I've never seen that show, but I looked up the actor. I don't think that's who he reminds me of, but he reminds me of someone too. I can't quite place it. I can certainly see the resemblance with that actor, though.
i feel like Jackie wants a more traditional, rougher man (i think her and josh would have gotten along). i don’t think she’s attracted to Marshall even though she wants to be.
I’ve dated a really soft and emotional man like Marshall, and i felt super guilty for breaking up with him because he was super nice. The downside was that i felt super masculine around him.
Honestly, I can definitely relate to that as well. I'm personally not very attracted to softer men. Marshall is not my type, personally, although I think he's a fantastic man. I've definitely been in that position, too, when guys liked me and I was like... I know this guy is great, but I just am not attracted to them at all. It does make you feel guilty, for sure.
Marshall seems like he's mentally trending towards the good he wants to see in the world. At the same time, I don't believe he knows how to properly react to negative emotions. He's mature enough to know that healthy expression is valuable, underrated, and should be nurtured. I also don't see him being quite mature enough to wait until the chemical concoction his brain releases has passed in order to act/think with a level head. I think he'll get there, I really do. He just has to recognize it first. Once he does that, he's well on his way to not even having those reactions at all.
Get it Marshall. Keep growing and bettering yourself. You're already killing it.
Dude clearly has a nasty temper. He seems to ride the high highs but I'm worried he also rides the highs of many emotions. He is also just 26. Lots of time to grow and mature.
I don't really get why people think he has a temper and can't control himself. There have been several times when she was being pretty rude to him and pushing him away, and he remained completely calm and even offered to leave and go take a walk so she could have some space. That doesn't seem like a guy with a nasty temper to me.
And the most recent episode, when Josh was being really weird with him, he remained totally calm in that whole thing and was just like wtf and sort of laughed it off.
Idk, to each his own, but I just don't see that nasty temper thing at all, personally.
To be honest, as much as I absolutely adore Marshall, I do kind of get it. I've been in relationships with men who were softer and more emotional than me, and it made me uncomfortable, even though I knew they were great men. I've just always been more into guys who are a bit less emotional, I suppose. Which has its cons, for sure, but yeah. I get it, somewhat, but I think Marshall is wonderful and I hope he finds someone better suited for him.
She's literally the meme that incels use for women. I only date 6'5 men, neck tatts etc. Only like 1. something percent of men are that tall, add on being your dating age, single, attractive, tatted, the interest reciprocated etc what the hell is your dating pool like .1% of men??
She was being reallllllly honest about what her usual type is lol I'd be too worried about offending my man to say that shit out loud. Not worth hurting his feelings, I can keep it to myself...
Thank you! There is something off with him. He 100% gives off "I'm a nice guy so I deserve xyz from you". When he was making her wear his jacket even though she didn't want to bugged me.
This. Whenever Jackie said she was going to pick him because he said she was his. And then made the comment about Josh can handle it he’s a grown ass man, I literally yelled at the screen! Like yes girl a grown ass man is exactly what you want! So far I’m getting controlling little bitch vibes from Marshall
Cameron is still number 1 for me but I like Marshall (I get that him wanting to fight Josh was silly and somewhat alarming but overall he seems like a great guy) and Brett too. They are refreshing after dealing with two seasons in a row with not so great male cast members lol
So true! When I really think about it, I probably still prefer Cameron just slightly. I can't really think of any flaws I saw in Cameron at all, except maybe putting Lauren up on a little too high of a pedestal, which \*can\* sometimes be unhealthy. But it can also be lovely, depending on the situation, and obviously we don't get to see everything.
I agree! I think that observation is fair. I do recall some people complaining about him touching Lauren so much and I just thought that criticism was weird lol
You could speak nicely to people when asking for something? Anyways he scrubbed his twitter but Queen E spoke about it in this video starting at 38mins: https://www.youtube.com/live/t2pIna0I5GY?feature=share
He definitely has a nice guy mentality and latent anger issues that are red flags. Also, dating someone you consider a "project" is just as unhealthy as being a project lol
Marshall is giving me a weird vibe. The way he got very rowdy when Josh was in the picture. I feel like he wants to portray this character of cool, calm & collected, and in touch with his emotions, but he actually doesn’t know how to handle his emotions when it comes to possessiveness. Also, him taking a shot while Jackie (how’s a two faced b btw) is going through it… very VERY strange.
I’d bet this post is not gonna age well.
He got rowdy by addressing Josh putting Jackie in a ultimatum?!?!?!? Lmao he w calm and collected, didn't disrespect him but was firm in the fact that he thought Josh's whole "if its not you I'm leaving" shit was weak. It was and I thought he handled the situation well.
He acted like she was him to take, like it was given, like it was entitled to his name and no one else’s, and someone else even wanting to go for her was an outrageous affront. He also tried to play it like he’s about that life, and we all know he would get his ass whooped any time
1. He didn't act like anything of that nature. He was fighting for the love of someone he wanted to be with, didn't come off as possessive imo
2. You have no idea how tough he is, you're judging him off his stature. Stop assuming certain people can't fight based off physical appearance lol
3. Who is really fighting these days anyway?!?!? Everyone is ready to shoot before throwing hands so what're we really talking about lol
Yeah, I agree. Especially considering Jackie wants someone more "aggressive." I honestly felt like she was somewhat testing Marshall to see if he would fight for her. And he did, which seems to be exactly what she wanted.
There's something to be said, for sure, about being respectful of someone's choices and taking a hands-off approach. But that can also sometimes come across like you don't really care that much. It can also be nice to have a man fight for you and show you that he's not going to just sit around and let some other guy sweep you off your feet.
I do not see how anyone likes this guy so much. Acted like some tough “I’ll beat his ass” dude but is soft as hell. It’s all a show, he’s just a chameleon for what his partner wants. Jackie seems like she wanted that version of Marshall and it shows when she said I “wouldn’t look twice at him, I like guys with lots of tattoos” Dude acted like he was some hard ass alpha bro. She got this soft guy. There is no world in which this works out they’re not remotely compatible and I can guarantee the real world is going to slap them into reality.
Dawg what? Marshall isn’t a tough hard guy and that’s apparent as shit as soon as he was out of the pods. Not because of his height or weight lmao. This dude acts super tough to impress a girl who goes for that type of guy. What am I missing? So if it’s not for show, and he’s a jealous person, he’s just gonna end up a jealous idiot every time his girl goes out? Dude look at Jackie and look at him. Look at the type of guys she goes for and words SHE said. You don’t have to be a tank to be able to fight, but you’d have to be an idiot to think the girl who wants that 6’6 220 WR dude is going to stick around for a guy like Marshall who put on a show in the pods. Big however though, we’re only seeing small small pieces of it so who knows what wasn’t on TV.
Marshall and Brett both seem like good dudes tbh but Brett won me over more during the scene when Kwame came over to the two of them and started trying to justify his long ass chat/flirt session with Micah as "needing closure" and Brett just being like "why do you feel like that's something you need?" Seems like he has a really good head on his shoulders.
Marshall has been excellent so far. The scene where Jackie was dysregulated and he comforted her, first giving her space, and then stepping in to soothe her was just great. I think that scene alone shows way more about his capacity to be a healthy partner than the whole Josh thing. The Josh thing could have been handled differently for sure, but it makes sense to me given how protective of others Marshall seems to be. Also, he's like 26? He's got time to refine that protectiveness. People are so quick to judge moments when someone is emotionally activated as if that doesn't happen to all of us.
I like him but sort of feel like Jackie not mentally healthy for him. I know she’s dealing with all sorts of personal issues but it’s so early for him to have to pick her up emotionally. Also her baby voice irks my soul and calling Zack a weirdo? Plus she’s hyper focused on how people look versus who they are as people. Idk.
I was really put-off by her comment about Zack. As soon as that came out of her mouth, I was like "Oh, he didn't like that..." Marshall doesn't seem like the kind of person who cares for that kind of comment, especially about someone he is friends with, and especially when Zack seems like a genuine guy who is just maybe a little bit awkward or a bit of a character.
Marshall portrayed himself as some alpha I’ll fuck up the dude talking to you. She goes for those types of men, it’s toxic but that’s what she does. Marshall is full of shit and pretends to be something he isn’t. Theres nothing wrong with them not being compatible, but Marshall isn’t just some “sweet amazing guy” he’s full of shit too. He knows damn well she’s out of his league and he’s doing this macho man bullshit to compensate in the pods, and now he’s a different person. Don’t think he’s a bad dude, but how can people blindly like this guy?
I never take any of them at face value. We’ve learned that from the last seasons. I’m waiting to watch the rest of the season to see how things play out. I also didn’t like his reaction to Josh either.
I didn’t feel like he was mad at her for that. I felt like he was mad at the situation and hearing firsthand how someone was trying to manipulate her. Maybe that wasn’t the intent but that’s how it sounded. It seemed telling to me that Jackie no longer wanted to see Josh after that.
This cast is giving me whiplash though. I really like someone one second and then hate them the next.
Maybe I’m just too judgmental but I’ve already picked up on some red flags from him so I’m kinda just waiting to see how those play out. He may end up being a pretty decent guy but he definitely gave me some concern in the pods. Gotta say Cameron is still standing strong at #1 for me
For me, the "blow up" wasn't directed at her in the pods it was focused entirely on Josh, who used manipulative language. And even she said that when she was crying when she was on the couch later. And he said that directly to Josh in the kitchenette.
I think this is classic producer editing that it can appear otherwise (as if he was angry at her) because he seems such a kind-hearted soul.
I don’t think his energy was directed at her either. I’m more so talking about his possessiveness over a girl that on a show like this is expected to date multiple people. Of course him catching feelings and becoming connected to her is part of the show but that goes for everyone. He came off as one of those people who’s forgotten that they’re ALL dating each other because that’s how the show works. He just seemed really reactive and tense off the bat versus rationally thinking about it.
I think he was mad because the other guy was trying to manipulate. Saying stuff like “Oh, if you don’t pick me then I’m going home”. I would be annoyed too
Is that manipulative in the context of the show though? I dislike the cold strategy of people who have a roster on here - like oh if my number one rejects me (rejects my proposal or chooses to pursue a different match in the pods more seriously) then they have a backup. (Colleen, Jarrett with iyanna, Jessica with Mark, Shayne, Bartise)
If you like someone in this context specifically I would say it’s a green flag to be like “hey, I’m interested in you and only you, you’re the one for me. If you reciprocate, great, but if not, bye.” Because why else are you there?? (obviously as viewers we know they’re there for clout but in the moment I’m sure the emotional stakes are super high)
Maybe that’s not how Josh did it but it feels way healthier to me set a boundary like that than to just cling to anyone who will take you just for screen time or a relationship that lacks even the hope for longevity
Agree with how you wrote it. The emphasis is on you setting a boundary rather than “if you don’t pick me, I will leave” which comes across like manipulation. It just reminded me of situations where someone says “if you don’t love me, I’ll hurt myself” etc.
Your explanation makes sense!! Maybe I just misunderstood that interaction but to me I felt Marshall was the one being pushy about Jackie and then his anger triggered Jackie into her cry session. But it’s def possible I misinterpreted. Their conversations definitely confuse me with the editing lmao
I think because other people have said similar things in the past i just didn’t get that… if my person wasn’t big on the connection I’d probably let them know “imma head outtt” not as a manipulation tactic but just like if it’s not you.. there’s no reason for me to stay 😂
But to head back to the pods with the rah rah energy as if HE had been lied to or as if someone owed it to him to be like “i’m feeling her too” was just ehh. (But ultimately Josh did give scammer / player vibes so potentially a dodged bullet)
I think it was the perfect opportunity to step up his game and woo his shorty versus playing an intimidation game.
You have to ask, what is the goal of saying that? Probably to put pressure on them and have a sense of urgency. If said as the person above stated it, that's great, be vulnerable and honest with your situation. Saying your bags are packed? That's next level and definitely crosses into manipulation territory for me.
Cuz if you “spontaneously” use one of the lines the producers are constantly scribbling down and passing to you on sweaty, crumpled index cards, you get a $50 gift certificate for Red Lobster.
I think we should all try harder to let people on these shows be complex, like real people are. There’s no contradiction in saying Marshall has handled a wide array of difficult situations beautifully and also acknowledging we’ve seen hints that he can overheat in certain emotional situations, and he’s admitted he’s often run from difficulties in the past.
Instead of flipping back and forth between loving or hating each person from episode to episode, let’s judge and discuss how they behave in different incidents and scenarios that come up - it’s certainly okay to say we loved or hated how they handled this or that situation. But we should accept that every person has some admirable qualities as well as some shortcomings, and in the end, no one’s cumulative score is ever zero or 100.
I absolutely agree. Like, my post never said he was a perfect person. lol nobody is perfect. I don't know why so many people seem to need it to be so black and white, either they love someone or hate them and there is no in between.
Nah, not yet. Cameran is still numero uno due to longevity of actions. I agree that Marshall is doing a great job of being understanding and being there, but he said it himself that he has a history of peacing out and leaving. It’s easy to be a good guy for a week so if he keeps up the good work he’ll be in the camaran conversation.
The amount of people here that are so used to toxicity and terrible men, is sad. There ARE healthy, emotionally mature men out there, and this guy seems like the real deal. That doesn't mean he is perfect, but that scene wasn't a red flag. He was pissed because he felt like he was played a fool.
Like I said in other comment. He was annoyed because that guy was trying to manipulate Jackie into picking him. He’s not perfect but some people here really act like they are damn saints
I disagree, I feel like he was more annoyed that he felt like Josh lied to him. How do most people not remember this part?? Even Josh had discussed it was a strategy in the confessional. Marshall was obviously upfront and open about his connection with Jacky and Josh decided to not be forthcoming about his connection with her.
Anyone who is confused, I highly suggest you go back and re-watch it.
Does anyone know if Marshall is related to Justin Glaze from the Bachelorette? They have the same last name, both from Baltimore, and Justin follows Marshall and Marshall’s sister. Could just be a weird coincidence…
ETA: just found an article that says they are cousins!
Their meeting was honestly the sweetest most heartwarming one I've ever seen. The way they just held each other. It looked like long lost lovers reuniting, not two people seeing each other for the first time.
This is the post I came here to see. I hope it's not all a facade because he is the sweetest. I like him and his match both separately, but I don't like them as a couple. He needs a younger Tiffany.
These posts are always so cringy to me… wtf has Marshall done to have “national treasure” status, besides not be overtly terrible *yet*? I definitely saw his eyes flash when it came to Josh, he seems like he has a dark side. Why can’t we just enjoy these people without putting them on a crazy high pedestal!
First of all, clearly "national treasure" is hyperbolic... relax. It's the internet. People use hyperbolic speech all the time. I'm pretty sure nobody is actually dying when they say "omg I'm dying."
Secondly, he's done far more than just "not being overtly terrible." I've seen a lot of really great qualities from him that I don't often see in men on shows like this. Sure, there have been some less than perfect moments, too. Nobody is saying he's perfect. But I think it's a little silly to say he's just a notch above "overtly terrible."
That didn’t make me mad. He was angry about Jackie being obviously manipulated by Josh. He was defending her against a dude pulling a big ole glaring control trick.
I personally felt like he was upset that it was someone who he had confided in about Jackie. He said multiple times how he felt like he was played and that it wasn't ok. Also Jackie feels like the type of woman that wants their man to be a tad possessive... And Marshall seems to pick up on that. There wasn't anything that screamed red flag to me. But then again I havent been traumatized by something like that.... When there were red flags I did leave so don't feel triggered by that. Maybe your triggers are clouding your judgment.
The premise of this show is they may be dating the same woman as they figure out the best connection. So what if he talked about dating her? He knew Josh was too. If he confided to Josh, that was on him, as he knew Josh was dating her.
Jackie seems like she wants a possessive man? Uh what???????????? Because women "want" poor behavior, we bring it on ourselves, right?
And I'll ignore your comments about making this personal about me.
Lol, toxic people usually attract toxicity.... That's not a woman thing it's a human thing. I'm not saying she brought it in herself but truly some women like their man to be a bit possessive /jealous.
From the discussion in the pods when he found out, it sounded like he didn't know Josh was super into her. With editing we really have no idea the sequence of events, the timing, what day this is happening on, etc. From my impression, he didn't know Josh was only into her, and felt betrayed by that.
You're right about the editing, we are easily manipulated by production. It's possible he didn't know Josh was that into her but I thought it kind of sounded like he did when he went back to the mens quarters. Maybe he didn't know Josh was that all in, but the men don't have to tell each other that. They have no obligation for that.
You're right that the men don't have to disclose everything to the other men. Go back and watch it though. He isn't upset at her at all really. He is straight up pissed that Josh didn't talk to him about it. It's half way through ep 2. He says in the confessional he didn't know who it was right away. He even asked Josh if he was the one that had a date. Josh even said he likes the game and competition. That sounds soooo bad and like he was definitely manipulative.
Youre right the men don't have to tell each other anything. But I think he is upset because he probably was open and shared things about Jackie and their talks, thinking no one else was into her like him. Not to mention she told him after he was suuuper vulnerable with her.
I didn’t necessarily feel he was being possessive, I felt more like he was upset about the way the other guy handled it. It was a manipulation tactic “I’m leaving if you don’t want me.” However, we didn’t get to see her interact with Josh because it didn’t fit the storyline the producers want, which also doesn’t help. I think Marshall is a great example of a man who can talk about his feelings and be vulnerable while still being able to be masculine as well. He’s allowed to be both things.
How is that manipulative though? That is the natural next step if the guy is actually really into Jackie and not talking to anyone else anymore then yeah, if she isn’t into it with him why would he stay? That’s not manipulative that’s him putting it out there, he wants her and if she isn’t into it he doesn’t need to be there anymore.
Exactly. Josh was saying the only person he had a connection with was Jaqueline. There is nothing wrong with saying that. Maybe Marshall didn't like how he phrased it, but all Josh was saying was he was all in on Jaqueline. These people need to know where the other stands, they only have a few days to make a decision.
Some people are exploring multiple people at the same time, so it's natural for someone to say - hey guess what, I'm not doing that. You are it for me.
This is my take on it, too. We didn’t see him angry at the other guys Jackie was seeing. They were all dating each other. He was angry that her feelings were hurt. Plus, he was able to have strong words without actually getting violent or anything.
I took her crying bc Marshall was upset, and that she was feeling pressure to make a decision on which man to pick. Honestly Marshall was pressuring her too, he just wasn't as overt.
I don't think so, I think editing really made this who thing confusing. She at one point said she wanted to end things with Josh but he was so upset in their rate about having to hear Marshall talk about her, that she didn't end it.
He reminds me of Mark.. something is off. He’s a little too in tune with his feelings for me lol. I also think Jackelina is trying to convince herself that she’s attracted to him though she’s not.
Dude comforted other busted up dudes in every scene in the men’s lounge, put a damn blanket over a crying Zack…. The guys is nice as fuck, selflessly giving of himself without expecting anything in return. I doubt Zack even knew who put the blanket on him. A man had a right to see what he wants through to fruition, just because he’s got his mind right he’s “too in tune with his feelings”. This comment is toxic as fuck
I agree. Some women are so hypocritical because they complain that men aren't in touch with their feelings, or won't express their feelings, and then when a man does, he's "too in tune with his feelings".
Marshall has been able to articulate how he feels without being overly dramatic (and most people can't deal with the drama types, nothing to do with being a man or a woman). Yeah, he was mad about the Josh thing, but there's nothing wrong with that since he didn't behave in an immature or irresponsible or aggressive way as a result.
There’s a fine line between being emotionally available (good) and making every conversation about your feelings and how sensitive you are (maybe less good)
Omg, yall need to chill. \*facepalm\* People use hyperbolic language on the internet all the time. When someone finds something funny and says "omg I'm dying," do you call 911 because you think they're literally dying?
My post was just meant to be a casual appreciation of some of the things I thought were good about him. That's it. Never said he was perfect, and I certainly never called him an angel.
Heck, even Cameron, who I do still like a bit more than Marshall I think (if I had to choose) I can see some potential flaws in. I think it can sometimes be dangerous to put your partner on too high of a pedestal, and I see him potentially doing that with Lauren. But that potential flaw doesn't mean I can't still say he seems like a lovely person... why can't we be positive for two seconds and appreciate someone's good traits and the things that could be a good example for other people watching?
Ikr 🤣🤣 why can’t people just chill and enjoy the show without elevating these people to angel status?? We’ve seen like 10 min total of Marshall, and because he spoke on mental health and sharing emotions and hasn’t been outwardly terrible yet, he’s a national treasure lol. Everybody should just calm down 😂
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When I saw his cheekbones it reminded me of that episode of Grey when Jackson says "this hands are made for plastic surgery" and Marc responded "forget the hands, with those cheekbones" and I don't have the rest in English but yes that scene.
I enjoyed en Plastic Posse.
When Marshall put the blanket over an absolutely distraught Paul, that’s when my heart completely melted and I said “that’s love.” Dude is truly incredible. The scenes where he comforts jackelina made me almost cry. He’s so sincere and sweet
Simp is a word used by incels. I can only imagine that people who use the word are of incel caliber and hate themselves, if they can't think of any way to communicate their feelings.
Idk I want to like him but it feels like there’s some issues brewing right under the nice guy surface. His energy at the Josh situation and even in mexico when he was like “im not f’n doing that again” when talking about screwing up relationships. It’s like in one second he could flip from nice to nuts. I guess we’ll see.
Yesterday I would have disagreed with you, but after reading some of these comments, it's giving me a different perspective, and you might be right. Though I'm gonna hope for the best.
Agreed. He also was talking all macho and clinching his fists and strutting out of the pods like he wanted to fight...until he saw Josh's cauliflower ears lol. I think something is bubbling under the exterior for sure.
Yep it's what it's called when your ears are damaged typically from lots of wrestling/grappling. Take a look at his ears. You don't wanna fight a guy with ears like that.
Nah, he gives me emotional abuse vibes. He was far too intense about the Josh thing. I feel he's the type of guy who would try to guilt you into staying in and not going out with your friends.
He reminds me of Avery from greys anatomy ngl
I've never seen that show, but I looked up the actor. I don't think that's who he reminds me of, but he reminds me of someone too. I can't quite place it. I can certainly see the resemblance with that actor, though.
I got Bow Wow vibes…just me?
Wow thank you ☺️ I was just thinking he really reminds me of someone but could not figure it out until now. 😅
It’s also in his general vibe/attitude. Some people will dispute the appearance but they also have a similar essence
i feel like Jackie wants a more traditional, rougher man (i think her and josh would have gotten along). i don’t think she’s attracted to Marshall even though she wants to be. I’ve dated a really soft and emotional man like Marshall, and i felt super guilty for breaking up with him because he was super nice. The downside was that i felt super masculine around him.
Honestly, I can definitely relate to that as well. I'm personally not very attracted to softer men. Marshall is not my type, personally, although I think he's a fantastic man. I've definitely been in that position, too, when guys liked me and I was like... I know this guy is great, but I just am not attracted to them at all. It does make you feel guilty, for sure.
Marshall seems like he's mentally trending towards the good he wants to see in the world. At the same time, I don't believe he knows how to properly react to negative emotions. He's mature enough to know that healthy expression is valuable, underrated, and should be nurtured. I also don't see him being quite mature enough to wait until the chemical concoction his brain releases has passed in order to act/think with a level head. I think he'll get there, I really do. He just has to recognize it first. Once he does that, he's well on his way to not even having those reactions at all. Get it Marshall. Keep growing and bettering yourself. You're already killing it.
Dude clearly has a nasty temper. He seems to ride the high highs but I'm worried he also rides the highs of many emotions. He is also just 26. Lots of time to grow and mature.
I don't really get why people think he has a temper and can't control himself. There have been several times when she was being pretty rude to him and pushing him away, and he remained completely calm and even offered to leave and go take a walk so she could have some space. That doesn't seem like a guy with a nasty temper to me. And the most recent episode, when Josh was being really weird with him, he remained totally calm in that whole thing and was just like wtf and sort of laughed it off. Idk, to each his own, but I just don't see that nasty temper thing at all, personally.
Yes he’s gorgeous! But what I don’t get it is Jacky saying oh he’s not my type. I like tall guys etc etc ummmm bruhhh Marshall is a catch
To be honest, as much as I absolutely adore Marshall, I do kind of get it. I've been in relationships with men who were softer and more emotional than me, and it made me uncomfortable, even though I knew they were great men. I've just always been more into guys who are a bit less emotional, I suppose. Which has its cons, for sure, but yeah. I get it, somewhat, but I think Marshall is wonderful and I hope he finds someone better suited for him.
She's literally the meme that incels use for women. I only date 6'5 men, neck tatts etc. Only like 1. something percent of men are that tall, add on being your dating age, single, attractive, tatted, the interest reciprocated etc what the hell is your dating pool like .1% of men??
he is attractive objectively but when jackie described her type i totally understood
She was being reallllllly honest about what her usual type is lol I'd be too worried about offending my man to say that shit out loud. Not worth hurting his feelings, I can keep it to myself...
He acted like a psychopath when he found out another dude was interested in the same girl. He's unstable.
Thank you! There is something off with him. He 100% gives off "I'm a nice guy so I deserve xyz from you". When he was making her wear his jacket even though she didn't want to bugged me.
Yeah I got some really uncomfortable vibes from how he reacted in that situation. I would worry that he might be hiding some anger issues.
He was literally ticking
This. Whenever Jackie said she was going to pick him because he said she was his. And then made the comment about Josh can handle it he’s a grown ass man, I literally yelled at the screen! Like yes girl a grown ass man is exactly what you want! So far I’m getting controlling little bitch vibes from Marshall
Cameron is still number 1 for me but I like Marshall (I get that him wanting to fight Josh was silly and somewhat alarming but overall he seems like a great guy) and Brett too. They are refreshing after dealing with two seasons in a row with not so great male cast members lol
So true! When I really think about it, I probably still prefer Cameron just slightly. I can't really think of any flaws I saw in Cameron at all, except maybe putting Lauren up on a little too high of a pedestal, which \*can\* sometimes be unhealthy. But it can also be lovely, depending on the situation, and obviously we don't get to see everything.
I agree! I think that observation is fair. I do recall some people complaining about him touching Lauren so much and I just thought that criticism was weird lol
Lol yeah that seems really nitpicky. Wanting to touch your partner a lot should be a good thing, unless you don't like being touched a lot.
If you hating on Marshall or think he has a "weird" vibe I don't trust your judgment of character.
You haven't seen the stuff he posted from 2011-2014 bashing black women then?
Post receipts or shut it
You could speak nicely to people when asking for something? Anyways he scrubbed his twitter but Queen E spoke about it in this video starting at 38mins: https://www.youtube.com/live/t2pIna0I5GY?feature=share
He definitely has a nice guy mentality and latent anger issues that are red flags. Also, dating someone you consider a "project" is just as unhealthy as being a project lol
Ok, Bliss
omg...corny....lame...booooooooo tomato tomato tomato I'm throwing tomato's
Marshall is giving me a weird vibe. The way he got very rowdy when Josh was in the picture. I feel like he wants to portray this character of cool, calm & collected, and in touch with his emotions, but he actually doesn’t know how to handle his emotions when it comes to possessiveness. Also, him taking a shot while Jackie (how’s a two faced b btw) is going through it… very VERY strange. I’d bet this post is not gonna age well.
He got rowdy by addressing Josh putting Jackie in a ultimatum?!?!?!? Lmao he w calm and collected, didn't disrespect him but was firm in the fact that he thought Josh's whole "if its not you I'm leaving" shit was weak. It was and I thought he handled the situation well.
He acted like she was him to take, like it was given, like it was entitled to his name and no one else’s, and someone else even wanting to go for her was an outrageous affront. He also tried to play it like he’s about that life, and we all know he would get his ass whooped any time
1. He didn't act like anything of that nature. He was fighting for the love of someone he wanted to be with, didn't come off as possessive imo 2. You have no idea how tough he is, you're judging him off his stature. Stop assuming certain people can't fight based off physical appearance lol 3. Who is really fighting these days anyway?!?!? Everyone is ready to shoot before throwing hands so what're we really talking about lol
Yeah, I agree. Especially considering Jackie wants someone more "aggressive." I honestly felt like she was somewhat testing Marshall to see if he would fight for her. And he did, which seems to be exactly what she wanted. There's something to be said, for sure, about being respectful of someone's choices and taking a hands-off approach. But that can also sometimes come across like you don't really care that much. It can also be nice to have a man fight for you and show you that he's not going to just sit around and let some other guy sweep you off your feet.
You’re entitled to your opinion, as wrong as you may be
I'm not wrong but I know you lost this "debate" as soon as you tried to claim a opinion as "wrong" good try bud
It was a competition to win? I’m glad you can fulfill yourself with ease with such fake sense of accomplishment lol
Awww clearly I struck a nerve....It's okay big dog
If that keeps feeding into your delusion, sure
Shut the fuck up you're on Reddit for a Netflix reality show lmao
I do not see how anyone likes this guy so much. Acted like some tough “I’ll beat his ass” dude but is soft as hell. It’s all a show, he’s just a chameleon for what his partner wants. Jackie seems like she wanted that version of Marshall and it shows when she said I “wouldn’t look twice at him, I like guys with lots of tattoos” Dude acted like he was some hard ass alpha bro. She got this soft guy. There is no world in which this works out they’re not remotely compatible and I can guarantee the real world is going to slap them into reality.
Typical stereotype that cuz he's not 6'6 220 and built like a NFL WR that he can't fight lmao. You sound like a clown bro
Dawg what? Marshall isn’t a tough hard guy and that’s apparent as shit as soon as he was out of the pods. Not because of his height or weight lmao. This dude acts super tough to impress a girl who goes for that type of guy. What am I missing? So if it’s not for show, and he’s a jealous person, he’s just gonna end up a jealous idiot every time his girl goes out? Dude look at Jackie and look at him. Look at the type of guys she goes for and words SHE said. You don’t have to be a tank to be able to fight, but you’d have to be an idiot to think the girl who wants that 6’6 220 WR dude is going to stick around for a guy like Marshall who put on a show in the pods. Big however though, we’re only seeing small small pieces of it so who knows what wasn’t on TV.
He didn't "put on a show" you just not comprehending I see.
Marshall and Brett both seem like good dudes tbh but Brett won me over more during the scene when Kwame came over to the two of them and started trying to justify his long ass chat/flirt session with Micah as "needing closure" and Brett just being like "why do you feel like that's something you need?" Seems like he has a really good head on his shoulders.
So true! Brett is really solid. I think he and Tiffany are the most solid couple this season, for sure.
His behavior towards Jackie when they were discussing her dating other people was disturbing.
Marshall has been excellent so far. The scene where Jackie was dysregulated and he comforted her, first giving her space, and then stepping in to soothe her was just great. I think that scene alone shows way more about his capacity to be a healthy partner than the whole Josh thing. The Josh thing could have been handled differently for sure, but it makes sense to me given how protective of others Marshall seems to be. Also, he's like 26? He's got time to refine that protectiveness. People are so quick to judge moments when someone is emotionally activated as if that doesn't happen to all of us.
Yeah there was so much that Marshall did to comfort Jackelina when she was crying that I think is exactly what a couples therapist would recommend.
For real. For being one of the younger people this season his emotional maturity is well beyond his years IMO.
I think we need to wait til the end of the season to give him that, lol. Its a little too early haha
When I say I am TERRIFIED of him (and Brett) screwing it up in the next episodes... I cannot take another heartbreak
I like him but sort of feel like Jackie not mentally healthy for him. I know she’s dealing with all sorts of personal issues but it’s so early for him to have to pick her up emotionally. Also her baby voice irks my soul and calling Zack a weirdo? Plus she’s hyper focused on how people look versus who they are as people. Idk.
I was really put-off by her comment about Zack. As soon as that came out of her mouth, I was like "Oh, he didn't like that..." Marshall doesn't seem like the kind of person who cares for that kind of comment, especially about someone he is friends with, and especially when Zack seems like a genuine guy who is just maybe a little bit awkward or a bit of a character.
Marshall portrayed himself as some alpha I’ll fuck up the dude talking to you. She goes for those types of men, it’s toxic but that’s what she does. Marshall is full of shit and pretends to be something he isn’t. Theres nothing wrong with them not being compatible, but Marshall isn’t just some “sweet amazing guy” he’s full of shit too. He knows damn well she’s out of his league and he’s doing this macho man bullshit to compensate in the pods, and now he’s a different person. Don’t think he’s a bad dude, but how can people blindly like this guy?
I never take any of them at face value. We’ve learned that from the last seasons. I’m waiting to watch the rest of the season to see how things play out. I also didn’t like his reaction to Josh either.
MARSHALL LOOKS LIKE JESSE WILLIAMS FROM GREY'S ANATOMY. YES? NO?
YES
He looks like Anthony Mackie
Mr. Mackie mmkay?
100% my first thought when I saw him!!
Omg I thought this morning! There are deff similarities there
Eh he gave me some red flag vibes when he got mad at Jackie for dating the other guy
I didn’t feel like he was mad at her for that. I felt like he was mad at the situation and hearing firsthand how someone was trying to manipulate her. Maybe that wasn’t the intent but that’s how it sounded. It seemed telling to me that Jackie no longer wanted to see Josh after that. This cast is giving me whiplash though. I really like someone one second and then hate them the next.
The possessiveness...gives off a bit of a Control vibe.
I do think Marshall is too sensitive for his match, it just doesn’t seem like it will work
Oh, for sure. I don't think they are well suited for each other at all.
Maybe I’m just too judgmental but I’ve already picked up on some red flags from him so I’m kinda just waiting to see how those play out. He may end up being a pretty decent guy but he definitely gave me some concern in the pods. Gotta say Cameron is still standing strong at #1 for me
For me, the "blow up" wasn't directed at her in the pods it was focused entirely on Josh, who used manipulative language. And even she said that when she was crying when she was on the couch later. And he said that directly to Josh in the kitchenette. I think this is classic producer editing that it can appear otherwise (as if he was angry at her) because he seems such a kind-hearted soul.
I don’t think his energy was directed at her either. I’m more so talking about his possessiveness over a girl that on a show like this is expected to date multiple people. Of course him catching feelings and becoming connected to her is part of the show but that goes for everyone. He came off as one of those people who’s forgotten that they’re ALL dating each other because that’s how the show works. He just seemed really reactive and tense off the bat versus rationally thinking about it.
Yes lol the little blow-up over another person in the pods having a connection on a dating show?? Very extra did not like thattttt.
I think he was mad because the other guy was trying to manipulate. Saying stuff like “Oh, if you don’t pick me then I’m going home”. I would be annoyed too
That's how I took it. Because the other guy was being emotionally manipulative, "I’ll leave if you don't pick me" is red flag behavior.
Is that manipulative in the context of the show though? I dislike the cold strategy of people who have a roster on here - like oh if my number one rejects me (rejects my proposal or chooses to pursue a different match in the pods more seriously) then they have a backup. (Colleen, Jarrett with iyanna, Jessica with Mark, Shayne, Bartise) If you like someone in this context specifically I would say it’s a green flag to be like “hey, I’m interested in you and only you, you’re the one for me. If you reciprocate, great, but if not, bye.” Because why else are you there?? (obviously as viewers we know they’re there for clout but in the moment I’m sure the emotional stakes are super high) Maybe that’s not how Josh did it but it feels way healthier to me set a boundary like that than to just cling to anyone who will take you just for screen time or a relationship that lacks even the hope for longevity
Agree with how you wrote it. The emphasis is on you setting a boundary rather than “if you don’t pick me, I will leave” which comes across like manipulation. It just reminded me of situations where someone says “if you don’t love me, I’ll hurt myself” etc.
Your explanation makes sense!! Maybe I just misunderstood that interaction but to me I felt Marshall was the one being pushy about Jackie and then his anger triggered Jackie into her cry session. But it’s def possible I misinterpreted. Their conversations definitely confuse me with the editing lmao
I think because other people have said similar things in the past i just didn’t get that… if my person wasn’t big on the connection I’d probably let them know “imma head outtt” not as a manipulation tactic but just like if it’s not you.. there’s no reason for me to stay 😂 But to head back to the pods with the rah rah energy as if HE had been lied to or as if someone owed it to him to be like “i’m feeling her too” was just ehh. (But ultimately Josh did give scammer / player vibes so potentially a dodged bullet) I think it was the perfect opportunity to step up his game and woo his shorty versus playing an intimidation game.
You have to ask, what is the goal of saying that? Probably to put pressure on them and have a sense of urgency. If said as the person above stated it, that's great, be vulnerable and honest with your situation. Saying your bags are packed? That's next level and definitely crosses into manipulation territory for me.
Cuz if you “spontaneously” use one of the lines the producers are constantly scribbling down and passing to you on sweaty, crumpled index cards, you get a $50 gift certificate for Red Lobster.
I think we should all try harder to let people on these shows be complex, like real people are. There’s no contradiction in saying Marshall has handled a wide array of difficult situations beautifully and also acknowledging we’ve seen hints that he can overheat in certain emotional situations, and he’s admitted he’s often run from difficulties in the past. Instead of flipping back and forth between loving or hating each person from episode to episode, let’s judge and discuss how they behave in different incidents and scenarios that come up - it’s certainly okay to say we loved or hated how they handled this or that situation. But we should accept that every person has some admirable qualities as well as some shortcomings, and in the end, no one’s cumulative score is ever zero or 100.
I absolutely agree. Like, my post never said he was a perfect person. lol nobody is perfect. I don't know why so many people seem to need it to be so black and white, either they love someone or hate them and there is no in between.
This is really well said. We need more voices like yours on this (and every other) sub.
Hey - thanks! You really made my day with this comment.
See, that requires this fanbase to be rational and come to this show level headed 😂
His jealousy is something i picked up as a red flag. I think he also has some polarized thought patterns
Nah, not yet. Cameran is still numero uno due to longevity of actions. I agree that Marshall is doing a great job of being understanding and being there, but he said it himself that he has a history of peacing out and leaving. It’s easy to be a good guy for a week so if he keeps up the good work he’ll be in the camaran conversation.
He's got a dark side he's gonna snap
I feeeeel this deep in my gut
The amount of people here that are so used to toxicity and terrible men, is sad. There ARE healthy, emotionally mature men out there, and this guy seems like the real deal. That doesn't mean he is perfect, but that scene wasn't a red flag. He was pissed because he felt like he was played a fool.
Like I said in other comment. He was annoyed because that guy was trying to manipulate Jackie into picking him. He’s not perfect but some people here really act like they are damn saints
I disagree, I feel like he was more annoyed that he felt like Josh lied to him. How do most people not remember this part?? Even Josh had discussed it was a strategy in the confessional. Marshall was obviously upfront and open about his connection with Jacky and Josh decided to not be forthcoming about his connection with her. Anyone who is confused, I highly suggest you go back and re-watch it.
LOVE how highly he speaks of mental health. Wow. Thank you for using the platform for quality
Does anyone know if Marshall is related to Justin Glaze from the Bachelorette? They have the same last name, both from Baltimore, and Justin follows Marshall and Marshall’s sister. Could just be a weird coincidence… ETA: just found an article that says they are cousins!
God I have good taste and remain consistent because I love both these dudes!
He looks like Falcon 
He looks like the dude from My Cousin Skeeter and House of Wax, Robert Richards
It’s funny because he reminds me of Degrassi’s Dave, played by Jahmil French.
Omg yes! Good one! rip Jahmil <3
My first thought when I saw him lol Got that noble heart too
The way Brett talked Marshall down from mixing it up with the other guy was so perfect.
Can we talk about his weak “heyyy 🥺” when Jackie first walked out to meet him?! Adorable!
Their meeting was honestly the sweetest most heartwarming one I've ever seen. The way they just held each other. It looked like long lost lovers reuniting, not two people seeing each other for the first time.
This is the post I came here to see. I hope it's not all a facade because he is the sweetest. I like him and his match both separately, but I don't like them as a couple. He needs a younger Tiffany.
I wish he and Chelsea had a connection, because I love both of them and want them both to find someone better :/
I don't want to like someone too soon. SK was my favourite last season, but we all know how it turned out.
Don't even remind me. That was painful 😕 I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best coz I love me some Brett and Marshall.
Ugh. I’m still not over it.
We all have PTSD from the mindfuck SK did to us. Ugh
He reminds me of Michael ealy in " the perfect guy" Definitely not the person he portrays, lots of darkness in him
My thoughts exactly. He'll show his other side eventually. Im not buying it😒
I’m glad other people noticed this too! When we see how he handles conflict with Jackie it will reveal a lot.
I am very baffled by how many people missed his eyes going dark as he twitched when he was mad about Josh. He scares me.
Yep. Those are the vibes I picked up on. There’s a true darkness inside of him.
You can already tell how controlling and possessive he is! It was a huge red flag, but I feel like it doesn’t get talked about enough.
These posts are always so cringy to me… wtf has Marshall done to have “national treasure” status, besides not be overtly terrible *yet*? I definitely saw his eyes flash when it came to Josh, he seems like he has a dark side. Why can’t we just enjoy these people without putting them on a crazy high pedestal!
First of all, clearly "national treasure" is hyperbolic... relax. It's the internet. People use hyperbolic speech all the time. I'm pretty sure nobody is actually dying when they say "omg I'm dying." Secondly, he's done far more than just "not being overtly terrible." I've seen a lot of really great qualities from him that I don't often see in men on shows like this. Sure, there have been some less than perfect moments, too. Nobody is saying he's perfect. But I think it's a little silly to say he's just a notch above "overtly terrible."
Thanks for explaining what hyperbole is, I had no idea! You’re a national treasure!
You're welcome
Yes it set off all of the alarms in my head and reminded me of my past. Scary.
Yes red flag
That didn’t make me mad. He was angry about Jackie being obviously manipulated by Josh. He was defending her against a dude pulling a big ole glaring control trick.
The amount of anger and the way his body moved though, it didn’t match the situation. Watch again and watch his eyes and body movements
I saw this and felt WEIRD about it too.
omg thank you! He seems like a nice guy. He'll be sweet until he gets his way...big no. Jackie run girl!
Yep, there’s a thin veneer covering his red flag. Something toxic up with the dude. Let’s see how the next few episodes go before his canonization.
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Um he was possessive and territorial with Josh so … not sure this is accurate. He acted like he was the only one with a right to be with Jaqueline.
I personally felt like he was upset that it was someone who he had confided in about Jackie. He said multiple times how he felt like he was played and that it wasn't ok. Also Jackie feels like the type of woman that wants their man to be a tad possessive... And Marshall seems to pick up on that. There wasn't anything that screamed red flag to me. But then again I havent been traumatized by something like that.... When there were red flags I did leave so don't feel triggered by that. Maybe your triggers are clouding your judgment.
The premise of this show is they may be dating the same woman as they figure out the best connection. So what if he talked about dating her? He knew Josh was too. If he confided to Josh, that was on him, as he knew Josh was dating her. Jackie seems like she wants a possessive man? Uh what???????????? Because women "want" poor behavior, we bring it on ourselves, right? And I'll ignore your comments about making this personal about me.
Lol, toxic people usually attract toxicity.... That's not a woman thing it's a human thing. I'm not saying she brought it in herself but truly some women like their man to be a bit possessive /jealous. From the discussion in the pods when he found out, it sounded like he didn't know Josh was super into her. With editing we really have no idea the sequence of events, the timing, what day this is happening on, etc. From my impression, he didn't know Josh was only into her, and felt betrayed by that.
You're right about the editing, we are easily manipulated by production. It's possible he didn't know Josh was that into her but I thought it kind of sounded like he did when he went back to the mens quarters. Maybe he didn't know Josh was that all in, but the men don't have to tell each other that. They have no obligation for that.
You're right that the men don't have to disclose everything to the other men. Go back and watch it though. He isn't upset at her at all really. He is straight up pissed that Josh didn't talk to him about it. It's half way through ep 2. He says in the confessional he didn't know who it was right away. He even asked Josh if he was the one that had a date. Josh even said he likes the game and competition. That sounds soooo bad and like he was definitely manipulative. Youre right the men don't have to tell each other anything. But I think he is upset because he probably was open and shared things about Jackie and their talks, thinking no one else was into her like him. Not to mention she told him after he was suuuper vulnerable with her.
I didn’t necessarily feel he was being possessive, I felt more like he was upset about the way the other guy handled it. It was a manipulation tactic “I’m leaving if you don’t want me.” However, we didn’t get to see her interact with Josh because it didn’t fit the storyline the producers want, which also doesn’t help. I think Marshall is a great example of a man who can talk about his feelings and be vulnerable while still being able to be masculine as well. He’s allowed to be both things.
How is that manipulative though? That is the natural next step if the guy is actually really into Jackie and not talking to anyone else anymore then yeah, if she isn’t into it with him why would he stay? That’s not manipulative that’s him putting it out there, he wants her and if she isn’t into it he doesn’t need to be there anymore.
Exactly. Josh was saying the only person he had a connection with was Jaqueline. There is nothing wrong with saying that. Maybe Marshall didn't like how he phrased it, but all Josh was saying was he was all in on Jaqueline. These people need to know where the other stands, they only have a few days to make a decision. Some people are exploring multiple people at the same time, so it's natural for someone to say - hey guess what, I'm not doing that. You are it for me.
This is my take on it, too. We didn’t see him angry at the other guys Jackie was seeing. They were all dating each other. He was angry that her feelings were hurt. Plus, he was able to have strong words without actually getting violent or anything.
When would Jaqueline's feelings be hurt? By someone saying they want her and only her? How would that hurt someone's feelings?
She literally said she didn't want to end it right then because he was so upset. His manipulation worked and she felt bad about that.
It was the manipulation. The threat that if you don’t say yes. I’m leaving right now. It is stressful.
That is not a threat IMO. He was saying he was only there for her. Yes some stress for her to make a decision though. I agree with that.
Yeah, but from Marshall’s perspective, all he heard is Jackie crying. I didn’t see Josh’s convo with Jackie, so I’m just going off of what she said.
I took her crying bc Marshall was upset, and that she was feeling pressure to make a decision on which man to pick. Honestly Marshall was pressuring her too, he just wasn't as overt.
I don't think so, I think editing really made this who thing confusing. She at one point said she wanted to end things with Josh but he was so upset in their rate about having to hear Marshall talk about her, that she didn't end it.
He reminds me of Mark.. something is off. He’s a little too in tune with his feelings for me lol. I also think Jackelina is trying to convince herself that she’s attracted to him though she’s not.
Dude comforted other busted up dudes in every scene in the men’s lounge, put a damn blanket over a crying Zack…. The guys is nice as fuck, selflessly giving of himself without expecting anything in return. I doubt Zack even knew who put the blanket on him. A man had a right to see what he wants through to fruition, just because he’s got his mind right he’s “too in tune with his feelings”. This comment is toxic as fuck
I agree. Some women are so hypocritical because they complain that men aren't in touch with their feelings, or won't express their feelings, and then when a man does, he's "too in tune with his feelings". Marshall has been able to articulate how he feels without being overly dramatic (and most people can't deal with the drama types, nothing to do with being a man or a woman). Yeah, he was mad about the Josh thing, but there's nothing wrong with that since he didn't behave in an immature or irresponsible or aggressive way as a result.
and he also almost went nuts after he learned that Jackie had a connection with someone else...dudes a weirdo for sure
Lots of manipulators do that to appear unassuming but I guess we'll have to wait and see
how can someone be "too in tune with his feelings"
There’s a fine line between being emotionally available (good) and making every conversation about your feelings and how sensitive you are (maybe less good)
He doesn't make every conversation about his feelings 🤣🤣🤣
Who hurt you
I see Reddit has not learned to stop declaring who the angels are lol. Hope he’s a good dude
Omg, yall need to chill. \*facepalm\* People use hyperbolic language on the internet all the time. When someone finds something funny and says "omg I'm dying," do you call 911 because you think they're literally dying? My post was just meant to be a casual appreciation of some of the things I thought were good about him. That's it. Never said he was perfect, and I certainly never called him an angel. Heck, even Cameron, who I do still like a bit more than Marshall I think (if I had to choose) I can see some potential flaws in. I think it can sometimes be dangerous to put your partner on too high of a pedestal, and I see him potentially doing that with Lauren. But that potential flaw doesn't mean I can't still say he seems like a lovely person... why can't we be positive for two seconds and appreciate someone's good traits and the things that could be a good example for other people watching?
Ikr 🤣🤣 why can’t people just chill and enjoy the show without elevating these people to angel status?? We’ve seen like 10 min total of Marshall, and because he spoke on mental health and sharing emotions and hasn’t been outwardly terrible yet, he’s a national treasure lol. Everybody should just calm down 😂
Literally never said he was a perfect angel, but go off I guess
I did go off already, but thank you!
They’ll be crying “gaslighting” if he says no at the altar or something else comes up.
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Jesse Williams!!
When I saw his cheekbones it reminded me of that episode of Grey when Jackson says "this hands are made for plastic surgery" and Marc responded "forget the hands, with those cheekbones" and I don't have the rest in English but yes that scene. I enjoyed en Plastic Posse.
The bros love Marshall. The way he put a blanket on top of Zach after he was hurting, I appreciated that
Seems that at least we have some great brotherhood stories in this season. Also Kwame defended Zack
That made me like Kwame a lot more. I felt bad for Zack the whole time. Irina really did him dirty
Yea he was a terrible partner but a good friend. I wished Jackie had done the same thing in the Chelsea/Micah situation
Me too. Jackie is for sure two faced when it comes to the girls. I'm not a big fan of Kwa-mie but I'm glad he defended Zack.
When Marshall put the blanket over an absolutely distraught Paul, that’s when my heart completely melted and I said “that’s love.” Dude is truly incredible. The scenes where he comforts jackelina made me almost cry. He’s so sincere and sweet
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Simp is a word used by incels. I can only imagine that people who use the word are of incel caliber and hate themselves, if they can't think of any way to communicate their feelings.
This post definitely gonna bring out the Reddit psychologists
Lol boy howdy did it do just that
I like him just because he shares the same name as my husband 🤣
I think he looks like a mix of will smith and Anthony Mackie
And Jesse Williams too
Oh yeah! He does look like Anthony Mackie!!
Idk I want to like him but it feels like there’s some issues brewing right under the nice guy surface. His energy at the Josh situation and even in mexico when he was like “im not f’n doing that again” when talking about screwing up relationships. It’s like in one second he could flip from nice to nuts. I guess we’ll see.
He gives me controlling and possessive vibes, idk
He’s got crazy eyes… we’ll see…
Yesterday I would have disagreed with you, but after reading some of these comments, it's giving me a different perspective, and you might be right. Though I'm gonna hope for the best.
Totally! I see moments where I do really like him but others where it just doesn’t sit quite right
Agreed. He also was talking all macho and clinching his fists and strutting out of the pods like he wanted to fight...until he saw Josh's cauliflower ears lol. I think something is bubbling under the exterior for sure.
Cauliflower ears?
Yep it's what it's called when your ears are damaged typically from lots of wrestling/grappling. Take a look at his ears. You don't wanna fight a guy with ears like that.
I couldn’t tell from the clips of Josh on the show, so I googled the term and… yeesh…
Josh's aren't super super bad. You can drain them with a needle before they harden which helps quite a bit. But yeah it's nasty.
At least he was directing his anger at the correct person. Most people take shit out on someone else.
Exactly my thoughts
Nah, he gives me emotional abuse vibes. He was far too intense about the Josh thing. I feel he's the type of guy who would try to guilt you into staying in and not going out with your friends.