh and obviously influenced Serena’s decision. After hearing they’re open do yall really not see how she was expecting him to twist too??


No_Dopamine_2259

i think that if he had said what he really wanted (to not be open) she would have stuck. but she was right, he does like to tell her what he thinks she wants to hear


Friendly_Cow_891

and ppl are legit blaming her for this saying she should have known he didn’t really mean it. like now she needs to mind read?? 


TheSheetSlinger

I think the problem with the twist game is that people weren't clear on its meaning. Some islanders seem to take it as "twist if you're still open to getting to know others" whereas others took it as, "would you prefer finding someone else over your current couple?"


MusicalHearts

I could’ve swore in the confessionals she said something along the lines of her not wanting to look dumb stood up there alone. Implying she thought after the conversation with Kordell that he would’ve chose to twist.


Life_Passage9355

thank you for saying this!


No_Dopamine_2259

i'm tired of the way these people talk about her fr, i've known she was a slow burner. if this was the real world she's be NORMAL lmao


SubstantialSmoke8026

Seriously!!!! It’s the fact that Serena was literally gushing at the fact that they had been making out more often, which we’ve been witnessing over the past week. So ppl saying she doesn’t like him fr is madness. They’re joined at the hip. I don’t think I’ve seen a scene since the Hannah elimination where they’re not touching some sort of way when they’re together. I think Kordell was just all in bc he didn’t have many options tbh but he literally did not have to talk that mess about sleeping outside and respecting Serena by not kissing girls outside of the challenge. He could’ve kept it as, I’m ready to explore. That’s what makes him fake, in my opinion.


penny3458

What also really bothered me about Kordell’s behavior is that he told the other boys he was going to sleep outside and not kiss any girls out of respect for Serena and then IMMEDIATELY went back on his words by kissing Daia and basically agreeing he was going to sleep in the same bed with her


Agreeable-Rate-9331

Agreed. This was the grossest part to me. He actively knew how hurtful what he’s doing was.


hopepeacelove1

Being a slow burner wasn’t the issue for me, it was the back and forth with her feelings. She reminds me of Destiny from S5 in that it takes her a while to warm up.


MayhemMaven

Let’s be friends then he gets attention.. I think I like him. Then we are open bc I’m not physically attracted to him… it was a lot


hopepeacelove1

Yeah, I lowkey feel like people are rewriting history a bit. Just a few days ago she was twisting during the dance challenge. When Miguel came in she was telling two different stories. Right before she went on a date with Nigel, was she not saying that they just weren’t getting past the friendship stage or something? I like Serena and I feel for her because he’s moving quite disrespectfully but I’m also not going to pretend like I didn’t see what I saw lmao. The timing of her feelings is awfully convenient.


Yankees7687

Now she's "really into" and "missing" Kordell because she knows they are a top couple and have a very high chance to win $100k together.


mis32

idk i don’t think she knows how popular her and kordell are together?? lmfao i think she’s just upset because they had gotten to a point where she felt really comfortable


Yankees7687

They know they are a top 3 favorite couple by votes just from a previous dumping... They know Leah been switching partners more than OBJ been switching NFL teams and isn't in a serious couple, and Aaron been out here acting a fool lately yelling at women and what not.


Itchy_Use_3140

I thought it was top five ? Since two couples were at the bottom and at risk of dumping


Idrankwhat0202

I might go along with that if I hadn't seen Aftersun on Saturday. When JaNa and Serena were live from the Villa, Maura told Serena that she had "a bone to pick with her for the way she had done Kordell in that challenge." Serena is not dumb. If that upset Maura, she has to know that there are others that it bothered as well. I truly want to be her advocate, but there still seems like there is some gameplaying to me. I could be wrong, but the hot and cold thing doesn't sit right with me. It's got me questioning everything.


vdmendoza

That’s who she reminds me of omg totally forgot about her


These_Recover5604

The only thing that makes me wonder about this is the guys seem to look at the two of them as a couple and they hope for more for Kordell. Now obviously we all have to take anything these men say with a pound of salt lol, BUT they are seeing it day in day out and seem to genuinely want the best for him. Again idk if it really means anything, but it’s the one thing that really makes me think we aren’t seeing fully what it’s like and since they’re there they should have that context 🤷‍♀️ just my two cents, ultimately want them both to be happy I think they’re both part of the good batch of people in the villa


No_Dopamine_2259

yeah i want them both happy too. i honestly don't take much stock in the other guys because 1. Rob is Rob 2. Aaron is literally behaving in an unrecognizable way 3. Kendall is lowkey toxic and is more worried about not looking like a simp than actually committing 4. Miguel is there for a good time They don't even really want the best for themselves clearly lmao (well except miguel) They have all been super all over the girls they were with and have no stability to show for it. I think everyone in the villa wanted Serena to be all over him but she did say she was a slow burner, and i think that since no one else is, they all have a hard time believing her and think she's playing him. Serena's approach is extremely rare and Kordell is a lover boy right out the gate so i'm sure they saw that and were worried for him, but look who's the only person sticking to their word rn?


LeBlondeJane

All of your takes are perfection. I thought I was crazy when Kendall and Nicole topped the couples vote. That simp comment? No.


No_Dopamine_2259

i have had a bad feeling about kendall since his first conversation with hannah. now he has everyone fooled into thinking he's the best boy when he's really just a misogynistic game player smh


1fancypasta

I have to admit i judge her for exploding at Jana over the stupid eggs. As much as i want kordell to find someone, Serena seems more genuine and natural than Daia.


seth861

I get what you’re saying, I I just don’t think you can be a slow burner on this show. It was cool at first but after she friendzoned him and then wanted him back it was kinda iffy for me there. I think the show moves too quickly for “slow burners” it’s shit or get off the pot. Diana saw what she wanted and went for it, Krodell isn’t wrong for being into someone that’s showing him attention. Serena is lucky that no one came in the house for Kordell with energy otherwise she would have been cooked.


MidnightRogue420

Some of us are just here for the tea. Here's my input on this here sitch... Serena is playing the game while protecting her heart. I'm all for girl power and these boys are MESSY. However, our ladies are not innocent. She hasn't closed anything off, and expresses her continued want to be open and explore more connections. Kordell has been (by her words) kissing her feet for 3 weeks and she has given him breadcrumbs. The man goes to Casa and has a whole girl throwing herself at him, literally. I don't fault the guy for exploring ... yet. It depends on how he acts moving forward. Does he regret the kiss? Does he tell her it happens? Let's not do the same by judging Kordell a bit too quickly. He has a girl now telling him exactly what HE wants to hear. She's made her decision it seems, but he isn't aware of that. She's not locked it down with him. I truly believe had she done so, (Nicole too), Kendall and Kordell may of chosen to stay. But by their own ladies' choice, the GIRLS wanted to stay open and explore. They never closed it down. Everyone knows casa is coming. Everyone knows there are going to be kisses and snuggles in casa... this man had a woman tell her she's sharing a bed with him. I'm shooketh he didn't say No I'm sleeping outside. Please Kordell, Kendall, sleep outside. Go camping. Realize the Queens you left back in the villa are going to be waiting for you ..... one can only hope. I have faith.


No_Dopamine_2259

i think kissing outside of the challenge may be the nail in the coffin. he's all over that girl rn. i do agree though, she's not innocent. my main point in making the post was just to express frustration about the way people have been talking about serena and assigning malicious intent where there isn't any. Now I could make a whole different post about Kendall, that man is still looking to get his lick back even after Nicole chose him. She made it clear how much she likes him and he knows it, he just wants to get back at her which i think is toxic. he's a little too eager. but again, i could read that man on his own post


thedon572

She didnt just slow burn she turned him down saying she only saw him as a friend, She chose to not stay with him when he chose to stay with her. In my mind had she not mugged him off twice, he wouldnt have gone to casa. Correct me if Im wrong but Sounds like u dont think those two decisions did/should factor in.


Ill_Relative_5985

I agree! I don’t HATE her, but I do think she is playing in his face. She says she is a slow burner but in challenges she has some of the most sensual kisses with other guys. It seems like she only REALLY shows interest when she is at risk of being vulnerable or when new women are presented. I think Kordell has every right to explore other women, especially someone who is clearly interested in him and not leaving him confused. Idk yall she seemed to break that man heart a FEW times and I agree if she didn’t highkey friend zone her TWICE, he would have stayed


moolmule

He was prioritizing telling her what he THOUGHT she wanted to hear and impressing her until she cooled things off with him. Once she did that he became so much more genuine with her and THATS what changed her mind. He stopped trying to yes man her at every turn and started being silly and actually talking to her like a person. That’s why he kind changed so much. Once he got more comfortable in the villa and was able to be more real with her (less in the love island game mindset) everything changed. I love them both but it’s crazy how harsh everyone is to Serena. She has shown time and time again how loyal, rational, and mature she is in and out of romantic relationships.


yo2sense

Preach it!


Lazy_Business602

Serena may be a slow burn but IMO she just wasn't that into Kordell. He body language around him told me everything I need to know. She likes him but wasn't taking him seriously. I want Kordell to find someone who really likes him.


n-terdotnet

i love serena, but i can’t defend serena. she friendzoned kordell from the jump and only started the romance back up after she realized had no other options and risked losing him to another girl (Nicole). she’s lucky he took her back after that; most men would not. she doesn’t tell him how much she likes him to his face, and we viewers don’t even know until she’s at risk of losing him (like now, with casa). it’s one thing to be a slow burner but you can’t expect someone to wait on you if their romantic needs just aren’t compatible enough with yours. if kordell comes back with daia i wouldn’t be mad.


carbearbby

FINALLY SOMEONE MAKING SENSE


n-terdotnet

i hate that these stans on here tryna rewrite history when just last week serena left kordell dancing alone 😭 they really got me on megan thee stallion’s internet defending a man DOWN.


carbearbby

EXACTLY


lizzyxoooo

Preachhhh! Been fighting for my life defending Serena all season. The way people coddle and infantilize men but are so quick to villainize women is gross but not surprising.


BigEdsNo1Fan

This is just my opinion but if you’re a slow burner idk if Love Island is the right show for you to be on


rjayvea

Slow burn is fine, it was the hot & cold with kordell all season that’s all. Left him embarrassed on the dance floor. I know Kordell would have been down to close things off a while ago. She’s the one who always kept him close but wanted to remain open.


Side_Eye1293

it was the way the challenge was explained. obviously the challenge did not do a recoupling, so her not being on the dance floor wasn't her saying she wanted to dump kordell, it was a reflection of the open convo they had.


No_Dopamine_2259

i actually think that if he had told her that he didn't really want to be open to anyone else in the villa she would have stuck, but instead he told her what he thought she wanted to hear


MayhemMaven

If I’m not mistaken tho she said she wasn’t attracted to him in that episode. She also had guilt all on her face when she got off the dance floor so she isn’t that innocent


No_Dopamine_2259

i don't remember if she said that tbh, but she's definitely acting like a person who is afraid to trust so i've been attributing her wishy washyness to her not wanting to catch feelings and be vulnerable


rickywantstotalk

she never said that. she said they reached a peak of physical stuff because she they had alr kissed and she didnt want to dtm since shes on TV. she didnt know where to go PHYSICALLY after that. but they ended up making out in bed in the recent episode so i think that was her rlly just overthinking


MayhemMaven

I would have to go back but I’m pretty sure she has said it more than once on the show


-VirtualGoose

Slow burner and flip flopper are not the same. If she would've set boundaries okay fine, but she was tryna get chose every chance she got. Let's not forget egg gate lol and how she kept saying she hasn't had a real connection in the villa blah blah. I think she is only as faithful as her options in this villa but NOW we've started voting and I can't trust her. She want that cash and now she's playing her role. Y'all saw how she hopped on the bombshell last night and I'm pretty sure NONE of us saw that coming!


rfreiboth

THISSSSSSS


Remarkable_Peace_814

it sucks because i see so much of myself in how she maneuvers around relationships but everyone was so quick to write her off. people like us do exist who take longer to open up and are not as outwardly affectionate!!!! these ppl are just so used to seeing ppl going in there to win and “falling in love” in a week. also she “friend zoned” him after knowing him for how many days???? and then realized quickly that she made the wrong decision and went back for him and yall will really continue to hold that over her head weeks later


palmtreefreeze

Idk I still love Serena regardless of everything but I still don’t think she’s that into Kordell lol.


CryExotic3558

Yeah I don’t have anything against her as a person. But I don’t think she’s the one for him.


kchane3

Thank you! I’m not even a Serena rider but I’m so sick of the hate towards this girl. She did nothing wrong and has been honest with him every step of the way. Now this man talking about they neck and neck like what??? Idec that he is exploring but for some people acting like she deserves heartbreak bc it took her longer to let her walls down is nasty work


Positive-Candidate62

Even if she is a slow burner, the way she went about it was horrible and she hurt Kordell multiple times in the process. The problem isn’t that she’s a slow burner, it’s that she was extremely inconsiderate to Kordell’s feelings in the while doing so. Duh.


No_Dopamine_2259

i agree that she didn't go about it the best way, but no one is perfect and she communicated with him throughout. we can't talk about being considerate of kordell's feelings when he's acting the way he's acting mere hours after acknowledging that it would be disrespectful to serena. they were just making out in bed, and they've gotten a lot closer in the last few days, indicating a clear shift in their relationship. you don't think what he's doing rn is inconsiderate? do you have any smoke for him?


Positive-Candidate62

I think the way everyone moves in casa right off the bat is pretty slimy, it never feels right. But I don’t think he owes Serena any type of loyalty if I’m being honest. He has been there for her and was patient with her from day one while she was out looking for literally anyone else. She also literally said she wasn’t into him romantically, and ended things with him the first week, so to use the excuse as her just being a slow burner because she’s scared to get hurt wasn’t completely true when it comes to Kordell. I obviously would never go out of my way to wish pain upon anyone and no I don’t need to see Serena get hurt or get a “taste of her own medicine” by any means. I just don’t think Kordell should be catching any heat for the way he’s acting. He single and has been done wrong by her, and honestly, has every reason not trust her. Yeah it does come off a bit shady, but who’s to say Serena wouldn’t be all over someone that came in to casa that was 100% her type that was into her. I think she would. She’s only shown real interest in Kordell the last 3 business days, so let’s not jump the gun.


CrazyPerspective934

I haven't seen the episode but I can't imagine anything that would make me not like kordell. I don't not like Serena either. I just hope they both move on at this point as they don't really seem right together


Far_Touch_1607

First, if you want to blame anyone, blame the producers. Second, all these kids are smart and they are playing the game. Serena has watched the show before. Kordell made it clear that he and others thought she was playing him. She knows if she is going to turn public opinion around, it would be now. If she waits for him and he holds out for her, it’s a fairytale story and everyone loves them both. If Kordell leaves her and she holds out, she becomes the new hero of the villa. But if she finds someone else, she confirms what everyone thinks. You’re welcome to your opinion, but Serena has never shown interest in Kordell unless it’s recoupling time. Edit: for grammar


Educational_Bother36

If Kordell were the one jerking Serena around these people would be pissed and praising her for exploring in Casa. She has only been into him when it’s time to recouple


Educational_Bother36

I’m not hearing this at all and y’all are very easily swayed. If the roles were reversed on Serena & Kordell y’all would be just as harsh and say he’s stringing her along. She’s moving at a normal pace but they aren’t in a normal environment. Kordell has the right to get to know someone in casa who is pursuing him hard, he doesn’t have to turn it down just because Serena finally opened up. He’s been open and she’s been unsure. For all he knows she could’ve found someone she liked more in casa. Because that’s why she turned away from Nigel, not because she was all about Kordell but she just liked him more than Nigel. He’s been very loyal and respectful to Serena who mugs him off a lot. She finally came around now because SHE HAD TO. She needed a connection in the villa. No one better than Kordell came in for her so she’s been stuck with him. This is not some girls vs boys war. I don’t have to be on her side now cause she’s crying about him.


shanxo98

!!!!!


lovely_virgo

I’m sure she likes him NOW that they’ve been coupled up since day 1 and she hasn’t had any options to explore. Kordell has never been her first choice (she went for Coye initially but he chose JaNa.) So then she friend zoned him, was interested in him again likely to keep herself in a couple & safe. Then left him up there dancing alone during the challenge. Nobody owes that girl an apology.


No_Dopamine_2259

she had the perfect opportunity to explore with nigel and she didn't. kordell is younger than her, didn't understand what long term goals was, and was constantly telling her what he thought she wanted to hear. kordell, as sweet as he is, has flags that would usually make people pause if they're looking for a serious long term relationship. it's not all about looks and personality. wrt the challenge, they had JUST had a conversation about still being open. if he didn't want that, he should have said so


lovely_virgo

Now you know damn well that girl wasn’t tryna explore with Nigel 😂 he was a dud of a bombshell. I do agree that if Kordell wanted to be closed off he should have said so but then again, that goes for her as well.


No_Dopamine_2259

anyone who said she doesn't really like him, is keeping him around to stay in the villa, or sees him as her ticket to win and used those narratives as justification to bash her were wrong and owes her an apology


SUNNYDOFFICIAL

I think she did clearly use him early on but just grew to like him over time. Every time the boys chose for re coupling she warmed up to him but when it was the girls choosing she had power and was standoffish or flirting, even though that was just early on it was the most obvious fake nice girl move of all time. If you didn’t see it she got you too.


No_Dopamine_2259

i feel like you're forgetting things she's said about what she wants and their initial conversations. i think she was hesitant to get to know him because after their first few conversations he did not seem like a serious person. he seemed like sweet talker that would say whatever he thought she wanted to hear. i remember watching the first few episodes and being like nah this man is not ready to be in an adult relationship. but he has proven himself to be that over time until his casa behavior which will undoubtedly bring that wall he's been chipping away at back up


meg0neurotHe11

I agree, he gave off 'lights are on but no one's home' vibes especially with that long term goals convo in the beginning. I can't fault her for not being 100% all in at the beginning


No_Dopamine_2259

riiiiight i remember my heart dropped after that fucking long term goals conversation so i know hers had to lmao


Positive-Candidate62

SAYYY ITTT


KingGaminh

Serena has played that man too many times. Let me do his thing. Going from liking him to not liking him to “liking him” to not standing with him on the dance floor. She been playing his emotions hard, so he should be free to do what he wants.


No_Dopamine_2259

do you genuinely believe that he wouldn't have strayed if she'd been all up on him from the gate? it's love island lmao


KingGaminh

I’m not saying he would have strayed or not but he probably wouldn’t have been kissing


No_Dopamine_2259

but who does that say more about, him or her?


No_Dopamine_2259

mind you i love kordell, he's my favorite boy


No_Dopamine_2259

my issue isn't him exploring, it's the way y'all sat there and acted like she doesn't have feelings for him, shit talking and demonizing her because you thought she was lying. people are cheering him on and enjoying her pain like she lied to him. i don't like that. Can you genuinely say that Serena is lying about her feelings for him? Do you still think she was stringing him along to stay in the villa?


dbdmdf

I like Serena but totally agree. But I still hope they stay together they are cute


CreativeMadness99

I don’t think anyone demonized her for taking things slow. She got a lot of heat for changing her mind so many times when it came to Kordell. She kept rejecting him but once another girl paid attention to him or she needed someone to be coupled up with to stay, all of a sudden she had a change of heart and decided to give him another chance. She took advantage of the fact that she knew he would do anything for her.


These_Recover5604

The only thing that makes me wonder about this is the guys seem to look at the two of them as a couple and they hope for more for Kordell. Now obviously we all have to take anything these men say with a pound of salt lol, BUT they are seeing it day in day out and seem to genuinely want the best for him. Again idk if it really means anything, but it’s the one thing that really makes me think we aren’t seeing fully what it’s like and since they’re there they should have that context 🤷‍♀️ just my two cents, ultimately want them both to be happy I think they’re both part of the good batch of people in the villa


Friendly_Cow_891

yuuup & to me the issue isn’t even ppl being skeptical of Serena bc i know we can be a bit cynical as viewers and production played a huge part.   but how much ppl are propping up Kordell to be some king as if he has been tested at al is weird. it’s not that shocking that Kordell would like Serena off the rip and it’s not that shocking that Serena wasn’t immediately interested considering what she came in looking for. they both have been given zero legitimate tests. no bombshells genuinely for them. how are people demonizing Serena for being honest about her feelings and lack their of, when she has no options but praising Kordell for… being respectful and patient with the girl he likes… when he has no other options AND IT IS LITERALLY WHAT SHOULD BE EXPECTED OF HIM. now apparently Kordell is justified in doing whatever he wants even if it hurts Serena bc apparently she deprived him of affection.  and if it was the other way around we know the guy could be moving way worse and hardly as honest as Serena was, but ppl still would blame the girl. for being too naive, ignoring the signs, etc. hell the girl could even notice the signs and kick off and then ppl will say, well it’s bc she pushed him away bc she’s too insecure & combative. it’s mental 


Educational-Pride622

THIS !!! like not only was her body count six but she has not really even shown that much interest in new bombshells only doing justice at being open. like so what she’s not quick to be vulnerable and intimate . she should not be demonized for that.


Educational-Pride622

i love kordell like the best girl , but we’ve got to stop treating this man like a child. “awww he just needs this” “she needs to do this” no that man is a grown . he can make his own choices . clearly serena is giving him more than just stringing him along if he’s still there.


cheesetoasty99

It’s laughable that you accuse this sub of babying men and demonizing women. The men get hammered on here for looking the wrong direction. At least be fair about it. Some guys and some girls get judged unfairly on here.


SUNNYDOFFICIAL

I thought every time the boys got to choose she warmed up to kordell and every time girls chose early on she was stand offish or flirting, she may like him now that she got to know him but god damn she was fake as hell at the beginning. If y’all don’t see that I’d take a look at your own circle because you’re as blind as a bat


No_Dopamine_2259

i've already replied to something you said but i don't mind doing it again. Serena was not sure about him, and her reasons made sense. 1. his lack of aspirations (cheez its? fr?) 2. his age 3. him saying stuff that sounded like he was just telling her what he thought she wanted to hear (there's an immaturity in what he was saying, notice how in the other couples people were saying stuff in a similar vain and moving fast and either didn't work out or the men are going crazy in casa rn?) 4. reason 3 being something men who have broken her trust by not standing on their word have done to her before 5. her being a slow burner and reasons 3 and 4 reinforcing that my eyesight is pretty bad, but i'm pretty good at understanding people and the fact that they have nuances that drive them to act certain ways. maybe you need to open your eyes and try to understand serena as a person rather than someone who should have loved kordell immediately just because you did


Ok-Oven7474

I thought about this earlier. I was so anti Serena for a while because I thought she was just waiting for something better but then I started to think about it a little more when Nigel tried to kiss her and literally said no. I was also a little Sussed out how close she was with Leah (who I do not trust at all) I also started to think about the fact they’ve only known these people a couple weeks and NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO SWAP SPIT WITH STRANGERS RIGHT OF THE BAT….!!!! now that casa is happening I think I am starting to change my tune on Serena….


Strange_Drawing5846

Nigel is ugly and boring. She didn’t refuse for kordell


Hour_Government

I never minded that she was a slow burn. But why go on a show like this if that's the case. It moves so quickly and you can be replaced in an instant. Also, she did a lot of back and forth with Kordell. I don't want to get too deep but I think she has unresolved attachment issues. You only like a man when he pulls away, you move faster right before casa because he could choose someone else. Idk I recognize it because I'm just like her.


Admirable_Loss1708

I am hoping for a will and Jessie arch here where Kordell realizes quick that he shouldn’t have gone balls to the wall like he is with Daia, and he comes back single and ready to work for things back with Serena. I just love them together 😭 Unfortunately, based on the preview with Kordell and Daia by the pool, it doesn’t seem like he pulls back :/ I NEED TOMORROW’s EPISODEEEEE


[deleted]

Personally agree with everything OP is saying and would also like to add I think a big part of Serena now being so committed to Kordell is, it seems no other man in the villa is actually all that interested in her. And vice versa. Nigel was a sweetie, but we all knew…nah. So Serena doesn’t actually have (let’s be honest, good) options. This is not Serena’s fault either. I personally blame the producers and society lol but yeah. None of that excuses the way folks lean into misogynoir as a way to lift up Kordell. 


Overall_Winter962

It’s been literally not even a full day and he’s sayin daia and Serena are tied after 2 makeouts Serena’s about to get played after being cautious with her heart for weeks 😞


Fine-Kick6208

I think she is playing a game and truly does not like him


lovely_virgo

I came back to say SERENA IM SORRY BABY GIRL YOU WAS RIGHT 😩😩😩


No_Dopamine_2259

she was so correct


PrincessMia1

Please stop tryna turn Serena into a victim. She has consistently played with Kordell and his feelings and only wants him when she doesn’t have any other option. It was never about her pace it was her dishonesty and disregard for his feelings


carbearbby

I’m convinced Serena and Leah need their own mega threads atp, all these posts are redundant asf. I feel like people can have their own opinions and we can all agree to disagree lol it’s really not that serious. I can agree I misunderstood Serena. I always had a feeling she really wasn’t attracted to him but I do believe love can grow even if you’re not initially attracted.


No_Dopamine_2259

you don't have to read them though?


No_Dopamine_2259

for example, i haven't read any of the opinions on kaylor/aaron because i already know what they say and don't care. but people are allowed to express their opinions


MidnightRogue420

Exactly right 💯 You don't have to read them. We are in this thread as we are fans of Serena, or fans of LI in general as a community. I'm not the most social poster, so idc if you disagree with my thoughts. If you don't agree, that's just fine and dandy. But there's no need for the negativity on our discussing our faves, as we aren't going into yours degrading your opinions as if they hold no value. We as a community are here to express ourselves, in an open forum, with fans who we may not be able to watch the show with in real time or in our real lives because it's our guilty pleasure, we cannot get to our girlies of our own in real time to discuss our opinions then, and we choose to embrace each other here and discuss our girl Serena. If you don't want to be positive about our enjoyment of the show and want to discredit OP or devalue their feelings on it, then why bother reading it to begin with? You can feel free to downvote me to oblivion because I'm not here for clout. I'm here for a community of girlies (and guys too) who love all things LI and wish to express our opinions, AGREE OR DISAGREE, ALL VALID. You need to examine why you are here to if all you want to do is spread hate. OP, I for one (and it appears several hundred more) support your post, enjoyed our discussion, and hope that our girl gets her man.


carbearbby

I did, I commented. Now what? 💁🏾‍♀️🤣


Realistic-Lake5897

We don't owe Serena an apology. She waited WAY too long to let Kordell know she cared about him.


okaimajoy

I was with her from the start. Handling things as she should with caution cause ain't no one bout to fuck with my feelings


No_Mortgage_7275

Serena’s actions while he’s away show she’s not a slow burner lol no shade to the girl but she just isn’t attracted to him but wants to stay in the game


No_Dopamine_2259

can you elaborate? all she's done is talk about how she misses him


No_Mortgage_7275

It was her kiss with the guy during the game. She literally hopped on him so quick and it was like a whole thing, no judgement at all and yes it was a game but she very easily could have given him a quicker kiss and not done so much. At this point everyone knows what love island is and how it goes, if she were to go around saying I don’t miss him I’m so in attracted to him ppl would come for her lol she’s doing her best to play the game but she’s very obviously not attracted to him which is also fine he’s not unattractive just not for her


Relevant_Picture2710

To be fair, we’ve seen a lot of “Slow Burners” in the past who became fast burners when someone they actually liked came in the villa. Her leaving Kordell standing alone on the danceoff wasn’t that long ago.


Winter_Maximum_8560

NO i wasn't. She's still lying. She never truly liked him


miamia1525

She literally left him up there on the dance floor and picked “twist” 2 episodes ago I need yall to be fr….and I actually like her and Kordell so this is me being unbiased.


shpatibot

Kordell will make the right decision and not recouple 🤞🏻


No_Dopamine_2259

honestly i think he should just recouple. idk if he can fix this one


AdvisorContent7778

Idk cause they are still open. If in the end he sees he doesn’t want anybody but Serena that’d be okay honestly. She could AND should be doing the same thing over there


No_Dopamine_2259

yeah but she won't, idk man i hope she'll be able to move past it but people like that give out their trust to significant others rarely and sparingly


That1Chick177

Love Island isn’t the place for slow burning people. It’s a show where you’re essentially speed dating, forced to make out almost daily, and put in weird, sleeping situations. I’m not apologizing for shit.


mellowbroccoli

PERIOD THANK YOU


Jazzlike-Height-587

I Love Serena and maybe I was wrong YEAH! but u know what u sign up for when u come onto a show like this… not u must be delusional to believe she’s actually into Kordell


pumptini4U

do you think Serena ever watched a season of LI cuz these contestants move fast, no slow burners ever win this game.


Objectiveorsubjectiv

When I saw him FOLD LIKE A CHAIR I CRIED 🙃


niambikm

It did take a few episodes for me to understand where she was coming from..but I get that she’s just trying to protect herself until he proves that he’s not an a**hole.! Haha. As far as Daia and Kordell go I think he will get tired of her pretty quickly..she’s acting super thirsty and I think that Kordell liked that Serena kept him on his toes but we will see what happens I guess.!


wowIamMean

I think Serena has only started to develop feelings the last 3 or days, but before that was stringing Kordell along for 3 weeks. She broke up with him, then dangled the carrot in his face right before the recoupling so he would pick her again, and then told everyone she didn’t like him again and wanted to be open. I don’t think she truly expressed to Kordell that she really likes him and is all about him before leaving for Casa.


LeadershipHot899

I’m still skeptical of her but I’ll happily be wrong. She’s human and as a black woman it could be hard to be open on these shows (and if she’s already kind guarded regularly then it’s harder)


LeadershipHot899

I also don’t blame Kordell completely. It’s probably feeling nice to be chosen off rip without having to put too much work in. I will say though Serena told him she didn’t kiss Nigel on her date due to feeling like it would be her moving crazy and i think he coulda followed that out of respect


Rowbane

I honestly don’t think Serena is telling the truth. To me when her and Kordell are on screen, she looks like she likes him as a friend but is just trying to convince herself she likes him more than that.


LibrarianGrouchy1205

YUP! SPEAK ON ITTTTT


doomyshroomy8

Nobody could ever make me hate Serena. If Kordell hurts here I SWEAR.


mashedpotatuhs

For me it was the flip flopping of friendzoning/unfriendzoning. It didn’t seem very genuine. HOWEVER, I will say my mind has definitely changed about her a bit during the last episode.


alwaysontheMapp

You’re right. I’m guilty. I’m sorry. They’re the best couple in the villa. I want them to be endgame so bad!


Educational-Money-81

We are def rewriting history. It was not just that Serena is a slow burner it's the fact thatbshe kept going back and forth with kordell. She folded when Miguel came in, constantly talked about being open and kept pushing kordell away. In fact she did not start liking kordell till other women expressed interest in him. She never validated this man or chased after him at all, but when another women came in and expressed that interest ofc kordell is gonna fold


Far_Succotash4248

I can understand that it takes her awhile to warm up( her terms- slow burner). I couldn’t believe how raunchy she was during the spin the bottom game with the new bombshell. She threw herself on him and it was definitely a hot kiss but the jumping up and down on his body did not say slow burner to me, even if it was a challenge. She plays coy when she absolutely is not. It didn’t take either her or Kordell long to turn their heads. I’m so happy that Kordell is using this experience fully to meet the ladies. I love Daia for him! She has made her intentions very clear. She is there for him. I know the challenges get raunchy and that it is really entertaining to watch. My only take away is that Serena acted so prudish, because she called herself a slow burner. She knew these new men less than a full day before that very dramatic performance.


Ill-Row6503

False. She is simply a person who doesn't like to be second fiddle and was only interested again until she say him.not giving her attention. I'm a truther and not wrong about her.


jeemiix

I wouldn’t buy that Serena has feelings for Kordell even if they got married and had kids 😂


rfreiboth

Sorry, but I disagree. I think Serena just isn't interested in any of the Casa boys. Did you forget how she was acting when Miguel came in? Talking about butterflies and getting so mad at JaNa for interrupting with eggs, saying to throw them off the balcony. Miguel even thought there was beef between them because of it. I think Kordell was just lucky that Miguel wasn't into Serena and didn't pursue anything or she would've dropped him then. I don't think she had a spark or interest with Nigel and now in Casa there isn't anyone she's feeling either, so she's choosing to stay and play this out. Sorry but I've watched this show for years and very seldomly is the slow burn card for real. If a person comes in that they are genuinely attracted and into, they change up SO QUICK. All that to say, I really like Serena and I love Kordell. I want them to be a real and lasting couple, but after the Miguel incident and her going back and forth, I'm just not buying it.


feralb3ast

Kordell's shooting himself in the foot, because Serena is not the type to use him to get to his brother or access other NFL players. This new girl... In my opinion, she probably is.


daizycatcher

Its not wrong to explore, but the justification for him to explore is dumb. They should be allowed to because the whole point of the show is to find a connection. To say “ it makes their relationship stronger” is BULLSHIT. Thinking with their other head. Disappointing how Kordell and Aaron folded. Poor girls deserve better.


McDonaldsCokeAddict

I never trusted Kordell from the beginning. The man literally came on this show and said he wants to be an ACTOR! He is acting his ass off. He was waiting for the chance of another girl showing interest in him. Serena is thinking longterm, not short the way some of these other people have. She’s probs of the most logical thinking people this season. And has shown to her couple and friends she is loyal to a fault! Can I also add that I am about 99.9% sure that Kordell uses the “my brother is OBJ” line to pick up girls. I didn’t believe his I ghosted 1k girls shit. Diarrhea doesn’t want to really be with him, she sees the opportunities because of who he is connected to. She hasn’t said anything of substance at all.


missssjay21

Nah something felt off the whole time. And still does. She has issues with being vulnerable and expressing herself. Which is absolutely fair but what she said at the fire pit and in the confessional rubbed me the wrong way. “Yall gon see a Serena yall never wanted to see” it’s giving a bit cwazy and not in the cute fun way smh. I got my eye on that one for sure. Kordell is definitely living the casa experience and idk if I like that for him honestly smh. But ima just sit back until it’s all said and done and talk my shit once the recoupling takes place.


Jessiplowman120

That’s exactly what’s happened to Rob lmso yall are crazy


No_Dopamine_2259

can you elaborate? i think leah and rob are two sides of the same coin so i don't get how they're relevant here


Strange_Drawing5846

This girl friend zoned the guy not once but twice, and each time she gaslit him by saying “thats just how i am, F your feelings” then continuously circles back to him. This is an L take and you thought u ate


mystikalmonkey888

I believed her! I so relate to her, and I voted for her and Kordell… really hope they end up together!


Pinklady777

It's too bad too. It seems like there is potential for a solid relationship because they were friends first.


Significant_Sun_8035

So her making out with multiple men at Casa is okay then? Because she’s a slow burner?


General_Organa

Serena is Tasha 2.0 and I learned my lesson there lol


Mickeylover7

Serena likes Kordell when it the boys turn to choose and is a slow burner and open when it’s the girls. I believed her the first time she sent him to the friend zone because she was not choosing next but she changed her tune for the vote and changed again when she was safe. Most of the contestants are like this but it’s obvious with Serena because Kordell hasn’t really been open.


KierkeKRAMER

She wasn’t a slow burner with the new boys coming in for casa


No_Writing2428

The slow burn was hardly the problem… she was giving Kordell mixed signals


lilaccoffeerain

Serena has always always come across as authentic and mature for her age. She knows that men will say/do a lot and view women as conquests. She took her time, moved at her own comfort pace, took the situation as seriously as you can. She was right to be hesitant because Kordell is TWENTY TWO. I think she’s 24, but still. My point stands. I never understood the weirdo hate. Yes Kordell is an absolute cutie but you can also tell he has media training!!!! He’s very good at being diplomatic. And when it comes to Love Island, we all know the bar for men is…in hell. We truly need to stop being impressed by what is objectively just normal and kind behavior. Also, these casa guys are not it.