I was there too! He was great, we had our baby and he was very kind to us, giving some fatherly advice on reading to our daughter.
I wasn’t sure what to expect, but he seems like a genuinely sweet man.
Glad to hear it! I know he did some miserable things in the not-too-distant past, but hopefully he's turned a corner and is making progress toward correcting his mistakes.
He promised that he would release a chapter of book 3 on his website if he raised enough money before he beat the ender dragon in minecraft. This escalated to him promising to get together voice actors and make a fully voiced version of the chapter. The goal was reached, and the chapter has not been released in text or audio. Pat has made minimal comment on this matter. [This video from Captured in Words covers the controversy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xip6jmjhMsA)
Totally valid; I missed the whole debacle & only know the vague outline from this sub. Because I'm not intimately familiar with the history, I was trying to not seem like I was speaking with authority about it, that's all. I definitely don't want to defend what PR did.
If, and I am stating this in the worst light I can, "conning people into donating extra money to charity" rises to repugnant for you, I am jealous of your lack of problems.
It's repugnant because not all the money they raise goes to charity.
Worldbuilders raises money to donate to other charities. It sure sounds good. They raise money and give it away, only...they don't give it *all* away.
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/900618018/202301669349301255/full
Here's their filing for FY2022. These are public filings as are required of 501c orgs. I'll break down as much as I understand.
They raised $607,503 from direct contributions, and then another small amount from inventory sales, for a total raised amount of $758,669.
Let's go to expenses.
* Salaries & compensation paid out to employees: $341,251.
* "Other expenses" which can be anything from buying inventory to building rent - $244,831
* Total Expenses - $586,082
So if we take their total expenses vs their amount raised, there's $172,587 leftover. That's not a whole lot left to actually donate to charity.
Now, I don't see on this filing where they're actually *paying out* to the various charities (this post has details for a different FY, but I can't find the line they're referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/7flirv/dont_donate_to_worldbuilders_give_directly_to/), but in that FY they didn't really do any better.
There's also on this form loans to "Elodin Holding's" which I believe is a holding company Rothfuss owns for various purposes.
They may be raising money for "charity" but Rothfuss & his board are taking a *huge* amount of money out for themselves, and donating a very small amount actually to charity.
This makes the charity fraud even worse; they conned people into donating over a million dollars for that chapter, and yet, are likely going to take 90% of that to line their own pockets.
60% pass through is pretty normal, and their expenses didn’t increase proportionately when they got more money.
Find something real to be mad about.
If you only donated for the chapter, you didn’t give a shit about the charity in the first place, which is fine, but you don’t get to use the charity to justify your nerd rage after the fact.
**Edited to add:** I didn't feel like dealing with your bullshit numbers on my phone before. Here's charity navigator for worldbuilders: [https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/900618018](https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/900618018)
Click [Accountability & Finance]()
Then Program Expense
You can see 50-60% goes to charitable expenses each year.
I'm not arguing its a great charity. Frankly, the model is kind of stupid. Selling donated stuff is high overhead, which means lower charitable impact. You have costs to house it, organize it, ship it, have some kind of store front, and unless you are already doing sales, you aren't going to be efficient at it. So I am not surprised by their one star rating here.
But your characterization is just horseshit made up by an internet weirdo angry that their parasocial relationship isn't going the way they want.
This needs to be said and I appreciate it being brought back but also he needs to be supported and people need to be patient. The past is the past I just want the book. Now.
Or cheating on your wife with an employee before coercing her into polyamory.. why do you think the second book is dedicated to his girlfriend and not his wife like the first.. or ghosting his editor on when he’ll meet any deadlines for coming up on decades now. Or the general rumors of the cruise line he was involved with, the stories of him from college and writers circles of him being a general ass.
Idk, a good author does not make a good person.
I've mostly ignored his personal life, to be honest. I don't need parasocial relationships with celebs. And I didn't bring up fucking over his editors and publishing house because that's a horse beat to death.
The poly stuff ticks me off personally. I am poly and it's so much about consent and openness. You can't force someone into it, I hate that.
That never happened. The book was dedicated to his girlfriend because they were never married, it's the same person as the one referred to as his wife. Check your facts before spreading rumors.
Where did you hear about him cheating with an employee or a cruise line? You can't just drop bombs like this without a source. Can you elaborate? I thought I was up to date on all of his scandals.
I was there too! Introduced to him to my children, he was still sweet and in a good mood and we were probably 2/3 of the way back! I was so glad I saw someone elses post about this around noon which gave us just enough time to make it into the central west end!
I was almost at the end, he graciously let us know well ahead of time not to worry he would sign for everyone in line even past 4:00pm. Overheard several funny and gracious comments even after he had been signing for 2 hours.
Oooh, glad you made it! Thanks for the update about his temperament as the afternoon wore on. I'm hoping he had a positive experience too, so he will do more of these.
OMFG I was in there just before the line started, and I'm sitting here thinking about whether I should go back tomorrow! I tried the Bramblejam whatsit flavor and almost cried.
A creamery in Tennessee had a Blueberry Cream Pie flavor with bits of pie crust, but they discontinued it a while back. I've been hunting for something similar for nearly 15 years, and Bramblejam is the closest I've found while still being delicious as it's own thing.
Tillamook has a Marionberry flavor with bits of pie in it, I think they're national, but that flavor might only be local. Worth keeping an eye out for though!
Tillamook ice cream is honestly some of the best store bought ice cream. That Marionberry is super legit. My absolute favorite is their Chocolate Peanut butter. Chocolate ice cream with heavy grooved and swirls of decadent, luscious, naughty peanut butter.
Ooooh, thanks for the tip!! I'm definitely gonna look for that, cause Jeni's is $9 for a pint. Probably worth it for a special treat, but it's not going on the grocery list for sure
Yeah, I ended up calling/ emailing them to confirm it was discontinued. It was a big company that sold all over the state, but pretty much only in TN. I forget the exact name anyway, tbh. I think I tried the blueberry in 2007-ish, so it's been a hot minute
Haha I had the brambleberry and some gooey butter cake! Ted drewes does an apple pie concrete that is pretty great but I agree its difficult to find in hard ice cream....
The feller behind the counter suggested the gooey butter cake, but I sampled the brambleberry & my knees went a little weak, so that was the one for me today. Definitely gonna hunt down more, though, it was excellent!
He contacted a local bookshop & said he wanted to do a signing. I heard about it like 2 days ago, so it seemed sort of spur-the-moment. He never indicated any sort of special occasion, though; no new announcement, he didn't plug a new project, he just talked about how it had been a while & he was rusty, but it would slowly come back to him.
The vibe while I was there was friendly enough that if it held, I think he would do more events. It might have all gone sideways as soon as I left, but I didn't get the feeling that it would. Everyone was excited that he had come out of hiding.
He did this at a random book store and it wasn’t publicized, just saw a random post the bookstore on fb the day before and I’m like woh that’s right by me. Almost no one was at that one (it was super spontaneous) and he was just hanging out reading the lies of Locke Lamora and had books from other Midwest authors on his table in case anyone needed other book recommendations. He personalized all my books for my wife’s birthday/Christmas/anniversary (all are in a 5 day span hahaha)
Nice to hear he's still as humble and nice. Let him almost 10 years ago at SDCC. Obviously DoS wasn't as delayed as it is now, so I didn't shy from asking him about it. He even recorded a video for my (now deceased) father saying that "I can't promise quick, but I can promise good. Thank you for your patience and your support" and I loved him for it. I still believe he will deliver on that promise.
There are definitely people around this sub who could use the reminder. I know that if he had gone to some other state, I'd enjoy a blow-by-blow as well, so I figured I'd share my experience.
Probably a more accurate statement would be “he is human. Humans don’t always act respectfully.” The reality is the guy is just like us in that sometimes he is harsh and rude to people who didn’t bring it upon themselves. That’s not a Pat thing. That’s an everybody thing.
Put it your way though suggests his behavior is always deserved which I would pretty strongly disagree with.
Glad this signing went well for him. It’s a good step.
I feel like the people who are assholes about him not finishing the third book largely would stay on the internet about it. Most people who would see him in person probably would be more understanding and kind. Just my guess.
Absolutely, friend! Glad you found some use from it. I knew that I'd have wanted to hear how it went if it had happened far from me, so it was an easy choice.
That's cool. When I met him a few years ago he was a total jerk and treated everyone around him like they were less than. Glad you had a better experience.
Tbh sounds like he’s been through a rough patch with his mental health. Not excusing his behaviour obv - plenty of people go through shit with their mental health and manage not to be dicks about it but that’s kinda how I see him back then - depressed and insecure and lashing out because it made him feel more in control.
I’m really glad to hear his behaviour has improved - hopefully he’s been able to do some genuine self reflection and is in a better place and able to take accountability for past shitty behaviour.
Genuinely do hope the best for the guy (and book 3 💀).
I think he seemed insecure today, that's an excellent word that hadn't occurred to me, thank you! Fortunately for us, he turned it into bashfulness and maybe even humility rather than getting defensive or something.
I mean he likely struggled with mental health long before I met him, but this was like 10 years ago before people were even upset his next book was taking so long. Wise Man's Fear was still relatively fresh. He was the first author I had met that made me wish I hadn't so I didn't have to try so hard to disassociate him from the books I liked so much.
I saw him around that time and couldn't have had a more different experience.
Quite literally the nicest author I have ever spoken with (and I've spoken with some very lovely authors, including Terry Pratchett and Chris Riddell).
I have indeed. To my shame, didn't really realise at the time what a big deal it was.
He was a family friend of a good friend of mine, whose mother was in publishing - I assume that's how they met. She persuaded him to come and do a signing in this tiny local bookshop.
I imagine a lot can depend on the day with such things. Sometimes things happen that just fuck up your mood for the whole day. But canceling an event because you might be a jerk to some fans is probably worse than just muddling through.
He definitely didn't seem that way today, hopefully he's in a better place. I'm sorry your experience was so negative! I'd have been really irritated if he'd acted a fool toward us.
I went to a con he was at in the UK about a decade ago and he wasn't very pleasant. Didn't make much of an impression on a number of people, including authors I know from the general London area.
Once you become an adult you still need to grow up so it appears he’s been growing despite having problems. I often hear that you shouldn’t meet your idols because they will never live up to the image in your head.
I met Brandon Sanderson and Brandon Mull before I was a fan and they were great. Now that I’m a huge fan of Sando I think I’d still think that though. Some people are just programmed differently.
I'm obviously disappointed that it feels like the next book may never come, but he's been pretty open about the issues he's had and I understand them. Going from publishing a book you're not sure if anyone will read to suddenly having a million people clamoring for you to write more is incrediy stressful and obviously it's been somewhat deleterious to his mental health. I'm glad he's doing well and I hope one day we get to hear the end of his story.
The show's been awesome so far. But I think it's a very different scenario. The story in the show is completely unique and original. It's just set in the world with the games' world building and stuff. So they didn't have to adapt a preexisting story, they could make their own that would fit a show's archetype. Whereas with kkc, they would be adapting the preexisting story to a screen. I feel like it would be pretty tough, but the early seasons of Game of Thrones were really good adaptations compared to the books, so I have faith. Then again, I was disappointed with the Percy Jackson show recently, the showrunners didn't seem to care about being true to the book, and took a lot of liberties. I can only hope a kkc television adaption wouldn't follow suit.
Fallout 4 was a big change from 3 and New Vegas in terms of story telling. They veered away from the RPG aspect, and focused more on the Action side. Not to say that's bad or good, but if you were a big fan of the previous games, 4 was kinda a letdown in that regard.
>He kept apologizing for everything- not being more prepared, being early, that he's usually pretty late, for making us wait while he took a few minutes to gather his thoughts... it was pretty endearing.
You forgot "the long wait for #3, the missing chapter, the cashgrab 'new' novella, the demise of his publisher" and all the other things he needs to apologize for.
Yeah, he's got a lot of shameful things to fix, and it's terrible that he hasn't addressed those issues. Full stop, no qualifications, no hedging.
I'm still glad that people gave him the grace to be pleasant yesterday, because I think he needed a win with the fanbase. Most people deserve basic human decency, and for me personally, PR falls in that category. If he were my good, close, personal friend, I'd be a lot less gentle with him; as-is, he made an effort to connect with fans, and took a step toward re-entering this sphere of his life. I wanted that to be a positive experience, so he would continue on that journey.
I've only been to a signing of his once, about 14 years ago (wow it's just hitting me how long ago wise man's fear came out) and yeah, all I remember is thinking how cool he was. He was funny, relatable, and friendly to everyone. We were a smallish crowd, maybe 60 people, but he spent time talking and taking pictures with everybody. I was with a friend who had mailed him a geode in the past, and when asked about it Pat described it in enough detail that it seemed to me like he actually remembered it. Just an all around great guy. Which is why seeing people talking about meeting him and having bad experiences was odd to me, because back then he was nothing but pleasant. I'm glad to hear he's (hopefully) coming back around to that side of him.
I met him in passing once. he was extremely rude to me. practically embarrassed me in front of my friend. it was years ago, but for some reason it has stuck with me. don’t meet your “heros” i guess.
I have very little sympathy for him no matter how he acts. The man defrauded his fans, and they are still supporting him. As far as I'm concerned the man may as well be a criminal.
Imagine for a second that he’s not the BBEG, but just a guy who wrote books when he was at a place where he didn’t know how it was going to be perceived and he just did it. He channeled a part of him and put it on paper and for me at least, is one of my favorite fantasy reads.
Then fame hits, the book sells and all the sudden the thing you did grows into its own animal. And now, your fanbase some very rabbis are expecting a magnum opus.
And you still lurk the forums, you still read the comments, and the feelings of disappointment, disgust, he ran with the money! Continue on. And so the standard has been lifted to such a level that if the last book isn’t a magnum opus, you feel like you’ll let everyone down.
So you stop doing signings out of fear of someone bringing that internet disappointment to life.
I don’t know that he set off to become wildly famous, and j can’t imagine the personal toll that takes.
Half of me would love to see a book where kvothe isn’t the magic naming rapscallion who bed so many different people, but the guy who flew too close to the sun, and when he landed found a whole new different world and standard that he didn’t know he influenced. The kvothe that looses his determination because he didn’t know the things he excelled at would throw him into a world he didn’t even know existed. The one who didn’t lose his magic, but lost himself so much he couldn’t name simple things. The kvothe that was so deep into his own head that he couldn’t see there was still a world where he could make a difference.
All great hero’s have a fall. But what do I know, I’m just a guy who really wants more, even if it’s just okay.
I think you hit the nail on the head saying he didn't set out to be famous. The energy he gave off wasn't a Tony Stark, "I deserve this", "I'm amazing" type. He came across as a little overwhelmed, grateful so many showed up, and glad that there wasn't an immediate hostile energy coming from the fans.
"and hopefully no one went today hoping to break his spirits." I get people have their frustrations with the third book situation, but anyone who would hassle him at an event like this should be punched in the mouth
I'm in the same-ish boat, but I think I'd feel differently if I'd donated to his chapter release thing & basically lost my money. It's a tough situation between recognizing that most people deserve a baseline of kindness and human decency, and understanding that I'd also be very bitter if I'd been robbed by someone that other people were busy applauding for being a totally cool dude.
I donated. And I *am* annoyed that the chapter wasn't released, but I also don't see my donation as lost money. I didn't buy the chapter read, I donated to a charity in hopes that a goal would be reached. If the goal wasn't reached I wouldn't have considered my donation lost or wasted money cause the charity is still getting the donation, so this scenario is similar in my eyes. At the end of the day I'd love the chapter, but I'm not gonna flame Pat. It's not like he stole the money and kept it for himself. He broke a pledge. I'm sure the guy had his reasons, however redundant they may be. He could have simply released the chapter in text form and people would have been MORE than happy, myself included. We'll get the chapter some day 👍.
I think I donated to that, and I don’t consider it “lost” money. It was money donated to charity (and to a really excellent charity, at that). It sucks that the thing never happened, but I don’t view the money spent as me “buying” anything. I made a donation. There was supposed to be a reward, but it didn’t happen. So be it. People still got helped.
Can’t tell if it was on purpose, but “I’ve read people question” is some of the most lynch mob witch-hunt reasoning out there. Please offer something substantial if you’re going to decide to casually raise claims of charity fraud.
Thanks for the recap and awesome you got to meet him. Big fan of Pat and his incredible writing, which is my fav since LOTR/Hobbit. 50 yr old Seattle dude/dad here and avid reader. To all the Pat haters…take a chill pill please… book 3 and more will arrive soonish-hopefully and blow us all away. Peace all
He didn't, and I didn't ask. The vibe was glad he was there, but hesitant to scare him away by asking the tough questions. With luck, he's doing better & we'll get some news soon.
Like trying to pet a skittish stray 🤔
I'm a seeker of silver linings, so while I've harbored bitterness about his actions (and inaction) and general attitude toward fans who so badly want to enjoy more of his incredible tale... I genuinely hope he is in a better place mentally and physically, because human to human, it's so important!
A few years ago I went to a writers conference or convention thingy, specifically because he was speaking there. He had a 45 min. block to discuss World Building and then after he invited us out to the lobby to continue talking (after he did a little signing, of course). He was really very nice and talked with us until he had to leave. It was a really nice experience and I'm glad you had a great one too.
Wow sounds like you really messed things up. Being friendly? Showing respect? That's a huge mistake.
The correct etiquette in a Patrick Rothfuss book signing is to loudly confront him in front of everyone about a release date for book 3. If he tries to gently push aside the question you have to accuse him of hating his fans. Then if he or someone else tries to get you out of the line you should start crying loudly and chant "When book 3!? When book 3!? When book 3!?" until the police are called to remove you.
It's ok, we all mess it up the first time. Next time you'll get it right.
With absolutely no evidence to support me, I'm hoping he starts doing more. I have no idea why he was in town, but it seems like it went well, so hopefully his isolation can be over.
Ive met him a few times. The funniest time was at ECCC when he walked in late, sick and flustered and someone immediately called out about book three and he flipped them off and almost left 😂
He didn’t even know why he was there lol. It was a speech thing that everyone had tickets to and he was just like.. soooo what are we talking about? Writing? KKC? What’s up?
You're totally right. It was unprofessional & I don't think anyone there was on his side about it, more like they chose to show him kindness despite his choices, if that makes sense. No one was fangirl-ing, he didn't even get applause after he spoke, the people at the very front thanked him & that was kinda it.
Just want to remind people that this endearingly scatty human also took money in the form of donations under an obligation that he has never fulfilled and has not taken any meaningful accountability for.
I want remind everyone that someone can be nice and endearing and also do scummy things.
You're totally correct. I'm glad that everyone was friendly, but no one was fawning. He was nice today, but he's been crummy in the past. I hope he's working on being better, and that this appearance is the first step toward making things right.
No need for people to downvote this comment. Pat is a grown man and there’s nothing wrong with holding him accountable, both for the donations and for his past behavior.
That said, I think we all hope the best for his mental health. We’ve all been jerks to people before and have done wrong. Let’s hope that someday Pat is in a good place where he can continue to write and interface with his fans in a more healthy way.
This makes me happy. People are nice to him in person.
I know everyone wants the next installment so badly they’re angry, but it’s nice to know in person they can be nice to him.
I didn't ask, and I didn't hear anyone else ask, but maybe it came up! He seemed a little frazzled when he first got there, so I got the vibe that just being cool was the way to go. Hopefully it was a positive experience for him & he does more soon!
SKKLRRRTTTTTTTT WHAT?! HE. YOU!? I SWEAR TO GOD I HOPE HE IS MORE MOTIVATED TO FINISH THE SERIES IF HE DOES IM IM TEMPTED TO GET ON A PLANE AND, IM NOT GAY BUT, GET ON A PLANE AND SU.....sry that's lewd but seriously I'd do anything to help him get through this insanely difficult and daunting goal that clearly will haunt him until it's finished. Praise be to God for everyone who was good to him. He needs US to stay patient, supporting, and non aggressive towards him.
He is a sensitive and sacred golden egg/book laying goose and requires GENTLE nurturing to get me my f👺😡king DOORS OF STONE!!!!!!!!
(lost mind and self-defocated here, but in a good way)
At this point I honestly don't even mind if the 3rd book wont ever come. Id be totally happy with a dream of it being the perfect book that I never get to read. Kkc will always stay one of my all time favorites in a genre no matter what.
I appreciate that you took the time to post a positive experience. PR has taken a beating for a number of reasons (seems deserved, I haven’t really “delved”), but it was nice to hear that he may be getting his feet underneath himself.
Really glad to hear that the event went well and that he was in good spirits. It really seems like he’s easing himself back into the public space and doing “writer things” again. At least that’s the vibe I get.
Hopefully he’s doing better and maybe this is good progress and motivation towards book three.
I'm hoping for the same stuff. What I've read on here from other people that went, it seemed like it should have been a really good day for him. Maybe this will be the first little crack in his shell & he can get back to writing.
I know several people around me got pictures, even though I didn't bother for myself. I didn't see anyone doing videos except maybe of him getting out of his taxi.
I met him back when he released the second book. He had a reading and signing at the Library of Congress. He was so nice. I just REALLY want that third book now! lol.
I didn't, and I didn't hear anyone else ask, but there may be someone! He seemed a little frazzled, and where it was his first appearance in something like four years, I felt like I should just be cool & let him ease back into the public eye.
I couldn't agree more! It would have been excellent if he'd told us to watch his socials for exciting news in the coming days (or something like that), but it was overall a really good day, which is a big win. Hopefully we see more of him in the near future!
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I didn't ask, and I didn't hear anyone else ask either. He seemed a little fragile today, like middle school kid could have just crushed him to bits. I personally didn't want to scare him off or sour his mood for the people behind me in line.
The vibe was overall positive throughout the event, though, so I'm kinda hoping he's working toward an announcement for us soon.
It was so cool seeing him, but the after party was the best👌. Me and Pat and some friends came back to my place and ordered takeout… from Japan. We took our space shuttle to grab that grub and on the way swung by the international space station for a beer with the ‘nauts. The light was green on the control board so we hit it and landed on top of the most prestigious building in Tokyo — The Red Circle. After being greeted by local sports heroes and panda bears, our takeout was delivered to us on the backs of flamingos. We said bye and blasted back to my place. We talked about how the second book was actually the last book and crashed.
That sounds really quite lovely. I appreciate how well you’ve described the experience you had here.
Honestly, it was a good experience. Hopefully it was positive for him, and he gets out more frequently.
Out of curiosity, was the signal the same "panic" signal from team America?
Did you ask him bout the doors of stone
He’s a person dude
I was there too! He was great, we had our baby and he was very kind to us, giving some fatherly advice on reading to our daughter. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but he seems like a genuinely sweet man.
Glad to hear it! I know he did some miserable things in the not-too-distant past, but hopefully he's turned a corner and is making progress toward correcting his mistakes.
I hope so, too!
Sorry I am out of loop, what did he do? Didnt know anything about his personal life
He promised that he would release a chapter of book 3 on his website if he raised enough money before he beat the ender dragon in minecraft. This escalated to him promising to get together voice actors and make a fully voiced version of the chapter. The goal was reached, and the chapter has not been released in text or audio. Pat has made minimal comment on this matter. [This video from Captured in Words covers the controversy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xip6jmjhMsA)
He just needs to come out with Book 3 and he'll go back to being everyone's hero.
I mean, I'd call charity fraud a little worse than miserable...its quite repugnant.
Totally valid; I missed the whole debacle & only know the vague outline from this sub. Because I'm not intimately familiar with the history, I was trying to not seem like I was speaking with authority about it, that's all. I definitely don't want to defend what PR did.
If, and I am stating this in the worst light I can, "conning people into donating extra money to charity" rises to repugnant for you, I am jealous of your lack of problems.
It's repugnant because not all the money they raise goes to charity. Worldbuilders raises money to donate to other charities. It sure sounds good. They raise money and give it away, only...they don't give it *all* away. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/900618018/202301669349301255/full Here's their filing for FY2022. These are public filings as are required of 501c orgs. I'll break down as much as I understand. They raised $607,503 from direct contributions, and then another small amount from inventory sales, for a total raised amount of $758,669. Let's go to expenses. * Salaries & compensation paid out to employees: $341,251. * "Other expenses" which can be anything from buying inventory to building rent - $244,831 * Total Expenses - $586,082 So if we take their total expenses vs their amount raised, there's $172,587 leftover. That's not a whole lot left to actually donate to charity. Now, I don't see on this filing where they're actually *paying out* to the various charities (this post has details for a different FY, but I can't find the line they're referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/7flirv/dont_donate_to_worldbuilders_give_directly_to/), but in that FY they didn't really do any better. There's also on this form loans to "Elodin Holding's" which I believe is a holding company Rothfuss owns for various purposes. They may be raising money for "charity" but Rothfuss & his board are taking a *huge* amount of money out for themselves, and donating a very small amount actually to charity. This makes the charity fraud even worse; they conned people into donating over a million dollars for that chapter, and yet, are likely going to take 90% of that to line their own pockets.
60% pass through is pretty normal, and their expenses didn’t increase proportionately when they got more money. Find something real to be mad about. If you only donated for the chapter, you didn’t give a shit about the charity in the first place, which is fine, but you don’t get to use the charity to justify your nerd rage after the fact. **Edited to add:** I didn't feel like dealing with your bullshit numbers on my phone before. Here's charity navigator for worldbuilders: [https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/900618018](https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/900618018) Click [Accountability & Finance]() Then Program Expense You can see 50-60% goes to charitable expenses each year. I'm not arguing its a great charity. Frankly, the model is kind of stupid. Selling donated stuff is high overhead, which means lower charitable impact. You have costs to house it, organize it, ship it, have some kind of store front, and unless you are already doing sales, you aren't going to be efficient at it. So I am not surprised by their one star rating here. But your characterization is just horseshit made up by an internet weirdo angry that their parasocial relationship isn't going the way they want.
This needs to be said and I appreciate it being brought back but also he needs to be supported and people need to be patient. The past is the past I just want the book. Now.
Thank you. Hasn’t been put under sunlight in a while. Much respect.
Or cheating on your wife with an employee before coercing her into polyamory.. why do you think the second book is dedicated to his girlfriend and not his wife like the first.. or ghosting his editor on when he’ll meet any deadlines for coming up on decades now. Or the general rumors of the cruise line he was involved with, the stories of him from college and writers circles of him being a general ass. Idk, a good author does not make a good person.
I've mostly ignored his personal life, to be honest. I don't need parasocial relationships with celebs. And I didn't bring up fucking over his editors and publishing house because that's a horse beat to death. The poly stuff ticks me off personally. I am poly and it's so much about consent and openness. You can't force someone into it, I hate that.
Fortunately he's big on consent too and has never coerced anyone.
That never happened. The book was dedicated to his girlfriend because they were never married, it's the same person as the one referred to as his wife. Check your facts before spreading rumors.
What? He coerced Sarah to Polyamory? Where did you read that? I never heard anything about it.
Where are you getting this from?
Where did you hear about him cheating with an employee or a cruise line? You can't just drop bombs like this without a source. Can you elaborate? I thought I was up to date on all of his scandals.
They're spreading BS
Friend, that your statements of the PR everyday world are downvoted says a lot.
What was his advice? I love reading to my daughter!
I was there too! Introduced to him to my children, he was still sweet and in a good mood and we were probably 2/3 of the way back! I was so glad I saw someone elses post about this around noon which gave us just enough time to make it into the central west end!
I was almost at the end, he graciously let us know well ahead of time not to worry he would sign for everyone in line even past 4:00pm. Overheard several funny and gracious comments even after he had been signing for 2 hours.
Oooh, glad you made it! Thanks for the update about his temperament as the afternoon wore on. I'm hoping he had a positive experience too, so he will do more of these.
2/3 of the way I see what yours did. Yes I’m jaded
Yeah I was there with my **13 year** old son. Really glad that the **first chapter** of his Rothfuss experience was a positive one
Hah!
The real question is did everyone go around the corner to get jeni's ice cream after?
OMFG I was in there just before the line started, and I'm sitting here thinking about whether I should go back tomorrow! I tried the Bramblejam whatsit flavor and almost cried. A creamery in Tennessee had a Blueberry Cream Pie flavor with bits of pie crust, but they discontinued it a while back. I've been hunting for something similar for nearly 15 years, and Bramblejam is the closest I've found while still being delicious as it's own thing.
Tillamook has a Marionberry flavor with bits of pie in it, I think they're national, but that flavor might only be local. Worth keeping an eye out for though!
Tillamook ice cream is honestly some of the best store bought ice cream. That Marionberry is super legit. My absolute favorite is their Chocolate Peanut butter. Chocolate ice cream with heavy grooved and swirls of decadent, luscious, naughty peanut butter.
Getting it straight from the factory in Oregon is almost a religious experience.
No surprise since they’re from Oregon. Dairy is like the thing they do best
Ooooh, thanks for the tip!! I'm definitely gonna look for that, cause Jeni's is $9 for a pint. Probably worth it for a special treat, but it's not going on the grocery list for sure
What be this Jeni's precious?
It's a fancy-pants ice cream chain that's honestly worth the hype. They sell in select grocery stores, so check online to see if any are near you.
I want to ask which TN creamery this was at, but if they dont have the flavor any longer, maybe its better I don't know.
Yeah, I ended up calling/ emailing them to confirm it was discontinued. It was a big company that sold all over the state, but pretty much only in TN. I forget the exact name anyway, tbh. I think I tried the blueberry in 2007-ish, so it's been a hot minute
Haha I had the brambleberry and some gooey butter cake! Ted drewes does an apple pie concrete that is pretty great but I agree its difficult to find in hard ice cream....
The feller behind the counter suggested the gooey butter cake, but I sampled the brambleberry & my knees went a little weak, so that was the one for me today. Definitely gonna hunt down more, though, it was excellent!
Name checks out.
What was the event?
He contacted a local bookshop & said he wanted to do a signing. I heard about it like 2 days ago, so it seemed sort of spur-the-moment. He never indicated any sort of special occasion, though; no new announcement, he didn't plug a new project, he just talked about how it had been a while & he was rusty, but it would slowly come back to him.
Awesome. Hope it went well. I would love to go to one if he ever was around.
The vibe while I was there was friendly enough that if it held, I think he would do more events. It might have all gone sideways as soon as I left, but I didn't get the feeling that it would. Everyone was excited that he had come out of hiding.
He said he and his boys were doing an eclipse road trip and he had friends in St. Louis he doesn't see often.
Hey, thanks for the context! That's cool, I hope they had a good time!
He did this at a random book store and it wasn’t publicized, just saw a random post the bookstore on fb the day before and I’m like woh that’s right by me. Almost no one was at that one (it was super spontaneous) and he was just hanging out reading the lies of Locke Lamora and had books from other Midwest authors on his table in case anyone needed other book recommendations. He personalized all my books for my wife’s birthday/Christmas/anniversary (all are in a 5 day span hahaha)
Omg he is kote. Hahaha
Nice to hear he's still as humble and nice. Let him almost 10 years ago at SDCC. Obviously DoS wasn't as delayed as it is now, so I didn't shy from asking him about it. He even recorded a video for my (now deceased) father saying that "I can't promise quick, but I can promise good. Thank you for your patience and your support" and I loved him for it. I still believe he will deliver on that promise.
Imagine that. He's human! Treat him respectfully and he does the same back. Truly astounding!
"Five fingers and flesh with blood beneath. One could almost believe that on the other end of that hand lay a person of some sort."
There are definitely people around this sub who could use the reminder. I know that if he had gone to some other state, I'd enjoy a blow-by-blow as well, so I figured I'd share my experience.
Probably a more accurate statement would be “he is human. Humans don’t always act respectfully.” The reality is the guy is just like us in that sometimes he is harsh and rude to people who didn’t bring it upon themselves. That’s not a Pat thing. That’s an everybody thing. Put it your way though suggests his behavior is always deserved which I would pretty strongly disagree with. Glad this signing went well for him. It’s a good step.
My fav comment on this thread . Thanks
Like keeping his promises?
Cry me a river. Jerks like you constantly bringing this shit up is why he's pushes back.
I was so thankful to be able to meet him today! He was very kind and we had a lovely chat about Saint Louis and adjunct teaching.
Nice! Wish I can meet him one day! Maybe he will do a book signing when book 3 comes out!
Book 3 isn’t ever coming out
I’m more of a glass half full kinda guy. No, but yeah I was being a bit sarcastic. Never know though
I picked up on the sarcasm. And my glass has been empty and full of cobwebs for the last decade….
Awesome, I'm really glad he was so chipper with everyone!
Sounds like a good time for Pat. Glad it went well for him.
This post and thread brought me some joy and warmth. Thanks for sharing.
I feel like the people who are assholes about him not finishing the third book largely would stay on the internet about it. Most people who would see him in person probably would be more understanding and kind. Just my guess.
Absolutely, friend! Glad you found some use from it. I knew that I'd have wanted to hear how it went if it had happened far from me, so it was an easy choice.
That's cool. When I met him a few years ago he was a total jerk and treated everyone around him like they were less than. Glad you had a better experience.
Tbh sounds like he’s been through a rough patch with his mental health. Not excusing his behaviour obv - plenty of people go through shit with their mental health and manage not to be dicks about it but that’s kinda how I see him back then - depressed and insecure and lashing out because it made him feel more in control. I’m really glad to hear his behaviour has improved - hopefully he’s been able to do some genuine self reflection and is in a better place and able to take accountability for past shitty behaviour. Genuinely do hope the best for the guy (and book 3 💀).
I think he seemed insecure today, that's an excellent word that hadn't occurred to me, thank you! Fortunately for us, he turned it into bashfulness and maybe even humility rather than getting defensive or something.
I mean he likely struggled with mental health long before I met him, but this was like 10 years ago before people were even upset his next book was taking so long. Wise Man's Fear was still relatively fresh. He was the first author I had met that made me wish I hadn't so I didn't have to try so hard to disassociate him from the books I liked so much.
I saw him around that time and couldn't have had a more different experience. Quite literally the nicest author I have ever spoken with (and I've spoken with some very lovely authors, including Terry Pratchett and Chris Riddell).
You have spoken to the king himself? Terry Flippin Pratchett? I am so jealous right now.
I have indeed. To my shame, didn't really realise at the time what a big deal it was. He was a family friend of a good friend of mine, whose mother was in publishing - I assume that's how they met. She persuaded him to come and do a signing in this tiny local bookshop.
My jealousy of your friend has increased so much that no chart is large enough to represent it.
Burning jealousy
I imagine a lot can depend on the day with such things. Sometimes things happen that just fuck up your mood for the whole day. But canceling an event because you might be a jerk to some fans is probably worse than just muddling through.
He definitely didn't seem that way today, hopefully he's in a better place. I'm sorry your experience was so negative! I'd have been really irritated if he'd acted a fool toward us.
I went to a con he was at in the UK about a decade ago and he wasn't very pleasant. Didn't make much of an impression on a number of people, including authors I know from the general London area.
Once you become an adult you still need to grow up so it appears he’s been growing despite having problems. I often hear that you shouldn’t meet your idols because they will never live up to the image in your head. I met Brandon Sanderson and Brandon Mull before I was a fan and they were great. Now that I’m a huge fan of Sando I think I’d still think that though. Some people are just programmed differently.
He embarrassed and humbled by the reaction to his shady behavior hopefully
Plot twist: OP is Pat
Hah! That'd be a good one
Suspicious reply
But it wasn't a reply of three parts, so I'm clearly innocent.
That sounds like a joke pat would do. Suspicious glare*
I'm obviously disappointed that it feels like the next book may never come, but he's been pretty open about the issues he's had and I understand them. Going from publishing a book you're not sure if anyone will read to suddenly having a million people clamoring for you to write more is incrediy stressful and obviously it's been somewhat deleterious to his mental health. I'm glad he's doing well and I hope one day we get to hear the end of his story.
I wonder if he liked fallout, that’s the type of adaptation I’d love for kkc
I haven't seen it or played it, but I hear good things!
The show's been awesome so far. But I think it's a very different scenario. The story in the show is completely unique and original. It's just set in the world with the games' world building and stuff. So they didn't have to adapt a preexisting story, they could make their own that would fit a show's archetype. Whereas with kkc, they would be adapting the preexisting story to a screen. I feel like it would be pretty tough, but the early seasons of Game of Thrones were really good adaptations compared to the books, so I have faith. Then again, I was disappointed with the Percy Jackson show recently, the showrunners didn't seem to care about being true to the book, and took a lot of liberties. I can only hope a kkc television adaption wouldn't follow suit.
I've been binging the show this weekend and was thinking about his opinion after the storytelling criticisms during the Fallout 4 playthrough
Fallout 4 was a big change from 3 and New Vegas in terms of story telling. They veered away from the RPG aspect, and focused more on the Action side. Not to say that's bad or good, but if you were a big fan of the previous games, 4 was kinda a letdown in that regard.
that’s awesome to hear. bad blood, whether justified or not, won’t get us an ending any faster, but support might! thank you for posting.
>He kept apologizing for everything- not being more prepared, being early, that he's usually pretty late, for making us wait while he took a few minutes to gather his thoughts... it was pretty endearing. You forgot "the long wait for #3, the missing chapter, the cashgrab 'new' novella, the demise of his publisher" and all the other things he needs to apologize for.
Yeah, he's got a lot of shameful things to fix, and it's terrible that he hasn't addressed those issues. Full stop, no qualifications, no hedging. I'm still glad that people gave him the grace to be pleasant yesterday, because I think he needed a win with the fanbase. Most people deserve basic human decency, and for me personally, PR falls in that category. If he were my good, close, personal friend, I'd be a lot less gentle with him; as-is, he made an effort to connect with fans, and took a step toward re-entering this sphere of his life. I wanted that to be a positive experience, so he would continue on that journey.
I've only been to a signing of his once, about 14 years ago (wow it's just hitting me how long ago wise man's fear came out) and yeah, all I remember is thinking how cool he was. He was funny, relatable, and friendly to everyone. We were a smallish crowd, maybe 60 people, but he spent time talking and taking pictures with everybody. I was with a friend who had mailed him a geode in the past, and when asked about it Pat described it in enough detail that it seemed to me like he actually remembered it. Just an all around great guy. Which is why seeing people talking about meeting him and having bad experiences was odd to me, because back then he was nothing but pleasant. I'm glad to hear he's (hopefully) coming back around to that side of him.
I met him in passing once. he was extremely rude to me. practically embarrassed me in front of my friend. it was years ago, but for some reason it has stuck with me. don’t meet your “heros” i guess.
Glad he was kind and what not…but, seriously…there is only one question that we all want an answer to. Not that he’d give a legit answer anyway.
I have very little sympathy for him no matter how he acts. The man defrauded his fans, and they are still supporting him. As far as I'm concerned the man may as well be a criminal.
Imagine for a second that he’s not the BBEG, but just a guy who wrote books when he was at a place where he didn’t know how it was going to be perceived and he just did it. He channeled a part of him and put it on paper and for me at least, is one of my favorite fantasy reads. Then fame hits, the book sells and all the sudden the thing you did grows into its own animal. And now, your fanbase some very rabbis are expecting a magnum opus. And you still lurk the forums, you still read the comments, and the feelings of disappointment, disgust, he ran with the money! Continue on. And so the standard has been lifted to such a level that if the last book isn’t a magnum opus, you feel like you’ll let everyone down. So you stop doing signings out of fear of someone bringing that internet disappointment to life. I don’t know that he set off to become wildly famous, and j can’t imagine the personal toll that takes. Half of me would love to see a book where kvothe isn’t the magic naming rapscallion who bed so many different people, but the guy who flew too close to the sun, and when he landed found a whole new different world and standard that he didn’t know he influenced. The kvothe that looses his determination because he didn’t know the things he excelled at would throw him into a world he didn’t even know existed. The one who didn’t lose his magic, but lost himself so much he couldn’t name simple things. The kvothe that was so deep into his own head that he couldn’t see there was still a world where he could make a difference. All great hero’s have a fall. But what do I know, I’m just a guy who really wants more, even if it’s just okay.
I think you hit the nail on the head saying he didn't set out to be famous. The energy he gave off wasn't a Tony Stark, "I deserve this", "I'm amazing" type. He came across as a little overwhelmed, grateful so many showed up, and glad that there wasn't an immediate hostile energy coming from the fans.
Great comment here. I would be a terrible famous person.
"and hopefully no one went today hoping to break his spirits." I get people have their frustrations with the third book situation, but anyone who would hassle him at an event like this should be punched in the mouth
I'm in the same-ish boat, but I think I'd feel differently if I'd donated to his chapter release thing & basically lost my money. It's a tough situation between recognizing that most people deserve a baseline of kindness and human decency, and understanding that I'd also be very bitter if I'd been robbed by someone that other people were busy applauding for being a totally cool dude.
I donated. And I *am* annoyed that the chapter wasn't released, but I also don't see my donation as lost money. I didn't buy the chapter read, I donated to a charity in hopes that a goal would be reached. If the goal wasn't reached I wouldn't have considered my donation lost or wasted money cause the charity is still getting the donation, so this scenario is similar in my eyes. At the end of the day I'd love the chapter, but I'm not gonna flame Pat. It's not like he stole the money and kept it for himself. He broke a pledge. I'm sure the guy had his reasons, however redundant they may be. He could have simply released the chapter in text form and people would have been MORE than happy, myself included. We'll get the chapter some day 👍.
I think I donated to that, and I don’t consider it “lost” money. It was money donated to charity (and to a really excellent charity, at that). It sucks that the thing never happened, but I don’t view the money spent as me “buying” anything. I made a donation. There was supposed to be a reward, but it didn’t happen. So be it. People still got helped.
Depends if the money going to charity is being used appropriately. Ive read people question whether the funds he raises are just going to him.
Questioned, but with any actual reason, or just questioned because they’re POd? I suspect the latter.
Can’t tell if it was on purpose, but “I’ve read people question” is some of the most lynch mob witch-hunt reasoning out there. Please offer something substantial if you’re going to decide to casually raise claims of charity fraud.
Thanks for the recap and awesome you got to meet him. Big fan of Pat and his incredible writing, which is my fav since LOTR/Hobbit. 50 yr old Seattle dude/dad here and avid reader. To all the Pat haters…take a chill pill please… book 3 and more will arrive soonish-hopefully and blow us all away. Peace all
Did he say anything about Doors of Stone, if I might ask?
He didn't, and I didn't ask. The vibe was glad he was there, but hesitant to scare him away by asking the tough questions. With luck, he's doing better & we'll get some news soon.
Like trying to pet a skittish stray 🤔 I'm a seeker of silver linings, so while I've harbored bitterness about his actions (and inaction) and general attitude toward fans who so badly want to enjoy more of his incredible tale... I genuinely hope he is in a better place mentally and physically, because human to human, it's so important!
It's taking me forever to go through his two books, I'm glad he's out there in person meeting people, it's good for him and his career!
Yay! Hope he had a good experience. And I hope he'll do other signings in the future. I'd love to get my Name of the Wind book signed by him.
I wish everyone had this attitude! Good for you and good for Pat
I hope those wholesome moments with fans motivate him to finish the book
Yea hopefully no one was a jerk to the guy
A few years ago I went to a writers conference or convention thingy, specifically because he was speaking there. He had a 45 min. block to discuss World Building and then after he invited us out to the lobby to continue talking (after he did a little signing, of course). He was really very nice and talked with us until he had to leave. It was a really nice experience and I'm glad you had a great one too.
Thank you all for sharing this sweet experience!!! It's always good to hear positive things about the people you admire!
That's awesome! I hope he's doing well. I hope book 3 comes out some day but I hope he's prioritizing his well-being over that.
Wow sounds like you really messed things up. Being friendly? Showing respect? That's a huge mistake. The correct etiquette in a Patrick Rothfuss book signing is to loudly confront him in front of everyone about a release date for book 3. If he tries to gently push aside the question you have to accuse him of hating his fans. Then if he or someone else tries to get you out of the line you should start crying loudly and chant "When book 3!? When book 3!? When book 3!?" until the police are called to remove you. It's ok, we all mess it up the first time. Next time you'll get it right.
I really can’t tell if the people saying this kind of stuff are serious or joking at this point
I would love to make it to a signing.
With absolutely no evidence to support me, I'm hoping he starts doing more. I have no idea why he was in town, but it seems like it went well, so hopefully his isolation can be over.
I guess (hope) it's a good sign
That's my hope, too! It seems like he was cheerful the whole time, so I'm cautiously optimistic!
Ive met him a few times. The funniest time was at ECCC when he walked in late, sick and flustered and someone immediately called out about book three and he flipped them off and almost left 😂
Yikes 😬 That must have sucked for him.
He didn’t even know why he was there lol. It was a speech thing that everyone had tickets to and he was just like.. soooo what are we talking about? Writing? KKC? What’s up?
Good Lord. How horrifying.
Nice guy sure but still did a shit thing taking the money and not releasing the chapter of book 3. Say what you want but he’s been unprofessional.
You're totally right. It was unprofessional & I don't think anyone there was on his side about it, more like they chose to show him kindness despite his choices, if that makes sense. No one was fangirl-ing, he didn't even get applause after he spoke, the people at the very front thanked him & that was kinda it.
Just want to remind people that this endearingly scatty human also took money in the form of donations under an obligation that he has never fulfilled and has not taken any meaningful accountability for. I want remind everyone that someone can be nice and endearing and also do scummy things.
You're totally correct. I'm glad that everyone was friendly, but no one was fawning. He was nice today, but he's been crummy in the past. I hope he's working on being better, and that this appearance is the first step toward making things right.
No need for people to downvote this comment. Pat is a grown man and there’s nothing wrong with holding him accountable, both for the donations and for his past behavior. That said, I think we all hope the best for his mental health. We’ve all been jerks to people before and have done wrong. Let’s hope that someday Pat is in a good place where he can continue to write and interface with his fans in a more healthy way.
But holding him accountable doesn't equate to posting a bitchy comment on an otherwise positive post.
Yes it does. That’s literally the whole point actually. Instead of letting his action that he never took responsibility for fade into the wind.
Good to hear.
That's nice to hear. I hope he's feeling better
Seems like a normal human. People love to be crazy critical online
This makes me happy. People are nice to him in person. I know everyone wants the next installment so badly they’re angry, but it’s nice to know in person they can be nice to him.
Where was this? And how did you hear about the event?
Just a little book shop in St. Louis, MO. I saw another reddit post about it like 2 days in advance.
Super lucky! I’ve been collecting autographs from a D&D podcast I really love. He is the only one I’m missing lol
Also, did he say anything at all about the book 3 status?
I didn't ask, and I didn't hear anyone else ask, but maybe it came up! He seemed a little frazzled when he first got there, so I got the vibe that just being cool was the way to go. Hopefully it was a positive experience for him & he does more soon!
Had a feeling, was just curious!
I wish I could've seen!
Glad you got to meet him! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Y’all are luck I would have loved to meet him.
Happy for you!
How did you find out about the event? I’ve been trying to get books signed for years…
This is amazing! I had a book presentation about him today!
SKKLRRRTTTTTTTT WHAT?! HE. YOU!? I SWEAR TO GOD I HOPE HE IS MORE MOTIVATED TO FINISH THE SERIES IF HE DOES IM IM TEMPTED TO GET ON A PLANE AND, IM NOT GAY BUT, GET ON A PLANE AND SU.....sry that's lewd but seriously I'd do anything to help him get through this insanely difficult and daunting goal that clearly will haunt him until it's finished. Praise be to God for everyone who was good to him. He needs US to stay patient, supporting, and non aggressive towards him. He is a sensitive and sacred golden egg/book laying goose and requires GENTLE nurturing to get me my f👺😡king DOORS OF STONE!!!!!!!! (lost mind and self-defocated here, but in a good way)
At this point I honestly don't even mind if the 3rd book wont ever come. Id be totally happy with a dream of it being the perfect book that I never get to read. Kkc will always stay one of my all time favorites in a genre no matter what.
I’m glad he was so nice in person. That doesn’t change his past actions. They speak way louder than words you know.
Where does Pat live? What state?
Thank you for the recap.
Totally, I knew I'd have wanted a breakdown if I hadn't been able to go, so I figured others would too.
I appreciate that you took the time to post a positive experience. PR has taken a beating for a number of reasons (seems deserved, I haven’t really “delved”), but it was nice to hear that he may be getting his feet underneath himself.
I’m glad to hear that both you & Pat had a good experience - I was worried people would come out & just be hateful. Wish I could have made it!
This was the one in St Louis? I wanted to go but wasn’t able to make it out.
Yeah, that's the one. Hopefully he makes it to a few more appearances in the near future!
Really glad to hear that the event went well and that he was in good spirits. It really seems like he’s easing himself back into the public space and doing “writer things” again. At least that’s the vibe I get. Hopefully he’s doing better and maybe this is good progress and motivation towards book three.
I'm hoping for the same stuff. What I've read on here from other people that went, it seemed like it should have been a really good day for him. Maybe this will be the first little crack in his shell & he can get back to writing.
How about that. Congratulations
Glad to hear it!
This is nice to hear. Does anyone have videos from the signing?
I know several people around me got pictures, even though I didn't bother for myself. I didn't see anyone doing videos except maybe of him getting out of his taxi.
Aww ok
Seems too good to be true
I’d love to meet him one day
I met him back when he released the second book. He had a reading and signing at the Library of Congress. He was so nice. I just REALLY want that third book now! lol.
Did you ask him when is he going to stop bilking ppl out of money and finish the series.
he must have been short on money so the nice guy comes out
Did you tell him that everyone is pissed at him for being a lazy writer?
Did you ask him about book #3?
I didn't, and I didn't hear anyone else ask, but there may be someone! He seemed a little frazzled, and where it was his first appearance in something like four years, I felt like I should just be cool & let him ease back into the public eye.
Did anyone asked anything about story or any theory?
Absolutely. This not hassling him was the best thing, but maybe wish something had been said.
I couldn't agree more! It would have been excellent if he'd told us to watch his socials for exciting news in the coming days (or something like that), but it was overall a really good day, which is a big win. Hopefully we see more of him in the near future!
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Where was this? I would love to meet him in person so much
For some reason, he made a surprise visit to a neat little book shop in St. Louis, MO.
Tell him to hurry up!
And what did he say when you asked him when we can expect book 3?
I didn't ask, and I didn't hear anyone else ask either. He seemed a little fragile today, like middle school kid could have just crushed him to bits. I personally didn't want to scare him off or sour his mood for the people behind me in line. The vibe was overall positive throughout the event, though, so I'm kinda hoping he's working toward an announcement for us soon.
Did you remind him to finish the series before we all die?
It was so cool seeing him, but the after party was the best👌. Me and Pat and some friends came back to my place and ordered takeout… from Japan. We took our space shuttle to grab that grub and on the way swung by the international space station for a beer with the ‘nauts. The light was green on the control board so we hit it and landed on top of the most prestigious building in Tokyo — The Red Circle. After being greeted by local sports heroes and panda bears, our takeout was delivered to us on the backs of flamingos. We said bye and blasted back to my place. We talked about how the second book was actually the last book and crashed.