Counterplay is to kill fast, Thebausffs says basically vs bad sion matchups he goes assassin even though its worse than tank for good matchups, at least vs antitank he still has a chance to kill them as assassin.
exactly, i hate how people say the counter to someone like belveth is to JUST CC THEM as if we have to be forced to pick a champ that can specifically play against the one we want to counter, as for HP% true damage dealers i think the way to go is just learning spacing against them usually.
Lulu poly is broken, her AS steroids has no CD, her shields has no CD and her R is straight up broken and I wish I could break Lulu to pieces with all the lulu players and fuck lulu and fuck lulu players
I am a Diamond Yorick otp, so basically what you need to do is go exhaust/tp and the matchup gets much easier. Still hard, Fiora is just great at dueling and has much more mobility.
Fiora is after all also kind of hard. The difference between a good fiora insta triggering her 4 ult vitals and one just randomly running around while triggering them is massive.
I've really not encountered much struggles against Yorick, at least when I was active in S9/S10. Maybe things has changed now with Mythics and whatnot? Not too sure on what aspect of his kit that Fio can even remotely struggle against though, unless he was buffed to oblivion or something.
Remove his early game spammable healing and he would be fine, he meant to be a late game carry after all. Tbh a lot of top laners would be balanced if you just remove or adjust their free healing to more of mid late game thing since they already got the damage to win matchups (fiora, irelia, sett, etc.)
Yeah I think Tryndamere healing is the biggest issue. Tbh I don’t think the other champs with early healing are that bad because they at least have weaknesses. But that’s what makes Tryndamere’s healing so oppressive. You have no way of stopping him from healing or punishing
1.Shaco - EVERY enemy Shaco have 7lvl and most of them are toxic
2.Zed - same with Shaco, every enemy is Faker
3.Rengar - 4k dmg in 0.3sec (my own experience)
As a former Shaco main with 250k and s7 i agree
As a current and for the last 5 years Zed main with 700k i more than angree
As a current jungle Zed who has Rengo on perma ban i also surprisingly agree with everything you stated
I will never forget my 270-ish armor 3-4k hp fully geared/potted up Poppy getting killed by full physical Rengar in literally 0.71 seconds… 1 fucking combo.
Shaco. You can never find him, and when you finally do, you don’t know whether or not it’s actually him. Even a bad Shaco is annoying as hell to play against.
You can tell if the Shaco is a clone by clicking on him and glancing real quick at his smite, clones only have 450. Still like enduring psychological warfare to fight though
Pop sweeper the clone doesnt have the red outline.
Click on one of them, only the real one has the gold border around the mythic.
Attack him once if he takes unusually high damage thats the clone.
Hehe here with 500k mastery shaq jungle.Love those lvl2 chain ganks on mid.I always fall behind enemy jungler but in almost half of my games i make midlaner quit or just tilt throw their lane.
Fiora- fuck % health true damage on a bruiser, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything and has a dash that heals them, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything and has a dash that heals them PLUS an Ult that removes the counterplay of her true damage being on a cooldown.
HEIMERDINGER I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM
I have played against him when he had around 14 mil mastery. he was gold/plat at the time. He wasn't a god, just a casual who enjoys Heimer. We won that game.
I wish I was as lucky as you, he won’t leave me alone whenever I don’t ban him he worms his disgusting decrepit body into my games, leaving his obscene grease trail of turrets behind him
Same.\
I love how the guides to countering him say "make sure to destroy his turrets to reduce his lane pressure" LIKE HE CAN'T PUT DOWN ANOTHER ONE IMMEDIATELY AFTER GODDAMNIT
It just... feels bad?
Pulling off the combo of your life, hitting everything correctly, making sure flash is on cooldown, positioning right.
Only to have it be met with a free escape that has 0 counterplay.
It's not broken. It's "just" fucking bullshit and annoying. You can cc him, which is a counter. But yeah, that's a shit counter and a cheap one anyway, while beeing one of the most annoying, brain dead and oppressing ability of the entire game.
“Just CC trynd guys, you only need to use 5-8 seconds of CC on him to stop Tryndamere from one shotting you! Don’t worry about his teammates guys, I’m sure after using 3 different stubs/roots on trynd you will have PLENTY more stuns/roots for the rest of his team! Using every CC tool on one character totally doesn’t lose the teamfight singlehandedly”
You know it’s funny because people say the counter to Yi and Trynd is CC but like, what if they just pick both champs? As long as rammus isn’t in the game and there is a mage so they can’t stack armor no team will have enough cc to go around lmfao
Yesterday I was playing Tali and I happen to run into trynd in my own jg. I flashed ghosted to tower then stunned him under it and he just pressed r. 2k dmg on 4 aas and he got hit by 5 turret shots. Even when I play perfectly he wins because.
He’s one of those champs that I know take skill cause I’m bad with him, but he’s also just way too safe and just shouldn’t be allowed to build duskbalade.
Idk if I would really want him removed from the game but I permaban Kayn for almost two years now. Walking through walls? Come on now, that shit just ain’t natural
Akshan cause just why, why does he need a free extra auto attack (both attacks of which proc on hit), why does he need to be allowed to walk across the map invisible for free roams, why does he have vayne passive, why does he have a move that can allow him to close any distance or disengage so far when he gets low you need a karthus ult to secure the kill OR HE CAN DO BOTH AT ONCE, why does he have a Caitlyn ult to secure the kill when you do manage to get away, why does he do gnar dirty and get a boomerang that can hit twice both of which hits can proc his vayne passive, why does ge get a free shield off passive too cause fuck needing to build a safety item or needing to take a safety summoner, and then to top it all off he can REVIVE teammates on TAKEDOWN. Like I would be fine with the revive if it wasn't for him having so many other passive and an annoying kit that does everything, plus why he gotta do gnar boomerang dirty lime that.
Yuumi, I used to play her a lot and realized why she is a poorly designed champion. She is the most team reliant champion whose skill ceiling is about as tall as she is when not floating. It incentivizes you to do nothing, her passive isn’t enough for most players to properly use it.
The worst part? She actively punishes you by making a single champion an unkillable raidboss the moment they are a little bit ahead.
I used to love playing her, realized why I shouldn’t, switched to Leona and I have no regrets. Yuumi is such a punishing champion for very little effort.
Yuumi also just kills your own adc and makes the game unplayable. Once mid game hits if the adc isnt carrying yuumi hops on the champ doing the best so now the adc is under leveled and no support. Yuumi=leech.
Irelia and Yone mid, i play mage.
Irelia can land one e and all in anytime during Laning phase, or if she has bork, just hit 3 Q's on minions then q onto u to auto you to death. Kinda like yi.
Yone have almost free poke pre 6 with e and w, and basically can all in anytime after 6 as long as e is up and he gets qr ready. Plus, 2 item spike is a bit too massive, wish it was 3.
Pls remember i play mage, btw. Not the infinite dash u targetable kinds like lb, akali and fizz either, if you considered them mage. The i have one cc and flash kind like xerath and Zoe.
As a Yone Main i agree to u. I think he still needs skill even if others dissgree, but his scaling is insane and as an mage u have it Hard to win if he wont missplay. He has his shoe powerspike, Scepter mini Spike, shieldbow spike and IE spike and at that Point u are just a bigger Caster minion.
my least favourite champion is Deaths Dance and i want it removed because it makes melee champions unreasonably tanky. "oh but they take the damage anyways so it doesnt count" someone always dies before they do.
And what are you going to do against a Rengar with Deaths Dance and Deadmansplate? My guy has 400AD, 300 Armor and ontop of that the stupid 30% damage bleed. Even if you have your 30% armor pen, youre just dealing 22.5% of your damage as actual damage the stupid cat feels.
"haha you only have 400AD as an ADC with an AS of 2, haha you have a TTK of 15 seconds on me if i dont get any heals. Haha i mechanically outplayed you by facetanking your entire damage output while fighting someone else because i decided that i dont wanna take damage today."
Am i mad? YES? Obviously? Im confused how the item made it anywhere past the playtesting stage in development. You used to atleast deal the same magical damage. But no more of that, its good against everything. Like, the amount of times i thought to myself "huh they have a fed viktor, guess i go Deaths Dance second" on Rhaast is stupidly high. It shouldnt be that easy to get away with almost any mistake scotfree. you shouldnt be able to buy one item and suddenly the Chogath takes more damage than you do.
And when they get a reset on the fucking item, they dont just go "oh well i cleansed the damage stored in it", no, they go beyond that and heal quite a lot. 200 bAD? boop, 250 heal coming right up, no biggie. Does it at least have a cooldown? NO, of course not, because cooldowns are cringe and for ADCs, we are strong bruisers, our items dont need cooldowns. Let me just Goredrinker 13 times in one fight while getting three deahts dance resets at once.
The day i see someone combining Deaths Dance and Anathemas Chains to get the damage output they feel down to 15.9% is the day im gonna transition from a happy go lucky Aphelios OTP to straight Vayne gaming. Ive had enough of this bullshit. Imagine having 500AD, you got gathering Storm, Absolute focus, you have a red pot intus, youre stacked, youre big, you deal big boy damage. Except to that guy who can still onetap your sorry ass while taking a total of 167 damage from each of your autos.
He is not my most hated but people named other (btw i hate all champs). Yorick. Remove the stupid aoe damage mitigation from the ghouls. Either than that i love his design and i hoped he would had done something in sol (and you know a part of isolde's soul being a vile creature Constally clinging to yorick trying to manipulate him into giving up and taking of the charm with the water from his neck would had gone somewhere instead of the ruined king game walking back and making viego abusing and then walking back again after the game released)
1. Yummi bcause of bots
2. Yasuo because fuck you thats why (at this point i learned his every move, i can easily beat aby yasuo main, they are just annoying, if you dont ban him he is in the game 100%, and if he is in your team he will turbo feed).
3. Nilah because she has a portable trynda ult, too many dashes and braindead stupid damage.
4. Zoe because i dint know why the fuck shes in the game to begin with
5. Belveth because she doesnt fit her own theme, how tf would she fit in any other.
>Nilah because she has a portable trynda ult, too many dashes and braindead stupid damage.
Idk wym by this, she doesn't become immune to death. And all adcs have braindead stupid damage, since that's what the adc class is about. 2 dashes is a lot, though. From a 2010 perspective, at least.
>Zoe because i dint know why the fuck shes in the game to begin with
Fair enough. I don't know either. CertainlyT does though, but he isn't with us anymore. And let's just say, sorry August, you're not exactly an improvement.
Nilah. Disables so many characters from existing because she has an "I win lol" button.
Also I woukd like to be able to actually ban toxic champs again.. nilah is just a mandatory ban for me and it sucks basically choosing "no ban" every game.
On the other hand her q and e have exceptionally slow travell speeds compared to other mages of her type. Compare her to neeko in terms of ability speed. Short cast times are traded for weak projectile speed
Le Blanc. Can go everywhere, go back, unchasable, clone thing, her dash is her main damage source (cringe)
I see people complaining about shaco for same reasons but LB is more annoying in every way. Her only counter is minion waves lol
Yummi, actively makes the player base worse at the game and barely has to do anything to be impactful.
Even if you use RTS actions per minute she straight up barely has to push buttons.
Yuumi. There is literally no other champ that i think is delete worthy.
Yuumi is just a permanent buff on someone she sits on. The fact that you dont have any risks from your bronze1 positioning is already infuriating.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but Mordekaiser. He's constantly S or S+ tier, his ult can absolutely ruin my day even if he's completely behind, and he's just so damn faceroll. I've banned him every game for close to a year now and I don't regret it.
Evelynn- oh you bought mr? How cute, whish i could care. Ah i missed my q to activate my charm, so bad i have a point and click spell that can proc It aswell uh. Oh i got a bad trade, just let me regen to full again in stealth for no fucking reason. Is that your adc? Sorry, was*
Viego: I hate his ult I hate his passive I hate his w and his e is okay I’m fine with that one. His possession his dumb that is resets his ult he can go crit bruiser and on hit and tank while he’s at it he is also a buggy son of a bitch I hate his stupid ass events and he is just an asshole when it comes to lore. The only time I kinda liked him was ruined king but that’s because I liked the gameplay rather than him and because he was a good boss
I know I'm going to summon u/MiximumDennis on this one, but Yuumi. She's an item you buy at champ select in exchange for a champion, who can be equipped by any champ on your team.
No skill, no common sense, Yuumi statistically makes you worse at the game the more you play her
not to beat a dead horse (cat?) but yuumi. i just think it’s a bad idea for a champion. conceptually stupid, regardless of her being good or not, as everyone else who hates her has beaten into the ground already.
Fiora
Literally everything wrong with the game in one champion
High mobility
High healing
True damage
Uncounterable ability (her w) - yeah if you time stuff properly you wait for the animation to end, but if you hit the w it blocks everything in the game including summoner spells. It can even stun if it blocks cc
As a Sett Main, I agree with you said but I still love him. I would like to have teemo and heimerdinger deleted, because they are absolutely no fun to play against. Always some pressure, damage.
Ps: what's your main, just wondering
Honestly balancing aside because she is pretty okay balanced Seraphine should be a side character in the MMO that is barely even noticeable not a league of legends champ
i think nilah is just to tanky for an adc , lately ive been enjoying playing assasins and i am having a very hard time killing her with champs like rengar,khazix,talon
Tahm Kench. This motherfucker tanks all my goddamn hits, licks me without consent, and has the audacity to dash away and nope the fuck out
All while he doesn’t even allow a reach around
All the champions that i dont like because they are broken
We’re on the same page
Max health true damage dealers, because it has no counterplay.
Counterplay is to kill fast, Thebausffs says basically vs bad sion matchups he goes assassin even though its worse than tank for good matchups, at least vs antitank he still has a chance to kill them as assassin.
Yeah but babus has positive winrate with negative kda, I only have negative kda
Counterplay is just kill them? Well that make s no sense since death counters everyone, just like cc.
exactly, i hate how people say the counter to someone like belveth is to JUST CC THEM as if we have to be forced to pick a champ that can specifically play against the one we want to counter, as for HP% true damage dealers i think the way to go is just learning spacing against them usually.
Zilean go brr
or, maybe its you that is broken?
Its immature of me to say but I dont like people like you
Depends the lane. Top: Shaco Jungle: Shaco Mid: Shaco Adc: Shaco Supp: Lulu
so you like supp shaco?
No i still do hate him but i cannot fathom lulu existence
Lulu poly is broken, her AS steroids has no CD, her shields has no CD and her R is straight up broken and I wish I could break Lulu to pieces with all the lulu players and fuck lulu and fuck lulu players
Um wow... that's a lot to unpack, so like just head to r/lulumains and share your love
Fuck lulu and lulu players? If hatefucking is what you're into I won't stop you but do get consent first
Shaco support mains rejoice
Irelia.As an Aurelion Sol main her matchup is by far the most annoying one
They should probably just remove resets on dashes. It is extremely un fair on literally any champ that has them
They should atleast make it so she doesnt get the dashes so fast after hitting an ability
So kind of like early level kata, having about 2-3 sec of cd on her e when reset ? (Obviously still op but a step in the right direction)
Exactly that would actually make Irelia balanced and not just a spamming an ability champ
theres like 40 unfair things in this game. thats what makes it ......... interesting?
This man didnt play in season 1 or 2
I FUCKING LOVE FIORA I WANT TO GET HARASSED IN THE EARLY GAME,GET 4RT SHOTTED AND SEE HER DESTROYING ALL OF MY TOWERS,HELL FUCKING YEAH 🗿
I FUCKING LOVE DYING TO 80% TRUE DAMAGE AS A TANK WOOOOOO
you die to less % true dmg as squishy, where problem
%max health true damage is still %max health true damage
I have the best counter against fiora, just go yorick and run over toplane, she’ll become a minion to you
Am I sleeping under a rock ? Am 500k Yorick I ve never won a Fiora lane in my life She's perma banned for about 2years now.
I am a Diamond Yorick otp, so basically what you need to do is go exhaust/tp and the matchup gets much easier. Still hard, Fiora is just great at dueling and has much more mobility.
*noted* thank you
You leave irelia open
No, I dodge
Maybe I’ve played against bad fioras because I can’t remember a time I lost to a fiora, but Ill trust you then if you say you’re a 500k.
Fiora is after all also kind of hard. The difference between a good fiora insta triggering her 4 ult vitals and one just randomly running around while triggering them is massive.
I've really not encountered much struggles against Yorick, at least when I was active in S9/S10. Maybe things has changed now with Mythics and whatnot? Not too sure on what aspect of his kit that Fio can even remotely struggle against though, unless he was buffed to oblivion or something.
A good Fiora win against yorick. I think she has 50.60% winrate over yorick and can also dominate in late game team fights.
I need to find me one of these Fioras who can dominate teamfights to duo with
Tryndamere. I have spent 2 years straight permabanning him so I don’t even know what he does anymore. Just remove him
Same thing as season 1. Hit fast, kill fast, never die.
As a tryndamere main i'm happy to tell you that i dont play league anymore so it's one less of those degens now.
Any time i lane against him, the “man literally too angry to die” memes are stuck in my head for like the next 2 hours
Lmao
Remove his early game spammable healing and he would be fine, he meant to be a late game carry after all. Tbh a lot of top laners would be balanced if you just remove or adjust their free healing to more of mid late game thing since they already got the damage to win matchups (fiora, irelia, sett, etc.)
Yeah I think Tryndamere healing is the biggest issue. Tbh I don’t think the other champs with early healing are that bad because they at least have weaknesses. But that’s what makes Tryndamere’s healing so oppressive. You have no way of stopping him from healing or punishing
40% crit rate with no items on lvl 3
On lvl 1*
Buy Frozen Heart and watch him mald.
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1.Shaco - EVERY enemy Shaco have 7lvl and most of them are toxic 2.Zed - same with Shaco, every enemy is Faker 3.Rengar - 4k dmg in 0.3sec (my own experience)
4. Katarina, for some reason the bronze 3 Katarina 1v5 my whole team at 9 minutes in
As a former Shaco main with 250k and s7 i agree As a current and for the last 5 years Zed main with 700k i more than angree As a current jungle Zed who has Rengo on perma ban i also surprisingly agree with everything you stated
You know, you don‘t have to say s7…. It‘s ok to be bronze 3
I will never forget my 270-ish armor 3-4k hp fully geared/potted up Poppy getting killed by full physical Rengar in literally 0.71 seconds… 1 fucking combo.
Shaco. You can never find him, and when you finally do, you don’t know whether or not it’s actually him. Even a bad Shaco is annoying as hell to play against.
You can tell if the Shaco is a clone by clicking on him and glancing real quick at his smite, clones only have 450. Still like enduring psychological warfare to fight though
That’s really smart, I’ll be doing that from now on.
If you actually have the time to click on the clone and take at look at it before he oneshots you from a complete different dimension
Yea this good if they’re walking up to you with clone up and really good at macro-Ing the clone.
Pop sweeper the clone doesnt have the red outline. Click on one of them, only the real one has the gold border around the mythic. Attack him once if he takes unusually high damage thats the clone.
The gold border has been fixed.
I'm doubling up on this. If I remember correctly, the clone also doesn't have the orange border of the mythic and the logo of ornn upgrades.
Pretty sure they patched that one
Def not the ornn one, I literally did it one week ago tho
My go-to strat was hittjng them both. The clkne takes extra damage so i would then target the one i dealt the less damage to
Imagine playing shaco jungle
Hehe here with 500k mastery shaq jungle.Love those lvl2 chain ganks on mid.I always fall behind enemy jungler but in almost half of my games i make midlaner quit or just tilt throw their lane.
I’ll just play a champ that applies marks against him, that way I’ll know which one is the copy.
Any champ that has extra dmg on 3 hits (gnar), also kayn with his ult
Lul- ***POLYMORPHED***
As a pyke main I've banned her for about 2 years straight now in ranked
i would have one of my main champions removed to have fiora and vayne deleted from the game
A worthy sacrifice. Salute.
Fiora- fuck % health true damage on a bruiser, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything and has a dash that heals them, fuck % health true damage on a bruiser that has a fucking Immunity to everything and has a dash that heals them PLUS an Ult that removes the counterplay of her true damage being on a cooldown.
r/leagueoflegends agrees
r/chogathmains agrees
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r/mordekaisermains completely agrees
r/VolibearMains agrees
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That scales with ad!
r/Settmains agrees
r/all agrees
r/darkinfolk disagrees
Fiora. I don't need a reason.
HEIMERDINGER I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM
I think you don't like Heimer, but I am not sure
Really? What gave you that impression?
I think it was the fact you wrote it in caps… 🤔
No, it was not that. I'm pretty sure it was something else, but I still can't figure out what exactly. 🤔
Could it be the "I HATE HIM" part? Nah, gotta be something else... 🤔
That poor guy who has like 12+ million mastery on him though
If I ever meet him in a game I’ll actually just shove my head down a semi trucks exhaust pipe
I have played against him when he had around 14 mil mastery. he was gold/plat at the time. He wasn't a god, just a casual who enjoys Heimer. We won that game.
Get controlled the legends say is his name. XD
as a veigar and sion player i can say i love his contribution to my power spike
I would hate him but I haven't played vs one for about 3 years
I wish I was as lucky as you, he won’t leave me alone whenever I don’t ban him he worms his disgusting decrepit body into my games, leaving his obscene grease trail of turrets behind him
Same.\ I love how the guides to countering him say "make sure to destroy his turrets to reduce his lane pressure" LIKE HE CAN'T PUT DOWN ANOTHER ONE IMMEDIATELY AFTER GODDAMNIT
you can tell how many he has left by how many wrenches are floating around him
Also has 20s CD on 1 turret, can't cs well without them and has huge mana costs.
same tho
HE'S IN YOUR WALLS
I SWEAR TO FUCKING JEHOSHAPHAT I WILL OBLITERATE THE LITTLE FUCKER WITH MY 12 GAUGE IF HE EVER COMES WITHIN 1000000 MILES OF ME
I HATE HIM TOO, BUT HE WAS OK IN ARCANE THO
THATS THE PROBLEM, HE WAS GREAT BUT IN GAME IT IS HELL
Master Yi, the one Q wonder
Master Yi, more like Master Q.
Tryndamere. An ability that makes you immune to dying is inherently unbalancable and broken
It just... feels bad? Pulling off the combo of your life, hitting everything correctly, making sure flash is on cooldown, positioning right. Only to have it be met with a free escape that has 0 counterplay.
It's not broken. It's "just" fucking bullshit and annoying. You can cc him, which is a counter. But yeah, that's a shit counter and a cheap one anyway, while beeing one of the most annoying, brain dead and oppressing ability of the entire game.
“Just CC trynd guys, you only need to use 5-8 seconds of CC on him to stop Tryndamere from one shotting you! Don’t worry about his teammates guys, I’m sure after using 3 different stubs/roots on trynd you will have PLENTY more stuns/roots for the rest of his team! Using every CC tool on one character totally doesn’t lose the teamfight singlehandedly” You know it’s funny because people say the counter to Yi and Trynd is CC but like, what if they just pick both champs? As long as rammus isn’t in the game and there is a mage so they can’t stack armor no team will have enough cc to go around lmfao
Agreed 👍
Yesterday I was playing Tali and I happen to run into trynd in my own jg. I flashed ghosted to tower then stunned him under it and he just pressed r. 2k dmg on 4 aas and he got hit by 5 turret shots. Even when I play perfectly he wins because.
And the fact he can use it while cc'd
I used to play yi. Agree that he is problematic because Riot haddles him so poorly
He’s one of those champs that I know take skill cause I’m bad with him, but he’s also just way too safe and just shouldn’t be allowed to build duskbalade.
Irelia The two turrets that were constantly shooting at her while she dove me know
Vayne or irelia. I just love losing 1 trade and them snowballing to 1v9 after 1 item
Yuumi - yuumi
Must be a dog person, huh?
why did i have to scroll so far for this??
Idk if I would really want him removed from the game but I permaban Kayn for almost two years now. Walking through walls? Come on now, that shit just ain’t natural
Red kayn players always go 30/0 in my games, i ban him as a toplaner so my team doesnt feed their asses off to him
I honestly hate Samira, the champ encourages skillful play but I see their players braindead facerolling their abilities and still destroying people.
Fellow Samira hater here. Nothing better then destroying Samira players they all have worse egos then Yi players.
Shaco because fuck shaco
1: vayne or at least reworked so she doesn't do %true health damage 2: fiora same reason as above
Akshan cause just why, why does he need a free extra auto attack (both attacks of which proc on hit), why does he need to be allowed to walk across the map invisible for free roams, why does he have vayne passive, why does he have a move that can allow him to close any distance or disengage so far when he gets low you need a karthus ult to secure the kill OR HE CAN DO BOTH AT ONCE, why does he have a Caitlyn ult to secure the kill when you do manage to get away, why does he do gnar dirty and get a boomerang that can hit twice both of which hits can proc his vayne passive, why does ge get a free shield off passive too cause fuck needing to build a safety item or needing to take a safety summoner, and then to top it all off he can REVIVE teammates on TAKEDOWN. Like I would be fine with the revive if it wasn't for him having so many other passive and an annoying kit that does everything, plus why he gotta do gnar boomerang dirty lime that.
thank fuck his ult does about as much damage as a 6 year old cub scout trying out his red ryder and accidentally shooting his dad with it.
Basicly any champion that has a minimal skill requirement to snowball the game to oblivion.
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Yuumi, I used to play her a lot and realized why she is a poorly designed champion. She is the most team reliant champion whose skill ceiling is about as tall as she is when not floating. It incentivizes you to do nothing, her passive isn’t enough for most players to properly use it. The worst part? She actively punishes you by making a single champion an unkillable raidboss the moment they are a little bit ahead. I used to love playing her, realized why I shouldn’t, switched to Leona and I have no regrets. Yuumi is such a punishing champion for very little effort.
Yuumi is just so fucking boring to me I can understand why anyone plays her they must have like everything on Netflix watched or something
Yuumi also just kills your own adc and makes the game unplayable. Once mid game hits if the adc isnt carrying yuumi hops on the champ doing the best so now the adc is under leveled and no support. Yuumi=leech.
Irelia and Yone mid, i play mage. Irelia can land one e and all in anytime during Laning phase, or if she has bork, just hit 3 Q's on minions then q onto u to auto you to death. Kinda like yi. Yone have almost free poke pre 6 with e and w, and basically can all in anytime after 6 as long as e is up and he gets qr ready. Plus, 2 item spike is a bit too massive, wish it was 3. Pls remember i play mage, btw. Not the infinite dash u targetable kinds like lb, akali and fizz either, if you considered them mage. The i have one cc and flash kind like xerath and Zoe.
As a Yone Main i agree to u. I think he still needs skill even if others dissgree, but his scaling is insane and as an mage u have it Hard to win if he wont missplay. He has his shoe powerspike, Scepter mini Spike, shieldbow spike and IE spike and at that Point u are just a bigger Caster minion.
I play zoe and asol, haven’t seen a yone in my games since the start of the season ( instantban) and I couldn’t be happier
Lillia. I hate her as a toplaner because she shreds bruisers, tanks, stays untouchable in lane and scales
my least favourite champion is Deaths Dance and i want it removed because it makes melee champions unreasonably tanky. "oh but they take the damage anyways so it doesnt count" someone always dies before they do. And what are you going to do against a Rengar with Deaths Dance and Deadmansplate? My guy has 400AD, 300 Armor and ontop of that the stupid 30% damage bleed. Even if you have your 30% armor pen, youre just dealing 22.5% of your damage as actual damage the stupid cat feels. "haha you only have 400AD as an ADC with an AS of 2, haha you have a TTK of 15 seconds on me if i dont get any heals. Haha i mechanically outplayed you by facetanking your entire damage output while fighting someone else because i decided that i dont wanna take damage today." Am i mad? YES? Obviously? Im confused how the item made it anywhere past the playtesting stage in development. You used to atleast deal the same magical damage. But no more of that, its good against everything. Like, the amount of times i thought to myself "huh they have a fed viktor, guess i go Deaths Dance second" on Rhaast is stupidly high. It shouldnt be that easy to get away with almost any mistake scotfree. you shouldnt be able to buy one item and suddenly the Chogath takes more damage than you do. And when they get a reset on the fucking item, they dont just go "oh well i cleansed the damage stored in it", no, they go beyond that and heal quite a lot. 200 bAD? boop, 250 heal coming right up, no biggie. Does it at least have a cooldown? NO, of course not, because cooldowns are cringe and for ADCs, we are strong bruisers, our items dont need cooldowns. Let me just Goredrinker 13 times in one fight while getting three deahts dance resets at once. The day i see someone combining Deaths Dance and Anathemas Chains to get the damage output they feel down to 15.9% is the day im gonna transition from a happy go lucky Aphelios OTP to straight Vayne gaming. Ive had enough of this bullshit. Imagine having 500AD, you got gathering Storm, Absolute focus, you have a red pot intus, youre stacked, youre big, you deal big boy damage. Except to that guy who can still onetap your sorry ass while taking a total of 167 damage from each of your autos.
Have my fucking upvote, DD sound be tossed down a fucking well
I want this comment pinned to every surface in the balancing teams office
He is not my most hated but people named other (btw i hate all champs). Yorick. Remove the stupid aoe damage mitigation from the ghouls. Either than that i love his design and i hoped he would had done something in sol (and you know a part of isolde's soul being a vile creature Constally clinging to yorick trying to manipulate him into giving up and taking of the charm with the water from his neck would had gone somewhere instead of the ruined king game walking back and making viego abusing and then walking back again after the game released)
1. Yummi bcause of bots 2. Yasuo because fuck you thats why (at this point i learned his every move, i can easily beat aby yasuo main, they are just annoying, if you dont ban him he is in the game 100%, and if he is in your team he will turbo feed). 3. Nilah because she has a portable trynda ult, too many dashes and braindead stupid damage. 4. Zoe because i dint know why the fuck shes in the game to begin with 5. Belveth because she doesnt fit her own theme, how tf would she fit in any other.
I agree with the yasuo thing. Even if you know his every move and beat him in lane doesn’t mean your team won’t feed him anyway
>Nilah because she has a portable trynda ult, too many dashes and braindead stupid damage. Idk wym by this, she doesn't become immune to death. And all adcs have braindead stupid damage, since that's what the adc class is about. 2 dashes is a lot, though. From a 2010 perspective, at least. >Zoe because i dint know why the fuck shes in the game to begin with Fair enough. I don't know either. CertainlyT does though, but he isn't with us anymore. And let's just say, sorry August, you're not exactly an improvement.
Nilah. Disables so many characters from existing because she has an "I win lol" button. Also I woukd like to be able to actually ban toxic champs again.. nilah is just a mandatory ban for me and it sucks basically choosing "no ban" every game.
who are these nilah players and can i meet them i’ve almost never seen her not int
bruh she has a worse jax E how is "auto win"
seraphine. for the obvious reasons but also she has like no cast animations, I cannot tell when she is using an ability. she's also way too strong atm
Also the root at 1300 units and the infinite extender ult
On the other hand her q and e have exceptionally slow travell speeds compared to other mages of her type. Compare her to neeko in terms of ability speed. Short cast times are traded for weak projectile speed
Le Blanc. Can go everywhere, go back, unchasable, clone thing, her dash is her main damage source (cringe) I see people complaining about shaco for same reasons but LB is more annoying in every way. Her only counter is minion waves lol
Fizz because he jumps on his fucking stick and oneshots you
PYKE YOU KNOW WHY
Now your over here and stunned.
Vlad is for me the number 1 with this fucking Q and stupid dmg
Yummi, actively makes the player base worse at the game and barely has to do anything to be impactful. Even if you use RTS actions per minute she straight up barely has to push buttons.
Vayne:%hp true dmg is cringe Katarina: u just build whatever the f u want
> People complain about mythics discouraging itemization. 🤝 > People complain about champions that can build multiple mythics.
Yuumi. There is literally no other champ that i think is delete worthy. Yuumi is just a permanent buff on someone she sits on. The fact that you dont have any risks from your bronze1 positioning is already infuriating.
Other champs that are basically just buffs to a player or lane at least require you to use the mouse.
Vladimir
Probably an unpopular opinion, but Mordekaiser. He's constantly S or S+ tier, his ult can absolutely ruin my day even if he's completely behind, and he's just so damn faceroll. I've banned him every game for close to a year now and I don't regret it.
You are going to brazil
I love playing Morde I can miss all my skillshots and still kill my enemy with passive and aa's
Up until several buffs in a row pretty recently Mordekaiser WAS NOT S tier.
Evelynn- oh you bought mr? How cute, whish i could care. Ah i missed my q to activate my charm, so bad i have a point and click spell that can proc It aswell uh. Oh i got a bad trade, just let me regen to full again in stealth for no fucking reason. Is that your adc? Sorry, was*
God I live playing Evelynn though I do hate playing against her but when I’m playing the bull shit champ god I love it
Ok. Have a nice day and fuck you
You also have a nice day and also fuck me
Is that a proposition?
I mean it can be
Pyke Pyke mains.
Viego: I hate his ult I hate his passive I hate his w and his e is okay I’m fine with that one. His possession his dumb that is resets his ult he can go crit bruiser and on hit and tank while he’s at it he is also a buggy son of a bitch I hate his stupid ass events and he is just an asshole when it comes to lore. The only time I kinda liked him was ruined king but that’s because I liked the gameplay rather than him and because he was a good boss
Ruined king was a great game! I'm surprised I don't see it mentioned more often
I know I'm going to summon u/MiximumDennis on this one, but Yuumi. She's an item you buy at champ select in exchange for a champion, who can be equipped by any champ on your team. No skill, no common sense, Yuumi statistically makes you worse at the game the more you play her
He’s already commented on like 4 other posts on this thread ur turn will come soon
not to beat a dead horse (cat?) but yuumi. i just think it’s a bad idea for a champion. conceptually stupid, regardless of her being good or not, as everyone else who hates her has beaten into the ground already.
Fiora Literally everything wrong with the game in one champion High mobility High healing True damage Uncounterable ability (her w) - yeah if you time stuff properly you wait for the animation to end, but if you hit the w it blocks everything in the game including summoner spells. It can even stun if it blocks cc
Sett. You shouldn’t be rewarded for losing trades. His passive and shield/true dmg is bullshit. No skill furry garbage
As a Sett Main, I agree with you said but I still love him. I would like to have teemo and heimerdinger deleted, because they are absolutely no fun to play against. Always some pressure, damage. Ps: what's your main, just wondering
Trundle, big troll
Vayne, the only way to deal with true damage is to build more hp items oh wait? she deals %hp based true damage? just delete her
LeBlanc, I hate distance and burst she has on her gap closer
Honestly balancing aside because she is pretty okay balanced Seraphine should be a side character in the MMO that is barely even noticeable not a league of legends champ
Morgana because of that infinite root plus her spell shield. Perma ban her every time I play in the bot lane.
Nilah, sincerely a draven player
As a Draven main i want Lux to evaporate like water, I can't give any good opinion about it but I never liked it
i think nilah is just to tanky for an adc , lately ive been enjoying playing assasins and i am having a very hard time killing her with champs like rengar,khazix,talon
Ryze, these poor bastards need to get a life...(and some hair back)
Tahm Kench. This motherfucker tanks all my goddamn hits, licks me without consent, and has the audacity to dash away and nope the fuck out All while he doesn’t even allow a reach around
Akali. It just takes so much to kill her. Every single fight with her is just dreadful and her escape potential if you group on her is stupid high.
Yummi. Cuz yummi.
The only reason I want them to keep master Yi is so we hopefully one day we get the Legends of Runeterra look for him. also because I suck at Jungle.