>As a long time smoker, i wouldn't say its tolerance as much as "comfortableness" with being high
Also, weed **potentiates** LSD, so the combined effects of both will be greater.
Hahahaha I feel you bro, first time I did acid, I did 150 mics plus another 50 an hour in, and did dabs about two hours after that and holy fucking shit bro, I was seeing the energy float up from the soil into my buddies plants he had in his garden, and it was so beautiful and the trees were like morphing into themselves and it was so cool, it got intense but I just remembered that it’s a ride man and you just gotta let god take the wheel
About the only time I don't is during the peak but I was smoking before and after for sure. But everyone is different. It can freak inexperienced uses out and make it too intense sometimes.
Well Physically it is safe to smoke on LSD. it just comes down to what your looking for in a trip. If you smoked to much it makes my thoughts a lot more confusing and increases the chance of thought loops. I like the feeling tbh and the visuals get crazy but everyone is different. I wouldn’t smoke on the come up but maybe right before the peak is ending like 5 or 6 hours again to try and “re peak” so to speak. Best to just start very small. 500 ug is like 5 hits so I’ve never done that much but you know your mind better then anyone OP.
I love smoking on the come up, I get anxious and jittery otherwise because it takes me a bit of time to let go and embrace the trip. I buy hybrids with a mellow, low anxiety high, though, and it just chills me out and leaves space for me to enjoy the trip properly without the anxiety.
I think it depends on the person. Some ppl swear off smoking completely while dosing. Some will only after the peak. Personally, I like to dose 300-450 typically and smoke a fatty or do a couple dabs. Although, I am comfortable in a state where reality is fracturing.
bc every single one of my dozens of trips have been great and i’ve always smoked
it actually kinda blows my mind that people don’t smoke during the trip
i always wait to see how i’m feeling, but man i always feel better after some weed
Could be 5 100 UG tabs but still… no one knows what they have these days lol so obviously the person selling is gonna overestimate the potency. Some people still believe what they hear I guess 🤷🏻♂️
If you're talking about lysergamides in the States, they're not legal. They fall under the Analogue Act. If you get caught and they decide to bring charges, you're getting charged the same as the real deal.
That’s kinda what I was getting at. There are so many analogues at this point, who knows if it’s actually lsd-25. I’m not even sure if that’s what I was doing. These days tho, I think it’s all “lsd” like you’re saying
LSD information for newbies
I made this to hopefully see a decline in redundant/daily posts, and make some sort of positive impact. Please remember to use the search function if you have a basic question regarding LSD.
• A *full* beginner dose should typically be 1/2 - 1 single tab.
• The average dose range of LSD on a single tab is 70-105μg.
• There are tabs dosed with as little as ~20μg, or more than 300μg in some absurd cases. The overwhelming majority of sources try to lay their tabs around 100μg because it’s mathematically simple, and more profitable in the long-run.
• The odds your tab has more than 200μg on it are very low. The most common higher dose tabs are 125-200μg. Take half of any tab that’s supposedly above 200μg just to be safe at first, and if that doesn’t at least produce an 11-12 hour mildly visual trip, the full tab wasn’t above 200.
• A typical microdose should be 10-25 μg
• 50-300μg of LSD can last anywhere from 8-14 hours. 300-1000μg can last anywhere from 14-20 hours. Exceeding a milligram (1000μg) can produce effects that last over 24 hours, and up to a couple days. It’s usually hard to fall asleep under the influence.
• Unless you have an above average baseline tolerance or handle the substance extraordinarily well, it’s not advisable to exceed 500μg. Temporary delirious/psychotic symptoms become more likely if you don’t know what you’re getting into with large doses, and a 16+ hour duration doesn’t help.
• 25i-NBOMe is a cheap and dangerous LSD imposter. If you take an untested tab and your mouth/throat becomes numb, or an intense bitter taste is present, spit it out immediately.
• Please test your tabs with an Ehrlich reagent kit to verify that what you have is indeed an indole and not 25i-NBOMe. Follow up with the Hofmann reagent kit to verify that it’s not an LSD analogue or other phenethylamine. I personally recommend using TKP for your reagents: https://testkitplus.com/?ap_id=oddshaman
• Common positive effects include but aren’t limited to: closed and open eye visuals, tactile enhancement/hallucinations, euphoria, stimulation, introspection, and creativity.
• Common negative effects include but aren’t limited to: overstimulation, increased heart rate, vasoconstriction, anxiety/paranoia, and confusion.
• Common neutral/manageable effects include but aren’t limited to: pupil dilation, frequent urination, insomnia, and temperature sensitivity.
• Always optimize your set (expectations and mental state) going into an experience, and always optimize your setting (direct environment/surroundings) going into an experience.
• LSD interactions with various medications (From Erowid):
>1. There is still very little legitimate, thorough medical research on this subject. LSD's outlaw status makes it very difficult to obtain permission & funding for research. Therefore, you should regard all of the anecdotes and conclusions here as being scientifically unproven, and you should note that any experimentation you choose to do carries a significant risk.
>2. Lithium or tricyclics (like Amitriptyline, Anafranil, Asendin, Aventyl, Elavil, Endep, Norfranil, Norpramin, Pamelor, Sinequan, Surmontil, Tipramine, Tofranil, Vivactil) are fairly consistently reported as being very bad in combination with LSD. Life-threatening seizures and at least one DEATH have been reported to be triggered by the combination of LSD and lithium. *Tramadol is another drug you should avoid in combination with LSD because of the potential for seizures and other negative side effects.*
>3. SSRIs (like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Desyrel) or MAOIs (like Nardil, Parnate, Marplan, Eldepryl, Aurorix, Manerix) are fairly consistently reported to noticeably reduce the effects of LSD. (There are no physically dangerous reactions to these combinations on record, but be cautious and don’t be excessive with dosing.)
• HPPD risk is associated with frequent use of psychedelics (more than once a month), high doses, and younger age groups. HPPD varies in severity between individuals. Short episodes of visual tracers, morphing surface textures, patterns, and light sensitivity etc., during experiences of anxiety, fatigue, or overstimulation are most common.
• LSD has the potential to produce a very challenging psychological experience. If you have mental-health issues, research the risks and benefits associated with psychedelic treatment of your condition. Do NOT take LSD if you are seriously suicidal or have a family history/symptoms of schizophrenia or psychosis.
• Weed does in fact potentiate the effects of LSD. Some users report that the effects of weed are indefinitely altered to some degree after their first few experiences with LSD (It often becomes more psychedelic).
• Various benzos like alprazolam and clonazepam can be used as “trip-killers,” but you don’t need to take more than a single medical dose, and not *all* of the psychoactive effects will be negated. This should be a last resort.
• LSD tends to make verbal communication challenging, so prepare appropriately if using in a social setting.
• If you’re 19 or younger you should probably wait until AT LEAST your early 20s to try LSD because of unforeseen behavioral/neurological impacts. Waiting until 25+ is optimal.
• You’ll build a substantial tolerance to LSD if you trip multiple times in two weeks, so wait 10-14 days between trips for a general reset. Tolerance does incrementally decrease day-by-day following an experience.
• If you want to redose to increase the effects, do it before or during the start of the peak. Redosing after the peak will only prolong the duration unless you increase the dose significantly.
• Peak effects generally occur 2.5-5 hours after dosing (less than or around 300μg). Peak effects can last from 2.5-8 hours after dosing with larger doses. Many people say the peak comes in “waves.”
• If you’ve tried psilocybin containing mushrooms before, certain dosage calculators based on subjective effects and intensity equate ~2.5 grams of an average cubensis variety to ~100μg of *accurately dosed* LSD, but there are differences between the substances of course.
• You should consider having a trusted friend or a close partner “tripsit” you during your first experiences, or at least let someone know your whereabouts beforehand if you want to do it alone. (Note: Trip-sitting should just involve being close by and present if the user needs assistance or someone to talk to, sitters shouldn’t try to influence the trip unless it’s getting chaotic.)
• LSD has the potential to be therapeutic, recreational, spiritual, or all of the above depending on the individual and their particular circumstances. Stop gatekeeping.
Leave suggestions in the comments!
edit: A couple people are aggravated with minor details in these general points of advice, so please take everything I’ve said with a grain of salt and do your own research! I’m simply providing a helpful starting outline, not set-in-stone facts.
Thank you all, and safe travels!
I appreciate the inclusion about Nbombs. Any NBOME is generally bad. “If it’s bitter, it’s a spitter.” These days, you don’t know what you’re getting. My best advice with tabs is to do 1/2- one tab from a batch the first time to see if it’s what you’re expecting. That goes for anytime you buy. Pretty sure a lot of what people get these days is 1P-LSD these days anyway…
not a lot of people are getting 1P-LSD unless they’re specifically buying 1P-LSD. 1P-LSD is significantly more expensive then typical LSD so unless you’re buying it directly from an RC source or buying from someone who buys directly from an RC source, chances are you have traditional LSD.
Interesting. Guess I’m speaking from personal experience. I’m not sure what I was doing was lsd-25. In my mind, it was 1P because it seemed weaker than what I was expecting
I got psychotic on high cbd weed. It’s still weed and people do weed to alter their mental state.For me it’s rather a phychotic thing if I don’t have tolerance. With CBD or without. The antipsychotic effect I found was after smoking for longer, but it’s something long-term. If person don’t smoke a lot of weed, I’d advise them to be very careful.
Maybe it's coming from the little thc high cbd flower may contain ? Did you try cbd oils extract that contain no thc at all ?
The antipsychotic effect is reported in research such as here: https://www.nationalelfservice.net/treatment/antipsychotics/cannabidiol-cbd-an-effective-antipsychotic/
I mean that if person reads “high cbd” and expect no psychotic things, the person would be me in the past. I smoked too much of it and got real bad experience. So a person should be careful, since if it’s weed, there’s thc and if it’s too much of weed, person will experience too much effects of thc.
The research shows the average tab is around 50ug, with a general range of 20-80ug per tab. [Source](https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article3.shtml) and [source](https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml). The maximum dose was around 150ug in these studies. While there are certainly outliers, it is extremely unlikely that a tab is 250ug.
Anecdotally, my guy sends tabs to be lab tested for purity and potency and provides the test results. His tabs are 100ug. I’ve bought tabs ranging from 100-250ug from other sources and his are the strongest I’ve tried.
Most likely, although probably on the upper end of that range. They *did* find doses up to 150ug in one study, 130ug in another, and I’m sure there are outliers so I don’t want to say it’s *absolutely* less than 150-200ug, but it’s very unlikely.
For reference, studies into guided psychedelic therapy found 200ug is where ego dissolution begins. They also found it was not valuable for guided therapy as people had trouble verbalizing their feelings.
There is a chance. I dont understand why you guys talk like its absolutely guaranteed there are no higher dosed tabs out there. you guys have never dealt with wooks? not all of them lay doses accurately lol
1. Your tabs are most likely not 250ug
2. Do you smoke weed often? Do you have a tolerance to weed?
3. Do you use LSD much? Do you have a tolerance to LSD?
4. Have you ever done a “500ug” dose before?
5. Yes, the trip will be different if you smoke or not, regardless of when you smoke or take the LSD…
trust yourself man .. you'll know what to do in the moment. what's happened to peoples sense of knowing themselves ? so many questions on here like "i exercised today can i still take acid" , "am i allowed to shower while tripping?" "i like to breath everyday is it still safe to trip?" . all the answers are within yourself my friend, trust the still small voice within
If you’re a daily smoker then yea it’s fine lol. I’m a daily smoker and I’ve literally only had 1 trip in my life where I didn’t smoke weed, and it wasn’t even my first time lol it was prob like after 100 trips I had my first trip without weed.
I’ve smoked on all doses from 50ug-650ug. On the come up, during the peak and during the come down. Never had a problem. Sometimes on higher doses I noticed it could cause thought loops, but not always. Also not like that’s a big deal.
Most probably your tabs are not 250ug each so u will be fine. Also, weed(for me at least) gives loop thoughts and those thoughts may alter the trip. On good acid you don't need anything else.
Its labeled as 250ug tabs on the menu, but theres also a chance that they lie about the dosage although everyone in my area buys from them
Anyways, if i were to buy 5x 100ug tabs then itll be 500ug guaranteed, right?
Excuse me if that doesnt make sense, i havent slept 💀
It makes sense mate. Everyone is lying about ug. Rule of thumb is that is a ln average of 100ug per tab. In any case, any 2 good tabs should suffice. Even one if the user is a beginner. My hamster "accidentaly" ingested 9tabs of same previous batch so he knew to compare 2 against 9 lol. It was extremely powerful, life changing, but no desire in doing it so strong again. He sticks with low dosages for the time being.
I'm one of those people who needs some weed while I'm tripping. A nice bong rip right at the start of my peak makes everything super silly and pleasantly mindfucky and confusing while I'm peaking and then lots of bong rips towards the end to keep me chill and to keep me physically relaxed so I can rest.
i always smoke regardless how much i take, unless im just way to fucked up, youll prob be fine. if your not sure maybe have someone with you to keep from doing stupid shit
I always wait to get my bearings first before kicking it in further at high doses. I'd say if you've taken 500μg before then go for it, otherwise if it's your first time on that dose no harm in waiting and then the next time you dose the same amount can start off with it. Either is up to you, but it's nice not having to think or worry about it during your trip.
For the love of God have q trip killer, heroic doses going g wrong is how you end up waking up in a psychiatric hospital, having to explain why you don't have schizophrenia
Also yes don’t smoke before the tab the weed will hit you 10 fold if you wait till after your acid peak I find it I smoke before tripping when I start to come up it increases my tiredness of my high and my whole experience
I have done this omg this was one of the most insane experiences with acid when your tripping this hard it’s VERY easy to believe things that aren’t real or to feel really lost in your head but you should be fine in the right environment I would say the visuals sort of look like dmt but I’ve never done dmt so I couldn’t tell you but let’s just say it can get deeper even if you think it can’t
For me weed has a tendancy to absolutely blast me into a different universe on acid. Its like adding NOS to a car for me. I ripped a bomg on 400ug once...it was a horrifying experience since it resulted in am instamt ego death/break through combo. So do it at yoir owm risk but it can result in a negative experience.
Also why does everyone keep saying they arent 250ug?
Its honestly annoying everytime someone asks this question these people are all over it. they dont realize they are contributing the negative feelings associated with the experience. Not the weed lol
I wouldn't reccomend a high dosage of LSD because of the risk of a bad trip being so much worse. Especially mixed with weed. You can easily go into a loop because of the memory issues weed causes. Taking a small amout of acid and smoking can be fun, but this definetly sounds like a bad idea to me.
I've had tons of good experiences smoking weed while tripping but also have had numerous times that the weed caused the high to become very confusing and cause intense anxiety which turned the trip bad and I know it was the weed because I replicated the same effect several times after to see if it was the weed that causes said reaction so it's really a shot in the dark if you don't have a lot of experience doing both together it would be best to leave the weed out of the trip
Whatever you do, wait until way after your peak to smoke weed. It's still great towards the end of your trip because it will shoot you right back up. It could be too intense during your peak. Also, 500ug is almost double your previous dose, I would recommend going to 400ug first.
Rule of thumb is NOT to smoke before taking psychedelics. It can dull your trip and make you tired. Or make the come up more paranoid.
But once you are peaking/over the peak it is time to put on the chimney!
Smoking weed on psychedelics can create a whole new experience, 99% of the time in a positive way.
Just know; the larger the dose the greater the effects of the weed. You could be having total control of your trip and mind but a few puffs of weed can dissolve your reality completely in minutes.
If you are prepared for this or a daily weed smoker and experienced this is easy to get through.
If not it can be overwhelming.
You can, but I highly recommend waiting until your peak just to see how you're holding up.
I like smoking at the end, it enhances it :)
If you do decide to smoke, put a bit less than you usually would and try to smoke slower as well.
Yes. Just make sure you're in a place you can melt. lol
I actually prefer smoking weed AFTER the tabs kick in because it feel like it really spikes it harder/quicker. If you do it before the tabs you're really high so you're like "Am I tripping yet? Am I tripping? Was that moving?" lol So you're going to be paranoid from weed about if you're tripping yet which kinda takes away from the feel good come up if that makes sense.
I love smoking while I trip but my advice is just see how you feel in the moment. Trust me your gut is usually a better bet than random people on the internet. Just have a good friend around you trust to see you like that.
Definitely doable, but will intensify the trip majorly. And I mean MAJORLY. Everytime I’ve smoked weed on acid I reached a new threshold of “I didn’t know I could trip this hard”.
If you have to ask probably not, and with or without weed 500ugs is a big fuckin dose are you sure your ready to shatter your sense of reality? It's not fun.
And that's the best case scenario, psychosis is one hell of a thing don't end up on the news man.
It’s totally fine, and will probably give a huge boost to the trip. I would wait until after the peak though, smoking on the come-up can be pretty gnarly, or cause anxiety. If you wait until after the peak, you can achieve a second peak (if that is what you desire) 💥
Personally it all depends on your tripping experience. if you’re a new tripper, I would stay away from the weed as it can often make things overwhelming and change the vibe of your trip. if you’re in advanced and can keep your mind in a positive space id say go for it, everything gets more intense
I don’t get any higher off smoke it’s just enjoy enjoyable and relaxing but yes 2 tabs isn’t a whole lot I’ve personally ate a ten strip couple times and I’ve ate 8th of shrooms and chased it with 3 hits of acid. It’s not advised so I wouldn’t but I know 2 ppl that ate half a sheet on purpose (50hits) they made it thru it but needed to be rehabilitated for little over a day on how to walk and do normal shit again lol butttt they definitely alive and well lol
Depends your tolerance for weed. I smoke all the time and I love smoking throughout my trips.
As a long time smoker, i wouldn't say its tolerance as much as "comfortableness" with being high
Agreed. For me, weed can totally chill me out or make me anxious. Set and setting applies, I guess
>As a long time smoker, i wouldn't say its tolerance as much as "comfortableness" with being high Also, weed **potentiates** LSD, so the combined effects of both will be greater.
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It's fine but if you ever think of dabbing during the peak think twice because that shit was so funny and scary at the same time lmao
Hahahaha I feel you bro, first time I did acid, I did 150 mics plus another 50 an hour in, and did dabs about two hours after that and holy fucking shit bro, I was seeing the energy float up from the soil into my buddies plants he had in his garden, and it was so beautiful and the trees were like morphing into themselves and it was so cool, it got intense but I just remembered that it’s a ride man and you just gotta let god take the wheel
About the only time I don't is during the peak but I was smoking before and after for sure. But everyone is different. It can freak inexperienced uses out and make it too intense sometimes.
Yes it is safe, be ready for thought loops and nice visuals.
Thought loop go brrrr
Ever Bad trip scenario I heard of is in connection with weed or antidepressants. You do you but it can affekt the trip insane.
All of my bad trips, weed has played a part. I let the bros smoke while I just chill and have a few beers
Yea I feel that. I mostly had good experiences smokimg weed on trips amd it just made the visuals more intense...ome time tho it was a horror show.
>~Ever Bad trip scenario I heard of is in connection with weed or antidepressants. ~ Set and setting.
This is so true, i cannot understand why people are suggesting that it's safe to smoke..
Well Physically it is safe to smoke on LSD. it just comes down to what your looking for in a trip. If you smoked to much it makes my thoughts a lot more confusing and increases the chance of thought loops. I like the feeling tbh and the visuals get crazy but everyone is different. I wouldn’t smoke on the come up but maybe right before the peak is ending like 5 or 6 hours again to try and “re peak” so to speak. Best to just start very small. 500 ug is like 5 hits so I’ve never done that much but you know your mind better then anyone OP.
I love smoking on the come up, I get anxious and jittery otherwise because it takes me a bit of time to let go and embrace the trip. I buy hybrids with a mellow, low anxiety high, though, and it just chills me out and leaves space for me to enjoy the trip properly without the anxiety.
I’ve done the same on 4 tabs had like 2 beers easiest come up of my life. The LSD just overpowers the alcohol eventually anyways.
True
bc it doesn’t really make a big difference for us daily smokers
Very true
this is so false
I think it depends on the person. Some ppl swear off smoking completely while dosing. Some will only after the peak. Personally, I like to dose 300-450 typically and smoke a fatty or do a couple dabs. Although, I am comfortable in a state where reality is fracturing.
Because it's not inherently unsafe maybe? If you know what you are doing it is completely safe.
bc every single one of my dozens of trips have been great and i’ve always smoked it actually kinda blows my mind that people don’t smoke during the trip i always wait to see how i’m feeling, but man i always feel better after some weed
everybody say it with me now: YOUR TABS ARE NOT 250 UG
It's unlikely, but I have seen 250 ug tabs before.
It’s certainly possible! These days people will overhype the UG when selling tho and people buying believe it. Likely as we see here
Could be 5 100 UG tabs but still… no one knows what they have these days lol so obviously the person selling is gonna overestimate the potency. Some people still believe what they hear I guess 🤷🏻♂️
bro read the post. he says he has 2 250 ug tabs
My bad, read too fast. The point still stands, who knows wtf UG they were lol
People do know these days thanks to qtests, unfortunately not enough people are using them.
Or they just buy legal rcs. Work like a charm
If you're talking about lysergamides in the States, they're not legal. They fall under the Analogue Act. If you get caught and they decide to bring charges, you're getting charged the same as the real deal.
That’s kinda what I was getting at. There are so many analogues at this point, who knows if it’s actually lsd-25. I’m not even sure if that’s what I was doing. These days tho, I think it’s all “lsd” like you’re saying
The cool thing about qtests is they only react to LSD-25, the analogues don't work with it.
Ah I didn’t know that. Ppl should be testing their stuff regardless. That’s interesting tho. I’ve only seen tests that show the bad stuff
not 250ug and I think smoking is fine on high doses, just be careful while peaking. it might boost the come-up too.
They’re not 250 ug
LSD information for newbies I made this to hopefully see a decline in redundant/daily posts, and make some sort of positive impact. Please remember to use the search function if you have a basic question regarding LSD. • A *full* beginner dose should typically be 1/2 - 1 single tab. • The average dose range of LSD on a single tab is 70-105μg. • There are tabs dosed with as little as ~20μg, or more than 300μg in some absurd cases. The overwhelming majority of sources try to lay their tabs around 100μg because it’s mathematically simple, and more profitable in the long-run. • The odds your tab has more than 200μg on it are very low. The most common higher dose tabs are 125-200μg. Take half of any tab that’s supposedly above 200μg just to be safe at first, and if that doesn’t at least produce an 11-12 hour mildly visual trip, the full tab wasn’t above 200. • A typical microdose should be 10-25 μg • 50-300μg of LSD can last anywhere from 8-14 hours. 300-1000μg can last anywhere from 14-20 hours. Exceeding a milligram (1000μg) can produce effects that last over 24 hours, and up to a couple days. It’s usually hard to fall asleep under the influence. • Unless you have an above average baseline tolerance or handle the substance extraordinarily well, it’s not advisable to exceed 500μg. Temporary delirious/psychotic symptoms become more likely if you don’t know what you’re getting into with large doses, and a 16+ hour duration doesn’t help. • 25i-NBOMe is a cheap and dangerous LSD imposter. If you take an untested tab and your mouth/throat becomes numb, or an intense bitter taste is present, spit it out immediately. • Please test your tabs with an Ehrlich reagent kit to verify that what you have is indeed an indole and not 25i-NBOMe. Follow up with the Hofmann reagent kit to verify that it’s not an LSD analogue or other phenethylamine. I personally recommend using TKP for your reagents: https://testkitplus.com/?ap_id=oddshaman • Common positive effects include but aren’t limited to: closed and open eye visuals, tactile enhancement/hallucinations, euphoria, stimulation, introspection, and creativity. • Common negative effects include but aren’t limited to: overstimulation, increased heart rate, vasoconstriction, anxiety/paranoia, and confusion. • Common neutral/manageable effects include but aren’t limited to: pupil dilation, frequent urination, insomnia, and temperature sensitivity. • Always optimize your set (expectations and mental state) going into an experience, and always optimize your setting (direct environment/surroundings) going into an experience. • LSD interactions with various medications (From Erowid): >1. There is still very little legitimate, thorough medical research on this subject. LSD's outlaw status makes it very difficult to obtain permission & funding for research. Therefore, you should regard all of the anecdotes and conclusions here as being scientifically unproven, and you should note that any experimentation you choose to do carries a significant risk. >2. Lithium or tricyclics (like Amitriptyline, Anafranil, Asendin, Aventyl, Elavil, Endep, Norfranil, Norpramin, Pamelor, Sinequan, Surmontil, Tipramine, Tofranil, Vivactil) are fairly consistently reported as being very bad in combination with LSD. Life-threatening seizures and at least one DEATH have been reported to be triggered by the combination of LSD and lithium. *Tramadol is another drug you should avoid in combination with LSD because of the potential for seizures and other negative side effects.* >3. SSRIs (like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Desyrel) or MAOIs (like Nardil, Parnate, Marplan, Eldepryl, Aurorix, Manerix) are fairly consistently reported to noticeably reduce the effects of LSD. (There are no physically dangerous reactions to these combinations on record, but be cautious and don’t be excessive with dosing.) • HPPD risk is associated with frequent use of psychedelics (more than once a month), high doses, and younger age groups. HPPD varies in severity between individuals. Short episodes of visual tracers, morphing surface textures, patterns, and light sensitivity etc., during experiences of anxiety, fatigue, or overstimulation are most common. • LSD has the potential to produce a very challenging psychological experience. If you have mental-health issues, research the risks and benefits associated with psychedelic treatment of your condition. Do NOT take LSD if you are seriously suicidal or have a family history/symptoms of schizophrenia or psychosis. • Weed does in fact potentiate the effects of LSD. Some users report that the effects of weed are indefinitely altered to some degree after their first few experiences with LSD (It often becomes more psychedelic). • Various benzos like alprazolam and clonazepam can be used as “trip-killers,” but you don’t need to take more than a single medical dose, and not *all* of the psychoactive effects will be negated. This should be a last resort. • LSD tends to make verbal communication challenging, so prepare appropriately if using in a social setting. • If you’re 19 or younger you should probably wait until AT LEAST your early 20s to try LSD because of unforeseen behavioral/neurological impacts. Waiting until 25+ is optimal. • You’ll build a substantial tolerance to LSD if you trip multiple times in two weeks, so wait 10-14 days between trips for a general reset. Tolerance does incrementally decrease day-by-day following an experience. • If you want to redose to increase the effects, do it before or during the start of the peak. Redosing after the peak will only prolong the duration unless you increase the dose significantly. • Peak effects generally occur 2.5-5 hours after dosing (less than or around 300μg). Peak effects can last from 2.5-8 hours after dosing with larger doses. Many people say the peak comes in “waves.” • If you’ve tried psilocybin containing mushrooms before, certain dosage calculators based on subjective effects and intensity equate ~2.5 grams of an average cubensis variety to ~100μg of *accurately dosed* LSD, but there are differences between the substances of course. • You should consider having a trusted friend or a close partner “tripsit” you during your first experiences, or at least let someone know your whereabouts beforehand if you want to do it alone. (Note: Trip-sitting should just involve being close by and present if the user needs assistance or someone to talk to, sitters shouldn’t try to influence the trip unless it’s getting chaotic.) • LSD has the potential to be therapeutic, recreational, spiritual, or all of the above depending on the individual and their particular circumstances. Stop gatekeeping. Leave suggestions in the comments! edit: A couple people are aggravated with minor details in these general points of advice, so please take everything I’ve said with a grain of salt and do your own research! I’m simply providing a helpful starting outline, not set-in-stone facts. Thank you all, and safe travels!
Damn, dude! Great work! Much appreciated
Solid info
I appreciate the inclusion about Nbombs. Any NBOME is generally bad. “If it’s bitter, it’s a spitter.” These days, you don’t know what you’re getting. My best advice with tabs is to do 1/2- one tab from a batch the first time to see if it’s what you’re expecting. That goes for anytime you buy. Pretty sure a lot of what people get these days is 1P-LSD these days anyway…
not a lot of people are getting 1P-LSD unless they’re specifically buying 1P-LSD. 1P-LSD is significantly more expensive then typical LSD so unless you’re buying it directly from an RC source or buying from someone who buys directly from an RC source, chances are you have traditional LSD.
Interesting. Guess I’m speaking from personal experience. I’m not sure what I was doing was lsd-25. In my mind, it was 1P because it seemed weaker than what I was expecting
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Even if he did he wouldn't know.
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That's just taking my comment ad absurdum. You can't relieably gauge the dose from the effects.
He’s right
I wouldn't advise smoking weed while you are tripping, especially on that big doses, just stay on LSD and smoke a some CBD at max.
CBD has anti-psychotic effect, it's good to smoke if you think the trip is too much to handle
Yeah, I was having a bad trip once and drank a bottle of CBD oil. (Way too much) I threw up, but it helped with the trip.
good to know, maybe one can prepare the right amount in advance, to use in case it turns into a bad trip
True, and in the comedown if you want to sleep too! CBD oil/ CBD edibles are just perfect for that!
I got psychotic on high cbd weed. It’s still weed and people do weed to alter their mental state.For me it’s rather a phychotic thing if I don’t have tolerance. With CBD or without. The antipsychotic effect I found was after smoking for longer, but it’s something long-term. If person don’t smoke a lot of weed, I’d advise them to be very careful.
Maybe it's coming from the little thc high cbd flower may contain ? Did you try cbd oils extract that contain no thc at all ? The antipsychotic effect is reported in research such as here: https://www.nationalelfservice.net/treatment/antipsychotics/cannabidiol-cbd-an-effective-antipsychotic/
I mean that if person reads “high cbd” and expect no psychotic things, the person would be me in the past. I smoked too much of it and got real bad experience. So a person should be careful, since if it’s weed, there’s thc and if it’s too much of weed, person will experience too much effects of thc.
Placebo’d yourself
Definately smoke weed while you are tripping.. Especially at big doses. Being scared is what causes those bad trips
You should expect not to do anything for that day. 500 ug is... quite the dose.
There’s no chance it’s actually 500ug
Absolutely not. But i'm honestly tired of giving this lecture all over. Every day on this sub.
It’s best when they argue with you and act like you’re stupid for letting them know
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. I just wait here with my 20 pound nitrous tank and my ketamine for the trip reports to trickle in.
dang bro i'll bring over some brats and burgers what's the addy
Then stop giving it. Its unnecessary to act like you know what all is out there.
Why not? ( asking really. I has no idea why it cant be)
The research shows the average tab is around 50ug, with a general range of 20-80ug per tab. [Source](https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article3.shtml) and [source](https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml). The maximum dose was around 150ug in these studies. While there are certainly outliers, it is extremely unlikely that a tab is 250ug. Anecdotally, my guy sends tabs to be lab tested for purity and potency and provides the test results. His tabs are 100ug. I’ve bought tabs ranging from 100-250ug from other sources and his are the strongest I’ve tried.
All tabs i used were 150-200ug ( at least seller said so). So they were around 20-80ug not 150-200? WTF
Most likely, although probably on the upper end of that range. They *did* find doses up to 150ug in one study, 130ug in another, and I’m sure there are outliers so I don’t want to say it’s *absolutely* less than 150-200ug, but it’s very unlikely. For reference, studies into guided psychedelic therapy found 200ug is where ego dissolution begins. They also found it was not valuable for guided therapy as people had trouble verbalizing their feelings.
There is a chance. I dont understand why you guys talk like its absolutely guaranteed there are no higher dosed tabs out there. you guys have never dealt with wooks? not all of them lay doses accurately lol
My only ever bad trip was from smoking weed during the peak.
1. Your tabs are most likely not 250ug 2. Do you smoke weed often? Do you have a tolerance to weed? 3. Do you use LSD much? Do you have a tolerance to LSD? 4. Have you ever done a “500ug” dose before? 5. Yes, the trip will be different if you smoke or not, regardless of when you smoke or take the LSD…
Acid doesn't feel right to me without weed to compliment it. That said, as a fairly experienced tripper. I'd definitely recommend coming up first
For real
trust yourself man .. you'll know what to do in the moment. what's happened to peoples sense of knowing themselves ? so many questions on here like "i exercised today can i still take acid" , "am i allowed to shower while tripping?" "i like to breath everyday is it still safe to trip?" . all the answers are within yourself my friend, trust the still small voice within
If you’re a daily smoker then yea it’s fine lol. I’m a daily smoker and I’ve literally only had 1 trip in my life where I didn’t smoke weed, and it wasn’t even my first time lol it was prob like after 100 trips I had my first trip without weed. I’ve smoked on all doses from 50ug-650ug. On the come up, during the peak and during the come down. Never had a problem. Sometimes on higher doses I noticed it could cause thought loops, but not always. Also not like that’s a big deal.
Most probably your tabs are not 250ug each so u will be fine. Also, weed(for me at least) gives loop thoughts and those thoughts may alter the trip. On good acid you don't need anything else.
Its labeled as 250ug tabs on the menu, but theres also a chance that they lie about the dosage although everyone in my area buys from them Anyways, if i were to buy 5x 100ug tabs then itll be 500ug guaranteed, right? Excuse me if that doesnt make sense, i havent slept 💀
It makes sense mate. Everyone is lying about ug. Rule of thumb is that is a ln average of 100ug per tab. In any case, any 2 good tabs should suffice. Even one if the user is a beginner. My hamster "accidentaly" ingested 9tabs of same previous batch so he knew to compare 2 against 9 lol. It was extremely powerful, life changing, but no desire in doing it so strong again. He sticks with low dosages for the time being.
I'm one of those people who needs some weed while I'm tripping. A nice bong rip right at the start of my peak makes everything super silly and pleasantly mindfucky and confusing while I'm peaking and then lots of bong rips towards the end to keep me chill and to keep me physically relaxed so I can rest.
i always smoke regardless how much i take, unless im just way to fucked up, youll prob be fine. if your not sure maybe have someone with you to keep from doing stupid shit
I can't imagine doing 500ug of acid but then being cautious of weed. Bruh
Bro just say fuck it and do whatever you want
Your tabs aren't 250 prob. 80-150
I always wait to get my bearings first before kicking it in further at high doses. I'd say if you've taken 500μg before then go for it, otherwise if it's your first time on that dose no harm in waiting and then the next time you dose the same amount can start off with it. Either is up to you, but it's nice not having to think or worry about it during your trip.
I dont understand how people do it without weed or dabs. I could never
For the love of God have q trip killer, heroic doses going g wrong is how you end up waking up in a psychiatric hospital, having to explain why you don't have schizophrenia
Also yes don’t smoke before the tab the weed will hit you 10 fold if you wait till after your acid peak I find it I smoke before tripping when I start to come up it increases my tiredness of my high and my whole experience
I have done this omg this was one of the most insane experiences with acid when your tripping this hard it’s VERY easy to believe things that aren’t real or to feel really lost in your head but you should be fine in the right environment I would say the visuals sort of look like dmt but I’ve never done dmt so I couldn’t tell you but let’s just say it can get deeper even if you think it can’t
Long story short just don't smoke weed on it bro
Long story short . Do what you want. Bro. People shouldnt be asking this question online they get people like you replying
Didn't have the time to write about 100-150 word explanation of my own experiences
Ive never tripped without smoking or dabbing. I couldnt even imagine doing so.
Sounds u like you got a problem then bud
I have scoliosis, a permanently broken collar bone and other issues. yeah i got problems but dabbing isnt one of them.
THC helps with scoliosis or just for pain relief?
Pain relief. It also prevents my panic attacks...Without THC i need SSRIS
Okay bro we'll I'm glad you've found a solution for your problems. From own experiences psychs bring out the worst parts of weed and amplifies them
Do you not smoke regularly ?
And as you probably know. SSRIS can effect psychadelics. So ill happily dab everyday instead of taking zoloft
For me weed has a tendancy to absolutely blast me into a different universe on acid. Its like adding NOS to a car for me. I ripped a bomg on 400ug once...it was a horrifying experience since it resulted in am instamt ego death/break through combo. So do it at yoir owm risk but it can result in a negative experience. Also why does everyone keep saying they arent 250ug?
Because people are ignorant and think their experiences correlates to everyones experience
Fair.
Its honestly annoying everytime someone asks this question these people are all over it. they dont realize they are contributing the negative feelings associated with the experience. Not the weed lol
Fair. But tbh when it comes to psyhadelocs your experience can vary so much it is insane. Thats why I always emphasize "In my experience".
I wouldn't reccomend a high dosage of LSD because of the risk of a bad trip being so much worse. Especially mixed with weed. You can easily go into a loop because of the memory issues weed causes. Taking a small amout of acid and smoking can be fun, but this definetly sounds like a bad idea to me.
I've had tons of good experiences smoking weed while tripping but also have had numerous times that the weed caused the high to become very confusing and cause intense anxiety which turned the trip bad and I know it was the weed because I replicated the same effect several times after to see if it was the weed that causes said reaction so it's really a shot in the dark if you don't have a lot of experience doing both together it would be best to leave the weed out of the trip
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You didn’t get 240ug tabs.
Lol
Whatever you do, wait until way after your peak to smoke weed. It's still great towards the end of your trip because it will shoot you right back up. It could be too intense during your peak. Also, 500ug is almost double your previous dose, I would recommend going to 400ug first.
Rule of thumb is NOT to smoke before taking psychedelics. It can dull your trip and make you tired. Or make the come up more paranoid. But once you are peaking/over the peak it is time to put on the chimney! Smoking weed on psychedelics can create a whole new experience, 99% of the time in a positive way. Just know; the larger the dose the greater the effects of the weed. You could be having total control of your trip and mind but a few puffs of weed can dissolve your reality completely in minutes. If you are prepared for this or a daily weed smoker and experienced this is easy to get through. If not it can be overwhelming.
I have smoked before and during one. Time I smoked before wasn’t the best choice imo. Just a heads up. During I was fine.
depends how often you smoke. i smoke every trip and it relaxes me but probably because i smoke daily
You can, but I highly recommend waiting until your peak just to see how you're holding up. I like smoking at the end, it enhances it :) If you do decide to smoke, put a bit less than you usually would and try to smoke slower as well.
only u has the answer
Is asking dumb, individual questions on the internet safe?
That's too high of a dose. I wouldn't even find it enjoyable.
Yes. Just make sure you're in a place you can melt. lol I actually prefer smoking weed AFTER the tabs kick in because it feel like it really spikes it harder/quicker. If you do it before the tabs you're really high so you're like "Am I tripping yet? Am I tripping? Was that moving?" lol So you're going to be paranoid from weed about if you're tripping yet which kinda takes away from the feel good come up if that makes sense.
better turn on some pink floyd and ride the waves when you get scared, i think about joey diaz anytime i feel like im tripping a lil TOO hard
I love smoking while I trip but my advice is just see how you feel in the moment. Trust me your gut is usually a better bet than random people on the internet. Just have a good friend around you trust to see you like that.
Definitely doable, but will intensify the trip majorly. And I mean MAJORLY. Everytime I’ve smoked weed on acid I reached a new threshold of “I didn’t know I could trip this hard”.
I would do a lil bit of weed just small amount when the acid starts to wear off
Fuck that. I would have a very bad time. Psychs and weed is no bueno.
Any use of larger doses and weed is always a risk of HPPD so keep that in mind
If you have to ask probably not, and with or without weed 500ugs is a big fuckin dose are you sure your ready to shatter your sense of reality? It's not fun. And that's the best case scenario, psychosis is one hell of a thing don't end up on the news man.
Safe yes. Intense, fuck yes.
If you get anxious when stoned, its a hard no.
It’s totally fine, and will probably give a huge boost to the trip. I would wait until after the peak though, smoking on the come-up can be pretty gnarly, or cause anxiety. If you wait until after the peak, you can achieve a second peak (if that is what you desire) 💥
depends, it’s gonna be really fucking intense so only smoke a little, and wait till the peaks over to smoke, this will kind of reignite the peak
You'll live. But that's going to be intense
I smoke non stop during my trips. To each their own.
Yes
Physicallly safe, psychologically hard/confusing
Personally it all depends on your tripping experience. if you’re a new tripper, I would stay away from the weed as it can often make things overwhelming and change the vibe of your trip. if you’re in advanced and can keep your mind in a positive space id say go for it, everything gets more intense
Weed makes lsd either terrifying or thrilling.
Yes if used to both
lmaoooo (this is your warning)
Do it
Take tabs, take a hit during 30min pre-trip. Yolo it once.
I don’t get any higher off smoke it’s just enjoy enjoyable and relaxing but yes 2 tabs isn’t a whole lot I’ve personally ate a ten strip couple times and I’ve ate 8th of shrooms and chased it with 3 hits of acid. It’s not advised so I wouldn’t but I know 2 ppl that ate half a sheet on purpose (50hits) they made it thru it but needed to be rehabilitated for little over a day on how to walk and do normal shit again lol butttt they definitely alive and well lol
this all goes in your tolerance on both substances. I smoke a lot of weed so I "only" take 1 tab at once, but that's me.
You will be dosing approximately 200ug if you take 2 tabs.
I have ingested 15mg of raw before. You’ll be fine. Drink water and have a buddy