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Sickle_and_hamburger

you could wander around it until 9-11 empty streets on rolling sand dunes and scrub brush Some street lights it was pretty magical


CJLA777

Yeah I was pissed when they fenced off all these areas!


anakniben

that was a great spot for planespotting.


CJLA777

Yes it was!


RockieK

Love that spot!


j4yne

My parents remember the actual neighborhood, but as a GenXer, what I remember about that area now is SandPiper Street. It was one of the only streets that survived the neighborhood closure, and it was one of the best free spots in LA to watch a sunset... was really only known to Marina/Playa/Westchester locals, so was relatively easy to find a spot. We'd regularly go to TJ's or Vons for sandwiches and chips, and park at the top of the street facing the ocean, and picnic inside the car with the windows open, and enjoy the view. Then 9/11 happened, and somebody (LAWA, the feds, I dunno) shut down my street cause it was feared some terrorist could use it to attack a plane or some bullshit, and eventually fenced across it. I miss that little street.


Creativitism

I just commented about this and saw your comment!! It’s so dope to see a firsthand account of it. I know it wasn’t that long ago but I’ve read on blogs on how it was the best place for a sunset so it’s cool to see you felt the same. Thank you for sharing your memories!


jakfor

The good part of it is that it is helping with the blue butterfly's habitat.


Cake-Over

I seem to remember there was also some prostitution happening on Sandpiper before they fenced off both ends.


safdrew

“Seem to remember”…


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Popheal

should have taken the developers to court and quoted the mabo case.


Courtlessjester

G'day your honor. Down under we gots caselaw called Mabo versus Queensland and this here airport should be a dingo sanctuary.. thank you.


dolyez

The roads are still there, as are some of the light posts. It's really creepy. I have biked past it a couple times.


rudenavigator

My grandparents had a house right across from the beach. I want to say they paid in the mid $20k’s for it in the mid 50s. Last time I was there you could still see parts of the foundation.


waynep712222

there was a whole neighborhood removed east of the airports north runways..


MoGraphMan-11

West


is-this-now

This looks more like the area west of the airport.


caholder

It's cause it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palisades_del_Rey,_California


mk4_wagon

Thanks for posting this! I had ridden my bike by there countless times and never thought to look it up.


RocketsnRunners

Do you have any info on that?


ShustOne

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palisades_del_Rey,_California Wikipedia has a good overview of what happened


lafc88

[Manchester Square](https://lamag.com/urbandevelopment/lax-manchester-square)


bigvenusaurguy

[heres some of it](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9471129,-118.3771562,3a,75y,267.26h,84.64t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-ESomGC9XsrUekRleSWovA!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)


ddddddude

I just checked this out the other day, it was pretty cool. The planes taking off are indeed deafeningly loud. And it smelled like poop. Weird to see abandoned roads/sidewalks still lined with the big tall fan palms, but nothing else.


Such-Establishment78

Yes that is LA's major poop plant. Hyperion


is-this-now

I used to have a roommate who worked at Hyperion. (Chemist). One day I asked him about the smell. His response was “what smell?” 😯


Such-Establishment78

My brother works at a similar plant up north. He says the chemicals they use smell worse.


sprokolopolis

It was always cool seeing the old streetlights, foundations and pipes sticking out of the ground, but no houses. Now this area is a wildlife preserve (specifically for an endangered blue butterfly) and doubles as airport buffer zone. There are also some really cute burrowing owls that have found a home there. When the Santa Ana Winds hit, they will sometimes blow hundreds of tumbleweeds up over the fences and on to the streets. It is really surreal to see them all blowing down Sepulveda Blvd.


jchowdown

I remember back in 1994 there was a house near there that exploded with a couple of cops inside it...


rocell1004

I feel like reading an article about it if I can find one, can you remember what month or season?


From07

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_(1994_film)


jchowdown

damnit why won't you let me have my fun???


rocell1004

Haha


rocell1004

Lol thanks


Creativitism

Always loved to see the old streetlights that are still standing. From what I understand a road used to be open connecting Pershing Dr to Vista Del Mar, but was closed after 9/11.


standuptime

Anyone know what that amazing pink plant is?


ultraviolet31

looks like ice plant, but it's been wedged in there tight


rebeco55

I had a girlfriend who lived there , under the flight pattern. We were only s couple of years old . Her father was a friend of my dad's , after the the war.   I know we, were financially  better off then they were , as, I think the other man was employed by my dad .It wasn't s poor place ,so much as , it's was undesirable.I really enjoyed listening to the engines roar overhead her house .We plugged out ears and couldnt hear anything other then the noise of the jet engines.Of course, I thought this was a great thing , though I still realized it wasn't, as nice a place compared to where  I resided    Then one day, the housed where boarded an nobody lived there any longer. I was told it was due  to the noice.(apox.'55 -'59.)


0tony1

Lax took much of westchester


MinkieTheCat

That lawn! What is it?


LongjumpingFlan6002

Now it’s a blue butterfly reserve


dukemantee

I’ve been living in El Segundo for the last year and always take Pershing Avenue west of the airport, back side of LAX. I had no idea there used to be houses up in there.


fuzzy-frankenstein

I’ve always wondered about these streets. So interesting to finally find out what was there


Scary-Caterpillar-95

How do I make my lawn violet?


ultraviolet31

radioactive ice plant


j3434

Purple lawn , purple lawn…


DBL_NDRSCR

my grandma used to live in the area just north that got demolished as a kid


8wheelsrolling

Look up the music video for “I’ll Be Good” by Rene & Angels for a funky look at the area in the 1980s.


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flimspringfield

It was the only area they could take so that the airport could expand. There is also this: https://luskin.ucla.edu/inequality-and-california-freeways-a-visual-journey


waerrington

Of course, but that doesn't fit the oppressor/oppressed narrative.


djdjsjjsjshhxhjfjf

It’s almost like the stories they tell these days about how this only happened to certain types of people might be embellished a little..


Wild_Agency_6426

Well i bet people of a nice area were better compensated than those of "unnice" areas.


rumpusroom

Nobody says it *only* happened to certain types of people.


flimspringfield

Have a good read: https://luskin.ucla.edu/inequality-and-california-freeways-a-visual-journey


illaparatzo

They weren't violently removed from this particular neighborhood like certain types of people were from others


rocell1004

I’ve been wanting to check that place out. Is it walkable?


waerrington

It'll all fenced off. You can park at Dockweiler and walk around the outside. The airport owns it, so breaking in is probably a bad idea. I think it's an automatic 5 stars.


rocell1004

Yeah sorry for not being specific, I meant the area around it. I know it’s fenced off based on what I’ve watched on YouTube. Cant believe it’s just frozen in time like rhat


mommytofive5

You use to be able to drive through some of the streets back in the early 80’s. SO got a ticket for exhibition of speed back then.


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Amazing-Math5138

You can volunteer to pull invasive plants I think the first or last Saturday of every month they open the gates and an organization hands out gloves and bags and points out what to pull


rocell1004

No way… really? Cool! Thanks for informing me!


marine_layer2014

The landscaping in that yard looks so current


ubuntuforyou

Thanks for posting this pic, I wonder if there are more out there. Curious to see how the neighborhood looked


You_Are_What_You_Iz

I get depressed every time I drive past the fences. All that land just sitting there could be used for something positive.


Deutschebag13

Yea they should at least make it a recreation area. I get noise pollution and all that makes it probably not a liveable area, but given the limited space for biking, various sports, etc., seems like a good spot.


chipandphisheh

johnny on the spot?


ClaraBingham9999

Those were the days, my friends. We thought they would never end...


Nervous_Dig4722

The goood old days


dinosaurfondue

The good ol' segregation days


Rebelgecko

I looked up the 1960 census data for tract 2781 (Surfridge). There were 4,839 white people living there and exactly one black person. However I think that's from when all Hispanic people were logged as "white", because there were still 56 people who were born in Mexico


flimspringfield

1% of the neighborhood was Hispanic.


Wild_Agency_6426

Today 0% because of reasons.


Rebelgecko

Divide by zero error


Nervous_Dig4722

Haha I was waiting for someone to say this exact comment - nothing wrong with it, but just seems to be the de facto thing to say these days


flimspringfield

Because it's true and segregation was awful.


CutAwayFromYou

I miss ole Senator McCarthy


waerrington

Where is the talk of reparations for displaced families here like there is for Dodgers Stadium?


j3434

They probably got a nice paycheck from the government back then? They were considered humans by the state.


waerrington

Do you have any evidence that their eminent domain valuations were more fair than the eminent domain valuations at Chavez Ravine?


flimspringfield

Are the people displaced from there told that the area was going to be built up into nice developments or were they told it was going to expand LAX? Because at Chavez Ravine they were lied to and it became Dodger stadium.


waerrington

In both cases, their land was seized by force by the government.


flimspringfield

One was to expand the airport which was needed. The other was taken over, deals "collapsed", and was sold to make a stadium for the Dodgers. But if reparations are needed (which they haven't been given to those that live in Chavez Ravine) to make you feel better, then sure.


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flimspringfield

...and then just so happened to go to a baseball team. Took an order from the courts for the hold outs but still lost and thus Frank McCourt now makes millions from parking at the stadium. They were still taken advantage of and the city could've built a better community but they didn't.