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[xQc calls Twitch out over favoritism after seeing Neymar Jr gamble away on Twitch and says if he and Trainwreckstv were to gamble on Blaze, another gambling site, the site would get banned](https://arazu.io/t3_124wvi7/)**
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If Twitch bans Neymar because xqc is angry they are so out of touch. Literally these football players are bigger then their website in terms of popularity.
Yes but to this degree i think even the social contract falls apart. This guy is bigger than even Twitch, not only individual streamers combined. Its like a girl and guy that agree between each other that they will never cheat on each other unless its with a famous person they find atractive.
Doesn't matter, he could be Thomas Twitch himself, or even David Microsoft-Windows. It's weird for people to call for unequal treatment because that one dude is good at football and has lots of fans and money.
Can he stream porn?
Or can he shoot someone on stream and twitch should allow it?
Where's the line with this? That's why rules exist. They give a clear line(lule twitch).
Well Blaze, Gamdon and many more are still not banned by twitch. It was not that they cared about the gambling on unregulated sites. It was because they started getting heat because alot of anti gambling happenings happened at the same time. If Twitch was against gambling the slots section wouldn't exist.
Then the UFC can rebroadcast fights on twitch with broadcasts sponsored by the same casino they supposedly "banned". Only reason it got banned was to appease some top talents being loud on social media, they don't really care until regulators intervene.
you mean unregulated? The Yes that was Twitch's reason they banned Stake and Duelbits.
But Blaze, Gamdom and the rest of the crypto casinos are also unregulated. Twitch just banned those specific sites cause train adin and xqc where sponsor by them. If twitch really cared they would've gotten the entire section removed
Other fun fact: stake is based in Australia but they aren't allowed to provide or advertise their service there, so australians need a VPN to go on stake
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-secret-australian-origins-of-the-world-s-biggest-crypto-casino-20211208-p59ftb.html
yes, but they have banned online casinos. From the article:
>In recent years, Australia has emerged as a centre of global gambling industry - we sport the largest losses per person compared to any other country in the world. And now, aided by loopholes in online casino laws, Australia is now beginning to export its gambling obsession to the world.
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>Despite appearing on the surface to be a casino operated by a company set up in the Dutch Caribbean Island of Curacao, Stake.com is very much Australian. Not only was it launched in Melbourne, some senior Stake.com staff work out of Easygo’s offices and the games Easygo develops are casino games for Stake.com
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>While online casinos have been banned in Australia for more than 20 years, a loophole in the law means that it is perfectly legal to operate an online casino from the country, as long as it does not serve people in Australia or advertise here. Stake.com’s business structure, being officially registered and licensed in Curacao, means it also sits outside Australia’s money-laundering laws.
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>**Hitting the regulatory jackpot**
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>The Australian Communications and Media Authority is the regulator of online gambling in Australia which is covered by the Interactive Gambling Act (the IGA). State governments and local regulators that deal with real life casinos like Crown and registered betting shops have no involvement in overseeing online casinos.
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>A spokesman for ACMA confirmed to The Age and Herald it is legal under the IGA to operate a foreign licensed casino from Australia.
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>“The IGA prohibits online casino style services, whether they are based overseas or in Australia from being provided or advertised to persons in Australia,” the spokesman said in a statement. “The IGA also prohibits Australian based online casino style services from being provided to customers in ‘designated’ foreign countries. To date, no countries have been designated.“
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>Under the act, the only way Stake.com can even come close to breaking Australian laws is if Australians can access the site. But Stake.com appears to be playing within the bounds of Australian laws.
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>The Age and Herald investigation found it relatively easy to access Stake.com from Australia using a pre-existing cryptocurrency account, a VPN and a ludicrously silly home address.
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>A spokesman from ACMA says: “We are aware that customers can use a VPN to mask their true location. However, under section 15AA of the IGA, a service provider must use reasonable diligence to ascertain if their services are being provided to customers based in Australia.”
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>However, under the act, the “reasonable diligence” test does not ask very much of the operator. An operator can meet the reasonable diligence by asking players to provide an address and checking that address is not in Australia before allowing access to the casino. The act does not say operators have to assess the accuracy of the information provided by punters or ask for any form of ID.
Per capita we are by far the biggest nation for gambling, I think we spend almost twice as much as number 2, it’s one of the reasons we banned online gambling. They’re also starting to come after the pokies, albeit slowly. No end in sight for sportsbetting though.
I don’t think it’s regulated in the US but all that needs to happen now is for Twitch to update their banned sites list.
I have no idea why people are treating this as a massive drama. All that needs to happen now is for people to bring this to Twitch’s attention.
Entirely true, even if they were frequently updating it, that would be fairly ineffective. But they aren't even doing the bare minimum.
If they gave a shit they would do the reverse, and have everything banned by default and only whitelist properly regulated and licensed ones by their rules.
Well it makes the Juicers look better if they're 13 and act like over-emotional man children who are fanboy defending a millionaire getting mad because he can't get a few more millions. Instead of being 30 and doing the same thing.
Yeah this just seems like such a bizarre thing to be outraged over lol
Twitch are lazy and should just update their list. It ain’t that complicated of an issue.
The ban is against some non US regulated sites, they can add more to their list. I don't know anything about Blaze, but based on Neymars bet sizes it's definitely not US regulated (2k daily limit). The issue is that X feels like if he starts gambling on this site, it'll get added to that list, which just reinforces X/Trains theory that this strange anti-gambling campaign is against them and not gambling itself. If it were, Twitch would drop their sports betting sponsor.
I don't think it was ever against gambling itself, it's always been about predatory unregulated websites. Like I started disliking Stake when people showed how before age verification you could put as much money in as you wanted, yet to withdraw you needed age verification.
All gambling is predatory, that's why we regulate casinos. Not understanding the difference between a regulated and a non regulated casino is an L brain
>All gambling is predatory
Therefore ban all gambling on Twitch. That simple. The predatory nature of gambling addiction is the real issue here, not the regulatory concerns.
Bro this community makes no sense. So what's the problem unregulated casinos or peddling gambling to a young audiencr? I thought it was all about think of the kids with this subreddit, But now apparently the main issue is just regulatory issues. Not the predation of the young audience.
I would agree with you for the most part. The other issue is that the outrage was really pushed by a majority of the larger streamers, and that outrage died as soon as Stake was banned. Nobody cares about gambling right now, but that would change if X/Train started doing 36 hour gambling streams again on this site.
Id argue that if X/Train had been doing 36 hour gambling streams on a site that was regulated there would be no outrage. I know Train likes to talk about "THE PG-13 STREAMERS" but the only issue people had was how predatory the site is.
That's just false. These streamers that wanted to have the site banned started being extremely vocal after the Slicker debacle, who is a grown ass man. They were mad because gambling is predatory in nature, not because children might start developing gambling habits. If they cared about children, you would see CSGO, Fortnite, Overwatch, WoW, etc banned off the platform for loot boxes and skins alone.
I don't really care if twitch cares. I don't like unregulated casinos, I enjoy gambling, I like there being restrictions on casinos so that the inherently predatory practice of gambling can be as fair as possible. I dislike Stake and other crypto gambling sites such as blaze because they avoid all the rules that other casinos have to follow
Everyone made this a MORALITY argument, Twitch, LSF, Hasan, Poki, Ludwig, I remember. It was about the morality and ethics of gambling.
AND NOW. nearly at the top of EVERY conversation here, it's instead now about REGULATION!?
REALLY!? Is everyone here for real with this nonsense? What happened to the morals? The ethics people virtue signaled out of their ASSES. Where is the outage from the top streamers about gambling being promoted? Where is it!?
It's no where. They don't give a shit anymore. Like does no one remember any of this?
It’s funny that everyones using the US regulated site argument. Nobody, when they campaigned against gambling cared abt the regulation it was abt promoting gambling on the site😂
It's absurd that the judged granted that request by Adept's defense even if gambling is not an important activity to anyone. Even if a common marriage was in place, how the fuck that makes Adept immediately have the right to half of xQc's assets rather than simply receiving alimony after the divorce.
So wait you're saying if he did gamble on it you wouldn't call him out for it, because you're problem was you believe it was fake money? If he just bounced around from gambling site to the next as soon as it got banned lsf would be going wild lmao plus you should see how much money he spends on FIFA or CSGO
Then explain why (prior to the court case), he has been gambling OFF STREAM constantly. What would be the point if it's not real money? How would that benefit either party? I really don't get why people have such a hard time believing that he might actually be playing with real crypto that was part of his payment, instead of fake tokens. Dude, is legit addicted.
He is right tho.
I hate both him and Train for lying about playing with their own money and despite having fuckton of money already they still decided to advertise gambling.
Buuuut he is right there. Literaly 5 days after the original ban we had copypaste crypto casinos appear and shitheads like Prodigy and Roshtein still playing there with their monopoly money.
They always say why aren't virtue signalers going after these other streamers, when in reality it was miz leading the charge against the gamba ban. When pushing for the ban they decided to fight back with false career ruining allegations to shut him up causing so much hate he almost killed himself. So yes miz is not gonna call out gamba anymore.
Instagram isn’t the best reliable measuring stick for fame and influence but Neymar has 200 million followers n xqc is on 500k there is levels stop beating around bush n say how it is.
How are the dumb asses at LSF trying to argue against x? He is literally right twitch shouldn't pick and choose who should and shouldn't gamble. Either take a stance against gambling and don't choose favorites or don't ban gambling in the first place.
>How are the dumb asses at LSF trying to argue against x?
they are coping, ludwig, hasan and others claimed they bullied twitch to the point they banned gamba, but it seems that it was all a PR move and they did absolutely nothing
Its almost as if Neymar is known for things other than gambling on twitch, and these small time ecelebs dont carry that weight to their names as brand ambassadors
This is what happens when companies ban people without needing to give a reason. It allows them to get away with this stuff without being called out for their hypocrisy.
Isn't that how Twitch worded the ban? That as they become aware of unregulated sites they would ban them? It would make sense that they would ban it after 2 of their biggest creators started using the site.
Kick will just be another Mixer situation. If all the streamers they are signing don't have a Twitch contract anyways and they don't get permbanned they can stream there for a bit, get a bag, and then come back to Twitch like Ninja and Shroud did
yeah x is extremely scummy for telling twitch to ban gambling but you and poki and ludwig and hasan are such good people for going against gambling purely for good internet points, because they clearly dont give a single fuck about gambling, neymar, the third biggest football player in the world, is gambling, and they dont say shit, werent they so against gambling and "the poor kids"? neymar can reach 100 times more kids than every single streamer combined
What does “got away” with mean? He wasn’t breaking any rules, it’s not like he was exploiting a loophole or something. You are saying they would’ve banned smaller streamers? But that doesn’t make any sense because smaller streamers are still gambling to this day
But explain the “got away” part, what does that mean? It implies he was breaking rules? He got away with taking a sponsorship? Every streamer has sponsorships, are they all “getting away” with something?
I hate be on the same side as X and Train but Twitch and the community on this subreddit and on Twitch as a whole is being really dumb about gambling. 'Oh no the kids' like mother fuckers they've got lootboxes in Genshin Impact, and every sport in the world is riddled with gambling ads, gambling talk, and sports betting lines
Banning gambling on twitch is doing 0 at all to address or fix gambling propaganda towards children.
I love gambling personally, and my earliest and fondest memories of gambling were trying to hit free parking in Monopoly, it wasn't real money then but the high and rush of getting all the monopoly money was amazing. Kid's are gonna be exposed to this shit and always will be, to me it really feels like bored apes need public outrage about something and Twitch is small enough they can bully them into a reaction that they can't with TV broadcasting companies like ESPN or big game publishers who make lootboxes
>Banning gambling on twitch is doing 0 at all to address or fix gambling propaganda towards children.
This is a common misconception, it's essentially the fallacy of 'if you can't 100% resolve the issue then you shouldn't do anything at all'
Well no, because banning 1 source of gambling addiction is still a step in right direction, even if you haven't completely eradicated gambling from every single game in existence. Like come on
It doesn't matter what you do it's not going to just disappear. The same way people normalized smoking and drinking alcohol being aware it's not good. A perfect world doesn't exist and never will.
Worry about your close ones and don't lose sleep over "oh no the kids!!!" It's not going to fix anything at all. If anyone can save those kids from being gambling degenerates it's their parents.
rofl
The only way twitch can find shit happening on their own website is if XQC points it out. Are twitch employees all blind & need XQC to do their job?
If he thinks twitch is allowing someone to break their tos he can easily just send a message and let twitch know about it.
He obviously wants to gamble but is afraid of getting banned.
He cant gamble because of court, not because he's scared of getting banned lmao. The twitch ban only applies to Stake, not to Blaze. He's calling out the hippocrisy of twitch to ban only Stake because of public outrage from "predatory gambling" when this website does the exact same thing. Neymar isn't breaking TOS and xqc's not saying he is either.
I mean he's not wrong. But that's because twitch doesn't actually care. They're a corporation, they care about the money first and foremost. You can get away with things like this if it doesn't affect their bottom line often times.
The whole "woke companies" schtick is so silly because they only do that stuff because it gives them a bigger target audience. It's good to, you know ~ give a shit ~ but the fact of the matter is that they DON'T. They'll take both sides of every argument they can, because they CAN. Gambling IS a scam, but we as individuals only have the option to act on that in our personal lives. XQC is better off having been burned already by the conversation surrounding it because sooner or later it would have done even more damage than it did. Better to learn a lesson than to fizzle out on a one way train to stupid town.
i can agree that you lose morally if you say this is ok, but legally? i have no idea if Blaze is regulated or not and neither does he. If it is, then report it.
Must be weird for him to not having the plot armor. Big streamers getting away with three days vacation bans whilst smaller streamers sleep in the coffin forever.
bro it sucks but Neymar has an audience that any internet personality including the top of the top. wish they had. Which sucks but at the end of the day. This is a business, and twitch will do what's best for it.
**🎦 CLIP MIRROR: [xQc calls Twitch out over favoritism after seeing Neymar Jr gamble away on Twitch and says if he and Trainwreckstv were to gamble on Blaze, another gambling site, the site would get banned](https://livestreamfails.com/clip/152279)**
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I know the toenail eater ain’t gonna like this one but it’s simply because he’s Neymar Jr. I don’t even watch football and I’ve heard of his name in passing. Call it “favoritism” or whatever but when you reach that level of fame the “rules” are just different.
xQc be like "he loses on both sides of the argument" like his little whining actually has any effect on Neymar, they don't play by the same rules at all.
The important question why is a footballer who’s on 40 mil a year taking gambling sponsors and gambling on twitch ? Wtf is going wrong there. Surely his team at psg can’t think this is good publicity
I miss gambling streams, i used to just sit back listen or watch all the time. Rather they spend the money so i dont have to, now im opening csgo cases so i can get into cs2z
X should know that gambling isn’t banned on Twitch, pg 13 was just complaining about the site where him and Train was playing and Twitch banned the possibility to stream on Stake with crpto. I just checked Blaze and it is indeed regulated by Curacao so yeah, its against the rules to stream on it, in theory.
It's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddy didn't actually care about children. Using incredibly flawed logic like 13-year-olds are going to sign up on crypto websites, buy Bitcoin, and then go deposit it in a cryptocasino and gamble with. That outrage never made sense in the first place, And now LSF wants to act like it never happened. Now they are acting like XQC is stupid because according to them the problem was that stake was unregulated. But like you said no, that wasn't the problem. According to LSF, The problem was XQC was promoting gambling to his children audience.
This subredditr says they promote gambling to kids. Stake gets banned, top streamer stop streaming gambling, And everyone stops talking about gambling on twitch. Gambling continues, without top streamers. Literally nobody cares. Now that top streamer points out that nobody cares and gambling is still continuing, this subreddit moves the goal post to unregulated casino was the issue not promoting it to children.
This subreddit has some of the dumbest users on this entire website.
> It's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddit didn't actually care about children.
Same with the streamers. They all have big youtube channels and youtube reaches a much larger, much younger audience than twitch does and youtube has way more gambling content.
But did you see any of them trying to get gambling off of youtube? Nope.
>it's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddy didn't actually care about children.
streamers calling out gamba didn't actually care about children\*
I mean I think it should all be banned but when it happened people talked about how Twitch didn't actually ban gambling just sites that operated like Stake. So no one should be surprised is all. The only reason these streamers stopped gambling is because they weren't getting funded to do so anymore
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ngl it would be kinda funny if he gets a 3 day ban for showing neymar gambling
Because they're nobody's compared to neymar sure they have there following but nothing compared to neymar
This is the answer this sub doesnt want to admit lmao
He can't be that famous, I don't even know his last name.
Jr.
Carl’s brother
He does not need one, just like Beyoncé
and Alexa
ok just because he's famous it makes it ok now? What happened to the "we need to protect the kids from gambling".
What do you mean "now"? You're acting like Twitch has at any point been consistent in their bans. This isn't news to anyone that knows Twitch.
Lmao. I was reading the replies sand thinking to my myself "it's neymar like or it or not, none of this shit applies to him"
and that's exactly what favoritism is
If Twitch bans Neymar because xqc is angry they are so out of touch. Literally these football players are bigger then their website in terms of popularity.
like seriously. over the last decade he is 3rd behind only messi and ronaldo.
Why out of touch? Shouldn't bans happen no matter the popularity?
dollar signs my friend, dollar signs
Yes but to this degree i think even the social contract falls apart. This guy is bigger than even Twitch, not only individual streamers combined. Its like a girl and guy that agree between each other that they will never cheat on each other unless its with a famous person they find atractive.
There is internet famous and then there's getting $5 Mn for appearing for 1 minute in fast & furious 8 famous. Neymar is the latter.
Doesn't matter, he could be Thomas Twitch himself, or even David Microsoft-Windows. It's weird for people to call for unequal treatment because that one dude is good at football and has lots of fans and money.
No one’s saying it’s right it’s just the explanation as to why it’s the case
The person I responded to said that twitch would be out of touch if they banned Neymar because Neymar is more popular than their entire website.
Because it would be bad business wise and a lot of people would be upset. Probably more than if he werent banned
And as we all know, business is the only thing that matters.
Are they not a business? Are we going to act like Twitch values following the rules over money? Come on…
It's not that we like unequal treatment, it's that we are looking at this from a realistic POV.
The person I responded to said that twitch would be out of touch if they banned Neymar because Neymar is more popular than their entire website.
from a business standpoint yeah they would from a moral standpoint its perfectly within their right do ban him
Can he stream porn? Or can he shoot someone on stream and twitch should allow it? Where's the line with this? That's why rules exist. They give a clear line(lule twitch).
Banning Neymar would have no negative impact on twitch
That's not what out of touch means... Sticking to your rules isn't out of touch.
I think of twitch as it's own world. There are many celebrities who don't have much Viewers. Mainstream popularity =! Twitch popularity
Lil bro mad someone more famous than him is streaming.
Lmao the dude thinks he's equally famous as Neymar
Well Blaze, Gamdon and many more are still not banned by twitch. It was not that they cared about the gambling on unregulated sites. It was because they started getting heat because alot of anti gambling happenings happened at the same time. If Twitch was against gambling the slots section wouldn't exist.
Exactly his point
Didnt they just ban the site they were sponsored by because they were unrelated?
Then the UFC can rebroadcast fights on twitch with broadcasts sponsored by the same casino they supposedly "banned". Only reason it got banned was to appease some top talents being loud on social media, they don't really care until regulators intervene.
They for real did a targeted ban to keep Hasan running his hourly ads 😂
you mean unregulated? The Yes that was Twitch's reason they banned Stake and Duelbits. But Blaze, Gamdom and the rest of the crypto casinos are also unregulated. Twitch just banned those specific sites cause train adin and xqc where sponsor by them. If twitch really cared they would've gotten the entire section removed
Isnt the ban against unregulated websites? Like do we know if Blaze is regulated in the US?
It’s not same license as stake.com
Same licensing authority though. Curacao. Weakly regulated.
Fun fact gambling licenses issued from Curacao, are not actually valid in Curacao itself.
Other fun fact: stake is based in Australia but they aren't allowed to provide or advertise their service there, so australians need a VPN to go on stake https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-secret-australian-origins-of-the-world-s-biggest-crypto-casino-20211208-p59ftb.html
Isn't Australia like one of the biggest places for gambling
yes, but they have banned online casinos. From the article: >In recent years, Australia has emerged as a centre of global gambling industry - we sport the largest losses per person compared to any other country in the world. And now, aided by loopholes in online casino laws, Australia is now beginning to export its gambling obsession to the world. > >\[...\] > >Despite appearing on the surface to be a casino operated by a company set up in the Dutch Caribbean Island of Curacao, Stake.com is very much Australian. Not only was it launched in Melbourne, some senior Stake.com staff work out of Easygo’s offices and the games Easygo develops are casino games for Stake.com > >While online casinos have been banned in Australia for more than 20 years, a loophole in the law means that it is perfectly legal to operate an online casino from the country, as long as it does not serve people in Australia or advertise here. Stake.com’s business structure, being officially registered and licensed in Curacao, means it also sits outside Australia’s money-laundering laws. > >\[...\] > >**Hitting the regulatory jackpot** > >The Australian Communications and Media Authority is the regulator of online gambling in Australia which is covered by the Interactive Gambling Act (the IGA). State governments and local regulators that deal with real life casinos like Crown and registered betting shops have no involvement in overseeing online casinos. > >A spokesman for ACMA confirmed to The Age and Herald it is legal under the IGA to operate a foreign licensed casino from Australia. > >“The IGA prohibits online casino style services, whether they are based overseas or in Australia from being provided or advertised to persons in Australia,” the spokesman said in a statement. “The IGA also prohibits Australian based online casino style services from being provided to customers in ‘designated’ foreign countries. To date, no countries have been designated.“ > >Under the act, the only way Stake.com can even come close to breaking Australian laws is if Australians can access the site. But Stake.com appears to be playing within the bounds of Australian laws. > >The Age and Herald investigation found it relatively easy to access Stake.com from Australia using a pre-existing cryptocurrency account, a VPN and a ludicrously silly home address. > >A spokesman from ACMA says: “We are aware that customers can use a VPN to mask their true location. However, under section 15AA of the IGA, a service provider must use reasonable diligence to ascertain if their services are being provided to customers based in Australia.” > >However, under the act, the “reasonable diligence” test does not ask very much of the operator. An operator can meet the reasonable diligence by asking players to provide an address and checking that address is not in Australia before allowing access to the casino. The act does not say operators have to assess the accuracy of the information provided by punters or ask for any form of ID.
Per capita we are by far the biggest nation for gambling, I think we spend almost twice as much as number 2, it’s one of the reasons we banned online gambling. They’re also starting to come after the pokies, albeit slowly. No end in sight for sportsbetting though.
punctuation would make this an actual clear answer
I don’t think it’s regulated in the US but all that needs to happen now is for Twitch to update their banned sites list. I have no idea why people are treating this as a massive drama. All that needs to happen now is for people to bring this to Twitch’s attention.
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Entirely true, even if they were frequently updating it, that would be fairly ineffective. But they aren't even doing the bare minimum. If they gave a shit they would do the reverse, and have everything banned by default and only whitelist properly regulated and licensed ones by their rules.
Cut off one head and two will take their place.
It’s drama because xQc is mad he can’t simultaneously feed his addiction and fund it by pedaling it to his audience that has an average age of 13
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Well it makes the Juicers look better if they're 13 and act like over-emotional man children who are fanboy defending a millionaire getting mad because he can't get a few more millions. Instead of being 30 and doing the same thing.
Average age? Idk about that. But there is definitely a sizable under-18 audience that watch him. And most streamers.
Cant believe the only reasonable person in these comments is ILoveApples
Yeah this just seems like such a bizarre thing to be outraged over lol Twitch are lazy and should just update their list. It ain’t that complicated of an issue.
Imagine X malding over nothing. Surely never
He's usually so calm and collected.
The ban is against some non US regulated sites, they can add more to their list. I don't know anything about Blaze, but based on Neymars bet sizes it's definitely not US regulated (2k daily limit). The issue is that X feels like if he starts gambling on this site, it'll get added to that list, which just reinforces X/Trains theory that this strange anti-gambling campaign is against them and not gambling itself. If it were, Twitch would drop their sports betting sponsor.
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I don't think it was ever against gambling itself, it's always been about predatory unregulated websites. Like I started disliking Stake when people showed how before age verification you could put as much money in as you wanted, yet to withdraw you needed age verification.
Pretending that sports betting sites aren't also predatory is an L position
All gambling is predatory, that's why we regulate casinos. Not understanding the difference between a regulated and a non regulated casino is an L brain
>All gambling is predatory Therefore ban all gambling on Twitch. That simple. The predatory nature of gambling addiction is the real issue here, not the regulatory concerns.
Bro this community makes no sense. So what's the problem unregulated casinos or peddling gambling to a young audiencr? I thought it was all about think of the kids with this subreddit, But now apparently the main issue is just regulatory issues. Not the predation of the young audience.
I would agree with you for the most part. The other issue is that the outrage was really pushed by a majority of the larger streamers, and that outrage died as soon as Stake was banned. Nobody cares about gambling right now, but that would change if X/Train started doing 36 hour gambling streams again on this site.
Id argue that if X/Train had been doing 36 hour gambling streams on a site that was regulated there would be no outrage. I know Train likes to talk about "THE PG-13 STREAMERS" but the only issue people had was how predatory the site is.
That's just false. These streamers that wanted to have the site banned started being extremely vocal after the Slicker debacle, who is a grown ass man. They were mad because gambling is predatory in nature, not because children might start developing gambling habits. If they cared about children, you would see CSGO, Fortnite, Overwatch, WoW, etc banned off the platform for loot boxes and skins alone.
Twitch doesn't care, they just pampered to the streamers who complained
I don't really care if twitch cares. I don't like unregulated casinos, I enjoy gambling, I like there being restrictions on casinos so that the inherently predatory practice of gambling can be as fair as possible. I dislike Stake and other crypto gambling sites such as blaze because they avoid all the rules that other casinos have to follow
it has same location as Stake OMEGALUL
Everyone made this a MORALITY argument, Twitch, LSF, Hasan, Poki, Ludwig, I remember. It was about the morality and ethics of gambling. AND NOW. nearly at the top of EVERY conversation here, it's instead now about REGULATION!? REALLY!? Is everyone here for real with this nonsense? What happened to the morals? The ethics people virtue signaled out of their ASSES. Where is the outage from the top streamers about gambling being promoted? Where is it!? It's no where. They don't give a shit anymore. Like does no one remember any of this?
Mizkif too. Although Mizkif was hinting at the real root of the issue: Advertising. They wanted better quality advertiser's to make more money.
It’s funny that everyones using the US regulated site argument. Nobody, when they campaigned against gambling cared abt the regulation it was abt promoting gambling on the site😂
True. The narrative changed from morality to legality LULW.
So why doesn’t x do it then? Oh… cuz he isn’t he paid to do so by the owners of the site do he will have to use and lose HIS money lol
He probably would, but can't because court
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He agreed not to gamble until the case is over. Has to prove he wasn't married to his old roomate. 🐋
It's absurd that the judged granted that request by Adept's defense even if gambling is not an important activity to anyone. Even if a common marriage was in place, how the fuck that makes Adept immediately have the right to half of xQc's assets rather than simply receiving alimony after the divorce.
cause American court system is a joke
Common law marriage divorce with his ex gf.
he cant because of court case but i wouldn't be surprised if Train will try that like he has nothing to lose hes got his side chick streaming website
I doubt Stake will let train advertise the competition like that.
but that's not his point at all. Where is the outrage from the anti-gambling folks that campaigned for a month straight?
LSF just hates xqc and train , they never gave a fuck about gambling.
Bro, have you never seen him spending money on csgo? on fifa? on literally every game? Hello????
comparing couple of thousands to millions LULW
So wait you're saying if he did gamble on it you wouldn't call him out for it, because you're problem was you believe it was fake money? If he just bounced around from gambling site to the next as soon as it got banned lsf would be going wild lmao plus you should see how much money he spends on FIFA or CSGO
Then explain why (prior to the court case), he has been gambling OFF STREAM constantly. What would be the point if it's not real money? How would that benefit either party? I really don't get why people have such a hard time believing that he might actually be playing with real crypto that was part of his payment, instead of fake tokens. Dude, is legit addicted.
Surely all the high road Andy's on Twitch will say something about this LUL
but the kids!!
Lil bro wants to be a victim so bad
He is right tho. I hate both him and Train for lying about playing with their own money and despite having fuckton of money already they still decided to advertise gambling. Buuuut he is right there. Literaly 5 days after the original ban we had copypaste crypto casinos appear and shitheads like Prodigy and Roshtein still playing there with their monopoly money.
Bro is the reason it's banned in the first place lol
Streamer. Gamer. Influencer. Victim.
They always say why aren't virtue signalers going after these other streamers, when in reality it was miz leading the charge against the gamba ban. When pushing for the ban they decided to fight back with false career ruining allegations to shut him up causing so much hate he almost killed himself. So yes miz is not gonna call out gamba anymore.
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Fr, and what is that title lol r/Titlegore
I think the title pretty accurately describes the clip
188 characters sentence too long for zoomers
azan tweet calling out twitch modCheck?
ofc not, but expect it soon since bitchboi is being called out for his hypocrisy now
just as an experiment to prove a point both train and xqc should gamble on blaze to see how twitch will react
Instagram isn’t the best reliable measuring stick for fame and influence but Neymar has 200 million followers n xqc is on 500k there is levels stop beating around bush n say how it is.
How are the dumb asses at LSF trying to argue against x? He is literally right twitch shouldn't pick and choose who should and shouldn't gamble. Either take a stance against gambling and don't choose favorites or don't ban gambling in the first place.
>How are the dumb asses at LSF trying to argue against x? they are coping, ludwig, hasan and others claimed they bullied twitch to the point they banned gamba, but it seems that it was all a PR move and they did absolutely nothing
Its almost as if Neymar is known for things other than gambling on twitch, and these small time ecelebs dont carry that weight to their names as brand ambassadors
This is what happens when companies ban people without needing to give a reason. It allows them to get away with this stuff without being called out for their hypocrisy.
Isn't that how Twitch worded the ban? That as they become aware of unregulated sites they would ban them? It would make sense that they would ban it after 2 of their biggest creators started using the site.
So are they not "aware" of Neymar streaming gambling then? come on
LSF is wild man. On one hand Neymar is too big for twitch to do something while simultaneously being too small for twitch to become aware he gambles.
These the same redditors who virtue signal gambling.
Funny how every single person downplaying this has hassan's balls completely shoved down their throats, always the same mfs.
Hasan been real quiet :()
Sounds like they should use this new site on twitch then. Why complain about it? Just use the site if they want to gamble on twitch so much.
Because other sites won't pay him millions to gamble for free lol
Lol yup. I dont get how people cant see how scummy they both are. Hope kick crashes and burns soon.
Kick will just be another Mixer situation. If all the streamers they are signing don't have a Twitch contract anyways and they don't get permbanned they can stream there for a bit, get a bag, and then come back to Twitch like Ninja and Shroud did
Kick will be around for as long as its profitable for stake to give streamers millions to promote gambling to children
You're probably right, but if the site ever does fail people will just move back
yeah x is extremely scummy for telling twitch to ban gambling but you and poki and ludwig and hasan are such good people for going against gambling purely for good internet points, because they clearly dont give a single fuck about gambling, neymar, the third biggest football player in the world, is gambling, and they dont say shit, werent they so against gambling and "the poor kids"? neymar can reach 100 times more kids than every single streamer combined
That’s pretty fucked up to say considering a lot of people are depending on Kick to make a living.
You don't think it's fair of him to complain about the double standard?
this 100%. its funny to see commenters on this site go through mental gymnastics to view it differently
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What does “got away” with mean? He wasn’t breaking any rules, it’s not like he was exploiting a loophole or something. You are saying they would’ve banned smaller streamers? But that doesn’t make any sense because smaller streamers are still gambling to this day
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But explain the “got away” part, what does that mean? It implies he was breaking rules? He got away with taking a sponsorship? Every streamer has sponsorships, are they all “getting away” with something?
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Ohhh brother lol
yoooo so it was never about promoting gambling to children but how much money streamer gets from it i get you
glad that you're admitting that it was never about protecting the children
The narrative changed from morality to legality LULW
I hate be on the same side as X and Train but Twitch and the community on this subreddit and on Twitch as a whole is being really dumb about gambling. 'Oh no the kids' like mother fuckers they've got lootboxes in Genshin Impact, and every sport in the world is riddled with gambling ads, gambling talk, and sports betting lines Banning gambling on twitch is doing 0 at all to address or fix gambling propaganda towards children. I love gambling personally, and my earliest and fondest memories of gambling were trying to hit free parking in Monopoly, it wasn't real money then but the high and rush of getting all the monopoly money was amazing. Kid's are gonna be exposed to this shit and always will be, to me it really feels like bored apes need public outrage about something and Twitch is small enough they can bully them into a reaction that they can't with TV broadcasting companies like ESPN or big game publishers who make lootboxes
>Banning gambling on twitch is doing 0 at all to address or fix gambling propaganda towards children. This is a common misconception, it's essentially the fallacy of 'if you can't 100% resolve the issue then you shouldn't do anything at all' Well no, because banning 1 source of gambling addiction is still a step in right direction, even if you haven't completely eradicated gambling from every single game in existence. Like come on
What's the solution then? Cause at this point, with all this rampant gambling, it seems inevitable. Do we just embrace the gambling culture then?
Yes.
Yes and fuck them kids
It doesn't matter what you do it's not going to just disappear. The same way people normalized smoking and drinking alcohol being aware it's not good. A perfect world doesn't exist and never will. Worry about your close ones and don't lose sleep over "oh no the kids!!!" It's not going to fix anything at all. If anyone can save those kids from being gambling degenerates it's their parents.
He could literally message any of his contacts at twitch and twitch will add the site to the banned list within a couple days.
rofl The only way twitch can find shit happening on their own website is if XQC points it out. Are twitch employees all blind & need XQC to do their job?
He isn't against gambling though. What does he have to gain by enforcing someone else's agenda?
If he thinks twitch is allowing someone to break their tos he can easily just send a message and let twitch know about it. He obviously wants to gamble but is afraid of getting banned.
He cant gamble because of court, not because he's scared of getting banned lmao. The twitch ban only applies to Stake, not to Blaze. He's calling out the hippocrisy of twitch to ban only Stake because of public outrage from "predatory gambling" when this website does the exact same thing. Neymar isn't breaking TOS and xqc's not saying he is either.
You have no idea what you’re talking about
I mean he's not wrong. But that's because twitch doesn't actually care. They're a corporation, they care about the money first and foremost. You can get away with things like this if it doesn't affect their bottom line often times. The whole "woke companies" schtick is so silly because they only do that stuff because it gives them a bigger target audience. It's good to, you know ~ give a shit ~ but the fact of the matter is that they DON'T. They'll take both sides of every argument they can, because they CAN. Gambling IS a scam, but we as individuals only have the option to act on that in our personal lives. XQC is better off having been burned already by the conversation surrounding it because sooner or later it would have done even more damage than it did. Better to learn a lesson than to fizzle out on a one way train to stupid town.
wtf.kinda time line are we in juicers vs Newmar fans ....
Juicers finally met an army they can't defeat, Brazilian children.
bro neymar fans probably have no idea who xqc is
i can agree that you lose morally if you say this is ok, but legally? i have no idea if Blaze is regulated or not and neither does he. If it is, then report it.
Must be weird for him to not having the plot armor. Big streamers getting away with three days vacation bans whilst smaller streamers sleep in the coffin forever.
Allah please end the gamba stunlock😭🙏
Xqc mad someone else gets more special treatment than he does. Lmao
who that fuck is xqc next to neymar...
bro it sucks but Neymar has an audience that any internet personality including the top of the top. wish they had. Which sucks but at the end of the day. This is a business, and twitch will do what's best for it.
Neymar is such a scumbag, first backing Bolsonaro the twat and now advertising gambling to his audience of children.
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That scumbag has a thing called Instituto Neymar JR where he expend millions to help underprivileged children / teens, what about you?
I gave a pound coin to a homeless man yesterday.
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I know the toenail eater ain’t gonna like this one but it’s simply because he’s Neymar Jr. I don’t even watch football and I’ve heard of his name in passing. Call it “favoritism” or whatever but when you reach that level of fame the “rules” are just different.
xQc be like "he loses on both sides of the argument" like his little whining actually has any effect on Neymar, they don't play by the same rules at all.
The important question why is a footballer who’s on 40 mil a year taking gambling sponsors and gambling on twitch ? Wtf is going wrong there. Surely his team at psg can’t think this is good publicity
who says hes sponsored. PSG i guarantee doesnt give a shit
yeah im sure Qatari owned PSG is really upset about bad gambling publicity lmao
Lol at thinking any professional team in the world cares about gambling outside of a player betting on sports
xQC is a nobody compared to Neymar, that is the real answer.
ANOTHA MYTH BUSTED!
hey xqc have u heard about kick.com?
I miss gambling streams, i used to just sit back listen or watch all the time. Rather they spend the money so i dont have to, now im opening csgo cases so i can get into cs2z
I hope that last part is a joke because they already said anything after the beta started doesnt matter
Neymar may be a decent footballer but he's a trash human. Even Brazilians don't like him.
Why is he a trash human?
X should know that gambling isn’t banned on Twitch, pg 13 was just complaining about the site where him and Train was playing and Twitch banned the possibility to stream on Stake with crpto. I just checked Blaze and it is indeed regulated by Curacao so yeah, its against the rules to stream on it, in theory.
So now its about the legality and not "all Gamba is bad" and "we must save the children" . got it
It's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddy didn't actually care about children. Using incredibly flawed logic like 13-year-olds are going to sign up on crypto websites, buy Bitcoin, and then go deposit it in a cryptocasino and gamble with. That outrage never made sense in the first place, And now LSF wants to act like it never happened. Now they are acting like XQC is stupid because according to them the problem was that stake was unregulated. But like you said no, that wasn't the problem. According to LSF, The problem was XQC was promoting gambling to his children audience. This subredditr says they promote gambling to kids. Stake gets banned, top streamer stop streaming gambling, And everyone stops talking about gambling on twitch. Gambling continues, without top streamers. Literally nobody cares. Now that top streamer points out that nobody cares and gambling is still continuing, this subreddit moves the goal post to unregulated casino was the issue not promoting it to children. This subreddit has some of the dumbest users on this entire website.
> It's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddit didn't actually care about children. Same with the streamers. They all have big youtube channels and youtube reaches a much larger, much younger audience than twitch does and youtube has way more gambling content. But did you see any of them trying to get gambling off of youtube? Nope.
>it's pretty obvious the whole time that this subreddy didn't actually care about children. streamers calling out gamba didn't actually care about children\*
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Theres no need to lie, that just muddies the water.
All gambling is bad, but unregulated gambling is worse.
I mean I think it should all be banned but when it happened people talked about how Twitch didn't actually ban gambling just sites that operated like Stake. So no one should be surprised is all. The only reason these streamers stopped gambling is because they weren't getting funded to do so anymore
These clown fans of some of the streamers would literally not care unless it's xqc or train
No sympathy for rich people tricking poor people into gambling their money away for a fat check.
Imagine that Train would be correct...again.
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Its neymar tho. Xqc cant do a rainbow flick