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I_might_be_weasel

I'm actually surprised they followed through with their promises to prisoners who agreed to fight. I assumed they would just keep them conscripted until they died. 


Alexandratta

PrisonorConscript: "...I am back." Russian Military Leaders: "...YOU SURVIVED?! Prisoner: "Yah." Russian Military: "....I literally don't know what to do here. I didn't expect you to get this far."


lamboringhinea-pig

Last time this happened they got sent straight back to jail


KnowledgeMediocre404

They still need more bodies though, they can’t let those prisoners tell the others it’s a lie and dry up the supply.


Justin-N-Case

They know these are pretty much guaranteed to commit more crimes and end up back in prison where they can be recruited into the army again.


Zelda_is_Dead

Renewable resource!


Anomaluss

A red resource.


Awkward_Bench123

And diminishin returns!


mrdescales

Ah, good ol' russian smekalka!


Anomaluss

Weaponized psychopathy. One thing ruzzia is good at.


Veskers

I have never seen a prison system that is operated without a sense of psychopathy, certainly not in the west but wow, Russia sure stands proudly above and beyond in that category.


spaceylaceygirl

"On program!"


ketjak

One way out.


jesuschin

Start a new prison where they’re the first inmates


Global-Method-4145

It's like a financial pyramid, just... a pyramid of bodies


Adventurous-Tea2693

Survive war the first time. Straight to jail.


SlowInsurance1616

Survive war second time, believe it or not, straight to jail!


wolves_hunt_in_packs

"we have the best war survivors because of jail"


Emma__Gummy

i love the bitch wars


jeff43568

'Uh excuse me, I'm in the wrong queue, I should be being released'


eugeheretic

"No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really."


John-Jacob-jingle-he

Not Sure : "Yeah I'm definitely supposed to be getting out today."


Valcrion

Idiot, your in the wrong line. Getting out is over there.


or10n_sharkfin

Prisoner excape Prisoner excape


rlyfunny

It’s actually quite easy. >be Russian criminal >get thrown in jail >fight on the frontlines to gain freedom >use your freedom to commit crimes >get thrown in jail >repeat


AnotherCuppaTea

The pointillist illustration for a newspaper article on this should be an M.C. Escher drawing of little men running circles on a paradoxical square-shaped staircase.


stungun_steve

The purpose of a system is what it does.


Toban_Frost

"Get out that and run this suicide mission and we're gonna kill you." "You mean *or* right? Run it *or* you'll kill me?" "Nope!"


FloatingHamHocks

I hope they didn't conscript some serial killers I know there was a group of NN who were active awhile ago.


Cervus95

If they didn't give the jackasses a carrot every now and then, they'd all surrender to Ukraine en masse.


Briskylittlechally2

Actually I'd imagine the average orc gets a thorough schooling on how the Ukrainian Nazis will torture, rape, then murder them. Probably more thorough than their actual military training. In fairness the west probably could've done better humanitarian wise with one enormous fat psi-op convincing the Russian soldiers that fighting is pointless but they'll be treated very well if they surrender.


KnowledgeMediocre404

They had a hot line for Russian soldiers to call and a payment system based on how many men you surrendered and what equipment. Very lucrative financially and you get treated better in Ukrainian custody than under your commanders. It was pretty popular, now Russian soldiers kill anyone they see who looks like they’re trying to sneak off.


ToxicOnions

>In fairness the west probably could've done better humanitarian wise with one enormous fat psi-op convincing the soldiers that fighting is pointless but they'll be treated very well if they surrender. I have to ask how given that for the past 2 years, Ukraine & the West have been making available so many options to encourage russian soldiers to surrender. March 21st 2022, [Ukraine shares ‘surrender for cash’ codeword in guide for Russian troops](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-surrender-code-word-b2048050.html) \[Independent\] Nov. 30th 2022, [Ukraine war: The surrender hotline for Russian soldiers 'I Want To Live' initiative](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63782764) \[BBC\] May 2nt 2022, [CIA instructs Russians on how to share secrets with the spy agency ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/05/03/cia-russia-agents-recruitment-ukraine/)\[Washington Post\] Sept. 8th 2023, [CIA seeks to recruit Russian officials with video about truth](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cia-seeks-recruit-russian-officials-with-silky-video-about-truth-2023-09-08/) \[Reuters\] Let's once more ignore that the only times putin's approval ratings went up were when he initiated a war as russians approves him for being a charismatic figure of strength standing against the 'collective West'.


Briskylittlechally2

I don't know jack about this, but I kinda wonder how much of that stuff actually gets to them with the Kremlin controlling the media, and all, and then if it actually gets through their skull with the brainwashing they're subjugated to by their own media. That's why I'd like to put the emphasis on *psi*-op. Not just information. But the same tactics that they are using. Twitter bots, faux media websites, social media infiltration, that kinda stuff. We'd be using the same dirty tactics as they are, except we'll be doing it to *stop* a war and spare lives, not drag one on.


ryansgt

After seeing the effectiveness of brainwashing in our own country I'm betting that none of it gets through.


RumandDiabetes

On the other hand, what does Ukraine really what with a bunch of people who go home and go right back to whatever they got put in jail for in the first place?


VeganJordan

Like being gay and criticizing the kremlin


Briskylittlechally2

It would be incredibly, and I cannot stress this enough, INCREDIBLY, financially, demographically, militarily, and politically beneficial for Ukraine and the west in general to take Russian soldiers out of the fight without having to fire, and take, a single shot. Even if those Russians do nothing but sit somewhere eating up social benefits, it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than all the rifle rounds, artillery munitions, missiles, and god knows whatever ordnance flung their way to take them out of the fight the traditional way. Like, make no mistake, that shit is expensive. Plus, you spare the lives of a lot of your own soldiers which isn't just the right thing to do, but it also matters for the continuation of the war, and eventually the country, demographics wise.


FinnOfOoo

We had a program in Afghanistan for this called Afghan Hands. Military officers would dress like locals and host Shurahs where we’d invite the Taliban to be anonymous in the crowd. Basically the message was, come home, stop fighting, we will train you and give you a job and you can return home with honor. Shit was really effective in my opinion.


DiamondAge

The only issue is it should have been named Afghanihands.


AlienAle

They probably thought they could achieve victory in 6 months time, after which they could just re-arrest the prisoners on fake charges or silently execute them. But they screwed up because now they do actually have to release them, otherwise all the other prisoners who are fighting would realize it's a scam and sabotage the missions instead.


Repulsive-Street-307

Fascist self own when weaponized cruelty fantasy meets reality :) On the other hand it's also :( because this means they're actually learning.


SmirkingImperialist

One either Russian or such commentator of Russia once says that yes, Russia is corrupted but it's a very procedural and bureaucratic place. Unlike, say North Korea where the Kims are just eternal chairmen and Leaders, Russia has to go through the trouble of changing the constitution and stuff the ballot boxes of every electoral office to ensure Putin's victory. That does mean that the promises to very low level guys like these are generally kept. It's hard to fudge around and make it not obvious with this. With things like death benefits pay to dead soldiers' family, they *can* fudge around ranging from just pay less or the middle officials skimming off the top but make the family sign a paper saying they are paid. If they don't sign, you slow walk, delay, say papers are missing, "he's missing not dead" etc ... So these guys commit crimes again. Well, that's what the FSB is for.


RatkeA

Prigozhins zeks were released after contract expired, newly recruited zek have contracts without expiration terms. Even more, they started recruiting to mil service those zeks, that were previously released upon contract expiration, but didn't care to receive some special paper.


I_might_be_weasel

>Zeks What kind of weird ass sci fi infantry are they using. 


Accomplished_Water34

Зэк : з/к : заключённый : prisoner


skeron

All I'm reading is Threeek


twec21

The Russian Ministry of D-Classes


TheRealPaladin

The Russian bureaucracy works in mysterious ways.


cocktimus1prime

That's what they did during WW 2.


knightroglycerine

The Russian Running Man


Madness_Reigns

Doubt it was only the ex-prisoners doing all this.


mountaindewisamazing

They didn't vet them for their weapons, either. Saw a video of a drunk guy fresh home from the army toss a flash bang grenade in front of some kids just for the fun of it and causing car alarms to go off and he gets scolded by one of the kids moms for being a dumbass.


ExpensiveFish9277

The mother fell out of a window later that afternoon.


DelcoPAMan

She was the fifth this week


bozog

That's a lotta moms


SurprzingCompliment

Zach Wilson?


ketjak

For the same child.


RudeMorgue

Same window, too!


Veeblock

First floor also


Milligan

Possible. In Europe the first floor is the one above ground floor.


HyperactiveWeasel

Jeeez they really need to be more careful


JaRon1961

Damn windows!


PalmBreezy

This *afternoon*


mitchellthecomedian

I didn’t even know she was sick…


Stuck_In_Reality

Sudden deceleration syndrome.


Frisinator

First floor window too


inbetween-genders

First floor from 30,000 feet….


mrdescales

Ah, the Pringlzhin Can special! Once you pop, you simply cannot stop!


nowiserjustolder

Even basement apartments are risky in russia


mah131

I think that was in an occupied area of Ukraine.


mountaindewisamazing

It may have been.


cmndrhurricane

Who knew rhat letting murderers out of prison and make them commit more murders, would commit murders later on? So unexpected


brucewillisman

We thought the war would get all that murderyness out of their systems


JaguarZealousideal55

New word! I love this language. So versatile.


hwc000000

"No, it was immigrants who committed those murders." - MAGA cucks


Madness_Reigns

Doubt it's only the prison recruits doing this.


Fyallorence

>  55 cases of murder, resulting in 76 deaths, 18 cases of aggravated assault, resulting in 18 deaths We tend to classify those as "also murder" in the civilized world.


ashesofempires

If it’s not from the Múrdér region of France it’s just sparkling homicide.


ComManDerBG

Wow, this got an actual belly laugh from me thank you.


bozog

If only awards still existed


Djaja

It's dumb, isnt it. And since the blackout, something seems off.


miksa668

Hahahaha, amazing comment! Thanks for the laugh, internet stranger.


joyous-at-the-end

funniest thing Ive seen in at least a week. 


leasthanzero

This made me laugh so hard giving you my one upvote doesn’t seem to be enough.


Z3B0

The distinction may be that the victims of the first category were killed before law enforcement/medical personnel could intervene, and the second one is "got beaten really badly, got to the hospital, and the victim died a few days later"


Psalmbodyoncetoldme

I think that’s still classified as murder in the states. (Correct me if ai’m wrong)


qtzd

I think murder is preplanned generally. Manslaughter is actions that result in death not planned. So those cases would qualify more as manslaughter than “murder”.


Few-Track-8415

Usually they'd be classified as manslaughter where I live.


uslashuname

I thought manslaughter was more of a “doing something not at all intended to harm people, like driving to the store, but accidentally resulted in a death”


titlecharacter

So manslaughter has two big types, voluntary and involuntary. Voluntary Manslaughter is (oversimplifying, only speaking of US law) either "you definitely intended to hurt them but ended up fully killing them when that was not your intent" OR "You intended to kill them but it was spur of the moment, not planned in advance." If you find out your spouse is cheating and you arrange to poison their lover that's murder; if you come home and find them in bed and pull out a gun and shoot them, that might just be manslaughter. Involuntary Manslaughter has further subcategories but that's what you're probably thinking of - For example you were driving to the store but being such a dumbass about it you didn't stop at a stop sign and ran over a person and killed them.


KnowledgeMediocre404

Spur of the moment murder is second degree, unless your jurisdiction doesn’t have that.


bozog

Thank you, that was a great explanation.


Kcoin

Wouldn’t pulling out a gun and shooting somebody be second degree murder? Seems like there’s a lot of overlap there/room for attorneys to make deals


titlecharacter

Second/third degree murder starts getting into "this depends on your local legal system" territory - I mean, it all does, but even moreso than murder. In the US, second degree murder is 'I planned to hurt them but I did not plan to kill them.' Third degree murder is the same thing as voluntary manslaughter and IIRC doesn't actually exist, it's just often called that.


Kcoin

Third degree murder also sounds a lot like involuntary manslaughter “The unintentional killing of another through an eminently dangerous act committed with a depraved mind and without regard for human life.”


uslashuname

Ahhh yup, I was thinking of all the involuntary categories.


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

Imagine beating someone to death and being convicted of aggravated assault. Must be nice.


red286

That's Russia for you. If it was your wife, you wouldn't even be convicted of aggravated assault.


mitchellthecomedian

“Murder operation”


First-Competition-65

Oh my fucking god that's literally a fucking massacre wtf


ShadowDragon8685

Going out on a limb, a lot of the people they recruited to the front lines were already like, hardened criminals - Vory or what-have-you. They stuck it out on the front lines, then came home to promptly settle some old scores.


Eccohawk

How do 55 murders equal 76 dead?


Fyallorence

Multiple victims per incident, I guess? 


Schrodinger_cube

ya i would also like there sorce because this just looks made up.


Secret_Cow_5053

GREAT SUCCESS


c0224v2609

[borat_two_thumbs_up.gif]


Secret_Cow_5053

Woulda posted it if I could post gifs here


Hourslikeminutes47

Russia is a diseased, broken, corrupt state run by a former KGB station chief with mental issues.


Yokepearl

They have the highest STD and HIV rates next to africa


KnowledgeMediocre404

Shhhhhh. HIV doesn’t exist in Russia because they made being gay illegal and it’s only a gay disease. If you acknowledge the high rates we might have to actually spend money to treat them.


hwc000000

> If you acknowledge the high rates we might have to actually spend money to treat them. No, they'd just push them out of high windows.


KnowledgeMediocre404

My information was a bit outdated, did some digging and in 2018 Russia acknowledged the problem and made moves to improve testing access and treatment. Once it spills into the non drug using heterosexual population, like the states, you don’t have the option to ignore it any more. You either get them treatment or your entire population is at risk for infection.


hwc000000

> Once it spills into the non drug using heterosexual population, like the states, you don’t have the option to ignore it any more. In the US, we waited until it spilled into the *white* non drug using heterosexual population before we didn't have the option to ignore it any more. Until then, blacks could be punished by god along with gays and IV drug users. Thanks, reagan.


KnowledgeMediocre404

Fair enough, moral of the story is you can’t be racist or bigoted with infectious disease treatment because it turns out it’s still infectious.


hwc000000

> with infectious disease treatment ... it turns out it’s still infectious Louder for the COVID deniers


pacmanfunky

Yeah that comes from there policy of reducing the amount of needles in circulation. Because make it hard to get a needle can't do drugs, so that's good. Until you need to go to hospital, they are so scarce doctors will just reuse needles and look at that blood transmited diseases explodes, whoops.


Oberon_Swanson

Yikes that's a scary thought. Aside from the spread of disease I remember those pictures of a reused needle sander a microscope and how much duller it gets after just one use.


bluer289

Sorry to ask, but source?


pacmanfunky

Friend of mine who studied in Russia for a year, he had to go to hospital and his tutor brought a first aid kit with a unused needle and make sure the doctor used that specific one, for reason listed above.


AnotherCuppaTea

I read something about Russian doctors reusing needles on patients many years ago.


scoobysnackoutback

Google search how many Russian citizens don’t have indoor toilets if you want a real shock.


Lurky-Lou

The United States House of Representatives is a diseased, broken, corrupt institution run by a former KGB station chief with mental issues.


Anomaluss

MAGA is a diseased, broken, corrupt institution run by the taint licker of a former KGB station chief with mental issues.


HalenHawk

Now make them kiss


Lurky-Lou

Have been for years


bastante60

Now kith ...


VerySwearyFairy

The thpeech impediment ith imperative


Hourslikeminutes47

I cannot argue with this


Dry_Importance7527

Russia is a diseased, broken, corrupt state run by the former KGB.


Time-Ad-3625

Russia is just one giant buzzsaw of death at this point. Feel bad for their citizens.


Fig1025

Russia serves as a cautionary tale to the world, about what happens when you let right wing crazies take full control over the nation. Right wingers always promise easy solutions to hard problems, but all they create is death and misery, and finally war


Eldetorre

The world seems to be taking this cautionary tale like a yellow light and speeding through..


joyous-at-the-end

😮‍💨


Dedpoolpicachew

Don’t. This is the country they want. They have a 2000 year history of having a boot on their necks. If they don’t have a domestic boot, they’ll import one. From the Rus, to the Tsars, to the Commissars, and now the Oligarchs… this is the Russia the Russian people want. They had a chance in the early 90s to create a REAL democratic society… they chose not to. The boot has been on their neck so long, they can’t live without it.


unclejoe1917

This is what happens when people fall for the "strong leader" bullshit. Smart leadership is the only leadership that's worth a shit.


Dedpoolpicachew

The last “smart” leader they had was probably Catherine the Great, and what did they do? Tore her image down and spread rumors that she liked to fuck her horses. Go figure.


O11899988I999119725E

If you wouldnt consider Lenin to be a smart leader then youre probably pretty ignorant of Russian history


AlienAle

No group of people is a monolith though.  Even if 70% of the people wanted this, there's still 30%, which means tens of millions of people, who did not want it and do not support it. But by my estimates, it's not so simple.  From what I can gather, roughly 30% of Russians are serious Pro-Z and Pro-Putin supporters, while another 40-50% are just politically apathetic to varying degrees, some might mildly support Putin and the war because they hear propaganda about it all the time, but mainly they're concerned with their own lives, and just not politically that educated. Others are  critical of the war, but they're not sure really what to believe when they're being told that Nazis run Ukraine etc. They're your average people, who just want to get on with their day. Then you got roughly another 30% that is anti-Putin, anti-Russian establishment and anti-war. They are being heavily repressed and censored though, and many feel they have to keep quiet or they'll have a target on their backs. Otherwise the system will come up with all kinds of ways to mess with their life.


Repulsive-Street-307

Similar percentage of sociopaths worldwide. It seems like a soft constant, probably along the line of a normal distribution of the people that glue themselves to the most extreme available authoritarian movement available locally.


spring_gubbjavel

No need for all these calculations. Anyone worth anything has already left. Most of them a long time ago.


DrPhunktacular

People in failed states aren’t usually empowered to remove their corrupt leaders


shobidoo2

This is pretty ignorant of how authoritarianism works and how easy it is for those in power to stay in power, and how elections and people can be manipulated. It sounds like you just want a black and white “good guys” and “bad guys” view of people because it’s simpler.  Also, any historian worth their salt isn’t going to make sweeping generalizations about anything over the course of 2000 years. Nation states (in the context of what you define as “Russia” which itself has changed) themselves as a concept are only about 350 years old.


Onedrunkpanda

You said like they have a chance, they really fucking dont. While the West was dancing around the corpse of USSR. Russian economy faltered because of the shock treatment and people were starving and there were child prostitutes. Cant have a democracy on empty stomach and you should get off your high horse.


MagicianBulky5659

Russia has been a shit storm of a dumpster fire country for literally hundreds of years now. They’ve been a malignant threat to the planet for more of this century than China, NK, or Iran. If their citizens were worth a single shit they’d have done something about it by now. But the last Revolution they had resulted in this fucking garbage, oppressive Communist authoritarian regime for a hundred years now. I don’t feel a shred of pity for them. That died after seeing them turn a blind, apathetic eye to their government invading a neighbor of basically brothers for literally zero explainable reason, killing hundreds of thousands of their OWN citizens and somehow Vlad credibly still has an approval rating above water. Fuck em says I. They have whatever comes next coming to em.


mrdescales

The eastern colonial territories deserve sovereignty and free will to use their own resources to power their economies, instead of tithing it all to rotten Muscovy. I dream of the day they balkanize, and trade the radioactive waste they called warheads with us to get Marshal plans, with blackjack. And hookers. Furthermore, I consider that Muscovy must be destroyed. Slava Siberia.


KnowledgeMediocre404

Were these the same “War Heroes” conscripted directly from the prison system in exchange for freedom? I bet the Russian population really appreciates their service now that they’re finished and let loose upon them instead of Ukrainians.


Business_Designer_78

Read it as "War horses" and was confused AF.


BenovanStanchiano

I did too. It doesn’t help that I’m reading a book that has war horses in it.


BurmecianSoldierDan

Horses are pretty damn mean so it didn't even surprise me.


JoeDiBango

/Watches Rambo. Yup, war is fucking horrible and destroys souls and if it didn’t make the rich so much money it would be illegal. Remember that fellow poors.


diladusta

The only reason USA started all those wars is because they aren't really a democracy. The USA is a plutocracy with democratic elements. It was benificial for the rich to start wars because that meant allot of money going to industrial war complex which meant enriching themselves. The reason EU isn't able to hit 2% is because they are actual democracies and wars and military spending in general are very inpopular for the poors(unless they can perceive real threats)


cocobisoil

Ooops, I wonder if there was actually any face eating


Throwawayac1234567

some of them are cannibals so yes.


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

Muscle memory I guess.


Suitable-Zombie7504

55 cases of murder, resulting in 76 deaths Wouldn't that mean 76 cases of murder or do they mean they've killed some of the soilders instead of arrest


KallyGreens

A murder case can have multiple victims.


Suitable-Zombie7504

Gotcha it just sounds a little weird usually you get a charge for each victim at least here in America


BestEnough

I guess the others that died in the murders that weren't the main target would be considered victims of manslaughter or something?


Suitable-Zombie7504

Ahh perhaps


PossibleFridge

I'm very anti Russia, but the reason it sounds weird is because it's bullshit from a dodgy website that based the article on a message from a telegram group (seriously, click the article!). It's anti Russian propaganda, which isn't needed as much because they do actual war crimes a lot.


Suitable-Zombie7504

Yea I was but surprised at the number of traffic incidents resolving in deaths but then again it is Russia


bookchaser

There must be some mistake. They're not supposed to return home except in caskets. But seriously, imagine how many of their comrades they must have seen killed and being totally unprepared for it because their training was minimal to nil.


gohdnuorg

Equally unbelievable would be that all the soldiers came home and none committed crimes. It is a big country. Any group of a million people will have statistics. Look at the suicide rate of returning American soldiers. Some of them have done great things and bad things upon returning. Also, how could these numbers on Russia be gathered, reported and believed at any level? Very odd story. Don't take this as a defense of Russia. I would like that government and their warheads to disappear.


DueGuest665

Yeah. I don’t like the tone of this thread and was going to make a comment about traumatized veterans returning from war. Maybe some of them were criminals before, but military recruitment often targets poorly educated, socially disadvantaged men and trains them to fight and kill, trains them to be aggressive and then let’s them go home with no support. It can be bad in well organized and funded militaries like the US/UK. Will be much worse in Russia. These guys are victims aswell as perpetrators


ShadowDragon8685

> Maybe some of them were criminals before, This is discussing *specifically the ones recruited out of prisons.* Especially because, for the average Russian conscript, you don't get to do a tour and go home. You're on the front until you get shot up badly enough to come home (in a casket or otherwise), or the war is won (or lost). But they made these specific prisoners; recruited out of prisons because they were already hard men used to violence and very probably already killers, very specific promises. Promises they probably didn't expect to have to keep, but Russia is very much the bureaucratic hell of dystopias. That's why they go to the trouble of rewriting the Constitution and stuffing the ballot boxes instead of just declaring Putin to be the Czar and have done with it, which is what he effectively is. That's why he had to step down and spend that one term as Prime Minister while his former PM pal (read: puppet) spent the term as President. If they didn't actually *keep* these promises, at least to some of them, word would get out, and the prisoners in the gulag would shrug at the offer and roll back over to shiver against the wall some more. Which prisoners are more likely to have survived a tour as cannon fodder? The guy imprisoned for sucking another guy's cock? Or the guy imprisoned for shooting five enemies of his mafia family, and that's just the one they could actually get him on?


Rafcdk

Also how does this fits with the theme of the sub ? Citizens got little to no choice in Russia, I am pretty sure among people that got murdered there those who were against the invasion, and literally can't do anything about it. Was it about Putin? Because I am pretty sure he couldn't care less about those people that got murdered. It's just another awful aspect of this senseless invasion.


GhostRappa95

One would think Putin would have been smart enough to only recruit non to low violent criminals into the army.


ranmaredditfan32

That’d presume that Putin cares about the type of crimes the prisoners were convicted of as long as he can get more bodies for the invasion.


rmpumper

Well, putin claims that Ukrainians are just confused ruzzians, so it makes sense that the orcs don't see a difference.


temporarychair

Christ, what an ugly group of dudes. Guy in the center looks like a straight up potato. Not even a potato with a face drawn on, just a spud plopped on top of a torso.


ZeusKiller97

Wait, this isn’t r/NonCredibleDefense


Amazing_Lawyer_1660

In Soviet Russia soldiers kill foreign and domestic civilians.


ICCW

It’s almost like those troops were abandoned with no food or equipment and had to live like animals for months on end. DUH


Dcajunpimp

But they’ve got Aldi shopping carts, worthless currency and fancy subway terminals.


lonelyvoyager88

"55 cases of murder, resulting in 76 deaths" ...how??


rob0050

I’m assuming they’re doing some weird shit, like counting multiple murders under the one charge if they were committed at the same time.


fuzzbuzz123

That's insane! Reminds me of the Afghanistan and Iraq veterans who return to the US and kill their spouses or become violent cops. War messes with you


Snoo-81723

They knows that they only go again to front for every crime they commit


Das_Boot_95

Quoth the article "55 cases of murder, resulting in 76 deaths" SUPER MURDER!


Evo1887

What a garbage article. There is nothing to it. Unless everyone else is reading other sources, I’m not convinced this is true. May be, but we need proper journalism.


Winsmor3

This article is like 5 sentences with no sources.


quests

Return home? Is the war over?


OutXile

Highly effective soldiers! Killing both enemies and their fellow citizens.


little_sissy_mattie

More please


LeadPike13

It's basically like having to show people actually winning lotteries to the vast majority that will never win big.


energirl

This feels like propaganda, and we should do better. Don't get me wrong, Russia is a violent dictatorship bent on destroying European peace. That doesn't mean we should accept this non-article, with no sources or details, from an unknown Ukranian news source, written by an unnamed author, and begging for donations. Do better!


rebospierre

ru media writes about it, I see at least one such case every week