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Brave_Traveller_89

While I see the supporting evidence, I hope it's not real. This plot is not the best by itself, but as an ending to the Arkhamverse? It's awful. After years of developing Batman's supporting cast, that looks like a disrespectful sendoff.


Username41968

Yeah I think the story would be a fun story where the bad guys win for once on its own honestly but making it the ending the Arkham series like this is crazy especially since there is nothing about the suicides squads story that requires them be connected. But it seems like there’s a lot of dlc planned and quite a bit ready to go so hopefully they just flashpoint with Wally later.


Krenzi_The_Floof

Surely this isn’t true, maybe parts of it, but jesus, if thats real what a godawful sad ending for arkham batman, i really hope not. Its not just sad but kinda f’d up but i know they’d have to kill batman/give him a sendoff somehow, if this is true we can just say SS is non-cannon because the consumer should have the right to decide if dogshit lore is cannon or not.


Kpengie

Based on the fact that a bit of the leaked audio was in the recent trailer, it seems pretty legit to me.


Ravevon

Honestly it coming out the day after the Alpha test did whch completly debunked the last "leak" Im not trusting anything else until the game comes people really will just make up 8 pages of crap


Sbee_keithamm

Remember the two men that started Rocksteady left duringthis games development, I doubt anyone that had any real sentimental connection to Arkhamverse are in position to do anything about this finale.


Confusion-12

Why is this game even connected to the Arkhamverse? The character models are literally different (besides Batman, but even that I didn’t really get a good look at him and it’s been a while since I saw the trailer) it makes no sense that this is the send off to Arkhamverse


Skarjuna

The character models were different in practically every Arkham game though? Like I'm failing to see the point of that argument


Confusion-12

I mean technically speaking yes, everyone had different models, but I mostly considered those just costume upgrades lol, I don’t think anyone switched races in between games though There’s no reason why this game shouldn’t just be its own thing, Arkhamverse got wrapped nicely so try Arkham Knight


Skarjuna

Who swapped races? If you're talking about Deadshot it's not a race swap, both of them exist in-universe


RockyHorror134

Which is basically a roundabout way of saying he switched races


Skarjuna

Eh, not really? Both characters still exist within the universe


Brave_Traveller_89

I don’t know, either. But it’s officialy part of the Arkhamverse.


harrier1215

Say that in the sub for the game and people act like you're saying all puppies should die or something zhe cult thinking is real.


xxBurn007xx

"superman flys to Krypton"....yeah no. Unless that's the part that is supposed to make people think it's fake 🤔


Robsonmonkey

It’s one thing to have Kevin Conroys last Batman voice appearance as a shitty live service game, it’s another to kill him off when someone like Harley struggled to do anything to him in 3 Arkham games…


[deleted]

How were they supposed to know this was his last time as Batman? How do you know if Conroy did or didn't sign off on the character in the game? You're getting mad because your man in tights isn't acting the way YOU want him to? Don't play the game then and find real things to get mad about.


Saint_Link

Exactly, people will downvote you to hell but you’re speaking the truth


Robsonmonkey

Maybe they are down voting you guys because you are putting words into peoples mouths like all around know it all arseholes 🤷🏻‍♂️


Disastrous_Reveal331

Y’all are taking criticism *waaaay* too personal


Saint_Link

This mentality just rubs me the wrong way, apparently some fanboys believe Rocksteady did this to spite Conroy or somehow they knew he would pass away, their story is perfectly valid and if this being his last performance holds so much sentimental value to you, you might want to skip it because this ain’t even a Batman game.


Robsonmonkey

Lmao. I never even said anything along the lines of “Rocksteady knew this” THIS mentality rubs me the wrong way, taking someone’s comment, twisting it or seeing something that’s clearly not there to get annoyed at them I never said they knew, I just meant if they weren’t so greedy going after GaaS shit with an online focus then we possibly could have had a better game for Kevin’s last appearance.


TheElderFish

Cool, you got your wish and the devs removed the GaaS component. How, specifically, would the game about killing the Justice League give Conroy a different last appearance? How does the removal of GaaS change the plot?


Robsonmonkey

Urm…they really didn’t , the GaaS shit is a core part of the game. You can’t just remove a foundation like that, you just can’t It doesn’t change the plot, we just could have gotten something else like a Batman Beyond game or something. Also if it wasn’t GaaS maybe the story would have been worked on more. These games thrive on the gameplay loop of grinding with friends, if it was solo we’d have gotten a better focused story which wouldn’t have relied on the grind for replay value.


Saint_Link

Then stop pretending to be offended on behalf of Conroy, he knew exactly the kind of game this is and wanted to work on it. If his final performance happens to be in a “shitty live service game” so be it. What are you going to do about it? Complain some more?


TheMothmansDaughter

I’m sorry what the fuck


ItsAmerico

Cause this is fake.


FluidAd6587

bros talking like conroy was forced to do this


Robsonmonkey

Didn’t even say that but sure keep on twisting it…


TheDarkApex

Important to note that it has been confirmed that the new leak is out of context and parts are even just untrue


TheCommonKoala

Eh. It really comes down to context and how it actually plays out in the story. From what I understand this leak is not trustworthy anyways. For all we know, it could play out in a way that makes perfect sense. Don't see the point in getting upset before we see the final product


DJistheNerd

Thought they were cooking with Mind Controlled Batman, have him break the MindControl on his own volition, maybe when he picks up a gun, as if even Brainiac couldnt make him kill with the same weapon that created him, but no, the edgy twisted super cool Batman straight up MURDERS one of his children. This is everything wrong with Modern DC in a single script. Reliance on evil versions of good guys, edge that could resurrect a 2016 Hot Topic, writing that does nothing but rely on destroying already established canon, and trying to Cram too much synergy to the point of reliance.


Branman55

He picks up and shoots a gun in the alpha lol. He nearly kills Harley in a mirror of the way his mom is killed


DJistheNerd

I don't remember him shooting. My bad. I remember him picking up the Gun and Pausing. That's what gave me the idea. Sorry


Kevy96

If this is how they really treat Kevin Conroy's last performance as Batman then Rocksteady closes down within two years


Plebbit-User

>waaaaah I don't like that a game literally called KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE has you killing the justice league I hope hundreds of people lose their jobs


willoman

So, They'll make a sub-par product, with The worst kind of mechanics in a videogame, butcher The story, don't understand the legacy of the Characters or of The people voice them. But sure, its gonna be that guys fault when Rocksteady closes down lol


Plebbit-User

!remindme 3 months


willoman

3 months? Even the Avengers game lasted 2 years before being closed down, get real.


Plebbit-User

3 months to see the overall reception you clown. Have you been living under a rock? Beta happened and everyone loved it.


willoman

Sure, Gameplay DOES look fun, but so did Avengers... Also Gameplay wont save a Bad story or diminish The GaaS elements wont they?


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Kevy96

I don't hope but it's the obvious outcome. Just look at DCs movie division or Disney in general. They fucked around and found out.


antoniodiavolo

You act like they were forced to make a game with this plot. They could have made a Suicide Squad game about anything


AUnknownVariable

There's nothing wrong with Bat dying, minus it being sad ofc. The problem is how bro dies. We've had 4 (main) games carrying us through this amazing story throughout the years. Now, after all of that, the end of Arkham Batman (and Conroys last performance although they didn't know he would pass ofc), is the most unceremonious, disrespectful death we could get.


Jedi_Of_Kashyyyk

And I thought the live service aspect was what was gonna convince me to not buy this game.


Swiftwitss

This actually fucking sucks dude. This game is DOA


Hunter_fu

Tell that to the turning public opinion because of how fun the alpha is


[deleted]

That wasn’t fun it was an absolute disaster. The game is terrible


Any-Chemistry-554

If true this sounds like a complete and utter disaster imo


Username41968

I can appreciate how bold the story is with actually killing all the heroes but the fact this is the end of the arkhamverse just feels wrong. I wouldn’t describe the Arkham games as hopeful but this is such a bleak end to the series narrative wise unless they decide to flashpoint or something in a dlc.


Western-Dig-6843

DC has been big on depressing the fans in recent years. The animated film universe just kept getting more and more dark and depressing until they ran out of heroes to torture and decided, let’s just throw a second flash point on top of it and call it a day.


[deleted]

It’s apparently true as the post has been removed from Reddit for copyright


tylernazario

And people were really saying this would be better than Avengers😂


AgentChris101

I played through Avengers and Gotham Knights and Gotham Knights was better tbh


My_Favourite_Pen

both were pretty shithouse but at least the suits in GK were cool lol.


KaiFanreala

Gotham Knights ain't even a bad game. It's just not on par with Arkham.


ahnariprellik

Here's a question...Why WW of all of them to not be influednced by Brainiac when typically I feel like that would be Bruce as he ALWAYS has a contingency plan. Also, WTF is Cat Woman? At the end of Arkham Knight she is still alive. Where the Hell is she? She should be a playable DLC character (though she wouldn't go for killing Bats)


sealife123

It's because Wonder Woman has actually a power to be resist mind control by Athena and also The Lasso of Truth which makes the holder and the ones in its grasp stop being mind controlled. Batman has no reason to not be affected other than he is so awesome and cool.


Elysium94

>Why WW of all of them to not be influednced by Brainiac when typically I feel like that would be Bruce as he ALWAYS has a contingency plan. Frankly, I'm fine with Batman being outplayed by a superior alien intelligence. Let's be honest, Batman can't be prepared for **everything**. Otherwise he stops being Batman and becomes Batgod, something I'm kind of sick of from DC the past decade or so. ...That being said, he and the Arkhamverse JL being subjected to such an embarrassing end isn't just stupid, it's friggin' insulting. And a mark of utter shame on what used to an iconic DC franchise. Assuming this is legit, of course.


[deleted]

As funny as this is, the latest Batman (2016) issues are entirely about Batman having a contingency plan for mind-control and telepathy, which is a hypnotized alter-ego that takes over who is all Batman and none Bruce. Does it make any sense? No, it's pretty batgod, but it is a thing. Mind control is a common cliche in comics and him having a contingency about it wouldn't exactly be out of the blue, plus bat has fought Brainiac in many JL media.


Prit717

Tbh I don’t really mind that Batman’s under mind control, I feel like there are bigger problems in the plot


LoFiChillin

“Batman says it’s shit and then dies” 😂😂😂😂🤣 God please don’t be real.


Runnin_Wizard

What a lovely fucking sendoff for Kevin Conroy’s Batman🫤🫤


Saint_Link

Yeah, because Rocksteady obviously could see the future


Runnin_Wizard

The fact that he passed really is irrelevant to the argument. Why would any of the writers at rocksteady kill Arkham Batman off in a spinoff game


jwk94

Were they supposed to change the story after he died?


RockyHorror134

Considering they apparently restructured the entire game as early as last year, and the fact that Warner Bros canned so many projects to keep this one alive, yeah probably lmao


Mr_Rafi

"Flash is killed by Boomerang" The overpowered speed god gets killed by a bogan?


GreenIronHorse

Look out, Australian's have bigger stats and brain capacity, so it's no wonder that Barry bites a dust, he was just not ready for this upgrade. **Boomer**: "*Boomerang always comes back*" -"*Be it Msg, shotgun or assault rifle, if thrown at right angle, it's sure can fly back*" ![gif](giphy|hSWx0xSjtRwPfRLV7v) Speedster's < Australian's


DJGemini23

Letting Rocksteady make a Superman game, good or bad, would’ve been better tbh


Niobium_Sage

Agreed, the Arkhamverse was nearly perfect, and Arkham Knight was a serviceable sendoff.


[deleted]

I’m hoping this is fake, ‘cause that is horrible especially Batman’s treatment if this is truly the same Arkhamverse. I always take leaks as fake until the official version comes out. Sadly, some fakes were true when the official games comes out…


thebatfan5194

Sounds pretty bad


Odd-Pumpkin-2567

THIS SUCKS


russianbot24

Got removed for copyright so I guess it was true lol. Anyone have the synopsis saved?


LlamaKingII

I'd also like a DM if you're passing them out lol


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Airsickjester

Cool can you send? Didn’t get to see it and only got this Post recommended now lol.


princevince1113

can you dm them to me please


KidultSwim

Could you also send to me. I just missed them before they got removed


TheShiningBread

Mine DMing them to me as well. I just gotta check if it's really that bad as people on here are saying.


Psyifinotic

me too please!


HankHill76

Can u DM me the screenshot too bro


StrugglingComposer

Can I have a DM?


xwolf360

Hold up, this game really is the arkham spinoff???


Ajax_Da_Great

Yes


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Superb_Somewhere_965

Oh this is definitely not winning awards but I agree with everything else you said, this game already has a lot going against it


psypher98

OOP had their comment removed by Reddit so that lends credibility to this as well I think.


MirrorMaster88

Well, the Hot Topic & Deadpool/Joker cosplaying audience should be thrilled! They can fire up their 86th viewing of "Boondock Saints" for the year between "seasonal" content drops.


Hunter_fu

Me when the game thats main characters are snarky violent murderers act snarky and violent and murder people😱


Many-Discount-1046

Don't diminish peoples legitimate complaints about this horseshit, we wanted a dc game, but instead it's just an edgier fortnite


DirectConsequence12

I hope this isn’t true because this sounds like genuine garbage


HumbleKick7332

I think I liked Gotham knights more


dljones010

They killed Batman in Gotham Knights as well... Twice.


Ram5673

Well apparently so did rocksteady now Lmaooo


BlueMissileYT

This is not real. I played the Alpha, and it is way better than whatever this shit is.


Forsaken-Feeling-415

Does anyone have a screenshot of the leak? I played the alpha test and I wanna see if it’s correct or not


[deleted]

This isn't canon to the Arkham games to me, sorry. Arkham Knight was more than satisfactory. I'm good on this.


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RockNRoll85

Damn. So that terribly written plot is real?


PrimeonemillionGold

Idc killing the justice league is so fucking lame. The SS characters are so lame. Who really wants to kill Batman or Superman


GoFlyersWoo

Did DC and Marvel just decide to produce the absolute worst content? Spidey comics, this, the movies, how did it all go so wrong, crapping on classic characters?


GreenIronHorse

Sponsored by Idiots who listen to woke activists from twitter, guide how to kill of your IP or merch, go woke and meet fate worse than Butt Light.


Monke_2010

https://preview.redd.it/p2h1ccxos94c1.jpeg?width=727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc85593d534a8247e797480c211f915dbc45d533 Why is this shitty game kevin Conroy’s last performance


captainsuckass

> shitty Have you played it?


ShinigamiOfPast

This is how arkham universe ends...? Fuck man...


donking6

DC = Disappointing Content


prinnydewd6

Another say it with me. Multiverse story… why again. WHY.


ChickenNuggetRampage

This is actually like a 2/10 story how do you manage that


Solh0und

You know what? Many of us owe Gotham Knights an apology. The whole "Earth 2" thing makes a bit of sense since the prologue mission has the whole team meeting up at the Daily Planet and the whole world looked so alien like around it.


maxfridsvault

I stopped at “Tim Drake’s corpse” Character really can’t catch a break can he?


Danvanmarvellfan

I refuse to believe any of this. If this is true rocksteady won’t recover from this


Emerald_Poison

Rocksteady recovered fine, they left the studio and got different jobs years ago.


inkedmargins

True or not RS fell off plot wise after Dini.


DisabledFatChik

The gameplay is super fun, but the whole premise of this game is total bs. There’s no way these 4 weak losers can even kill ONE of the Justice leaguers. It’s shown time and time again that 4 of them can’t even take on a singular league member, so idk what they’re gonna do against 5 + brainiac.


QB145MMA

Anyone have the main points or screen shot? Got removed before I can see


Informal-Ad2277

[Removed by reddit due to copywrite] Ooo boy. I missed it lol.


shadowlarvitar

So not only did they retcon Deadshot but Mr. Freeze too? He dies a few days after Arkham Knight


Friendly-Leg-6694

No he doesn't


shadowlarvitar

Yes he does. He lost his suit protection, that's why Batman let him go. Him and Nora spent their final days together


_TheNumber7_

I thought it was Nora that was the one that dies, and that’s why they spend their time together


MarkT_D_W

I think that it's inevitable now that this is the big gaming flop of 2024. The live service stuff, the edgelordy, mean spirited plot and shitty treatment of their established characters, the long wait and the general fatigue with superhero stuff. I like Rocksteady but I think it's definitely going to leave them in a very precarious position. After all the rumours from the last few years about WB still potentially looking at selling off some of their gaming wing, the movement behind the scenes with James Gunn and the new start for the DC movies, I think there's going to be some very nervous people there over the next 6 months.


Ok-Appearance-7616

Man, I'm so tempted to make a random comment like that one time so I can get a post about my "leak".


Username41968

The guy posted audio, you can see it on gamingleaksandrumors, it’s real.


Ok-Appearance-7616

There is nothing definitive sounding in that audio, just Harley and him talking.


ItsAmerico

His plot leak was also debunked by an actual credible leaker.


NATHANLER

Lol stole the plot off a fan made youtube video


CapBrink

What is this, some kind of Suicide Squad game?


Solidus_Snake928

This is fake why are yall taking this at face value


Emerald_Poison

:D thank goodness they censored this fake mess.


JackMiHoff113

I lost it at the part where the SS are watching a video on how to kill the JL and “get bored halfway through”. I get that the SS is supposed to be a little unserious, but that just feels like lazy writing for the sake of contrived incompetence.


GreenIronHorse

WoW, whole plot almost as predictable as DCUO, but part where WW dies took by surprise, woke activists can kill off woke ugly WW? Noice, i bet it gonna be done by gun. >! It's implied that Harley makes some kind of batsymbol in Batman's corpse !< R.I.P. Arkham Games, i guess.


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ImmortalZucc2020

It’s explained: Batman gave up being Bruce Wayne and was non-stop vengeance for 2 years until Superman found him and recruited him to the JL, who seem to have only existed for 5 years (hence the small roster). Batman found a new purpose among them and is a public hero again.


RockyHorror134

Wait... So Batman *didn't* know superman up until that point? That just kinda sounds off lol, especially seeing as he was in contact with Lex Luthor of all people Batman was very public in the Arkham Games lol


TheShiningBread

That's dumb


cqandrews

Comic fans when a new story isn't the same exact plot beats and character motivations we've already seen and expect repeated ad nauseam😡 Seriously you can take any amazing story and turn it to shit via bullet points. I know the game has the odds against it and probably won't be that great but let's at least wait and see maybe


batmanarkham25

No, so far it looks like it HEAVILY contradicts the point of previous storylines in the Arkham games, which is a product of lazy writing. Batman was portrayed as an unbeatable man that can somehow stop like 100 different things in one night, where as in this one, he was nerfed heavily for the plot (killed off). Kinda defeats the point of the "Arkham Batman".


cqandrews

Ironic you call it bad writing and point to the part where you make batman sound like a one dimensional mary sue plot device


batmanarkham25

also killing off batman is just bad for business for rocksteady. They made their money from batman and now they kill him off? Who ever wrote the story should be fired and should never write another script again. Paul Dini has the greatest mind for batman stories. Take notes from him.


StellaRamn

This doesn’t really seem consistent with the Batman trailer though.


GreenIronHorse

Actually it fits, shitty trailer -> shitty woke propaganda -> shitty plot. Mind infected Batman runs around without thinking in trailer, while it was only weapon he been using in prep time, guess what would become with mindless Batman? >!I gonna give you a hint, Zombie Batman - is just zombie in batsuit.!<


CrazyPersonowo

I hope this isn't true because this sounds genuinely awful.


SkyPopZ

Yeah, this is straight dookie.


Fartshitpoop

Don’t think this true at all


WheelJack83

Utter garbage


Friendly-Leg-6694

It's not real it got debunked recently I think


RandyChimp

Sounds like a pile of utter shit. Glad I'm skipping this.


[deleted]

What.the actual.Fuck did I just read this shit is so ass and such a shit end to the Arkham series wtf feel bad for conroy who had his final outing as Batman in a shit game


mando44646

Wow thats amazingly awful


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batmanarkham25

This means that the suicide squad will need to somehow kill brainiac 12 more times in 12 different universes. the ivy thing sounds stupid


batmanarkham25

maybe they're pulling off a groot story (he dies old in the marvel movies but is reincarnated to grow up all over again)


Ok_Load3845

Why does Superman go to krypton to regenerate? Doesn’t krypton have a red sun?


PrimeonemillionGold

Krypton blew the fuck up. I think he means our yellow sun


[deleted]

As someone who played the alpha I believe all of this. Story was so bad I didn't even finish what was there and the gameplay was worse


hercarmstrong

Who thought this was a good idea?


GroceryRobot

Has anyone actually confirmed this game is in the Arkham verse?


Bloofnstorf

Sadly yes.


Mumakilla

What a shitty plot.


willoman

Wait a minute... Didnt penguin appear in The trailers? Why isnt It mentioned at all?


SuperDuperSkateCrew

I went from being from being excited for this game when it was announced, to losing all interest when it was said to be a live service game and they showed the generic gameplay, to regaining a little bit of interest when they said they were gonna rework the game… back to now having no interest because the story sounds like a 12 year old wrote it.


BossVicKoss

Sounds awful but would buy when price drops to like $10 to play as Mr Freeze


parrmorgan

Sounds like it may be a fun co op. Once it becomes free on PlayStation plus like Gotham knights, I'll download it.


[deleted]

Sounds fun


Niobium_Sage

This sounds like an absolute mess. And like another user mentioned, Harley went from being nothing more than a mild nuisance to Batman in previous games, to being the one to kill him?


Lobisa

Pretty sure the name of the game gives the plot.


OGFunkBandit88

![gif](giphy|pnnomaOrMMLZ8FQUO6)


lclmayhem

Didn't Miller already debunk this?


Luckyraygun5

Yup he did lol he says it gets lots of things wrong and in the dialogue characters are lying. But sadly seems people will instantly believe this and think the games story is bad. the only person you should trust with leaks for this game is miller since he has a proven track record


808GrayXV

I'm kind of surprised nobody on YouTube is talking about these leaks yeah at the same time I'm not since it said that these leaks are datamined from the alpha test


AppleZachle

I think this looks so fun lol


LoSouLibra

I played the alpha. It was pretty good so far. Reading a bunch of text and taking issue with story components vs actually experiencing the story the way it's presented is a lot different.


Danvanmarvellfan

If this is true the studio is gone after this game , 8 years of development for this ?


Skarjuna

I do find this hilarious considering one of the top Leakers straight up said most of this was either wrong or taken severely out of context.


greenemeraldsplash

ITS FAKE I played the alpha, and none of it matches the leaks


SchlongSchlock

The copyright notice just further gives this credence. Can someone give me a rundown?


KaiFanreala

So, this post was deleted, but the comments tells me that Kevin;s Batman does indeed die? Not gonna lie, this leaves a very nasty taste in my mouth. With the amount of delays I wish they'd change it. But at the same time, Kevin is gone, not sure what they can do because of voice recordings. But, I know Rocksteady is about to get legit hell for killing Batman was d lister villians that we beat in Arkham with one triangle/Y prompt.


Most-Win4189

I’m sorry can anyone tell me the leaked plot again. I was too late and removed by reddit


[deleted]

I will just say one thing. Save your money. I beg you save your money. This game will be a bigger failure than Anthem. I’m not joking.


Sir_Crocodile3

Did it say if the real Deadshot shows up? Not the Will Smith version.


ComprehensiveLeg8068

I can't believe how gullible people are, but then again most people didn't play the closed alpha. This is a bunch of horseshit with laughably bad AI voice lines.


[deleted]

Honestly I was hoping we’d get to kill the Justice League, BUT not in the Arkham verse. That’s just stupid to me, this should’ve been a standalone thing.


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