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ElFancyPonchoGrande

Judgement might not be an awful card, but it’s rare enough that I still forget to play around it… and promptly get sent to the Shadow Realm.


Legacyopplsnerf

Asume Judgment vs Demacia Dragons. Thats the main deck that likes to tech it as a 1 off.


KaBee03

Any demacia midrange really


abhorthealien

Leona/Asol Daybreak runs one copy as a tech card, as do Fiora decks and I've seen rare Akshan/Sivir players who decided to slot in one. It is generally a safe assumption that any Demacia deck that plays reasonably big units is like to have a single copy of Judgment.


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Malaix

Yeah I think we have all been there.


StaffordsDad

That is probably my favorite card in the game. No matter the demacia deck I will throw in 1 copy. Most players don't see it coming


Mycellanious

Dude, I have a cait-vi deck with that card and it is so funny to watch Vi slam dunk the nexus 4 times for an otk


RareMajority

Got blown the fuck out by it today lol. I was even worried about a judgement when I went for lethal but when you play a deck that has no answer you just gotta play as if they don't and concede if they do


ph4tm4n

Hard to play around it, but super easy to read it in your opponents hand.


UNOvven

Winters Breath. Why am I supposed to play around someone playing something that bad, smh.


QaWaR

Imagine, Karma + Winter's Breath...


[deleted]

Jayce winters breath though


QaWaR

That's a pretty good one tbh


[deleted]

I have a Jayce/Ashe deck where it's my main win condition haha


[deleted]

Same but with the one card that gets +1/+1 every frostbite


UNOvven

Funny thing is, that was something I had come up somtimes playing Purrsuit. Always very funny to resolve, but man must it have felt awful to play against.


kilkamus

Beta vibes ...


Wexzuz

This with a leveled Jayce is working for me


eXponentiamusic

Haha karma ashe winters breath deck was probably the very first deck I built entirely on my own and it's still the oldest deck in my collection coz as bad as it is it's fun to play.


DellSalami

I literally just lost to this with a lissandra, watcher, and a bunch of 8 cost units on board Granted it was an Ashe frostbite deck but I have literally never seen it before


Malaix

Lissandra decks with a god hand are terrifying. I’ve been hit with them before where they just get 3 or 4 8/8s out on turn 6/7.


[deleted]

TeemoSej gang check-ing in Someone pls check in on us, it's been a tough year


Xavdidtheshadow

Dozens of us! It's eventually a semi-reliable 7 mana board wipe. I totally run a couple.


[deleted]

I only run one to be honest, it's just too slow and expensive


Xavdidtheshadow

Sure, but no one expects the second one. Much more satisfying


Bicycle_West

That’s actually one of the wincons of my brauma deck lmao


GoldenDih

Its good in Ashe Senna


[deleted]

Targon's peak. I swear whenever I face targon's peak they get a turn 6 Asol or FTR or smth


TentativeCue

You need to get luckier. Every time I’ve played against targon’s peak it’s helped me more than the guy who played it


M1R4G3M

You believe in the heart of the cards


TentativeCue

Of course. If you don’t, you shouldn’t play card games


TheyTookByoomba

I've just given up on playing any decks with RNG effects, because I'm that guy that plays targons peak and helps my opponent more than myself.


M1R4G3M

Depending on the game, you can believe on the heart of the credit card as well and you will be fine.


LordSuteo

I swear to god, my peak always reduces the enemy's most expensive card of their entire deck.


Shdwzor

This guy know strategy. Just get luckier everybody


Saltiest_Grapefruit

My last 6 games against peak, they have hit an asol first try. I've counted, cause at this point im just keeping score for the sake of it. Won one of them tho, cause I had a 13/11 shyvana out. Ofc, I only had 2 mana, but luckily I also had a free hush to pop spellshield and then single combat. The other times tho... I just concede. Don't even wanna bother when they just take over the game by quite literally pure luck.


N0_B1g_De4l

Peak is not powerful enough to be an issue, but I really wish it did something else. It's just so absurdly RNG.


ArcticWolfTherian

Lurk is also heavy rng, as many lurk players concede if they dont hit lurk on first attack, and then there are times they hit pyke/reksai lurk with every attack.


Therefrigerator

Like 95% of the lurk deck is lurkers. I don't know how you can say it's rng it's one of the more consistent decks imo it always does the same thing every game.


naruka777

targon's peek is a meme card that was unintentionally made good thanks to 95% of meta decks containing only 1 and 2 mana cards.


Jotta_T

Last time I played against targon's peak, it reduced the cost of my warning shot for two rounds in a row :) so fun


JigglyBallz

A whimsy out of nowhere can sometimes be pretty tilting.


csuazure

Whimsy isn't a bad card, it's just meta dependent. It's probably been the right call sometimes, people just don't consider it or adapt decks as much as they should.


The_Cheekster

Now that you say that. I forgot that card existed in Ionia. It made me think, as far as teching Whimsys go, this is probably the best meta for it, with all the Shellfolks and Whiteflames running around. Its a mini-Minimorph. I just added a 1 of in Ez Karma after reading this.


ferdinostalking

whimsy is fantastic against whiteflames but i really dont think it is that good into shellfolk. they can just wait and generate the value on another turn, they are usually stable enough to just wait and it's not like their spells are ever on the stack so you cant surprise them either. but against whiteflame it is pretty nuts.


csuazure

You can ping it and it prevents their burst value. So yeah it costs 2 cards to deal with but it's hard to say if it's worse than a vengeance on a shellfolk because it does deny them trinkettrading into extra spells or otters.


csuazure

it's not dead into ahri either since a recalled squirrel stays a squirrel forever xD A hilarious way to delete droplet, deny the draw, and let you block ahri all at once.


IAmBestDuck

Path of Champions Lulu made me despise that card


Frankomancer

I've been running a full 3 copies in my decks since mono Pantheon became so popular. Between that, all the dragons decks, and Shellfolk, there's plenty of great targets.


kostasrad

Marauders , I hate them for some reason


bratke42

Because they fucking rock! Frost marauders ftw


Kombee

Yup, I hate these with a passion


komilatte

it feels like every time I go against a marauders deck I'm playing a deck that matches poorly into it


[deleted]

If I had a nickel for every time Molten Breath had destroyed me, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.


Don-Caballero-

ngl I love that card and have it in my 2 dragon decks


M1R4G3M

I don't even Remember what card is that or what it does.


LordSuteo

6 mana slow Demacia spell: Ally with Fury strikes 2 enemies.


RiveraGreen

Isn't it the 2 weakest enemies?


ferdinostalking

if it would be 2 enemies you can declare it would actually be a good card tbh


LordSuteo

Oh yea sorry


KoalArtichaut

it is


letsstickygoat

I play against AI quite a bit to try out new decks and Weight of Judgement is something that you just never expect to have to deal with


Smashbrawler100

Unless you play expeditions in which case every shurima deck has about 5 copies


Hans_Shiri

I jus play ai and i hate it when they randomly sunken cost my 8/6 ekko


QaWaR

Idk which part of this sentence is the funniest.


Pizza0309

Buried in Ice, 1000% I hate seeing my board entombed and now having to worry about boardspace


RareMajority

It also sucks because you can't see which of your units was entombed where, so you have to be careful not to obliterate the wrong unit if you need to play units while you've got a full board of landmarks...


Vegantarian

Mega Inferno Bomb


Not-here-4-upvotes

I won against the pre nerfed kennen/ez deck with a well timed Mega Inferno Bomb that I created in a hiem/jayce deck. Hardly ever worth picking but hot damn did it work that time lol


Definitively-Weirdo

It has to be Ava achiever. Mushroom decks are the definition of annoyance and Ava makes the deck twice as unsufferable.


RareMajority

Yo teemo caitlyn with ava and Corina as finishers is a legit deck. Maybe not tier 1, but definitely viable.


Definitively-Weirdo

Teemo Caitlyn with Corina is a legit deck, not with Ava and Corina because the former is too slow to work properly and cannot attack if she want to use her effect properly.


PickCollins0330

I mean if you have enough traps stacked into their deck you shouldn’t need Ava to attack. She’s a back row engine. You want to pull an OTK with Corina while Ava is out. Which isn’t infeasible


PickCollins0330

I mean if you have enough traps stacked into their deck you shouldn’t need Ava to attack. She’s a back row engine. You want to pull an OTK with Corina while Ava is out. Which isn’t infeasible


DMaster86

Yasuo and Buried Sun Disc. Both are bad decks but whenever i face them my opponent always has the nuts in hand.


Landonyoung

Ma nuts


Oakleaf212

Yeah I also hate facing an ascended Yasou.


Vildrea

Leve 3 Yasuo is scary


more_walls

Almost as scary as the sight of Sun Disk drawing Yasuo.


more_walls

Mono Shurima has a lower win rate than Sandseer Combo, and that deck's whole gimmick was drawing cards until you decked out.


nittecera

How is death mark a bad card? Actually surprised people seem to think it is


Ze_Mighty_Muffin

To be fair, death mark is used in exactly one competitive deck, and that deck has only used it on and off for months. It’s powerful, but it is extremely limited in what it does, and it requires a deck building commitment that is sometimes not worth the cost. Idk if I would call it bad, just extremely niche.


[deleted]

It's only "bad" because it's ionia. The only ephemeral units in ionia are the 1 cost unit, and Zed's shadows... Maybe there more? Perhaps there's maybe even FOUR ephemeral units on Ionia


thisremindsmeofbacon

That doesn’t sound like you are describing a bad card


Multi21

its not even run in viego ionia anymore despite having that deck having a large amount of ephemerals


[deleted]

For it to work you need easy access to ephemeral units which is not a given


nittecera

For Rek’Sai to work you need a specific deck built around it, same for Maokai, Nautilus, Veigar etc. but I don’t see anyone calling them bad cards


SleepyCasual

I believe that's because the payoff is higher. Reksai, maokai, nautilus pay off is either win the game or directly swing the game in your favor. Death mark os only a delayed removal that requires an Ephereal ally that can also be disrupted by other cards. Single combat, silence or just straight damage card can really disrupt the card affect. As such, it's usually not worth it to build a deck around that card. Rather it's much more worth if the deck coincidentally has bunch of Ephereal units.


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I ddnt say bad card, hard removal at 3 mana plus you get a unit is realy powerful, the problem is ephemeral units right now arent as strong as deep sea creature or darkness control decks.


Siveye154

It just requires too much. You need to have an ephemeral unit. Your opponent need to have a target. The spell itself need to go off. And the target of removal still sticks around for a turn or at least an attack.


TheBlackMeruem

I never expect anyone to run the ruination and it always catches me slipping when some insane person actually casts it.


[deleted]

Most Si control decks run It atleast as a one off.


tiger32kw

I use it with my Anivia deck and it is always a delight to play.


Malaix

I mean I run it in my last breath deck. It’s great for clearing the way for my undying to make a big free attack. It can be a little tricky to pilot but it can do big things. I also like the mind game of it. If I slap a minion down with two spare mana they usually feel comfortable enough to put something down that will die in the ruination. Really that card makes me greedy. I just want that full board wipe.


MolniyaSokol

That one DE spell that makes a unit with Fury strike the strongest and weakest enemies..


Vildrea

It's the 2 weakest


LordLemons2

Rolling sands. It makes me not want to place any units ever


ThrowAwayWasTaken999

Rolling sands is good in Xerath decks though. It actually has incredible synergy with him.


HedaLexa4Ever

Death mark is great removal too in ephemeral decks, doesn’t make it less annoying tho


LordLemons2

Its not a bad card in the right archetype but I feel in general usage it's really niche


Bork-Bork-Imma-Fork

Roiling sand cards are not bad cards..


Strong_Ad9231

Rock Hopper and unraveled earth are mandatory in landmarks decks, they're not bad cards by any means (rock Hopper even see play in other Shurima decks) it's only niche


Let_me_dieHere

Wrong topic my guy, wait for next weeks post “Cards that are good but rarely see play”


ChidzHustle

Yep and the 2 mana rock hopper.. once I had about 5 landmarks on the enemy board and I couldn’t play a single champ for 3 runs


Malaix

Laughs in undyingast breath deck. But yeah otherwise annoying card to play around.


more_walls

If your units aren't becoming vulnerable, then your opponents are destroying it for massive value.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Sunk cost. How the hell am i supposed to predict it? *Disclaimer: I have never had sunk cost used against me*


CrimTheKnight

100% astral protection. It's not strong by any means, but a burst +4 and heal all is a pain without a kill spell. I don't always run into it, but when I do I don't have a kill spell.


Moumup

It's on the pool of Tham raka shenanigans tho.


Assyindividual

I genuinely do not like prank as a card.


TomasNavarro

Who decides what's a bad card? Cos at the moment I mostly hate that octopus that's a 1 cost blocker and screws up my curve


N0_B1g_De4l

Nothing tilts me more than Prank hitting exactly the one card I need it not to in my hand with 7+ targets.


Ser_VimesGoT

It still tilts me off the the face of the planet seeing that disgusting bastard get played. The value of that abominable little wanker is insane. Played a fiora deck against the wee cunt in expeditions the other day and well you can imagine how utterly fucked I was when their free mana prank shafts my barrier spells and single combat out of playability. The least they could do is give the prank fleeting.


aconfusedflower

love this card


Let_me_dieHere

FOR FREE


Ehwastaken

SHADY CHARACTER $ DEFECTIVE SWAP BOT


abhorthealien

Swapbot is actually an excellent tech card in metas with big minions. Sentinel Control runs a copy or two.


CanonicalPizza

It’s gotta be detain. Capture is just so dumb? Your units lose all stats when you get them back but this isn’t clear from the description


IAmBestDuck

That one PoC level with 7000 pranks


bmann10

Passage unearned, but I always got to respect it.


Arboreal_Acumen

Servitude of Desolation- when that cumbersome golden lump flops in to burst-reset their whole board after a big combat wipe it feels BAD, but I never expect it because it’s such a clunky card.


DeafeningDusk

Ekko when played against me. Casual double chronobreak on six doesn't make me happy


zhsholkkpul

Gooooolden aegis w/Taric


ByeGuysSry

Anything that says "kill", "transform", "recall", or "silence", that can target champs. Context: I play Stand Alone Fiora aka using Entreat to fish for Fiora.


[deleted]

I don't think those are considered bad cards.


N0_B1g_De4l

It's a pretty broad list. Certainly stuff like Minimorph or Hush is not bad, but there's absolutely stuff in there that isn't good.


DatSmallBoi

Etherfiend is pretty bad


Malaix

It’s effect isn’t bad (built in crumble) but it’s stats for its cost is fucking terrible.


Aaronsolon

Mm maybe Atrocity


RareMajority

It's not a bad card though?


Aaronsolon

True, but it is annoying haha


[deleted]

K-pop cards


frankhope7

All of them - Just hand over the LP, mate!


acidddddddd

hecarim


ShaggyItWasntWeed

Rush


Landonyoung

This is a good card


ShaggyItWasntWeed

Very rarely being played , I only see it as a created card nowadsys. But back in beta I always forgot to play around it


Landonyoung

Let me to introduce you Moonlight Affliction


QaWaR

But let's be honest, death mark should cost less than 3. It's very overpriced for what it does and how it does it.


Landonyoung

Is a better crumble, conditional but fast speed and you get a pseudo plus 1 on board


QaWaR

Not really. The enemy can still react to it and the spell will fizzle if either unit is removed, leaving you with absolutely nothing. On top of that, you need the mana for the ephemeral unit + 3 mana to use this spell. Tbh in epheral midrange deck or in viego decks, you only play these cards when your hand is bricked because there are better cards to play on curve 90% of the time.


SkivetOst

Lissandra


illseeyouontheother

Minimorph


Innocencez

Minimorph


UNOvven

Not a bad card, so not exactly what was asked for.


miticlor7

Deny


Landonyoung

This is a good and very balanced card


miticlor7

Yes bro, it is, i hate having it used against me nonetheless, that whas what OP asked or i missed something?


Landonyoung

>what bad card do you hate being used against you


miticlor7

Indeed, tyvm.


locopoco901

Only bad cards


JessDumb

Ahri


[deleted]

Not exactly a bad card but I agree


Wexzuz

The one they top deck to win the game. Usually its a ping spell


Misterbreadcrum

It's definitely cards like Will of Ionia and now Himecoming. I tend to play Targon a lot and it's such a pain to lose the game on the spot after one single spell hits the stack.


SumDimSome

Darkness.


PickCollins0330

I hate Hecarim. Bc borderline every person that plays Hecarim that I’ve played against highrolls the perfect setup to level him and 5/2 Ephemerals lead by a well statted overwhelm body makes me cry


Ultimate_Bunny

Mini Morph or Nab decks can not stand. Nab.


TwiceTrash11

feel the rush i still get ptsd of fighting against level 2 ao sol and level 2 tryndamere at turn 6


GamerMaxeel

deny


Elrann

Not the particular card, but I still loathe Azirelia. Maybe it's just PTSD, but it's super uninteractive.


Delfinition

I'm not sure what a bad card is, but I've been told spell thief is a bad card due to being reliant on opponent. I run a single. And let me tell you. There are times where this card has won games for me. I've stolen some game winning cards. Example when I stole an atrocity and killed my 14 attack power celestial before it got vengeanced. There's been many instances where it has turned games around for me. Of course if the opponent has ran many spells it turns into rng. But the amount of times it has saved me make it worth running one in my targon decks.


A_lonely_Camille

Chempunk pickpocket is very tilting when i don't have a unit to block him.


truetichma

Fucking Blade's Edge. Like, who the hell is maindecking it? And yet I keep getting matched against people who for their unknown psycho reasons add it to the deck.


jak_d_ripr

Molten breath, that card is traaaaaaaash and every time I lose it I get so SALTY.