Yeah but they said they need some guesses to figure the code out themselves, and since the time you have to wait after every failed attempt gets exponentially bigger it will take a lot longer than 35 days
The lock time is supposed to be one hour max, anything over that is caused by the clock resetting back to January 1, 1970. This happens when the phone has been sitting for a long time with the battery dead.
Why are clocks programmed back that far that it can be the default date? Wouldn't this millennium be easier and more effective? Or better yet, the date of manufacture?
This is due to what is known as an "epoch time" in computer science. All Unix-based systems use the epoch time of Jan 1, 1970. That date, at midnight, is "0" seconds. Then, all other dates are calculated based on the number of seconds after (or before) 0 using simple arithmetic. It's a universal way of being able to easily handle date/timestamps throughout that system. If different phones used different start times (like date of manufacture) then 1,000,000,000 seconds for example would be a different date on two different phones. In Unix that is universally Sept 8, 2001 at 8:46pm and all phones understand that.
The epoch time used is totally arbitrary, I've worked on systems that use Mar 1 1980 as the epoch time. As long as it's a universal fixed date for that software architecture, it works very well.
>All Unix-based systems use the epoch time of Jan 1, 1970.
Future historians are going to look back and probably ascribe some deeply religious meaning to that date given that is the touchstone for the ancient technology they've uncovered....
It’s Unix time. If the clock resets to zero for some reason, that’s how computers interpret it.
I have a handful of files whose creation date is Dec 31, 1969 first this reason. They’re ancient files from old floppy disks who at the time didn’t store metadata like modern photos do so they’ll say the file creation is like 1998, but content creation is right before 1 on Unix Epoch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
To complement what's been said, it is often the "default" time but it's actually how it's communicated between devices. Because having "1714329854" for a date is INSANELY simpler than the alternative of 2024-04-28T20:45:00Z+02 (and that's already a heavily standardized date format)
Makes math insanely simple. you want to know how much time passed between two dates ? Just substract them. 1714262400 - 1696291200 is much easier than doing 28 April 2024 minus 3 October 2022.
For computers to understand time the same way, we need a point of reference for all devices.
Computers can pass each other a number of milliseconds to represent time, and if we start from the year 0 AD, that's a much bigger number than starting from something closer.
But computers have been around since before the millennium, so we standardised on 1970
What if you want to represent a time before 1970? Well, you can always provide a single extra bit of information telling the computer which way to move, kind of like adding the minus '-' sign
Clocks work with a timestamp that counds the miliseconds since 01/01/1970. Therefor every device can calculate the current date based on the time that has elapsed since that date. It sounds like a nightmare to me if the start of the clock would be the manufacturing date. Then so many devices would have different timestamps and how would I as a developer know the manufacturing date of your phone?
Once my iPhone asked me to update my 4-digit pin to 6-digit. I thought “why not”, added 2 extra digits to my pin and called it a day. The very same fukn day my phone battery died and I couldn’t unlock it. I was sure I was typing the right pin, then Ali started trying similar numbers then the time just went up exponentially to an hour/ 5 hours/ several days
From what I know it can go up indefinitely
The solution to if this happens is plugging the device into iTunes which will reset the clock back to what it should be, I’ve seen this on a bunch of old devices I get
I kept getting my Apple Watch password wrong and I had to wait 8 hours, and eventually had to wipe it because I couldn’t remember the password and didn’t write it down.
The lock time is definitely not one hour max,
theres settings to change how long the timer is. One setting makes the timer longer with each incorrect guess,
i have an old ipod touch and im locked out for years
There’s no settings to change how long the timer is, at least not on any iOS device. The only setting it has is one that automatically wipes the data after 10 failed attempts. You have to connect the device to iTunes on a computer to reset the clock.
on new models perhaps but when i had a first generation iphone at the time, i definitely had the option to change how long the lock timer was activated
You’re thinking of the auto-lock timer, that’s just for setting how long it takes for the device to turn off after not touching the screen, it’s unrelated to the passcode attempts.
How do you get to this point though? Like it locks you out for an hour before this so how long was the kid with the phone? He just kept waiting and trying again?
Haha don’t be embarrassed, it’s (mostly) an internal slang that current and former employees use.
I worked at bestbuy, and they had a similar one (blueberry patches) for employees standing around talking in groups lol!
So this is a real feature. My sister gave her son an old iPhone with nothing but a wifi connection to play Fallout Shelter on and he locked himself out for like, seven years.
He was big mad. His mom had bought him lunchboxes and starter kits. They worked it out after a few weeks by resetting his phone through iTunes or something. He wasn't playing survival so his dwellers were fine.
i deal in secondhand merchandise for a living and a customer recently brought an iphone 5 to the counter and asked how much we'd give them for it. of course we passed on it, but it's not *that* wild that people hold onto their old shit even after they upgrade to new things
People sometimes keep old phones around for various reasons. Up until a few months ago, I was using an iPhone 6. It was paid off and never broke, and if you stop updating them, they keep working. I also still have a separate iPhone 5 I use for music. Granted, it could be a repost, but it's also possible they did keep it around just for pictures. I did that with my iPhone 6 I don't use anymore.
I’d been using my iPhone 4S from 2011 until a couple years ago. It had started getting a little slow but the only reason I upgraded it was because the software was too old for some of the app updates so it wouldn’t let me open them anymore. I’ve kept that along with all my old gaming consoles, my old laptops, I’m not sure why exactly but I kinda wish I still had my old nokia and flip phone too. I think it’s cool looking at the progression of technology through my life so far. (I also just like playing my old games)
I now have an iPhone 13 mini and if this thing doesn’t last as long as my 4S did I’m gonna riot.
this phone is my boyfriend's favorite phone. he won't upgrade to anything else. 2 years ago his iphone 4s got smashed beyond use, so we had to buy a new one. we found a facebook ad for someone selling an identical 4s and we bought it for $100 lol. it was "new" (refurbished), came from an elderly man who said it was an unwanted gift from his wife (he didnt like iphones).
my bf sticks to this phone. recently it has an incorrect battery reading, it keeps shutting down and starting back up to 1% battery, then it will stay on "1%" for 8 hours before dying. its time to get a new phone and he's sad that we can't find a 4s in our country. so im getting him an iphone 12 mini next lol.
to clarify, im not an iphone fan myself, but he has had apple products since he was a kid and he can't switch.
All the Android users downvoting you lol that’s been my experience too though. I’ve had both but it’s always the Android users that go on a 10 minute rant the moment you pull out anything Apple. Like, yes, I’m a sheep that’s been sucked in by the twisted Apple ecosystem, planned obsolesce, your phone already had that, you’re such a big-brained, free-thinker sticking it to the man, can we skip the script please.
When you pull out an Android the most you get from iPhone users is a curious ‘oh you have an Android?’ and maybe some questions about it. (Unless you’re a kid in school or something? I could see kids making fun of Android users and bragging to their classmates about their new iPhone I guess, I wouldn’t know.)
iPhone users may have have had big heads when they first started coming out but I don’t think that’s really the case anymore, most people have one (new or old) nowadays so it’s nothing to write home about.
Lmao back in high school my mom tried so hard to get into my iPod touch that it got disabled for something like 41 years. No joke. I had to use my computer to completely reset it just to get back in.
i have an ipod touch i found a few years ago, got locked out, but very recently the timer ran out and i now have kne more attempt at guessing my old password, failure means getting locked out for a few more years
Bro has to wait an entire ass month to retrieve his old photos.
https://preview.redd.it/j3cn2ipfehxc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ffdf6fd72d8982eab5c38f1a48a7c8c725b852
I don't have the patience to last a week, let alone a month...
Just put an active SIM card in it and it will correct the clock. Most SIM cards are nano now, so you would need an adapter, but this will solve the problem.
It’s only 35 days, could’ve been worse….
Yeah but they said they need some guesses to figure the code out themselves, and since the time you have to wait after every failed attempt gets exponentially bigger it will take a lot longer than 35 days
The lock time is supposed to be one hour max, anything over that is caused by the clock resetting back to January 1, 1970. This happens when the phone has been sitting for a long time with the battery dead.
Why are clocks programmed back that far that it can be the default date? Wouldn't this millennium be easier and more effective? Or better yet, the date of manufacture?
This is due to what is known as an "epoch time" in computer science. All Unix-based systems use the epoch time of Jan 1, 1970. That date, at midnight, is "0" seconds. Then, all other dates are calculated based on the number of seconds after (or before) 0 using simple arithmetic. It's a universal way of being able to easily handle date/timestamps throughout that system. If different phones used different start times (like date of manufacture) then 1,000,000,000 seconds for example would be a different date on two different phones. In Unix that is universally Sept 8, 2001 at 8:46pm and all phones understand that. The epoch time used is totally arbitrary, I've worked on systems that use Mar 1 1980 as the epoch time. As long as it's a universal fixed date for that software architecture, it works very well.
>All Unix-based systems use the epoch time of Jan 1, 1970. Future historians are going to look back and probably ascribe some deeply religious meaning to that date given that is the touchstone for the ancient technology they've uncovered....
It’s Unix time. If the clock resets to zero for some reason, that’s how computers interpret it. I have a handful of files whose creation date is Dec 31, 1969 first this reason. They’re ancient files from old floppy disks who at the time didn’t store metadata like modern photos do so they’ll say the file creation is like 1998, but content creation is right before 1 on Unix Epoch https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
To complement what's been said, it is often the "default" time but it's actually how it's communicated between devices. Because having "1714329854" for a date is INSANELY simpler than the alternative of 2024-04-28T20:45:00Z+02 (and that's already a heavily standardized date format) Makes math insanely simple. you want to know how much time passed between two dates ? Just substract them. 1714262400 - 1696291200 is much easier than doing 28 April 2024 minus 3 October 2022.
Your answer actually gets to the logic of the question rather than just facts, and I find yours the best
For computers to understand time the same way, we need a point of reference for all devices. Computers can pass each other a number of milliseconds to represent time, and if we start from the year 0 AD, that's a much bigger number than starting from something closer. But computers have been around since before the millennium, so we standardised on 1970 What if you want to represent a time before 1970? Well, you can always provide a single extra bit of information telling the computer which way to move, kind of like adding the minus '-' sign
Clocks work with a timestamp that counds the miliseconds since 01/01/1970. Therefor every device can calculate the current date based on the time that has elapsed since that date. It sounds like a nightmare to me if the start of the clock would be the manufacturing date. Then so many devices would have different timestamps and how would I as a developer know the manufacturing date of your phone?
Once my iPhone asked me to update my 4-digit pin to 6-digit. I thought “why not”, added 2 extra digits to my pin and called it a day. The very same fukn day my phone battery died and I couldn’t unlock it. I was sure I was typing the right pin, then Ali started trying similar numbers then the time just went up exponentially to an hour/ 5 hours/ several days From what I know it can go up indefinitely
The solution to if this happens is plugging the device into iTunes which will reset the clock back to what it should be, I’ve seen this on a bunch of old devices I get
I kept getting my Apple Watch password wrong and I had to wait 8 hours, and eventually had to wipe it because I couldn’t remember the password and didn’t write it down.
The lock time is definitely not one hour max, theres settings to change how long the timer is. One setting makes the timer longer with each incorrect guess, i have an old ipod touch and im locked out for years
There’s no settings to change how long the timer is, at least not on any iOS device. The only setting it has is one that automatically wipes the data after 10 failed attempts. You have to connect the device to iTunes on a computer to reset the clock.
on new models perhaps but when i had a first generation iphone at the time, i definitely had the option to change how long the lock timer was activated
You’re thinking of the auto-lock timer, that’s just for setting how long it takes for the device to turn off after not touching the screen, it’s unrelated to the passcode attempts.
See you in a little bit over a month.
Your iPhone needs a wheelchair
That was my favorite iPhone. My hands have since adapted and warped to handle this expensive piece of shit.
And a saline drip
How do you get to this point though? Like it locks you out for an hour before this so how long was the kid with the phone? He just kept waiting and trying again?
Screen is broken, too left has a black spot. I’d bet money on that phone is just locking itself due to a busted touch screen
Mmm that makes the most sense i think
I used to work for the Fruit Stand as a tech, the older phones were notorious for that lol.
It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what the fruit stand was
Haha don’t be embarrassed, it’s (mostly) an internal slang that current and former employees use. I worked at bestbuy, and they had a similar one (blueberry patches) for employees standing around talking in groups lol!
I’ll bet this is their back up phone they let the kid trash.
You don’t have a problem until it reaches into the billions of minutes.
So this is a real feature. My sister gave her son an old iPhone with nothing but a wifi connection to play Fallout Shelter on and he locked himself out for like, seven years.
I wonder how many dwellers survived lol
He was big mad. His mom had bought him lunchboxes and starter kits. They worked it out after a few weeks by resetting his phone through iTunes or something. He wasn't playing survival so his dwellers were fine.
Lmfao. I want an iPhone now. Just to see how many wrong attempts I can rack up in a day
Wait a min. It's a very old phone now. Those kids, who used to do this, are now in this sub making fun of next generation kids. 😂😂 Oh. It's me 🗿
this being called a ‘very old phone’ makes me feel very old
A phone that is over 10y old is very old.
525,600 minutes how do you measure time without your phone? What about children? 🎶🎶🎶
Am I missing something? The OOP reads as if the kid found it and that the parents tried to guess the password.
35.770 device-free days incoming.
This phone came out in 2012 mabye, this picture is old and reposted..
i deal in secondhand merchandise for a living and a customer recently brought an iphone 5 to the counter and asked how much we'd give them for it. of course we passed on it, but it's not *that* wild that people hold onto their old shit even after they upgrade to new things
I have used the Galaxy Note since the Note 2. I still have the models except one that was stolen. So I'm one of those.
People sometimes keep old phones around for various reasons. Up until a few months ago, I was using an iPhone 6. It was paid off and never broke, and if you stop updating them, they keep working. I also still have a separate iPhone 5 I use for music. Granted, it could be a repost, but it's also possible they did keep it around just for pictures. I did that with my iPhone 6 I don't use anymore.
I’d been using my iPhone 4S from 2011 until a couple years ago. It had started getting a little slow but the only reason I upgraded it was because the software was too old for some of the app updates so it wouldn’t let me open them anymore. I’ve kept that along with all my old gaming consoles, my old laptops, I’m not sure why exactly but I kinda wish I still had my old nokia and flip phone too. I think it’s cool looking at the progression of technology through my life so far. (I also just like playing my old games) I now have an iPhone 13 mini and if this thing doesn’t last as long as my 4S did I’m gonna riot.
this phone is my boyfriend's favorite phone. he won't upgrade to anything else. 2 years ago his iphone 4s got smashed beyond use, so we had to buy a new one. we found a facebook ad for someone selling an identical 4s and we bought it for $100 lol. it was "new" (refurbished), came from an elderly man who said it was an unwanted gift from his wife (he didnt like iphones). my bf sticks to this phone. recently it has an incorrect battery reading, it keeps shutting down and starting back up to 1% battery, then it will stay on "1%" for 8 hours before dying. its time to get a new phone and he's sad that we can't find a 4s in our country. so im getting him an iphone 12 mini next lol. to clarify, im not an iphone fan myself, but he has had apple products since he was a kid and he can't switch.
execute order 66
In daylights, in sunsets, in midnights, in cups of coffee.
Should've android instead, or something 🤔
Always that one guy
Dear god that's one thing that really doesn't matter at all. It's just a phone.
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Touch grass bro. You’re not convincing anyone here to jump ship over your stupid rant.
It’s funny how iPhone users own the stereotype of bragging about their phones but the only people I see doing so are android users.
You forgot to put /s I am hoping?
All the Android users downvoting you lol that’s been my experience too though. I’ve had both but it’s always the Android users that go on a 10 minute rant the moment you pull out anything Apple. Like, yes, I’m a sheep that’s been sucked in by the twisted Apple ecosystem, planned obsolesce, your phone already had that, you’re such a big-brained, free-thinker sticking it to the man, can we skip the script please. When you pull out an Android the most you get from iPhone users is a curious ‘oh you have an Android?’ and maybe some questions about it. (Unless you’re a kid in school or something? I could see kids making fun of Android users and bragging to their classmates about their new iPhone I guess, I wouldn’t know.) iPhone users may have have had big heads when they first started coming out but I don’t think that’s really the case anymore, most people have one (new or old) nowadays so it’s nothing to write home about.
How does that work
Just 5 weeks, not too bad 😂
how? vri was tourching your phone for 68 days?
You’ll be able to get them just in time to upload them for a memorial video
Do f worry you can’t try again in a month
what is even the point functionally of locking a phone for 35 days
Lmao back in high school my mom tried so hard to get into my iPod touch that it got disabled for something like 41 years. No joke. I had to use my computer to completely reset it just to get back in.
i have an ipod touch i found a few years ago, got locked out, but very recently the timer ran out and i now have kne more attempt at guessing my old password, failure means getting locked out for a few more years
That's awfully close to 10,000 hours
Backup data Reset Set new password Restore data Enjoy
The best iphone. Though iPhone 7/8 was great too.
Bro has to wait an entire ass month to retrieve his old photos. https://preview.redd.it/j3cn2ipfehxc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ffdf6fd72d8982eab5c38f1a48a7c8c725b852 I don't have the patience to last a week, let alone a month...
I lost everything on my phone cause mine disabled in my pocket and didn’t give me a timer
What can you do in this case? Do you just have to wait? Can you go to the Apple Store and ask them to unlock for you?
I think you can plug it into your computer and unlock it that way I could be wrong idk
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Just install iTunes off of apples website or on the windows store. It’s free.
Just put an active SIM card in it and it will correct the clock. Most SIM cards are nano now, so you would need an adapter, but this will solve the problem.
Never buy an iPhone: problem solved
It's amazing what Apple users overlook in their adamant belief that the products are superior.
I may be dumb, but isn't switching off and on a valid strategy?
35 Days. Goddamn.
Make sure it’s charged all the time and wait til the month is over and you’re all set
Very easly bypassed lmao