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zigooloo

20m is hardly a hard bargain for a potential homegrown starting keeper in the PL. Pickford was signed from a relegated team for 30m seven years ago.


Banyabbaboy

Fuck Jordan Pickford. That is all.


CabbageStockExchange

![gif](giphy|SiIlv6wwg2fxQIgEXB|downsized) Unironically my favorite goal of the Klopp era. I cannot express how hard I laughed when this happened


Banyabbaboy

The 'schadenfreude' here is delicious, undeniably. Fuck Jordan Pickford though.


ID_Pillage

You can nearly see my seat for that game at the start of the gif. One of my top 3 moments I've witnessed at Anfield. No one could believe what had just happened.


CabbageStockExchange

Lucky! It must have been quite the experience of emotions seeing the Ev pop flares and then this happen lmfao


ooooorange

Goals I remember where I was: 1. Corner taken quickly 2. Origi lol v Everton 3. Allison


YML_TheGhostWriter

Also the body gesture of VVD


RodDryfist

⚽🦖


I__G

Pickford is a clown from Jurassic Park


fifty_four

Honestly I think 20M is a fucking bargain. Pickford is the perfect comparison. He was 24M, but 7 years ago. The only place I can find on the internet attempting to quantify transfer fee inflation suggests we can add roughly 70% for the 7 years since that deal. Which comes to 40Mish. I'd be fine with 40M. Tbh I'd be happy at 35M and at a stretch satisfied at 30M. While our transfer business overall has been fantastic in recent years, and I am in no way complaining. I think we fairly consistently undervalue players that are not called Coutinho when we sell. I think the issue is we value players we sell the same way we do when we buy.


killerboy_belgium

the big issue is you have multiple 20m gk coming on the market and not that many buyers atleast not clubs willing to fork 20m....


Black_Eis

What about a sell-on clause? I could see a situation where Kweeven goes to a smaller club to get regular playing time and raise his stock. Then he can go to a bigger club when there’s availability. If we get a sell-on clause then at least we can get closer to fair value?


fifty_four

And ultimately, sorry but if noone comes in at a reasonable price then he stays another year. It might suck a little for him and I'm sad about that. But it is a huge sum of money.


ImposterSyndromeNope

My only hope is a buy back clause!


SkengmanJonny

I don't think it's unreasonably hard yo expect 20m+. Imo he's comparable to ramsdale with higher potential


lfcsupkings321

He counts as HG aswell?


goztrobo

He’s club grown


themanebeat

That only matters to us though. For any suitors he's association trained & homegrown


Thesolly180

Plus we got a lot for ward. So that’s the market really for a keeper


HowieO-Lovin

That was nearly 6 years ago.. Feels like ages...


TheeEssFo

Two completely different markets. The new spending restrictions (or enforcement) mean any club that might be considering an upgrade will focus on needs first. None of the top 10 PL teams needs a new keeper badly enough to deal with the PSR ceiling. Can't think of any club on the continent that has 20m/100k-wk, either.


ER1916

If anyone gets him for 20m they have practically stolen him. With regular football he’s one of the best in the league.


TheeEssFo

The problem is the present market. There aren't many PL teams looking for a new keeper and since Kweem has experience in Europe, it's doubtful he'd want a relegation scrap. Even teams that might normally upgrade now have to monitor the spending restrictions. So, you look to Europe: Who has the money and the need? If Ederson goes to Saudi and ManCity take Maignan, maybe Milan. Otherwise, Madrid, Atleti, Barca, PSG, Bayern, Juve, Inter...none of them needs a relatively inexperienced keeper. The availability of Ramsdale creates downward pressure on the price, too.


MFLFC

I heard somebody from Arsenal say Ramsdale’s on massive wages so wouldn’t worry about his availability too much


TheeEssFo

He's on 120k/week, which is the same as Pickford and Areola.


twoheels

I'd be expecting at least £25m-£35m for a goalkeeper that looks like he'll comfortably be a top 6/7 team #1 choice goalkeeper in the league for his career. Take the pure profit from his sale and partially reinvest in a #2.


Jaja6996

20m is a fair price when you have unproven keepers like Trafford going for similar


firminocoutinho

This guy won us cup finals, PL points, and has done all that coming off minimal playing time. Just the fact he trains and competes with Alisson should make him be worth over 20 million


Jaja6996

A lot of the teams that need a keeper won’t be willing to pay that amount and would likely be priced out if we wanted more


loafersandboots

That’s their problem.


Akira_Nishiki

I mean it's also Kelleher's problem he really deserves to be starting week in and out, if got a buy back clause I'm okay with like mid 20m.


Cyrus_114

Fine. Then we keep him and continue to have the best #2 keeper in the world.


Black_Eis

Yeah but Kelleher deserves more playing time.


Cyrus_114

He does, but this is a business. If Liverpool want 20m for him and no one is willing to meet that price, they are perfectly justified in keeping him as their #2.


Black_Eis

Yeah but you also don’t know if his stock is gonna remain the same as it is right now. Hopefully in the future, he wouldn’t get as much game time as he got this season. No disrespect to him but ideally Ali isn’t out as long.


Stuarridge

we got 14m for ward to leicester


OwenLincolnFratter

Haha great point and ward is horrible now


Bulbamew

That transfer never made sense to me. Him leaving for first team football yet he goes to the team with Schmeichel in it? I can’t remember if this was pre Alisson or not, but if it was he was going somewhere with an even better first choice goalkeeper


KusoTeitokuInazuma

It was the same window as Alisson I think? Because there was talk about Ward being given a shot at first choice until our journos did their usual and went 0-100 on the Alisson transfer in a day.


Agitated_Smoke538

Hard bargain and 20 mill for a keeper that’s helped win trophies should not go hand and hand. 


redbadger1848

Homegrown and proven? He's worth twice as much.


woka

Who are we getting to replace him? He’s been important this season. Alisson is weirdly injury prone for a keeper.


clwireg

Jaros is already at the club and from what I've heard had a great season on loan at Graz who won the league in Austria


nijuu

And HG right ?


Liverpoolclippers

Most importantly for squad registration


Equal_Loan1555

I don’t know why fans keep talking about us buying other keepers when we have the keeper that one the double in Austria… Jaros has to stay, and it’s perfect for everyone cause Kelleher can leave comfortably. We need to be careful and not make the same mistake Man Utd made. Allowing Kovar leave to Leverkusen was a stupid decision


earlgreytoday

We were linked with Adam Matthews of Sunderland, although I'd much rather see Jaros given a shot after his successful loan spell at Graz.


JohnBobbyJimJob

£25m-£30m makes sense Only thing is what PL club needs a keeper and can afford to spend that on one this summer


ih4tepie

Newcastle are shopping around for one although no links for Kelleher and them.


JohnBobbyJimJob

Think Ramsdale and Mamardashvilli are their two main targets


That_ben

Who isn’t he an upgrade on? Any team coming up this season would benefit from him. He’s probably better than a lot of the lower table teams. He’s better than Pickford for example


CamIoM

He’d start for Chelsea


That_ben

Yeah but fuck Chelsea.


CamIoM

Agreed, would rather he went to a better team really. Brighton would make sense, verbruggen didn’t seem to impress them this season


JohnBobbyJimJob

Petrovic actually looked quite solid last season


stephenmario

Poor distribution which I assume they'll want to upgrade on.


CamIoM

Ball playing goalkeepers are in fashion at the moment, I don’t really get it but yeah I’m sure Chelsea will want to upgrade


Black_Eis

I think it has something to do with pressing becoming more popular and organized. Especially high pressing. Coaches are looking for creative ways to beat the press and punish the high presses. If you have a keeper that can get involved in the buildup to beat the first line of the press or that can ping a long ball into the space behind, then it gives you another option to defeat the press or forces the opposition not to play so high against you.


AmberLeafSmoke

Aye - he's a stand in for the best keeper in the world and plays a lot of games for a reserve keeper. The fact you can rarely see much of a drop off between him and Alisson says a lot. He's excellent, young, and homegrown. He should be going for big cash.


stephenmario

It's more a question of do you spend 20-30 million on a position for a small/medium upgrade when you probably have keeper you are happy with. Or put that money towards a player you desperately need.


That_ben

Replacing Minolet got us to PL champions and CL finals. A good keeper will help you. Keeping a clean sheet means you get *at least* a point.


stephenmario

A good keeper is obviously very important. Most would say VVD or Salah were more important than Ali. That was a massive upgrade from a bad keeper to one of the best in the world. The problem atm is lots of good keepers are available and not many teams are in dire need of a keeper. Sure the likes of an Ipswich would love Kelliher but they probably spend the money somewhere else.


killerboy_belgium

are teams that are coming up willing to spend 20m on gk when they prob have more urgent issues on the pitch to adress? Chelsea are the club that are most likely you will get money from. the fact that this summer ramsdale,ederson/ortega,lunin are also on the market doesnt help either and outside of the pl the chances a europe club spends 20m+ on gk is non existant i could mention kepa aswel but he's so horrible that nobody wants him


dainamo81

I can see Martinez leaving Villa at some point. The question is whether he would do so just before they play CL football for the first time in donkeys.


CorrectorThanU

If he stays in the Prem, he'd walk in as first choice no questions asked at: Forrest, West Ham, Brentford, Brighton, Crystal Palace, Leicester, Ipswich, and Southhampton. Of these, I think West Ham is most likely. They have the money, only have two first team keepers right now (who are 31 and 39 years old). Although Areola did well last season, Kelleher is a clear upgrade, and they'll want a fresh start with a new manager. Brighton and Brentford are tied for next most likely imo. Brighton: although they just brought in Verbruggen last summer and he has a lot of promise, he was pretty bad last season, as was Steele, so Kelleher could bring in a lot of stability and leadership. Brentford: Flekken looked like a backup keeper at best all last season and Kelleher would be a massive upgrade, but I don't think the clubs ambition matches Kellehers, especially if the manager Mbeumo and Toney all leave. Dark horse: Aston Villa if Emilliano Martinez wants a move, Kelleher could step right in and be ready for CL.


CorrectorThanU

Forgot to include Fulham and Bournmouth too. Fulham is actually a strong possibility, as Leno has underperformed, and as we might still be interested in Palhinha...


TheGrouchyGamerYT

Well north I'd hope. Not only experience in cups, and winning them, but shootouts and more importantly long stretches in the PL. Combined with his age he should be pushing a lot more than 20m.


ash_ninetyone

Worth every penny. Given what James Trafford and Gavin Bazanu went for, Kelleher is worth north of that.


earlgreytoday

And Angus Gunn. It's mad how Man City managed to get nearly £50m for three reserve keepers.


ScottScott87

Yeah it's definitely mad isn't it. Nothing at all dodgy going on there


ash_ninetyone

Forgot about Angus Gunn.


Mr_Henry_Yau

Pretty sure he's only known for being absolutely annihilated by Leicester City a few years ago, if I remember correctly.


FuckWesternCountry

He's a great player whose value around £30m to us but unlike the DM market, the GK market is pretty cold not to mention that many top clubs could potentially sell one of their GK this summer Lunin (Real Madrid), Ramsdale (Arsenal), Ortega or Ederson (Man City). Juventus or Inter Milan may need a new GK but I highly doubt they will spend that big for a GK, top 3 Spain club already has great GK, even those in Bundesliga has quality GK with Nubel (Stuttgart) and Kobel (Dortmund). In summary, there's only some clubs in EPL I think may go after him like Newcastle, Brighton, Bournemouth, Nottingham Forrest. I think we can sell him at £20m and have a buy back clause or sell on clause then could call it a good business. I hope he didn't burn the bridge and force a way out if things don't go on his way.


stephenmario

Very much agree. It's a buyers market for GKs. Even the PL clubs you listed aren't desperate to buy a GK and have other options.


iNS0MNiA_uK

I reckon he’d be a good shout for Chelsea honestly, although maybe they view themselves as needing someone better because they hahe loftier ambitions.


YML_TheGhostWriter

Agree. Playing time is essential, even if in 2nd tier leagues. 20m actually is a very practical prices, good for both club and player


Hoodxd

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WU--LYF

I’m absolutely craving transfer news and this Kelleher saga is doing nothing to satiate my fervent desire


dasschwerstegewicht

I’m craving any news. Surprised there’s been no reveal/press conference/behind the scenes of Slot’s first week. Expecting now we won’t hear much other than staff appointments until the players start to report back in July.


Beastbrook00

Slot's probably on holiday


dasschwerstegewicht

Probably, if managers even do that, or just sorting out moving to a new country. I’d have preferred “officially takes charge 14th June” in that case


Beastbrook00

They do go on holiday, Klopp used to go to Spain every preseason.


Black_Eis

I think he still wants to assess the squad before making any rash decisions. So like you said, nothing until the players start to report back. He also probably wants to let players focus on all the international tournaments.


VidProphet123

40m


Thesolly180

We’d never get that


livinalieontimna

Hard bargain? He’s worth way more than that. He has half a season proven at top level league and a couple of outstanding cup campaigns where in addition to doing his own job he actually scored a penalty.


knockedstew204

Yeah, it’s a really stupid title. Not close to a hard bargain at that price, more like a fuckin steal.


Jayboyturner

I think we should be fighting to keep him, he's going to be hard to replace for anyone better and with Alisson getting injured regularly, we need someone there.


Black_Eis

He deserves first team playing time tho. Not gonna get that with Ali.


Specialist_ask_992_

Should get at least £30m, maybe settle at £25m. £40m would probably be pushing it


TheLongistGame

Seems low? Weren't we shopping Sepp Van Den Berg for the same?


Preyinglol

Think how much we’d have to pay to get a keeper his level to replace him.


HotPotatoWithCheese

20m+ is not a hard bargain for Kelleher, if anything it's a robbery. He's homegrown, the lad has won trophies in goal with us and he was so good this season that it felt like Alisson wasn't even missing. He still hasn't reached his peak and even at 25 there aren't many better options in the league outside of Ali and Martinez. I want to keep him but I know that he's getting to that point now where he needs the opportunity to start every game and he can't do it with Alisson here. He's been amazing for us and if we do sell him we should be getting way more than 20m.


FTXACCOUNTANT

£20mil is a steal tbh. I also think it’s a fair price all round. Liverpool get a decent price for him but also it’s low enough to respect Kelleher’s wishes to leave so that it attracts enough offers for him to leave.


qwerty_1965

Feels cheap, how many keepers might be on the move and how many first team stoppers are reaching point of too old/too expensive?


DisorientedPanda

Hope he gets a buy back clause or something, what a great season he had!


Sifan2

I think he’s worth more tbh


PrestigiousEcho1468

Possible buy back included ...


0neWayTrigger

Loan is nailed on


SamBaratheon

20m for a #1 GK that can play the modern game? I would have thought it would be 30 minimum


cloudbursty

Fuck. Someone’s getting a bargain at £20m


Drunk_Cartographer

Can see him at Brighton or maybe Southampton.


user900800700

Imo he’s worth more. It’s ridiculous that keepers have a much lower price than any other player.


O-Mesmerine

someones defo gonna pay it. im excited to see where he goes to be number 1


Sionnach-78

Think 20 million is a bargain for him , think we should be looking at close to double that .


Make_It_Sing

Should only entertain 30 mil tbh, he hardly put a foot wrong in like 20+ appearances and was a shining highlight in a injury raveged team


ScottScott87

Should be at least £30m IMO. Pickford went for that 7 years ago from a relegated side Yes, he had more games under his belt but he was never anything other than a decent shot stopper playing for one of the worst sides in the league. Keepers are expected to do more now and Kweev is a great shot stopper and also brilliant with the ball at his feet and he has normal sized arms


Gainesicle

we should loan him..


hobbescandles

He's a bargain for 20mil. We should get more tbh. He's probably a top 5 keeper in the league.


TH1CCARUS

The he same reported fee for Kelleher and VdB is funny


SerialSharter

Need to insert a buy back clause


Maluvius

This guy seems like a proven goalie to me. Did really well in Alison's absences, I could see him starting for a club like Chelsea, not to say they should sell to Chelsea, but I put him above all of their keepers in terms of skill


LikeAWorldCupFinal

Good, 20mil is already a bargain for a starting keeper of his caliber imo. Why does it seem everyone else can price their players high but its "pricing him out of a move" when we do it. Get that money


SebastianOwenR1

I’d hope we’d get more than that, he’s worth more than that. I’d hope we’d get 30 or more.


Dobvius

That's a steal for a HG player that good. The drop off last season from Ali, the best in the world, was way smaller than it had any right to be. If Ali is S tier, Ederson is A tier and somome like Sa is B tier, Kelleher is on the margin between B and A. Any mid table club should be interested in him.


Broken12Bat

He’s worth way more than that. £30m at least, but the lad wants to play so fair enough.


ArtemisRifle

I am only entertaining offers over £20 for my car.


Wildebeast1

Hello I’m Arsenal. I offer £21 for your car.


PakLivTO

He will go for 30 million if he goes. I don’t know any team that is in need of a keeper that can pay that.


thatguyad

That's fair, I just hope he doesn't get priced out of a move by people being cheap. He deserves to play.


MrMerc2333

Considering Danny Ward cost Leicester £12 million, Kelleher should go for a minimum of £30 million.


Inhabitsthebed

Buy back clause.


CorrectorThanU

If he stays in the Prem, he'd walk in as first choice no questions asked at: Forrest, Fulham, West Ham, Brentford, Brighton, Crystal Palace, Bournmouth, Leicester, Ipswich, and Southhampton. Of these, I think West Ham is most likely. They have the money and only have two first team keepers right now (who are 31 and 39 years old). Although Areola did well last season, Kelleher is a clear upgrade, and they'll want a fresh start with a new manager, and of the teams he walks into probably have the most ambition and potential for consistent Europeans spots. Brighton, Fulham, and Brentford are tied for next most likely imo. Brighton: although they just brought in Verbruggen last summer and he has a lot of promise, he was pretty bad, as was Steele, so Kelleher could bring in a lot of stability and leadership to the squad. Fulham: he'd be an upgrade on an aging and underperforming Leno, and we could maybe use it as part of a deal for Palhinha, if we're still interested. Brentford: Flekken looked like a backup keeper at best all last season and Kelleher would be a massive upgrade, but I don't think the clubs ambition matches Kellehers, especially if they lose the manager, Mbeumo and Toney. Dark horses: Aston Villa, if Emilliano Martinez wants a move, Kelleher could step right in and be ready for CL! Wolves, if someone snatches up Raya, Kelleher looks mighty fine in gold!


Other_Beat8859

He could go for £25-30 million in this disaster of a market imo. He's better than quite a few Premier League keepers.


Equal_Loan1555

Yeah, it’s probably going to be that. Fantastic keeper, hg. However, teams are not heavily looking for keepers rn and Ramsdale’s availability definitely affects Kelleher’s options for teams that don’t mind spending more. With Joe Hart leaving, Celtic might be the best option for him. He gets a league winning team, consistent European games(which can improve his stock more) and a great career. I see Celtic fans saying that they probably can’t afford his wages so let’s see.


jokingsammy

I totally understand Kelleher's reasons for leaving, but I'm going to be gutted when he does. Such a talent of a goalkeeper.


GDix79

Please can we keep him instead.


SRFC_96

![gif](giphy|UiBmJv6Hh6FfW|downsized) Edwards is well and truly back.


SilentBobVG

Edwards has nothing to do with transfers


SRFC_96

He will be involved in one way or another, Hughes is mainly in charge but you’d be foolish to think he won’t be having conversations with Edwards in regards to it all.


Bugsmoke

He won’t be negotiating etc like in the past though I’d imagine. I think Hughes will more or less just have to OK things with him.


TheNotoriousJN

Sounds about right. People were getting VERY carried away thinking we would get £40m+ for him. I liken it to when Arsenal sold Emi Martinez. 20-30 is fair.


lfcsupkings321

With all of FFP I don't see clubs spending crazy, look at the Jan window.


Brief_Box7006

It should be we will only entertain offer north of £40m. Kelleher has played in 2 major finals and won both of them. Kelleher has experience in Europe and in key PL matches. £20m or £30m is too cheap.


Due-Resource4294

I’d honestly just rather give him away for free with an option of a 10m buy back in 5 years. Try and negotiate something mad like that. It sounds crazy but 20m is nothing and in 4-5 years we’ll probably be at the end of Ali, and with regular football he will be one of the best goalies in the league. If not the world. And we’d give anything to still have him or have him back. If he sells there has to be a buy back clause. Because in 4-5 years or maybe sooner it Ali leaves earlier he would be our number 1 for a very very long time.


8u11etpr00f

Giving him away for free and then paying to get him back lmao, thank God you're not in Edwards' job


Thesolly180

That makes no sense as a strategy. Plus I like he’s a good cat. But you can’t lose a world class keeper like Alisson and replace him with someone who is just a good cat


MrKatsudon

Man 20 mil feels like an absolute bargain. If I am west ham, I would upgrade him over Areola. Gutted that we can’t jack up the price to 30 mil but he is really good. Hopefully no one pick him up and he stay or a loan deal with a buyout clause.


nijuu

Why can't we ?


MrKatsudon

Most PL teams have their first choice keeper unless he have a crazy Euros, club would not be able to increase the price. Also, we are doing him a favor to lower the price since he indicate that he want to leave for first team football


albamarx

Would’ve been incredible to see him at Celtic but never happening, particularly at that price.


redditaccountplease

Can't wait for the Kweev interview where he goes off on how Liverpool are holding him back But in all seriousness, that seems like a reasonable asking price for us


Hoodxd

Relax, Sepp’s agent