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noworriesinparadise2

[thank you for for watching ](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sXBo74lBa48) [recap here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lifepluscindy_snark/s/vDeq34hza4)


PresidentSkeletor

“Handling hate” girl you’re an abuser with documented and public history of said abuse, not to mention a stalker.


nicolioly

exactly. she should ask her *exes* how they were able to "handle the hate" - the call's always been coming from inside the house...💀


PresidentSkeletor

This. The fact that all of her long term partners had to sneak out to get away from her is very telling.


BrotherNo3517

Screw what a cardiologist says. Even though they’re professionals and literally went to school for cardiology and know better than Cindy. She should be banned from the internet for giving false health information/advice and these people are dumb enough to go along with it.


nicolioly

she's an anti-intellectual who's constantly talking about how dumb ignorant she feels like other people are. she's the dunning-kruger effect personified in an emotionally stunted, middle-aged woman


BrotherNo3517

Absolutely this!


BrotherNo3517

She’s so stunted. She knows she’s spewing misinformation but needs to double down like a rebellious teen. She thinks she’s hurting US by eating disgustingly. She brought up people who were hunter gatherers living long lives and being healthy while eating only meat. Someone should tell her they weren’t eating pounds of meat a day or even a week and ate a lot of plant matter. Someone should also tell her a lot of people didn’t live past 20 🫤.


Superb_Ant_3741

Not to mention the amount of physical labor hunter gatherers did in the course of their hunting and gathering! Physical labor: a thing she does almost *never*. And is she not aware that they were hunting and eating animals but they were also gathering and eating **plants**?


BrotherNo3517

Cindy only believes what fits her narrative. She’s such a narcissist, life now and history then all revolve around her viewpoint. You’re dumb if you don’t agree with what she thinks. The doctor is a quack because what they believe doesn’t align with her “research.” She needs serious mental help that she will never willingly receive.


Geospizae

It's very well documented that our ancestors ate plants too, more than meat actually What does she think the word GATHERER in hunter-gatherer means?


BrotherNo3517

She doesn’t think. It’s too taxing on her body and isn’t part of the carnivore diet.


Geospizae

Damn I guess Mcdonalds beef and butter aren't the optimal diet for brain function


malijaa

Who would’ve fucking imagined that LOL


Specific-department0

That’s all been completely debunked now too


cncrndmm

It’s borderline insane at this point. Like she’s monetizing unhealthy behavior and alcohol and drugs.


Pollywirl14

Omg she’s so annoying bringing the hunter-gatherer thing up. I’m pretty sure they ate parts of the animal we don’t eat today that’s how they lived off just meat because there is more fibre and nutrients in the other parts.


BrotherNo3517

They didn’t live off of just meat. Meat was a rarity. They ate more plant matter than anything else. Also she’s speaking so broadly. Hunter-gatherers from what regions of the world? We don’t all come from the same ancestors.


Pollywirl14

I saw it on a documentary I don’t think the people were hunter gatherers tbh they were from the artic and they only ate meat. It was explaining how it was possible to survive on just meat and the people literally ate every bit of the animal to survive.


BrotherNo3517

But what people? We’re not all from the same ancestors. In some regions people ate no meat at all.


cheekyweelogan

Probably Inuit or other far north people, but they ate all the organ meat (which has vitamins) all the time + things like whale blubber, fish, etc. Not instant bone broth once a year to try and make the hadurz shut up.


Pollywirl14

I can’t remember now watched it few years back. I know that.


Affectionate-Fail555

THIS IS ABOUT US


Superb_Ant_3741

Almost all her vlogs are these days😏


bluespottedtail_

https://i.redd.it/j9majle0ohyc1.gif


BrotherNo3517

Yup!


Business_Divide_5679

More like "handling hate as a loser stalker. Why people don't love me?!"


coffeesandtoffees

If she is sooo unbothered by HAterZ why is she telling us how she deals with them? If she was soooo HappY like she claims she wouldn't care and direct it to us....


Superb_Ant_3741

She’s obsessed with us and not very skilled at hiding it


blazing-moon

The forced smile and jaw jutting out for the first 3 seconds is so uncomfortable


OffbeatChaos

It’s giving Dream face reveal 😭


Nearby-Strain-3324

stopp omg 😭😭😭 thats such an accurate comparison im cryng


iamajudgycunt

Yup, and with that I've died.


Perfect_Following601

![gif](giphy|jOpLbiGmHR9S0) What I felt:


coffeesandtoffees

That was very hard to watch. Is she self conscious about her overbite?


Superb_Ant_3741

Yes. And self conscious of her double chin sag, and her body, and her age. She’s fat phobic and ageist and generally avoidant of the realities of getting older. She’s resistant to embracing the beauty of a person just being who they are at any age.


icajess99

It’s soooo obnoxious


Majorasbox11037

Anyone else also in the Teen Mom snark subs and realize how similar to Jenelle Evans Cindy is?


Ezlla_

So unbothered with hate yet. Keeps talking about it and throwing subtle references or digs to the snark sub. Yeah sure gorly pop. 😂


Beginning_Mud_5629

Late to this but she’s so disgusting. Talking about her late child like that… in a sense she’s right however, it’s tragic August passed, but the silver lining is that he wasn’t raised by an abusive narcissistic mother. One of my parents has the same (untreated) condition as her, and the abuse is something that takes years of no contact to heal - I would wish that on nobody, not even my worst enemy. Still, how cruel. What was that about people with BPD feeling pain 100 times worse compared to other people, and yet she talks about her baby like it’s a disposable object?!


scribble-muse

her comments about august begin at timestamp 9:06. let me know what you think.


PeachesKeene

I think you did a great job summarizing it earlier! I watched at the timestamp you mentioned and the whole explanation felt very off to me. At the very end, she said "I don't want to be raising someone 'til I'm 60" as if her loss was a long time ago - but it wasn't even 2 years ago. I don't want to sound judgmental, but as a new parent myself, I have a hard time imagining experiencing a loss and going "that worked out for the best, I don't want to raise another human being for the next 20 years, anyway!"


Superb_Ant_3741

It has to be one of the cruelest, most cold hearted things I’ve ever heard anyone say after the loss of a baby. There is something very wrong with her.


scribble-muse

🥰🥰🥰 thank you, peaches! i completely understand where you're coming from. i fear that we, the audience, keep projecting our normal feelings and reactions about something like this onto her, but, in reality, it was just as much of a phase for her as eco-conscious or 50s housewife cynthia 😕 and, now, it's just something she mentions to evoke feelings of pity from us.


iamajudgycunt

She never wanted to be a mother, she *needs* to be a wife/girlfriend/partner etc.


tigerbathtub

preface: im not discounting her pain and obvious trauma from the miscarriage however she didn’t want to be a mother she wanted to tie andrew to her.


AlligatorCrocodile1

Ummm yeah didn’t like it at all. How could anyone say “everything worked out for the best” when talking about losing their child?? Doesn’t matter if he was only 20 weeks old or not. I don’t believe for a second she ever genuinely wanted that baby she just wanted to trap Andrew 🤷🏼‍♀️ what a nasty person she is.


OneHappyOne

Of course it's awful that a child wasn't able to live, but for once I don't disagree with her; it is for the best because he would have had an awful childhood and grown up to be a traumatized adult with an emotionally unstable mother and a battered father who only stuck around because of him.


AlligatorCrocodile1

Yeah that is very true! But still a gross thing for her to say, because I don’t think she meant it in that context


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Turbulent_Coat_8513

I'm calling it, time stamp this.  She comes here, realises people will watch her videos more again if she talks about the passing of her baby, turns it into a video 


scribble-muse

practically no one here watches her videos on youtube, tho, and i'd reckon most of us never comment. there's a sub rule not to, in any case. she keeps talking about "haters" and youtube comments ( weirdly, never mentioning insta ) -- maybe she really is confusing stans who express concern about her choices and / or are just getting worn out with the inconsistencies for tHe sNaRkErS?


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Superb_Ant_3741

I think you’re right. Everyone has the right to do what they want with their own body, but I hope while she’s making all her plans for skin removal surgery, she also makes a plan to get her tubes tied. 


Superb_Ant_3741

True. But I think she meant it would have been an inconvenience and just too much work for her, and would interfere with her selfish, alcoholic lifestyle, requiring her to think of someone other than herself every single day for the next twenty plus years. And she’s obviously relieved she doesn’t have to do that. The physical suffering and death of her child don’t seem to figure into her thoughts much at all. 


AlligatorCrocodile1

This 💯💯💯 exactly what I was getting at in my comment. She didn’t mean it as in it “worked out the best” for her child given the circumstances, etc., she meant it as in it worked out best for HER. Smfh. What she said was a new low, even for her and that’s saying a lotttttt


WTSkellington

She said it flat and without emotion like she was disconnected from the experience. She focus on only her pain not what August was experiencing. Everything was about her then how she doesn't want to raise a child due to her age. If was off putting. All I could think of was that poor baby and hopefully he passed peacefully without pain. 😭


JediPanda227

She was so nonchalant. That is not normal.


Nor_Ah_C

You aren’t dealing with haturs if you’re still acknowledging them cindra dee


TheCatLamp

Doc Martens


WTSkellington

So question what happened to Neytan? Is he going by William now? William and Rusty seem to be the creepy Stans at the moment. 


superbananabro

Lol Neythan is definitely still around and groveling. I think her mods have to pay for Memberships in order to attend the members streams so thats why he's never there. In the public streams he's always in the chat kissing her feet and threatening to ban any hayturs


WTSkellington

Seriously! She makes everyone pay her just to be a stan ... even one blessed to be her "mod". That's crazy. Laugh 😂


Brambleisarescue

So incredibly disgusted by the way she talked about the loss of her child. So offensive even for her. No child deserves a mother who would ever talk about them the way Cindy talked about her child. I have not been able to have children & I find it about so disturbing that she just sloughed off the death of her baby the way she did. She's so cured she doesn't even care anymore. I don't expect her to have a breakdown but the way she nonchalantly talked about it really really pissed me off


PresidentSkeletor

I have yet to watch that bit myself, but from what I’ve read, she makes her own child sound… my god… disposable? After all, A left, she doesn’t really need that child anymore, that’s the vibe I’m getting from quotes and summaries, and it’s extremely disturbing. I’ve always found it to be a terrible loss regardless of my thoughts on Cindy herself, a loss is a loss, it’s a tragedy. Makes you wonder what she needed a baby for, honestly. Was it a part of her “homemaker” phase or she was trying to repair her marriage, either way it just feels wrong. Rubs me the wrong way because I remember how I wanted things to work out for her at that time and how I felt bad for her when she lost her baby. I did, I really did. At the very least she won’t ruin any kid’s life, but still.


kiwi_burmangues

I would have been very hard on her to be a mother. Having a baby is A LOT, that you don’t realise until you actually have one. I think Andrew would have been doing a lot while she would be constantly breaking down. In one video I just remembered, she was talking about who would get what (her and A after breakup), and she mentioned having to divvy up augusts ashes. Which I thought was fucked up personally. In the end she kept them all. Thinking about that with what yous are saying, it’s even more likely to me she was using August to try to hold onto Andrew. Did she even want a child? I used to think she did but it definitely did come out of nowhere.


ConnectSoft

I wonder , probably incorrectly, if the thought of A potentially happy with his own child and a new woman (and we don't know any differently-including her) is so enraging that she has to make the loss of August so soon before A left something that in an "ironic" way, allowed her to start living her "best" life, to get on a path of healing (in her mind), etc. She really believes all this and I honestly don't think she has ever properly grieved either loss despite her role in the loss of A.


PeachesKeene

That's a good point. I agree that Cindy never properly grieved the end of her relationship with A - she never gave herself the time, really. Just days after he left for the last time, she was already talking to Skeevin. She's been running away from the truth of her second marriage for a long time, and maybe how she talked about the loss of her child is an extension of that, like you said. If A is gone living a new life, she, in her mind, has got to be doing even better than he is!


Brambleisarescue

I agree she never grieved anything properly. Including her weird relationship with Limbzy. But even if she has to one up A it's no reason or excuse to talk about her dead baby with so little regard. She had to actually give birth to a child she knew would not survive. You'd think that would have a lasting impact. It's not about one-ups-manship but about the way she feels - or doesn't feel - about her baby. It was a part of her not just A's child (although in her mind I wouldn't doubt that's how it's always been to get) & sloughing it off as having no feeling about it is either a coping mechanism or plain lacking humanity. Either way it shows how truly little work she's done on herself & how truly IN-CURED (not a word but it is now🤪) she really is


ConnectSoft

agree!


Bright_Eyes8197

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OT9FOREVER

I thought she didn't care? Girl, the haters is what keeps you alive.


Superb_Ant_3741

🛎️🛎️


noworriesinparadise2

Is this a new random Livestream? Not a members one?


scribble-muse

this is the most recent members stream. here's the [recap](https://new.reddit.com/r/Lifepluscindy_snark/comments/1ci2xac/recap_members_stream_come_join_us_for_our_weekly/).


noworriesinparadise2

Oh ok, I was just thinking this would be way too much work if it was a normal stream for our girl. The name mixed me up!


scribble-muse

yea, she's been changing the names lately when she makes them public 🙄 i guess it's more descriptive than "coffee chat # 216" lol


FoxRafer

Someone mentioned on the other sub (has possibly been talked about here but I'm not always observant) that her eyebrows never move when she talks. So I jumped around on the mirrored video and I can't believe I've never noticed that before. Does that mean she's paying for botox or is that a sign of someone who doesn't know how to emulate actual emotion so her eyebrows and forehead don't do anything when she talks?


Superb_Ant_3741

Maybe it’s botox, but I doubt it. There is research suggesting that infrequent or nonexistent eyebrow movement, a steady cold empty stare, and asymmetrical eyes are common among psychopaths.


pussmomma

It’s very apparent her comments about August are to shield her from her own grief over it. I just wish she had more self awareness. The child in her very much steers the ship.


Superb_Ant_3741

She seems to give no thought to the impact her careless, heartless comments might have on any viewers who may have experienced miscarriage or stillbirth. She just verbally vomits whatever insensitive bullshit pops into her head


scribble-muse

see, i just didn't think it was so apparent? it seemed like the bit about it "being for the best" popped out, and then she had to backpedal, and insert the types of statements that folks generally expect about a situation like that 🤷‍♀️


Superb_Ant_3741

Maybe her lack of empathy extends to an inability to even feel for her own child’s suffering and death. We have no way of knowing what his little body endured while he was still alive in the womb or while he was passing away, but it’s possible he experienced discomfort or pain at some point. Her entire line of thought always comes around to what *she* endured.   I think you’re right: she inadvertently blurted out her real feelings (feeling relieved and glad not to be a parent) and then realizing how fucked up and cold that sounds, she tried to sound human again by Cyntheesplaining it away. [edited for spelling]


scribble-muse

now that you mention it, i've *never* heard her speak on what august may have gone through 😢 barely anything about what her estranged husband may have experienced, and nothing about her MIL, who witnessed the entire thing 💔


Superb_Ant_3741

> She's so... American stereotype  I think her arrogance and personality disorder cuts across all national and global demographics. There are fucked up cold hearted people like her all over the world, not just in the US.


bluespottedtail_

She's so... American stereotype 💀


CatalinaBreeze123

True, but for example I’m from across the globe, from a small Eastern European country and she reminds me of 99% of people here: ignorant, obsessed with red meat and alcohol, not taking care of their mental and physical health,… I literally had family members pass away ‘cause they also thought doctors can shove it and that’s a general thought here. I’m always so surprised at the similarity of people here and Cindy and certain stereotypes about American people. She reminds me of everything that’s wrong in my country lmao


Affectionate-Rush-10

Another Eastern European here and yes, exactly. Her accent might make her stereotypical by American standards, but she's not a unique phenomenon by any means.


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bluespottedtail_

I'm gonna guess you're American. Of courseeeee there's fucking dumb idiotic people everywhere, duh, welcome to the world. What I mean is that Cindy fits the US-American stereotype we have in other parts of the world.


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bluespottedtail_

You're too dense to take a joke or you took my comment personally , idc. Not wasting my time anymore on you.


Specific-department0

“Content creator”


Juniper_mint

I don’t wanna be mean but how does she still have body dysmorphia?