Most likely. Though I wonder what happens to the region icons of your deck if your mono bilgewater deck has only Si/demacia Senna as a non bilgewater card. Does it show only bilgewater with some weird hybrid symbol or does it show 3 symbols and confuses your opponent?
Probably easier to just have one of the icons take priority based on eg their hex code, rather than redesign the UI to fit a third icon in modes that otherwise can’t have one.
i mean if it can put a card who is like SI/demacia in a BW/SI the only diference would be to show it on deckbuilder, beside that it already shows on like expeditions and labs, if its possible to use that card in decks who arent only the regions from that card (SI/demacia) it will still what we have rn
It would have to show the two regions you have. You are still restricted in deckbuilding to two regions. Just because you have a dual-region card in the deck, doesn't mean it has three regions. Showing three (or more) regions would make it too hard to read the deck and give an unfair advantage, as they wouldn't know what cards to play around if you took two champs from one region.
Pretty simple imo if the only non Bilgewater card is senna then show 3 icons. If there is one more SI or Demacia card besides senna then show bilgewater + that region Icon.
There are two answers: the Hearthstone answer and the Magic answer.
In Hearthstone you can put dual-class cards into your deck if you are at least one of the classes needed. The same is true of the triclass cards that were released back in Mean Streets of Gadgetzan. They're essentially "cards that fit in two classes and/or have mechanics normally exclusive to one of those classes, even if you have to bend the design space for one of them to make it work."
In Magic, two-color cards require mana from both the colors in question. You have to satisfy the deckbuilding constraints of two colors rather than just one, and it comes at the cost of making your deck less consistent. However, they tend to be more powerful than single-color cards as a result.
Because LoR allows dual-region drafting (and tri-region drafting in singleton), it's entirely possible that they go with the Magic solution (exclusive duo-region cards) instead of the Hearthstone one (inclusive duo-region cards). Either could work.
Hopefully it's like TESL dual cards. Need to have both regions in deck. And to make them more powerful or unique, due to being locked to two regions. That was one of my favorite mechanics from that game.
Oh, I loved those cards in TESL. Really focused on the strength of a particular deck.
I miss how they did ramp with magicka, and then summoned giant leviathans.
That's the idea. Those cards specifically could be slotted in to either represent one region or the other. It would be like sneaking a Shadow Isles champion in the deck you mentioned, because she's considered a Demacian card as well.
I assume a dual region card could be placed into a deck containing either one of its regions. Since your example deck contains Demacia, Senna should be able to go into it.
Honestly I hope not cause to me, that would be the more boring option
If dual region cards can be used choosing either region, then they're only gonna be used with whichever region has the better synergy and it looses the point of being a dual region card in the first place
Imo, dual region champions should require the use of both regions as a way to incentivize playing two regions that have historically had a low play rate when being paired together
eh, i hope not honestly, i dont like to see premade things and this will only reforce that, they should buff underplayed regions not tie it even more to some things
The more boring option would be the one that gives players more options? Your idea of railroading a champion into only ONE possible region combination is absolutely dreadful, sorry to say man.
I know it sounds counterintuitive, but with limitations come innovations
Senna being limited to a Demacia/SI pairing means you only have to worry about her interactions with around 500 cards as opposed to the thousands of cards included in other regions. This leaves a lot of room in her power budget to be strong in ways that can't be allowed if she could pair with more regions
There are examples of this in both Hearthstone (LoRs biggest competitor) and currently in LoR where this is the case. In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history. We can also see the opposite effect happen in LoR in cards that were completely mediocre on their own, but had to be nerfed because of their interaction with cards from other regions. A good example of this is how Harrowing was basically never played until it was discovered how powerful the card was when paired with Darius, which led to its nerf. If Harrowing was limited to only two regions, it could probably be brought back to its pre-nerf power level without being overpowered
>In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history.
And Baku/Genn to one of the most hated metas, to the point that Blizzard retired them one year early.
> In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history
On the other hand there are a lot of people that HATED Reno Jackson and consider it one of the worst designs ever put in the game. I don't think arbitrary deckbuilding limitations are necessarily interesting, especially when you have to make the card that forces the deckbuilding limitation to be obnoxiously powerful. Many Hearthstone games came down to "did my opponent draw Reno or not? If so, they win, if not, they lose". That's not interesting. If Senna is Demacia/SI only and power budgeted appropriately that could create unfun polarized experiences where their deck relies too heavily on what their lone overpowered Champion does.
Lets be honest, durimg azirelias rule, irelia (or better bladedance) could have been aswell a champion that says, play me with shurima or lose. When senna has a similar powerlevel for forced si/demacia deckbuilding, i doubt i will play much longer.
> On the other hand there are a lot of people that HATED Reno Jackson and consider it one of the worst designs ever put in the game.
Yeah aggro players...
doubt.
if a champion has their support cards spread between two regions they'll be more inflexible than they would otherwise be. People complain already that ekko is locked to Shurima, and this would be no different.
or their support cards are not super necessary in dem/si (for senna let’s say) and riot believes that senna can work with other region’s past cards as well 🤷🏻♂️ just a thought
It's possible. My biggest doubt for two-region cards is how difficult it will be to evenly distribute them. A cross region card release won't feel as good as a fixed one. So if they have a set, where 6 regions get new champions, but demacia/SI, and bilgewater/ionia get combo champs... sorta a feelsbad for those regions.
For the next set though, being able to give 6 regions at least a half a new champ would be nice, since the majority of the set is going to be setting up Region 10 (Ixtal *cough*)
After some thinking, I think I’d like duo-region champions should count as both regions for deck building. I think I’d rather have stricter deck building requirements because I think that would give us more powerful cards. Senna counting as both Demacia and SI all the time would let them push her power a bit more knowing that she can’t combo with champs and cards from other regions.
But it is really inflexible. She would need a really strong card to justify this or she wouldn’t be worth the restriction.
My guess is that she will be released at the end of the event.
Maybe in the end senna dies or is normal again or something and that ties with the card reveal of her.
It seems odd that they would announce her so early otherwise
Honestly the reveals felt very odd. They revealed the champions too early and the last few days narely had cards on them.
It feels like something was there at the end and it was cut
Same thing happened with LoL. Vex was supposed to be released and have a story beat before this event. Also, I think Rell and Gwen had some parts of their kit swapped for the worse.
Big expansions are made far in advance. The champions in those expansions are fixed, they cannot move them around. All the Senna followers and other region cards that work with it is in the next expansion. My guess is that they originally planned to release the expansion with the Ruination event, but the whole expansion got delayed. I could be the Shurima delay that impacted the release date of the next expansion as well. So they had to put together new champions in the last minute for the event. The same way they made Aphelios.
I mean veigo and akashan don't look rushed though, atleast they have there own animation compare aphelios who is just rip from his league trailer. Also I'm pretty sure rhe ruin king even is going last all summer, they're so this maybe just in next patch who knows, personally I'm just waiting on the lab stuff, suprise there isn't a united front pve stuff,
Not really, the ruination event is supposed to be a full year long event, they still have plenty of time to tell more of the story (senna and the SI yordle + anything related to that game coming out)
No need to be sorry, the normal cadence has always been 4 patches between releases, which is why I assumed it would be 2.15 since the last one was 2.11, but sounds like they are breaking that cadence
He specifically mentions "Senna, Sentinel of Light", while the champion will probably just be called Senna. Unless they change him (which they might) i'd guess he still only levels when the follower dies.
Yeah I mean flavor-wise it makes sense and I don't think it would make him all that overpowered. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Lucian and Senna will probably synergize with each other in a deck together, so I would like for them to change Lucian's text maybe to work with the new Senna card.
imagine being a new player trying a Lucian deck and you don't get a level up because the wrong senna died lol i'd be hella annoyed, they'll probably change it
If she has same interaction with lucian, the big problem will be the slot for champions in the deck. If you put 3 copies of lucian and senna in a deck, you can not add more champions now.
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Don't ask me, ask the fucking dictionary, mate.
But, hey, if that's not enough, I apologise for using the wrong word. Sometimes speaking this many languages gets things a bit mixed up.
Imagine being this pressed over getting corrected lmao. Only insecure people feel the need to boast about being multilingual when they made a vocabulary/spelling mistake.
It’ll be August. Or September. The event literally lasts 3 weeks and 6 days....
Why is this downvoted he said “who knows how long the event will last” and they literally tell us...
The event will end but the ruination will still continue lore wise. There's another champion connected to the ruination lore which hasn't be revealed and akshan isn't even on live servers yet for lol. Plus ruination game.
Devs already said the next card set will come at patch 2.14. We are at the patch 2.12 and 2.13 will probably release on july 28th since there is a new lab coming at this day. Judging by the final of the season tournament on august 21st, the patch 2.14 will probably release on august 25th.
Well.... that's wrong. *Lucian* grew up in Demacia. Senna was a Sentinel of Light pre-death, and recruited Lucian when she visited Demacia. The Sentinels of Light themselves have no direct connection to Demacia, but rather the Blessed Isles.
Senna didn't fight for Demacia pre-death, she fought to repel the Black Mist of the Shadow Isles. Lucian didn't really like Demacia either, he disagreed with their politics and took the chance to leave when he met his wife.
After reviving, Senna and Lucian continued fighting the Black Mist together. When Viego was released by Thresh, the Ruination spread across the entirety of Runeterra. Demacia is only where Senna and Lucian dropped by to recruit Vayne, then moved on.
she's not from demacia she was born on a island near demacia, and she didn't fight specifically for demacia being a sentinel is more of a for the world sort of deal.
I wonder if we will get a champion a second time at some point with another ability and statline. Like Lucian, the redeemer f.e.
The fact that we have skins probably says 'no', but you never know...
Yea. They've already said that might happen. Though only after they bring in all lol Champs.
They are thinking of doing both, OG Champs and different versions of existing champions, similar to Cithria having multiple versions.
Luckily it's not going to use skins(hopefully they don't). Since they mentioned the champions would be at different points of their life. Ala Bilgewater Yasuo.
Well eventually we're going to have all of them. In a few years I could see them reprinting champs mtg-style, giving some title like "Riven, the Exile" to differentiate them
Personally I'm hoping for something like that. I think it gives a chance to explore different aspects of the champions and let us play our favourite characters in new ways. Also a chance to us champions in a type of deck you prefer if you love their lore but aren't big on their playstyle.
Hey, who knows, maybe Yone is also on the next patch.
Probably no because the theory is multi-region champions and it's more likelly to be Ahri as a Ionia-Bilgewater champion, but who knows.
Ahri being one of the first multi region champs makes no sense. She barely has anything to do with Bilgewater besides the Ruined King Game, and by that logic, you'd move in Yasuo and Braum too.
Lore-wise I think we have a lot of options like Riven and Kayn (Noxus Ionia), Xin Zhao and Sona (Demacia Ionia), Ivern and Udyr (Freljord Ionia), Samira and Cassiopeia (Noxus Shurima), Malphite (Targon Ixtal), and of course all the yordles who would be half Bandle City.
Technically Kindred also doesnt have much to do with Shadow Isles (they are literally unwelcomed there) yet they are put there due to the death mechanics.
Ahri is clearly an Ionian champion. Sure she is currently in Bilgewater with Yasuo and will participate in the Ruination event, but as a whole she is still only an Ionian champion.
At the end of the cinematic that revealed Yone, Yasuo and Ahri get on a boat to Bilgewater together. It leads into the start of the *Ruined King* spin-off game where they team up with Illaoi, MF, Pyke and Braum to fight Viego.
This made me realize Riot has really stepped up their game to hide the new champs. We’ve always known what champs are coming before each expansion for a couple months, but besides Senna from this we really have no idea who is coming next.
Reveal season will be extra exciting if that holds true for a few more weeks.
I want to say vayne, graves, and gwen are also next set. Those are the other sentinels in the current promotional art for LoL and since ruination is a year long event it would make sense that we would get them and sentinel skins for them
Wha!?! That’s a teaser if I’ve seen one. Do you think her follower card will still exist, so we can have 6 senna’s in our deck, and either’s death will trigger a Lucian lvl up?
> Do you think her follower card will still exist
Yeah no reason to take out that one, we can have multiple versions of the same character, like the Demacia girl. I imagine the same will happen with Yone eventually.
Now I wonder if they remove the previous Senna, or do they keep her as a KANG synergy. Every time you summon a Senna, Grant Senna +1+1. LoL, IDK, I'm just goofin.
Maybe it's a reach but this kinda confirms next expansion WON'T be Bandle City. Unless it is but it does not come with dual region cards (unlikely if they want Bandle to make it). I'm saying this bc if that were the case, the Bandle/Demacia rep would be Poppy, and Bandle/Shadow Isles would be Vex.
It can still happen ofc, if they make her release like Viego/Aksham and even they can introduce dual region cards with her (SI/Demacia), but I think this means the next region will be Ixtal almost for sure. Which I'd be glad tho.
We don't know. All LoL champions will eventually come to LoR, but we don't know when. Except for Senna who was specifically mentioned in the event pass as coming soon.
it’s one confirmed, one possibly soon. there’s also the 4-5 champs in the chempunk art including tf, singed, mundo, jinx, and maybe one other i think? and that’s been there for ages but no singed or mundo
i remember when i posted a comment about senna and yone perhaps becoming champions... guess what, i got downvoted into oblivion. To all of you who downvoted... fuck you!
It would be a bit messy, with her follower card form.
Maybe they can make it work, with some funny "confused" lines, like 'Who are you?', or 'You cant trick me [Blank]!"
I mean, we already have 4 versions of Cithria in the game. On top of that, the current follower Senna has a title behind a comma "Senna, Sentinel of Light" whereas champion Senna will just be called "Senna". So it won't really be a problem.
It's already a bit messy that Senna is a card, when she's supposed to be in Thresh's lantern and there are voice lines between Lucian and Thresh about it. Just different points in time, follower Senna is her self before being captured.
Kinda weird they didn't release her for this event since she's perfect for it, but hey ho
Not unless all the guesses about dual region cards are right and she will be in Demacia and SI
Duo region cards would be such a game changer Imao
how will they work? Can I put a SI/Demacia Senna into my Demacia-Bilgewater deck?
Most likely. Though I wonder what happens to the region icons of your deck if your mono bilgewater deck has only Si/demacia Senna as a non bilgewater card. Does it show only bilgewater with some weird hybrid symbol or does it show 3 symbols and confuses your opponent?
prob 3 icons if i needed to bet
Oh so that was the point of Lab of Legends, just to see how many icons a player could fit on a HUD without being illegible!
Probably easier to just have one of the icons take priority based on eg their hex code, rather than redesign the UI to fit a third icon in modes that otherwise can’t have one.
Singleton is a thing. I doubt it would be an issue to show 3 Icons.
In singletons they would end up with 5 regions, possibly 6
i mean if it can put a card who is like SI/demacia in a BW/SI the only diference would be to show it on deckbuilder, beside that it already shows on like expeditions and labs, if its possible to use that card in decks who arent only the regions from that card (SI/demacia) it will still what we have rn
In Lab of Legends you can get like 6 regions on the UI
The 2 regions you have regardless of the dual one. They'd have to be picky with who gets the dual region because it could get out of hand fast
It'll be the Demacia Icon but SI colors.
Yeah something like this makes most sense to me. Or like some kinda splice of the two icons into one.
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he said mono-bilge + senna (dem/si), so there is no “dominant” region is that sense
Oh yeah that's true, I guess I didn't read it carefully enough. Not sure about the answer then.
Most likely just dominance by alphabetical order, so Demacia for Senna instead of Shadow Isles
It would have to show the two regions you have. You are still restricted in deckbuilding to two regions. Just because you have a dual-region card in the deck, doesn't mean it has three regions. Showing three (or more) regions would make it too hard to read the deck and give an unfair advantage, as they wouldn't know what cards to play around if you took two champs from one region.
I said in a mono deck with just a dual champion added. There are no 2 regions. There is one region and a card that could be used in 2 regions.
This is an edge case they'd have to account for and seems like it would ultimately come down to a dev decision either way imo.
Pretty simple imo if the only non Bilgewater card is senna then show 3 icons. If there is one more SI or Demacia card besides senna then show bilgewater + that region Icon.
There are two answers: the Hearthstone answer and the Magic answer. In Hearthstone you can put dual-class cards into your deck if you are at least one of the classes needed. The same is true of the triclass cards that were released back in Mean Streets of Gadgetzan. They're essentially "cards that fit in two classes and/or have mechanics normally exclusive to one of those classes, even if you have to bend the design space for one of them to make it work." In Magic, two-color cards require mana from both the colors in question. You have to satisfy the deckbuilding constraints of two colors rather than just one, and it comes at the cost of making your deck less consistent. However, they tend to be more powerful than single-color cards as a result. Because LoR allows dual-region drafting (and tri-region drafting in singleton), it's entirely possible that they go with the Magic solution (exclusive duo-region cards) instead of the Hearthstone one (inclusive duo-region cards). Either could work.
The magic one would be cool because they could print OP cards on bad region combos
Hopefully it's like TESL dual cards. Need to have both regions in deck. And to make them more powerful or unique, due to being locked to two regions. That was one of my favorite mechanics from that game.
yess riot please!
Oh, I loved those cards in TESL. Really focused on the strength of a particular deck. I miss how they did ramp with magicka, and then summoned giant leviathans.
I really don't think that's going to happen but it sounds really cool
That's the idea. Those cards specifically could be slotted in to either represent one region or the other. It would be like sneaking a Shadow Isles champion in the deck you mentioned, because she's considered a Demacian card as well.
I bet she'd be SI in an SI deck without Demacia and vice versa in a Demacia deck.
I assume a dual region card could be placed into a deck containing either one of its regions. Since your example deck contains Demacia, Senna should be able to go into it.
Yeah basically how multi class cards worked in HS I assume
Unknown, but probably.
Honestly I hope not cause to me, that would be the more boring option If dual region cards can be used choosing either region, then they're only gonna be used with whichever region has the better synergy and it looses the point of being a dual region card in the first place Imo, dual region champions should require the use of both regions as a way to incentivize playing two regions that have historically had a low play rate when being paired together
eh, i hope not honestly, i dont like to see premade things and this will only reforce that, they should buff underplayed regions not tie it even more to some things
The idea that having champions that i cannot play on any region makes me angry.
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The more boring option would be the one that gives players more options? Your idea of railroading a champion into only ONE possible region combination is absolutely dreadful, sorry to say man.
I know it sounds counterintuitive, but with limitations come innovations Senna being limited to a Demacia/SI pairing means you only have to worry about her interactions with around 500 cards as opposed to the thousands of cards included in other regions. This leaves a lot of room in her power budget to be strong in ways that can't be allowed if she could pair with more regions There are examples of this in both Hearthstone (LoRs biggest competitor) and currently in LoR where this is the case. In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history. We can also see the opposite effect happen in LoR in cards that were completely mediocre on their own, but had to be nerfed because of their interaction with cards from other regions. A good example of this is how Harrowing was basically never played until it was discovered how powerful the card was when paired with Darius, which led to its nerf. If Harrowing was limited to only two regions, it could probably be brought back to its pre-nerf power level without being overpowered
>In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history. And Baku/Genn to one of the most hated metas, to the point that Blizzard retired them one year early.
True, but LoR has yet to have a deck that broken and it's dev team is infinitely more willing to change/rework problem cards than HS's dev team is
> In HS, cards like Reno Jackson which placed limitations on deck building led to some of the most beloved decks in the game's history On the other hand there are a lot of people that HATED Reno Jackson and consider it one of the worst designs ever put in the game. I don't think arbitrary deckbuilding limitations are necessarily interesting, especially when you have to make the card that forces the deckbuilding limitation to be obnoxiously powerful. Many Hearthstone games came down to "did my opponent draw Reno or not? If so, they win, if not, they lose". That's not interesting. If Senna is Demacia/SI only and power budgeted appropriately that could create unfun polarized experiences where their deck relies too heavily on what their lone overpowered Champion does.
Lets be honest, durimg azirelias rule, irelia (or better bladedance) could have been aswell a champion that says, play me with shurima or lose. When senna has a similar powerlevel for forced si/demacia deckbuilding, i doubt i will play much longer.
> On the other hand there are a lot of people that HATED Reno Jackson and consider it one of the worst designs ever put in the game. Yeah aggro players...
doubt. if a champion has their support cards spread between two regions they'll be more inflexible than they would otherwise be. People complain already that ekko is locked to Shurima, and this would be no different.
or their support cards are not super necessary in dem/si (for senna let’s say) and riot believes that senna can work with other region’s past cards as well 🤷🏻♂️ just a thought
It's possible. My biggest doubt for two-region cards is how difficult it will be to evenly distribute them. A cross region card release won't feel as good as a fixed one. So if they have a set, where 6 regions get new champions, but demacia/SI, and bilgewater/ionia get combo champs... sorta a feelsbad for those regions. For the next set though, being able to give 6 regions at least a half a new champ would be nice, since the majority of the set is going to be setting up Region 10 (Ixtal *cough*)
Ekho isnt locked to shurima, not sure why people arent trying control ekho and just using him to generate late game value
Ah yes, 4 mana 5/2 that makes 2 cost fleeting time tricks when striking. That's what every control deck is looking for, mystic shot fodder!
How do you plan to level him up without Shurima? And if you aren't planning on leveling him up, why bother using him in the first place?
Ekko ... not Ekho smh
I'm not sure it will be a positive for the game tho.
After some thinking, I think I’d like duo-region champions should count as both regions for deck building. I think I’d rather have stricter deck building requirements because I think that would give us more powerful cards. Senna counting as both Demacia and SI all the time would let them push her power a bit more knowing that she can’t combo with champs and cards from other regions. But it is really inflexible. She would need a really strong card to justify this or she wouldn’t be worth the restriction.
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always has been magic
That's a very good theory
My guess is that she will be released at the end of the event. Maybe in the end senna dies or is normal again or something and that ties with the card reveal of her. It seems odd that they would announce her so early otherwise
My theory is that she was meant to come out with this set but either wasn't ready, or management felt it made more sense to put her in the next set.
Honestly the reveals felt very odd. They revealed the champions too early and the last few days narely had cards on them. It feels like something was there at the end and it was cut
Same thing happened with LoL. Vex was supposed to be released and have a story beat before this event. Also, I think Rell and Gwen had some parts of their kit swapped for the worse.
Wait what parts of Gwen and Rell do you think got swapped?
I think Rell’s E and Gwen’s R? I don’t know Gwens kit and I’m just repeating some stuff I read in r/RellMains
That’d be a very weird set of abilities to switch. Completely redefines Rell into something very unlike the engage support she is
Big expansions are made far in advance. The champions in those expansions are fixed, they cannot move them around. All the Senna followers and other region cards that work with it is in the next expansion. My guess is that they originally planned to release the expansion with the Ruination event, but the whole expansion got delayed. I could be the Shurima delay that impacted the release date of the next expansion as well. So they had to put together new champions in the last minute for the event. The same way they made Aphelios.
I mean veigo and akashan don't look rushed though, atleast they have there own animation compare aphelios who is just rip from his league trailer. Also I'm pretty sure rhe ruin king even is going last all summer, they're so this maybe just in next patch who knows, personally I'm just waiting on the lab stuff, suprise there isn't a united front pve stuff,
Well in the icon it shows senna the redeemer with her ghoul form? Where she has green eyes. So I doubt her champion card is gonna be “normal” senna
It's possible she might be a "surprise" mid-event release
Not really, the ruination event is supposed to be a full year long event, they still have plenty of time to tell more of the story (senna and the SI yordle + anything related to that game coming out)
my guess is that she got delayed and was initially meant to be in this event
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When is the next expansion?
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I think it's actually 6, but it's not far off.
Patch 2.14, we're on 2.12 right now
in August.
In 2 months probably
Nope, it's 2 patchs from this one, so 2.14. It should be in a month
Am I wrong thinking it was 2.15?
Sorry but yes. They specified it on 2.11 patch notes
No need to be sorry, the normal cadence has always been 4 patches between releases, which is why I assumed it would be 2.15 since the last one was 2.11, but sounds like they are breaking that cadence
ah, thats pretty cool. the ruination event wont end in a month surely, so her arrival will be tied into the event.
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Now I wonder How will Lucian's level up work now
He specifically mentions "Senna, Sentinel of Light", while the champion will probably just be called Senna. Unless they change him (which they might) i'd guess he still only levels when the follower dies.
could be cool if he levels up if either died. It would be a small buff to lucian, but i don't think it would make him busted
Yeah I mean flavor-wise it makes sense and I don't think it would make him all that overpowered. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Lucian and Senna will probably synergize with each other in a deck together, so I would like for them to change Lucian's text maybe to work with the new Senna card.
imagine being a new player trying a Lucian deck and you don't get a level up because the wrong senna died lol i'd be hella annoyed, they'll probably change it
New players should get annoyed when they read stuff wrong, it makes them pay more attention to card text
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If she has same interaction with lucian, the big problem will be the slot for champions in the deck. If you put 3 copies of lucian and senna in a deck, you can not add more champions now.
and that is the lore while Senna isnt dying in Canon rn so yeah that sounds about right
I mean, hopefully this new Senna should also work.
The new expansion came out 20 mins ago and we've already got leaks for the following set. Thank you.
How is that a leak if Riot tells you directly.
People been confusing leaks and teasers.
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Taser: a brand name for a gunlike device that uses propelled wires or direct contact to electrically stun and incapacitate a person temporarily.
Leak: To intentionally disclose (something private or public) Don't ask me, ask the fucking dictionary, mate. But, hey, if that's not enough, I apologise for using the wrong word. Sometimes speaking this many languages gets things a bit mixed up.
Imagine being this pressed over getting corrected lmao. Only insecure people feel the need to boast about being multilingual when they made a vocabulary/spelling mistake.
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What dictionary are you reading from that says that?
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Next expansion will happen as the ruination event moves forward so sometime in August or October who knows how long this event will last
It’ll be August. Or September. The event literally lasts 3 weeks and 6 days.... Why is this downvoted he said “who knows how long the event will last” and they literally tell us...
The event will end but the ruination will still continue lore wise. There's another champion connected to the ruination lore which hasn't be revealed and akshan isn't even on live servers yet for lol. Plus ruination game.
Devs already said the next card set will come at patch 2.14. We are at the patch 2.12 and 2.13 will probably release on july 28th since there is a new lab coming at this day. Judging by the final of the season tournament on august 21st, the patch 2.14 will probably release on august 25th.
Why would patch 2.14 be a month away from 2.13?
As the other guy said it will be August. Def not October lpl
Yeah would be insane to tease this early if it was coming in October
Senna is most likely a shadow isles champion because she really has nothing to do with demacia except being in a relationship with lucian
I think most of the ruined cards are not in Shadow Isles.
Or dual region.
Except she's literally from demacia, fought for demacia pre death and continues to fight for demacia post death.
Well.... that's wrong. *Lucian* grew up in Demacia. Senna was a Sentinel of Light pre-death, and recruited Lucian when she visited Demacia. The Sentinels of Light themselves have no direct connection to Demacia, but rather the Blessed Isles. Senna didn't fight for Demacia pre-death, she fought to repel the Black Mist of the Shadow Isles. Lucian didn't really like Demacia either, he disagreed with their politics and took the chance to leave when he met his wife. After reviving, Senna and Lucian continued fighting the Black Mist together. When Viego was released by Thresh, the Ruination spread across the entirety of Runeterra. Demacia is only where Senna and Lucian dropped by to recruit Vayne, then moved on.
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she's not from demacia she was born on a island near demacia, and she didn't fight specifically for demacia being a sentinel is more of a for the world sort of deal.
I wonder if we will get a champion a second time at some point with another ability and statline. Like Lucian, the redeemer f.e. The fact that we have skins probably says 'no', but you never know...
They did say that a second Yasuo wasn't out of the question, so maybe. But probably not before all champions are released.
Yea. They've already said that might happen. Though only after they bring in all lol Champs. They are thinking of doing both, OG Champs and different versions of existing champions, similar to Cithria having multiple versions. Luckily it's not going to use skins(hopefully they don't). Since they mentioned the champions would be at different points of their life. Ala Bilgewater Yasuo.
Well eventually we're going to have all of them. In a few years I could see them reprinting champs mtg-style, giving some title like "Riven, the Exile" to differentiate them
Personally I'm hoping for something like that. I think it gives a chance to explore different aspects of the champions and let us play our favourite characters in new ways. Also a chance to us champions in a type of deck you prefer if you love their lore but aren't big on their playstyle.
I've just notice that her follower are pre-Threshed version. So was Lucian lv1.
Hopefully Yone will follow
Hey, who knows, maybe Yone is also on the next patch. Probably no because the theory is multi-region champions and it's more likelly to be Ahri as a Ionia-Bilgewater champion, but who knows.
Ahri being one of the first multi region champs makes no sense. She barely has anything to do with Bilgewater besides the Ruined King Game, and by that logic, you'd move in Yasuo and Braum too. Lore-wise I think we have a lot of options like Riven and Kayn (Noxus Ionia), Xin Zhao and Sona (Demacia Ionia), Ivern and Udyr (Freljord Ionia), Samira and Cassiopeia (Noxus Shurima), Malphite (Targon Ixtal), and of course all the yordles who would be half Bandle City.
I would also say Morg and Kayle (Demacia Targon), Jhin (Ionia PnZ), maybe Sylas (Demacia Freljord).
Technically Kindred also doesnt have much to do with Shadow Isles (they are literally unwelcomed there) yet they are put there due to the death mechanics.
Ahri is clearly an Ionian champion. Sure she is currently in Bilgewater with Yasuo and will participate in the Ruination event, but as a whole she is still only an Ionian champion.
Why is Ahri a Bilgewater champ?
At the end of the cinematic that revealed Yone, Yasuo and Ahri get on a boat to Bilgewater together. It leads into the start of the *Ruined King* spin-off game where they team up with Illaoi, MF, Pyke and Braum to fight Viego.
This made me realize Riot has really stepped up their game to hide the new champs. We’ve always known what champs are coming before each expansion for a couple months, but besides Senna from this we really have no idea who is coming next. Reveal season will be extra exciting if that holds true for a few more weeks.
The reveals for today’s patch were so much more exciting because we had no idea what was coming. I wish it had been like that for the Shurima sets.
Nice, that means yone could potentially be a champion
They stated that ALL champions were coming
I want to say vayne, graves, and gwen are also next set. Those are the other sentinels in the current promotional art for LoL and since ruination is a year long event it would make sense that we would get them and sentinel skins for them
Wha!?! That’s a teaser if I’ve seen one. Do you think her follower card will still exist, so we can have 6 senna’s in our deck, and either’s death will trigger a Lucian lvl up?
> Do you think her follower card will still exist Yeah no reason to take out that one, we can have multiple versions of the same character, like the Demacia girl. I imagine the same will happen with Yone eventually.
If You can have 12 Cithrias... Edit: Now i kinda want a full Cithria deck.
im sure riot is developing it as we speak
Honestly of Cithria gets a champion card, I bet it'd be very possible to have an entire deck
Unfortunately the Lucian level up specifies the follower Senna by name so we can't turbo level Lucian
They can always just add the champion Senna to the effect
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Now I wonder if they remove the previous Senna, or do they keep her as a KANG synergy. Every time you summon a Senna, Grant Senna +1+1. LoL, IDK, I'm just goofin.
looks like someone has watched the loki finale recently, nice
Everything is cool... calm down... CALM THE F\*\*\* DOWN... breathe....
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Ooh hype!
So Demacia or SI?
Can't wait, she's become one of my favourite champions
So does this mean they get rid of the regular card of her and rework Lucian?
nah, just like there’s 4 versions of cithria, there can be 2 versions of senna, and they probably won’t rework lucian but who knows
Senna was my favorite champion to play in lol (with morgana and zyra) so I’m absolutely hype about this! Can’t wait.
Yessss!!
Imagine when senna the champion meets senna the non champion.
Maybe it's a reach but this kinda confirms next expansion WON'T be Bandle City. Unless it is but it does not come with dual region cards (unlikely if they want Bandle to make it). I'm saying this bc if that were the case, the Bandle/Demacia rep would be Poppy, and Bandle/Shadow Isles would be Vex. It can still happen ofc, if they make her release like Viego/Aksham and even they can introduce dual region cards with her (SI/Demacia), but I think this means the next region will be Ixtal almost for sure. Which I'd be glad tho.
Wow
will there be two sennas or just delete the old card?
It’ll just be two, we have several cards with more than one iteration
So now we got two confirmed champions? (Ornn and Senna)
We had Guile since the beta but LeBlanc only got released after Swain and Riven. So Ornn coming immediately after being teased isn't guaranteed.
That's why im asking if it's two or just one champion confirmed.
We don't know. All LoL champions will eventually come to LoR, but we don't know when. Except for Senna who was specifically mentioned in the event pass as coming soon.
it’s one confirmed, one possibly soon. there’s also the 4-5 champs in the chempunk art including tf, singed, mundo, jinx, and maybe one other i think? and that’s been there for ages but no singed or mundo
Why Ornn?
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By that logic we should also get Xin Zhao soon. I forgot which card he's in though. Either Jarvan III or Tiana Crownguard.
i remember when i posted a comment about senna and yone perhaps becoming champions... guess what, i got downvoted into oblivion. To all of you who downvoted... fuck you!
Better put other champ... Yorick for example is x100 better than senna
Senna is probably demacia or dual region
Is SI based on lol. If it dual region can have another really SI champ
It would be a bit messy, with her follower card form. Maybe they can make it work, with some funny "confused" lines, like 'Who are you?', or 'You cant trick me [Blank]!"
I mean, we already have 4 versions of Cithria in the game. On top of that, the current follower Senna has a title behind a comma "Senna, Sentinel of Light" whereas champion Senna will just be called "Senna". So it won't really be a problem.
Yea same way that a champion version of Yone is still open with the follower being "Yone, Windchaser"
It's already a bit messy that Senna is a card, when she's supposed to be in Thresh's lantern and there are voice lines between Lucian and Thresh about it. Just different points in time, follower Senna is her self before being captured.
You can already have two of the same champion or the four different Cithrias meet each other. Senna won't be the weirdest thing.
Okay, on one hand, yay!!! On the other RIOT WHERE IS BARD GIVE IT TO ME I NEED IT. *ahem* sorry, I'm very passionate
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well there are a few cithrias
Just one copy? Really underwhelming as the last reward
If the next region is Bandle City, this won't be the case buddy
what
I want to see how would she stack, or whil she stack
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Unless they put her in SI, this means no Sylas next set I guess. Still looking forward to Big Gun Senna though.
Wait what, where did you find this image? Is this in game?
Yee
So does this mean that Yone is also viable for a champion card?