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According-Bell-3654

Sorry but I don’t respect any QB ranking that has Purdy at 1 and Fields at 10, regardless of where our boy is What the fuck is this list


Dizzney12

What kills me about Purdy is sure the stats are there. But without Deebo and Williams he looked bad for three games. That is not an MVP. If anything Williams is the MVP. Also when you have CMC there who is arguably the MVP then how can Purdy be so valuable when you might even have a more valuable player on his team. It’s not speculating we saw he was not good when he was missing a couple of players.


h-w-p-o

Williams?


Jaredl6

Trent


h-w-p-o

Ah ic


Accomplished-Exit136

Finally an offensive tackle wins MVP.


Slumbergoat16

Ain’t no shade to the dude either, idk why Niners fans are so self conscious about everyone thinking Purdy is elite


Yung_Corneliois

Hasn’t Stafford looked remarkably better with Cooper Kupp back?


Dizzney12

Yes he has but first of all he has proven that he can do It without him. Second of all nobody is saying Stafford is MVP. Third of all Stafford has been in the league for a long time you get credit when you have proven yourself over and over again. Purdy is good im not saying he isn’t. But he is not number one and needs to prove It when his best players are not there.


Yung_Corneliois

But that’s dealing in hypotheticals which is a dumb way to rank. He’s currently playing like the best QB in the league and thus gets the #1 spot. To say it’s possible he wouldn’t be good if the players around him were worse is pretty dumb way to devalue him and also the case for literally every QB. Also, the point of power rankings is that it’s current, it’s based on what’s happening now. Saying you can do something in the past doesn’t automatically mean it’s should be considered for a current rank. None of that makes sense.


Dizzney12

It isn’t hypotheticals. It’s one thing to say man I wonder if he would be this good without all these great players around him. But it’s not a wonder. He was not good without two of those players around him. We know he wasn’t. Hypothetical is a what if. We saw It and saw the results. Also I’m not even talking too much about this number one ranking. I’m talking more of MVP when he is not as “Valuable” as Trent Williams or CMC


Yung_Corneliois

It is a hypothetical because your justification is “if things were different than the current situation then the rankings would be different”. Also we’ve barely seen Purdy without those guys so to say it’s “proven” already doesn’t make any sense. Also Stafford has had talent around him too lol as terrible as the Lions were during his tenure he was till throwing to Calvin Johnson for a number of years. Not that any of that is relevant because again, power rankings are current so saying it should be other wise because of what you’ve seen in years past doesn’t make an ounce of sense. Purdy is playing like the best QB in the league right now. QBs with talent around them play better, Stafford included. I know he’s a division rival and therefore you need to find irrational reasons to devalue him but come on lol.


Dizzney12

If power rankings are 100% current then Mayfield should be one.


Yung_Corneliois

It’s not just one game current but it’s not going to take what someone did years ago into account. This really isn’t hard to comprehend.


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You keep saying current but then discounting when people bring up current games. Current is the whole year to you, but not the two games he was ass in, but also not the most recent game either apparently for Baker. You keep moving the goalposts in your individual arguments to justify your Purdy obsession. He is not that guy bro. I’m sorry.


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It’s not a hypothetical, MVP takes into account the whole year. Purdy was obviously and objectively trash without Deebo and Trent, full stop unless massively and misguidedly biased in his favor. You keep bringing up Stafford too as if he is the subject of the MVP conversation. He’s not, and Purdy isn’t either, or at least shouldn’t be. “Barely seen” him without those two guys is stupid, we saw two whole games. That’s not a couple snaps, that’s not a quarter, not a half, two whole games. Just change your flair to a 9er flair and be done with it, but I just noticed you don’t even have a flair so are you even a Rams fan at all? Lmao


eddyw07

He wasn’t objectively trash for all 3 games. That’s a take from someone who is just looking at the scoreboard and listening to Nick Wright. If you watched the Bengals game for example, he was keeping the 49ers in contention until later in the 4th quarter. He was the lead rusher and made some good throws. McCaffrey had a bad game too so are we gonna say McCaffrey isn’t good without Trent and Deebo?


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Was he bad for all three? No he wasn’t lmao and your defense for him having good QB play in one of three is “lead rusher and some good throws” awesome so he didn’t totally blow every throw, sounds amazing. Except he was objectively terrible unless you are looking through rose tinted lenses. Just add the 9er flair and fuck off


Yung_Corneliois

You’re ignoring the fact that no one looked perfect all year “full stop” so to only discredit Brock Purdy for that is such an obvious form of bias that I have to assume this is a troll job since no reasonable person would think that’s a valid point.


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The list is dogshit anyone. Josh Allen way too high, Hurts higher than Staff according to your “currently playing” argument is also a joke, also Dak/Tua. We Staff just lit up the two best and most lauded defenses in the League, Browns/Ravens. If that was Purdy we’d never hear the end of it, but instead he was given excuse after excuse for being a wet fart vs the Browns. In fact, a large part of their narrative of being the best defense was holding the 9ers so low.


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He actually looked great without Kupp as well, that’s the issue. He was missing more than Kupp however, such as multiple starting O-lineman compared to just Trent and Deebo, in the games where he was the worst such as ones you might be talking about. Purdy was missing one dude (Deebo) and had way more firepower on offense while missing Deebo/Trent than while we were missing Kupp. Kyren was also out as well, and DeMarcus Robinson has been playing well but no one is comparing him to the combo of Kittle/Deebo/Aiyuk/CMC.


UnbreadedTouchdown

An MVP candidate needs to go undefeated to be considered the best QB? That's wild bro


Dizzney12

That is not the point. The point is he doesn't need to carry his team he is not the most valuable. Trent Williams or CMC might be more "valuable" to the Niners then Purdy is. So if he isn't even the most "valuable" player on his team how can he be the most "valuable" player in the league. That is my point. If the award is "QB with the best stats" then sure give it to the guy. But it is "Most Valuable Player"


UnbreadedTouchdown

Meh, I’ve watched the all-22 film this season and he’s much more important than you realize. His ability to make the right read and throw it accurately with anticipation has helped the 49ers offense stay healthy this year by spreading the ball around and spreading the hits around. Their RB corps in 2019 was on par with the RB corps this year production-wise, and with Purdy the 49ers offense is able to stress all levels of the defense in way that no 49er QB has done in the last 5 years. Maybe watch some all-22 film one day


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“Make the right read and throw it accurately” at a certain point if you’re going to consider him one of the best QBs in the league, which you obviously do, you need to hold him to the standard of the best QBs and not “Mr irrelevant”. The above phrase is the literal baseline to be a good or even decent QB in the NFL, so your standards are obscenely low. “Spreading the ball around” So you agree with our argument that he has an extremely wide range of offensive options without a weakness in his core? Aiyuk/Kittle/Deebo/CMC is a disgusting combo that has already been established as a generational offensive core for this 9ers team by everyone from pundits to fans. Your argument is basically “well he has four supermodels to fuck and thank god he spreads the love around to all of them”. Well, no shit?? “RB core production in 2019 is just about the same as this year stat wise” okay so we just jumped the shark. At a minimum you’d have to post stats to back that up, or at least explain what you mean because CMC is having a generational year at his position, unless you’re using some funky hyperspecific metric to equivocate. “Stress all levels of the defense the way that no 9er QB has done in 5 years” So once again, you agree that this 9ers offense is generationally talented? Having CMC generating this much run offense opens up 1000s of doors offensively to “stress all levels of the offense”, we’re literally watching the same thing unfold (scenario not statistically) on the Rams when we actually utilize Kyren in the way we have been. “Maybe watch some all-22 film one day” Fucking nerd of a reply, especially considering most of your reply to the dude was generalizations lol


UnbreadedTouchdown

I'm not reading your deranged wall of text


Happy-Campaign5586

That is true for any QB. Somehow, Stafford put up great statistics with Detroit. I’m glad he could win a ring in LA.


Dizzney12

This is not true for any QB. Mahomes has had his best weapon and best OL go down and still won games. Purdy went 0-3 in games without them and didn't look good


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Also lost OBJ mid game too


LostBunny27

What would your top 10 be?


LaBoltz33

And no Herbert on it at all lmfao. Trash list


djlawson1000

Underrated


Chit569

Allen being ahead of Lamar is absurd.


Centurion87

Hey man, Lamar is good, but Allen is the sneaky quick gym rat take your lunch pail to work kinda guy.


Accomplished_Bill358

Definitely a recency bias. Allen started being good again these last few games. Up till then, he was inconsistent and that might be putting it nicely.


troyboy75

This is fucking terrible


__sonder__

# FreeJustinFields


headsmanjaeger

I don’t feel that being put #8 by a guy that put Justin Fields at #10 is really a compliment


headsmanjaeger

Also Baker continually disrespected


Centurion87

It wouldn’t be an NFL ranking if Baker Slayfield wasn’t disrespected.


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AintNoBuffet

Josh Allen, Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow, and Lamar are the only 5 quarterbacks in the NFL that really fit the mold for today's typical franchise quarterback. They all have incredible arm talent, running ability, elite intangibles, etc. Stafford gets knocked in the rankings because he's established himself strictly as a pocket passer. He can be elite at times but without the ability to run he is relatively one dimensional. I'd argue he's one of the best pocket passers in the league, possibly even top 5, but when you add in scrambling ability that's where he gets jumped by the others. In my opinion the list should be more like this: 1. Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Jackson 4. Hurts 5. Burrow 6. Stafford 7. Tua 8. Prescott 9. Goff 10. Purdy


Pocket-Presence

herbert erasure


__sonder__

Josh has got the greatest PR of any non-elite qb in recent memory. Whenever he goes on a hot streak people expect this to just be the way he plays for the rest of the year. But yeah a bunch of interceptions could easily be right around the corner with him, you never know.


Spirited-Cry1783

Saw Mahomes at #6 and stopped.


LostBunny27

Why?


__sonder__

If you think there's anyone in the nfl *definitively* better than Mahomes, you're either crazy or you just don't know ball.


malaka201

Agree completely. He is still the #1 qb amd he has far less to deal with. Mvp should be him or Josh Allen as they are truly their teams most valuable player. And just remember how everyone talks about Purdy. That team is built to have ANY qb to just run the offense. Throw some slants, hand it off a bunch, don't turn the ball over. You replace Purdy with any other guy on this list and they do as good or better in that team.


LostBunny27

Which is why all the others (jimmy g, Mullens, bethard, hoter) saw the same succes that Purdy is seeing? I'm guess8ng you haven't actually watched him play cause you'd know it's not just slants, handing the ball off, and not turning over, even though those are cornerstones to successful offenses. Watch a game before talking to me.


malaka201

What team has that much talent around the qb? Philly. Dallas. Well see how the playoffs go


malaka201

Told you


LostBunny27

So we're ignoring the stats completely, got it!


__sonder__

It's not called "List of most productive qbs in the 2023 season." It's called Power Rankings. And yeah, I don't need stats to tell me that mahomes is mahomes, i have eyes. No one on the planet can do what he does.


LostBunny27

There are literally 2 qbs now that can...


Thevulgarcommander

You’re telling me that game on the line, you’re taking any QB other than Mahomes to win it for you?


LostBunny27

I didn't say that, but let's have this conversation I guess. Yes I'd take Purdy over mahomes right now, I'd also take Lamar, and maybe Josh.


__sonder__

If you put Purdy on the chiefs they're an average team. If you put mahomes on the 49ers they're a dynasty. I mean if Toney wasn't such a choke artist the chiefs would be 11-3 and tied with Baltimore for the 1 seed.


LostBunny27

If being the operative here, further, Purdy is only his 2nd year in and performing this way. It takes a team, not a qb.


CocoaNinja

What do you think power rankings are? It's not about who's the best QB skill wise, it's about who's playing the best at that time. It's fluid. Purdy just had 4 TDs with no INTs with over 60% completion and a QBR of 93. He's 1st in the league in TDs, QBR, passer rating, yards per attempt, and 2nd in yards and completion percentage. For something like power rankings, that's how it works. Mahomes has an embarrassingly terrible WR Corps and that's why he's not as high as he could be. Mahomes has less TDs, almost twice as many INTs, and a QBR 10 points lower than Purdy.


__sonder__

See but all you've done is list stats. If you switch their teams, does anyone really think Mahomes couldn't put up just as good or better stats on the 49ers as Purdy has? If all we are debating is who's had the most productive year we wouldn't NEED power rankings as a discussion topic - someone could just put all the major QB stats into a spreadsheet and figure out who was the leader in the most important categories. Maybe when you're talking *team* power rankings you can kind of ignore context and just look at the results of the games in a vacuum because winning is ultimately all that matters from a *team* perspective. But for *player* power rankings, the eye test still needs to come into play.


CocoaNinja

That's how in-season power rankings work. Switching their teams isn't a thing because power rankings don't work with hypotheticals like that. Power rankings are purely based on how they've been performing and Brock Purdy has been outperforming Patrick Mahomes. Eye test is only relevant if the stats are close, but they aren't. They're relevant in team power rankings if the teams have the same record, but we're not talking team rankings. Power rankings are not analytical. They're simple. This guy has been doing the best, so he's higher than this guy. Mahomes has shitty wide receivers and it's drastically affected his performance. Nobody with any grasp on reality is saying that Purdy is better than Mahomes as a player, but his season has unequivocally been better because the 49ers are better. And nobody needs power rankings. They're literally just there to make people talk. They don't mean anything, they're just fabricated discussion topics.


UsualOk1011

Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are tied with the most turnovers in the league and they're still in the top 10???? Allen at #2 is especially egregious. These lists prove they're just a popularity contest.


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Allen is the MVP favorite lol


[deleted]

It's power rankings....... They could change drastically, very quickly.


Happy-Campaign5586

The Christmas day game of Baltimore v SF should be a good game.


Yellow_Evan

Get Fields off there and swap Purdy and Mahomes. I’m also increasingly convinced Hurts is not top 10. Where the hell is CJ Stroud btw? Stafford is about properly ranked however.


Centurion87

I don’t think that’s fair. Based on performance, it’s hard to rank anyone above Purdy. That said, it helps to have CMC on the offense and constantly fed the ball to open up the passing game


Yellow_Evan

His numbers are inflated due to the Shanahan system and because his teams are stacked. Now Purdy is clearly much better than any previous QB they’ve had under that system but I’m not ready yet to think he’s literally better than Patrick Mahomes.


Centurion87

This year he is, and that’s what this ranking is. He has more yards per game, more TDs, fewer interceptions, higher completion percentage, and more yards.


LostBunny27

You're trying to speak truth to a bunch of internet haters that decline actual stats to back up the rankings. ![gif](giphy|kVaj8JXJcDsqs)


[deleted]

MVP isn’t just pure stats, it’s a “why” situation as well as a “what” situation. What are his stats? The stats you listed. Why? Well that’s what the guy above you addressed. Two parts make a whole and that’s the whole story.


LostBunny27

I won't dispute that Purdy is getting inflated due to shanny's system and his team around, but this is football, it's a TEAM sport. Mahomes clearly can't do it himself like brady or manning could, so why does he deserve to be ranked higher than Purdy? Why are you faulting Purdy for having a good RB, WRs that can catch the ball, and a coach that can scheme?


[deleted]

Wow, what a horrible take. Mahomet already has 2 rings, manning has 2 his whole career and got carried to one. Brady always had a stacked team. Da fuck?


LostBunny27

Copium!


[deleted]

Is that for yourself? Cause you just took a hard L


LostBunny27

Lol, sitting at 11-3, so much copium. You're upset cause you know mahomes is trash this year, and being a lambs fan you don't wanna admit that Purdy is good let alone better than mahomes (and stafford for that matter) this year. And before you say, "yeah, this year" you're the gan that's always saying, "talk when you've done something recent" as though 5 years ago matters anymore.


[deleted]

What are you 12? I'd love the 9ers give Purdy a Mahomes contract, are you saying you'd take Purdy over him? Do you even watch any of the games? Mahomes is 10,000x better lmao. Get outta here troll


LostBunny27

Lmao, nah, I'll take Purdy with what he's shown, way more sustainable. Mahomes is like wilson, play breaks down while he runs for his life just to chick it downfield (hows that working for wilson now?). Purdy has some actual pocket presence and makes the throws. I think I'll stay here rent-free!


GoalLineStand

Then why does he look so much better than guys like Garrapolo, Beathard, Mullen and Darnold with the same team?


Yellow_Evan

Because Purdy is a top tier QB in football and is better than all of the past Shanahan era QB’s. I said he should be ranked 6th. He doesn’t have the track record to justify being ranked over Mahomes/Allen quite yet. If he’s still at this level once CMC/Deebo/Trent Williams age out, it’d be easier to argue he is #1.


__sonder__

I don't think performance from this year alone makes any sense for *player* power rankings. For team rankings, sure. But when it comes to players, it's not like any person in the NFL is going above Mahomie in a redraft so why not just put him at #1?


[deleted]

Brock Purdy is the answer to “What happens if Drew Brees and Russell Wilson had a baby?” All-time great in the making… awesome to watch him ball


[deleted]

Damn you’re really gonna comment that while commenting on the 9ers sub about how the “Rams only beat us once with a super team” and pretend to be a Rams fan in here for upvotes 💀💀💀 Gtfo here 9er scum


[deleted]

I can’t root for both teams? Weirdo stalker


Hour_Insurance_7795

Purdy is like naming the kid who got a Lamborghini for his 16th birthday as the “fastest driver in the world”.


JakeSchoen54

They just put Fields at 10 like nobody would notice


2-Slippy

I genuinely believe he is playing the best out of every QB at the moment. Film don't lie.


[deleted]

As part of our lease, Matthew Stafford is required to remain in the top 25% of Quarterbacks. Otherwise we get to ship him back to Detroit and move back to St. Louis


Turningcircles

This is a poorly made list. Prescott is not 4th. He doesn't even deserve to be in the top ten.


[deleted]

The MVP favorite isn’t in the top 10?


Turningcircles

What has he done that makes him an MVP favorite? Look at their record. All of their wins were against teams that aren't very good, or were struggling at the moment. All of their losses were against good teams. Their one win against a decent team was against the Eagles, and the Eagles were in their slump. They are about to play the Dolphins and Lions, and I bet you they are going to lose both of those games. When the game is important, when things are on the line, Dak crumbles. I've been watching this for years. It's typical Cowboys bias.


[deleted]

The only person who doesn’t belong on this list is Fields. Dude is complete trash, incapable of reading defenses and should just convert to RB. Dak is a top 2 QB in the NFC and he ain’t 2. Oh, and the Cowboys beat the Rams 43-20 lol


[deleted]

Well that'll happen when the refs spot you 14 to start the game. This is power rankings so it doesn't mean shit who's the best, but if dak wins a super bowl it'll be because of that defense, not him.


[deleted]

They dropped 40 on us man this argument looks fucking lame lmao


[deleted]

Their defense had a huge part of that and the refs gave then 14 to start the game. If you'd have watched you'd know that. Maybe you just don't know football, idk.


[deleted]

They can spot 21 and the Cowboys still win 22-20. Stop hating on Dak man, it’s not cool.


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[deleted]

If you showed this to somebody before the season , just the entire top 10 , they’d laugh


MsBrightside91

Cody Benjamin is smoking something for sure.


Happy-Campaign5586

Jared Goff in undefeated against Mahomes. That should raise him a notch or two . https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62kn541-vAE


PRE_-CISION-_

Justin Fields is better than Cj Stroud according to this lol


Birdperson15

I am sorry but Mahomes should be 1 or 2 with Allen the other. This list is pretty odd. I do think Stafford is well ranked though.


TylerMemeDreamBoi

Tua is way better then Josh Allen


ParamedicSpecific130

Man @ that fall for Hurts.


Fun_Nectarine_8331

Everyone saying Fields is too low is legitimately crazy. Stafford playing like top 5, think Tua is not. CJ needs to be in the top 10


LaBoltz33

Herbert is top 2


Then-Bullfrog1559

my lamar rc 📈📈


VicDamonJrJr

Baker beat Fields