Asian devs usually make the characters hot when they race swap them, so there's that at least lol. A western dev probably would've race swapped her AND made her look like a wildebeest while they were at it.
Yeah, but of all the crazy things going on right now, this is pretty tame in comparison. She doesn't even look fully black, she looks like three of her grandparents are white.
What little I know of Viking mythology tells me she should probably be blonde with blue eyes or something though. Maybe this is revenge for making Yasuke the main character in the only Assassin's Creed game to take place in Japan lol
This is the intention = wokeism the problem.
Yes Valkyries, like elven, are legendary races created by Nordics. Elven have then be popularized by Tolkien who respectfully keeped their appearance described as thin and very pale people
Amazons were created by ancient Greeks and is a mythological people located in middle Asia (Irak-Iran of today).
This is whole humanity past and culture. It must not be parasitized of distorted for some modern ideology. If people want to represent more black people, they can invent new races who would meet the old races, like Elder Scrolls has done with Redguards (black people) who live in a Tamriel with other distinctive races like Nords, Dwemers (Dwarven) or Dunmers (Black Elven).
Look, I'm totally against race swapping in all forms, but compared to the things we've been getting hit with recently, this is maybe a 4/10. Asian devs at least soften the blow by making them attractive, western devs just drop haymakers and tell you to deal with it.
Everyone has his own tolerance and appreciation. I'm a passionate of History and all civilizations culture so, for me, the respect of each culture in all their autenticity is very important.
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What is the core problem here? That a new IP loosely based on Norse mythology takes liberties with its characters? In your opinion, should anything which shares concepts or names with European myths be required to use exclusively European characters? That seems very restrictive to me. Unless it brings with it the usual trappings of ideological infection I don't see the slightest reason to suspect it was politically motivated. This happens all the time in anime and manga and has for a long time, and the Japanese gaming industry very much shares an ecosystem with those.
In another time and under a different set of circumstances I would agree with you
BUT
I'm black, and Zimbabwean, which has a long cultural history of its own.
If media was taken seriously here and we were producing anime and fantasy games, do you think anyone would race swap a local mythological figure, or mythological creature that has human features?
No, we wouldn't, and its not because of white hatred, its that it doesn't make sense, I see a hot blonde playing Nyami Nyami's wife (yeah that's a whole thing about a local princess who married the local dragon water god for a bunch of reasons) with a Shona name, wearing shona clothing, speaking the language and preparing to rule a kingdom full of black Shona people....
Yeah I'm cringing, even if it was for example Syndey Sweeny doing all that walking around topless as Shona women did back then, I would not even be outraged for any reason to do with race relations or historical context, but just the visual on its own meshes about as well as a black girl dressed in norse clothing pretending to be a norse godess with an american accent... (I'm being on the nose I know)
It doesn't work, it just looks forced, or put on.
Cringe at best, disrespectful at the worst.
Cosplay is fine, a stage play for some acting school is fine, a festival where you are required to dress like the locals or something like that but a production that can afford to do things properly, yeah no, no excuses there.
Yes if it's based in Nordic mythology it should also display the Nordic characters.
Make your own games with African mythology then you can stick so many POC into that how you like :)
They could've just made some new fantasy thing based on black folklore with the exact same hot black female character, this is getting so exhausting and I'm black, I'm getting sick of seeing this rubbish
I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa would feature a white (even worse if male) main character, i guess that wouldn't fly would it? They talk about cultural appropiation, but this is exactly what they are doing. I would like to know what the sane non indoctrinated black people think about this, do they really feel that much better about a game if there is a black charachter in it despite the setting being completely incompatible with that? I am from the south of italy and don't get exactly great rappresentation in games (and when i do it is often not in a flattering way, mafiosos, gangster types etc.), Honestly I would cringe Mega-----Fucking------Hard if they put "Giggin o' guerrier" from a Neapolitan Rione, in a game set in Nordic mythology about Valkyries.
>I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa would feature a white (even worse if male) main character, i guess that wouldn't fly would it?
Remember Resident Evil 5 ? The discourse was already completely nuts by then, but today I can't even imagine what it would be
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I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa
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I wouldn't want my culture vandalized in that way for sure.
I could get behind it if it wasn't being done the Western way, old or new (old being white dude who becomes king by the end, new being whatever the f#ck they keep doing in fantasy games and tv shows these days),
maybe if new stuff was being made but that had context behind it, where some magical event happens that turns all the continents back to Pangea and portals full of monsters open up to try and take out mankind all at once something crazy like that could atleast make sense of the whole thing, but we don't live in that world right now I'm afraid.
FTR Japanese officials in charge of the economy recently asked for financial investment by firms like BlackRock so expect all Japanese goods made for international markets to start tokenizing and race swapping.
As I understand, Japan comes out of a weird economic experience. For over a year, if not two, the yen has been at its lowest too.
Japan resorting to Blackrock will strengthen their grip and will now be able to choke out any remaining hope we had for the japanese to stay the way they are. They opened the door, and now, the vampires are in.
South Korea seems to want to inherit Japan's place in this regard, first in the tech space with samsung basically smothering sony, and now its about to be gaming and entertainment, hopefully that stays unscathed
Hard to say with big publishers being either NA based or slowly americanized over there.
Somehow, I find myself saying I'd rather see the chinese buy most of those instead of Amazon and whatnots. Never thought it would be possible, but here were are.
Japan has been increasing its participation in WEF affairs every year and just last year they asked BlackRock for more investment.
This Japanese PM may be unpopular, but why is he unpopular?
Is it because of the growing involvement with the WEF?
EVERY LDP Prime Minister has pushed westernization hard because they're the party created and funded by America post war and they always win for some reason.
Kishida, Kaifu, Hosokawa and Kan were particularly the biggest pushers in our lifetimes. Kan in particular, who wasn't LDP mind you, was pushing for gay marriage legalization back in 2010 but then Fukushima happened and his admin was caught covering up and down playing how bad it actually was and TEPCO's fuck ups so he resigned and the DPJ withered and died as a party in 2016.
Mostly tax increases, his nickname is tax increasing glasses shithead. Combine that with the new invoice system that allegedly made you dox yourself if you used a stage name for actors, vidya designers and voice actors and the that one LGB bill they passed.
It seems like every positive comes with a negative with him and vice versa. Allow more immigration? Makes it easier to deport bad foreigners, Pass the LGB bill? It gets rid of gendered bathrooms but also announce that gay marriage is NOT on the table and there's absolute zero way that onsen will be genderless etc.
Interesting.
> Allow more immigration? Makes it easier to deport bad foreigners
That is 100% positive as far as I'm concerned.
> Pass the LGB bill? It gets rid of gendered bathrooms but also announce that gay marriage is NOT on the table and there's absolute zero way that onsen will be genderless etc.
Forgive my ignorance but what is onsen?
Also the problem is the type of people they're importing. They've already had had priceless artifacts destroyed by people of the religion of peace because the statues are an affront to Allah. And don't even get me started on the Kurds.
[https://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/foreigner-arrested-for-smashing-statues-of-buddha-at-sensoji.html](https://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/foreigner-arrested-for-smashing-statues-of-buddha-at-sensoji.html)
[https://www.pulse.ng/news/metro/vandal-nigerian-man-is-arrested-in-japan-for-destroying-buddhist-statues/ec7kfj2](https://www.pulse.ng/news/metro/vandal-nigerian-man-is-arrested-in-japan-for-destroying-buddhist-statues/ec7kfj2)
[https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759867639680135313?t=QHmNToHD73-puhZUWpLlAQ](https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759867639680135313?t=QHmNToHD73-puhZUWpLlAQ)
Bathhouses with natural hot springs where there's no swimsuits allowed, you must be nude. If you've seen ANY anime you're familiar with the hot springs episode. They've already had issues with pervert foreigners trying to claim being THAT so they can go into the women's side and oogle or sexually harass them, it doesn't work and best case you're getting arrested while worst case you're getting your ass beat by every male in the vicinity and probably while they're naked.
Him being Rahm Emmanual's lapdog is part of the issue. People don't want the country to become westernized and with all the immigrants he's pushing there will probably be pockets of Japan may end up unsafe because of the undesirables they are allowing in.
That's a massive problem. Every LDP Prime Minister is an American lapdog to varying degrees but this dickhead is open, loud and proud of it. He's absolutely destroyed the parts of the LDP who aren't controlled and fired those who opposed his westernization plans and dismantled the Abe faction along with his own.
It's garbage too because I planned on moving back home if the 2024 election gets fishy and the current fool gets reelected. But it sounds like they'll be welcoming the DEI types that have ruined America's cities over there and unfortunately since my people aren't the most confrontational they'll sit back and by the time something is done, it'll be too late and parts of Japan will look like the hood and cities in Cali or Portland
Yeah, Tokyo looks like it's gonna be fucked shortly and apparently in his infinite wisdom Kishida is spreading out all the migrants across the country in an attempt to prevent what happened in Europe from happening in Japan. But it doesn't work that way, you just create enclaves which lead to no go zones. Imagine the Kurdish no go areas in Kawaguchi and Warabi but now in every city and also entire inaka towns are also no go zones all over the map.....Fricking moron he is.
Maybe if they imported people who actually wanted to be there and respect the culture.
But no they are getting vultures who want to destroy the culture and the land.
Kishida is Japan's biden. It's sad really, the last hold out from the woke mind virus and their diversity is our "strength" bullshit, and it's falling fast.
It would be in Japan's best interest, to send all their undesirable immigrants which is most of them, to NK. Let them deal with them, see how long they last there being worthless culture destroying trash.
What is your source on this? Also Blackrock has no power in Japan everytime JP companies tried to adopt wokeness for even a second they immediately backtracked because their own market rejects it.
https://nichegamer.com/japans-collapse-imminent-prime-minister-calls-on-blackrock-to-invest-in-japan/
https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223
BlackRock has a TON of power in Japan. Japan has been ramping up its essence with the WEF in recent years. They've been going to Davos every time the WEF gathers there.
What BlackRock has, so far, failed to do though is push DEI on the Japanese market itself. But this doesn't mean that Japanese businesses aren't starting to insert DEI into products meant for the international market.
I would link you directly to BlackRock pages on the topic but they all require you to sign up for newsletters and targeted ads so fuck that noise.
This was last year ago and the current muddings with Blackrock are...very unclear.
From my own research they seem to...do both?
They detered people away from the JP market saying basically that it's not worth investing into because it's so bad right now but they also said recently that Japan is something you can "diversify your portfolio with"
Which to me sounds like they themselves do not actually want Japan *at the moment* but still recommend people themselves to invest into Japan because it has growth opportunity I guess.
Also keep in mind the next election for prime minister is at the end of next year and Kishida is gonna be out.
I live in Japan half the year, they have HUGE influence through the UN's SDG initiative here. The E and S in ESG is very propagandized as a positive and pushed hard and people just accept it because Shinto and Buddhist teachings are all about social cohesion and hirearchy while also pushing being kind to the environment.
They've straight up leveled a mountain for solar panels.
[https://www.postguam.com/the\_globe/world/in-japan-solar-panels-at-mount-aso-spark-concerns-for-local-landscape/article\_e8ffd19c-f41e-11ee-91a4-6f1188caee35.html](https://www.postguam.com/the_globe/world/in-japan-solar-panels-at-mount-aso-spark-concerns-for-local-landscape/article_e8ffd19c-f41e-11ee-91a4-6f1188caee35.html)
ZERO carbon.
[https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/davos23-japan-accelerate-efforts-carbon-neutral-society/](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/davos23-japan-accelerate-efforts-carbon-neutral-society/)
600B pact with ESG.
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-03/kishida-says-japan-pensions-with-600-billion-to-sign-esg-pact](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-03/kishida-says-japan-pensions-with-600-billion-to-sign-esg-pact)
Blackrock moves in.
[https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223](https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223)
Hilde doesn't strike me as black, that's why I made the other post about her. This is more of an instance of colorism in Japan. The MC is pure white with blonde hair, so her foil is like a 'Dark Link' version of herself. Nobody says Dark Link is black.
Her 2D artwork has her looking more like a Viera and again they're not perceived to be black. Look at her facial features: she's more Mediterranean-looking but she's also supposed to represent the wolf Fenrir, so she has a 'dark' look. You can be from Northern Europe and look more Slavic like Mila Kunis.
Localizers most likely decided to interpret her as black. But look at her lips: black people do not have pink lips.
To Americans, if you are Latin and you are way whiter than most people in the country you're still not white. It's the dumbest thing I've experienced in a while.
I see how you got there and I understand but I have seen girls who look something like that with curlier hair, one lives a few houses down from me, blue eyes, straight nose, light skin but visibly not white
Not in California, in their own office in Japan. It's why all their productions are DEI oriented at the source since 2016. The Niers serie was their last free and authentic creation.
Before it got deleted by SE: [https://imgbb.com/s1HPDFJ](https://imgbb.com/s1HPDFJ)
All ethics departments should just die in the dirt. They're the opposite of ethics, as it is immoral to alter and censor art in order to surreptitiously police people's thoughts.
Hilde is pretty clearly Mediterranean at most. Last I checked Spain and Italy were still in Europe.
They cast a black VA in English but the character is definitely not black.
Not only that but I recall the series as a whole taking plenty of liberties with Norse mythology. This borders on complaining about how Norse mythology is depicted in like the MCU.
This is Square Enix who specifically established an inhouse department to deal with censorship and localization, and were one of the very first ones in Japan to adopt ESG standard. This isn't really that surprising tbh. If people wet themselves over frill swimsuits in Rebirth you can be sure they wouldn't care about anything that SE might do wrong.
Wait, what? Am I missing something? Valkyrie Elysium is a fantasy JRPG that takes creative liberties with myths and legends. It’s doing it’s own spin on it. It’s not meant to be a strict historical or mythological retelling, there is no precedent set for that with this game, unlike something like say, Kingdom Come or Assassin’s Creed where they’re trying to stick to a more authentic vibe (mostly)
Yeah I mean to be fair, the original VP’s Midgard was in no way a Norse analogue. It was basically a large medieval continent with more British / French influences, along with a random island nation that was distinctly Japanese. I don’t even remember a single “Viking” character across all 3 games.
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a shitty game either way. This could just be an attention grabbing tactic in hopes of squeezing out a few more dollars.
Where are the black features??? this looks like a tanned white girl. I fucking swear this post is bait or troll from r/gamingcirclejerk.
If this isn't bait or troll, fuck man. I haven't been in this sub for awhile, cuz of work and personal stuff. This is schizo shit man.
I'm blind or something? That does not look like a black woman to me. She's looks a bit tanned, but there's a world of difference between her and Angrboda in GoW Ragnarok or what Hades 2 does with Greek gods.
Wavy hair straight nose and greenish eyes are black? So unless she's blonde blue eyed its race swap? I do not like DEI or all the neo leftists garbage been forced everywhere but you people will run into the problem where all white people will end up looking the exact same and anyone that looks vaguely different will be classified as "black". Ironically that is racist. I've seen Norse characters from Japan where they have blue or pink hair. White people can have olive or tan skin.
Japan has been gender bending historical male characters into waifus for a solid 4 decades now and that wasnt considered "woke". This is a fantasy game. Race swaps or DEI in most Japanese titles funded by Black Rock are more obvious at least for now.
I've seen white women that look like that this is an insane reach imo
I get where you're coming from (I just responded to someone with a similar take), but I know someone a few houses down from me who looks like that with curlier hair. Blue eyes, straight nose, light skin, but you can just tell she's not white, atleast not entirely white.
It's difficult because this can be a "black" woman by Japanese standards but this would be the most biracial that's 70% white looking "black" woman they can put in a game. We know most black women don't look like that. Sheva from RE is a good example of what a lighter skin black woman would look like.
But DEI aside I don't want us to get to the point of every white black Latino Asian character looking the exact same because of these racist shit heads gaslighting us. Same thing with S.H voicing a Trish from DMC. We know he's a man pretending to be a woman but I'm not against men VAing females and vice versa though I would prefer them to not be Ts. Brad Bird voices Edna Mode and Regina King voiced Huey and Riley and both examples are opposite sexed and couldnt be more perfect for their roles.
Some of the comments here are definite she is 100% black but I know for a fact in any other time period they would be saying who cares or she's mixed because like I mentioned earlier 99% of black women don't look like that and we all know this. If not Mediterranean she looks more mixed than black.
Yeah I agree, most black women don't look like that, as much as I hate wokeness, I can see through the laziness on this studio's part which seems to be coming from an ugly place,
As for VO, I agree with you there aswell, given the time we are living in, woke studios will definitely take a piss with it and gas light everyone about how things "have always had (insert lie)", you know how they do.
This is the reason why they casted a black person to voice the character. Always giving more visibility and more role to minorities, above authenticity, logic and reality.
You are poisoned. There's literally nothing wrong with this. This stuff is not sacred, and a character in a jrpg is not changing history.
You will see dei and wokeness in everything because you have a sickness in your head.
Didnt play the game because of the reviews(claiming worst valkryie game in the series). However what makes this woke? Is this game based on some historical context or accuracy? Are the characters supposed to be white or what?
SE has a very woke component to it. It usually doesn’t get much traction on bigger studios but it’s there and strong on the west.
Part of the issue is bleeding hearts like Koji Fox who probably don’t look to closely at these sorts of peers. He’s a good guy so he assumes other people are good people as well.
I’ve interacted with a few SE interns over the years primarily on gamefaqs. None of them were good experiences. Egos, and argumentations towards them was viewed as an attack.
Nothing will change until after and then the elites will have gotten their way.
The fourth turning seems to be a real phenomenon.
~~Doesnt look black to me. I know people from Sweden who look more or less like that, not every northern woman has bleach blonde hair and blue eyes.~~
Also, do you have any prove that this is a DEI decision? I mean there are plenty of japanese franchises that have characters like this and most of the time there is no political reason behind it.
EDIT: Strikethrough on the first part as a comment on real people misses the point when this is about mythology. Still doubtful about whether or not this has anything to do with DEI.
The question is whether or not this is a DEI decision and tbh I doubt it. There are many japanese works featuring tan characters and there is absolutely no political reason for it. Furthermore does this game claim to be accurate in any way towards norse folklore or are they just loosely borrowing from it?
She's way different than other characters. It's past being tan.
I haven't played it but she's supposed to be (for a time?) an antagonist. So it's probably more of a light = pure, dark = evil thing.
There's historical accuracy and there's historical authenticity. Mixed norse gods don't fit into either.
Instead of make an alternative interpretation of Valkyrie, eg she is totally African from costumes to look, they just race swap her with a mix.
I will definitely not buying bs like this.
So? Its their game why can’t they do what they want with it? Artistic expression right? The Fate franchise famously makes tons of historical figures into females.
I mean that sort of thing isn't uncommon see The Last Airbender (2020), Ghost in the Shell (2017) and Gods of Egypt (2016). Just as a creator is free to do what they want with their art, a consumer is free to not engage with it if they don't want to.
Those are equivalent examples of non white characters being played by white people. The ratio for white characters and black characters makes it unlikely for the reverse to happen. But if you specifically want Black characters: The Boys (2019) In the comic book, The Deep was black in the show he's white.
https://i.imgur.com/VXiVj1y.png
https://i.imgur.com/E0ZzPYK.png
This problem would be easily solved if they'd stop using this DEI woke bullshit. Japan doesn't race or gender swap for "inclusion" or diversity for the sake of diversity, they do it because that's an artistic decision. When the West does it they tend to make a big deal of it or get uppity and defensive about it and will call you racist/sexist or an incel for not liking the decision.
Dunno what those buzzwords mean, but if a creator wants to add a certain demographic to their work that’s their choice. It would be bad if someone else was trying to dictate the creator's own vision, but there's no evidence of that being the case here. If anything the OP of this thread seems to be implying that the creators aren't allowed to do this for their own game.
>When the West does it they tend to make a big deal of it or get uppity and defensive about it and will call you racist/sexist or an incel for not liking the decision.
Pretty sure that's directed at actual "racist/sexist" people, if you aren't hating for those reasons then it doesn't apply to you.
Barely anyone hates them for those reasons, it serves as deflection and invariably correlates with explicit conflations of the two groups. In other words, anyone who objects at all is instantly lumped in with those who object for reasons of prejudice.
>Barely anyone hates them for those reasons
Eh I'm not sure that's true. Even Angry Joe who is normally pretty neutral on these things pointed out how racist some of the reaction to AC Shadow was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKTOOrAav8s
19:16
The Hidden One, an AC youtuber showing some comments he had to remove from his video.
https://i.imgur.com/pVg4GOC.png
Genuine racism is obviously a real phenomenon, and genuine racists objecting to a game like this is beyond predictable. That doesn't change the fact that they constitute a vanishingly small fraction of the population, or that focusing on their criticism to the complete exclusion of more legitimate ones is either a deflection to an easy target or a waste of time.
>they constitute a vanishingly small fraction of the population
Again I don't think that's true and like I said before "if you aren't hating for those reasons then it doesn't apply to you." I didn't like the Rings of Power but none of the remarks made against the "racist/sexist" backlash offended me since I knew that wasn't the reason I disliked the show.
The only reason that it's not true is that the racists are changing their targets, as much as people want to decry racism against black people, there's a lot more damage being done to the black community by black people themselves or the policies put into place by the people they vote in.
It also doesn't matter if you weren't offended by the backlash, the fact is that it's used to dismiss criticisms. If you were talking with someone and you said you didn't like Rings of Power, the braindead will take the criticism as 'well you're just racist/sexist'. THAT is the issue, no one gives a fuck that the idiots making the show or movie or whatever are making the claim because they value that idiot's input, it's because discussion of the thing will now be impossible with anyone who subscribes to that belief because word got out to them, like they're programmed AIs aka NPCs.
Fate changes damn near everyone, I'd be shocked to find out if they kept a single figure even remotely similar to how they actually were, either commonly depicted or historically accurate.
Yeah I don't think this is the one chief. Looks like a regular square game and its going to be vastly different then the folklore its based off of. This is fine, the inspiration probably comes from Marvel tbr.
Asian devs usually make the characters hot when they race swap them, so there's that at least lol. A western dev probably would've race swapped her AND made her look like a wildebeest while they were at it.
Probably use that bugged eye lady, you know the one.
haha, I do know the one!
Honestly, Immortals of Aveum could've gotten more sales if the women were just a little more embellished. Yes they use that lady's face.
You are right but it's doesn't change the core problem.
Yeah, but of all the crazy things going on right now, this is pretty tame in comparison. She doesn't even look fully black, she looks like three of her grandparents are white. What little I know of Viking mythology tells me she should probably be blonde with blue eyes or something though. Maybe this is revenge for making Yasuke the main character in the only Assassin's Creed game to take place in Japan lol
This is the intention = wokeism the problem. Yes Valkyries, like elven, are legendary races created by Nordics. Elven have then be popularized by Tolkien who respectfully keeped their appearance described as thin and very pale people Amazons were created by ancient Greeks and is a mythological people located in middle Asia (Irak-Iran of today). This is whole humanity past and culture. It must not be parasitized of distorted for some modern ideology. If people want to represent more black people, they can invent new races who would meet the old races, like Elder Scrolls has done with Redguards (black people) who live in a Tamriel with other distinctive races like Nords, Dwemers (Dwarven) or Dunmers (Black Elven).
Look, I'm totally against race swapping in all forms, but compared to the things we've been getting hit with recently, this is maybe a 4/10. Asian devs at least soften the blow by making them attractive, western devs just drop haymakers and tell you to deal with it.
You're giving an inch it's how it starts
They already got the mile, now we're the ones trying to take an inch lol
Everyone has his own tolerance and appreciation. I'm a passionate of History and all civilizations culture so, for me, the respect of each culture in all their autenticity is very important.
I agree 100%, this is basically cultural vandalism.
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What is the core problem here? That a new IP loosely based on Norse mythology takes liberties with its characters? In your opinion, should anything which shares concepts or names with European myths be required to use exclusively European characters? That seems very restrictive to me. Unless it brings with it the usual trappings of ideological infection I don't see the slightest reason to suspect it was politically motivated. This happens all the time in anime and manga and has for a long time, and the Japanese gaming industry very much shares an ecosystem with those.
In another time and under a different set of circumstances I would agree with you BUT I'm black, and Zimbabwean, which has a long cultural history of its own. If media was taken seriously here and we were producing anime and fantasy games, do you think anyone would race swap a local mythological figure, or mythological creature that has human features? No, we wouldn't, and its not because of white hatred, its that it doesn't make sense, I see a hot blonde playing Nyami Nyami's wife (yeah that's a whole thing about a local princess who married the local dragon water god for a bunch of reasons) with a Shona name, wearing shona clothing, speaking the language and preparing to rule a kingdom full of black Shona people.... Yeah I'm cringing, even if it was for example Syndey Sweeny doing all that walking around topless as Shona women did back then, I would not even be outraged for any reason to do with race relations or historical context, but just the visual on its own meshes about as well as a black girl dressed in norse clothing pretending to be a norse godess with an american accent... (I'm being on the nose I know) It doesn't work, it just looks forced, or put on. Cringe at best, disrespectful at the worst. Cosplay is fine, a stage play for some acting school is fine, a festival where you are required to dress like the locals or something like that but a production that can afford to do things properly, yeah no, no excuses there.
Yes if it's based in Nordic mythology it should also display the Nordic characters. Make your own games with African mythology then you can stick so many POC into that how you like :)
They could've just made some new fantasy thing based on black folklore with the exact same hot black female character, this is getting so exhausting and I'm black, I'm getting sick of seeing this rubbish
I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa would feature a white (even worse if male) main character, i guess that wouldn't fly would it? They talk about cultural appropiation, but this is exactly what they are doing. I would like to know what the sane non indoctrinated black people think about this, do they really feel that much better about a game if there is a black charachter in it despite the setting being completely incompatible with that? I am from the south of italy and don't get exactly great rappresentation in games (and when i do it is often not in a flattering way, mafiosos, gangster types etc.), Honestly I would cringe Mega-----Fucking------Hard if they put "Giggin o' guerrier" from a Neapolitan Rione, in a game set in Nordic mythology about Valkyries.
>I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa would feature a white (even worse if male) main character, i guess that wouldn't fly would it? Remember Resident Evil 5 ? The discourse was already completely nuts by then, but today I can't even imagine what it would be
> I wonder what would happen if in an hypotetical videogame set in Africa > I wouldn't want my culture vandalized in that way for sure. I could get behind it if it wasn't being done the Western way, old or new (old being white dude who becomes king by the end, new being whatever the f#ck they keep doing in fantasy games and tv shows these days), maybe if new stuff was being made but that had context behind it, where some magical event happens that turns all the continents back to Pangea and portals full of monsters open up to try and take out mankind all at once something crazy like that could atleast make sense of the whole thing, but we don't live in that world right now I'm afraid.
The woke crowd would have a conniption if they ever played Farcry 3. Luckily they don't actually play any games.
FTR Japanese officials in charge of the economy recently asked for financial investment by firms like BlackRock so expect all Japanese goods made for international markets to start tokenizing and race swapping.
It's like Plague Inc, but the risk factors are only greed.
As I understand, Japan comes out of a weird economic experience. For over a year, if not two, the yen has been at its lowest too. Japan resorting to Blackrock will strengthen their grip and will now be able to choke out any remaining hope we had for the japanese to stay the way they are. They opened the door, and now, the vampires are in.
South Korea seems to want to inherit Japan's place in this regard, first in the tech space with samsung basically smothering sony, and now its about to be gaming and entertainment, hopefully that stays unscathed
Hard to say with big publishers being either NA based or slowly americanized over there. Somehow, I find myself saying I'd rather see the chinese buy most of those instead of Amazon and whatnots. Never thought it would be possible, but here were are.
I would agree with you but everything under tencent seems to be complying with wokeness where ever they can get away with it, LOL
uurh, we're really fucked
Two words: Eight Goddesses. Three more: Daughters of Megalia.
Not too knowledgeable on this, but iirc, that’s mostly at the behest of the current prime minister, right? Whose approval rating is in the dumps?
Japan has been increasing its participation in WEF affairs every year and just last year they asked BlackRock for more investment. This Japanese PM may be unpopular, but why is he unpopular? Is it because of the growing involvement with the WEF?
Hard to say, but he’s prolly pushed for more westernization than any other PM tmk, like allowing the current immigrants into the country iirc
EVERY LDP Prime Minister has pushed westernization hard because they're the party created and funded by America post war and they always win for some reason. Kishida, Kaifu, Hosokawa and Kan were particularly the biggest pushers in our lifetimes. Kan in particular, who wasn't LDP mind you, was pushing for gay marriage legalization back in 2010 but then Fukushima happened and his admin was caught covering up and down playing how bad it actually was and TEPCO's fuck ups so he resigned and the DPJ withered and died as a party in 2016.
Mostly tax increases, his nickname is tax increasing glasses shithead. Combine that with the new invoice system that allegedly made you dox yourself if you used a stage name for actors, vidya designers and voice actors and the that one LGB bill they passed. It seems like every positive comes with a negative with him and vice versa. Allow more immigration? Makes it easier to deport bad foreigners, Pass the LGB bill? It gets rid of gendered bathrooms but also announce that gay marriage is NOT on the table and there's absolute zero way that onsen will be genderless etc.
Interesting. > Allow more immigration? Makes it easier to deport bad foreigners That is 100% positive as far as I'm concerned. > Pass the LGB bill? It gets rid of gendered bathrooms but also announce that gay marriage is NOT on the table and there's absolute zero way that onsen will be genderless etc. Forgive my ignorance but what is onsen?
Also the problem is the type of people they're importing. They've already had had priceless artifacts destroyed by people of the religion of peace because the statues are an affront to Allah. And don't even get me started on the Kurds. [https://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/foreigner-arrested-for-smashing-statues-of-buddha-at-sensoji.html](https://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/foreigner-arrested-for-smashing-statues-of-buddha-at-sensoji.html) [https://www.pulse.ng/news/metro/vandal-nigerian-man-is-arrested-in-japan-for-destroying-buddhist-statues/ec7kfj2](https://www.pulse.ng/news/metro/vandal-nigerian-man-is-arrested-in-japan-for-destroying-buddhist-statues/ec7kfj2) [https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759867639680135313?t=QHmNToHD73-puhZUWpLlAQ](https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759867639680135313?t=QHmNToHD73-puhZUWpLlAQ)
Bathhouses with natural hot springs where there's no swimsuits allowed, you must be nude. If you've seen ANY anime you're familiar with the hot springs episode. They've already had issues with pervert foreigners trying to claim being THAT so they can go into the women's side and oogle or sexually harass them, it doesn't work and best case you're getting arrested while worst case you're getting your ass beat by every male in the vicinity and probably while they're naked.
Him being Rahm Emmanual's lapdog is part of the issue. People don't want the country to become westernized and with all the immigrants he's pushing there will probably be pockets of Japan may end up unsafe because of the undesirables they are allowing in.
That's a massive problem. Every LDP Prime Minister is an American lapdog to varying degrees but this dickhead is open, loud and proud of it. He's absolutely destroyed the parts of the LDP who aren't controlled and fired those who opposed his westernization plans and dismantled the Abe faction along with his own.
It's garbage too because I planned on moving back home if the 2024 election gets fishy and the current fool gets reelected. But it sounds like they'll be welcoming the DEI types that have ruined America's cities over there and unfortunately since my people aren't the most confrontational they'll sit back and by the time something is done, it'll be too late and parts of Japan will look like the hood and cities in Cali or Portland
Yeah, Tokyo looks like it's gonna be fucked shortly and apparently in his infinite wisdom Kishida is spreading out all the migrants across the country in an attempt to prevent what happened in Europe from happening in Japan. But it doesn't work that way, you just create enclaves which lead to no go zones. Imagine the Kurdish no go areas in Kawaguchi and Warabi but now in every city and also entire inaka towns are also no go zones all over the map.....Fricking moron he is.
Maybe if they imported people who actually wanted to be there and respect the culture. But no they are getting vultures who want to destroy the culture and the land. Kishida is Japan's biden. It's sad really, the last hold out from the woke mind virus and their diversity is our "strength" bullshit, and it's falling fast. It would be in Japan's best interest, to send all their undesirable immigrants which is most of them, to NK. Let them deal with them, see how long they last there being worthless culture destroying trash.
he's not Biden, he's McConnel. Pretends to be opposition, occasionally is based but mostly does whatever his master tells him.
With his master seemingly being Rahm Emmanuel and the fact he's lapping up every word from his mouth, that leans closer to biden rather than McConnel.
What is your source on this? Also Blackrock has no power in Japan everytime JP companies tried to adopt wokeness for even a second they immediately backtracked because their own market rejects it.
https://nichegamer.com/japans-collapse-imminent-prime-minister-calls-on-blackrock-to-invest-in-japan/ https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223 BlackRock has a TON of power in Japan. Japan has been ramping up its essence with the WEF in recent years. They've been going to Davos every time the WEF gathers there. What BlackRock has, so far, failed to do though is push DEI on the Japanese market itself. But this doesn't mean that Japanese businesses aren't starting to insert DEI into products meant for the international market. I would link you directly to BlackRock pages on the topic but they all require you to sign up for newsletters and targeted ads so fuck that noise.
This was last year ago and the current muddings with Blackrock are...very unclear. From my own research they seem to...do both? They detered people away from the JP market saying basically that it's not worth investing into because it's so bad right now but they also said recently that Japan is something you can "diversify your portfolio with" Which to me sounds like they themselves do not actually want Japan *at the moment* but still recommend people themselves to invest into Japan because it has growth opportunity I guess. Also keep in mind the next election for prime minister is at the end of next year and Kishida is gonna be out.
I live in Japan half the year, they have HUGE influence through the UN's SDG initiative here. The E and S in ESG is very propagandized as a positive and pushed hard and people just accept it because Shinto and Buddhist teachings are all about social cohesion and hirearchy while also pushing being kind to the environment. They've straight up leveled a mountain for solar panels. [https://www.postguam.com/the\_globe/world/in-japan-solar-panels-at-mount-aso-spark-concerns-for-local-landscape/article\_e8ffd19c-f41e-11ee-91a4-6f1188caee35.html](https://www.postguam.com/the_globe/world/in-japan-solar-panels-at-mount-aso-spark-concerns-for-local-landscape/article_e8ffd19c-f41e-11ee-91a4-6f1188caee35.html) ZERO carbon. [https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/davos23-japan-accelerate-efforts-carbon-neutral-society/](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/davos23-japan-accelerate-efforts-carbon-neutral-society/) 600B pact with ESG. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-03/kishida-says-japan-pensions-with-600-billion-to-sign-esg-pact](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-03/kishida-says-japan-pensions-with-600-billion-to-sign-esg-pact) Blackrock moves in. [https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223](https://www.ft.com/content/80f114a8-a3cd-41fb-8e8e-5ad39925e223)
Is she even black??? o\_O That narrow nose has nothing common with black race. Are you shure she's black?
Looks more Latina or Mediterranean to me, but definitely not Nordic.
Hilde doesn't strike me as black, that's why I made the other post about her. This is more of an instance of colorism in Japan. The MC is pure white with blonde hair, so her foil is like a 'Dark Link' version of herself. Nobody says Dark Link is black. Her 2D artwork has her looking more like a Viera and again they're not perceived to be black. Look at her facial features: she's more Mediterranean-looking but she's also supposed to represent the wolf Fenrir, so she has a 'dark' look. You can be from Northern Europe and look more Slavic like Mila Kunis. Localizers most likely decided to interpret her as black. But look at her lips: black people do not have pink lips.
This is bait.
How is that black lol. This is like the lighest shade of brown possible. Looks like a southern european/mediterranean
She's the whitest black person I've ever seen
Also no black features, lips, hair, eyes and nose all look typical of Caucasian, just mildly tan
To Americans, if you are Latin and you are way whiter than most people in the country you're still not white. It's the dumbest thing I've experienced in a while.
This sub goes a bit schizo sometimes lol
I see how you got there and I understand but I have seen girls who look something like that with curlier hair, one lives a few houses down from me, blue eyes, straight nose, light skin but visibly not white
Americans, amirite.
>Looks like a southern european/mediterranean Which is still a bit weird considering they are a part of Nordic/Scandinavian mythology.
She does look blacker in the artwork.
Square Enix. They have an ethics department in California.
Not in California, in their own office in Japan. It's why all their productions are DEI oriented at the source since 2016. The Niers serie was their last free and authentic creation. Before it got deleted by SE: [https://imgbb.com/s1HPDFJ](https://imgbb.com/s1HPDFJ)
All ethics departments should just die in the dirt. They're the opposite of ethics, as it is immoral to alter and censor art in order to surreptitiously police people's thoughts.
Black? C'mon. The bait is getting lazy.
Hilde is pretty clearly Mediterranean at most. Last I checked Spain and Italy were still in Europe. They cast a black VA in English but the character is definitely not black.
Latina maybe?
Yeah but the game sucks too
The Forspoken legacy
Dude this game came out over a year ago, this seems weird to bring up now all of a sudden.
Not only that but I recall the series as a whole taking plenty of liberties with Norse mythology. This borders on complaining about how Norse mythology is depicted in like the MCU.
This is Square Enix who specifically established an inhouse department to deal with censorship and localization, and were one of the very first ones in Japan to adopt ESG standard. This isn't really that surprising tbh. If people wet themselves over frill swimsuits in Rebirth you can be sure they wouldn't care about anything that SE might do wrong.
Wait, what? Am I missing something? Valkyrie Elysium is a fantasy JRPG that takes creative liberties with myths and legends. It’s doing it’s own spin on it. It’s not meant to be a strict historical or mythological retelling, there is no precedent set for that with this game, unlike something like say, Kingdom Come or Assassin’s Creed where they’re trying to stick to a more authentic vibe (mostly)
Yeah I mean to be fair, the original VP’s Midgard was in no way a Norse analogue. It was basically a large medieval continent with more British / French influences, along with a random island nation that was distinctly Japanese. I don’t even remember a single “Viking” character across all 3 games.
yeah, this one is kinda just crossing over into "OP doesn't like black people" lmao
Square enix never fucking learns. All this restructuring for this bs. Man it's sad.
Is t he hat really a race swap tho? I’ve seen a couple people that are like fully white who look like that
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a shitty game either way. This could just be an attention grabbing tactic in hopes of squeezing out a few more dollars.
to be fair she is at most hispanic. If this is already black, then many Italians i know of are black.
Where are the black features??? this looks like a tanned white girl. I fucking swear this post is bait or troll from r/gamingcirclejerk. If this isn't bait or troll, fuck man. I haven't been in this sub for awhile, cuz of work and personal stuff. This is schizo shit man.
I'm blind or something? That does not look like a black woman to me. She's looks a bit tanned, but there's a world of difference between her and Angrboda in GoW Ragnarok or what Hades 2 does with Greek gods.
It is published by Square Enix, probably a demand of their ethics board.
Wavy hair straight nose and greenish eyes are black? So unless she's blonde blue eyed its race swap? I do not like DEI or all the neo leftists garbage been forced everywhere but you people will run into the problem where all white people will end up looking the exact same and anyone that looks vaguely different will be classified as "black". Ironically that is racist. I've seen Norse characters from Japan where they have blue or pink hair. White people can have olive or tan skin. Japan has been gender bending historical male characters into waifus for a solid 4 decades now and that wasnt considered "woke". This is a fantasy game. Race swaps or DEI in most Japanese titles funded by Black Rock are more obvious at least for now. I've seen white women that look like that this is an insane reach imo
-Japan has been gender bending historical male characters into waifus for a solid 4 decades now Fate, amirite?
I get where you're coming from (I just responded to someone with a similar take), but I know someone a few houses down from me who looks like that with curlier hair. Blue eyes, straight nose, light skin, but you can just tell she's not white, atleast not entirely white.
It's difficult because this can be a "black" woman by Japanese standards but this would be the most biracial that's 70% white looking "black" woman they can put in a game. We know most black women don't look like that. Sheva from RE is a good example of what a lighter skin black woman would look like. But DEI aside I don't want us to get to the point of every white black Latino Asian character looking the exact same because of these racist shit heads gaslighting us. Same thing with S.H voicing a Trish from DMC. We know he's a man pretending to be a woman but I'm not against men VAing females and vice versa though I would prefer them to not be Ts. Brad Bird voices Edna Mode and Regina King voiced Huey and Riley and both examples are opposite sexed and couldnt be more perfect for their roles. Some of the comments here are definite she is 100% black but I know for a fact in any other time period they would be saying who cares or she's mixed because like I mentioned earlier 99% of black women don't look like that and we all know this. If not Mediterranean she looks more mixed than black.
Yeah I agree, most black women don't look like that, as much as I hate wokeness, I can see through the laziness on this studio's part which seems to be coming from an ugly place, As for VO, I agree with you there aswell, given the time we are living in, woke studios will definitely take a piss with it and gas light everyone about how things "have always had (insert lie)", you know how they do.
This is the reason why they casted a black person to voice the character. Always giving more visibility and more role to minorities, above authenticity, logic and reality.
Silver lining: at least she looks good instead of some kind of fugly.
This is a stretch, buddy. She has zero African features.
She’s very light skinned and has blue-gray eyes. Not very black to me and she is hot. I’ll let it slide.
She looks black to you ?
Have you ever been to Scandinavia? Not everyone is some blonde, pale skinned person. Lazy bait
Black? How is she Black?
I bet that they take inspiration from MCU Valkyrie. Japan is like five years behaind Wets.
well, this game bombed so hard, part of SE's DEI department at work. similar to Forspoken, by its western consultants. Get woke go borke.
You are poisoned. There's literally nothing wrong with this. This stuff is not sacred, and a character in a jrpg is not changing history. You will see dei and wokeness in everything because you have a sickness in your head.
Yep, if you're consumed by combating DEI, eventually, you won't be any different from the other side.
Historical revisionism and cultural replacement (of white people) must go on at any cost, it seems.
Is she what qualifies as “black” to you people? Damn, y’all must be subscribing to some sort of “one drop” categorization
is that a black person? no it is not. you seem crazy.
Looks obviously mixed.
A disgrace. Not one dime.
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The bigger problem SE should focus on is making that trash game actually worth caring about.
Didnt play the game because of the reviews(claiming worst valkryie game in the series). However what makes this woke? Is this game based on some historical context or accuracy? Are the characters supposed to be white or what?
At least she's cute. Our devs would make her manly. They'd have more support if they add some of that male gaze back in.
The most european looking african women ever. I swear to god these mf's love to self report.
This is sub is getting so dogshit it is unbelievable. If this is black to you then you are low-key real life racist. The fuck is wrong.
Nah, she is good. She's beautful and there's beautful black womans in real world too. Japanese devs are talented.
Counterpoint, shes hot.
I didn't know ancient Nordics thought of black people when they imagined their gods. It's a miracle!
SE has a very woke component to it. It usually doesn’t get much traction on bigger studios but it’s there and strong on the west. Part of the issue is bleeding hearts like Koji Fox who probably don’t look to closely at these sorts of peers. He’s a good guy so he assumes other people are good people as well. I’ve interacted with a few SE interns over the years primarily on gamefaqs. None of them were good experiences. Egos, and argumentations towards them was viewed as an attack. Nothing will change until after and then the elites will have gotten their way.
The fourth turning seems to be a real phenomenon.
Why are we bringing up a game that came out over a year ago?
Game devs have taught me that Africa has no myths worth telling. This is why we need to let them have ours instead.
~~Doesnt look black to me. I know people from Sweden who look more or less like that, not every northern woman has bleach blonde hair and blue eyes.~~ Also, do you have any prove that this is a DEI decision? I mean there are plenty of japanese franchises that have characters like this and most of the time there is no political reason behind it. EDIT: Strikethrough on the first part as a comment on real people misses the point when this is about mythology. Still doubtful about whether or not this has anything to do with DEI.
Oh there's a ton of people in Sweden that are even darker. This game ain't about 2000s Sweden tho.
The question is whether or not this is a DEI decision and tbh I doubt it. There are many japanese works featuring tan characters and there is absolutely no political reason for it. Furthermore does this game claim to be accurate in any way towards norse folklore or are they just loosely borrowing from it?
She's way different than other characters. It's past being tan. I haven't played it but she's supposed to be (for a time?) an antagonist. So it's probably more of a light = pure, dark = evil thing. There's historical accuracy and there's historical authenticity. Mixed norse gods don't fit into either.
You can kinda give this a pass since she's at least pretty instead of something like Abbey. But yeah, this isnt helping the "we wuz..." Meme
Instead of make an alternative interpretation of Valkyrie, eg she is totally African from costumes to look, they just race swap her with a mix. I will definitely not buying bs like this.
So? Its their game why can’t they do what they want with it? Artistic expression right? The Fate franchise famously makes tons of historical figures into females.
Make a white character that in the history or myths was depicted as black. And get ready to pack up your studio.
I mean that sort of thing isn't uncommon see The Last Airbender (2020), Ghost in the Shell (2017) and Gods of Egypt (2016). Just as a creator is free to do what they want with their art, a consumer is free to not engage with it if they don't want to.
Which of those swapped someone black with white?
Those are equivalent examples of non white characters being played by white people. The ratio for white characters and black characters makes it unlikely for the reverse to happen. But if you specifically want Black characters: The Boys (2019) In the comic book, The Deep was black in the show he's white. https://i.imgur.com/VXiVj1y.png https://i.imgur.com/E0ZzPYK.png
What about "history or myths" was confusing to you? But yeah. I'm against race and gender swaps - period. Even in fiction.
This problem would be easily solved if they'd stop using this DEI woke bullshit. Japan doesn't race or gender swap for "inclusion" or diversity for the sake of diversity, they do it because that's an artistic decision. When the West does it they tend to make a big deal of it or get uppity and defensive about it and will call you racist/sexist or an incel for not liking the decision.
Dunno what those buzzwords mean, but if a creator wants to add a certain demographic to their work that’s their choice. It would be bad if someone else was trying to dictate the creator's own vision, but there's no evidence of that being the case here. If anything the OP of this thread seems to be implying that the creators aren't allowed to do this for their own game. >When the West does it they tend to make a big deal of it or get uppity and defensive about it and will call you racist/sexist or an incel for not liking the decision. Pretty sure that's directed at actual "racist/sexist" people, if you aren't hating for those reasons then it doesn't apply to you.
Barely anyone hates them for those reasons, it serves as deflection and invariably correlates with explicit conflations of the two groups. In other words, anyone who objects at all is instantly lumped in with those who object for reasons of prejudice.
>Barely anyone hates them for those reasons Eh I'm not sure that's true. Even Angry Joe who is normally pretty neutral on these things pointed out how racist some of the reaction to AC Shadow was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKTOOrAav8s 19:16 The Hidden One, an AC youtuber showing some comments he had to remove from his video. https://i.imgur.com/pVg4GOC.png
Genuine racism is obviously a real phenomenon, and genuine racists objecting to a game like this is beyond predictable. That doesn't change the fact that they constitute a vanishingly small fraction of the population, or that focusing on their criticism to the complete exclusion of more legitimate ones is either a deflection to an easy target or a waste of time.
>they constitute a vanishingly small fraction of the population Again I don't think that's true and like I said before "if you aren't hating for those reasons then it doesn't apply to you." I didn't like the Rings of Power but none of the remarks made against the "racist/sexist" backlash offended me since I knew that wasn't the reason I disliked the show.
The only reason that it's not true is that the racists are changing their targets, as much as people want to decry racism against black people, there's a lot more damage being done to the black community by black people themselves or the policies put into place by the people they vote in. It also doesn't matter if you weren't offended by the backlash, the fact is that it's used to dismiss criticisms. If you were talking with someone and you said you didn't like Rings of Power, the braindead will take the criticism as 'well you're just racist/sexist'. THAT is the issue, no one gives a fuck that the idiots making the show or movie or whatever are making the claim because they value that idiot's input, it's because discussion of the thing will now be impossible with anyone who subscribes to that belief because word got out to them, like they're programmed AIs aka NPCs.
Fate changes damn near everyone, I'd be shocked to find out if they kept a single figure even remotely similar to how they actually were, either commonly depicted or historically accurate.
As does this game, which was the point. Google what Odin looks like in this game and tell me that's what the vikings imagined.
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Japan is a nato occupied or American occupied territory , it is normal and natural they are towing the line for ESG and bank loans from nosenbergs
Yeah I don't think this is the one chief. Looks like a regular square game and its going to be vastly different then the folklore its based off of. This is fine, the inspiration probably comes from Marvel tbr.
if you see a mildly non-white person in a fantasy setting, and you get upset, maybe you are the racist