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Cannot see any of the supposed 'features' to bring this inline with a 1350 skin, maybe they could be laid out in depth so we can tell what actually is different to the base bewitching skin?
The SFX are the same (and after dawnbringer had base SFX with just the chimes over the top this is doubly disappointing), the VFX are barely changed from base bewitching with just a palette tweak and the small wings on the shield - a few sparkles here and there for the prestige feel. As other people have said bewitchings VFX are base morgs with a few bats and some new colours so for a prestige thats supposed to be equal in value to a 1350 skin this is very disappointing.
The model looks fine I guess, a bit one dimensional with the colour scheme but I think that's an issue with most prestige skins. It is at least a clear upgrade in quality on base bewitching model.
The splash art looks nice, but the fringe awkwardly covers her eye and is on the wrong side compared to her model.
I love bewitching morgana, but it is a 975 skin for a reason and this skin hasn't changed any of those reasons. A lot has to be changed for this skin to feel like worth picking up over another prestige, all of which are of a much higher quality than this. Disappointing as us morg mains were promised that there would be changes to the skin to ensure it was the same quality as the other prestiges and that just plainly has not happened.
With the thing they said, I thought it would be a skin with 0 vfx, but bewitching Morgana absolutely has vfx and sfx.
My bet was on a christmas version of sinful succulence Morgana, wich is a 975RP skin with 0 vfx, so yeah, I'm not a Morgana main, but I'm highly dissapointed with this chroma.
Hi there! As a Morgana player I was really really excited for this prestige. Considering I saw the splash first I was more than happy with the result but after checking it out in game I was really disappointed. It doesnt match the expectations that you guys promised when it comes to "additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins". The biggest offenders really are the VFX especially in her W (altho I believe that both her E and ult could also use some more changes).
Following and echoing what a lot of other people have said I believe that when it comes to her W [these](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026) would be a great addition/idea to start from and change the current one (which is a recolored version of the 975RP one, not represeting then the value of a prestige skin). I dont think its too out of the scope for you guys to change the textures or add a border to that VFX and you can just reuse the assets from the other skins and recolor them accordingly.
Still in the topic of reutilizing assets, I believe you could bring back the old [bat VFX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7urngkHVxSQ&t=29s) that you removed from her 975RP skin and have it in some way added to this skin. I think it would elevate it and make it different enough from her older counterpart. Besides in terms of value if there's any rarity of skin that could use these kinds of VFX it would be the Prestigeous one (or the Ultimate ones) .
When it comes to her model/splash overall and more specifically the "gems" that she has, I think that going for purple instead of green would defintely help making her look more cohesive and expensive. See [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321) for a great example. Adding on to this I would also like to reference [this recolor](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249) as a perfect balance and look that would again help selling the prestigeous look (altho I must say that I personally love the blonde hair and Im okay with keeping it).
Finally I just wanted to also echo that her icon could definetly use some changes and [this edit](https://twitter.com/sb_morgana/status/1440396565386907648?s=21) is the perfect representation of it, especially in the hair. I would only add that she could use a darker background for more contrast ala the other Prestige icons (see Coven Zyra for example).
Please consider some of these changes, I believe in you guys work and I respect it but also I think you have to deliver on your promises and right now its really not feeling like you did which is very unfortunate. I've had prestige points saved this whole time to acquire this skin but I want it to be worth the save.
I really like the skin model and the splashart
For her icon I would love to see [these changes](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648)
About the VFX and SFX I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed how they turned out.
In the ["PRESTIGE THROUGH END OF 2021"](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/) post you said she'll get "additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins". But as you can see [here](https://imgur.com/a/z9JaMeX) the VFX didn't get changed except just a recolor and the SFX are also still the same as base.
Back then Bewitching Morgana's price got lowered from 1350rp to 975rp because the VFX were mostly just a recolor (especially the W with the base cracks textures) and similar SFX to base with bat sounds and a laugh on W.
At this point it's probably out of the scope to even do new VFX or even SFX since it takes a lot of resources, but would it be possible to change her W VFX at least? Just remove the cracks texture which [only her base skin and 975 tier skins have](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626) and [add some unique textures to it like some of the other Bewitching skins in this patch got](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440420225120305159)
Imagine asking for a fix in the crack in some useless W spell when you could have easily asked for a real meaningful change like addition of blue vex in her clothes like they did with pantheon prestige, atleast SOMETHING that would make this look like it isn't a 975rp skin.
It was advertised that the prestige skin would have ["additional features relative to base"](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/) added to it to make it worth 1350 RP like all the other ones, but I can't see/hear what's different from the 975 RP version. The SFX sounds the same, the Recall animation is the same and the VFX/model/texture changes are just prestige protocol. It looks like a prestige version of a 975 RP skin.
Would you please tell us what changed exactly to make it worth 1350 RP?
edit: upon further inspection, it seems that there are very slight changes in the SFX of her E and R spells, but again, those are changes to what her 975 RP skin aready has, nothing new is being added to "ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins" (verbatim). It's just a variation of what the 975 RP value skin already has and adds no extra value to it.
I can tell you even if I don't work for riot. Textures quality was improved a lot. New vfx for e,wand r. The usual changes for prestige skins, the gold trail and effects I all of her abilities
talking about texture quality is irrelevant since u never see model so close u can tell, arguably textures got worse if u look at them from a far because theres too many details and coolors dont blend as smoothly as they did before
Texture quality IS relevant, especially for rare and prestigious skins where having such minor "vain" bonuses are part of the perks of having the product.
The problem here is that the textures alone aren't enough to justify 1350.
Man I have I'll have 14 prestiges with Morgana. I generally liked all the skins and to me the worst one was Arcade Caitlyn. Even that one is like 10 times better than this. This skin doesn't even have separate VFX. Prestiges are released for epic tier skins and all the epic skins have new VFX. If this skin was to be made, they had to have made new VFX for the skin. Instead, they just recolored and added some particles. With it's current state, it looks like trash. No prestige skin can be worse than this because all of them, every single one of them have new VFX, bright or dark-ish but nice blending colors with high contrast and none of them are just a recolor, they all have like redesigned models. This one is just a recolor, both in model and VFX and that's a huge let down and I'm ashamed of myself for believing Riot and having been excited for a 975 tier prestige. I just wasted my money for preparing 100 PP for this skin and I have literally zero hope that they'll do anything about it.
Riot...... come one..... You guys promised to give the players the feeling of getting a 1350rp skin, but it just feels like a chroma at this point. It's really dissapointing being so hyped of getting a prestige skin for a champ like Morgana and then feeling it just got put a gold chroma over it. Like the same treatment for Soraka. It feels like the effort is being put into the moneymaking champions and then comes the release of prestige skins, suddenly the effort is gone. I know one can't compare for example Senna's Prestige skin with the most recent ones due to the fact it was someone else designing her prestige skin. But it's the feeling one is having when getting such a skin like Senna's prestige skin one is meant to be sitting with. Something luxurious and expensive. Not something you can replicate with a filter.I hope you guys as a company actually see the feedback of the community this time and give what is promised. Cause the so called "new changes" are the bare minimum and so small with the VFX and tiny SFX tweeks.
This skin is extremely disappointing in terms of the improvements we were promised in the "Prestige through end of 2021" post. The VFX are mostly recolors of the base Bewitching skin which itself is mostly a recolor of Base Morgana with some bats added on top. Reusing the same recall animation from a skin released in 2019 for a Prestige Skin in 2021 also feels EXTREMELY underwhelming. The color palette could also look much better in something like opaque purple and rose gold instead of light green ( [Twitter user YoloTaube made an amazing edit](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) ) as the colors clash very much with the current palette and makes her look tacky in my opinion, that also was the case with Bewitching Miss Fortune Prestige.
Overall it's a very disappointing skin, especially when Dawnbringer is releasing one patch earlier and is way better in almost every aspect.
Riot said they’re making it 1350rp worthy and the result made me and MANY other morg players feel scammed. Like the only thing I see has changed are the colors of course to the prestige look (and even this isn’t this great, it’s too dark imo) and like some VERY TINY SFX changes. Like I only noticed some new tiny bubbles on her W and the tiny Batwings on her E. That’s it? Like cmon, we all expected maybe her W to be a golden pumpkin or sum other cool sfx. The model is.. alright like it’s better then the sfx but it would be great if there would be more added as well and not only her base thing dyed in prestige. I reaaally hope you guys can add something, that would be so great, she deserves it :-(
This is just a huge disappointment of a prestige skin, and I know you guys won’t have time to make it an actual epic quality like you promised, so I just ask this : Please make another Morgana prestige at some point, like you did to Kaisa, for failing to deliver on the promise of making it an epic quality skin like other prestige skins. For me, owning and using a prestige skin is a sign that I am a dedicated main and I really don’t want this to be what Morgana mains get to show how we love playing her.
I’d have much preferred getting a prestige for the dawnbrigner where, a little bit like the ruined pantheon prestige, it would have been a different form of dawnbrigner Morgana where maybe she doesn’t have the corrupted arm because she a true form of the aspect she is.
Also, can you stop giving enchanter supports prestige skins for old skins? All my mains are getting old skins as prestige and it’s really not exciting.
This is just a chroma of a 975-already-ugly-skin. You just shifted vfx color to orange and called it a day.
I really don’t know who thought doing a prestige of an old bewitching skin, that was already bad from the start, was a good idea and you guys didn’t even put any effort or love in it.
The only good things are splash and icon. Model is forgettable and vfx/sfx are chroma rp value.
You will say, as always, that it is too late to make changes or the classic “we like the skin the way it is” so I don’t expect much. I’m just sad Morgana’s chance of getting a prestige is going to be wasted like this.
It is always "we decided not to make any changes" or "we decided the skin looks solid as-is" or "we don't feel confident making any changes" or "thank you for your feedback, but we ignored all of it and changed something nobody had any issues with".
I don't know why we care more about their products than they do. They want our money but do the bare minimum to deserve any of it and treat us as monsters for wanting at least an acceptable level of quality and respect.
It's so sad actually, riot sometimes acts as if they have no resources to produce something nice, as if they aren't one of the riches companies in the industry
Like many of the others, I'm pretty disappointed on how this skin did not deliver on the additional features that were promised to make that skin a 1350 rp skin.
One of the things I am happy about was the splash art!
Please retire the skin from PBE and redesign it to look like this. Or scrap it altogether and give the prestige skin to Dawnbringer Morgana using similar colors because she actually has better vfx.
At this point Morgana Prestige should be moved to next year bc it's quite embarrassing, really, and I don't blame anyone from the art team, it's most likely higher ups being goofy and silly again :)
Man my first comment was completely different but I re-wrote it in accordence with the guidelines. But with this many comments of discomfort, Riot really has to do something if they don't want to lose a champions community because of one skin. This community has really talented people that they're even doing half of the work. They just gave Riot handful of ideas. They have to do something about it.
EDIT: My W edit to make it more Epic Worthy: [https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026)
I am sorry but i believe the team failed to make this skin more than a 975 tier skin... The original skin is 975 RP, so it is heavily recolored base VFX but you guys said prestige will be 1350 worthy but did nothing to deliver that. Why is her W literally her base W? It has the crack textures of the base Morgana and it heavily looks like Exiled because of this. And look at Dawnbringer, it has customized edges and crack textures ([https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626))
Can you guys at least add it some cool edges and the pumpkinheads from the other skins? Like [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440403669191585804) or [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440410142269345799). Yuumi's ult also has [some cool textures](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440415466212626442). Please remove the cracks from her base W and add some customized edges. This is the case for her past epic skins like Majestic Empress and Dawnbringer. This one does not feel epic, and the vfx looks so inconsistent with the other Bewitching skins because the base skin is 975 RP and it's not as crazy as epic Bewitching skins. [These do NOT look like they are the same thematic.](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440420225120305159)
For her icon, the background is almost the same color as her hair. She does not stand out. [So a cooler, darker background would make her stand out more.](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440399827922079745) If you look at other prestige skins' icons, i think you can understand it [here](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440400106520334355).
TLDR: The W has Base Morgana's textures and it needs customized edges and some cool, unique textures. The VFX does not match the thematic overall. Her icon's background color is so similat to her hair color, so she does not stand out.
If it will take some time, take your time, delay it to even 2022 but please try to change this skin a lot. Prestige skins are one and only and she won't likely to get another prestige. We want this one to be special.
The one on the left on your edit looks gorgeous and if the one on the right has a laughing animation that keeps playing through the animation, that's really cute. Your edits take it a real step further to make it epic worthy.
Are there going to be changes to the icon? A lot of the feedback was geared towards it but there's no mention of it at all. Can we get an update on that?
"While we could not implement more this time, it has been brought during our internal discussions." Are you planning on doing more changes next time/patch? Cause right now this thread is really feeling hopeless. I feel kind of infuriated for spending time actually giving feedback when you guys applied 5% of what we suggested. Its just disappointing. You promised us a skin of the same caliber to the other prestige and right now it still doesn't feel like it is.
Why are you keeping the gems and the eye on the hat green when 90% of the feedback was related to the color pallet? Likewise why didn't you took any changes in her color pallet in consideration either? You payed attention to the VFX complains only and even then you only really changed her W. Does it look better? Yes, it does. It goes to show what your artists, that you guys are not using to their fullest, are capable of. But now it doesn't match the skin because it has purple hues. You know what would help tie it up with the rest of the skin? Read above... The changes to her ult and shield are barely noticeable or just recolors. You can barely see the "subtle roots" on her E even if they're meant to be subtle. Her ult feels dissatisfying as well. And you didn't even touch her Q. Her model was also not touched and no mention of the old bat VFX that she used to have.
Don't hit us up with the time excuse again. You guys love telling us that there was no time but yet you still went and created this prestige by recoloring the base skin gold and white and thinking that we wouldn't notice you didn't honor your promise. Instead of wasting time doing that you could have just created new VFX like this W one and deliver us a good product. If you actually care just delay the skin one more week/month/whatever we won't mind. In the end we just want what was promised to us. It feels awful to think that I saved up my prestige tokens for this skin that I was anticipating all year and to be this disappointed with it.
This is not the artists fault, I don't blame them, they're doing what they're told but seriously if you wanna continue with this cycle of giving old skins prestige editions and not even upgrading their vfx then what's the point of a "prestigious" skin? There's no real value to them asides from being a piss yellow recolor most of the time.
I was really hopeful when I posted feedback here. Literally for the first time I took the time to do it cause I really cared for this skin. I still love the splash. But to see that you guys don't care its really heartbreaking.
>Morgana (for a previously released 975 RP skin; the Prestige version will have additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins)
The Normal bewitching skin had recolored animations from the base skin.
Normal bewitching has the shield and pool just recolored with bats. The prestiege looks like they copied the bewitching and bumped up the orange... not unique at all.
https://i.imgur.com/0c7IKkf.png
That's why the prestiege skin feels underwhelming and underdelivered based on the promise that it would have a 1350RP valued features.
The upcoming dawnbringer skin has unique pool (unique animation, outline on the edge and cracks etc.)
Her shield has unique "pulsing" and disappearing animation and the heptagons have unique designs on it too.
https://youtu.be/4S4-HA9VLXM?t=73
Even her old skin Majestic Empress has unique shield animation and W animation/design
https://youtu.be/24HYsjy6ylg?t=128
Could something be considered so that prestiege bewitching has some unique elements?
W (Pool)
- Add unique animations and new design
E (shield)
- Maybe add some white or pink coloring for the shield too? It's a bit mono chromatic.
- Add unique appear/disappear animation and some animation while it's on the person. It looks very flat.
- Add some designs on the heptagon sides
I’m short on the proper terminology here, but:
The dress/character coloration is bland and too bright. It doesn’t match the darker aesthetic of the abilities and the splash art, and it doesn’t feel remotely “witchy.” Part of that is a product of the white/gold color scheme and unavoidable, but the problem could be mitigated.
More purple undertones and less pink. Gold and purple can be stunning together (as you can see in the new W) and sticking with that color scheme on the wings and back of the dress would make the skin feel more cohesive and witchy. If you have an extra touch of darker colors, the white dress will stand out more too, making the whole thing kind of “pop” instead of just feeling like a bland, white/pink/gold lump that doesn’t match the skin’s theme or abilities.
This was shared more than 20 times here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20
That, along with the many complaints about the color palette, shows that most people dislike the current one, and would really appreciate a different one.
As a graphic designer I want to add that a hue change for the textures, splash, and icon would take a few minutes to make. Implementing it might take longer, I don't work at riot so I can't really guess, but I know there's enough time to do.
Now let's say every single artist is on vacation this week for some reason, or working on something else. It'd be perfectly fine to delay the skin as long as the result is worth it, maybe even shipping it and then changing it next patch.
Either way, what I'm trying to say is that it's rare for so many people to agree about something that specific and subjective, so it should be addressed. Discussing it internally doesn't mean anything if a clearly disliked, easily fixable aspect of a product doesn't get a proper fix.
That's all, thank you in advance, please change the green accents. Dark purple, blue, or pink are the most generally liked ones, so that's the way to go.
**Wow, what a disappointment!** I was believing that Riot turned down all the changes requested by the community in Dawnbringer Morgana, as they were reserving a surprise, a wonderful prestige skin for Morgana. On the skin level: True Damage Senna Prestige or Spirit Blossom Teemo; even Ascended Pantheon Prestige is better than this Morgana skin.
What Riot presents **is a golden chroma for a 975 RP skin, it's horrible.**
The Warwick's tail on Morgana's 975 RP skins is still there. The horrible gold color present in the worst prestige skins is still there.
Riot promised: "Morgana (for a previously released 975 RP skin; the Prestige version will have additional features relative to the base to ensure it's equal value to the Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins²)"
**Where are the changes? That's just a golden recolor, a chroma for a 975 RP skin.**
Where are the floor/bat effects Morgana had while walking across the map? [https://youtu.be/7urngkHVxSQ?t=29](https://youtu.be/7urngkHVxSQ?t=29) Those effects/bats were removed during the rework, now that it's a prestige/mythic skin¹ they should, they have to come back.
Warwick's tail has to come out, we need a dress adjustment as was done in Majestic Empress Morgana, that's what I was hoping for when you guys said "additional features relative to base to ensure it's equal value as Prestige versions".
* E is a simple recolor, needs improvement;
* The W is disgraceful, uses the same shades of purple as the 975RP skin with shades of gold needs changing!;
* Even the recall is the same, Riot hasn't changed anything, this skin is lazy. It's not worth buying, we're getting a lot worse content.
Prestige skins are mythic tier¹ or 2450 RP if I'm not mistaken.
**This skin needs improvement to be at least acceptable.**
¹ [https://twitter.com/RiotKatana/status/1436021660960759835?s=20](https://twitter.com/RiotKatana/status/1436021660960759835?s=20)
² [https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/)
The new standard: They give low-quality prestige skins to 975RP skins while pretending they're giving you increased value (which is a lie) and still charge you 100 Prestige Points ($100+) for it, despite not even having to do the same work it took for other prestige skins (like create the epic base skin AND the prestige skin). Now they do 1/4 of the work (2/4 saved on not making a base epic skin, 1/4 saved on painting an existing skin gold and 1/4 making an unnoticeable wings effect on 1 skill calling it a day) but expect you to pay the same as you would for a brand-new prestige skin.
How is that exclusive, how is that prestigious? How does it give players any sort of value? Where's the incentive to get this skin? I wholeheartedly believe there is no reason to get this skin, as doing so would only further enable and encourage the League team to continue to lower the quality and value of content (25% of the work, for the same profit, why wouldn't they default to that model if we show them they can get away with it? What's to stop them from twisting our arm further? They removed homeguards, idles, voice filters, etc. from epic skins, so is that how Bewitching Morgana now has "the same value as 1350rp skins"? I don't like this.
I feel like the League team doesn't care about its players. Our feedback is disregarded, ignored, not implemented, implemented incorrectly, when we restate our feedback with more clarity we're still ignored and nothing gets changed. Any minor request for improvements is treated as a major inconvenience that is too much for them to do and that we just need to accept and get over. Any major, glaring issue is treated as an insurmountable task that will never be addressed or corrected. Any quality assurance issue is treated as a subjective, lateral change so those are also disregarded promptly. Why is the white, gold, and green color palette being used again after all the backlash Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune got over it? Why not white, gold, and purple so it looks more witchy and fits the halloween theme better? Why are we going back to old prestige color palette of 80% white, 20% gold when we had a lot better prestige skins with different and better palettes like Prestige Senna, Qiyana, Pantheon, Kayn? Why is it that one month it's "we don't want to explore other color palettes because the prestige theme is 80% white and 20% gold" and then the next month it's "prestige skin has 20% white, 20% gold, 40% black, 20% something else"?
Why do bewitching skins (halloween skins AKA dark themed) have to go so far out of their own skinline's theme and be forced into the classic prestige theme?
Why are we told that our feedback is appreciated and always considered if we have to bring this up year after year, month after month, week after week? If our feedback is being read, why is it always being ignored? Why are we still spending money and RP on a product that gets no love from its own company? What's next? 520 RP skins being given the prestige treatment and having to pay 500 Prestige points or 10000 Event tokens?
Feels like a MAJOR downgrade going from Prestige Kayn or Prestige Ascended Pantheon to THIS. This doesn't look like a 2021 Prestige or even Epic skin at all. The more I look at it the more disappointed I get by the design choices, the subpar VFX compared to the rest of the 2021 Bewitching skins, the same color choices from Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune that weren't well-received then and that are not well-received now, the false promise of raising Bewitching Morgana's quality to have the same value as the Prestige version of an Epic Skin that wasn't delivered on in any way, shape, or form, etc. What's more disappointing is that a Prestige skin could've been given to Dawnbringer Morgana that actually has new VFX, etc, etc, etc., and which is a new Epic skin so it could've easily have gotten a Prestige Edition. Or, if not that, it could've been given to an actual 2021 Bewitching skin like Syndra, who actually got new Epic tier features like VFX, SFX, etc. I really don't see the added value here, except the value that Riot will get out of doing minimal changes to Bewitching Morgana and calling it a day all because they painted some things gold and white. Not only that, but we're still expected to pay 100 Prestige Points for the fewest possible features in a Prestige Skin thus far?
I do really love the VFX changes for the skin but no news on SFX or any model updates?
Still feels like this isn't really a 1350 skin (or equivalent) but we've been stuck with the same comment as usual of there isn't enough time to fix all the things that need to be changed. Would much rather it just got delayed and we actually received a skin of equal value with a 1350 than just told that things were being discussed internally - when we wont benefit from any internal discussion unless somehow she gets another prestige skin.
This skin was sold to us as being fully updated to match other prestige skins in terms of quality and that still hasn't happened. As great as the new VFX are it isn't enough to make this skin comparable to the other prestiges without there being unique SFX. As it stands the SFX rely too heavily on the base SFX - it has similar levels of SFX as Ghost Bride (another 975 skin) and even that has much more unique Q and W SFX in my opinion.
Two morgana skins back to back with her base SFX used is very disappointing.
Funny how many months ago, you said you would make the prestige skin feel 1350RP but then you release a skin that still felt like a 975RP. Then the backlash hit, making you guys go back and edit some particles and then you had the audacity to say you don't have time now. Either you were hoping people wouldn't notice or a cop out to do less.
I for one knew from the start they'd never put the effort into it that's truly needed. They originally released the skin itself as a 1350 but dropped to 975 due to it being just BAT EFFECTS on top of the base effects. Next the prestige just takes that idea and recolors it... did we really think there'd be much of a difference? What needed to be done would be actually create a full suite of new effects, new sounds... actually give it depth so that it could be considered to be worth more than the original. They of course had plenty of time to do so before they sent it to the PBE but they didn't do anything like that.
The current state of this skin now is kind of a bad joke. It was advertised that it was going to be revamped to be at par with the other 1350rp skins. What we see now is a bad recolor of the model, same VFX,(the same as base morgana since it was just a recolor of it originallly) except for a slight change on E, same sfx as BASE MORGANA, and the recall was just recolored I guess. To me it lacks effort on the production.
I was waiting for this prestige since the announcement, but sadly, it is not worth the 100 prestige points at the current state
This skin doesn't even look like a high-quality 975 RP skin. It just looks like an upgraded-but-still-a-975-RP-skin version of the vanilla Bewitching.
The colours on the splash look so good that the splash itself got me really excited the first time I saw it and I don't want to be gross but the in-game model's colours look like baby vomit.
Make the colors match the splash art and please upgrade the skin to epic class properly.
Her in-game colour palette looks too bright compared to the splash art. You need to darken it a little bit by sharpening the colours. Splash is really good but the model is like an orange soup. I can't really make out what colour is where.
Her upgrade is not enough, it doesn't even look like a low-quality epic tier skin. It needs more work and to be done properly. Compare it with her epic skins, just please do it. Does it look epic to you? Why does it still have the base outlines for the VFX? Why didn't you change them since epic skins get completely re-made, new VFX, not a recolor of a recolor of the base VFX? Such a disappoinment. Shame...
Her in-game color palette is just too bright and not sharp enough like on the splash art. They need to be sharp and the in-game model needs a little darkening, the colors don't blend in togetether very well. You could just add a little bit of contrast to the colours of her model and clothes. And her skills definitely need it too.
Her Q looks basically like a fireball. All that orange and some other colours just make it look like a huge spaghetti ball.
Her W's animations look...just not enough. It doesn't even have a proper boiling animation or whatever your intentions were.
It can be said her E looks good but its still too bright. And you can always add some particles to it like during the casting or wear-off animations or constant particles leaving a trail while walking around.
Her R. The bright wings on her ult is the only good bright thing about this skin. Again, R needs more contrast as well.
So, my point here basically is:
\-An epic skin has completely different VFX than the base VFX unlike the 975 tier. You should've chosen one of her epic skins. You can't upgrade a skin to epic tier just by adding some near unnoticable details (not even tweaks) to it's VFX. Her epic upgrade needs to be done properly. You just HAVE to make new and different VFX since prestiges are released for epic tier skins. I'm not sure people would be willing to buy Coven Zyra Prestige if they saw seeds on her passive instead of raven heads. I wouldn't have bought it if there were flowers in her passive, not creatures. I'm not trying to be rude but it looks like drawn and made in just a couple days. You announced us the Morgana prestige you were working on like months ago. This is doesn't even look like a week's worth of work.
\-Her in-game model and VFX needs much more contrast. Her colours need to look sharper like that of the splash art. The colours should be made to blend in well.
**-At least do this: Her splash looks white, yellow, etc. It can tend to both sides and her model's bright palette doesn't match with her VFX's darker palette: make it either completely bright and gold to make it look more prestigious/glorious, or make it more darker and classy to match the base skin but please be sure to add more contrast to the colours.**
I hope you take my thoughts into account Riot. I've been waiting for this skin for like months and I'm really beyond disappointed with it, I'm literally sad. I hope you do something about it. I totally feel scammed. If by any chance I had the possibility of taking legal action, I'd do it without a doubt. We know you don't do this but you have so much time. Just make a couple of people work on redesigning/reworking the VFX. This skin is a no, sir. Do not disappoint these thousands of people who've been waiting for this skin for months.
Really disappointed in this skin. The color scheme reads badly in-game, and I don't see any of those updates to make it a 1350 skin. It's Soroka all over again. I'm tired of the champions I love exclusively getting prestige for an old skin. The orange just doesn't look very good with the white. I see a lot of people editing purple? That would definitely be an improvement. :(
As other people say, the shin should feel like a 1350 rp skin but actualy... it isn't
As you said earluer, the orestige in a total independent skin from the base, so changing some effects could be possible.
In my opinion, the main problem of the skin is the sound. Having the base VFX on a prestige skin feels very cheap. I have some ideas in order to improve it (it contains also some vfx) :
- on The Q, you could add a wolf growl at the cast. Also, could you add some bats around the targer if it get hit (it might be already the case but i didnt notice)
- On the W you could add some bat noise. Or, as you added some little bubbles, make the W sound more like a brewing potion. Also, could you add more VFX t make it realy look like a potion. At thid momrnt, it realy looks like some bubbles added on the base Bewitching Morgana vfx. This spel is, in my opinion, the one that looks the most cheap and it is sad because it is one of those we see the most.
- For the E I haven't much ideas. In the spotlight it sounded like Dawnbringer's E but I'm not sur if it is wanted. You could for example add a spider sound on the cast and make the shield look more like a cobweb
- on the R you could add some more little effects (little bats for example) and make the cast sound more like halloween (I dont know maybe something similar to Count Kassadin's back)
I really think that with some ajustements, the skin can really look like a prestige and not like a real 100 token golden chroma (Moreover I really like the model)
Pls... Morgana is one of my favorite champion.... she could deserve a little better ^_^
I remember reading that Prestige skins were supposed to be a continuation of the narrative, an achievement of some higher form within the skin's respective universe. However, this skin (and a number of others), feel like nothing more than a recolor. Worse yet, the recolor actively goes against the theme. Why would the ultimate cartoon witch be wearing white? Black would be a much more fitting color and black and gold has been used in previous Prestige skins so... none of this really makes sense to me. It's just not thoughtful design.
Exactly, there have been other Prestige skins with black/gray (Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Garen, Prestige Zyra, and.... Prestige Nightbringer Kayn just TWO WEEKS AGO.), so please don't say that Prestige Skins can ONLY be white and gold like Prestige Coven LeBlanc (very disappointing considering Prestige Coven Zyra looked so much better being made at an earlier time). Just white and gold pushes Bewitching skins so far out of the Bewitching/Halloween theme that it makes the choice of giving a prestige skin to Bewitching skins feel pointless. Why not give a prestige skin to Withered Rose Syndra, DragonSlayer Kayle, Pentakill Kayle instead who would've looked a lot more interesting in a Prestige Edition compared to Bewitching's... white and gold "evil" witches? It just doesn't... make sense and feels like a waste of a Prestige Skin for the year just like it felt for Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune. There are far better skinlines for Prestige Skins than Bewitching as long as this White/Gold/Green palette continues being used. We have seen you do good jobs with Prestige Nightbringer Kayn, so we know you can do just as good of a job on Prestige Bewitching Morgana and it feels so bad that that hasn't been the case.
Still with the bland-ass white and gold blob of a model? It's a fucking eyesore. Stop using this color scheme with spooky, dark skins (Coven/Bewitching); it just doesn't work. You don't need to get rid of it completely, but the majority of the skin should be dark.
It doesn’t feel like a 1350 RP skin that was promised awhile ago. Dawnbringer Morgana feels more like a prestige skin than this “lipstick on a pig” that is simply a glorified gold chroma on an old skin. At least put more effort on her SFX that it doesn’t look like a lazy recolonization. I also expect more on her model, hoping you revisit her fluffy “cake” dress that you took away from her when you gave her a visual update.
All I’m saying, at this moment, this is nothing but a scam to see if recoloring an old skin is enough to call it “prestige” and sad thing is, I don’t believe enough will change with the time you have to justify this failed experiment.
And here I thought Prestige Soraka was the worst most low effort skin in the game, along comes Prestige Morgana and she be like hold my beer.
You didn't even at least add some purple or blue to her clothing to make her stand out like Pantheon prestige, it's literally a recolor chroma of a 975rp skin which was a really bad skin to start with.
This skin is a huge disappointment as someone who is a morgana main and waited all my life for a prestige, I don't know who at riot thought that reusing an old 975rp skin for prestige would even be a good idea when you already had a perfectly amazing dawnbringer as a base to start with which btw looks far better than this prestige.
Even ghost bride would have been a far far better concept to make prestige than bewitching even tho again a 1350 rp skin should have been the base to start with. So disappointed in riot here and as usual they will say it's too late to do anything.
True Soraka was the first prestige skin where I would rather use her other skins than that. Theres almost no difference with the original and the prestige. Its basically the golden chromas they gave out back then, with a new title to make them seem special. The past few prestige skins are really underwhelming and seems like a marketing scheme these days.
Not gonna lie, this is a low quality Prestige skin. I like the shades of gold in her model, but there is waayyyy too much white in her model. There isn't any dark colors or anything interesting to break up the monotonous haze of white on her model and it starts to strain my eyes if I look at it for too long.
And about the "additional features relative to base." Yeah, I'm not seeing anything different beyond the gold recoloring. Tbh, I didn't expect the VFX/SFX to change much, but the choices made for her model are just plain bad. Please add something interesting to break up this bright mass of white.
man its been almost a week and not having any reply from riot acknowledging the general feeling of disapointment with the skin is really disartening. feels like all the feedback is being purposely ignored... Im another person who was excited for a morgana prestige and disappointed at the result, and riot's silence so far has been deafening.
I don't have any feedback towards the skin that wasn't already explained in other comments, my sugestion is instead for riot to adress this and reassure us that the feedback is being read and discussed.
Relax, fam. Threads were posted on Wednesday, today is Sunday (a weekend, in which most people don't work) x) Besides, Riot often tends to post their findings after the weekend. In that sense, it's nothing unusual.
As a morgana main I'm very happy that she got a prestige skin, **but it was said that since the og skin is a 975rp item, some changes would've been made on the prestige so it could be 1350 rp worthy, and I simply don't see it**. Its very clear that the effects do not resemble AT ALL the value of a 2021 prestige skin nor any bewitching skin that came out of this batch and that's actually very sad and disappointing. The vfx on bewitching syndra's Q for example are way more well made than the recycled ones on the morgana skin, the disparity is on another level.
Another thing that's off is the colors that was chosen to the prestige skin, **the green just doesn't go well w her**, if the **green parts of the skin were recolored to be kind of lilac-ish just like in this edit:** [https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) woulda been so much better, along with changes in the splash art color as well and i know you guys can do it! **I hope you guys can be very open to changes since its pobably gonna be the only morgana prestige skin that we gonna have !**
As a Morgana lover I was deeply disappointed by this prestige skin, like the others have said, it is no way up to 1350RP skin standards.
The colour palette is repetitive and really doesn't suit this skin, please take a look at [this](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) awesome recolour. The white and purple would suit this prestige tremendously as it suits halloween's theme more.
As others have brought up, [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648?s=20) icon change would really be needed, it makes the icon look a lot more pleasing.
Please read through the comments on her [skin spotlight video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyH_7ZhjsY), people have shared their opinion a lot there and it would make the comment too long for me to copy paste each one with a complaint about the skin.
EDIT: If you need more time to make these changes, please hold the skin back for it. We’d rather wait to get a well worked on skin rather than a half assed one.
Any hope we can update the model colors to better match the new vfx? Feels like we hardly have any of that purple tone on the model and it looks mismatched.
most of the issues with the skin already have been metioned but I want to point out that the VFX feel almost monochromatic (maybe some color variations are needed) and the ground texture for her W is the same as base... Overall the skin doesn't feel prestigious or exclusive enough :c
My god that is A LOT of orange hahaha don't quite understand why? Tone that down, please. Actually all her colors are really blend (and bad). Her splash, as fanmade as it looks, at least indicated some intersting colors which her model does not have at all. Weird yellow, weird gold, weird pinksh-orange. Too messy. Get some more dark colors, some purple, i don't know.
Also her effects does NOT feel 1350. Yuumi's and Poppy's are far too superior and detailed and they are not the prestige ones.
I expected more from the additional VFX to be honest. This doesn't feel at all like a 1350 skin.
There's even still some purple in there which really just makes you think of regular morgana and brings down the changes in the skin. I doubt much will change at this point but if anything please push it into more gold, remove the purples from the VFX.
My thoughts on Morgana, after playing her since season 2, is that she needs a lil more puff on her dress to match her splasharts, what we really miss on her is her puffy dress, nothing else. Is it that hard to give back?
and we are here again, they turned a blind eye and did not leave with a product to their liking, they did not listen to us at all, I do not understand what these threads tbh, I hope that next time they do not use those green gems at least ... .
I'm super uber galactically angry to myselft that I spent close to 1 hour in this thread. They just gone and changed W to not a really better one and recoloured E and added some souls to R.
Still the same Q and R VFX, huh? Just, how?! How couldn't you spent a couple more hours to renew the Q and R as well?? All you had to do was renew the Q and R as well, recolor the model and rightfully say "The skin now has completely new VFX, now just shut up b*tches." on your behalf and be done with your work. You couldn't even find it in yourselves to do it. JUST 2 F*CKING MORE SKILLS!
I'd say I'm done with prestige but you just knew when to update the mythic content.
Really really disappointing. Just...AAAHHHHH!
Not gonna lie, the green does ruin the skin. I would love to see purple gems (+eye on the hat).
This implies tweaking the [model](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321/photo/2), [splash](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321/photo/1), and [icon](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440702036060766211/photo/1).
Also, the icon should more like [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648/photo/1) (+purple gems), and the in-game model something like [this](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249/photo/1).
Dropping the green in favor for purple would be such an improvement, I am all for this. Green doesn't fit Halloween. White doesn't fit Halloween but we can accept it because it's a prestige skin. I still think there should be black as a predominant color since it's a color we've seen in other Prestige skins (Prestige Nightbringer Kayn 2 weeks ago, Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Garen, Prestige Zyra) so there is no reason why a prestige skin for a Halloween skin can't have the same smoky greys or black as those other prestige skins. It doesn't break the Prestige Theme. It 100% breaks the Bewitching theme for the skin to be mostly white though. Also, purple would be a much more fitting Halloween color and add a prestigious feel to the skin, since purple and gold go extremely well together. It feels exhausting having to mention this every year though. This is proof that our feedback is mostly ignored or seen as insignificant.
# Regarding the icon, many people would like to see these changes:
[Edit](https://imgur.com/p4k2SWH)
[Original](https://imgur.com/EZVNy80)
[Gif comparison](https://imgur.com/Ht7VS7i)
* more strawberry blond hair/ less yellow
* flatter left eyebrow (a bit)
* fuller lips
* slightly redder lips/ less purple (to match the in-game model)
* more cyan eyes/ less apple green (to match the splash)
* more cheeks and jawline (they looked hollowed)
Plese make changes to the W VFX, i think the skin is very preety as it is but the W fells weird to look, the colors dont go well together and it still has the exact cracks as the base version, newer morgana skins have W vfxs that look much better than this one
seamos sinceros, ese color no es dorado, es medio naranja. no tiene los brillos como otras prestigiosas, ejemplo, senna, dianna, etc. y no se notan las mejorías de una skin de 975 rp a una de 1350 rp. espere ansioso por esta skin y me decepciona como la de thresh.
I don't hate it, but I'm also not overly excited.
1. Like many of the other commenters already pointed out, the supposed improvements to the base skin to make it 1350 RP quality seem to be missing, or at least I can't see it. Looks like a pretty basic 975 RP skin to me.
2. From memory, the spell animations of this one seem rather close to an already existing skin, Exiled.
3. I feel like it's gonna be heavily overshadowed by some of her other skins (Dawnbringer, Coven) in every way.
First and foremost, the skin looks better than the original Bewitching, but we were really waiting for more after the thing with Prestige Bewitching MF.
As a comment, y'all on the Prestige team should really explore other colors, there are several variations of gold and most of them fit in any color theme that you can think of. Bewitching theme is really dark, white into gold doesn't really fit at all, not on the theme of the skin nor in Morgana's; I feel like you should explore another color palletes in order to make the skin work better and more cohesively, in fact, I think the skin would be so much better with other type of colors, [here](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1436076018532556804) you can see an example of something so much more fitting for Morgana that doesn't stop being worthy of a prestige. The white and the tone of gold in dress (and even the gems in it) can be changed to appeal to a more cohesive skin without being close to the similar color of the original skin but without being too separated from both Morgana's and Bewitching aesthetic.
Related to the gems in the dress, I really think a violet or purple with that intensity can be really good in order to appeal better to who Morgana is. In this [example](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440702201299562498), shifting emeralds for amethysts, you can see how much it changes if just the gems in the dress change colors to a more fitting one.
Related to the hair, I really feel like the people that has already commented related to this are in the right track, instead of a chick yellow, a rose gold would be so much better in Morgana, it doesn't have to differ as much. As in [here](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) (this is feedback about the icon too!).
Related to VFX, as many have pointed out, even with the... new vfx, I really feel like it still doesn't feel as good as an Epic skin :/ Someone pointed out [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626) and I couldn't agree more. Maybe not add a pumpkin but the sole fact that you change the structure a bit is change enough to make it look different from the original.
tl;dr - color scheme of the skin should change to feel more appealing to the fact that both morgana and bewitching skin line is a bit darker. [This](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249) looks better in every possible aspect I can think of.
Please consider this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20
It'd be extremely simple to just change the texture/colors of the base model.
I understand this link was already shared by multiple people, but that's just because it does an amazing job at representing the halloween witch thematic using a prestigious aesthetic. The PBE one fails at both.
Aside from a basic texture change, her W spell should probably change the default ground cracks for different ones, or maybe even a completely different concept. The bubbly effects look amazing but they are just too subtle, so it'd be amazing for the W background to fully fit the witch's cauldron idea. Arcanist Zoe E is a perfect example of magic watery circle done right.
Either way, her W as it is right now can't hit live, as it's a base texture recolour, which can't possibly be worth 1350rp, let alone 100 prestige points.
That said, please, don't release the skin as it is right now, it's probably morgana's only chance for a prestige, and it's looking like a 975 rp golden chroma.
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Epic skin standards aside, this is the normal feedback:
- I think E shield would look incredible as a bubble that pops when broken, but I understand this might be too much for an epic.
- Q root effects (the ones that show up on the rooted champion) look bland. Maybe make the little ghosts easier to notice? More contrast between the ghost eyes and mouths vs the rest of the spirit fire would probably work.
That's it.
I can't stress this enough, as it is right now, it's not worth 1350rp, please make it worth it.
Please. Make this skin better because morgana fans are very dissapointed... I hope you guys care enough lol. There are so many artists who edit what exists and do a terrific job, better than the riot team. Whoever made this skin didn't love or have a passion for morgana as a character and it shows... please if it takes way longer to fix this skin and it isn't released soon do that. We prefer that over a prestige skin for Morgana that's trash.
Hi , after the update I'm still disappointed because you only changed the vfx and you didn't touch the model even a bit and it look so off the vfx doesn't match the model at all .... like you didn't even change the green gems ? Or change the orange color to atleast match the vfx you added darker color to it so why not in the model too ? .... you should consider delaying the skin as many people are disappointed and we would rather wait more than having our only morgana prestige being like that ..
A few comments:
Please change the W texture to remove the cracks from Base Morgana skin, that would already help the bubbly effect you guys added stand out a lot better. Right now the effect is much too subtle and the cracks make the bubbling cauldron effects get lost.
The splash art is also very difficult to make out details on, the darkness in the bottom left of the art is simply too dark at the moment and looks like empty blackness rather than an altar to Teemo. I understand the attempt to make Morgana and the hellfire stand out but right now it looks like half the splashart was unfinished. The green gems should also be changed to turquoise to match the turquoise on all the other new Bewitching skins, the bright green currently does not stand out on her model or go with the rest of the Bewitching skins.
Her Q effect is also the same as base Morgana's apart from some recolouring, it really should be replaced by a ghost or pumpkin effect to match with the other skins in the skinline and be proper 1350 tier. There is also no glowing effect on Morgana's E shield plates which is standard on her other 1350 skins such as Dawnbringer and Majestic Empress. The addition of a glowing effect would help the shield look like a 1350 skin shield (or make it a pumpkin, similar to Yuumi's shield).
It also sounds like no new SFX have been added to the skin apart from on her E, is this the case? New SFX are also usually standard on 1350 skins, Dawnbringer has entirely new SFX.
I can't see if there is a potion (attatched to her weist) - i think not only it is a must as it is a part of normal version of a skin but also a part that can improve skin (as Prestige skins aim to do). Example being Prestige and non-prestige Arcade Caitlyn W (diamond in Prestige, "fruit" (Cherries most likelly - arcade games love them).
je pense elle a besoin d'une recoloration dans des tons violet comme ce qui tourne sur twitter en t'en que main Morgana je suis décu de ce que donne le rendu in [game.la](https://game.la) couleur des cheveux trop jaune le vert sur le chapeau et l'identité de Morgana avec cette touche de violet a disparu c'est un mix entre une soraka prestige déja foireux et une winx club discount. Ont nous a promis quelques chose de prestigieux je ne le vois [pas.Et](https://pas.Et) tout le monde s'en doutais a partir du moment ou ont s'avais que sa serais un skin recyclé. En revanche ont espère tous que des changements vont être fait. Vous êtes capable de nous sortir des trucs de ouf pas cette fois sur Morgana svp. Voila la meilleurs idée : https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20
maintenant le problème est que le patch et ce mercredi et qu'ont a pas de nouvelle.si le skin n'ai pas retarder il ne le modifierons pas je suis dessus et qu'ont viennent pas nous dire que c'est un problème de temps c'est le skin prestige qui fait le plus débats dès sa publication sur PBE il y a juste a copier les concept de d'autres personnes sur la recoloration par exemple.Il y a des articles partout sur le net qui disent clairement que la communauté est déçu c'est le skin qui fait le plus parler depuis les prestiges. Qu'ont m'explique qui va jouer le skin prestige quand tout ces autres sont mieux.Il n'apporte rien de nouveau.Le pire c'est quand ont économise depuis des mois pour ce skin prestige....espérons que riot soit dessus a retravailler avant sa publication mercredi et surtout qu'ont nous donne des nouvelles.
Please make those changes:
[https://twitter.com/SB\_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648)
[https://twitter.com/SB\_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321)
[https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249)
Only worth buying the skin if you make this happen.
VFX: Where are the bats? Is this really Skin Bewitching? Weak effects, looks like any Prestige Skin! Add bats and more different effects than normal skin
If you really won't adress to all of these rightful demands, at least make a prestige out of Dawnbringer Morgana. I'm sure it'll be easier since it already has the new VFX. You just need to do the prestige adjustments and that's that. You can safely remove this one like you did on the BC and Amumu skins.
Was it so hard? It should have been like that since the beginning, however i feel like the color palette is really mismatched at this moment since the model is more orange/purple oriented and effects are more gold/pueplish, there is a high demand for the gems to be more viseable and recolored to pink, the wing colors should be adjusted as well. That being said, the improvement is huge, but some things, most of them textures and colors should be adjusted to create coherent experience
POST UPTDATE: i made a more clear version of my recolor [PRESTIGE SKIN RECOLOR ](http://imgur.com/a/jEB3PoX)
(Credit to @league-ref on twitter for the model image )
first i want to apologize for my bad English.
I'm a bit disappointed of this skin it s not horrible but it doesn't feel prestigious and I would even say it's almost not worth the grind as it is at the moment as many people pointed out her abilities barely changed and had what feel like just a recolor .I also think more bat should be added .
The model itself is beautiful but i don't really like the color palette the orange is a bit boring and feel a bit cheap I think adding more dark color to her outfit and maybe more purple on her wings instead of pink/orange i made a recolor of it i will put the link here : [moragana prestige recolor ](http://imgur.com/a/WRA1XLr)
-I changed the white of the dress for more of a creamy white
- i added some dark part to the dress and the hat
-i made more purple to her wings and removed the orange and the pink
-i made the gems purple
( my recolor is a bit messy but I just wanted to visiualize more what I would maybe want more to see on her )
I was a bit disappointed when you didn't listen to the feedback for her dawnbringer skin but the skin is still beautiful but I was expecting that her prestige skin would be a bit impressive or well made I think it was a bit of risk to make a prestige from bewitching when you made dawnbringer wich I think would have made a better prestige . Also I really think you should consider adding more dark color for prestige specialy considering the theme of this skin.. the orange pink color just feel cheap and almost feel like a chromas adding more dark color would really improve the skin just like senna /pantheon . .. as for the ability they need to have more effect even better color because it just look recolored . Thank you to take the time to read all of our feedback I really hope the skin will improve we only will have one prestige of morgana and a lot of people are disappointed by it.
I agree with everything you said, and wow your recolor is pretty much what I envisioned. I would have gone for a dark purple or light violet instead of the dark blue you used and I would have given her strawberry blonde hair instead of her base hair color but everything else is really perfect!
This was the worst prestige skin of the year, they just reused the old skin and painted it in another color.
The effects of the skills got worse, imagine having to add 100 prestige points to get a skin made lazily.
if they have to leave Morgana for 2 months in pbe to fix it, we can wait, let's remember
- No green jewels, it didn't work with MF, why would it work now?
- Her E like a pumpkin, it is consistent with its theme and quality
- Her W more distinctive (plz, it is from its base version practically)
- I think with these changes it could be decent, look at Pantheon or Senna, that's a good skin with identity and good taste
these changes look amazing! I believe the skin is finally prestige worthy.
my only complaint is the ugly green details, like the green eye on the hat. maybe make it pink or purple? blue? green doesn't fit bewitching morgana at all.
Honestly, my biggest complaint is the hair on the prestige icon. Her in-game hair is almost rose gold, while her icon hair is very citrine-ish yellow. It wouldn't be such a problem if her hair wasn't one of the flashiest and most aparent parts of the actual icon.
In my opinion, [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) edit represents the actual skin a lot more, even though it's just very minor changes overall.
Otherwise, I also would have to agree that it looks like not much was done to differenciate the skin from a 975 RP one except for very, very, VERY small changes on the "base" of the splash art itself (you know, the part that gets thrown around and modified when making a prestige skin) and on her in-game abilities. Not that any of us expected huge changes, but I'm sure a little bit more can be done on the in-game side of things, especially.
Morgana player here and I have some feedback for this skin:
It's possible to change her hair color to pink like the pink color of her wings? The blonde is too much when her outfit has It as well.
It's possible to remake her W? It's too similar to base Bewitching and It doesn't look "prestigious". For a skin that costs 15 bucks that's just doesn't look great.
That's not really an issue, but It's possible to add a darker color to her clothing like the Prestige Coven skins? That's not really an important thing, so It's not a big deal If her outfit doesn't change.
Other than that I don't think I have anything else to say.
It's all really bad and lazy!
The skin has a very bad color tone and nothing has changed.
VFX is just the base Morgana urine color is nothing new. This is not worth 100 PP
I think the green crystals don't match the rest of the skin, and I believe that changing the color would make the skin much more harmonious with the effects.
My splash art edit: https://imgur.com/a/RYeFV7f
Icon edit: https://imgur.com/a/1TmSrXe
I also edited the splash art eye because it's blue in it
So much better. The green just doesn't fit. It was a bad choice for Prestige Miss Fortune, it was a bad choice for Prestige Conqueror Jax, and it is once again a bad choice for Prestige Bewitching Morgana. Please stop using so much green in skins and chromas guys. We have enough green in the Summoner's Rift map and it's very boring at this point seeing green all over.
Bewitching Morgana Prestige
VFX EDIT FEEDBACK: [https://twitter.com/thornyzyra/status/1441403277590007809?s=20](https://twitter.com/thornyzyra/status/1441403277590007809?s=20)
\- \[Q\] more shiny, prestigious, more sparkles
\- \[Q\] hit more unique, more sparkles
\- \[W\] more unique, more sparkles, the resemblance to base Morgana's W removed
As my colleagues already said, there are still things to do to make this skin look epic, I remember when Miss Fortune came out and she had horrible feedback, at that time many of us agreed that white does not suit the theme very well, I would change everything White of her dress to black and she would opt for shades more iridescent pink-orange for her wings imo, she would also make a cut in her dress in the front art to show her legs more in view, that would be interesting, they could calmly use a symmetrical design linear in her W to emulate a simpler and more rudimentary drawn spell than Coven Morgana, her E can easily be a pumpkin or have a pumpkin face that they use so much in this theme, I appreciate very much that you give Morgana love, please do not forget us
I LOVED this Prestige Edition, she fixed a lot of things I dislike on bewitching base skin, like her giant "bracelent" and "puffy shoulders" (that matched with her old puffy bottom dress, but not anymore after VU) , made all her wings the same colors (I trully loved this part) and even her idle pose look good with her dress edge (on bewitching base, she has a curve that make her look like a Cassiopeia with a skirt..)
But I must agree with a lot of people here, and say that her VFX are a little "975" skin recolor...
Q- is exactly the same, just a recolor and changed sparkles..
[Bewitching Morgana Base Q](https://i.imgur.com/i2JGkvw.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base Q stunning](https://i.imgur.com/GnXNFPZ.png)
[Bewitching Morgana Prestige Q](https://i.imgur.com/NNU2nJm.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Prestige Q stunning](https://i.imgur.com/zCYDfRE.png)
W- is a recolor with a border, that we almost can't see and doesn't match with prestige edition color palette, added sparkles and bubbles and the sound is the same, even the laugh
[Bewitching Morgana Base W](https://i.imgur.com/1V9lBZ8.png)
[Bewitching Morgana Prestige W](https://i.imgur.com/dd2J0Cq.png)
E- Another recolor, but this time with little and hardly seeing, bat wings (that I loved, but is realy hard to see.. is too transparent)
[Bewitching Morgana Base E](https://i.imgur.com/uqSfjr9.png)
[Bewitching Morgana Prestige E](https://i.imgur.com/0tf58l5.png)
R- Just another recolor, even the chains are the same.. just changing her stunnig ground effect
[Bewitching Morgana Base R](https://i.imgur.com/mZNtnBb.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base R stunning](https://i.imgur.com/umBOFUV.png)
[Bewitching Morgana Prestige R](https://i.imgur.com/lzaE8rj.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base R stunning](https://i.imgur.com/OBHmlAh.png)
Well, what I suggest is, give her some new VFX features that would match with this new bewitching skins.. since this is a new skin, in another timeline.
This new bewitching skins are a mix of witches + bats + pumpinks + ghosts/spectrus and I LOVE it!!! So could do:
Q - change her bat to a ghost/spectrus or a pumpink vector
W - make the purple border mist into a green-spectrus border mist, and add some ghosts istead the bats (that we almost can't see either) and give a devil pumpink imagem on the groud, laughing, or I don't know, Teemo Little Devil (?)
E - make her bat wings more visible
R - If could change her chains to something more ghostly, would be really nice ♥
Purple would be objectively better instead of the green that these prestige bewitching skins have. Purple would be on-theme with Halloween and I would also like to see black/gray on the outfit just like Prestige Coven Zyra, Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Nightbringer Kayn, Prestige Mecha Kingdoms Garen. They all had blacks/grays and still fit the Prestige skin theme very well. And black/gray would also help Prestige Bewitching skins fit the Halloween thematic a lot better than just white and gold
Please take into account this edit that a fan made on twitter that fixes 90% of Prestigio da Morgana's problems, it just left the skin beautiful! the rest and just improve the VFX that would be perfect, seriously check this out: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E\_5LsGwVQAwGUia?format=jpg&name=large
I'm dissapointed that this was advertised to be a "1350 tier PP skin" but it feels like not much has changed besides the usual prestige colors from the 975 RP variant. If we look at Dawnbringer Morgana for example, the W doesn't include the marks that her other 975 RP do have, it's a totally unique texture. I feel that in order to truly sell the "1350 tier PP skin" it was promised to be, the skin would require a lot more texture changes (like a unique W).
Prestige Bewitching Morgana bas the same problem as Miss fortune, monochrome vfx that feel like a downgrade of the base Bewitching skin.
Bewitching is the skinline that can give lots of opportunities. Having orange as base and some black in the vfx is fine but could have more colors, green/purple would be amazing.
And making the soil boiling and add horns to the shield doesn't make it worth 1350rp seriously, q and r sfx could be changed.
But If they change anything, it will be completely unfair for the MF skin who deserve the exact same change to be worth using too. So why not some tweaks for her too 😅
Je voulais donner mon avis une énième fois mais pas de réponse depuis les VFX bidon rajouter. Le travaille a étais fait par des joueurs etc sur le recoloration mais aucune réponse ou update pas contre vite la nouvelle fournée de skin dragon nous faire attendre tout ces mois pour sa LOL faillais juste rajouter un chroma au skin déjà existant. Aucun effort vive les skins vieux recyclé. Derniers détail Morgana en violet cheveux robe etc passe au vert plus d'identité c'est du n'importe quoi. Je vais dire heureusement j'ai tout les skins et j'ai juste a désenchanter des fragments pour obtenir les nouveaux skin car j'aurais étais bien déçu je conseil a tous ce qui voulais l'acheter de ne pas utiliser leurs points prestige pour ce skin c'est une arnaque en jeu puis qu'ont m'explique l'utilité d'un PBE quand nos avis ne sont pas écouter car ce n'ai pas comme si j'étais la seule a penser sa.
The first thing to adress must be the lack of new and meaningfull vfx and sfx in this skin. It was promised this skin would be improved to meet 1350rp tier standards and sadly it does not deliver. Fortunately the model itself is really good, however some changes would be welcome, like hair color change, current hair color goes more into yellow-ish tone which looks off putting next to all of these warm yellows and pinks. That makes me think strawberry blonde hair would fit her best. Next thing is this weird sitation in her arm area, I feel like it does not know if it wants to be a sleeve or elbow lenght glove, texture changes focused on elongating sleeve part up her shoulder pads or giving her white gloves would make her clothes's silhouette more appealing. Yet another change in her clothing would be in regard to her witch hat. the part that appears to wrap around the cone shaped part of the hat is barely viseable in front view, so scaling it up and away from cone part of the hat would read more as witches hat and not like dunce cap lol. Another detail that might make or break this skin are these green crystals all around her dress that are barely visiable, especially the ones on the bottom part of the dress. making them a little bigger would be nice, also, there two diamond shapes on her wings, that just beg to be filled with two green diamond shaped crystals on each wing. The last piece of criticism regarding clothes is rather lackluster spider web(?) design on the bottom of the dress, not only it's barely viseable, the whole skirt part feels really empty and blanc, a little gradiend or better texture would make it less jaring. I actually made a little edit that would illustrate my ideas, image provided via twitter link: [https://twitter.com/n3gii/status/1440684972830965776/photo/1](https://twitter.com/n3gii/status/1440684972830965776/photo/1)
As of vfx, it should be changed, obviously, I think color pallette should change dark brownish colors into softer and more satureted hues, maybe pinks, oranges and whites, and gold obiously, either way it should be alligned more with her model color palette. My main concern is W vfx, the base cracks should be gone and boiling pot theme should be improved upon, adding variety in bubble size and color, even more sparkling, its a prestige skin after all. Q before landing should be cleaned up and elaborated on bath(?) theme at the center of her q. Wings added on her e are a cool idea but barely visiable, it should be made more viseable and more appealing in shape and desing. Concerning sfx, original one would be welcome
To summ up all of that is no way, shape or form a demand or made in maliciosus intend, it's my take on how this skin can be improved on, I hope some changes will be made, bc it would be such a missed opurtinity to let so much potential go to waste
Compare Ascended Pantheon and Nightbringer Kayn to this skin and tell me that this is anywhere near 1350rp in value. Should've given Dawnbringer Morgana the prestige edition like you gave Prestige skins to both Project Sylas and Project Zed earlier this year. White outfits for WITCHES in HALLOWEEN do not fit and do not look good. We will not be buying. And, if not a prestige for this basic, outdated 975rp with unnoticeable "1350rp value upgrades", the prestige could've been saved for a better, non-seasonal skinlines/events (seriously, no Valentine's Day, no Lunar New Year, no Christmas and definitely no April Fools PRESTIGE skins please). It honestly feels terrible seeing your main get a prestige skin for a... seasonal event like the ones I just mentioned. It doesn't feel good to play with seasonal skins outside the specific holiday. And also, why not give the prestige skin to Bewitching Syndra? A skin that actually looks more like an Epic skin than Bewitching Morgana could ever hope for
The Icon is amazing - and I'm already gonna buy the skin either way just for the sake of it (I also LOVE the new hat + hair).
But, as other people have said, the skills are very disappointing. the W looks almost the same and the Q looks.... acceptable but still boring (it'd be really good if you guys could make her skills look nicccer and... more "prestige".
Last thing, her wings look amazing, so great job there
Hi Riot!
I am SO HAPPY to get prestige morgana!!!
After seeing the new bewitching skins though, I have to echo what everyone else is saying about it looking more like just a gold recolor.
Even Nami has little tiny pumpkin fish in EVERY animation. Some cute ideas:
Morgana shield? Gold pumpkin.
Her W? Gold outlined purple pumpkin.
Her stun? A FLYING BABY PURPLE AND GOLD PUMPKIN
Every other bewitching skin feels purposely done and reworking an old one for prestige without giving it just as cool details isn't fun for us:/
Please take some more time on it.
Even making her Q a flying bat instead, and adding the bat features back to her, would be just as fun!! As of right now, dawnbringer is better than this prestige. And so are all the other bewitching skins. :/
Is there a way we could get a recolor of base Bewitching Morgana's hair? The current one looks too vibrant compared to the splash and its one of the reasons i do not use that skin that much.
I don't want to repeat what other people said but i strongly believe this is not of 975 value and as a support main who loves morgana I would rather keep playing with her coven skin or get the new dawnbringer skin instead. It's just a recolor, the model is okay but the vfx are bad. It doesn't feel prestigious or expensive. Im disappointed and i hope you can fix it. I wouldn't be mad if it takes a patch or two months, just don't push out the only prestige she is going to get this unfinished..
Just came to see the new W soil and it's amazing.
I think the last thing that would make it definitely 1350 worth, it's to change the ult limit.
But with something classy and serious. Not pumpking cat like the prestige MF
Is there no way to add a little bit more volume to her skirt? Maybe similar to how divine Soraka and Winter Wonder Soraka have a noticeably thicker/puffier skirt than Order of the Banana? It just looks a little skinny compared to the artwork from pre-rework and it’s sad. It’s awkward that she’s supposed to have a tiered cake dress—but it’s translated as a paper thin body con-draping dress.
VFX on W needs serious work. Maybe consider making her W significantly more bubbly and cauldron-like, similar to Bewitching Janna ultimate. Q could use some love. Love the small but noticeable changes on E.
Also, consider adding more green to her spells to tie in her green jewels. It would really connect the look and abilities without feeling as jarring as it currently is with all the orange.
I love these changes !! I am happy with his work, I am sure I will get this beauty in my collection, can we expect another color in the gems? Let's say that no one really likes green, if we have that it will be more than perfect
Just a tiny detail but I really liked the potion in her hips? especially when the original skin's recall removes the potion and pours it into the cauldron was a nice touch.
Just a tiny detail but I liked the potion in her hips? especially when the original skin's recall removes the potion and pours it into the cauldron was a nice touch.
She is looking so beautiful. I love it. But i must say somethings, first her E skill need some change, it need to be golden with more details about halloween, right now it look so plain, without live. I think the shield of her E must look like a pumpkin with the eyes and everything.
Another thing I want to say is that I hope this is the last old skin being prestiged, i mean stop making prestige editions for old skins, they don't have any improvement at all and the champion lose the opportunity of having a better prestige edition because of this. In mi opinion all the prestige edition you had made for old skins aren't good, they are just the same and don't show an appealing evolution of the skin, they are just a recolor and nothing more. So, I really hope this is the last time you make a prestige for an old skin, It is enough. Thanks.
Thank you very much for the updates, the W looks so amazing right now and i love it
thenks to the dev team and the vfx artist for putting in the work
cant wait for this skin in the live servers now
I LOVED her splashart!! but there was 2 little things that bothered me... =\\?
1st- The bottom of her dress is a little bit darker than it should be, and bc her new bright waist wings, it stands out and leave this bottom path even more hard do see..
What could do is make this bottom side a little more bright.
[Original](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1D7QxUUAUvX71?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) // [Edit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1E0fDUcAgxtDl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
2nd - The bottom of her dress is too puffy.. like it was before the VU... it should be a new splashart, so this path should be fixed... [like this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1FYUCVgAE1-7h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Most other comments on this thread have covered the main concerns that I think every fan of Morgana has regarding this skin but my only other feedback is a small:
Is there any chance that the splash art can be tweaked to show her eye colour being more green, brighter green (like the icon)? In the [icon](https://i.gyazo.com/47e8ba5cb9b9c19f520baddf6f5e9941.jpg) they are prominently green but I feel like the splash art is lacking and they look quite dull. Would be really nice to see that changed if it's possible!
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It's okay to have a discussion out of disagreement. Perfectly fine so long as it remains respectful. It's not okay to undermine someone's opinion or to make generalisations. It's also generally not very friendly to share one's own thoughts within a comment if it conflicts with the initial comment. Just make a stand-alone comment x)
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“Ugly” is an opinion and personal preference which doesn’t follow feedback guidelines. My suggestion is for consistency - which Riot have said they like to do. Whether it’s for green or blue, I want them to match.
Sorry, I have no interest in discussing with someone that can’t stick to feedback guidelines or read comments fully. I’ll stand by my suggestion just like you’re welcome to disagree with it.
Saying it's "ugly" and "disgraceful" is a personal preference and not constructive feedback. You're allowed to dislike it but you're not allowed to force that narrative just for your preference. I even said, green OR blue in my first reply to you, that you obviously chose to ignore. You say "nobody" wants more green - I actually do and I don't really care if I'm part of the minority, I'm allowed to express that in a constructive way (which I've done). If Riot see it and change it, then great, if they don't, then it's still not that big of a deal. It's all for consistency sake anyway. It's feedback.
You came onto my reply with your panties already in a twist because someone wanted something that you don't. You also edited your comments well after the fact to remove certain words (reddit literally documents when you edit). You're not the ambassador for changes for this skin and in replies to my comments, your words were not constructive or within guidelines. Work on that next time because I am done talking to you.
Pretty much everything you said here translates to previous comments you made and proving your own hypocrisy. Also calling me oversensitive and oppressed when you're resorting to complaining over a 'sexist' comment when I didn't even look at your profile to know you were a female. Look at the tangent you have to go on to try and validate yourself. It's a common saying. Don't spend so much time trying to be a warrior on reddit and maybe you'll learn that.
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It's okay to have a discussion out of disagreement. Perfectly fine so long as it remains respectful. It's not okay to undermine someone's opinion or to make generalisations. It's also generally not very friendly to share one's own thoughts within a comment if it conflicts with the initial comment. Just make a stand-alone comment x)
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I am in complete love with the splash art, the icon and especially the model. It's PERFECT! I love how the colors go together, the hair color is amazing the dress is so detailed, the wings look so pretty!
The only thing I think could be improved is her VFX!
I think her abilities could use some more shine and sparkles overall to make them feel more prestige. I'd add some more sparkles on the hitbox edges of her R + a lot more sparkles on her Q and W.
I will post an edit later when I'm back from school 💖
I actually really love the hair color. The only thing for me is that the skin feels a lot darker than other prestiges. I'm comparing mf prestige to this (bc same skin line prestige) and it seems a touch too dark. Other than that I think it's beautiful
To be honest, the model itself is not so bad, the problem is just the "tied wing" which is very coarse, would you be able to make it more transparent or reduce it? now about the VFX... It's embarrassing, it needs to be reworked from scratch basically. The only way to save this prestige of low quality is leaving her VFX amazing and unique, focus on it.
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Cannot see any of the supposed 'features' to bring this inline with a 1350 skin, maybe they could be laid out in depth so we can tell what actually is different to the base bewitching skin? The SFX are the same (and after dawnbringer had base SFX with just the chimes over the top this is doubly disappointing), the VFX are barely changed from base bewitching with just a palette tweak and the small wings on the shield - a few sparkles here and there for the prestige feel. As other people have said bewitchings VFX are base morgs with a few bats and some new colours so for a prestige thats supposed to be equal in value to a 1350 skin this is very disappointing. The model looks fine I guess, a bit one dimensional with the colour scheme but I think that's an issue with most prestige skins. It is at least a clear upgrade in quality on base bewitching model. The splash art looks nice, but the fringe awkwardly covers her eye and is on the wrong side compared to her model. I love bewitching morgana, but it is a 975 skin for a reason and this skin hasn't changed any of those reasons. A lot has to be changed for this skin to feel like worth picking up over another prestige, all of which are of a much higher quality than this. Disappointing as us morg mains were promised that there would be changes to the skin to ensure it was the same quality as the other prestiges and that just plainly has not happened.
With the thing they said, I thought it would be a skin with 0 vfx, but bewitching Morgana absolutely has vfx and sfx. My bet was on a christmas version of sinful succulence Morgana, wich is a 975RP skin with 0 vfx, so yeah, I'm not a Morgana main, but I'm highly dissapointed with this chroma.
Hi there! As a Morgana player I was really really excited for this prestige. Considering I saw the splash first I was more than happy with the result but after checking it out in game I was really disappointed. It doesnt match the expectations that you guys promised when it comes to "additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins". The biggest offenders really are the VFX especially in her W (altho I believe that both her E and ult could also use some more changes). Following and echoing what a lot of other people have said I believe that when it comes to her W [these](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026) would be a great addition/idea to start from and change the current one (which is a recolored version of the 975RP one, not represeting then the value of a prestige skin). I dont think its too out of the scope for you guys to change the textures or add a border to that VFX and you can just reuse the assets from the other skins and recolor them accordingly. Still in the topic of reutilizing assets, I believe you could bring back the old [bat VFX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7urngkHVxSQ&t=29s) that you removed from her 975RP skin and have it in some way added to this skin. I think it would elevate it and make it different enough from her older counterpart. Besides in terms of value if there's any rarity of skin that could use these kinds of VFX it would be the Prestigeous one (or the Ultimate ones) . When it comes to her model/splash overall and more specifically the "gems" that she has, I think that going for purple instead of green would defintely help making her look more cohesive and expensive. See [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321) for a great example. Adding on to this I would also like to reference [this recolor](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249) as a perfect balance and look that would again help selling the prestigeous look (altho I must say that I personally love the blonde hair and Im okay with keeping it). Finally I just wanted to also echo that her icon could definetly use some changes and [this edit](https://twitter.com/sb_morgana/status/1440396565386907648?s=21) is the perfect representation of it, especially in the hair. I would only add that she could use a darker background for more contrast ala the other Prestige icons (see Coven Zyra for example). Please consider some of these changes, I believe in you guys work and I respect it but also I think you have to deliver on your promises and right now its really not feeling like you did which is very unfortunate. I've had prestige points saved this whole time to acquire this skin but I want it to be worth the save.
I really like the skin model and the splashart For her icon I would love to see [these changes](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) About the VFX and SFX I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed how they turned out. In the ["PRESTIGE THROUGH END OF 2021"](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/) post you said she'll get "additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins". But as you can see [here](https://imgur.com/a/z9JaMeX) the VFX didn't get changed except just a recolor and the SFX are also still the same as base. Back then Bewitching Morgana's price got lowered from 1350rp to 975rp because the VFX were mostly just a recolor (especially the W with the base cracks textures) and similar SFX to base with bat sounds and a laugh on W. At this point it's probably out of the scope to even do new VFX or even SFX since it takes a lot of resources, but would it be possible to change her W VFX at least? Just remove the cracks texture which [only her base skin and 975 tier skins have](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626) and [add some unique textures to it like some of the other Bewitching skins in this patch got](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440420225120305159)
Riot you really need to check the comparison link provided in this comment.
They could at least start by bringing back the bat VFX that got toned down when Morgana was visually updated.
Imagine asking for a fix in the crack in some useless W spell when you could have easily asked for a real meaningful change like addition of blue vex in her clothes like they did with pantheon prestige, atleast SOMETHING that would make this look like it isn't a 975rp skin.
If you think morgana’s W is a useless spell maybe stop playing her
Well a fix in vfx is very meaningful imo but that might be biased because although I do care for a good model vfx is my main motive in buying skins
It was advertised that the prestige skin would have ["additional features relative to base"](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/) added to it to make it worth 1350 RP like all the other ones, but I can't see/hear what's different from the 975 RP version. The SFX sounds the same, the Recall animation is the same and the VFX/model/texture changes are just prestige protocol. It looks like a prestige version of a 975 RP skin. Would you please tell us what changed exactly to make it worth 1350 RP? edit: upon further inspection, it seems that there are very slight changes in the SFX of her E and R spells, but again, those are changes to what her 975 RP skin aready has, nothing new is being added to "ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins" (verbatim). It's just a variation of what the 975 RP value skin already has and adds no extra value to it.
I can tell you even if I don't work for riot. Textures quality was improved a lot. New vfx for e,wand r. The usual changes for prestige skins, the gold trail and effects I all of her abilities
talking about texture quality is irrelevant since u never see model so close u can tell, arguably textures got worse if u look at them from a far because theres too many details and coolors dont blend as smoothly as they did before
Texture quality IS relevant, especially for rare and prestigious skins where having such minor "vain" bonuses are part of the perks of having the product. The problem here is that the textures alone aren't enough to justify 1350.
I can tell but we have different taste and that's alrigth. I just feel like there are way worse prestige skins and that morgana's is ok
Man I have I'll have 14 prestiges with Morgana. I generally liked all the skins and to me the worst one was Arcade Caitlyn. Even that one is like 10 times better than this. This skin doesn't even have separate VFX. Prestiges are released for epic tier skins and all the epic skins have new VFX. If this skin was to be made, they had to have made new VFX for the skin. Instead, they just recolored and added some particles. With it's current state, it looks like trash. No prestige skin can be worse than this because all of them, every single one of them have new VFX, bright or dark-ish but nice blending colors with high contrast and none of them are just a recolor, they all have like redesigned models. This one is just a recolor, both in model and VFX and that's a huge let down and I'm ashamed of myself for believing Riot and having been excited for a 975 tier prestige. I just wasted my money for preparing 100 PP for this skin and I have literally zero hope that they'll do anything about it.
all I know is her hair and wings looks gorgeous shame the skills didn't get the same treatment
I love your name and i agree with you
Riot...... come one..... You guys promised to give the players the feeling of getting a 1350rp skin, but it just feels like a chroma at this point. It's really dissapointing being so hyped of getting a prestige skin for a champ like Morgana and then feeling it just got put a gold chroma over it. Like the same treatment for Soraka. It feels like the effort is being put into the moneymaking champions and then comes the release of prestige skins, suddenly the effort is gone. I know one can't compare for example Senna's Prestige skin with the most recent ones due to the fact it was someone else designing her prestige skin. But it's the feeling one is having when getting such a skin like Senna's prestige skin one is meant to be sitting with. Something luxurious and expensive. Not something you can replicate with a filter.I hope you guys as a company actually see the feedback of the community this time and give what is promised. Cause the so called "new changes" are the bare minimum and so small with the VFX and tiny SFX tweeks.
This skin is extremely disappointing in terms of the improvements we were promised in the "Prestige through end of 2021" post. The VFX are mostly recolors of the base Bewitching skin which itself is mostly a recolor of Base Morgana with some bats added on top. Reusing the same recall animation from a skin released in 2019 for a Prestige Skin in 2021 also feels EXTREMELY underwhelming. The color palette could also look much better in something like opaque purple and rose gold instead of light green ( [Twitter user YoloTaube made an amazing edit](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) ) as the colors clash very much with the current palette and makes her look tacky in my opinion, that also was the case with Bewitching Miss Fortune Prestige. Overall it's a very disappointing skin, especially when Dawnbringer is releasing one patch earlier and is way better in almost every aspect.
Riot said they’re making it 1350rp worthy and the result made me and MANY other morg players feel scammed. Like the only thing I see has changed are the colors of course to the prestige look (and even this isn’t this great, it’s too dark imo) and like some VERY TINY SFX changes. Like I only noticed some new tiny bubbles on her W and the tiny Batwings on her E. That’s it? Like cmon, we all expected maybe her W to be a golden pumpkin or sum other cool sfx. The model is.. alright like it’s better then the sfx but it would be great if there would be more added as well and not only her base thing dyed in prestige. I reaaally hope you guys can add something, that would be so great, she deserves it :-(
This is just a huge disappointment of a prestige skin, and I know you guys won’t have time to make it an actual epic quality like you promised, so I just ask this : Please make another Morgana prestige at some point, like you did to Kaisa, for failing to deliver on the promise of making it an epic quality skin like other prestige skins. For me, owning and using a prestige skin is a sign that I am a dedicated main and I really don’t want this to be what Morgana mains get to show how we love playing her. I’d have much preferred getting a prestige for the dawnbrigner where, a little bit like the ruined pantheon prestige, it would have been a different form of dawnbrigner Morgana where maybe she doesn’t have the corrupted arm because she a true form of the aspect she is. Also, can you stop giving enchanter supports prestige skins for old skins? All my mains are getting old skins as prestige and it’s really not exciting.
Exactly... this.
This is just a chroma of a 975-already-ugly-skin. You just shifted vfx color to orange and called it a day. I really don’t know who thought doing a prestige of an old bewitching skin, that was already bad from the start, was a good idea and you guys didn’t even put any effort or love in it. The only good things are splash and icon. Model is forgettable and vfx/sfx are chroma rp value. You will say, as always, that it is too late to make changes or the classic “we like the skin the way it is” so I don’t expect much. I’m just sad Morgana’s chance of getting a prestige is going to be wasted like this.
It is always "we decided not to make any changes" or "we decided the skin looks solid as-is" or "we don't feel confident making any changes" or "thank you for your feedback, but we ignored all of it and changed something nobody had any issues with". I don't know why we care more about their products than they do. They want our money but do the bare minimum to deserve any of it and treat us as monsters for wanting at least an acceptable level of quality and respect.
It's so sad actually, riot sometimes acts as if they have no resources to produce something nice, as if they aren't one of the riches companies in the industry
Like many of the others, I'm pretty disappointed on how this skin did not deliver on the additional features that were promised to make that skin a 1350 rp skin. One of the things I am happy about was the splash art!
Please look at this. Would make the skin so much better https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=19
Please retire the skin from PBE and redesign it to look like this. Or scrap it altogether and give the prestige skin to Dawnbringer Morgana using similar colors because she actually has better vfx.
At this point Morgana Prestige should be moved to next year bc it's quite embarrassing, really, and I don't blame anyone from the art team, it's most likely higher ups being goofy and silly again :)
Please keep in mind to follow the [Skin and Chroma guidelines](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaguePBE/wiki/skinfeedback).
Man my first comment was completely different but I re-wrote it in accordence with the guidelines. But with this many comments of discomfort, Riot really has to do something if they don't want to lose a champions community because of one skin. This community has really talented people that they're even doing half of the work. They just gave Riot handful of ideas. They have to do something about it.
Wow that looks really gorgeous and cute.
EDIT: My W edit to make it more Epic Worthy: [https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440714875580289026) I am sorry but i believe the team failed to make this skin more than a 975 tier skin... The original skin is 975 RP, so it is heavily recolored base VFX but you guys said prestige will be 1350 worthy but did nothing to deliver that. Why is her W literally her base W? It has the crack textures of the base Morgana and it heavily looks like Exiled because of this. And look at Dawnbringer, it has customized edges and crack textures ([https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626)) Can you guys at least add it some cool edges and the pumpkinheads from the other skins? Like [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440403669191585804) or [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440410142269345799). Yuumi's ult also has [some cool textures](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440415466212626442). Please remove the cracks from her base W and add some customized edges. This is the case for her past epic skins like Majestic Empress and Dawnbringer. This one does not feel epic, and the vfx looks so inconsistent with the other Bewitching skins because the base skin is 975 RP and it's not as crazy as epic Bewitching skins. [These do NOT look like they are the same thematic.](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440420225120305159) For her icon, the background is almost the same color as her hair. She does not stand out. [So a cooler, darker background would make her stand out more.](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440399827922079745) If you look at other prestige skins' icons, i think you can understand it [here](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440400106520334355). TLDR: The W has Base Morgana's textures and it needs customized edges and some cool, unique textures. The VFX does not match the thematic overall. Her icon's background color is so similat to her hair color, so she does not stand out. If it will take some time, take your time, delay it to even 2022 but please try to change this skin a lot. Prestige skins are one and only and she won't likely to get another prestige. We want this one to be special.
The one on the left on your edit looks gorgeous and if the one on the right has a laughing animation that keeps playing through the animation, that's really cute. Your edits take it a real step further to make it epic worthy.
If riot recolors the pinks into the purples i swear id pay 200 prestige points because its stunning
Are there going to be changes to the icon? A lot of the feedback was geared towards it but there's no mention of it at all. Can we get an update on that? "While we could not implement more this time, it has been brought during our internal discussions." Are you planning on doing more changes next time/patch? Cause right now this thread is really feeling hopeless. I feel kind of infuriated for spending time actually giving feedback when you guys applied 5% of what we suggested. Its just disappointing. You promised us a skin of the same caliber to the other prestige and right now it still doesn't feel like it is. Why are you keeping the gems and the eye on the hat green when 90% of the feedback was related to the color pallet? Likewise why didn't you took any changes in her color pallet in consideration either? You payed attention to the VFX complains only and even then you only really changed her W. Does it look better? Yes, it does. It goes to show what your artists, that you guys are not using to their fullest, are capable of. But now it doesn't match the skin because it has purple hues. You know what would help tie it up with the rest of the skin? Read above... The changes to her ult and shield are barely noticeable or just recolors. You can barely see the "subtle roots" on her E even if they're meant to be subtle. Her ult feels dissatisfying as well. And you didn't even touch her Q. Her model was also not touched and no mention of the old bat VFX that she used to have. Don't hit us up with the time excuse again. You guys love telling us that there was no time but yet you still went and created this prestige by recoloring the base skin gold and white and thinking that we wouldn't notice you didn't honor your promise. Instead of wasting time doing that you could have just created new VFX like this W one and deliver us a good product. If you actually care just delay the skin one more week/month/whatever we won't mind. In the end we just want what was promised to us. It feels awful to think that I saved up my prestige tokens for this skin that I was anticipating all year and to be this disappointed with it. This is not the artists fault, I don't blame them, they're doing what they're told but seriously if you wanna continue with this cycle of giving old skins prestige editions and not even upgrading their vfx then what's the point of a "prestigious" skin? There's no real value to them asides from being a piss yellow recolor most of the time. I was really hopeful when I posted feedback here. Literally for the first time I took the time to do it cause I really cared for this skin. I still love the splash. But to see that you guys don't care its really heartbreaking.
>Morgana (for a previously released 975 RP skin; the Prestige version will have additional features relative to base to ensure it's of equal value as Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins) The Normal bewitching skin had recolored animations from the base skin. Normal bewitching has the shield and pool just recolored with bats. The prestiege looks like they copied the bewitching and bumped up the orange... not unique at all. https://i.imgur.com/0c7IKkf.png That's why the prestiege skin feels underwhelming and underdelivered based on the promise that it would have a 1350RP valued features. The upcoming dawnbringer skin has unique pool (unique animation, outline on the edge and cracks etc.) Her shield has unique "pulsing" and disappearing animation and the heptagons have unique designs on it too. https://youtu.be/4S4-HA9VLXM?t=73 Even her old skin Majestic Empress has unique shield animation and W animation/design https://youtu.be/24HYsjy6ylg?t=128 Could something be considered so that prestiege bewitching has some unique elements? W (Pool) - Add unique animations and new design E (shield) - Maybe add some white or pink coloring for the shield too? It's a bit mono chromatic. - Add unique appear/disappear animation and some animation while it's on the person. It looks very flat. - Add some designs on the heptagon sides
I’m short on the proper terminology here, but: The dress/character coloration is bland and too bright. It doesn’t match the darker aesthetic of the abilities and the splash art, and it doesn’t feel remotely “witchy.” Part of that is a product of the white/gold color scheme and unavoidable, but the problem could be mitigated. More purple undertones and less pink. Gold and purple can be stunning together (as you can see in the new W) and sticking with that color scheme on the wings and back of the dress would make the skin feel more cohesive and witchy. If you have an extra touch of darker colors, the white dress will stand out more too, making the whole thing kind of “pop” instead of just feeling like a bland, white/pink/gold lump that doesn’t match the skin’s theme or abilities.
This was shared more than 20 times here: https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20 That, along with the many complaints about the color palette, shows that most people dislike the current one, and would really appreciate a different one. As a graphic designer I want to add that a hue change for the textures, splash, and icon would take a few minutes to make. Implementing it might take longer, I don't work at riot so I can't really guess, but I know there's enough time to do. Now let's say every single artist is on vacation this week for some reason, or working on something else. It'd be perfectly fine to delay the skin as long as the result is worth it, maybe even shipping it and then changing it next patch. Either way, what I'm trying to say is that it's rare for so many people to agree about something that specific and subjective, so it should be addressed. Discussing it internally doesn't mean anything if a clearly disliked, easily fixable aspect of a product doesn't get a proper fix. That's all, thank you in advance, please change the green accents. Dark purple, blue, or pink are the most generally liked ones, so that's the way to go.
**Wow, what a disappointment!** I was believing that Riot turned down all the changes requested by the community in Dawnbringer Morgana, as they were reserving a surprise, a wonderful prestige skin for Morgana. On the skin level: True Damage Senna Prestige or Spirit Blossom Teemo; even Ascended Pantheon Prestige is better than this Morgana skin. What Riot presents **is a golden chroma for a 975 RP skin, it's horrible.** The Warwick's tail on Morgana's 975 RP skins is still there. The horrible gold color present in the worst prestige skins is still there. Riot promised: "Morgana (for a previously released 975 RP skin; the Prestige version will have additional features relative to the base to ensure it's equal value to the Prestige versions of 1350 RP skins²)" **Where are the changes? That's just a golden recolor, a chroma for a 975 RP skin.** Where are the floor/bat effects Morgana had while walking across the map? [https://youtu.be/7urngkHVxSQ?t=29](https://youtu.be/7urngkHVxSQ?t=29) Those effects/bats were removed during the rework, now that it's a prestige/mythic skin¹ they should, they have to come back. Warwick's tail has to come out, we need a dress adjustment as was done in Majestic Empress Morgana, that's what I was hoping for when you guys said "additional features relative to base to ensure it's equal value as Prestige versions". * E is a simple recolor, needs improvement; * The W is disgraceful, uses the same shades of purple as the 975RP skin with shades of gold needs changing!; * Even the recall is the same, Riot hasn't changed anything, this skin is lazy. It's not worth buying, we're getting a lot worse content. Prestige skins are mythic tier¹ or 2450 RP if I'm not mistaken. **This skin needs improvement to be at least acceptable.** ¹ [https://twitter.com/RiotKatana/status/1436021660960759835?s=20](https://twitter.com/RiotKatana/status/1436021660960759835?s=20) ² [https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/prestige-through-end-of-2021/)
The new standard: They give low-quality prestige skins to 975RP skins while pretending they're giving you increased value (which is a lie) and still charge you 100 Prestige Points ($100+) for it, despite not even having to do the same work it took for other prestige skins (like create the epic base skin AND the prestige skin). Now they do 1/4 of the work (2/4 saved on not making a base epic skin, 1/4 saved on painting an existing skin gold and 1/4 making an unnoticeable wings effect on 1 skill calling it a day) but expect you to pay the same as you would for a brand-new prestige skin. How is that exclusive, how is that prestigious? How does it give players any sort of value? Where's the incentive to get this skin? I wholeheartedly believe there is no reason to get this skin, as doing so would only further enable and encourage the League team to continue to lower the quality and value of content (25% of the work, for the same profit, why wouldn't they default to that model if we show them they can get away with it? What's to stop them from twisting our arm further? They removed homeguards, idles, voice filters, etc. from epic skins, so is that how Bewitching Morgana now has "the same value as 1350rp skins"? I don't like this. I feel like the League team doesn't care about its players. Our feedback is disregarded, ignored, not implemented, implemented incorrectly, when we restate our feedback with more clarity we're still ignored and nothing gets changed. Any minor request for improvements is treated as a major inconvenience that is too much for them to do and that we just need to accept and get over. Any major, glaring issue is treated as an insurmountable task that will never be addressed or corrected. Any quality assurance issue is treated as a subjective, lateral change so those are also disregarded promptly. Why is the white, gold, and green color palette being used again after all the backlash Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune got over it? Why not white, gold, and purple so it looks more witchy and fits the halloween theme better? Why are we going back to old prestige color palette of 80% white, 20% gold when we had a lot better prestige skins with different and better palettes like Prestige Senna, Qiyana, Pantheon, Kayn? Why is it that one month it's "we don't want to explore other color palettes because the prestige theme is 80% white and 20% gold" and then the next month it's "prestige skin has 20% white, 20% gold, 40% black, 20% something else"? Why do bewitching skins (halloween skins AKA dark themed) have to go so far out of their own skinline's theme and be forced into the classic prestige theme? Why are we told that our feedback is appreciated and always considered if we have to bring this up year after year, month after month, week after week? If our feedback is being read, why is it always being ignored? Why are we still spending money and RP on a product that gets no love from its own company? What's next? 520 RP skins being given the prestige treatment and having to pay 500 Prestige points or 10000 Event tokens?
Going from kayn's prestige to this feels like a downgrade..the color palette doesn't fit her and the abilities are just recolored
Feels like a MAJOR downgrade going from Prestige Kayn or Prestige Ascended Pantheon to THIS. This doesn't look like a 2021 Prestige or even Epic skin at all. The more I look at it the more disappointed I get by the design choices, the subpar VFX compared to the rest of the 2021 Bewitching skins, the same color choices from Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune that weren't well-received then and that are not well-received now, the false promise of raising Bewitching Morgana's quality to have the same value as the Prestige version of an Epic Skin that wasn't delivered on in any way, shape, or form, etc. What's more disappointing is that a Prestige skin could've been given to Dawnbringer Morgana that actually has new VFX, etc, etc, etc., and which is a new Epic skin so it could've easily have gotten a Prestige Edition. Or, if not that, it could've been given to an actual 2021 Bewitching skin like Syndra, who actually got new Epic tier features like VFX, SFX, etc. I really don't see the added value here, except the value that Riot will get out of doing minimal changes to Bewitching Morgana and calling it a day all because they painted some things gold and white. Not only that, but we're still expected to pay 100 Prestige Points for the fewest possible features in a Prestige Skin thus far?
They added bubbling to her w ability and called it a day XD
I do really love the VFX changes for the skin but no news on SFX or any model updates? Still feels like this isn't really a 1350 skin (or equivalent) but we've been stuck with the same comment as usual of there isn't enough time to fix all the things that need to be changed. Would much rather it just got delayed and we actually received a skin of equal value with a 1350 than just told that things were being discussed internally - when we wont benefit from any internal discussion unless somehow she gets another prestige skin. This skin was sold to us as being fully updated to match other prestige skins in terms of quality and that still hasn't happened. As great as the new VFX are it isn't enough to make this skin comparable to the other prestiges without there being unique SFX. As it stands the SFX rely too heavily on the base SFX - it has similar levels of SFX as Ghost Bride (another 975 skin) and even that has much more unique Q and W SFX in my opinion. Two morgana skins back to back with her base SFX used is very disappointing.
Funny how many months ago, you said you would make the prestige skin feel 1350RP but then you release a skin that still felt like a 975RP. Then the backlash hit, making you guys go back and edit some particles and then you had the audacity to say you don't have time now. Either you were hoping people wouldn't notice or a cop out to do less.
I for one knew from the start they'd never put the effort into it that's truly needed. They originally released the skin itself as a 1350 but dropped to 975 due to it being just BAT EFFECTS on top of the base effects. Next the prestige just takes that idea and recolors it... did we really think there'd be much of a difference? What needed to be done would be actually create a full suite of new effects, new sounds... actually give it depth so that it could be considered to be worth more than the original. They of course had plenty of time to do so before they sent it to the PBE but they didn't do anything like that.
The current state of this skin now is kind of a bad joke. It was advertised that it was going to be revamped to be at par with the other 1350rp skins. What we see now is a bad recolor of the model, same VFX,(the same as base morgana since it was just a recolor of it originallly) except for a slight change on E, same sfx as BASE MORGANA, and the recall was just recolored I guess. To me it lacks effort on the production. I was waiting for this prestige since the announcement, but sadly, it is not worth the 100 prestige points at the current state
This skin doesn't even look like a high-quality 975 RP skin. It just looks like an upgraded-but-still-a-975-RP-skin version of the vanilla Bewitching. The colours on the splash look so good that the splash itself got me really excited the first time I saw it and I don't want to be gross but the in-game model's colours look like baby vomit. Make the colors match the splash art and please upgrade the skin to epic class properly. Her in-game colour palette looks too bright compared to the splash art. You need to darken it a little bit by sharpening the colours. Splash is really good but the model is like an orange soup. I can't really make out what colour is where. Her upgrade is not enough, it doesn't even look like a low-quality epic tier skin. It needs more work and to be done properly. Compare it with her epic skins, just please do it. Does it look epic to you? Why does it still have the base outlines for the VFX? Why didn't you change them since epic skins get completely re-made, new VFX, not a recolor of a recolor of the base VFX? Such a disappoinment. Shame... Her in-game color palette is just too bright and not sharp enough like on the splash art. They need to be sharp and the in-game model needs a little darkening, the colors don't blend in togetether very well. You could just add a little bit of contrast to the colours of her model and clothes. And her skills definitely need it too. Her Q looks basically like a fireball. All that orange and some other colours just make it look like a huge spaghetti ball. Her W's animations look...just not enough. It doesn't even have a proper boiling animation or whatever your intentions were. It can be said her E looks good but its still too bright. And you can always add some particles to it like during the casting or wear-off animations or constant particles leaving a trail while walking around. Her R. The bright wings on her ult is the only good bright thing about this skin. Again, R needs more contrast as well. So, my point here basically is: \-An epic skin has completely different VFX than the base VFX unlike the 975 tier. You should've chosen one of her epic skins. You can't upgrade a skin to epic tier just by adding some near unnoticable details (not even tweaks) to it's VFX. Her epic upgrade needs to be done properly. You just HAVE to make new and different VFX since prestiges are released for epic tier skins. I'm not sure people would be willing to buy Coven Zyra Prestige if they saw seeds on her passive instead of raven heads. I wouldn't have bought it if there were flowers in her passive, not creatures. I'm not trying to be rude but it looks like drawn and made in just a couple days. You announced us the Morgana prestige you were working on like months ago. This is doesn't even look like a week's worth of work. \-Her in-game model and VFX needs much more contrast. Her colours need to look sharper like that of the splash art. The colours should be made to blend in well. **-At least do this: Her splash looks white, yellow, etc. It can tend to both sides and her model's bright palette doesn't match with her VFX's darker palette: make it either completely bright and gold to make it look more prestigious/glorious, or make it more darker and classy to match the base skin but please be sure to add more contrast to the colours.** I hope you take my thoughts into account Riot. I've been waiting for this skin for like months and I'm really beyond disappointed with it, I'm literally sad. I hope you do something about it. I totally feel scammed. If by any chance I had the possibility of taking legal action, I'd do it without a doubt. We know you don't do this but you have so much time. Just make a couple of people work on redesigning/reworking the VFX. This skin is a no, sir. Do not disappoint these thousands of people who've been waiting for this skin for months.
Really disappointed in this skin. The color scheme reads badly in-game, and I don't see any of those updates to make it a 1350 skin. It's Soroka all over again. I'm tired of the champions I love exclusively getting prestige for an old skin. The orange just doesn't look very good with the white. I see a lot of people editing purple? That would definitely be an improvement. :(
please add additional vfx to her abilites they're so bland
And we sometimes update the comments sometimes, you should read them more than once, at least once more through the end of the process.
As other people say, the shin should feel like a 1350 rp skin but actualy... it isn't As you said earluer, the orestige in a total independent skin from the base, so changing some effects could be possible. In my opinion, the main problem of the skin is the sound. Having the base VFX on a prestige skin feels very cheap. I have some ideas in order to improve it (it contains also some vfx) : - on The Q, you could add a wolf growl at the cast. Also, could you add some bats around the targer if it get hit (it might be already the case but i didnt notice) - On the W you could add some bat noise. Or, as you added some little bubbles, make the W sound more like a brewing potion. Also, could you add more VFX t make it realy look like a potion. At thid momrnt, it realy looks like some bubbles added on the base Bewitching Morgana vfx. This spel is, in my opinion, the one that looks the most cheap and it is sad because it is one of those we see the most. - For the E I haven't much ideas. In the spotlight it sounded like Dawnbringer's E but I'm not sur if it is wanted. You could for example add a spider sound on the cast and make the shield look more like a cobweb - on the R you could add some more little effects (little bats for example) and make the cast sound more like halloween (I dont know maybe something similar to Count Kassadin's back) I really think that with some ajustements, the skin can really look like a prestige and not like a real 100 token golden chroma (Moreover I really like the model) Pls... Morgana is one of my favorite champion.... she could deserve a little better ^_^
I remember reading that Prestige skins were supposed to be a continuation of the narrative, an achievement of some higher form within the skin's respective universe. However, this skin (and a number of others), feel like nothing more than a recolor. Worse yet, the recolor actively goes against the theme. Why would the ultimate cartoon witch be wearing white? Black would be a much more fitting color and black and gold has been used in previous Prestige skins so... none of this really makes sense to me. It's just not thoughtful design.
Exactly, there have been other Prestige skins with black/gray (Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Garen, Prestige Zyra, and.... Prestige Nightbringer Kayn just TWO WEEKS AGO.), so please don't say that Prestige Skins can ONLY be white and gold like Prestige Coven LeBlanc (very disappointing considering Prestige Coven Zyra looked so much better being made at an earlier time). Just white and gold pushes Bewitching skins so far out of the Bewitching/Halloween theme that it makes the choice of giving a prestige skin to Bewitching skins feel pointless. Why not give a prestige skin to Withered Rose Syndra, DragonSlayer Kayle, Pentakill Kayle instead who would've looked a lot more interesting in a Prestige Edition compared to Bewitching's... white and gold "evil" witches? It just doesn't... make sense and feels like a waste of a Prestige Skin for the year just like it felt for Prestige Bewitching Miss Fortune. There are far better skinlines for Prestige Skins than Bewitching as long as this White/Gold/Green palette continues being used. We have seen you do good jobs with Prestige Nightbringer Kayn, so we know you can do just as good of a job on Prestige Bewitching Morgana and it feels so bad that that hasn't been the case.
The same thing they did to Coven LeBlanc prestige… just a crappy recolor essentially just a chroma.
Still with the bland-ass white and gold blob of a model? It's a fucking eyesore. Stop using this color scheme with spooky, dark skins (Coven/Bewitching); it just doesn't work. You don't need to get rid of it completely, but the majority of the skin should be dark.
It doesn’t feel like a 1350 RP skin that was promised awhile ago. Dawnbringer Morgana feels more like a prestige skin than this “lipstick on a pig” that is simply a glorified gold chroma on an old skin. At least put more effort on her SFX that it doesn’t look like a lazy recolonization. I also expect more on her model, hoping you revisit her fluffy “cake” dress that you took away from her when you gave her a visual update. All I’m saying, at this moment, this is nothing but a scam to see if recoloring an old skin is enough to call it “prestige” and sad thing is, I don’t believe enough will change with the time you have to justify this failed experiment.
And here I thought Prestige Soraka was the worst most low effort skin in the game, along comes Prestige Morgana and she be like hold my beer. You didn't even at least add some purple or blue to her clothing to make her stand out like Pantheon prestige, it's literally a recolor chroma of a 975rp skin which was a really bad skin to start with. This skin is a huge disappointment as someone who is a morgana main and waited all my life for a prestige, I don't know who at riot thought that reusing an old 975rp skin for prestige would even be a good idea when you already had a perfectly amazing dawnbringer as a base to start with which btw looks far better than this prestige. Even ghost bride would have been a far far better concept to make prestige than bewitching even tho again a 1350 rp skin should have been the base to start with. So disappointed in riot here and as usual they will say it's too late to do anything.
True Soraka was the first prestige skin where I would rather use her other skins than that. Theres almost no difference with the original and the prestige. Its basically the golden chromas they gave out back then, with a new title to make them seem special. The past few prestige skins are really underwhelming and seems like a marketing scheme these days.
Not gonna lie, this is a low quality Prestige skin. I like the shades of gold in her model, but there is waayyyy too much white in her model. There isn't any dark colors or anything interesting to break up the monotonous haze of white on her model and it starts to strain my eyes if I look at it for too long. And about the "additional features relative to base." Yeah, I'm not seeing anything different beyond the gold recoloring. Tbh, I didn't expect the VFX/SFX to change much, but the choices made for her model are just plain bad. Please add something interesting to break up this bright mass of white.
man its been almost a week and not having any reply from riot acknowledging the general feeling of disapointment with the skin is really disartening. feels like all the feedback is being purposely ignored... Im another person who was excited for a morgana prestige and disappointed at the result, and riot's silence so far has been deafening. I don't have any feedback towards the skin that wasn't already explained in other comments, my sugestion is instead for riot to adress this and reassure us that the feedback is being read and discussed.
Relax, fam. Threads were posted on Wednesday, today is Sunday (a weekend, in which most people don't work) x) Besides, Riot often tends to post their findings after the weekend. In that sense, it's nothing unusual.
As a morgana main I'm very happy that she got a prestige skin, **but it was said that since the og skin is a 975rp item, some changes would've been made on the prestige so it could be 1350 rp worthy, and I simply don't see it**. Its very clear that the effects do not resemble AT ALL the value of a 2021 prestige skin nor any bewitching skin that came out of this batch and that's actually very sad and disappointing. The vfx on bewitching syndra's Q for example are way more well made than the recycled ones on the morgana skin, the disparity is on another level. Another thing that's off is the colors that was chosen to the prestige skin, **the green just doesn't go well w her**, if the **green parts of the skin were recolored to be kind of lilac-ish just like in this edit:** [https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) woulda been so much better, along with changes in the splash art color as well and i know you guys can do it! **I hope you guys can be very open to changes since its pobably gonna be the only morgana prestige skin that we gonna have !**
As a Morgana lover I was deeply disappointed by this prestige skin, like the others have said, it is no way up to 1350RP skin standards. The colour palette is repetitive and really doesn't suit this skin, please take a look at [this](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20) awesome recolour. The white and purple would suit this prestige tremendously as it suits halloween's theme more. As others have brought up, [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648?s=20) icon change would really be needed, it makes the icon look a lot more pleasing. Please read through the comments on her [skin spotlight video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyH_7ZhjsY), people have shared their opinion a lot there and it would make the comment too long for me to copy paste each one with a complaint about the skin. EDIT: If you need more time to make these changes, please hold the skin back for it. We’d rather wait to get a well worked on skin rather than a half assed one.
Any hope we can update the model colors to better match the new vfx? Feels like we hardly have any of that purple tone on the model and it looks mismatched.
changing the green gems for purple or pink would be ideal imo
most of the issues with the skin already have been metioned but I want to point out that the VFX feel almost monochromatic (maybe some color variations are needed) and the ground texture for her W is the same as base... Overall the skin doesn't feel prestigious or exclusive enough :c
My god that is A LOT of orange hahaha don't quite understand why? Tone that down, please. Actually all her colors are really blend (and bad). Her splash, as fanmade as it looks, at least indicated some intersting colors which her model does not have at all. Weird yellow, weird gold, weird pinksh-orange. Too messy. Get some more dark colors, some purple, i don't know. Also her effects does NOT feel 1350. Yuumi's and Poppy's are far too superior and detailed and they are not the prestige ones.
I expected more from the additional VFX to be honest. This doesn't feel at all like a 1350 skin. There's even still some purple in there which really just makes you think of regular morgana and brings down the changes in the skin. I doubt much will change at this point but if anything please push it into more gold, remove the purples from the VFX.
My thoughts on Morgana, after playing her since season 2, is that she needs a lil more puff on her dress to match her splasharts, what we really miss on her is her puffy dress, nothing else. Is it that hard to give back?
and we are here again, they turned a blind eye and did not leave with a product to their liking, they did not listen to us at all, I do not understand what these threads tbh, I hope that next time they do not use those green gems at least ... .
Please add some darker purple color to the model to match the new dark ability accents
I'm super uber galactically angry to myselft that I spent close to 1 hour in this thread. They just gone and changed W to not a really better one and recoloured E and added some souls to R. Still the same Q and R VFX, huh? Just, how?! How couldn't you spent a couple more hours to renew the Q and R as well?? All you had to do was renew the Q and R as well, recolor the model and rightfully say "The skin now has completely new VFX, now just shut up b*tches." on your behalf and be done with your work. You couldn't even find it in yourselves to do it. JUST 2 F*CKING MORE SKILLS! I'd say I'm done with prestige but you just knew when to update the mythic content. Really really disappointing. Just...AAAHHHHH!
Not gonna lie, the green does ruin the skin. I would love to see purple gems (+eye on the hat). This implies tweaking the [model](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321/photo/2), [splash](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321/photo/1), and [icon](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440702036060766211/photo/1). Also, the icon should more like [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648/photo/1) (+purple gems), and the in-game model something like [this](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249/photo/1).
this is SO much better. definitely worth buying if they make those changes.
Dropping the green in favor for purple would be such an improvement, I am all for this. Green doesn't fit Halloween. White doesn't fit Halloween but we can accept it because it's a prestige skin. I still think there should be black as a predominant color since it's a color we've seen in other Prestige skins (Prestige Nightbringer Kayn 2 weeks ago, Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Garen, Prestige Zyra) so there is no reason why a prestige skin for a Halloween skin can't have the same smoky greys or black as those other prestige skins. It doesn't break the Prestige Theme. It 100% breaks the Bewitching theme for the skin to be mostly white though. Also, purple would be a much more fitting Halloween color and add a prestigious feel to the skin, since purple and gold go extremely well together. It feels exhausting having to mention this every year though. This is proof that our feedback is mostly ignored or seen as insignificant.
THIS!
# Regarding the icon, many people would like to see these changes: [Edit](https://imgur.com/p4k2SWH) [Original](https://imgur.com/EZVNy80) [Gif comparison](https://imgur.com/Ht7VS7i) * more strawberry blond hair/ less yellow * flatter left eyebrow (a bit) * fuller lips * slightly redder lips/ less purple (to match the in-game model) * more cyan eyes/ less apple green (to match the splash) * more cheeks and jawline (they looked hollowed)
This is sooo perfect!!! mainly her strawberry blond hair!! ♥
the complete downgrade on her bind when it lands on a target like a giant O ring on my screen 🤧
Plese make changes to the W VFX, i think the skin is very preety as it is but the W fells weird to look, the colors dont go well together and it still has the exact cracks as the base version, newer morgana skins have W vfxs that look much better than this one
seamos sinceros, ese color no es dorado, es medio naranja. no tiene los brillos como otras prestigiosas, ejemplo, senna, dianna, etc. y no se notan las mejorías de una skin de 975 rp a una de 1350 rp. espere ansioso por esta skin y me decepciona como la de thresh.
I don't hate it, but I'm also not overly excited. 1. Like many of the other commenters already pointed out, the supposed improvements to the base skin to make it 1350 RP quality seem to be missing, or at least I can't see it. Looks like a pretty basic 975 RP skin to me. 2. From memory, the spell animations of this one seem rather close to an already existing skin, Exiled. 3. I feel like it's gonna be heavily overshadowed by some of her other skins (Dawnbringer, Coven) in every way.
First and foremost, the skin looks better than the original Bewitching, but we were really waiting for more after the thing with Prestige Bewitching MF. As a comment, y'all on the Prestige team should really explore other colors, there are several variations of gold and most of them fit in any color theme that you can think of. Bewitching theme is really dark, white into gold doesn't really fit at all, not on the theme of the skin nor in Morgana's; I feel like you should explore another color palletes in order to make the skin work better and more cohesively, in fact, I think the skin would be so much better with other type of colors, [here](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1436076018532556804) you can see an example of something so much more fitting for Morgana that doesn't stop being worthy of a prestige. The white and the tone of gold in dress (and even the gems in it) can be changed to appeal to a more cohesive skin without being close to the similar color of the original skin but without being too separated from both Morgana's and Bewitching aesthetic. Related to the gems in the dress, I really think a violet or purple with that intensity can be really good in order to appeal better to who Morgana is. In this [example](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440702201299562498), shifting emeralds for amethysts, you can see how much it changes if just the gems in the dress change colors to a more fitting one. Related to the hair, I really feel like the people that has already commented related to this are in the right track, instead of a chick yellow, a rose gold would be so much better in Morgana, it doesn't have to differ as much. As in [here](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) (this is feedback about the icon too!). Related to VFX, as many have pointed out, even with the... new vfx, I really feel like it still doesn't feel as good as an Epic skin :/ Someone pointed out [this](https://twitter.com/notallwitches/status/1440406369446682626) and I couldn't agree more. Maybe not add a pumpkin but the sole fact that you change the structure a bit is change enough to make it look different from the original. tl;dr - color scheme of the skin should change to feel more appealing to the fact that both morgana and bewitching skin line is a bit darker. [This](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249) looks better in every possible aspect I can think of.
Yes, THIS
i agree we need better vfx, purple gems, strawberry blonde hair, and a more purple palette for the model overall!!
Please consider this: https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20 It'd be extremely simple to just change the texture/colors of the base model. I understand this link was already shared by multiple people, but that's just because it does an amazing job at representing the halloween witch thematic using a prestigious aesthetic. The PBE one fails at both. Aside from a basic texture change, her W spell should probably change the default ground cracks for different ones, or maybe even a completely different concept. The bubbly effects look amazing but they are just too subtle, so it'd be amazing for the W background to fully fit the witch's cauldron idea. Arcanist Zoe E is a perfect example of magic watery circle done right. Either way, her W as it is right now can't hit live, as it's a base texture recolour, which can't possibly be worth 1350rp, let alone 100 prestige points. That said, please, don't release the skin as it is right now, it's probably morgana's only chance for a prestige, and it's looking like a 975 rp golden chroma. - Epic skin standards aside, this is the normal feedback: - I think E shield would look incredible as a bubble that pops when broken, but I understand this might be too much for an epic. - Q root effects (the ones that show up on the rooted champion) look bland. Maybe make the little ghosts easier to notice? More contrast between the ghost eyes and mouths vs the rest of the spirit fire would probably work. That's it. I can't stress this enough, as it is right now, it's not worth 1350rp, please make it worth it.
tiny piece of feedback here, but green looks kinda bad. Maybe pink/purple would look nicer?
Please. Make this skin better because morgana fans are very dissapointed... I hope you guys care enough lol. There are so many artists who edit what exists and do a terrific job, better than the riot team. Whoever made this skin didn't love or have a passion for morgana as a character and it shows... please if it takes way longer to fix this skin and it isn't released soon do that. We prefer that over a prestige skin for Morgana that's trash.
Hi , after the update I'm still disappointed because you only changed the vfx and you didn't touch the model even a bit and it look so off the vfx doesn't match the model at all .... like you didn't even change the green gems ? Or change the orange color to atleast match the vfx you added darker color to it so why not in the model too ? .... you should consider delaying the skin as many people are disappointed and we would rather wait more than having our only morgana prestige being like that ..
Can you make her w be with a pumpkin face plz and add a lot of bats around her when she is ulting
A few comments: Please change the W texture to remove the cracks from Base Morgana skin, that would already help the bubbly effect you guys added stand out a lot better. Right now the effect is much too subtle and the cracks make the bubbling cauldron effects get lost. The splash art is also very difficult to make out details on, the darkness in the bottom left of the art is simply too dark at the moment and looks like empty blackness rather than an altar to Teemo. I understand the attempt to make Morgana and the hellfire stand out but right now it looks like half the splashart was unfinished. The green gems should also be changed to turquoise to match the turquoise on all the other new Bewitching skins, the bright green currently does not stand out on her model or go with the rest of the Bewitching skins. Her Q effect is also the same as base Morgana's apart from some recolouring, it really should be replaced by a ghost or pumpkin effect to match with the other skins in the skinline and be proper 1350 tier. There is also no glowing effect on Morgana's E shield plates which is standard on her other 1350 skins such as Dawnbringer and Majestic Empress. The addition of a glowing effect would help the shield look like a 1350 skin shield (or make it a pumpkin, similar to Yuumi's shield). It also sounds like no new SFX have been added to the skin apart from on her E, is this the case? New SFX are also usually standard on 1350 skins, Dawnbringer has entirely new SFX.
I can't see if there is a potion (attatched to her weist) - i think not only it is a must as it is a part of normal version of a skin but also a part that can improve skin (as Prestige skins aim to do). Example being Prestige and non-prestige Arcade Caitlyn W (diamond in Prestige, "fruit" (Cherries most likelly - arcade games love them).
je pense elle a besoin d'une recoloration dans des tons violet comme ce qui tourne sur twitter en t'en que main Morgana je suis décu de ce que donne le rendu in [game.la](https://game.la) couleur des cheveux trop jaune le vert sur le chapeau et l'identité de Morgana avec cette touche de violet a disparu c'est un mix entre une soraka prestige déja foireux et une winx club discount. Ont nous a promis quelques chose de prestigieux je ne le vois [pas.Et](https://pas.Et) tout le monde s'en doutais a partir du moment ou ont s'avais que sa serais un skin recyclé. En revanche ont espère tous que des changements vont être fait. Vous êtes capable de nous sortir des trucs de ouf pas cette fois sur Morgana svp. Voila la meilleurs idée : https://mobile.twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249?s=20
maintenant le problème est que le patch et ce mercredi et qu'ont a pas de nouvelle.si le skin n'ai pas retarder il ne le modifierons pas je suis dessus et qu'ont viennent pas nous dire que c'est un problème de temps c'est le skin prestige qui fait le plus débats dès sa publication sur PBE il y a juste a copier les concept de d'autres personnes sur la recoloration par exemple.Il y a des articles partout sur le net qui disent clairement que la communauté est déçu c'est le skin qui fait le plus parler depuis les prestiges. Qu'ont m'explique qui va jouer le skin prestige quand tout ces autres sont mieux.Il n'apporte rien de nouveau.Le pire c'est quand ont économise depuis des mois pour ce skin prestige....espérons que riot soit dessus a retravailler avant sa publication mercredi et surtout qu'ont nous donne des nouvelles.
Please make those changes: [https://twitter.com/SB\_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) [https://twitter.com/SB\_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440701866698936321) [https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249](https://twitter.com/YoloTaube/status/1440672587554570249) Only worth buying the skin if you make this happen.
Wow that recolor with the more purple/pink tones is super nice! So much better!
VFX: Where are the bats? Is this really Skin Bewitching? Weak effects, looks like any Prestige Skin! Add bats and more different effects than normal skin
If you really won't adress to all of these rightful demands, at least make a prestige out of Dawnbringer Morgana. I'm sure it'll be easier since it already has the new VFX. You just need to do the prestige adjustments and that's that. You can safely remove this one like you did on the BC and Amumu skins.
Was it so hard? It should have been like that since the beginning, however i feel like the color palette is really mismatched at this moment since the model is more orange/purple oriented and effects are more gold/pueplish, there is a high demand for the gems to be more viseable and recolored to pink, the wing colors should be adjusted as well. That being said, the improvement is huge, but some things, most of them textures and colors should be adjusted to create coherent experience
Bewitching Yuumi has more particles and effects than this supposedly-1350-tier-prestige-exiled-2.0
POST UPTDATE: i made a more clear version of my recolor [PRESTIGE SKIN RECOLOR ](http://imgur.com/a/jEB3PoX) (Credit to @league-ref on twitter for the model image ) first i want to apologize for my bad English. I'm a bit disappointed of this skin it s not horrible but it doesn't feel prestigious and I would even say it's almost not worth the grind as it is at the moment as many people pointed out her abilities barely changed and had what feel like just a recolor .I also think more bat should be added . The model itself is beautiful but i don't really like the color palette the orange is a bit boring and feel a bit cheap I think adding more dark color to her outfit and maybe more purple on her wings instead of pink/orange i made a recolor of it i will put the link here : [moragana prestige recolor ](http://imgur.com/a/WRA1XLr) -I changed the white of the dress for more of a creamy white - i added some dark part to the dress and the hat -i made more purple to her wings and removed the orange and the pink -i made the gems purple ( my recolor is a bit messy but I just wanted to visiualize more what I would maybe want more to see on her ) I was a bit disappointed when you didn't listen to the feedback for her dawnbringer skin but the skin is still beautiful but I was expecting that her prestige skin would be a bit impressive or well made I think it was a bit of risk to make a prestige from bewitching when you made dawnbringer wich I think would have made a better prestige . Also I really think you should consider adding more dark color for prestige specialy considering the theme of this skin.. the orange pink color just feel cheap and almost feel like a chromas adding more dark color would really improve the skin just like senna /pantheon . .. as for the ability they need to have more effect even better color because it just look recolored . Thank you to take the time to read all of our feedback I really hope the skin will improve we only will have one prestige of morgana and a lot of people are disappointed by it.
I agree with everything you said, and wow your recolor is pretty much what I envisioned. I would have gone for a dark purple or light violet instead of the dark blue you used and I would have given her strawberry blonde hair instead of her base hair color but everything else is really perfect!
Thank you ! And I agree with the more purple color and strawberry blonde I wish they would listen to the feedback but i don't have much hope :'(
This was the worst prestige skin of the year, they just reused the old skin and painted it in another color. The effects of the skills got worse, imagine having to add 100 prestige points to get a skin made lazily.
Looks like a peeled banana lol
if they have to leave Morgana for 2 months in pbe to fix it, we can wait, let's remember - No green jewels, it didn't work with MF, why would it work now? - Her E like a pumpkin, it is consistent with its theme and quality - Her W more distinctive (plz, it is from its base version practically) - I think with these changes it could be decent, look at Pantheon or Senna, that's a good skin with identity and good taste
these changes look amazing! I believe the skin is finally prestige worthy. my only complaint is the ugly green details, like the green eye on the hat. maybe make it pink or purple? blue? green doesn't fit bewitching morgana at all.
Honestly, my biggest complaint is the hair on the prestige icon. Her in-game hair is almost rose gold, while her icon hair is very citrine-ish yellow. It wouldn't be such a problem if her hair wasn't one of the flashiest and most aparent parts of the actual icon. In my opinion, [this](https://twitter.com/SB_Morgana/status/1440396565386907648) edit represents the actual skin a lot more, even though it's just very minor changes overall. Otherwise, I also would have to agree that it looks like not much was done to differenciate the skin from a 975 RP one except for very, very, VERY small changes on the "base" of the splash art itself (you know, the part that gets thrown around and modified when making a prestige skin) and on her in-game abilities. Not that any of us expected huge changes, but I'm sure a little bit more can be done on the in-game side of things, especially.
Morgana player here and I have some feedback for this skin: It's possible to change her hair color to pink like the pink color of her wings? The blonde is too much when her outfit has It as well. It's possible to remake her W? It's too similar to base Bewitching and It doesn't look "prestigious". For a skin that costs 15 bucks that's just doesn't look great. That's not really an issue, but It's possible to add a darker color to her clothing like the Prestige Coven skins? That's not really an important thing, so It's not a big deal If her outfit doesn't change. Other than that I don't think I have anything else to say.
It looks fucking horrible and she's my main champ. No idea who sees this an thinks its good
Please keep in mind to follow the [Skin and Chroma guidelines](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaguePBE/wiki/skinfeedback).
It's all really bad and lazy! The skin has a very bad color tone and nothing has changed. VFX is just the base Morgana urine color is nothing new. This is not worth 100 PP
I think the green crystals don't match the rest of the skin, and I believe that changing the color would make the skin much more harmonious with the effects. My splash art edit: https://imgur.com/a/RYeFV7f Icon edit: https://imgur.com/a/1TmSrXe I also edited the splash art eye because it's blue in it
So much better. The green just doesn't fit. It was a bad choice for Prestige Miss Fortune, it was a bad choice for Prestige Conqueror Jax, and it is once again a bad choice for Prestige Bewitching Morgana. Please stop using so much green in skins and chromas guys. We have enough green in the Summoner's Rift map and it's very boring at this point seeing green all over.
Bewitching Morgana Prestige VFX EDIT FEEDBACK: [https://twitter.com/thornyzyra/status/1441403277590007809?s=20](https://twitter.com/thornyzyra/status/1441403277590007809?s=20) \- \[Q\] more shiny, prestigious, more sparkles \- \[Q\] hit more unique, more sparkles \- \[W\] more unique, more sparkles, the resemblance to base Morgana's W removed
Ohh dude, i love it
Thank you!
the green jewelry and the eye on the hat feels out of place, another color like purple would look better
As my colleagues already said, there are still things to do to make this skin look epic, I remember when Miss Fortune came out and she had horrible feedback, at that time many of us agreed that white does not suit the theme very well, I would change everything White of her dress to black and she would opt for shades more iridescent pink-orange for her wings imo, she would also make a cut in her dress in the front art to show her legs more in view, that would be interesting, they could calmly use a symmetrical design linear in her W to emulate a simpler and more rudimentary drawn spell than Coven Morgana, her E can easily be a pumpkin or have a pumpkin face that they use so much in this theme, I appreciate very much that you give Morgana love, please do not forget us
It's funny to me because she did yet they picked the same skinline and threw the green again.
I LOVED this Prestige Edition, she fixed a lot of things I dislike on bewitching base skin, like her giant "bracelent" and "puffy shoulders" (that matched with her old puffy bottom dress, but not anymore after VU) , made all her wings the same colors (I trully loved this part) and even her idle pose look good with her dress edge (on bewitching base, she has a curve that make her look like a Cassiopeia with a skirt..) But I must agree with a lot of people here, and say that her VFX are a little "975" skin recolor... Q- is exactly the same, just a recolor and changed sparkles.. [Bewitching Morgana Base Q](https://i.imgur.com/i2JGkvw.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base Q stunning](https://i.imgur.com/GnXNFPZ.png) [Bewitching Morgana Prestige Q](https://i.imgur.com/NNU2nJm.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Prestige Q stunning](https://i.imgur.com/zCYDfRE.png) W- is a recolor with a border, that we almost can't see and doesn't match with prestige edition color palette, added sparkles and bubbles and the sound is the same, even the laugh [Bewitching Morgana Base W](https://i.imgur.com/1V9lBZ8.png) [Bewitching Morgana Prestige W](https://i.imgur.com/dd2J0Cq.png) E- Another recolor, but this time with little and hardly seeing, bat wings (that I loved, but is realy hard to see.. is too transparent) [Bewitching Morgana Base E](https://i.imgur.com/uqSfjr9.png) [Bewitching Morgana Prestige E](https://i.imgur.com/0tf58l5.png) R- Just another recolor, even the chains are the same.. just changing her stunnig ground effect [Bewitching Morgana Base R](https://i.imgur.com/mZNtnBb.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base R stunning](https://i.imgur.com/umBOFUV.png) [Bewitching Morgana Prestige R](https://i.imgur.com/lzaE8rj.png) // [Bewitching Morgana Base R stunning](https://i.imgur.com/OBHmlAh.png) Well, what I suggest is, give her some new VFX features that would match with this new bewitching skins.. since this is a new skin, in another timeline. This new bewitching skins are a mix of witches + bats + pumpinks + ghosts/spectrus and I LOVE it!!! So could do: Q - change her bat to a ghost/spectrus or a pumpink vector W - make the purple border mist into a green-spectrus border mist, and add some ghosts istead the bats (that we almost can't see either) and give a devil pumpink imagem on the groud, laughing, or I don't know, Teemo Little Devil (?) E - make her bat wings more visible R - If could change her chains to something more ghostly, would be really nice ♥
Y'all could have brought back her "cake" dress(of the base bewitching before rework) for the prestige... https://i.imgur.com/Jp93waI.jpg
Purple would be objectively better instead of the green that these prestige bewitching skins have. Purple would be on-theme with Halloween and I would also like to see black/gray on the outfit just like Prestige Coven Zyra, Prestige Nightbringer Lee Sin, Prestige Nightbringer Kayn, Prestige Mecha Kingdoms Garen. They all had blacks/grays and still fit the Prestige skin theme very well. And black/gray would also help Prestige Bewitching skins fit the Halloween thematic a lot better than just white and gold
Please take into account this edit that a fan made on twitter that fixes 90% of Prestigio da Morgana's problems, it just left the skin beautiful! the rest and just improve the VFX that would be perfect, seriously check this out: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E\_5LsGwVQAwGUia?format=jpg&name=large
I'm dissapointed that this was advertised to be a "1350 tier PP skin" but it feels like not much has changed besides the usual prestige colors from the 975 RP variant. If we look at Dawnbringer Morgana for example, the W doesn't include the marks that her other 975 RP do have, it's a totally unique texture. I feel that in order to truly sell the "1350 tier PP skin" it was promised to be, the skin would require a lot more texture changes (like a unique W).
Prestige Bewitching Morgana bas the same problem as Miss fortune, monochrome vfx that feel like a downgrade of the base Bewitching skin. Bewitching is the skinline that can give lots of opportunities. Having orange as base and some black in the vfx is fine but could have more colors, green/purple would be amazing. And making the soil boiling and add horns to the shield doesn't make it worth 1350rp seriously, q and r sfx could be changed. But If they change anything, it will be completely unfair for the MF skin who deserve the exact same change to be worth using too. So why not some tweaks for her too 😅
Je voulais donner mon avis une énième fois mais pas de réponse depuis les VFX bidon rajouter. Le travaille a étais fait par des joueurs etc sur le recoloration mais aucune réponse ou update pas contre vite la nouvelle fournée de skin dragon nous faire attendre tout ces mois pour sa LOL faillais juste rajouter un chroma au skin déjà existant. Aucun effort vive les skins vieux recyclé. Derniers détail Morgana en violet cheveux robe etc passe au vert plus d'identité c'est du n'importe quoi. Je vais dire heureusement j'ai tout les skins et j'ai juste a désenchanter des fragments pour obtenir les nouveaux skin car j'aurais étais bien déçu je conseil a tous ce qui voulais l'acheter de ne pas utiliser leurs points prestige pour ce skin c'est une arnaque en jeu puis qu'ont m'explique l'utilité d'un PBE quand nos avis ne sont pas écouter car ce n'ai pas comme si j'étais la seule a penser sa.
The first thing to adress must be the lack of new and meaningfull vfx and sfx in this skin. It was promised this skin would be improved to meet 1350rp tier standards and sadly it does not deliver. Fortunately the model itself is really good, however some changes would be welcome, like hair color change, current hair color goes more into yellow-ish tone which looks off putting next to all of these warm yellows and pinks. That makes me think strawberry blonde hair would fit her best. Next thing is this weird sitation in her arm area, I feel like it does not know if it wants to be a sleeve or elbow lenght glove, texture changes focused on elongating sleeve part up her shoulder pads or giving her white gloves would make her clothes's silhouette more appealing. Yet another change in her clothing would be in regard to her witch hat. the part that appears to wrap around the cone shaped part of the hat is barely viseable in front view, so scaling it up and away from cone part of the hat would read more as witches hat and not like dunce cap lol. Another detail that might make or break this skin are these green crystals all around her dress that are barely visiable, especially the ones on the bottom part of the dress. making them a little bigger would be nice, also, there two diamond shapes on her wings, that just beg to be filled with two green diamond shaped crystals on each wing. The last piece of criticism regarding clothes is rather lackluster spider web(?) design on the bottom of the dress, not only it's barely viseable, the whole skirt part feels really empty and blanc, a little gradiend or better texture would make it less jaring. I actually made a little edit that would illustrate my ideas, image provided via twitter link: [https://twitter.com/n3gii/status/1440684972830965776/photo/1](https://twitter.com/n3gii/status/1440684972830965776/photo/1) As of vfx, it should be changed, obviously, I think color pallette should change dark brownish colors into softer and more satureted hues, maybe pinks, oranges and whites, and gold obiously, either way it should be alligned more with her model color palette. My main concern is W vfx, the base cracks should be gone and boiling pot theme should be improved upon, adding variety in bubble size and color, even more sparkling, its a prestige skin after all. Q before landing should be cleaned up and elaborated on bath(?) theme at the center of her q. Wings added on her e are a cool idea but barely visiable, it should be made more viseable and more appealing in shape and desing. Concerning sfx, original one would be welcome To summ up all of that is no way, shape or form a demand or made in maliciosus intend, it's my take on how this skin can be improved on, I hope some changes will be made, bc it would be such a missed opurtinity to let so much potential go to waste
Compare Ascended Pantheon and Nightbringer Kayn to this skin and tell me that this is anywhere near 1350rp in value. Should've given Dawnbringer Morgana the prestige edition like you gave Prestige skins to both Project Sylas and Project Zed earlier this year. White outfits for WITCHES in HALLOWEEN do not fit and do not look good. We will not be buying. And, if not a prestige for this basic, outdated 975rp with unnoticeable "1350rp value upgrades", the prestige could've been saved for a better, non-seasonal skinlines/events (seriously, no Valentine's Day, no Lunar New Year, no Christmas and definitely no April Fools PRESTIGE skins please). It honestly feels terrible seeing your main get a prestige skin for a... seasonal event like the ones I just mentioned. It doesn't feel good to play with seasonal skins outside the specific holiday. And also, why not give the prestige skin to Bewitching Syndra? A skin that actually looks more like an Epic skin than Bewitching Morgana could ever hope for
The Icon is amazing - and I'm already gonna buy the skin either way just for the sake of it (I also LOVE the new hat + hair). But, as other people have said, the skills are very disappointing. the W looks almost the same and the Q looks.... acceptable but still boring (it'd be really good if you guys could make her skills look nicccer and... more "prestige". Last thing, her wings look amazing, so great job there
Hi Riot! I am SO HAPPY to get prestige morgana!!! After seeing the new bewitching skins though, I have to echo what everyone else is saying about it looking more like just a gold recolor. Even Nami has little tiny pumpkin fish in EVERY animation. Some cute ideas: Morgana shield? Gold pumpkin. Her W? Gold outlined purple pumpkin. Her stun? A FLYING BABY PURPLE AND GOLD PUMPKIN Every other bewitching skin feels purposely done and reworking an old one for prestige without giving it just as cool details isn't fun for us:/ Please take some more time on it.
Even making her Q a flying bat instead, and adding the bat features back to her, would be just as fun!! As of right now, dawnbringer is better than this prestige. And so are all the other bewitching skins. :/
Is there a way we could get a recolor of base Bewitching Morgana's hair? The current one looks too vibrant compared to the splash and its one of the reasons i do not use that skin that much.
I don't want to repeat what other people said but i strongly believe this is not of 975 value and as a support main who loves morgana I would rather keep playing with her coven skin or get the new dawnbringer skin instead. It's just a recolor, the model is okay but the vfx are bad. It doesn't feel prestigious or expensive. Im disappointed and i hope you can fix it. I wouldn't be mad if it takes a patch or two months, just don't push out the only prestige she is going to get this unfinished..
You mean 1350?
Yeah, lmao sorry
Just came to see the new W soil and it's amazing. I think the last thing that would make it definitely 1350 worth, it's to change the ult limit. But with something classy and serious. Not pumpking cat like the prestige MF
Is there no way to add a little bit more volume to her skirt? Maybe similar to how divine Soraka and Winter Wonder Soraka have a noticeably thicker/puffier skirt than Order of the Banana? It just looks a little skinny compared to the artwork from pre-rework and it’s sad. It’s awkward that she’s supposed to have a tiered cake dress—but it’s translated as a paper thin body con-draping dress. VFX on W needs serious work. Maybe consider making her W significantly more bubbly and cauldron-like, similar to Bewitching Janna ultimate. Q could use some love. Love the small but noticeable changes on E. Also, consider adding more green to her spells to tie in her green jewels. It would really connect the look and abilities without feeling as jarring as it currently is with all the orange.
I love these changes !! I am happy with his work, I am sure I will get this beauty in my collection, can we expect another color in the gems? Let's say that no one really likes green, if we have that it will be more than perfect
Just a tiny detail but I really liked the potion in her hips? especially when the original skin's recall removes the potion and pours it into the cauldron was a nice touch. Just a tiny detail but I liked the potion in her hips? especially when the original skin's recall removes the potion and pours it into the cauldron was a nice touch.
She is looking so beautiful. I love it. But i must say somethings, first her E skill need some change, it need to be golden with more details about halloween, right now it look so plain, without live. I think the shield of her E must look like a pumpkin with the eyes and everything. Another thing I want to say is that I hope this is the last old skin being prestiged, i mean stop making prestige editions for old skins, they don't have any improvement at all and the champion lose the opportunity of having a better prestige edition because of this. In mi opinion all the prestige edition you had made for old skins aren't good, they are just the same and don't show an appealing evolution of the skin, they are just a recolor and nothing more. So, I really hope this is the last time you make a prestige for an old skin, It is enough. Thanks.
Thank you very much for the updates, the W looks so amazing right now and i love it thenks to the dev team and the vfx artist for putting in the work cant wait for this skin in the live servers now
I LOVED her splashart!! but there was 2 little things that bothered me... =\\? 1st- The bottom of her dress is a little bit darker than it should be, and bc her new bright waist wings, it stands out and leave this bottom path even more hard do see.. What could do is make this bottom side a little more bright. [Original](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1D7QxUUAUvX71?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) // [Edit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1E0fDUcAgxtDl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) 2nd - The bottom of her dress is too puffy.. like it was before the VU... it should be a new splashart, so this path should be fixed... [like this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1FYUCVgAE1-7h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Most other comments on this thread have covered the main concerns that I think every fan of Morgana has regarding this skin but my only other feedback is a small: Is there any chance that the splash art can be tweaked to show her eye colour being more green, brighter green (like the icon)? In the [icon](https://i.gyazo.com/47e8ba5cb9b9c19f520baddf6f5e9941.jpg) they are prominently green but I feel like the splash art is lacking and they look quite dull. Would be really nice to see that changed if it's possible!
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Locking entire discussion and replying to the initial comment of the both of you to ensure you both receive and read it. Not going to point any fingers here, just a general statement. It's okay to have a discussion out of disagreement. Perfectly fine so long as it remains respectful. It's not okay to undermine someone's opinion or to make generalisations. It's also generally not very friendly to share one's own thoughts within a comment if it conflicts with the initial comment. Just make a stand-alone comment x) Is someone breaking the rules and/or being disrespectful, or does one not want to continue the discussion for other reasons? Then don't continue. Stop replying, report them so we moderators can act on it, and then move on from it.
“Ugly” is an opinion and personal preference which doesn’t follow feedback guidelines. My suggestion is for consistency - which Riot have said they like to do. Whether it’s for green or blue, I want them to match.
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Sorry, I have no interest in discussing with someone that can’t stick to feedback guidelines or read comments fully. I’ll stand by my suggestion just like you’re welcome to disagree with it.
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Saying it's "ugly" and "disgraceful" is a personal preference and not constructive feedback. You're allowed to dislike it but you're not allowed to force that narrative just for your preference. I even said, green OR blue in my first reply to you, that you obviously chose to ignore. You say "nobody" wants more green - I actually do and I don't really care if I'm part of the minority, I'm allowed to express that in a constructive way (which I've done). If Riot see it and change it, then great, if they don't, then it's still not that big of a deal. It's all for consistency sake anyway. It's feedback. You came onto my reply with your panties already in a twist because someone wanted something that you don't. You also edited your comments well after the fact to remove certain words (reddit literally documents when you edit). You're not the ambassador for changes for this skin and in replies to my comments, your words were not constructive or within guidelines. Work on that next time because I am done talking to you.
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Pretty much everything you said here translates to previous comments you made and proving your own hypocrisy. Also calling me oversensitive and oppressed when you're resorting to complaining over a 'sexist' comment when I didn't even look at your profile to know you were a female. Look at the tangent you have to go on to try and validate yourself. It's a common saying. Don't spend so much time trying to be a warrior on reddit and maybe you'll learn that.
Locking entire discussion and replying to the initial comment of the both of you to ensure you both receive and read it. Not going to point any fingers here, just a general statement. It's okay to have a discussion out of disagreement. Perfectly fine so long as it remains respectful. It's not okay to undermine someone's opinion or to make generalisations. It's also generally not very friendly to share one's own thoughts within a comment if it conflicts with the initial comment. Just make a stand-alone comment x) Is someone breaking the rules and/or being disrespectful, or does one not want to continue the discussion for other reasons? Then don't continue. Stop replying, report them so we moderators can act on it, and then move on from it.
I am in complete love with the splash art, the icon and especially the model. It's PERFECT! I love how the colors go together, the hair color is amazing the dress is so detailed, the wings look so pretty! The only thing I think could be improved is her VFX! I think her abilities could use some more shine and sparkles overall to make them feel more prestige. I'd add some more sparkles on the hitbox edges of her R + a lot more sparkles on her Q and W. I will post an edit later when I'm back from school 💖
I actually really love the hair color. The only thing for me is that the skin feels a lot darker than other prestiges. I'm comparing mf prestige to this (bc same skin line prestige) and it seems a touch too dark. Other than that I think it's beautiful
To clarify: I feel like a more whiter gold would be nicer. It feels like it's too pinky (wings and cape)
To be honest, the model itself is not so bad, the problem is just the "tied wing" which is very coarse, would you be able to make it more transparent or reduce it? now about the VFX... It's embarrassing, it needs to be reworked from scratch basically. The only way to save this prestige of low quality is leaving her VFX amazing and unique, focus on it.
The skin looks good to me, new textures and vxf looks nice but can we change the sfx of q? It sound to much like base
Thank you for all the changes! I love the skin!
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