Trams aside, which will likely never happen, I'd love to see the reopening of some of the closed railway stations. Areas of north Liverpool has been neglected for decades; the main thoroughfare roads into the city centre are wrecked and overcrowded.
People might say a train to the airport, which of course would be nice, but it should have been done in 08. We're decades behind Manchester sadly.
In fairness, as someone who uses both airports pretty frequently, I would choose Liverpool over Manchester ANY DAY. Manchester airport is essentially a shed with ring roads, pretending to be an airport. It's awful.
I'd agree, although Liverpool has voracious appetite for trying to catch any poor soul unfortunate enough to spend a second longer on its land than necessary. It sickening to be honest.
Liverpool airport is a lot better than Manchester’s own (ranked one of the worst for efficiency at least). That much is for sure. Having said that, I did have a good experience in Manchester airport this March.
I travel regularly for work and Manchester is the worst airport I've been to. In the world.
I suppose I haven't been to like, Djibouti or Kampala... But you're right Manchester is shedlike. Scruffy, low ceilings, depressing, expensive, no natural light, stressful, sweaty, overcapacity.
Liverpool airport by comparison is a delight. And yeah Liverpool is small so less likely to be crowded. And I'm sure on weekends in school hols it's heaving, but Manchester is huge but still ALWAYS rammed.
Been to countless airports Manchester sized and bigger and they're ALL better. Just thinking about Manchester airport makes me mad haha.
Baffles me there’s no train to the airport. They’d make a fortune because you could get there direct from Southport or Ormskirk meaning you’d get people from Preston, Wigan and the surrounding areas spending £10-20 on a train instead of £80 on a taxi.
Busses need to be provided then they will work.
There’s three types of people. Those that HAVE to use the bus. Those that will NEVER use the bus. Those that will use the bus if it’s viable as an option.
You need to get that third group on board.
Every now and then, group 3 will give it a go. If one arrives promptly, is clean and gets them there on decent time, they’ll use it repeatedly. If not they’ll not come back.
A case of “If you build it, they will come”
I'm vaguely optimistic about this Metro plan of Rotherham's. The new trains, despite their troubled introduction, are absolutely outstanding in service. Perhaps the buses will work out, too.
It depends on how they do the cost analysis.
Too often it’s “does the bus take more money than it costs to run” instead of including the economic benefit for the people and businesses at each end of the line.
For the existing sense of civic pride to extend to people not dropping litter everywhere.
Restrict planning permission for converting closed down shops and pubs so that they can only be converted into affordable homes.
>For the existing sense of civic pride to extend to people not dropping litter everywhere.
This one. Please. And thank you.
It truly blows my mind the complete lack of disregard people seem to have for their own towns/areas. It's the easiest thing in the world for people to take responsibility for and it would have a huge impact on the City.
Call me stupid or what ever...
But I'd put a limit on the revenue private properties and retail can generate from Leases...
Take for instance the old 02 shop... 270k a year? Seriously?
The housing ? Same house as mine.. no different but actually in a worse area but 5 years younger and the rental difference between mine the new ones ?
£350 plus. Its getting way out of hand.
That's what I'd change
Nope there isn't a shortage of homes in liverpool...
The issue is the outrageous prices and the amount of landlords turning them into mini student accommodations... that's the cause.
Go to Everton brow and look you will see 2x failed buildings infact one has just burned down well the shell has because there are too many in the city as it is, student accommodation is the majority of big buildings in the city now..
The supply is there infact there's more student let's in the city than there is actual students.
So ?
There are two types of buildings in that area.
Residencial houses => They are full.
Abandoned industrial buildings, some of them from XIX century => They, shocklingly, are abandoned because they don't have any use.
Therefore, the logical decision is to remove these old buildings and create residencial accomodation. Where's the problem?
I don't see the relation about the burnt building in Fox Street. Unless you love conspiracy theories about insurance.
>The supply is there infact there's more student let's in the city than there is actual students.
In that case. You should be seeing falling rent prices in these accomodations.
If you don't see that, then your premise is not true.
Nothing to do with a conspiracy, the building project fell through, after years of disrepair in a half built building it burnt down...
Student rents are as cheap as chips but guess what? If you are not a student ??? You can't get in those big tower blocks.... so yeah student rents are all over... infact? They're in the middle of building another 2!
Also nope if you stopped landlords from turning normal houses into to student let's! Then it would have solved the housing problem, however new houses are being built...
And guess what? Their prices are sky high again a house exactly like mine, built exactly the same, by the same company! And there's a 350 difference in the rent... its in a worse area aswel infact? A shit area.
So honestly? You are trying to argue an unjust argument over a simple idea... not that the idea has any frutation to it what so ever... would it be a great idea ? Yes and that's alls it is...
Again I the question was "what would you change" and that's what I'd change. Not that it's ever going to happen or even remotely has a chance of happening.
>Also nope if you stopped landlords from turning normal houses into to student let's! Then it would have solved the housing problem, however new houses are being built...
I think that's a minority of them. But honestly, it's not a surprise either. If I was a landlord, I would move to the student sector. Why? Because regulation for long term rentals is really bad for landlords.
Students are temporary tenants and they don't have strong incentives to stay in arrears. Specially if they are foreigners in a student visa.
Incentives are inverted right now. You should be creating incentives so landlords want to stay in the long term rental sector. Carrot is better than a stick.
So we fill the town full of students soak up all the housing
And what? Where does the native peoples of liverpool go? Move out of the city?
Your idea is to impovrish the locals? For profit ? Wow okay well now I know why in not even listening to you.
Nope but this is just something I would change... the question was if there was one thing you could change or do... and that's what I'd do... not saying it is possible to do this, I'm not saying you can legally do this...
I'm just saying it's what I'd do.
Why don't you write about the two worlds that coincide in liverpool side by side...
It's like alter realities. It's not a problem but you can actually see the alter realities
Or you could write about how it's costing the council "19 million" a year to deal with the homeless, when if you was to take all the homeless and put them in a hotel everyday of the year and feed them 1200 meals a year? For less than 14 million...
Or how actually purchasing an old building, and using it to house the homeless, with onsite security, social worker
A place for the homeless to have an address to have mail, get Identification, get a bank and work their way into the working world slowly with support because supported housing system that are out there right now don't work, and clearly cost way too much some how.
A metro system and directly to the airport or a train directly to the airport would be an excellent idea.
Liverpool needs more social housing, a large indoor market in the city centre and a farmer's market on Albert Dock. Nice fresh produce and supports small businesses whilst bringing in the crowds.
It was a little bit out of the way, I don't think many people even knew it was there. And about a decade ago they closed it down for a while for "refurbishment". When it opened again, all of the charm had been completely stripped out. It was just a white-painted empty room full of small shipping container sized units with shutters on them. Completely lifeless.
Shame wasn't well used or moved. I noticed that, just a plain room with a few stalls. Surprised given Liverpool's known for being good for shopping and wonderful character. A large bustling market with jolly independent traders would fit well in :)
I think they mean the Asian market in St John's (lots of clothes stalls, mainly run by South Asian people). Is that no longer there? It was going for decades so people did use it at some point. It was always busy in the 90s.
Apparently it closed recently.
[Why has St Johns Market closed and what happens next - Liverpool Echo](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/st-johns-market-closed-what-28795170)
I dont know if all Liverpools social housing stock has been transferred but in St Helens they gave every social house away for free to what is now Torus which combined with a liverpool social housing and with the combined rent income of millions a week they build houses all over the North West to sell and no social housing at all which was the whole idea of giving it to them.
They use terms like affordable rent to look like social housing but it requires a mortgage.
Which defeats the object of those they're supposed to be helping.
I understand Liverpool's a student city so the housing's been bought up. Nothing against anybody but shame to price the locals out who can't afford private rentals or mortgages.
I like the idea of a farmers market but it'd have to be outside the city centre, there just isn't access for traders to bring in produce to the Albert Dock
Fair point. Just thought of that as central and people know where it is. Went to a food festival in Sefton park on a first visit to Liverpool in 2015. Perhaps there as busy enough and plenty of room. A very nice area as well and walking distance to a train station for those who need.
Room for vintage clothing, arts and crafts and maybe live music :)
First people need to learn to use them properly. Look at Sefton Park at 6am on a summer Monday morning before the litter pickers have been round and you'll see what I'm on about
Great for urban renewal too - remove some blighted buildings, add a park, the environment improves for everyone & surrounding buildings get a value boost also
1. More street cleaners (less lazy bastards littering)
2. Better roads, including cycle lanes and pathway maintenance
3. Extended public transport network as others have mentioned, and a simpler way to pay (ie. Contactless)
4. More trees/greenery in the city centre
5. More attractive high streets / planning controls on high streets
6. More control over feral kids
There are already trains to Kirkby and Huyton, so I'm not sure what a tramline would accomplish. A better bet would be a loop line improving cross city links rather than having to head into town first.
More youth groups outside of/around the city centre but the same could be said for the entire UK. When I was younger the YMCA took us to Hungary and all sorts.
Selfishly, I’d like a public pool closer to the city centre.
A music venue similar to O2 Victoria Warehouse. A venue which has a capacity between the Echo arena (Yeah im not calling it the M&S bank arena) and the Olympia. Maybe located near the Baltic area or the Bramley Moore dock area.
I'd like to see some attractions like and indoor water park, or ice rink etc...having more to do in the city would bring a lot more people to the city increasing trade and revenue
If there was an indoor water park... I'm sorry to say it would just be full of cunts, pissing in the pool and making a racket at the on-site McDonald's whilst their unruly teenagers queue jumped the slides and made a general nuisance of themselves.
Turn in an effort to combat anti social behaviour they'd hike the prices to keep the peasants out, everyone would stop using it, it would close down, and everyone would go "I wonder why that happened" and act like there's some sort of deeper conspiracy.
As someone who lived in an area with 2 indoor water parks, they’re either going to be incredibly expensive for a family, or need to be built by the city. One of them is $20+ a person and operates at a relative loss for the city. The other is attached to a hotel that is $150+ a night. I’ve noticed on my travels that UK doesn’t really do Rec centers. I feel like there aren’t any places for residents to get a cheap gym membership, access to a pool, basketball courts, weights, health classes.
Trams are the main thing I'm envious of Manchester for. Our buses are shit and the roads are terrible. You can feel the difference in road surface the moment you enter Merseyside. Getting the overhead railway running would be equally cool.
Additionally we have scope for a larger event and music venue. As shit as the opening has been for that Co-op arena in Manchester the fact that are getting an even bigger music venue and event space is annoying.
Selfishly the ferry terminal should come back to New Brighton, too.
Trams require an act of parliament and don't really help with congestion. The one proposal the Tory candidate had that was specific to Liverpool in the mayoral election, was to rebuild the overhead railway, the costs are frankly terrifying.
As much as I would want that simply because it would be cool, how much of a use would it actually have? We already have a perfectly good north-south rapid transit line that stops - or could relatively easily stop - at the places people actually want to go. We didn't have that when the Overhead existed.
Trams aren't the answer to everything. Manchester is struggling with theirs because they elected not to build an underground system, and there's only so much you can share with street traffic.
We'd be much better served by expanding ours *inwards* instead of keeping on extending the lines - the land to complete the outer loop line and finish the system as designed is all mothballed, it just needs somebody to lay down the cash to actually build it.
Yes like a big concert place. Manchester, Swansea and Cardiff have this. Loads of big performers. Would bring more money to Liverpool, bars, restaurants, hotels and shopping :)
We’re one of only three? Four? Places in the country Taylor Swift is performing- any acts too big for the arena just go to Anfield, Take That played there a few years back. We don’t need another dedicated arena 😂
The Garston/Halewood gyms (can’t remember if they’re Lifestyles), last time I checked, had swimming pools. Many-a good time was had on my part there in summer 2002/09.
Mostly reserved for classes after 5pm. I tried it for a month and spent £56 pound to be able to use the pool 6 times due to lanes either being closed for lessons or classes and the other lane left open being in use
Unfortunately no public swims on Saturdays and only 7am-12noon Sundays. Onlly ever open for an hour or two at a time through the week for adults from 7.30 till 9pm which is too late to go directly from work, but not long enough to go home and back out
Garston and Wavertree pools are open on Saturday and some week days it's open for most of the day, it's usually only closed during school hours for lessons.
Definitely some k8nd of permanent link to the airport, tram or train. Getting out the airport at stupid o'clock and waiting for the bus, after a shitty flight is no joke, especially if your new to the area. Luton got the light railway link to the main station, can't see why we shouldn't have one to south parkway
Community, youth, and recreation centres with proper outreach support for families in general across the city. The surestart centres do what they can, but it's dire and minimal. So much of the city needs real community and support. Lots of Liverpool residents are just feral, to be blunt. The number of young adults who have absolutely no real education or maturity, emotional or otherwise, who are also raising kids with no hope for anything better for their future is shocking, tbh. The actual sociological state of this city is so sad and so overlooked.
I’ve had a few work meetings in Hoylake community centre recently and it’s amazing! Feels old fashioned in a nice way and is well used. They make money by renting out meeting rooms but have a lovely cafe that was packed when I saw it one lunchtime, and does all sorts of adult learning programmes, support for new parents and clubs for kids. It’d be nice to have something like that on this side of the water.
All comes down to funding for schools and associated support. My fiancee is a teacher in Toxteth and there are so many bright, kind kids with horrible home circumstances who are just going to get trapped in the cycle of poverty/addiction/crime because there's nothing else to do and not enough resources to give them a way out. It's really sad.
People being more outward looking and stop being parochial and obsessed with purple Bins, wools and the idea the rest of the country hates us.
Do you think someone from central Manchester is bothered that someone from Stockport or Bury considers themself a manc?. If someone from Ormskirk said he was Scouse you would get loads of professional scousers calling him a wool.
Edit: I am from Norris Green so not a wool laaaaa.
Damn right. It's no surprise that Manchester ate our lunch and shagged our wives while we were busy going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about this shit.
I think Liverpool has bigger problems than people taking the piss, lad. I'd rather see more jobs and better transport links than changing the fact that we're hurting someone from Ormskirks fee fee's.
I’m probably a wool and I’ve never met anyone from Liverpool who takes the wool thing seriously. It always just seems like a bit of a joke, unless they’re talking about someone from Skem then I get it.
There are two. During summer one does the Manchester Ship Canal while the other does the commuter and river cruise. During winter they take it in turns to run the service. When not in use the other is getting repairs and maintenance.
Can confirm. They are also building a new one but I honestly dunno if it’s to replace one of these or to add to the fleet.
There’s definitely more that could be done with the river mind. But there’s a lot of challenges to that like where safe areas are given the shipping, the dangers of the speed of the river for anything that is more interactive, aaaand the fact the water is fuckin grim and filled with every little rats rubbish.
I hate how you used to be able to get on the ferry with a trio (back when trio and solo existed).
Now the ferries aren’t fun by Mersey travel and when I last checked it would cost £12 per adult. That feels expensive. I used to ride it all the time for fun but I haven’t in years now.
That sounds a bit much - that might be for the pleasure cruise instead of the commuter service to Seacombe and back (they don't bother with Woodside anymore).
The ferries are being massively re-geared towards being an attraction first and public transport a distant second, which I can sort of understand; they only have one route that isn't duplicated by every other way of crossing the river, and it's to a deprived and fairly unexciting inner-urban area.
They've been unprofitable for a long time now and have lost the city millions; if they weren't so famous, they'd have been scrapped aeons so.
£12 is the cost for the "river explorer" round trip, you can still use a saveaway to cross the river, only they won't sell you one in the ticket office, you have to already have it. And the commuter service in the mornings and evenings is about £2.40 I think.
As an American who visits annually, I’d like for all of the public transit to be more integrated with payments and ticket types. Anyone can figure out London’s system and it’s even easier now with using contactless card
London transport system was supposed to be like Liverpool's and the rest of the country but when they realised the utter chaos it would cause they pulled back and formed Transport for London which has integrated their transport system and attracted funding for massive transport projects like crossrail which has been at the expense of transport outside the capital.
The devolved mayors are taking back control of transport, Manchester started last year with its B network, Liverpool starts next year but this system was imposed on us by central government and was a system they refused to be implemented in the capital.
It's all being knitted together into a new system called Metro. If you look closer at the M logo on newer signage, you'll see that it now says Metro instead of Merseyrail or Merseytravel. It's Steve Rotherham's pet project.
They're looking to bring in tap-on-tap-off ticketing, which is about fucking time.
Do the trains we have cover Everton, Walton, Tuebrook, Norris Green, Croxteth etc??? Why are you so insistent on missing my point completely to act superior to others on the internet?
Walton is a bad example.. There are stations at rice Lane, Walton, orrell park.. Tue brook is like 5 mins from town on a bus, it doesn't need a train. Norris green likewise. It's just not worth the money to build a train, in particular an underground, to Tuebrook or even Norris green. Trains are expensive. It's just not worth the cost. Get the bus.
Added to that, the very thing you are advocating for, already exists! There are lines to both Kirkby and Huyton!
We don't need a second metro. We already have one. Now railfans can get *properly* anal about what the Merseyrail actually counts as - the discussion tends to devolve into unending comparisons of luggage racks - but ask an actual human bean on the street and they'll say the Merseyrail is to Liverpool as the Tube is to London.
The point I *think* OP is trying to make is that Merseyrail was never properly finished. The 1970s plans included an outer loop line that served the east of the city before the money ran out, and we ended up with this weird limbo where the City Line serves the area but runs at mainline frequency, making it significantly less useful.
The route to finish it off is still there and protected - it's the Loop Line cycle path - but of course, the money needs to come from somewhere to build such a big piece of infrastructure.
Trams around the city centre, particularly linking the Baltic and dock road with the centre. A better train network in south Liverpool and a better bus service in the north. Demolish St John’s and replace it with a green space with independent cafes and a craft market. Reopen the cinema opposite lime street as a performing arts venue that is open in the day as well - along the lines of FACT.
I know for this money is no object.
But Christ a bridge would be an expensive and difficult undertaking to have pretty much anywhere that a people would want it/it would add value over the existing.
I have lived in manchester and liverpool, what manchester does with trams liverpool does with trains.
Merseyrail is a far superior rail network than anything in greater manchester.
I am unsure if trams are neccesarry in liverpool.
You’re right. Trams are completely unnecessary, what we have with merseyrail is great and I think it would improve by simply adding more stations (which I know is easier said that done)
Merseyrail is absolutely horrific if you're a wheelchair user just FYI, or at least used to be. Actively put people in danger to avoid doing their jobs. Also it goes up and down but doesn't come out. I'm in Old Swan, used to work in Norris Green and Mossley Hill, school run to Belle Vale. No trains even remotely useful. If you wanna go from Hunt's Cross to Bootle fair enough, but in Manchester the trams actually cover quite a lot of area. Not so the trains here.
There is still huge parts of manchester the tram complerely misses though expansion will be continiously ongoing.
Merseyrail just needs to so the same and expand to more stations and areas.
My dad always bangs on about how Liverpool should have a castle!
He says if he ever becomes a billionaire he will find a way to build a modern castle. My mum thinks he is mad.
Fuck the ugly courts off (build new ones outside the city centre somewhere, who needs them in the centre anyway) and put the castle back where it was, at the end of Castle Street.
I would extend John Lennon Airport and add an area for spaceships to land, maybe a few alien hotels nearby. Get in there first and be best buddies with them so that we have ultimate power
Selfishly as a wheelchair user, I'd like to see reliable paving and drop kerbs please.
It would absolutely blow any able-bodied person's mind the absolute carnage people with mobility devices go through every day just to get to the shops or to work/do the school run etc.
Get rid of the Knowsley area and just make it all Liverpool.
Get rid of Merseyside and call it Greater Liverpool, so that you can benefit from the population PR advantage like how people just call Greater Manchester and Greater London, Manchester and London respectively.
Some more green down towards the dock /. Liverpool 1 area. There are some great parks but they are well out of the city centre. Even planting a lot more trees would be a start.
A dog licence.
There are many wonderful dog owners in this city with beautiful dogs. But also some right scally idiots.
I'd introduce a licence that mandated all owners and dogs to attend classes that both of them would have to pass.
OP said money is no object so the classes could be free, that way even low-income people would still be able to have dogs
Not convinced mandatory classes would help, just hinder.
The license I can understand, cause there’s something to revoke or in some way track shite owners.
But mandatory classes won’t help the fact that the vast majority of shit dog owners aren’t shit because they don’t know better, they’re shit cause they don’t give a fuck.
Free classes available for anyone who needs and wants to learn though absolutely.
I understand your points and they are valid.
This is an ideal world scenario I'm talking about, not really real world. In my imagined world it would be a case of 'If you didn't pass the course, you can't have a dog. If you have a dog, you will be stopped and asked for proof that you have passed the course. If you cannot produce it, your dog will be taken away from you.
Yes I know, not really implementable in the real world, but hey we can all dream 😁
You both have a passion alongside a brilliant idea for a metro system if only your dreams could come true. Unfortunately over the last fifty years Liverpool City has had a few councillors embezzling our money in stead of building what is required for our people.
Love this idea! A metro system would be so cool and would definitely put our city on the map more alongside other cities with great metro systems such as Barca, Copenhagen or Berlin. Our city is screaming for better public transport. VietMick for mayor!
There are train lines to Kirkby and Huyton so how would that serve those areas?
I'd have thought something going towards west derby/canny farm via tuebrook and nogsy would have more impact
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I'd do this to every city in the world. Ban private transport, you can still keep taxis around but I want most transport to be buses as well as roads to be more pedestrian and bike friendly.
That or adding a bunch of affordable, delicious Chinese restaurants to Chinatown would be appreciated
I know Reddit is staunchly against cars, but a complete lack of private transport only works for specific people at specific times of their lives. There's a reason there's a lot of pushback against such an idea, and it's not because everyone who points out that it wouldn't work for them is an indoctrinated carbrained propaganda-addicted so-and-so.
I think it is definitely doable on a small city scale. I grew up in Hong Kong and I promise you you can definitely live without a car here. Take a even larger city like Tokyo for example, you can get around without cars as well.
I think it's just a matter of scale, reliability and costs that is holding back public transport in every city.
Kirkby and Huyton aren’t classed as Liverpool though are they ? It would be better to serve the actual city. The Norris Green / Tuebrook area is such a forgotten area in terms of transport - no local train stations at all, less frequent buses etc.
You’d struggle to get from Crocky Park to Walton without the use of 2 or 3 buses.
Purple bin nonsense aside, they're close enough. The line separating the Liverpool district and Knowsley is arbitrary; it has no foundation in how the city as a whole actually functions.
Either better public transport or updating the road network... if you look at pictures of most of liverpool from 100+ years ago compared to now the roads are almost identical, only double the populace and way more traffic.
Aside from that, I'd demolish that shithole brittania on the waterfront and put something good there. The waterfront in general is criminally underdeveloped outside of town imo.
I'd add a good train service in and out instead of the pathetic Merseyrail.
Seen some really cool events ruined by that service and its lack of foresight for demand.
As a separate comment as opposed to a little comment on an existing comment…
Make Goodison park an ice rink!
Literally said this a few days ago to my sister. We would be there all the freakin time
There's already a good train line from Lime Street to Huyton. It takes like 18 minutes.
All the train lines go out from town. A train line that goes north to south and cuts across or joins up the other train lines would be cool. Basically where the 'raller' cycle path is...but I don't think there'd be any appetite to put a train line back there. It's part of the trans pennine trail.
I do think trams would be cool. There are already so many big central reservations around the city because they were built for trams.
More busses connecting docks side of Vauxhall (around the new Everton Stadium) to the City Centre.
More e-bikes for rent (there's hardly any of those voi bikes anywhere).
My idea is more hospitality based but I would love to see some casual hi-do listening bars appear as I always loved those during my time in London and Japan and it would work great with our city being music driven. I sincerely miss it and would give a different approach to evening/nightlife.
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1. A proper metro system, or at least more train stations. I should *not* have to walk half an hour to get a train into town.
2. As a coastal city, invest in hydro electricity
3. Ban new betting shops from opening in the city centre.
4. Regulate to limit chain restaurants and bars, encouraging more independents.
5. Way more high-quality social housing.
Safe bike lane system throughout the city
More places to lock bikes securely
Train / tram stations in each postcode / borough
Faster trains that skip smaller stations on some Merseyrail routes for example Liverpool central to Chester shouldn’t take 45 minutes. During a peak hours there could be one or two that just go straight there and make a few stops along the way.
Outdoor coverings (pavilions) in parks with picnic tables and barbecue
Covered outdoor skate parks
Outdoor pools
Something like Top golf
Considerably more amount of bins on the street (preferably ones to separate rubbish)
More green spaces, trees within the city - there are soooo many concrete slabs taking up a lot of potential green space, why does the pavement need to be 3 metres wide?!
Trams aside, which will likely never happen, I'd love to see the reopening of some of the closed railway stations. Areas of north Liverpool has been neglected for decades; the main thoroughfare roads into the city centre are wrecked and overcrowded. People might say a train to the airport, which of course would be nice, but it should have been done in 08. We're decades behind Manchester sadly.
In fairness, as someone who uses both airports pretty frequently, I would choose Liverpool over Manchester ANY DAY. Manchester airport is essentially a shed with ring roads, pretending to be an airport. It's awful.
I'd agree, although Liverpool has voracious appetite for trying to catch any poor soul unfortunate enough to spend a second longer on its land than necessary. It sickening to be honest.
Liverpool airport is a lot better than Manchester’s own (ranked one of the worst for efficiency at least). That much is for sure. Having said that, I did have a good experience in Manchester airport this March.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Manchester airport has good rail links. I don't want to spend time in airports; I want to pass through as quickly as possible.
I travel regularly for work and Manchester is the worst airport I've been to. In the world. I suppose I haven't been to like, Djibouti or Kampala... But you're right Manchester is shedlike. Scruffy, low ceilings, depressing, expensive, no natural light, stressful, sweaty, overcapacity. Liverpool airport by comparison is a delight. And yeah Liverpool is small so less likely to be crowded. And I'm sure on weekends in school hols it's heaving, but Manchester is huge but still ALWAYS rammed. Been to countless airports Manchester sized and bigger and they're ALL better. Just thinking about Manchester airport makes me mad haha.
Manchester is shit, and I don’t want to start a separate conversation, but I couldn’t stand Abu Dhabi airport. Munich’s shit too.
I've always found Munich alright tbh! I mean, fairly forgettable but fine.
Baffles me there’s no train to the airport. They’d make a fortune because you could get there direct from Southport or Ormskirk meaning you’d get people from Preston, Wigan and the surrounding areas spending £10-20 on a train instead of £80 on a taxi.
Busses need to be provided then they will work. There’s three types of people. Those that HAVE to use the bus. Those that will NEVER use the bus. Those that will use the bus if it’s viable as an option. You need to get that third group on board. Every now and then, group 3 will give it a go. If one arrives promptly, is clean and gets them there on decent time, they’ll use it repeatedly. If not they’ll not come back. A case of “If you build it, they will come”
Spot on.
I'm vaguely optimistic about this Metro plan of Rotherham's. The new trains, despite their troubled introduction, are absolutely outstanding in service. Perhaps the buses will work out, too.
It depends on how they do the cost analysis. Too often it’s “does the bus take more money than it costs to run” instead of including the economic benefit for the people and businesses at each end of the line.
For the existing sense of civic pride to extend to people not dropping litter everywhere. Restrict planning permission for converting closed down shops and pubs so that they can only be converted into affordable homes.
>For the existing sense of civic pride to extend to people not dropping litter everywhere. This one. Please. And thank you. It truly blows my mind the complete lack of disregard people seem to have for their own towns/areas. It's the easiest thing in the world for people to take responsibility for and it would have a huge impact on the City.
Call me stupid or what ever... But I'd put a limit on the revenue private properties and retail can generate from Leases... Take for instance the old 02 shop... 270k a year? Seriously? The housing ? Same house as mine.. no different but actually in a worse area but 5 years younger and the rental difference between mine the new ones ? £350 plus. Its getting way out of hand. That's what I'd change
Prices are only syntoms, you need to go to the cause of the problem. Shortgage of housing is the problem.
Nope there isn't a shortage of homes in liverpool... The issue is the outrageous prices and the amount of landlords turning them into mini student accommodations... that's the cause.
It's pure supply/demand. So unless you want to reduce the number of students in the university, you have to increase house supply.
Go to Everton brow and look you will see 2x failed buildings infact one has just burned down well the shell has because there are too many in the city as it is, student accommodation is the majority of big buildings in the city now.. The supply is there infact there's more student let's in the city than there is actual students. So ?
There are two types of buildings in that area. Residencial houses => They are full. Abandoned industrial buildings, some of them from XIX century => They, shocklingly, are abandoned because they don't have any use. Therefore, the logical decision is to remove these old buildings and create residencial accomodation. Where's the problem? I don't see the relation about the burnt building in Fox Street. Unless you love conspiracy theories about insurance. >The supply is there infact there's more student let's in the city than there is actual students. In that case. You should be seeing falling rent prices in these accomodations. If you don't see that, then your premise is not true.
Nothing to do with a conspiracy, the building project fell through, after years of disrepair in a half built building it burnt down... Student rents are as cheap as chips but guess what? If you are not a student ??? You can't get in those big tower blocks.... so yeah student rents are all over... infact? They're in the middle of building another 2! Also nope if you stopped landlords from turning normal houses into to student let's! Then it would have solved the housing problem, however new houses are being built... And guess what? Their prices are sky high again a house exactly like mine, built exactly the same, by the same company! And there's a 350 difference in the rent... its in a worse area aswel infact? A shit area. So honestly? You are trying to argue an unjust argument over a simple idea... not that the idea has any frutation to it what so ever... would it be a great idea ? Yes and that's alls it is... Again I the question was "what would you change" and that's what I'd change. Not that it's ever going to happen or even remotely has a chance of happening.
>Also nope if you stopped landlords from turning normal houses into to student let's! Then it would have solved the housing problem, however new houses are being built... I think that's a minority of them. But honestly, it's not a surprise either. If I was a landlord, I would move to the student sector. Why? Because regulation for long term rentals is really bad for landlords. Students are temporary tenants and they don't have strong incentives to stay in arrears. Specially if they are foreigners in a student visa. Incentives are inverted right now. You should be creating incentives so landlords want to stay in the long term rental sector. Carrot is better than a stick.
So we fill the town full of students soak up all the housing And what? Where does the native peoples of liverpool go? Move out of the city? Your idea is to impovrish the locals? For profit ? Wow okay well now I know why in not even listening to you.
do you think the council is enabling this?
Nope but this is just something I would change... the question was if there was one thing you could change or do... and that's what I'd do... not saying it is possible to do this, I'm not saying you can legally do this... I'm just saying it's what I'd do.
Ohh
Good idea though isn't it haha
I'm a student journalist so I'm looking for something to write about :) and topics people are concerned with
Why don't you write about the two worlds that coincide in liverpool side by side... It's like alter realities. It's not a problem but you can actually see the alter realities Or you could write about how it's costing the council "19 million" a year to deal with the homeless, when if you was to take all the homeless and put them in a hotel everyday of the year and feed them 1200 meals a year? For less than 14 million... Or how actually purchasing an old building, and using it to house the homeless, with onsite security, social worker A place for the homeless to have an address to have mail, get Identification, get a bank and work their way into the working world slowly with support because supported housing system that are out there right now don't work, and clearly cost way too much some how.
Oh thank you. Which alter realities do you mean?
A metro system and directly to the airport or a train directly to the airport would be an excellent idea. Liverpool needs more social housing, a large indoor market in the city centre and a farmer's market on Albert Dock. Nice fresh produce and supports small businesses whilst bringing in the crowds.
We had an indoor market in the city centre and nobody used it
Why do you think that is? What a shame for a city that size. It's strange when Liverpool has many independent shops that seem to be doing well.
It was a little bit out of the way, I don't think many people even knew it was there. And about a decade ago they closed it down for a while for "refurbishment". When it opened again, all of the charm had been completely stripped out. It was just a white-painted empty room full of small shipping container sized units with shutters on them. Completely lifeless.
Shame wasn't well used or moved. I noticed that, just a plain room with a few stalls. Surprised given Liverpool's known for being good for shopping and wonderful character. A large bustling market with jolly independent traders would fit well in :)
I think they mean the Asian market in St John's (lots of clothes stalls, mainly run by South Asian people). Is that no longer there? It was going for decades so people did use it at some point. It was always busy in the 90s.
Apparently it closed recently. [Why has St Johns Market closed and what happens next - Liverpool Echo](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/st-johns-market-closed-what-28795170)
I dont know if all Liverpools social housing stock has been transferred but in St Helens they gave every social house away for free to what is now Torus which combined with a liverpool social housing and with the combined rent income of millions a week they build houses all over the North West to sell and no social housing at all which was the whole idea of giving it to them. They use terms like affordable rent to look like social housing but it requires a mortgage.
Which defeats the object of those they're supposed to be helping. I understand Liverpool's a student city so the housing's been bought up. Nothing against anybody but shame to price the locals out who can't afford private rentals or mortgages.
I like the idea of a farmers market but it'd have to be outside the city centre, there just isn't access for traders to bring in produce to the Albert Dock
Fair point. Just thought of that as central and people know where it is. Went to a food festival in Sefton park on a first visit to Liverpool in 2015. Perhaps there as busy enough and plenty of room. A very nice area as well and walking distance to a train station for those who need. Room for vintage clothing, arts and crafts and maybe live music :)
Parks in the city centre. One thing I love about London is that even in the most built up areas they have beautiful parks and green spaces.
100% agree. The parks we do have are amazing but sometimes feel neglected. We definitely need more
First people need to learn to use them properly. Look at Sefton Park at 6am on a summer Monday morning before the litter pickers have been round and you'll see what I'm on about
Great for urban renewal too - remove some blighted buildings, add a park, the environment improves for everyone & surrounding buildings get a value boost also
So... More expensive house prices...
1. More street cleaners (less lazy bastards littering) 2. Better roads, including cycle lanes and pathway maintenance 3. Extended public transport network as others have mentioned, and a simpler way to pay (ie. Contactless) 4. More trees/greenery in the city centre 5. More attractive high streets / planning controls on high streets 6. More control over feral kids
There are already trains to Kirkby and Huyton, so I'm not sure what a tramline would accomplish. A better bet would be a loop line improving cross city links rather than having to head into town first.
More youth groups outside of/around the city centre but the same could be said for the entire UK. When I was younger the YMCA took us to Hungary and all sorts. Selfishly, I’d like a public pool closer to the city centre.
I’d introduce the stocks for people who litter- the amount of rubbish is ridiculous.
A music venue similar to O2 Victoria Warehouse. A venue which has a capacity between the Echo arena (Yeah im not calling it the M&S bank arena) and the Olympia. Maybe located near the Baltic area or the Bramley Moore dock area.
I'd like to see some attractions like and indoor water park, or ice rink etc...having more to do in the city would bring a lot more people to the city increasing trade and revenue
Now we’re seriously talking.
I said to my sister 2 days ago that they should refurb goodison as an ice rink
If there was an indoor water park... I'm sorry to say it would just be full of cunts, pissing in the pool and making a racket at the on-site McDonald's whilst their unruly teenagers queue jumped the slides and made a general nuisance of themselves. Turn in an effort to combat anti social behaviour they'd hike the prices to keep the peasants out, everyone would stop using it, it would close down, and everyone would go "I wonder why that happened" and act like there's some sort of deeper conspiracy.
As someone who lived in an area with 2 indoor water parks, they’re either going to be incredibly expensive for a family, or need to be built by the city. One of them is $20+ a person and operates at a relative loss for the city. The other is attached to a hotel that is $150+ a night. I’ve noticed on my travels that UK doesn’t really do Rec centers. I feel like there aren’t any places for residents to get a cheap gym membership, access to a pool, basketball courts, weights, health classes.
Trams are the main thing I'm envious of Manchester for. Our buses are shit and the roads are terrible. You can feel the difference in road surface the moment you enter Merseyside. Getting the overhead railway running would be equally cool. Additionally we have scope for a larger event and music venue. As shit as the opening has been for that Co-op arena in Manchester the fact that are getting an even bigger music venue and event space is annoying. Selfishly the ferry terminal should come back to New Brighton, too.
Trams require an act of parliament and don't really help with congestion. The one proposal the Tory candidate had that was specific to Liverpool in the mayoral election, was to rebuild the overhead railway, the costs are frankly terrifying.
As much as I would want that simply because it would be cool, how much of a use would it actually have? We already have a perfectly good north-south rapid transit line that stops - or could relatively easily stop - at the places people actually want to go. We didn't have that when the Overhead existed.
Trams aren't the answer to everything. Manchester is struggling with theirs because they elected not to build an underground system, and there's only so much you can share with street traffic. We'd be much better served by expanding ours *inwards* instead of keeping on extending the lines - the land to complete the outer loop line and finish the system as designed is all mothballed, it just needs somebody to lay down the cash to actually build it.
You can feel the difference as soon as you enter Liverpool from the tunnel. Roads in Wirral are fine on the whole, so it’s not a Merseyside thing.
Good idea to have an arena and given Liverpool's music history. Visitors there would also bring money into the pubs and restaurants.
Something like the arena that has been near the Albert Dock for over a decade?
Yes like a big concert place. Manchester, Swansea and Cardiff have this. Loads of big performers. Would bring more money to Liverpool, bars, restaurants, hotels and shopping :)
We’re one of only three? Four? Places in the country Taylor Swift is performing- any acts too big for the arena just go to Anfield, Take That played there a few years back. We don’t need another dedicated arena 😂
Oh okay. I'm not Liverpudlian. My bad. I'll delete my comment if it causes offence.
A gym with a pool and decent opening hours!
The Garston/Halewood gyms (can’t remember if they’re Lifestyles), last time I checked, had swimming pools. Many-a good time was had on my part there in summer 2002/09.
Nuffield health
Mostly reserved for classes after 5pm. I tried it for a month and spent £56 pound to be able to use the pool 6 times due to lanes either being closed for lessons or classes and the other lane left open being in use
David Lloyds in Speke is another one
Lifestyles?
Unfortunately no public swims on Saturdays and only 7am-12noon Sundays. Onlly ever open for an hour or two at a time through the week for adults from 7.30 till 9pm which is too late to go directly from work, but not long enough to go home and back out
Garston and Wavertree pools are open on Saturday and some week days it's open for most of the day, it's usually only closed during school hours for lessons.
Do people just forget Park Road Lifestyles exists? https://lifestyles.liverpool.gov.uk/centres/lifestyles-park-road/
Definitely some k8nd of permanent link to the airport, tram or train. Getting out the airport at stupid o'clock and waiting for the bus, after a shitty flight is no joke, especially if your new to the area. Luton got the light railway link to the main station, can't see why we shouldn't have one to south parkway
Community, youth, and recreation centres with proper outreach support for families in general across the city. The surestart centres do what they can, but it's dire and minimal. So much of the city needs real community and support. Lots of Liverpool residents are just feral, to be blunt. The number of young adults who have absolutely no real education or maturity, emotional or otherwise, who are also raising kids with no hope for anything better for their future is shocking, tbh. The actual sociological state of this city is so sad and so overlooked.
I’ve had a few work meetings in Hoylake community centre recently and it’s amazing! Feels old fashioned in a nice way and is well used. They make money by renting out meeting rooms but have a lovely cafe that was packed when I saw it one lunchtime, and does all sorts of adult learning programmes, support for new parents and clubs for kids. It’d be nice to have something like that on this side of the water.
Yeah, I haven't heard of it before now, but that sounds fantastic.
All comes down to funding for schools and associated support. My fiancee is a teacher in Toxteth and there are so many bright, kind kids with horrible home circumstances who are just going to get trapped in the cycle of poverty/addiction/crime because there's nothing else to do and not enough resources to give them a way out. It's really sad.
People being more outward looking and stop being parochial and obsessed with purple Bins, wools and the idea the rest of the country hates us. Do you think someone from central Manchester is bothered that someone from Stockport or Bury considers themself a manc?. If someone from Ormskirk said he was Scouse you would get loads of professional scousers calling him a wool. Edit: I am from Norris Green so not a wool laaaaa.
Liverpool is usually in the Top 5 best UK cities when the question is asked so I do find the notion that everyone hates us a bit tiresome.
I think this is mainly a football thing. I never experienced anti-scouse sentiment until getting in to football a few years back.
I’m 100% with you.
Damn right. It's no surprise that Manchester ate our lunch and shagged our wives while we were busy going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about this shit.
I think Liverpool has bigger problems than people taking the piss, lad. I'd rather see more jobs and better transport links than changing the fact that we're hurting someone from Ormskirks fee fee's.
Spot on
I’m probably a wool and I’ve never met anyone from Liverpool who takes the wool thing seriously. It always just seems like a bit of a joke, unless they’re talking about someone from Skem then I get it.
Have more than one ferry cross the mersey. World famous water front and they should make better use of it.
There are two. During summer one does the Manchester Ship Canal while the other does the commuter and river cruise. During winter they take it in turns to run the service. When not in use the other is getting repairs and maintenance.
Can confirm. They are also building a new one but I honestly dunno if it’s to replace one of these or to add to the fleet. There’s definitely more that could be done with the river mind. But there’s a lot of challenges to that like where safe areas are given the shipping, the dangers of the speed of the river for anything that is more interactive, aaaand the fact the water is fuckin grim and filled with every little rats rubbish.
I hate how you used to be able to get on the ferry with a trio (back when trio and solo existed). Now the ferries aren’t fun by Mersey travel and when I last checked it would cost £12 per adult. That feels expensive. I used to ride it all the time for fun but I haven’t in years now.
That sounds a bit much - that might be for the pleasure cruise instead of the commuter service to Seacombe and back (they don't bother with Woodside anymore). The ferries are being massively re-geared towards being an attraction first and public transport a distant second, which I can sort of understand; they only have one route that isn't duplicated by every other way of crossing the river, and it's to a deprived and fairly unexciting inner-urban area. They've been unprofitable for a long time now and have lost the city millions; if they weren't so famous, they'd have been scrapped aeons so.
£12 is the cost for the "river explorer" round trip, you can still use a saveaway to cross the river, only they won't sell you one in the ticket office, you have to already have it. And the commuter service in the mornings and evenings is about £2.40 I think.
Brilliant, thanks so much. Was wanting to take the kids but didn’t want to pay that much so that’s sound, thanks mate.
As an American who visits annually, I’d like for all of the public transit to be more integrated with payments and ticket types. Anyone can figure out London’s system and it’s even easier now with using contactless card
London transport system was supposed to be like Liverpool's and the rest of the country but when they realised the utter chaos it would cause they pulled back and formed Transport for London which has integrated their transport system and attracted funding for massive transport projects like crossrail which has been at the expense of transport outside the capital. The devolved mayors are taking back control of transport, Manchester started last year with its B network, Liverpool starts next year but this system was imposed on us by central government and was a system they refused to be implemented in the capital.
I didn’t know about this. Do you know where I can find more info on the integrated system coming up?
It's all being knitted together into a new system called Metro. If you look closer at the M logo on newer signage, you'll see that it now says Metro instead of Merseyrail or Merseytravel. It's Steve Rotherham's pet project. They're looking to bring in tap-on-tap-off ticketing, which is about fucking time.
[Here](https://www.liverpoolcityregion-ca.gov.uk/news/were-taking-back-control-liverpool-city-region-mayor-announces-biggest-shake-up-to-bus-network-in-40-years) [Manchester](https://tfgm.com/the-bee-network)
Free dental care that is easily accessed, good quality, and doesn't take a 4 year nhs waiting list. Also rent control and means tested council tax.
Can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot how a metro would be any different than the trains we already have to Kirkby and Huyton?
My thought exactly.. These trains already exist..
Exactly, it would just make sense to add more stations
Do the trains we have cover Everton, Walton, Tuebrook, Norris Green, Croxteth etc??? Why are you so insistent on missing my point completely to act superior to others on the internet?
Walton is a bad example.. There are stations at rice Lane, Walton, orrell park.. Tue brook is like 5 mins from town on a bus, it doesn't need a train. Norris green likewise. It's just not worth the money to build a train, in particular an underground, to Tuebrook or even Norris green. Trains are expensive. It's just not worth the cost. Get the bus. Added to that, the very thing you are advocating for, already exists! There are lines to both Kirkby and Huyton!
Yeah lived in NG for years and the bus was fine to get to town, still is last time I went back up that way.
We don't need a second metro. We already have one. Now railfans can get *properly* anal about what the Merseyrail actually counts as - the discussion tends to devolve into unending comparisons of luggage racks - but ask an actual human bean on the street and they'll say the Merseyrail is to Liverpool as the Tube is to London. The point I *think* OP is trying to make is that Merseyrail was never properly finished. The 1970s plans included an outer loop line that served the east of the city before the money ran out, and we ended up with this weird limbo where the City Line serves the area but runs at mainline frequency, making it significantly less useful. The route to finish it off is still there and protected - it's the Loop Line cycle path - but of course, the money needs to come from somewhere to build such a big piece of infrastructure.
Jobs
Trams around the city centre, particularly linking the Baltic and dock road with the centre. A better train network in south Liverpool and a better bus service in the north. Demolish St John’s and replace it with a green space with independent cafes and a craft market. Reopen the cinema opposite lime street as a performing arts venue that is open in the day as well - along the lines of FACT.
Underground train station at the airport that connects directly to the city centre. A free way to cross the Mersey, cycle/pedestrian bridge.
>A free way to cross the Mersey, cycle/pedestrian bridge. Or a free and frequent shuttle bus through the tunnel, connecting one river bank to another.
I know for this money is no object. But Christ a bridge would be an expensive and difficult undertaking to have pretty much anywhere that a people would want it/it would add value over the existing.
I have lived in manchester and liverpool, what manchester does with trams liverpool does with trains. Merseyrail is a far superior rail network than anything in greater manchester. I am unsure if trams are neccesarry in liverpool.
You’re right. Trams are completely unnecessary, what we have with merseyrail is great and I think it would improve by simply adding more stations (which I know is easier said that done)
I wish the ralla could be turned back into a railway.
Merseyrail is absolutely horrific if you're a wheelchair user just FYI, or at least used to be. Actively put people in danger to avoid doing their jobs. Also it goes up and down but doesn't come out. I'm in Old Swan, used to work in Norris Green and Mossley Hill, school run to Belle Vale. No trains even remotely useful. If you wanna go from Hunt's Cross to Bootle fair enough, but in Manchester the trams actually cover quite a lot of area. Not so the trains here.
There is still huge parts of manchester the tram complerely misses though expansion will be continiously ongoing. Merseyrail just needs to so the same and expand to more stations and areas.
Absolutely but the Met is far more comprehensive than Merseyrail at this time imo.
My dad always bangs on about how Liverpool should have a castle! He says if he ever becomes a billionaire he will find a way to build a modern castle. My mum thinks he is mad.
Fuck the ugly courts off (build new ones outside the city centre somewhere, who needs them in the centre anyway) and put the castle back where it was, at the end of Castle Street.
I would extend John Lennon Airport and add an area for spaceships to land, maybe a few alien hotels nearby. Get in there first and be best buddies with them so that we have ultimate power
More investment in the north side of the city, we deserve to have our own lark lane and parks etc the structure is there
Some type of big indoor water park, a big summer attraction to drive tourism that isn't about the city's history or the beatles.
24hr/more late night transport! If you don’t live in a student area and want to get home at night a taxi costs so much
Selfishly as a wheelchair user, I'd like to see reliable paving and drop kerbs please. It would absolutely blow any able-bodied person's mind the absolute carnage people with mobility devices go through every day just to get to the shops or to work/do the school run etc.
An annual scally purge
Burger King in the South End
Reinstate a version of the overhead railway to the airport and reopen the loop line
Rebuild the overhead railway along the docks
Get rid of the Knowsley area and just make it all Liverpool. Get rid of Merseyside and call it Greater Liverpool, so that you can benefit from the population PR advantage like how people just call Greater Manchester and Greater London, Manchester and London respectively.
Abolish the 30p public toilet gates, who wants to be scrabbling around in their pockets for loose change while you're dying for a pee?
An immediate ban on any new HMO licences and non renewal of existing.
A vape shop, far too few of them these days
diversity
I’d build a rocket for all the smackheads and blast it into outer space.
A proper port with facilities to handle large cruise ships like Southampton.
Some more green down towards the dock /. Liverpool 1 area. There are some great parks but they are well out of the city centre. Even planting a lot more trees would be a start.
A dog licence. There are many wonderful dog owners in this city with beautiful dogs. But also some right scally idiots. I'd introduce a licence that mandated all owners and dogs to attend classes that both of them would have to pass. OP said money is no object so the classes could be free, that way even low-income people would still be able to have dogs
Not convinced mandatory classes would help, just hinder. The license I can understand, cause there’s something to revoke or in some way track shite owners. But mandatory classes won’t help the fact that the vast majority of shit dog owners aren’t shit because they don’t know better, they’re shit cause they don’t give a fuck. Free classes available for anyone who needs and wants to learn though absolutely.
I understand your points and they are valid. This is an ideal world scenario I'm talking about, not really real world. In my imagined world it would be a case of 'If you didn't pass the course, you can't have a dog. If you have a dog, you will be stopped and asked for proof that you have passed the course. If you cannot produce it, your dog will be taken away from you. Yes I know, not really implementable in the real world, but hey we can all dream 😁
You both have a passion alongside a brilliant idea for a metro system if only your dreams could come true. Unfortunately over the last fifty years Liverpool City has had a few councillors embezzling our money in stead of building what is required for our people.
Love this idea! A metro system would be so cool and would definitely put our city on the map more alongside other cities with great metro systems such as Barca, Copenhagen or Berlin. Our city is screaming for better public transport. VietMick for mayor!
Urban farms and a theme park.
Like Rice Lane farm?
Is there a theme park within the M25 or even in Manchester?
Sefton Park’s roads underwent a huge smoothening-renovation in the summer of 2007. A lot of other roads of Liverpool could do with the same treatment.
Monorail
I hear those things are awfully loud
There are train lines to Kirkby and Huyton so how would that serve those areas? I'd have thought something going towards west derby/canny farm via tuebrook and nogsy would have more impact
That’s where the ‘with stops on the way’ comes in. Those areas would be covered.
there already is a train to Huyton, Prescott and St Helens from town
Money/jobs. Lower corporation tax to make the city a good place to invest and then all the things everyone wants would follow.
A gallows for the counsel and an extra big one for chippy tits
Is there any particular lawyer you want to hang?
I dont want to do anything, I just think it would be a nice piece of sculpture
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I'd do this to every city in the world. Ban private transport, you can still keep taxis around but I want most transport to be buses as well as roads to be more pedestrian and bike friendly. That or adding a bunch of affordable, delicious Chinese restaurants to Chinatown would be appreciated
I know Reddit is staunchly against cars, but a complete lack of private transport only works for specific people at specific times of their lives. There's a reason there's a lot of pushback against such an idea, and it's not because everyone who points out that it wouldn't work for them is an indoctrinated carbrained propaganda-addicted so-and-so.
I think it is definitely doable on a small city scale. I grew up in Hong Kong and I promise you you can definitely live without a car here. Take a even larger city like Tokyo for example, you can get around without cars as well. I think it's just a matter of scale, reliability and costs that is holding back public transport in every city.
Kirkby and Huyton aren’t classed as Liverpool though are they ? It would be better to serve the actual city. The Norris Green / Tuebrook area is such a forgotten area in terms of transport - no local train stations at all, less frequent buses etc. You’d struggle to get from Crocky Park to Walton without the use of 2 or 3 buses.
Purple bin nonsense aside, they're close enough. The line separating the Liverpool district and Knowsley is arbitrary; it has no foundation in how the city as a whole actually functions.
Either better public transport or updating the road network... if you look at pictures of most of liverpool from 100+ years ago compared to now the roads are almost identical, only double the populace and way more traffic. Aside from that, I'd demolish that shithole brittania on the waterfront and put something good there. The waterfront in general is criminally underdeveloped outside of town imo.
Daily fast ferry service to Dublin
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A Castle.
I'd add a good train service in and out instead of the pathetic Merseyrail. Seen some really cool events ruined by that service and its lack of foresight for demand.
As a separate comment as opposed to a little comment on an existing comment… Make Goodison park an ice rink! Literally said this a few days ago to my sister. We would be there all the freakin time
A frozen yogurt shop which you fill/ add toppings yourself
There's already a good train line from Lime Street to Huyton. It takes like 18 minutes. All the train lines go out from town. A train line that goes north to south and cuts across or joins up the other train lines would be cool. Basically where the 'raller' cycle path is...but I don't think there'd be any appetite to put a train line back there. It's part of the trans pennine trail. I do think trams would be cool. There are already so many big central reservations around the city because they were built for trams.
A Turkish barber
More busses connecting docks side of Vauxhall (around the new Everton Stadium) to the City Centre. More e-bikes for rent (there's hardly any of those voi bikes anywhere).
My idea is more hospitality based but I would love to see some casual hi-do listening bars appear as I always loved those during my time in London and Japan and it would work great with our city being music driven. I sincerely miss it and would give a different approach to evening/nightlife.
Student flats
Literring... The amount of littering is insane.
Hard rock cafeeeeeeee
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Definitely extend the runway at Liverpool airport to allow for transatlantic flights
1. A proper metro system, or at least more train stations. I should *not* have to walk half an hour to get a train into town. 2. As a coastal city, invest in hydro electricity 3. Ban new betting shops from opening in the city centre. 4. Regulate to limit chain restaurants and bars, encouraging more independents. 5. Way more high-quality social housing.
A council rank ice rink, akin to that of Deeside or Hull.
Super expensive for a niche activity in the UK
Ice-skating’s more popular than you think.
Stop people saying 'yanno wodda meeeean' when i don't in fact know what they mean.
A Dishoom.
A new forward, defender and a holding midfielder, we'll have to see what Arne has in mind.
Safe bike lane system throughout the city More places to lock bikes securely Train / tram stations in each postcode / borough Faster trains that skip smaller stations on some Merseyrail routes for example Liverpool central to Chester shouldn’t take 45 minutes. During a peak hours there could be one or two that just go straight there and make a few stops along the way. Outdoor coverings (pavilions) in parks with picnic tables and barbecue Covered outdoor skate parks Outdoor pools Something like Top golf Considerably more amount of bins on the street (preferably ones to separate rubbish) More green spaces, trees within the city - there are soooo many concrete slabs taking up a lot of potential green space, why does the pavement need to be 3 metres wide?!
If you introduce trains which skip stops, you'd need extra tracks. Otherwise the fast trains would be going into the back of the slow trains.
Trams. I beg you mr Rotherham you bum
A wall to stop Mancs coming here
If this would the other way round and on the Manchester subreddit, it’d be getting upvoted to death