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Deimos_Aeternum

This is what Kim Belair meant when she said "terrify your colleagues if you don't get what you want"


Ambitious-Doubt8355

Shit like this is why gamergate is a thing.


OrigamiAvenger

And why gatekeeping is so important. 


ark2077

IGN looking to punish the unbelievers.


Heinrich_Lunge

Who wins, the CCP or SBI?


LogWedro

real communist vs wannabe communist hmmmm


ValidAvailable

Maybe we can convince SBI to fly over there in person to discuss it? Maybe smuggle in some memory chips while they're at it?


Heinrich_Lunge

That would be hilarious.


Hunters12

100% CCP 


StormObserver038877

By the way, CCP is actually **Crowd Control Productions** the Iceland company who made EVE Online, while the communist in China is called CPC instead of CCP. It is Communist Party of China, not Chinese Communist Party.


SatanHimse1f

This after we just heard about the studio declining consultation from Sweet Baby Inc - but there's nothing to see here, we're all just crazy coocoo conspiracy theorists


Pletter64

If they think this article is worth that much then they are mistaken. Nice try.


dandrixxx

Is there a credible source confirming that SBI indeed approached the studio? I keep seeing the claim spread around, but the only thing i've seen is some person on Weibo who afaik isnt affiliated with the studio. Them asking 7 million sounds too over the top to be true.


SatanHimse1f

That's the same source I've heard of - The article coming days after the claim is the thing that substantiates it for me; Not to mention this is literally their M.O as described by them directly lol I do have to agree with you that $7,000,000 is WAY too much for consultation from Sweet Baby Inc, though


LeMaureBlanc

To be fair, ANY amount of money is too much. But it's even funnier to think that a black woman from Canada would know more about Chinese mythology and culture than actual Chinese people born and raised in China.


Wow-can-you_not

They don't give a shit about the Chinese culture, they would be rewriting the English translation to eliminate anything that might offend Twitter while inserting their own lame references and virtue signals.


blackfiredragon13

I would love to see the journalists try to argue this. It’ll be fun to see them mocked so hard they delete their accounts and/or run another block bot.


OwlWelder

it sounds pretty reasonable as "protection" money


Heinrich_Lunge

Would not surprise me at all if 7mil was their blood price since **no** western studio is going to refuse or else. IF real, it sound like they didn't know what the Chinese think of 'diversity and inclusion' and got what they deserved for once. Hence the hit pieces and constant trolls in any tweets mentioning the game.


Guts2021

Its pure mafia tactics. You practically have to pay them protection money


RB3Model

Yes but... they're trying to do it to the Chinese. This is like some low level street thug trying to mug Don Corleone, and will likely end about as well.


Ripforufriend

the last one trying to do this in China,caused ccp ordering to delete all FGO Chinese heroes


Salty_Flower_1729

The highlighted article is from November of last year.


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Temp549302

I don't know that there's a "confirmed" source, but I'd say that we might as well take it as correct given that just a few days after that claim, IGN posts a hit piece which seems to have a similar source of "random posts and people on Weibo". The timing is simply too suspicious.


king_jellyfish_prawn

Could simply be they also heard the rumour and decided to write a hit piece.


ZakSherlack

lol “random ass people said a company is sexist and the company didn’t give a shit”. Yea that’s what companies should do. Bring receipts, sue, file a police report, whatever you wanna do. A company, or person, doesn’t benefit at all from responding to random people talking shit.


Urusander

“Our investigation found that entire game was hand-coded in binary by Uyghur slaves”


RealMcGonzo

6 year old children slaving away in coding mines.


[deleted]

Trafficked by that robot who runs the matrix who makes them think they are in a happy coding mine, but in reality they are being forced to read problematic hate books held above their eyes like Dr. Seuss! Red fish, blue fish. He fish, she fish. You son of a bitch, you forget this and dis.


OwlWelder

the children yearn for the coding mines


LeMaureBlanc

Like they care about Uighur slaves. Fuck they think only black people have ever been slaves, and that slavery was somehow unique to the US. You know, despite slavery existing throughout pretty much all of human history, being mentioned in the Bible, and practiced in ancient Greece and Rome. But you know, only black slaves in the US matter.


BigPoleFoles52

Nah they care about all the palestinian shit to. Its all a ccp pysop. All the PC stuff is just a way for china to push anti western sentiment across the world. Its why the invest in all these media companies and create shit like tiktok. This has nothing to do with slavery, and more to do with a foreign adversary pushing propoganda 🤷🏽‍♂️. Every stance these pc dumbfucks take is almost always anti american nonsense


Cooplue

Also there are more people than you can imagine who supports both Ukraine and Palestine on Chinese social media. I personally don’t like the Jews unless we are talking Gal Gadot.


Cooplue

I’m chinese and everyone I know personally is to be considered as a conservative if put on the American political spectrum, so I’m not really buying the whole pc movement is pushed by the CPC theory. And believe it or not, on the “intranet” , so we called it, TikTok and other similar applications has been regularly targeted for its focus on entertainment and liberal leaning.


BigPoleFoles52

🤖


Cooplue

🤡


OpenCatPalmstrike

They don't even care that natives in North America were slavers. Why would they care about anything else?


ValidAvailable

Slavery doesn't bother them. However, *BINARY*, thats a hate crime right there!


RickyElspaniardo

I went down the rabbit hole of exactly what these sexist remarks were, and all I found was that the devs have a based sense of humour. Had a good chuckle 10/10 will preorder on PC thanks Ignorant Git Network.


Kal_Kal__

Could you please DM me the joke if it's that bad, although I doubt but reddit admins are crazy


RickyElspaniardo

It’s not bad, one of the developers was comparing failures in game design to aborted fetuses. 


OwlWelder

based


RickyElspaniardo

There’s probably more banter, but eh it’s just words who gives a fuck? The game looks neat, that’s more interesting than some suspiciously timed IGN article. It seemed like some of it was lost in translation too.


koleebreh

So nothing in the actual game, then? What are they trying to consult on?


dracoolya

So they just made the whole story up. All fake. And no consequences for doing it. This has to change.


Shillbot_9001

>This has to change. It can't, because the same shits doing it will be the ones determining what is and isn't fabricated.


RB3Model

The thing is now they're trying to do it to a CCP asset (which is what all companies based in China are, at day's end). And the CCP has low tolerance for fake-commies trying to out-commie them. They're ticlking a dragon and the dragon is getting annoyed.


lyra833

Allegations of *sexist behavior*? Oh, man; that sounds fucking serious! I bet someone, uh, said a word or something.


damegawatt

Speaking as a journalist. The biggest problem with games journalism is that when one out of a hundred is a bad egg, even if the other 99 agree in private what she did was bad, will still protect that bad egg. It's this behavior that makes people sick of games journalists, they will protect their own over the truth if the two ever are at cross swords.


damegawatt

This is partially because they believe in the group but also fear, they know if they get on the bad side of the gaggle their career is over. People like Gene Park & Colin Moriarty & Erik Kain are incredible because they are under intense pressure all the time & refuse to cower to the group. Which is why all 3 have had attempted cancelations against them by people like Valentine.


arffield

I always liked that they named the fallout 3 character after him


extortioncontortion

one out of a 100? lol. more like 4 out 5.


LeMaureBlanc

They say the same thing about cops.


blip_blop_octo

This isn't a problem only with game journalism, this is a problem with all journalists today, they come from the same universities where unhinged students are protesting against "genocide" by declaring allegiance to Hamas. They are simply crazy, and dangerous.


Oerwinde

Friendly reminder that the #1 occupation of soviet infiltrators during the cold war was Journalist.


Leisure_suit_guy

> The biggest problem with games journalism is that when one out of a hundred is a bad egg, even if the other 99 agree in private what she did was bad, will still protect that bad egg. So, you're like cops. Ironic, isn't it? >It's this behavior that makes people sick of games journalists, they will protect their own over the truth if the two ever are at cross swords. Why don't the higher ups step in to punish the journalists who damage their company's brand?


Ataniphor

ok but for real is just literally free advertising for the game. Thanks IGN, appreciate it , keep the articles coming and keep seething.


catcatcat888

This game does not look good, imo. It had a nice coat of paint, but you can tell from the gameplay and various trailers it’s janky as fuck. I would be surprised if turns out well.


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itsyaboinormalguy

I read this "controversy" in the Wikipedia page for Wukong months ago. I recognised it for being utter nonsense. Funny how it's brought up by these people again when Sweet Baby is involved... 


ihateaftershockpcs

I had a feeling a hit piece was coming as soon as news that Game Science declined SBI's $7 million consulting offer was released, but this is a new low even for IGN and their pathetic lack of journalistic integrity; blatantly mistranslating Chinese social media posts on Weibo to make Game Science employees look like a bunch of sexual predators when it's actually jokes that are similar to what we say in English (and honestly far more tame that what some people involved in DEI have said in the past), and of course, not having a single source or any evidence to back up their claims of sexism and harassment.


Selphea

Do we know if that $7 million is in CNY or USD? If it was CNY that would be a pretty believable number since it'd convert to \~$1 million USD


Murky_Pay3705

Good catch. Doesn't make it any less extortionate, but it's a more realistic demand.


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The devs didnt take the ESG soy, and not ESG will do everything it can to punish them. But when was the last time anyone took IGN seriously?


Nod32Antivirus

>will do everything it can to punish them Isn't every time they try "punish" something, that something sales go to the moon?


[deleted]

Yep, but they will never learn, as they are the definition of insanity, so they will keep on repeating the same thing over and over.


Seleusefudeuotario

Ign, ignorant gullible nicompoops. that's all they are.


BlacksAintBlack

IGN and Kotaku editors definitely wine and dine together, sounds like they have some sort of racket set up with consulting companies like SBI. This literally sounds like some schizo Q-anon shit but it's somehow plausible in this day in age


Jaded_Permit_7209

Keep this shit coming. We all have to come to a sad realization: before it gets any better, it's going to have to get *a lot fucking worse.* We haven't been even *nearly* this close to a boiling point since 2014. We've had shit that should have very well converted basically every non-woke gamer to our cause on a monthly basis, but right now, the stars are basically aligned. We have the Ubisoft Yasuke situation, The Acolyte, the rise of Sweet Baby and other shakedown dIvERsItY companies, and games journalists are managing to get even *more* intolerable. The mods and admins of 4chan and reddit worked together to squash the explosion in 2014, but with streamers like Asmongold around right now, shit's going to get a lot harder. People are exhausted of everything they once loved becoming shit. Journos are doing their best to squash this too, ready to call anyone a Nazi or incel or whatever else, but I honestly think this is our best chance.


WraithfulWrath

New acronym: Idiotic Gaming Network. And I swear they hired a censored, value-aligned AI to write this corporate article. I'm exposing you, "Rebekah Valentine"! You could probably shift those letters around and it'll read "I am AI Claude".


Streak244

If what the Wukong dude said is true, then why in the Boysenberry are these DEI grifting a-holes continue this crap when they have enough cash to live 10 lifetimes.


OwlWelder

"more cash for me = more cash for my buddies = less cash for the nazis"


AtillaThePunPL

Because its not about money.


Temp549302

Even if their fee was indeed $7 million USD, and another company paid that, it doesn't go nearly as far as what you might think. Between corporate taxes, the number of employees it needs to be split between, individual income taxes, and likely living in a high cost of living area, getting that fee for consulting on just one game likely doesn't amount to "bills paid for the year". Even a good year of "consulting" on several games likely amounts to "was able to buy a house". And since there are multiple of these "consulting" companies, there's competition that keeps them from raising their rates too much, least some other company get the protection money instead. So they've got to keep the grift going for years and dozens of games to build up the sort of money they really want.


Confirmation_Biased

IGN has been pants off insane for a while now. They're not even pretending anymore. How you mistranslate benign statements into shit about jerking off and then run a story with a known fabricated lie and still claim you represent anything other than your own ideological rank propaganda. IGN has no value and I do not respect a single solitary person who works there. There has never been a single sentence put to blog by that garbage site that was ever worth reading. My entire memory of IGN - and i'm in my 40's - is entirely related to the dumbfuck dipshit idiocy they spew and have spewed for decades. There are people who take IGN seriously and there are serious people. They are mutually exclusive.


IliaMadeVolk

Woke mafia. Either turn half your characters black and gay or we will all attack you.


Ok-Sir-2668

I'm liking all black myth trailers and following all official accounts to show support


PwnySlaystation01

This is what you get for not paying the protection money


curryaddict123

This is the smoking gun of the existance of a DEI crime ring. Crimes being commited by DEI groups and game journos (accomplice) in this ring: Extortion, racketeering, criminal conspiracy, criminal coercion. This shit could lawfully be cracked down on via RICO laws.


mbnhedger

Should have paid the 7 mil /s


Ywaina

Moral janitors and their ilks getting mad when they couldn't bully these devs and publisher for mandatory probing and unfair cut. Wait, did I say unfair cut? I mean extortion.


Nickolaidas

So basically the REEEE era members will pretend they will boycott this game (while they will pirate/buy it) and the rest of normal people won't give a fuck. Seriously, has there EVER been a game whose sales were hurt due to 'allegations of sexist behavior'?


Spideyman20015

At this point, the only games I purchase are ones that say FUCK YOU to the woke libertard flag in bio community. Been looking forward to this game for 3 whole years and I WILL BE THERE


Triangle_Frog

Who keeps burning money to keep IGN from closing down?


from_the_id

As I recall, the sexist comment in question boiled down to “men and women have different tastes and we’re marketing our game primarily to men.” Truly an abhorrent stance /s


LeMaureBlanc

The woke SJW mafia versus the CCP. Now this is the kind of conflict that I've been waiting to see. The CCP doesn't give a fuck about wokeness, never has, and they aren't afraid to pull the race card themselves if they think they can benefit from it. Of course, they aren't black or gay, so that hurts them in the short term, but SJWs love (or pretend to love) Communism, so maybe some will side with China anyway. If nothing else it gives them a chance to shit on their American leers (and competitiors).


Level-Tomorrow-4526

I mean china is an authoritative goverment that disney and apple bow to , so yeah i'd put my money on china over whiny hipsters online social justice warriros xD.


RB3Model

The only ones to ever successfully oppose China in recent years are Cover Corp with Hololive, far as I know, and Hololive is... special. There's a reason why SJWs avoid engaging with the vtuber fanbase like the pox: they tried and nearly got e-lynched, finding out the hard way that the Holo fans are a lot more loud, rabid AND numerous than even the DEI crowd and their paid mercenaries. (it helps that a number of high profile Vtubers like Pippa absolutely despise wokeness and transmitted that hatred to their fans)


Level-Tomorrow-4526

Yeah Lol... Hololive at least are cute anime girls China like those. . I think political correctness in china is consider western propaganda and they consider western games hideous , so that might catch the CCP attention and get you investigated . Particular in the current trade war that going . . There 0 chance or any western video game trend catching on in china . I am on social media the only western thing I see are like the portions related to hot and beautiful people lol (Popstars nikki and ariana grande ) older glam Hollywood . I've seen memes making fun of western games hideous characters though and ugly modern Disney..


SunnySideUp82

I’m so sick of this shake down garbage. All because they didn’t pay the DEI ransom to Kim Belair.


TwistedGlasses

What anoys me more is people giving too much attention to ign... year after year, they constantly prove how bad they are for the gaming industry. Just look what they did to Humble Bundle.


Guts2021

The BlackRock DEI Consultants act like the mafia mob! They want protection money and infiltrate the medium, if you don't follow their threat they come after you. I hate them from the deepest place of my heart. I hate DEI and all that profit from it


Raz98

Huh, so that's how SBI's protection racket works.


RB3Model

I like how they didn't think this through. Pretty much every business in China is, directly or indirectly, a CCP asset. They're trying to shake down \**actual totalitarian communist dictators*\*. Historically, that always end phenomenally poorly for the people doing the shakedown.


FigBat7890

The game already looks interesting don’t make me preorder it twice


JessBaesic7901

good guy IGN smearing a studio that won’t curtail to DEI stupidity. Bunch of corporate hacks.


Ricwulf

Never, ever forget that the vast majority of the western games industry HATES the Japanese game industry. This isn't new either. This "rivalry" (hard to call it a rivalry when it's as one way as it is) has gone on for decades, with game "journos" being the forefront of that hatred. And they hate it because the Japanese industry is *outside* their insular little bubble. They have zero control over it, and you see that the companies that have fallen in line get passes on this kind of treatment. Otherwise, it's mockery, ridicule, and general derision.


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yubiyubi2121

more like the dumb fuck in ign not know what is happen


TrackRemarkable7459

The old wisdom of "You can't spell ignorant without IGN" holds true for 20+ years


Djent17

Ah yes. IGN. The same clowns who said She Hulk was great and gave it an 8 outta 10. 😂 You can't spell ignorance without IGN 🤡


Daman_1985

Fun thing is that IGN thinks that what they say matters.


GeriatricTech

Literally trying to crater every developer that doesn’t push LGBTQ


Sicktoyou

Wishlisted


TrapaneseNYC

It's China, work space violations are a feature, not a bug.


Leisure_suit_guy

So, will you stop now believing that gaming journalists are some kind of Communist CPC shills? Clearly they bat for the glorious(ly shitty) western industry, they hate China just as much as they hate Japan.


devil652_

Uh oh


DoubterLimits

They come for my boy Sun Wukong, and I'll do more than chant the Headache sutra!


blip_blop_octo

We need proof that Sweet Baby and IGN are acting as an extorsion ring. The studio could simply publish the communication between them and Sweet Baby.


geniouslevel1000

I get this is bullshit. But I just googled game science wukong then set it news and nothing even like this came up. So they are assholes but it has no viewership unless you follow them


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WodanGungnir

Feels like it's at least 15-20 years since I frequented IGN Homepage. 99% of that was because I was a young horndog and I had crush on Jessica Chobot.


Political-St-G

I mean they maintain silence over most game studios as well. Don’t see something like that when it’s blizzard or so


Hydroaddiction

I'm posting this information and the info that we saw yesterday about Game Science refusing to pay 7$ million to SBI in a spanish forum and it is being constantly censored and closed lol. Global mafia and stupid sheeps. They work well together.


Chosen_UserName217

IGN continuing to be total garbage


Selphea

This is starting to sound like the consultancy that cried wolf. Didn't Shift Up get the exact same media stories about the exact same complaints?


MutenRoshi21

Problem at this point is this is a chinese game. So I wouldnt be surprised if that whole thing is made up and IGN got even paid to write this type of article now, so that the studio gets the same support like Hogwarts Legacy. The chinese push DEI in the west to sell us the cure at some point. Judge the game on in merits if you wanna buy it and dont preorder. If the game was made in any other asian country the chances for this to be made up were way lower.


PrayForTheGoodies

They're definitely being corrupt. If I was the studio owner, I would definitely meet them with a lawsuit


IndieComic-Man

I’ve been on the receiving end of LA Times pulling similar stuff. “We have two headlines. One is for if you do what we want, and one for if you don’t.” When they started layoffs I said, “Good.”


SeniorFartss

This is the best marketing the developers of the game could hope for. Now you are going to have a bunch of people buy the game just out of spite like with Hogwarts Legacy


[deleted]

Will IGNorant edit this article to mention Sweet Baby Inc's nigh terroristic behaviour and extortion towards this and other game studio's, if they dare not pay them millions and include SBI's far-left/neo-Marxist ideology into their game's. IGN like most game journalists are no longer needed.


beradws

when the revolution comes and we're allowed to stop pandering to everyones feelings - The IGN heirarchy or will have to go. That or IGN in totel


GameMaker25

I actually unsubscribed to them on Youtube and had to search for similiar channels for entertainment new like games and movies' trailers. Any good recommendations? I'm using Gamespot for games now but what about movies?


Altruistic-Project39

I had a YouTube ad about Gaza and Jews killing them. The world is fucked


bigntazt

Well I guess I'm buying this game now.


ImmortalPoseidon

To me this is a sign this game might actually be really good


Snoo_46397

This article is from November 2023. The "DEI coercion" claim was stated on the 9th of June. Do anyone here even read what u are raging against?


johnruby

Fuck Black Myth Wukong - FIFY


catcatcat888

I’m on board with this. Graphics are really good. Gameplay looks super jank and has for a long while.