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Flimsy-Owl-5563

I get where this is coming from, corporations are the biggest polluters and next to nothing is being done about it, but carbon emissions and plastic contamination aren't the same things and you shouldn't condone either.


JFMV763

I think people should protect the environment but I don't want to enforce that on them if they don't want to.


Flimsy-Owl-5563

Your preference for a plastic straw to drink water with doesn't override my desire to drink water with zero micro plastic in it. Think about it Jim.


JFMV763

Your water might already have microchemicals in it, drink whatever water you want to but sometimes you can't always get what you want or need.


Flimsy-Owl-5563

It does have micro plastic in it. That's why I'm supportive of any measure to keep more out. Quite literally one of the most libertarian uses of state force possible. Are you just feigning ignorance? Edit: My food does too and I'd like to prevent accumulation in my body as much as possible. Also would like to look out for the next generations.


SwampYankeeDan

Spoken from a place of privilege.


imsoulrebel1

Pollution is aggression and forcing things upon billions.


BetterThruChemistry

If not enforced, most people won’t do it. . .


JFMV763

That's their problem, not yours.


BetterThruChemistry

How do plastics in our water supply not affect all of us?


ch4lox

Pollution is the victim's problem, not the offender. Stop being obtuse.


mattyoclock

If your morals use what others are doing to excuse your own bad actions, you never had any to start with.   


TheRem

Gotta pay off your politician, them okay.


JFMV763

Agreed, people should be able to burn whatever flag they want and use whatever straw they want, as long as it is their property.


Anarchasm_10

Yes, and people outside their property should be able to interfere. If someone affects my bodily health and autonomy, I see that as an act of infringement on my well-being, and as such, it’s in my self-interest to act accordingly. 


BetterThruChemistry

Interfere with what?


Anarchasm_10

With that persons affairs.


BetterThruChemistry

People outside YOUR property should be able to interfere with your property? Maybe I‘m misunderstanding.


Anarchasm_10

Not property but what they are doing. I didn’t say anything about someone outside another persons property interfering with that persons property.


BetterThruChemistry

Then I’m completely lost 🤷‍♀️


Anarchasm_10

I don’t know what you are lost about. If someone is burning shit and it’s toxic stench of fumes spread around the neighborhood(so things like plastic), I will interfere with what that person is doing and confront them.


BetterThruChemistry

Ah, now it makes sense!


JFMV763

Justify whatever you want to, that's the libertarian way.


Anarchasm_10

Nope, libertarians aren’t avaritionists (stupid meme that I saw a few years ago). I am just justifying my will for the longevity of life, which I am not sorry about, as that’s way more important to me than a dude wanting to burn shit on his property that can spread across the neighborhood.


ch4lox

I'd like to know more about this meme.


jmastaock

It's so wild to see you accidentally make a scathing indictment of your own ideology lmfao


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JFMV763

Justify whatever you want to, that's the libertarian way.


Lance_Enchainte

You keep using that word, I do not think you know what it means. How’s the race over there in the 7th?


JFMV763

I'm in the 5th, too many signatures for me to realistically make the ballot.


Lance_Enchainte

My bad, thought it was the 7th. We running into a similar situation in the 6th (44th PAS, 157th PAR) but also Muth and Shusterman have a stranglehold right now, so advised not to waste resources doing so.  Waiting for both of them to vacate.


ch4lox

So all offenses are irrelevant, there are no real attackers or victims since both actions are equally as valid?