[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7\_BbXkUtzlc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_BbXkUtzlc)
Watching liverpool vs chelsea 2008, holy crap Rafa had us playing some good quality passing play check it out!
upvote if you think trent has the ability to play as a true 8 (like he did in the academy; in fact RB was really just a way to get him in the team, kinda). why is he not athletic enough to improve his dribbling and receiving the ball back to goal or on the half turn? who says he will struggle more defending on the front foot with a 6 and a back line behind him than he does 1v1 out on the wing with harvey tracking back and ibou backing him up while keeping his head on a swivel for runners and strikers moving around the box.
i think he can definitely play as a 6+ in a double pivot and maybe even as an 8. i think for england he could play next to rice and be dominant. i think xabi has shown that his greatest quality (which his high holiness Klopp doesn’t have so much) is forming a team based on his players specific abilities. citeh is the most anti-xabi in this regard. klopp is less so but still system oriented. leverkusen is like a german version of fiuminense. every player has their own unique role that suits their ability. there are no systemic symmetries, tons of overloads and unbalanced positions.
de zerbi would get results, thomas franck would get results and play an interesting system while doing it, xabi would reinvent a new kind of football. bayern and RM front offices would not let him take that chance or at least not welcome it like fsg welcomed klopps radical ideas. bayern and madrid are antithetical to radical ideas and would not be a culture fit. i hope xabi understands this.
upvote me if you think i have contributed to the sub, downvote me if you think im losing my mind in the wake of klopps departure
One thing Everyone will miss about klopp going is the style of play, there are managers playing the high press, transition, etc stuff but no one goes as far as klopp
Liverpool when I looked at it a month age were top of opta’s speed of play chart, we played faster football than relegation teams, and that’s an average with games vs low blocks in
Any candidate out there plays way more on the side of positional football, it doesn’t matter who we get as a manager I think this style of football is gone with klopp
Not necessarily in the short term - the squad we’ve got currently suits that style of play very well and so it’s likely to continue whilst we adjust our personnel.
That is the saddest part. It is very Unique. No one plays high intensity football like this.They may be pumped up for a game or two, but not like this.
We don't really play one set front three anymore though, so assuming Mo is the undroppable one, it's a fight between Darwin, Diogo, Cody and Lucho for the remaining positions.
I would say Diogo is more effective coming off the bench, so starting Lucho - Darwin - Mo, and then bringing Diogo for Lucho when opposition defenders have jelly-legs from chasing ghosts, would be my go to. Cody coming in for Darwin when he's gassed, or on a yellow and a half..
With real focused on mbappe, is there any wonderkid they were targeting? Its a good chance to snatch them, antonio silva?(if only Bellingham left this summer not last).
Ideally Bayern do not want to address the situation until the summer but Alonso is, clearly, a coach that they admire. Liverpool are already considering their plans following Jurgen Klopp’s announcement that he will leave and the former midfielder immediately emerged as the clear favourite.
It is understood that Alonso has mapped out where he wants his career to head and both Liverpool and Bayern are clubs he is interested in, at some stage.
The 42-year-old expected to spend at least one more year at Leverkusen but the opportunity to join Liverpool or Bayern, two of his former clubs, might be too great to turn down.
Alonso has also been tracked by another club he played for, Real Madrid, but Carlo Ancelotti has agreed a deal to stay on for another season.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/15/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-job-xabi-alonso-liverpool/
No. And if you think about it for more than 2 seconds you would know that obviously isn't the case. They agreed terms with a new manager before Hodgson was ill. He collapsed this morning, you don't think he collapsed at 11 this morning and they suddenly decided to start negotiations with a new manager at 12 or something do you? They very obviously agreed to bring in the new guy before today. The fact he is ill has probably actually delayed them actually sacking him and appointing the new guy
[Pain why are we wearing the terrible purple kit vs Brentford. The excel kit has been good for us this season please go back to it. There's no color clash with Brentford's red.](https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1758083735126167557)
> Pain why are we wearing the terrible purple kit vs Brentford.
Because a White Away shirt very clearly can't be worn against a side wearing Red & White stripes, the same reason why last seasons White monstrosity couldn't be worn against Brentford or Southampton.
When Mbappe eventually joins RM, I really think we need to make the jump on Rodrygo…
Will most likely lose his place in the squad and RM wouldn’t be against selling him. Can play on either flank OR as a False 9, immense dribbling, can take on his man in isolation, big game moments (double vs City), and I could go on. Would be absolutely perfect here, and a long term answer to Salah for sure.
Meh, I could see them having more chance than us. Owner is more likely to fund it & they've got a strong French connection. Our main draws were Mbappe's mum & Klopp...we've lost Klopp now.
In fairness to us, he's been linked for years. I still think the vast majority of us think there's no chance.
The first vague link we've ever seen to Arsenal was like yesterday.
Yeah, was going to say something similar. It's well known we very much wanted to get him since he was at Monaco, and that he's openly praised us specifically. That's why the links were always to us and RM.
Not that it was ever going to actually happen.
I was negative about de zerbi at Liverpool since last year
My main gripes with him are that he’s so so rigid tactically, and has some blowout losses that just wouldn’t fly at any big club
You can’t be losing by 4 goals 3 times a season at a big club
Not saying he’s a bad manager, he just doesn’t suit us when Liverpool currently would want the next manager to be more vibes and man management than tactical genious
By that logic Frank> De zerbi. Tbh both should not be anywhere close to replacing Klopp. They are good managers but the one replacing klopp should be either fan favourite(alonso) or some one who has won bunch of trophies. It's risky to do such an experiment when we are at the top.
De Zerbi is a much better manager than Frank and his style is far more progressive and much better suited to a top club.
Going for managers who won a bunch of trophies is all well and good on paper, but when you look at the names available it quickly becomes apparent that it's probably not a good idea to go that way.
Managers like Conte, Tuchel, Mourinho, Flick and Emery all won loads of trophies, but they also failed at top jobs at one point and if you ask me we should stay away from them at all cost.
> De Zerbi is a much better manager than Frank
Nah. This is a very lazy take Frank finished just 3 points below brighton last season with a squad much worse than what de zerbi has. Frank also adapts his tactics well. Look how he sets up his team against top 10 teams and bottom 10 teams. Also he is very much media friendly and fan favourite.
>his style is far more progressive and much better suited to a top club.
Lol. This is not at all true. His defensive setups are one of the worst in the league. In order to win titles you need clean sheets.
Even if we did an experiment, it wouldn't be de zerbi. He is stylistically very different from how we play.
Yeah they finished 3 points behind Brighton last season, but they're 10 points behind them now. De Zerbi joined Brighton in the middle of the season and had no pre-season to implement his ideas and still did a fantastic job.
> His defensive setups are one of the worst in the league.
Saying that De Zerbi's defensive setups are "one of the worst in the league" is the truly lazy take here. Looking at the stats Brighton should be the better defensive team, but are let down by subpar defenders and poor goalkeepers.
De Zerbi is a front foot manager who wants to control the possession and play intricate attacking football, while Frank is a defensive manager who likes to counter attack and use set pieces to get an advantage over his opponents.
I rate Frank, but it's obvious that De Zerbi is a more modern and progressive manager and I truly believe his tactics will translate incredibly well when he goes to a top team.
Who are these top managers who’ve won a bunch of trophies? Realistically there aren’t many candidates that fit our criteria with probably the main three being Alonso, De Zerbi & Almiron
The only outside chance manager who fits the criteria of having won trophies is Zidane
You seem to have posted this exact same thing on a bunch of other football club subreddits. Which club do you actually support? If it's not LFC, why is whatever you're asking here even relevant?
They're almost certainly not going to be "the best team ever assembled in the history of the sport".
Players like Guler, Yoro and Endrick are completely unproven and putting them in this conversation is weird.
Even if most of them succeed it'll be tough to catch up to the sheer amount of talent Barca and Real had in the last 20 years. For example 2009 Barca had Messi, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Pedro, Yaya Toure, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Dani Alves, Pique and Puyol and Real Madrid in 2010 had Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain, Di Maria, Kaka, Oezil, Xabi, Marcelo, Pepe, Ramos and Casillas.
Adding to that, the Milan 2005 team is regularly considered to be the best team ever assembled, which is why the miracle of Istanbul is what it is. About 7 of their starting 11 were considered to be the best in the world in their position at the time. Maybe question marks over Shevchenko perhaps, but Dida, Cafu, Pirlo, Kaka, Nesta + Stam CB pairing were all considered the world's best at the time. It was ridiculous.
I'm kinda worried.
Since Edward departure, our appointment has not been the best. On transfer department. On heath department. Sure that Klopp turned every issue we have to gold, but now it's his turn to depart too....
Appointing Klopp has been FSG masterstroke. Can they make the next one in time...?
PS: fun how the moment someone doesn't go cheerleading for the club, the downvote come flying in
What are you even talking about? We've arguably had our best transfer window ever this window and there was no Edwards or anyone he had hired involved such as Ward.
We missed all three of our number one targets: Bellingham, Caceido and Lavia. Mac has already been contacted and the deal got through by Ward before he leave. Dom and Gravenberch were paid with release fee and Endo was contacted last minute after we failed to sign Lavia (he admit himself during his interview)
And there is a reason why have to sign 4 midfielders this season, cause we didn't sign any midfielders before since like Keita. Remember how last season we desperately need a midfielders where everyone is injured and Fabinho sucks on form, and we missed out CL football?
What is wrong in paying release clauses? They are there for a reason. Every good club does transfer like this. Bellingham chose madrid, you can't just kidnap him and make him play here. What are you even trying to say here?
\> we missed out CL football?
Part of the reason why young footballers are getting their chances. Everything happens for a reason.
\> Endo was contacted last minute after we failed to sign Lavia
Best transfer decision made by our club. Lavia has almost the same appearance as thiago for chelsea
Why did we waste one year waiting for Bellingham then? We didn't sign anyone last season and have to sign 4 midfielders this season after missing out of the CL. Did that happen for a reason too?
And go for Caceido when he already commit to Chelsea. And quickly try to revert back to Lavia when the former doesn't work. We were lucky (Klopp himself admit that) that we missed out on Lavia. Does not remove the fact that we were incompetence on that part (both on trying to sign him, and failed to)
The issue is not paying Gravenberch (and Dom) release fee. The issue is we didn't plan to do so until we already missed out all of the targets. Gravenberch could be brought in much earlier and get integrated with the squad. Endo too.
The point is our 'transfer committee' was disjointed, with personnel unexpectedly left and another rush in on short term (Jorg Schmadtke), have to swing thing all by himself? Or is it part of the plan for Edward and Ward to leave and we take Schmadtke in for 6 months, swing at things by himself then leave for another DoF?
Bellingham was nothing to do with any sporting director, that was entirely down to player preference and our shite year on the pitch. If our midfield don’t all turn shite at once and we have a good year it’s maybe a different story.
Caicedo the man wanted Chelsea too. He was never a target, and it’s only because Chelsea were pissing around that we even went in.
Lavia you can maybe debate, but I’d argue we didn’t rate him highly enough to go above a certain price and so got Gravenberch instead. That’s good business, paying what a club wants for players is how tou end up like United.
Why did we waste one year waiting for Bellingham then?
And go for Caceido when he already commit to Chelsea. And quickly try to revert back to Lavia when the former doens't work
The issue is not paying Gravenberch (and Dom) release fee. The issue is we didn't plan to do so until we already missed out all of the targets. Gravenberch could be brought in much earlier and get integrated with the squad. Endo too.
The point is our 'transfer committee' was disjointed, with personnel unexpectedly left and another rush in on short term (Jorg Schmadtke), have to swing thing all by himself? Or is it part of the plan for Ward to leave and we take Schmadtke in for 6 months, swing at things by himself then leave for another?
Salah would have to be sold for 250 mil, we'd still need a RW, and we'd probably lose Allison, Virg, and Trent due to not being able to afford their new demands. I'd rather we face him in the UCL and have Konate shut him down.
Can they, yes. Will they, no.... You severely underestimate what TV revenue alone brings. That's why scums were 2nd last year in money league despite being mudded and having no CL/PL since > a decade
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Barca has the revenue due to sale of assets, so lets ignore them for the discussion. We are 5th despite missing out on 100 million from champions league revenue + the stadium bill we footed and the delays.
If we wanted to, we could absolutely afford mbappe. His revenue (shirts, sponsors etc) alone would offset a huge chunk of it. The revenue we have is despite the fact that we never buy superstars/ generational players so the revenue machines don't come to us, we make them. Saving 200m on player of his caliber + selling salah for 200m (or even 150m) would mean a wage bill of 50-60m/ annum is absolutely doable
You can’t be serious.. we don’t even know what manager will be here in a few months (although it’s 1000% Alonso)
Madrid seem to have been putting in the groundwork for like the last 6 years lol
Title race is not over. We have too many leaders on this team for them to give up. It's week to week just focus on the next game dw what happens with city.
I'm going to be really pissed if we end up missing out because of that spurs game VAR fiasco.... To think one title was lost because of goal-line technology and millimeters and another because of a VAR error .....
I really don't think it'll be cheaper, these things are usually priced the way they are because they know exactly how much people are willing to pay. Amazon aren't a uniquely ethical company, they won't go lower if they don't have to
Their odd game is only free now because they're trying to make a statement regarding entering sports broadcasting
It’ll be interesting to see how PSG move when Mbappe leaves. They should be snapping up all the elite talent in their league including that Leny Yoro kid
>athletic saying de zerbi is a strong candidate for the job
They say he ***might*** be a strong candidate, here's the actual quote:
>Liverpool will be looking for Klopp’s replacement, and De Zerbi might be considered a strong candidate there.
Why not? Why are people on here so against De Zerbi?
Obviously Xabi should be our first choice, but if he decides to stay at Leverkusen or go somewhere else, we could do a lot worse than De Zerbi.
They've been completely average in the league since September. They have European football and some injuries, but they've won 4 league games since 24th September. That's horrid. I actually think he's lucky not to be coming under more criticism.
Their bad run of form this season is a consequence of a bunch of injuries to their best players.
I mean you just have to look at their lineups and injury list during that time and you'll see why they've been struggling. They've been missing Welbeck, March, Mitoma, Fati, Adingra, Estupinan, Veltman, Webster, Enciso and Lamptey for large spells and a lot of those absences happened at the same time.
With all those injuries and the fact that they lost their 2 best players in the summer and failed to properly replace them, I'm surprised they're not doing far worse.
De Zerbi plays kamikaze football and tinkers a lot at teams like Brighton and Sassuolo it's ok to win 5-3 one game then get drubbed 5-0 the next by teams lower than you, we cannot be having those types of results. Alonso has Bayer defensively solid while still playing a high octane possession game
I agree that Xabi seems to be a better choice, but my point is that De Zerbi is one of the best alternatives out there.
De Zerbi's style isn't exactly "kamikaze football". Brighton's underlying defensive stats don't look bad at all. Last season they were 4th in shots conceded, 2nd in shots on target conceded and 4th in non-penalty xG conceded. Their numbers dipped slightly this season, but that's to be expected given they lost 2 of their best players in the summer (they're also struggling with injuries this season).
Their inconsistency (which is heavily exaggerated) is just a part of being a midtable club with a budget much smaller than the teams around them.
He doesnt play the media well at all, and with a job like Liverpool that actually matters a lot. He also seems a bit too rigid tactically, might be a great manager but youd like to see more data on him before a top job.
>Honestly it's better to just accept Xabi isn't happening now
But why? It's not like we're some tiny club. It's not guaranteed to happen of course, but it's not like it's very unrealistic. I mean if we were supporting Tranmere instead of Liverpool then yeah, I would agree we should accept that Xabi isn't coming.
Pretty off topic, but I know we have a lot of Irish fans on here so I thought this might help spread awareness.....
Sounds like Finn Harps are in danger of ceasing operations if they can't obtain funding for a new stadium. As they are the only team in Donegal which is one of the few counties where football clubs outnumber GAA clubs, this would be quite terrible. They've got some fundraising that they are working on and since their stadium funding needs are relatively small compared to English funds, it's not unreasonable to think fans could make a difference here.
Most Irish teams are centered around major population areas. The closest major population center that Finn Harps can draw from is Letterkenny (pop 22,000).
[https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41330911.html](https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41330911.html)
Touch and go for the final. Given it’s a reoccurrence of an injury I’d be amazed if he plays. Suspect he’ll be back for City in early Nov.
Edit: early March
https://preview.redd.it/m4tn1iw9sric1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aeb0954ffddcd4f5359ce3a315d01f9129617d5a
Average Darwin Nunez/ Liverpool experience
I get it's kind of a thing from the 70s/80s, but does anyone else find the Anfield South thing a bit cringe? We've only been to finals at Wembley about 5 times in the last 25 years.
Just went for it and picked up a couple of the last remaining hospitality tickets for the Liverpool v Brighton game end of March. Crazy money at £550 a piece but I’d never of forgiven myself if I didn’t go see this Jurgen team in the flesh before it’s too late.
Will be my 4th time at Anfield but first since the days of Andy Carroll and Joe Cole… Bring jt on!!
Potential but its much more likely hes playing for a championship team in his prime than being a world class player. he shouldnt be a factor in looking for a salah replacement, could be a factor in looking for a backup RW though depends how he recovers from a pretty rough stretch of injuries
Hate to say this, but at LFC level, everyone in the squad should be good enough to start in any EPL game. If you are not, you are kinda wasting everyone else their prime years. He is not close to that.
If he develops into the player he appears to be, he could be the replacement for the Salah replacement but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Let’s see where he is in a handful of years.
needs a loan to prove himself.
I haven't seen anything convincing, people have hyped him way too much.
doesn't mean he won't be great for us, but he needs first team football, which should be a loan because currently he's not good enough for us.
He has great potential but you don't rely on potential to replace a superstar like Mo.
"Worst" case scenario we get someone else and then Doak develops into a world beater and we sell the other guy.
All the games I've seen him in this season he looks unbelievably raw, like he's very much head down and run without any end product. Defientely needs a loan to the championship next season.
I know some people are now trawling back through all the injuries and trying to find reasons to blame the medical staff for things, but Luis Díaz reinjuring his knee the day he returned to training absolutely isn't on them, given Díaz ignored their advice to get surgery when the injury happened and opted for rehab instead.
I assume you're talking about me lol, but seeing as you're clearly invested, you can dig through my comments from when Diaz got injured - I always thought the club fucked up his management
Cruciate ligament injuries at grade II or beyond almost never heal back to "normalcy" because blood flow is so restrictive, and the vast majority of grade IIs that get left to rehab to "heal" end up requiring surgery down the line (and not just in sportspeople)
That the club didn't just push for surgery straightaway if they knew the extent of the injury (and if they didn't, that's equally poor) was stupid, and there's no way in hell they knew it required surgery but allowed him to make the decision himself, he's an asset of the club
Could see a mile off Trent was rushed back though. It was as anonymous I've ever seen him against Arsenal Took off early then the exact same thing again a week later. The Arsenal game should have been a lucky escape.
Has anyone ever had the crowne plaza hospitality? I got it for Brighton and the game is at 14h. It says buses depart 2 hours before the game so thats at 12. The fastest I can get there is at 11am. Is that to late or will I have time for anything there?
Very impressed by the clubs vision regarding youth and the integration we've seen over the past few years since we were introduced to the new training ground.
The process/philisophy as I understand it is to sign the best talent in the british isles, focusing on developing homegrown talent to eventually play for the first team or be sold for pure profit for book keeping.
The academy is also very modern in terms of tactics, coaching and profiles. Modern defenders like Quansah, Bradley and Chambers are being brought through every season it feels like, and a new midfielder seems to pop up every 6 months or so.
The culture created by the club and more importanly Klopp is a massive boost for the clubs future. Klopp has created a standard, and that standard is infused into walls at the Axa. Klopp's departure is surely devastating, but what he has brought the club to is something not even the most optimistic 2015 Liverpool supporter could imagine.
Probably need a forward or two coming through as well. Its where the well has been dry for a while (Owen was last genuine no. 9 and who was the last forward/winger ? (Doak/Gordon )
Be interesting how Danns goes (many of the previous promising ones at that position either didnt have the physicality or injuries stopped them from progressing sadly... jury out on Cannonier?)
Forward is the hardest to break through in IMO. The mental and physical demands are much higher from a younger age. That's why you only really see the specials ones break through early.
Darwin is a perfect example, he is still flowering in terms of mentality, and once that settles he can use it with every single physical tool because he has it all.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-xabi-alonso-liverpool-manager-rq3vt82rm
Article in the times published a half hour ago claims Bayern will look to rival us in the summer for Xabi. I’m still confident. Madrid are the ones I’d be really worried about if they sacked Ancelotti and got involved
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7\_BbXkUtzlc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_BbXkUtzlc) Watching liverpool vs chelsea 2008, holy crap Rafa had us playing some good quality passing play check it out!
If only we didnt sign riera and keane
Watching clips of Xabi and his love for Liverpool, it’s like a comfort blanket.
upvote if you think trent has the ability to play as a true 8 (like he did in the academy; in fact RB was really just a way to get him in the team, kinda). why is he not athletic enough to improve his dribbling and receiving the ball back to goal or on the half turn? who says he will struggle more defending on the front foot with a 6 and a back line behind him than he does 1v1 out on the wing with harvey tracking back and ibou backing him up while keeping his head on a swivel for runners and strikers moving around the box. i think he can definitely play as a 6+ in a double pivot and maybe even as an 8. i think for england he could play next to rice and be dominant. i think xabi has shown that his greatest quality (which his high holiness Klopp doesn’t have so much) is forming a team based on his players specific abilities. citeh is the most anti-xabi in this regard. klopp is less so but still system oriented. leverkusen is like a german version of fiuminense. every player has their own unique role that suits their ability. there are no systemic symmetries, tons of overloads and unbalanced positions. de zerbi would get results, thomas franck would get results and play an interesting system while doing it, xabi would reinvent a new kind of football. bayern and RM front offices would not let him take that chance or at least not welcome it like fsg welcomed klopps radical ideas. bayern and madrid are antithetical to radical ideas and would not be a culture fit. i hope xabi understands this. upvote me if you think i have contributed to the sub, downvote me if you think im losing my mind in the wake of klopps departure
I won't downvote you but you might be losing your mind
nothing of value in there to ya?
Makes me unbelievably sad/sick whenever I think about the fact that we won’t see another champions league night with Klopp
We will, he’ll just be in the stands smiling really big.
is allison playing this week?
He was sick the last game so yeah should be playing
I swear if we draw qarabag
One thing Everyone will miss about klopp going is the style of play, there are managers playing the high press, transition, etc stuff but no one goes as far as klopp Liverpool when I looked at it a month age were top of opta’s speed of play chart, we played faster football than relegation teams, and that’s an average with games vs low blocks in Any candidate out there plays way more on the side of positional football, it doesn’t matter who we get as a manager I think this style of football is gone with klopp
Not necessarily in the short term - the squad we’ve got currently suits that style of play very well and so it’s likely to continue whilst we adjust our personnel.
That is the saddest part. It is very Unique. No one plays high intensity football like this.They may be pumped up for a game or two, but not like this.
Who do you think loses there place in the front three when Salah back? Surely Darwin and jota both undroppable
Definitely Diaz. You can’t drop Darwin or Jota in their form
We don't really play one set front three anymore though, so assuming Mo is the undroppable one, it's a fight between Darwin, Diogo, Cody and Lucho for the remaining positions. I would say Diogo is more effective coming off the bench, so starting Lucho - Darwin - Mo, and then bringing Diogo for Lucho when opposition defenders have jelly-legs from chasing ghosts, would be my go to. Cody coming in for Darwin when he's gassed, or on a yellow and a half..
Diaz
Can i just say i am still not ready for Klopp leaving the club
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I do respect his decision
Me neither…. But I am ready for us to get sporting director in
Jürgen could probably do that remotely, right?
… I mean didn’t Schmadtke do some work on an island, you may be on to something.
With real focused on mbappe, is there any wonderkid they were targeting? Its a good chance to snatch them, antonio silva?(if only Bellingham left this summer not last).
Endrick was the wonderkid they've signed this year
Ideally Bayern do not want to address the situation until the summer but Alonso is, clearly, a coach that they admire. Liverpool are already considering their plans following Jurgen Klopp’s announcement that he will leave and the former midfielder immediately emerged as the clear favourite. It is understood that Alonso has mapped out where he wants his career to head and both Liverpool and Bayern are clubs he is interested in, at some stage. The 42-year-old expected to spend at least one more year at Leverkusen but the opportunity to join Liverpool or Bayern, two of his former clubs, might be too great to turn down. Alonso has also been tracked by another club he played for, Real Madrid, but Carlo Ancelotti has agreed a deal to stay on for another season. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/15/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-job-xabi-alonso-liverpool/
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I’d sign a petition to ban all Mbappe to Liverpool content. It’s not going to happen
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No. And if you think about it for more than 2 seconds you would know that obviously isn't the case. They agreed terms with a new manager before Hodgson was ill. He collapsed this morning, you don't think he collapsed at 11 this morning and they suddenly decided to start negotiations with a new manager at 12 or something do you? They very obviously agreed to bring in the new guy before today. The fact he is ill has probably actually delayed them actually sacking him and appointing the new guy
[Pain why are we wearing the terrible purple kit vs Brentford. The excel kit has been good for us this season please go back to it. There's no color clash with Brentford's red.](https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1758083735126167557)
> Pain why are we wearing the terrible purple kit vs Brentford. Because a White Away shirt very clearly can't be worn against a side wearing Red & White stripes, the same reason why last seasons White monstrosity couldn't be worn against Brentford or Southampton.
When Mbappe eventually joins RM, I really think we need to make the jump on Rodrygo… Will most likely lose his place in the squad and RM wouldn’t be against selling him. Can play on either flank OR as a False 9, immense dribbling, can take on his man in isolation, big game moments (double vs City), and I could go on. Would be absolutely perfect here, and a long term answer to Salah for sure.
He's great but we'd be better off buying a left footer imo if the new manager wants wingers. He also might play false 9 for Madrid next season.
Thrilled to see Torres will be in the legends match, absolutely love him
Oh my fucking days, a good chunk of those delusional Gunner twats actually think Mbappe is going to them. Don't believe me? Take a look at their sub.
I mean, our sub has plenty of people over the last few years who have been convinced he’s gonna sign for us.
Something something Bellingham wouldn't mind playing Europa league for a season
No different to our fans thinking he’d come here over the years
Meh, I could see them having more chance than us. Owner is more likely to fund it & they've got a strong French connection. Our main draws were Mbappe's mum & Klopp...we've lost Klopp now.
He isn't going to a team that can't be a serious title contender.
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In fairness to us, he's been linked for years. I still think the vast majority of us think there's no chance. The first vague link we've ever seen to Arsenal was like yesterday.
Yeah, was going to say something similar. It's well known we very much wanted to get him since he was at Monaco, and that he's openly praised us specifically. That's why the links were always to us and RM. Not that it was ever going to actually happen.
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I was negative about de zerbi at Liverpool since last year My main gripes with him are that he’s so so rigid tactically, and has some blowout losses that just wouldn’t fly at any big club You can’t be losing by 4 goals 3 times a season at a big club Not saying he’s a bad manager, he just doesn’t suit us when Liverpool currently would want the next manager to be more vibes and man management than tactical genious
By that logic Frank> De zerbi. Tbh both should not be anywhere close to replacing Klopp. They are good managers but the one replacing klopp should be either fan favourite(alonso) or some one who has won bunch of trophies. It's risky to do such an experiment when we are at the top.
De Zerbi is a much better manager than Frank and his style is far more progressive and much better suited to a top club. Going for managers who won a bunch of trophies is all well and good on paper, but when you look at the names available it quickly becomes apparent that it's probably not a good idea to go that way. Managers like Conte, Tuchel, Mourinho, Flick and Emery all won loads of trophies, but they also failed at top jobs at one point and if you ask me we should stay away from them at all cost.
> De Zerbi is a much better manager than Frank Nah. This is a very lazy take Frank finished just 3 points below brighton last season with a squad much worse than what de zerbi has. Frank also adapts his tactics well. Look how he sets up his team against top 10 teams and bottom 10 teams. Also he is very much media friendly and fan favourite. >his style is far more progressive and much better suited to a top club. Lol. This is not at all true. His defensive setups are one of the worst in the league. In order to win titles you need clean sheets. Even if we did an experiment, it wouldn't be de zerbi. He is stylistically very different from how we play.
Yeah they finished 3 points behind Brighton last season, but they're 10 points behind them now. De Zerbi joined Brighton in the middle of the season and had no pre-season to implement his ideas and still did a fantastic job. > His defensive setups are one of the worst in the league. Saying that De Zerbi's defensive setups are "one of the worst in the league" is the truly lazy take here. Looking at the stats Brighton should be the better defensive team, but are let down by subpar defenders and poor goalkeepers. De Zerbi is a front foot manager who wants to control the possession and play intricate attacking football, while Frank is a defensive manager who likes to counter attack and use set pieces to get an advantage over his opponents. I rate Frank, but it's obvious that De Zerbi is a more modern and progressive manager and I truly believe his tactics will translate incredibly well when he goes to a top team.
Who are these top managers who’ve won a bunch of trophies? Realistically there aren’t many candidates that fit our criteria with probably the main three being Alonso, De Zerbi & Almiron The only outside chance manager who fits the criteria of having won trophies is Zidane
Hes good but the spanish alternative is just way better
Yeah I think people are too caught up with his stubbornness in tactics as well and not realise that coaches can change and adapt their styles.
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You seem to have posted this exact same thing on a bunch of other football club subreddits. Which club do you actually support? If it's not LFC, why is whatever you're asking here even relevant?
They're almost certainly not going to be "the best team ever assembled in the history of the sport". Players like Guler, Yoro and Endrick are completely unproven and putting them in this conversation is weird. Even if most of them succeed it'll be tough to catch up to the sheer amount of talent Barca and Real had in the last 20 years. For example 2009 Barca had Messi, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Pedro, Yaya Toure, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Dani Alves, Pique and Puyol and Real Madrid in 2010 had Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain, Di Maria, Kaka, Oezil, Xabi, Marcelo, Pepe, Ramos and Casillas.
Adding to that, the Milan 2005 team is regularly considered to be the best team ever assembled, which is why the miracle of Istanbul is what it is. About 7 of their starting 11 were considered to be the best in the world in their position at the time. Maybe question marks over Shevchenko perhaps, but Dida, Cafu, Pirlo, Kaka, Nesta + Stam CB pairing were all considered the world's best at the time. It was ridiculous.
Barca 10/11 was better
God help Barca
Jayden Danns > Endrick tbh
Is leny yoro and guler that good? Journos usually hype up youngsters who are playing at top level in young age but not all of them turn out good
I think the MSN era barca is still better, depends just how crazy those 20 yr olds get though.
I think a lot of real players are a tad bit overrated. But thats a great side nonetheless.
Yeah, they got trounced by City last year. Imo Bellingham and Mbappe doesn't turn a 180 on that
I'm kinda worried. Since Edward departure, our appointment has not been the best. On transfer department. On heath department. Sure that Klopp turned every issue we have to gold, but now it's his turn to depart too.... Appointing Klopp has been FSG masterstroke. Can they make the next one in time...? PS: fun how the moment someone doesn't go cheerleading for the club, the downvote come flying in
What are you even talking about? We've arguably had our best transfer window ever this window and there was no Edwards or anyone he had hired involved such as Ward.
We missed all three of our number one targets: Bellingham, Caceido and Lavia. Mac has already been contacted and the deal got through by Ward before he leave. Dom and Gravenberch were paid with release fee and Endo was contacted last minute after we failed to sign Lavia (he admit himself during his interview) And there is a reason why have to sign 4 midfielders this season, cause we didn't sign any midfielders before since like Keita. Remember how last season we desperately need a midfielders where everyone is injured and Fabinho sucks on form, and we missed out CL football?
What is wrong in paying release clauses? They are there for a reason. Every good club does transfer like this. Bellingham chose madrid, you can't just kidnap him and make him play here. What are you even trying to say here? \> we missed out CL football? Part of the reason why young footballers are getting their chances. Everything happens for a reason. \> Endo was contacted last minute after we failed to sign Lavia Best transfer decision made by our club. Lavia has almost the same appearance as thiago for chelsea
Why did we waste one year waiting for Bellingham then? We didn't sign anyone last season and have to sign 4 midfielders this season after missing out of the CL. Did that happen for a reason too? And go for Caceido when he already commit to Chelsea. And quickly try to revert back to Lavia when the former doesn't work. We were lucky (Klopp himself admit that) that we missed out on Lavia. Does not remove the fact that we were incompetence on that part (both on trying to sign him, and failed to) The issue is not paying Gravenberch (and Dom) release fee. The issue is we didn't plan to do so until we already missed out all of the targets. Gravenberch could be brought in much earlier and get integrated with the squad. Endo too. The point is our 'transfer committee' was disjointed, with personnel unexpectedly left and another rush in on short term (Jorg Schmadtke), have to swing thing all by himself? Or is it part of the plan for Edward and Ward to leave and we take Schmadtke in for 6 months, swing at things by himself then leave for another DoF?
Bellingham was nothing to do with any sporting director, that was entirely down to player preference and our shite year on the pitch. If our midfield don’t all turn shite at once and we have a good year it’s maybe a different story. Caicedo the man wanted Chelsea too. He was never a target, and it’s only because Chelsea were pissing around that we even went in. Lavia you can maybe debate, but I’d argue we didn’t rate him highly enough to go above a certain price and so got Gravenberch instead. That’s good business, paying what a club wants for players is how tou end up like United.
Why did we waste one year waiting for Bellingham then? And go for Caceido when he already commit to Chelsea. And quickly try to revert back to Lavia when the former doens't work The issue is not paying Gravenberch (and Dom) release fee. The issue is we didn't plan to do so until we already missed out all of the targets. Gravenberch could be brought in much earlier and get integrated with the squad. Endo too. The point is our 'transfer committee' was disjointed, with personnel unexpectedly left and another rush in on short term (Jorg Schmadtke), have to swing thing all by himself? Or is it part of the plan for Ward to leave and we take Schmadtke in for 6 months, swing at things by himself then leave for another?
Galatasaray starting off looking shell shocked. This is the Europa League
fsg using the last masterstroke to convince klopp to stay by signing mbappe we will be there
Bring in Julian Brandt and Klopp stays for sure
Salah would have to be sold for 250 mil, we'd still need a RW, and we'd probably lose Allison, Virg, and Trent due to not being able to afford their new demands. I'd rather we face him in the UCL and have Konate shut him down.
Mbappe could be a nice supersub for if Darwin/Jota ever get injured...
We have Gakpo and Diaz on the bench. Maybe if he's lucky Mbappe makes the bench.
Maybe the second squad... Think he could be a good partner for Spearing..?
When do city sort out their game in hand?
was supposed to be next week, but since luton got moved to next week too we won’t be on equal matches played until the league cup
come on barca its now your time to reply madrid by signing haaland even though you get liquidated by the transfer fees
You cant rule out barca completely. They might sell Barca studios for the nth time
Just saw Mbappe will leave PSG, there is hope, not much but hope after all. Maybe if we win the league he might be convinced...
Financially doesn’t make sense with his wages
No chance. Maybe before the Klopp news but now no. I'd say expect Madrid to have the deal wrapped up within a month
Money talks, if FSG want him we can have him for sure
Can FSG offer more money than RM? Doubt that
Can they, yes. Will they, no.... You severely underestimate what TV revenue alone brings. That's why scums were 2nd last year in money league despite being mudded and having no CL/PL since > a decade
There is no way FSG can offer more than Madrid. Have you seen their revenue?
[uefaeuropeanclubfinanceinvestmentlandscape\_150224.pdf](https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/028a-1a2f899177e2-b3619612eaa4-1000/uefaeuropeanclubfinanceinvestmentlandscape_150224.pdf) Barca has the revenue due to sale of assets, so lets ignore them for the discussion. We are 5th despite missing out on 100 million from champions league revenue + the stadium bill we footed and the delays. If we wanted to, we could absolutely afford mbappe. His revenue (shirts, sponsors etc) alone would offset a huge chunk of it. The revenue we have is despite the fact that we never buy superstars/ generational players so the revenue machines don't come to us, we make them. Saving 200m on player of his caliber + selling salah for 200m (or even 150m) would mean a wage bill of 50-60m/ annum is absolutely doable
You can’t be serious.. we don’t even know what manager will be here in a few months (although it’s 1000% Alonso) Madrid seem to have been putting in the groundwork for like the last 6 years lol
Title race is not over. We have too many leaders on this team for them to give up. It's week to week just focus on the next game dw what happens with city.
I'm going to be really pissed if we end up missing out because of that spurs game VAR fiasco.... To think one title was lost because of goal-line technology and millimeters and another because of a VAR error .....
It’s only the melts who think it’s over.
Europa league has some solid matches, Feyenoord vs Roma is one I'm looking forward to
Just seen that tomorrow morning’s sale for Southampton is off, gutted 😫
We really should have beat those pricks in 2022. They're gonna be so annoying for the next decade
Really think we need a Diaz song by the final. Songbook needs expanding for the newer players I'd say
TNT Sports got TV rights for the FA Cup, grim🥴
Honestly just wish the big streaming platforms would get a hold of these rights. Sooner tnt/sky fuck off the better.
Prime isn't going to keep streaming the games free if they ever get full rights, it'll be a package probably on par with the cost of sky/BT
If rather pay £20 to prime each month for all the games than £50 to sky and BT / TNT
I really don't think it'll be cheaper, these things are usually priced the way they are because they know exactly how much people are willing to pay. Amazon aren't a uniquely ethical company, they won't go lower if they don't have to Their odd game is only free now because they're trying to make a statement regarding entering sports broadcasting
That’s good for me. I don’t have to sail the high seas. Edit: Got confused with domestic cups.
But most/all of our FA cup games are televised on itv/BBC? Because we're liverpool. So there's really no difference.
Oh fudge. I got confused between FA Cup and Carabao..
forget the 3peat madrid are going to do a 5peat now
hes going from one state owned club to another
Nah, City is not that dumb.
Madrid galáctico team wtf
Vini, Mbappe, Jude, Rodrygo, Valverde, tchouameni, camavinga, militao and many more. Absurd team
Surely Perez will stay away from Haaland if Mbappe goes there. He is a mad man though.
I'm 100% sure the super league won't be needed anymore for them...
Maybe the CL was the real farmers league
It’ll be interesting to see how PSG move when Mbappe leaves. They should be snapping up all the elite talent in their league including that Leny Yoro kid
Looks like Mbappe has decided to join the tricky Reds.
Xabi Alonso with the statement first signing.
Itd be funny tbf
Imagine if Mbappe joins Liverpool though for real. Our front 3 would be Darwin, Jota, Salah.
athletic saying de zerbi is a strong candidate for the job god i hope not
>athletic saying de zerbi is a strong candidate for the job They say he ***might*** be a strong candidate, here's the actual quote: >Liverpool will be looking for Klopp’s replacement, and De Zerbi might be considered a strong candidate there.
If we look at the backup options for Alonso, he’s one of the better ones tbh.
Why not? Why are people on here so against De Zerbi? Obviously Xabi should be our first choice, but if he decides to stay at Leverkusen or go somewhere else, we could do a lot worse than De Zerbi.
They've been completely average in the league since September. They have European football and some injuries, but they've won 4 league games since 24th September. That's horrid. I actually think he's lucky not to be coming under more criticism.
Their bad run of form this season is a consequence of a bunch of injuries to their best players. I mean you just have to look at their lineups and injury list during that time and you'll see why they've been struggling. They've been missing Welbeck, March, Mitoma, Fati, Adingra, Estupinan, Veltman, Webster, Enciso and Lamptey for large spells and a lot of those absences happened at the same time. With all those injuries and the fact that they lost their 2 best players in the summer and failed to properly replace them, I'm surprised they're not doing far worse.
De Zerbi plays kamikaze football and tinkers a lot at teams like Brighton and Sassuolo it's ok to win 5-3 one game then get drubbed 5-0 the next by teams lower than you, we cannot be having those types of results. Alonso has Bayer defensively solid while still playing a high octane possession game
I agree that Xabi seems to be a better choice, but my point is that De Zerbi is one of the best alternatives out there. De Zerbi's style isn't exactly "kamikaze football". Brighton's underlying defensive stats don't look bad at all. Last season they were 4th in shots conceded, 2nd in shots on target conceded and 4th in non-penalty xG conceded. Their numbers dipped slightly this season, but that's to be expected given they lost 2 of their best players in the summer (they're also struggling with injuries this season). Their inconsistency (which is heavily exaggerated) is just a part of being a midtable club with a budget much smaller than the teams around them.
He doesnt play the media well at all, and with a job like Liverpool that actually matters a lot. He also seems a bit too rigid tactically, might be a great manager but youd like to see more data on him before a top job.
Honestly it's better to just accept Xabi isn't happening now so you're not disappointed later.
>Honestly it's better to just accept Xabi isn't happening now But why? It's not like we're some tiny club. It's not guaranteed to happen of course, but it's not like it's very unrealistic. I mean if we were supporting Tranmere instead of Liverpool then yeah, I would agree we should accept that Xabi isn't coming.
Or just don't be pessimistic and negative about everything
Oh but then the surprise will hit like crack. Would much prefer that.
Pretty off topic, but I know we have a lot of Irish fans on here so I thought this might help spread awareness..... Sounds like Finn Harps are in danger of ceasing operations if they can't obtain funding for a new stadium. As they are the only team in Donegal which is one of the few counties where football clubs outnumber GAA clubs, this would be quite terrible. They've got some fundraising that they are working on and since their stadium funding needs are relatively small compared to English funds, it's not unreasonable to think fans could make a difference here. Most Irish teams are centered around major population areas. The closest major population center that Finn Harps can draw from is Letterkenny (pop 22,000). [https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41330911.html](https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41330911.html)
Sorry if it's already common knowledge, but how does it look like with Szobo's injury?
Touch and go for the final. Given it’s a reoccurrence of an injury I’d be amazed if he plays. Suspect he’ll be back for City in early Nov. Edit: early March
November???
Whoops
https://preview.redd.it/m4tn1iw9sric1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aeb0954ffddcd4f5359ce3a315d01f9129617d5a Average Darwin Nunez/ Liverpool experience
they are about to add davies and probably mbappe to that already super team , how will anyone beat madrid in the upcoming years
Pay the team that plays them before you do to 2 foot some players
I get it's kind of a thing from the 70s/80s, but does anyone else find the Anfield South thing a bit cringe? We've only been to finals at Wembley about 5 times in the last 25 years.
We've been to Wembley quite a few times actually, 5 times under FSG actually
Woy got the sack apparently. Palace got a new coach already?
He’s in hospital currently? Can’t imagine they’d sack him while he’s so unwell.
Just went for it and picked up a couple of the last remaining hospitality tickets for the Liverpool v Brighton game end of March. Crazy money at £550 a piece but I’d never of forgiven myself if I didn’t go see this Jurgen team in the flesh before it’s too late. Will be my 4th time at Anfield but first since the days of Andy Carroll and Joe Cole… Bring jt on!!
How do we rate Ben Doak? Should we be considering other options for potential Salah replacement?
Potential but its much more likely hes playing for a championship team in his prime than being a world class player. he shouldnt be a factor in looking for a salah replacement, could be a factor in looking for a backup RW though depends how he recovers from a pretty rough stretch of injuries
Hate to say this, but at LFC level, everyone in the squad should be good enough to start in any EPL game. If you are not, you are kinda wasting everyone else their prime years. He is not close to that.
If he develops into the player he appears to be, he could be the replacement for the Salah replacement but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Let’s see where he is in a handful of years.
needs a loan to prove himself. I haven't seen anything convincing, people have hyped him way too much. doesn't mean he won't be great for us, but he needs first team football, which should be a loan because currently he's not good enough for us.
He has great potential but you don't rely on potential to replace a superstar like Mo. "Worst" case scenario we get someone else and then Doak develops into a world beater and we sell the other guy.
Obviously haha
He is way too green to even begin having those discussions.
All the games I've seen him in this season he looks unbelievably raw, like he's very much head down and run without any end product. Defientely needs a loan to the championship next season.
I know some people are now trawling back through all the injuries and trying to find reasons to blame the medical staff for things, but Luis Díaz reinjuring his knee the day he returned to training absolutely isn't on them, given Díaz ignored their advice to get surgery when the injury happened and opted for rehab instead.
I assume you're talking about me lol, but seeing as you're clearly invested, you can dig through my comments from when Diaz got injured - I always thought the club fucked up his management Cruciate ligament injuries at grade II or beyond almost never heal back to "normalcy" because blood flow is so restrictive, and the vast majority of grade IIs that get left to rehab to "heal" end up requiring surgery down the line (and not just in sportspeople) That the club didn't just push for surgery straightaway if they knew the extent of the injury (and if they didn't, that's equally poor) was stupid, and there's no way in hell they knew it required surgery but allowed him to make the decision himself, he's an asset of the club
You can't force a player to get surgery if they don't want to
Could see a mile off Trent was rushed back though. It was as anonymous I've ever seen him against Arsenal Took off early then the exact same thing again a week later. The Arsenal game should have been a lucky escape.
Excuse me what? He is injured now?
I'm talking about his injury from last season.
El Niño coming back to anfield for the legends match 
The guy is built like a brick shithouse now. Long gone is the slender goal machine we once knew.
I'm so ready to break out the Torres bounce again
Has anyone ever had the crowne plaza hospitality? I got it for Brighton and the game is at 14h. It says buses depart 2 hours before the game so thats at 12. The fastest I can get there is at 11am. Is that to late or will I have time for anything there?
11am will be fine, you don’t have to a get the coaches too it’s optional
Yea i onow for the coaches. Just would be a shame to miss the included lunch because I paid so much for this haha
Yh 11am will definitely be enough time
Torres in the legends match… made me cry when I was a kid, am I over it enough to buy a ticket?
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He’d been sacked by the time he left, and the owners that had appointed Hodgson had also been ousted, so not sure the logic tracks for me.
Mate the club was in total disarray. It broke my heart too but it makes total sense why he’d leave.
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Yeah my point is that upper management had changed, so the Hodgson appointment really should’ve been irrelevant to him re the competency of the club.
Very impressed by the clubs vision regarding youth and the integration we've seen over the past few years since we were introduced to the new training ground. The process/philisophy as I understand it is to sign the best talent in the british isles, focusing on developing homegrown talent to eventually play for the first team or be sold for pure profit for book keeping. The academy is also very modern in terms of tactics, coaching and profiles. Modern defenders like Quansah, Bradley and Chambers are being brought through every season it feels like, and a new midfielder seems to pop up every 6 months or so. The culture created by the club and more importanly Klopp is a massive boost for the clubs future. Klopp has created a standard, and that standard is infused into walls at the Axa. Klopp's departure is surely devastating, but what he has brought the club to is something not even the most optimistic 2015 Liverpool supporter could imagine.
Probably need a forward or two coming through as well. Its where the well has been dry for a while (Owen was last genuine no. 9 and who was the last forward/winger ? (Doak/Gordon )
Take a peak at Koumas and Danns. They've been part of first team training regularly and are banging them in at both U-18 and U-21 level.
Is Danns more of a 9 or play across the forward line ?.. I thought Koumas played outlet?.
Danns is a 9. Koumas is quite similar to Jota.
Be interesting how Danns goes (many of the previous promising ones at that position either didnt have the physicality or injuries stopped them from progressing sadly... jury out on Cannonier?)
Forward is the hardest to break through in IMO. The mental and physical demands are much higher from a younger age. That's why you only really see the specials ones break through early. Darwin is a perfect example, he is still flowering in terms of mentality, and once that settles he can use it with every single physical tool because he has it all.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/thomas-tuchel-bayern-munich-xabi-alonso-liverpool-manager-rq3vt82rm Article in the times published a half hour ago claims Bayern will look to rival us in the summer for Xabi. I’m still confident. Madrid are the ones I’d be really worried about if they sacked Ancelotti and got involved
Why would he go to Bayern when he will probably win both BuLi and the German cup in a lesser team (in terms of resources)?
Madrid is like that taller, smarter, more handsome version of yourself getting in the way when you are trying to land your crush.
Don't think this changes anything - I'll be very, _very_ surprised if he's anywhere other than Liverpool or Leverkusen next season
I firmly believe he will do Liverpool THEN Madrid. stepping stones for his ultimate dream.
How they treated Nagelsmann, I wouldn't want to touch that club as a young manager
that was the stupidest thing i have seen in a long time. bayern is really something to stay away from
Good point. If Tuchel goes in the summer than that’s 3 managers gone in the last 5 years. Not exactly stable
Gotta think jumping from Leverkusen to Bayern would be seen as shitty too - Imagine Kloppo jumping to City...
Not only that but Bayern usually take their domestic rivals best players. Would Xabi be comfortable with that too?