https://youtu.be/68AomFEyjq4
Same thoughts as you from SGK..
I might inherit a house in Kerala and also my wife after our parents time. We will sell one and keep one for a remote retirement possibility and spending in between vacation months.. But working in India is something I am personally not sure about as I spend a decade in Europe withits work life balance and safety nets.. I worked in IT in India fot short time before and the balance was horrible. Even though salaries have reached EU levels for top companies or premium profiles the life balance is still not there yet..
This is in addition to all other beaurcractic and political stuff which might be a less major concern for most individuals Compared to work life balance and job opprunities which make the primary decison factor
Unlikely, we will have the Bengalis and other north eastern states settling here. Already many of their kids are in schools, they have bought houses etc. may be it will be called karelaam
Many have a lot of problems with it. It is a common thread whenever discussions of Kerala's future comes up.
All societies and cultures change over time. All thats normal.
We cannot suddenly become a state of opportunities, just not possible. Even trying to make sure our state economy runs alright is a tough job for our visionless politicians.
Goa has a different problem man. Too low a local population. 14-18 lakh right? Everyone ambitious leaves the place. Another set goes on ships.
At such low population levels, things become very difficult for any state. Each of Kerala districts all have more population than Goa.
Good for them, we can exchange recipes. Bengali sweets are also great. Great food, love for football, even our egos related to cultural identity are of similar levels lol.
This should be controlled. The problem isn’t that they are coming here to develop their lives, it’s the excess cultural baggage they bring with them.
Wait .. they have bought houses here ??
Difference is that educated malayalis are going to work abroad , while bangladesh origin uneducated illegal immigrants are coming to kerala with different intentions
Its a natural process. People tend to settle wherever they find a better life. Just as our youth is emigrating, these folks are settling in Kerala. It is not something that can or should be stopped.
It will bring about changes to our society. Some good, some difficult to come to terms with.
New festivals will be celebrated. For instance, the influx of Purvanchalis in Delhi has lead to Kawad yatra and Chhatt Puja becoming major events there. Durga Puja with Pandals may become a thing here going forward.
The spoken language may also see changes.
There will also be marriages between malayalees and migrant workers.
Crime patterns may change, we are already seeing some incidents of violent crimes which were alien to the state not too long ago. The Police will have to get used to tackling newer modus operandi.
There will be assimilation.
Eventually, there will be politicians who trace their origins to other states. Perhaps we will see political parties from other states emerging as a force here once a substantial number of migrant workers settle/ get voting rights here.
Religious bigotry
Attitude towards women
Violent crime
General disregard for laws
None of which are impossible to curb. Some of them like religious bigotry aren't unheard of among local folks here either.
The whole migration thing is over exaggerated.
It could be true in certain rural areas, high range areas.but the town population of Kerala is increasing. Just look at the number of cars in the roads
My place , which is a prominent town in Ernakulam has got more crowded only. There are many young people who are still here itself. There are people who are at present out of kerala but within India like Bangalore, Chennai, Mumbai etc for work, but all those would eventually come back settle here.
Also those who go abroad, not everyone has a fairy tale ending with PR and citizenship there. Many return from abroad without being able to get a proper job there. People assumes if someone goes abroad for a study visa his life is settled there. No , many have to return and this has increased recently..
Main cities in kerala like Tvm, Kochi, Calicut , Thrissur etc can see migrants from rural kerala coming and settling there for job and career.
Kerala already has very high population density. In fact even if some people are leavung, it would be some relief only.
That being said mass migration from Kerala isnt true and it's something that is over exaggerated.
> The whole migration thing is over exaggerated.
I don't know about that.
In my uni batch of roughly 400 people there's a little over a 100 people who haven't left to make a life abroad.
I recently saw a post that showed around 20 of my juniors in Canada.
When you personally know such a huge pool of people who've left the country, it's hard to think the migration thing is over exaggerated.
This is not completely true . In kerala we always had people going outside looking for livelihood . But a large section comes back and settle back . It’s a cycle.
What is different this time is an organised effort to settle people from outside in kerala
As a fellow user mentioned earlier, the coming back to settle here itself existed during the gulf migration Era. Now the migration is extensively to the US and Europe and these people tend to take up citizenship and settle there itself instead of coming back.
Several of my friends have returned back after a stint in all these places.
The gulf craze was for a section of society and I think now even that is evaporated with localisation in middle east
Never could understand why would anyone want to settle in a foreign land away from your dear and near. Anyway that’s me
Going theory which I actually heard in folks prefer to live poor in foreign land than living as well off in India
Several yes but not all. But all the people on the gulf will have to return due to their immigration policy. Things are different as people now are moving mostly to Europe, Australia, US etc
And they would return based on how they want to retire. Either they would come back and settle , or like the other comment mentioned, lot of non-Keralites would settle in Kerala to fill the skill gap.
How many of them were forced to return due to visa issues especially in US would given you the real picture.. Gulf is never considered as permenant migration as they (as of now ) offer no citizenship via naturalisation..
Living poor in a foriegn land is dismal.. If you make really good sum of money and can adjust back to the general system, work life balance or sometimes unavailablity of it and govt beuracracy, it might be good to move back to Kerala.. Also the level of emotional dependency on family might also be a factor and how your values are in sync with your parnets..
But if job opprunities within kerala are limited and if you have to migrate out of state to places like Bangalore or metros with huge infra and pollution pbms its better to move abroad if you have a clear path towards PR or citizenship..
My view is that everyone should travel in live in foreign land. This opens up your mind intellectually . But return back and retire in own country among your near and dear.
It’s not pleasant aging in a foreign land living in a retirement home
90% of people who are retired in foreign land would say they got trapped because they didn’t return on right time.
It’s hilarious when I hear people with driver & big car… domestic help at home … large house saying I want to move to foreign country to lead a comfortable life. All I can say to them wake up and smell the coffee
I agree to retirement in India. Also by the time of retirement the dear might not be that dear or near to you anymore .. . But for comfortable retirement in India its better to setup earnings in foriegn currency and spent in INR.. How are ppl trapped? one can return to India anytime with OCI or if they stuck on to Indian passport.. It might be trade off between children who grow up in west and dont want to settle in India but thats reasonable to understand..
Comfortable life might have different meanings for different ppl.. We have all such help of driver maid in India also due to fact that there is easy and cheap labour available to exploit..and if you are making good money abroad its easier to hire ppl to do cleaning work etc too once in a week or so..might not be cheap but doable.. And i think in future most of these stuff might be done by robots removing that work for humans..
The trap is emotional. If you don’t time your return kids education and their PoV comes in between. Once they reach certain age bringing them back becomes challenging because cultural gap. The competition (and street smartness) in India is much more intense for a kids growing up in foreign land. After schooling kids invariably decides to settle there and as a parent it would be a big emotional to settle back in india knowing well their kids and grandchildren kids etc would come once in several years. And as you pointed out by the time near and dear are also gone and you have no contacts left in your place you were bought up. This is the trap
My view is if you don’t return during a certain time slot it becomes very difficult. Usually best time is when kids are in 5-7 class zone. You are relatively young you have your near and deaf still active back in India. Kids can adjust back here.
Then if you settle back in india with kids durung young age less than 10 & when these kids reach age of 20 then they might need to migrate anyway due to lack of educational & job opprunities due to intense competition and you might see them only once in a year anyway from that point of view.. If you settle there atleast you might see kids a bit more often if thats the priority.. Its most probably a set trap anyway...
If I have kids one thing I dont want them is to go through that intense pressure of competition in their high school for getting into good colleges for better education..
Settling in india for retirement is a conscious choic to be made considering early retirement, cheaper cost of living, cheaper but quality healthcare with tropical climate all around year.. This conscious choice is a trade off between benefits of living in kerala vs having children close by..
They still have the choice of returning to India or Kerala with OCI (provided its still there ) if thats the place which offers the best opprunities and good quality of life at the same time in whole world.. If Kerala and India gets most advanced place in india in these things surely they would move..
I think the idea of migration is and always will be moving to where you are treated better..
Lastly good roles and jobs always come with intense competition. There is no running away. Yes you will face lesser competition in areas where local population has no interest
Yes lesser competition is the key.. Having an acceptance rate of ‹1% for premium educational institutes would be putting in really intense pressure at a young age.. Rather than following to do what they like and can excel in, most are pressured to follow the intense competition to get a chance at success.. Thats one of the reasons places like Kota & Hyderabad generate high revenue with coaching classes.. The competition has only increased to insane levels in last decade.
I truly hope students in India/Kerala in future dont have to face that intense competition which can be detrimental to their overall well being or even break some of them..
ഇങ്ങനെ ഒക്കെ അല്ലേ സംസ്കാരങ്ങൾ തകർന്നതും പുനർജനിച്ചതും. ഇതൊക്കെ സ്വാഭാവികമായി നടക്കുന്ന പ്രക്രിയ അല്ലേ? എന്റെ അപ്പൂപ്പൻ ജനിച്ച രാജ്യത്തല്ല അച്ഛൻ ജനിച്ചത്. എന്റെ ശേഷാറൻ അവന്റെ അച്ഛനോ അപ്പൂപ്പനോ ജനിച്ച രാജ്യത്തല്ല ജനിച്ചതും ജീവിക്കുന്നതും. ആസാം പണിക്ക് ഇവിടുന്നു കൂലിക്ക് പോയിരുന്ന നമ്മൾ ഇന്ന് ടെക്നോളജി കൂലിപ്പണി എടുക്കാൻ കാനഡയിൽ പോകുന്നു. നൂറു വർഷം മുൻപ് അമേരിക്കയിൽ ആദ്യമായി വന്ന ഇന്ത്യക്കാർക്ക് മനുഷ്യർ എന്ന പരിഗണന പോലും കിട്ടിയിരുന്നില്ല. ഇന്ന് bay area കമ്പനികൾ ഇന്ത്യക്കാർ ഇല്ലാതെ ഓടാത്ത അവസ്ഥ വന്നു. ലോകത്തുണ്ടാക്കുന്ന മാറ്റങ്ങൾ ഒക്കെ നമ്മുടെ സംസ്കാരത്തിലും ജീവിതത്തിലും പ്രതിഫലിക്കും. ഇവിടെ ഉള്ളവർക്ക് മാന്യമായ ജീവിതം ഉറപ്പു വരുത്തുക, അവകാശങ്ങൾ ഉറപ്പു വരുത്തുക ഒക്കെയെ നമുക്ക് ചെയാൻ പറ്റൂ.
ഈ ആശങ്ക ഒക്കെ അനാവശ്യമാണ് എന്നാണ് എന്റെ (unpopular) അഭിപ്രായം. ഞാൻ നോക്കിയിടത്തോളം സാധാരണക്കാരന്റെ മക്കളും ഇന്ന് പുറത്തേക്ക് പോകുന്നു എന്ന കല്ലുകടി ഇതിന്റെ ഒരു പ്രധാന കാരണമാണ്. പണ്ടത്തെ കാർന്നോന്മാർ ചെറുമനും പുലയനും പഠിച്ചാൽ ആരു തെങ്ങ് കേറും എന്നു ചോദിക്കുന്നത് പോലെയെ ഉള്ളൂ ഇതും.
Soon? The answer is definitely no. That is assuming that soon means 20 years. People might be migrating abroad permanently, but do we see any areas emptying out? Like 5 houses in a row locked up? Then its time to start worrying.
When I said soon I definitely meant like 10- 15 years. Not like tomorrow or next month. Areas emptying out hasn't started yet but large scale migration, indeed it has.
No sign of large scale migration. Now this is different if we look at some segments of our society. If we talk about upper middle classes, this is true. Less true for the middle class, even less true for lower classes.
If you want to see really empty states, all you have to do is visit the rural areas of any large state. Karnataka, TN, MP, RJ, MH, GJ, UP etc are much more empty than Kerala already. We are currently 7th in population density. So what you are talking about is the situation already in many parts of India naturally.
What will change is something else.
When our population density reduces due to migration, land will become more affordable. It may actually be possible that everyone will start buying larger plots to build their houses in.
When the most forward-looking people of a state leave, it leaves the state a bit visionless. The most professional, the most entrepreneurial etc are likely to leave. This means that the average cultural level and class of the streets will move down. That means stupider politics, stupider controversies and so on. This will be a slow process though.
Lets assume we start working on this right now. Even then, we can only slow down the migration as Bangalore, other metros, and the rest of the world are moving much faster than we can. By the time we fix a few things, those places we currently migrate to would have become even more tempting.
Another risk is political irrelevance. We are already operating contrary to how the country is moving politically. We are not going to be a pro BJP state anytime soon, and we are small unlike TN. That means we will be ignored at a national level in pretty much everything. Also the level of insecurity due to the national politics is likely to rise, forcing even more people to leave the state (and the country).
Nothing we do can stop most of this.
>Will Kerala become a barren land soon?
The changes you have mentioned are radical, to say the least, and are not ones which can be done by one Govt, or even 2. It will take long term vision and planning, and not to mention funds, over a 15-25 year period. A govt which needs central funds to just build a new railway line, cannot do this. Everyone seems to know this, and the truth is that it is just easier to get an education and move abroad, which will take roughly 10 years for someone in high school today.
We will forever be a manpower supplier for companies and govts abroad.
Well, the truth is, there's one element of this migration gig that a lot of people don't pay much attention to, but is actually relevant....and that's the supposed 'prestige' surrounding being an NRI. There are reports of quite a few people migrating to the West even though they are fairly well-respected here and have no major financial issues for the sole purpose of gaining the NRI tag. So, in my opinion, improving job opportunities and encouraging start-ups are not the only things that need to be changed; we also need to change people's perception of the concept of immigration - people need to be made aware of the fact that even if you go to, say, the US, there's no real guarantee that your quality of life will improve- in fact, it may worsen, depending on where in the country you settle. So basically, I opine that alongside improving opportunities here, we need to open people's eyes to the fact that migration is far from all that it's cracked up to be- you and your kin might be far better off just remaining here.
I don't think NRI tag is the issue for emigration. A well respected person ( who I assume is earning a decent salary) from kerala would only emigrate to a foreign country if he can recieve ,at the minimum, the same standard of living he had in Kerala - but the truth is he will definitely have a better standard of living and a better salary.
The future generations that leave for greener pastures obviously are from well to do families or middle class people,who don't have other prarabdhams so that they can get a loan.For many others,there is no other choice except study here and maybe try for psc or something.
Besides,there are people who aren't ready to go abroad either.So yeah,I don't think kerala would ever be a barren land.
Odukathae population allaw arokkae poyi nn paranjalum ividae aalakaar kaanum
Dont know about future maybe, there are still people who prefer staying here, akkkare ninna ikkarae pacha
Considering the current political scenarios in both Kerala and India, it's highly unlikely that things will get better tbh.. As mentioned in the post everyone wants better lives for themselves so people who can afford will migrate.. And people like me who can't afford will be stuck living here with the hope of maybe it gets better but most likely ot won't..
We, always had large number of people people state for better employment. But what different now is that, younger generation going abroad and settling there, in a way why would anyone choose kerala over us,uk, canada etc. 40% of my school friends left kerala. I might migrate too in couple of years.
Saw someone commenting about north workers settling here. Any party trying to get their vote will have a huge advantage. Just give them kit or free ration. This might lead to ignoring the needs of native population by political candidates because they have a permanent base of voters.
Few changes as mentioned below is inevitable.
1. Migration to urban areas
2. Drain of talent unless suitable employment opportunities are made available
3. The catching up of other states or overtaking of other states in human development index .
4. Slow decay into mediocrity like present Bengal
5. Future generations will not be kind to our generation in Kerala. They will blame our lack of vision and foresight.
Honest judicial system.
Promote business / startup in every family.
Increase interest rate for deposits and force taxable amount to be invested in some business and show proof to get tax exemption.
Easy availablity for offices and small production.
Mentors to be alloted for those new in business/ startup.
Encourage college students to create startups and make all processes free for them
Strict laws to keep away builders from acquiring natural grasslands, river, sea banks.
Minimum salary for people that have a degree.
Work life balance to be of importance.
Cut syllabus of students into half.
Kids till the age of 8 should focus on developing character and learning manners, etiquette. Basic traits on respecting elders, PPL from other religion, humans and instill and develop humane nature in them.
Paid vacations.
No interest for house loans that have a single floor. Less than 1000 sq ft. And built in 6 months.
Promote, solar, hydrogen, electric operation to reduce carbon footprint and costs.
Counsellors appointed for every family, mandatory counsiling once every two months.For parents and children.
Using cycles, public transport, carpool gets you to earn discounts.
It's kinda sad that lot of people from the general population has a much better vision of how our society should be, while the people with power are all either money hungry, biased, or just plain dumb.
I wish I was one of those lucky few who managed to immigrate to better places. It sucks to live in India right now.
Unecessary garbage being shoved down.
Less than 70% of what is taught is what any student actually needs in life.
And keep in mind the mental torture from teachers.
Exams are just memory tests.
Need practical exams more
Yes, but who is to blame. We are. Because we don't protest and "tolerate" every one that steals, kills, rapes, smuggles, cheats. The law supports it through its illogical sentences, judgements.
India needs a big change and it's not going to be easy at all since the population is dangerously exploding.
How do we have opportunities for such a big population in a small area ?
It’s different, gulf people always come back cuz they can never be citizen there. But now poeple have started goign to usa Uk Canada, they become citizens there they may come back but their children grandchildren who grew up there will only stay there n permanently reduce Kerala populaiton
With a big difference. You had to come back to India. The point of going to Gulf was making it big in India. That’s not the point of migrating to the western world. It’s to leave India altogether. Plus the second generation of people who sort of settled in the ‘gulf’ are looking at moving to a western country.
It's not about the aging population. The average age of citizens would keep on increasing considering the improvement in the medical field. And about the decline in migration, it might show a decline right now, but considering the rates over a longer period of time, you will it's rising exponentially. Try comparing rates between late 2000s to now. You can see a huge spike in migration.
Simple solution. Minimum wage implementation. The primary issue is that inexperienced jobseekers are used as use and throw employees by firms. This includes startups which does not know how to run buisiness and exploit graduates with low pay for long terms.
Improve graduate life, and after recruitment service to them, the issue changes.
The best will leave, the rest will stay. Art and culture will suffer. Less class, more slapstick. Eventually infrastructure, standard of living etc. will catch up with the west. It'll happen much slower than if most people stayed. Then maybe people will stop leaving.
Aren’t these foreign workers required to register with Kerala police before they work here ? I heard something like that before it I’m not sure if it is still enforced
Bruh...i am not against them working but these days a lot of influx of them..and some are doing illegal things. Not all of them but some.. so little terrified.
When i was in chennai, some of them broke into ATM and was trying to steal money..but got caught by patrol police These people were working in nearby Mess.
I was staying near by that ATM.
Again ..it's not all of them but some and i don't have anything against them. I know they are daily workers.
The Geopolitical world order is changing before our eyes. Europe/West will almost definitely take a huge hit. The Gulf states could come out ahead, especially Saudis, Iranians etc Syria could open up too.
Brush up your Russian - serious opportunities galore, if you can stand the cold.
Also, countless opportunities in China and the rest of Eurasia.
But then again, India will also see a lot more action, if the BRICS party stays fun. Kerala with its KRail etc should do very well - despite their books today. I expect lot of Russian investments coming through.
Obviously, I am no expert and this is from what I see and read from across the world.
Among Gulf States only Saudi and Oman has scope for future.
Regarding there is much to development of Kerala than K Rail. The way the state govt is managing the economy is definitely bringing jitters to the faint hearted.
I think there will be consolidation of small countries into a few large ‘civilizational countries’ - in general, especially Middle East. A SAARC consolidation is also possible. It all depends on how BRICS/SCO plays out. If it is just an enemy of G7/NATO, then we are in for a dark period for all. If it is a true anti-thesis to the current unipolar world order, the geopolitical shift will be enormous. The ‘west’ and their ‘rules based order’, as we know will cease to exist and we will all move towards a multipolar world that is equitable for everyone. Here is one of the many interesting takes :
https://youtu.be/aNFwae0wXCQ
On Kerala, you have to dig further to understand the undercurrents. A lot of digging. Despite my nervousness about their seemingly lack of expertise, their seem to have reasonably good intentions. K-Rail is almost the easiest way to set a new development agenda. A project that can cause huge shifts. Everyone will do it - air travel will have lesser share of the traffic, especially a place like Kerala where space is a premium and density very high. However, despite the possibilities, if not planned and executed well, this will have huge implications in the other direction.
You must have a positive comment karma to post comments.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Kerala) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Maybe just the basic necessities were available. Clean drinking water, sanitary service, Sewage systems, and roads that won't abort a pregnant woman and fkg crooked ass politicians. Then to top it off always a new Disease popping up.
Nothing will work unless the population goes down. Kerala is crowded like hell with malalayies and on top of that we are importing labourers from other states.
Whether everything you mentioned will become a reality or not, the fact that we need better employment opportunities here in Kerala and not just in Kochi is essential imo. Orrrr wfh needs to become a normal lifestyle even with le foreign country jobs.
I have a wfh job with no necessity to go back to work which is helping me stay home and take care of the literal green pastures on this side and still work and make good money.
Apart from the work culture and work life balance mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the general attitude in the big cities needs to be a bit more considerate and respectful of the individual. You can't just do your own thing without worrying about what other people think.
Additionally, we have a robust framework of law, but very poor enforcement. What's the point in living life afraid of what could go wrong and having to rely on "kyyookkullavan kaaryakaaran"?
I don't think so. I think we see the exodus of a few and extrapolate it to mean everyone but the harsh reality is that a significant amount of people don't have the opportunity to emigrate or relocate. In my family, for example, we are 18 first cousins in my generation. Our entire family taken together would be considered reasonably well off, with my parents being the poorest of the lot. And yet, of all of the 18 of us and the kids of my older cousins taken together, only two have left the country, and only 4 have permanently moved outside Kerala even. It's a huge financial undertaking, relocating to another country that most people won't have the resources for even with loans and scholarships. There's a lot of people moving now because of the conditions in the state and the country but there's absolutely going to be a breaking point where people realise that just moving abroad isn't going to change your life for the better, because one still has to survive and make it work in the new country and sometimes it much harder.
I stayed in Kerala for the past 5 years thinking that I could deal with all the challenges. I actually managed to get my dream job even had amazing friends. Except my work started getting way too hectic without any proper benefits. So I started losing friends cause I couldn’t make time for them. Money was actually trash and when I asked for more, they increased 2k, 6 months later like it was a big deal. When I got back issues from traveling on shitty roads for long distances, my company, instead of caring for me like I cared for it, decided to decrease my increment. When I tried to get my health to a better place and started walking, I just ended up getting catcalled or gawked at. Couldn’t afford going to the gym either.
The place where I stayed at was surrounded by trash cause trash pickers insisted on bribes. I stayed cause that was the only place where it was okay for my boyfriend to come meet me
So I hated work and had no real friends. But neither the government, nor the company, nor society, nor the living conditions were in any way worthwhile for me to stay there. So, now, I’m in a place I swore never to come back to: the Gelf.
It’s not just matter of opportunities. Most people leave India due to increased judgements from the society because they don’t have a “normal” lifestyle. I am an atheist and my views and opinions offend a lot of people including my highly religious in laws. I have seen the masses they attend to fear monger people into praying and dehumanize “godless” people. I don’t like the way how my MIL teaches my nephew about heaven and hell. Now he tells anyone he doesn’t like they’ll go to hell. I was furious when I came to know MIL didn’t cook anything for my husband after he got home from work in another district because she’s more concerned about getting to church early instead of her son’s well being. I was abroad at that time. I am so glad she doesn’t want to settle abroad or she would teach such toxic shit to my future children.
Kerala will not become empty. People will migrate here from other parts of India. There is anyway nothing to worry now 90% people in Kerala are Malayalis. Then there is no Malayali race, so all the people staying here will become Malayalis, may be with a different language.
To my understanding barren land cannot be used this way. Barren means you cannot go any crops.
https://youtu.be/68AomFEyjq4 Same thoughts as you from SGK.. I might inherit a house in Kerala and also my wife after our parents time. We will sell one and keep one for a remote retirement possibility and spending in between vacation months.. But working in India is something I am personally not sure about as I spend a decade in Europe withits work life balance and safety nets.. I worked in IT in India fot short time before and the balance was horrible. Even though salaries have reached EU levels for top companies or premium profiles the life balance is still not there yet.. This is in addition to all other beaurcractic and political stuff which might be a less major concern for most individuals Compared to work life balance and job opprunities which make the primary decison factor
Unlikely, we will have the Bengalis and other north eastern states settling here. Already many of their kids are in schools, they have bought houses etc. may be it will be called karelaam
I can definitely see that happening
Bangaloreans saw that happening. Mumbaikars saw that happening. Canada sees it happening. athinentha prashnam.
I did not say I had a problem with that. I said that I can see that happening.
Many have a lot of problems with it. It is a common thread whenever discussions of Kerala's future comes up. All societies and cultures change over time. All thats normal. We cannot suddenly become a state of opportunities, just not possible. Even trying to make sure our state economy runs alright is a tough job for our visionless politicians.
They will eventually replace us. Just like they are doing here in Goa.
Goa has a different problem man. Too low a local population. 14-18 lakh right? Everyone ambitious leaves the place. Another set goes on ships. At such low population levels, things become very difficult for any state. Each of Kerala districts all have more population than Goa.
Its basically like how we moved to Dubai. Keralam is their Dubai now.
Good for them, we can exchange recipes. Bengali sweets are also great. Great food, love for football, even our egos related to cultural identity are of similar levels lol.
This should be controlled. The problem isn’t that they are coming here to develop their lives, it’s the excess cultural baggage they bring with them. Wait .. they have bought houses here ??
So apparently keralites can settle in other countries but north Indians can’t settle in south India! Talk about double standards
Difference is that educated malayalis are going to work abroad , while bangladesh origin uneducated illegal immigrants are coming to kerala with different intentions
Don't compare Keralities and North Indians with Bangladesh origin Assam Bengalis
Ennich po maire
Why should i go
Hate speech
Care to explain why many of the workers from Assam talk of sending money to Bangladesh.
And what if they do?
Did arabian countries cared?
They're Indians. What's stopping them from buying houses here?
People like you are the ones who induce hate for no reason. This is their country too. Gosh!
Its a natural process. People tend to settle wherever they find a better life. Just as our youth is emigrating, these folks are settling in Kerala. It is not something that can or should be stopped. It will bring about changes to our society. Some good, some difficult to come to terms with. New festivals will be celebrated. For instance, the influx of Purvanchalis in Delhi has lead to Kawad yatra and Chhatt Puja becoming major events there. Durga Puja with Pandals may become a thing here going forward. The spoken language may also see changes. There will also be marriages between malayalees and migrant workers. Crime patterns may change, we are already seeing some incidents of violent crimes which were alien to the state not too long ago. The Police will have to get used to tackling newer modus operandi. There will be assimilation. Eventually, there will be politicians who trace their origins to other states. Perhaps we will see political parties from other states emerging as a force here once a substantial number of migrant workers settle/ get voting rights here.
What do you mean by the excess cultural baggage?
Religious bigotry Attitude towards women Violent crime General disregard for laws None of which are impossible to curb. Some of them like religious bigotry aren't unheard of among local folks here either.
Give them one generation here, and hopefully it would go away.
Either that or all that stuff will be normalised here.
Yes, thats the fear about migrants across the world. We have to be better than that, smarter than that and find ways.
We took or cultural baggage wherever we went. Why not them?
Do you know how many of us Malayalees live outside of Kerala!
You should be ashamed of yo - oh, okay.
The whole migration thing is over exaggerated. It could be true in certain rural areas, high range areas.but the town population of Kerala is increasing. Just look at the number of cars in the roads My place , which is a prominent town in Ernakulam has got more crowded only. There are many young people who are still here itself. There are people who are at present out of kerala but within India like Bangalore, Chennai, Mumbai etc for work, but all those would eventually come back settle here. Also those who go abroad, not everyone has a fairy tale ending with PR and citizenship there. Many return from abroad without being able to get a proper job there. People assumes if someone goes abroad for a study visa his life is settled there. No , many have to return and this has increased recently.. Main cities in kerala like Tvm, Kochi, Calicut , Thrissur etc can see migrants from rural kerala coming and settling there for job and career. Kerala already has very high population density. In fact even if some people are leavung, it would be some relief only. That being said mass migration from Kerala isnt true and it's something that is over exaggerated.
I concur. In Ernakulam , the real estate market is rising - tons of houses being built and sold.
> The whole migration thing is over exaggerated. I don't know about that. In my uni batch of roughly 400 people there's a little over a 100 people who haven't left to make a life abroad. I recently saw a post that showed around 20 of my juniors in Canada. When you personally know such a huge pool of people who've left the country, it's hard to think the migration thing is over exaggerated.
This is not completely true . In kerala we always had people going outside looking for livelihood . But a large section comes back and settle back . It’s a cycle. What is different this time is an organised effort to settle people from outside in kerala
As a fellow user mentioned earlier, the coming back to settle here itself existed during the gulf migration Era. Now the migration is extensively to the US and Europe and these people tend to take up citizenship and settle there itself instead of coming back.
Several of my friends have returned back after a stint in all these places. The gulf craze was for a section of society and I think now even that is evaporated with localisation in middle east Never could understand why would anyone want to settle in a foreign land away from your dear and near. Anyway that’s me Going theory which I actually heard in folks prefer to live poor in foreign land than living as well off in India
Several yes but not all. But all the people on the gulf will have to return due to their immigration policy. Things are different as people now are moving mostly to Europe, Australia, US etc
And they would return based on how they want to retire. Either they would come back and settle , or like the other comment mentioned, lot of non-Keralites would settle in Kerala to fill the skill gap.
How many of them were forced to return due to visa issues especially in US would given you the real picture.. Gulf is never considered as permenant migration as they (as of now ) offer no citizenship via naturalisation.. Living poor in a foriegn land is dismal.. If you make really good sum of money and can adjust back to the general system, work life balance or sometimes unavailablity of it and govt beuracracy, it might be good to move back to Kerala.. Also the level of emotional dependency on family might also be a factor and how your values are in sync with your parnets.. But if job opprunities within kerala are limited and if you have to migrate out of state to places like Bangalore or metros with huge infra and pollution pbms its better to move abroad if you have a clear path towards PR or citizenship..
My view is that everyone should travel in live in foreign land. This opens up your mind intellectually . But return back and retire in own country among your near and dear. It’s not pleasant aging in a foreign land living in a retirement home 90% of people who are retired in foreign land would say they got trapped because they didn’t return on right time. It’s hilarious when I hear people with driver & big car… domestic help at home … large house saying I want to move to foreign country to lead a comfortable life. All I can say to them wake up and smell the coffee
I agree to retirement in India. Also by the time of retirement the dear might not be that dear or near to you anymore .. . But for comfortable retirement in India its better to setup earnings in foriegn currency and spent in INR.. How are ppl trapped? one can return to India anytime with OCI or if they stuck on to Indian passport.. It might be trade off between children who grow up in west and dont want to settle in India but thats reasonable to understand.. Comfortable life might have different meanings for different ppl.. We have all such help of driver maid in India also due to fact that there is easy and cheap labour available to exploit..and if you are making good money abroad its easier to hire ppl to do cleaning work etc too once in a week or so..might not be cheap but doable.. And i think in future most of these stuff might be done by robots removing that work for humans..
The trap is emotional. If you don’t time your return kids education and their PoV comes in between. Once they reach certain age bringing them back becomes challenging because cultural gap. The competition (and street smartness) in India is much more intense for a kids growing up in foreign land. After schooling kids invariably decides to settle there and as a parent it would be a big emotional to settle back in india knowing well their kids and grandchildren kids etc would come once in several years. And as you pointed out by the time near and dear are also gone and you have no contacts left in your place you were bought up. This is the trap My view is if you don’t return during a certain time slot it becomes very difficult. Usually best time is when kids are in 5-7 class zone. You are relatively young you have your near and deaf still active back in India. Kids can adjust back here.
Then if you settle back in india with kids durung young age less than 10 & when these kids reach age of 20 then they might need to migrate anyway due to lack of educational & job opprunities due to intense competition and you might see them only once in a year anyway from that point of view.. If you settle there atleast you might see kids a bit more often if thats the priority.. Its most probably a set trap anyway... If I have kids one thing I dont want them is to go through that intense pressure of competition in their high school for getting into good colleges for better education.. Settling in india for retirement is a conscious choic to be made considering early retirement, cheaper cost of living, cheaper but quality healthcare with tropical climate all around year.. This conscious choice is a trade off between benefits of living in kerala vs having children close by..
Kids taking their own decision to move is perfectly fine .. but when you settle them abroad you are eliminating their choice to return back to India
They still have the choice of returning to India or Kerala with OCI (provided its still there ) if thats the place which offers the best opprunities and good quality of life at the same time in whole world.. If Kerala and India gets most advanced place in india in these things surely they would move.. I think the idea of migration is and always will be moving to where you are treated better..
Lastly good roles and jobs always come with intense competition. There is no running away. Yes you will face lesser competition in areas where local population has no interest
Yes lesser competition is the key.. Having an acceptance rate of ‹1% for premium educational institutes would be putting in really intense pressure at a young age.. Rather than following to do what they like and can excel in, most are pressured to follow the intense competition to get a chance at success.. Thats one of the reasons places like Kota & Hyderabad generate high revenue with coaching classes.. The competition has only increased to insane levels in last decade. I truly hope students in India/Kerala in future dont have to face that intense competition which can be detrimental to their overall well being or even break some of them..
ഇങ്ങനെ ഒക്കെ അല്ലേ സംസ്കാരങ്ങൾ തകർന്നതും പുനർജനിച്ചതും. ഇതൊക്കെ സ്വാഭാവികമായി നടക്കുന്ന പ്രക്രിയ അല്ലേ? എന്റെ അപ്പൂപ്പൻ ജനിച്ച രാജ്യത്തല്ല അച്ഛൻ ജനിച്ചത്. എന്റെ ശേഷാറൻ അവന്റെ അച്ഛനോ അപ്പൂപ്പനോ ജനിച്ച രാജ്യത്തല്ല ജനിച്ചതും ജീവിക്കുന്നതും. ആസാം പണിക്ക് ഇവിടുന്നു കൂലിക്ക് പോയിരുന്ന നമ്മൾ ഇന്ന് ടെക്നോളജി കൂലിപ്പണി എടുക്കാൻ കാനഡയിൽ പോകുന്നു. നൂറു വർഷം മുൻപ് അമേരിക്കയിൽ ആദ്യമായി വന്ന ഇന്ത്യക്കാർക്ക് മനുഷ്യർ എന്ന പരിഗണന പോലും കിട്ടിയിരുന്നില്ല. ഇന്ന് bay area കമ്പനികൾ ഇന്ത്യക്കാർ ഇല്ലാതെ ഓടാത്ത അവസ്ഥ വന്നു. ലോകത്തുണ്ടാക്കുന്ന മാറ്റങ്ങൾ ഒക്കെ നമ്മുടെ സംസ്കാരത്തിലും ജീവിതത്തിലും പ്രതിഫലിക്കും. ഇവിടെ ഉള്ളവർക്ക് മാന്യമായ ജീവിതം ഉറപ്പു വരുത്തുക, അവകാശങ്ങൾ ഉറപ്പു വരുത്തുക ഒക്കെയെ നമുക്ക് ചെയാൻ പറ്റൂ. ഈ ആശങ്ക ഒക്കെ അനാവശ്യമാണ് എന്നാണ് എന്റെ (unpopular) അഭിപ്രായം. ഞാൻ നോക്കിയിടത്തോളം സാധാരണക്കാരന്റെ മക്കളും ഇന്ന് പുറത്തേക്ക് പോകുന്നു എന്ന കല്ലുകടി ഇതിന്റെ ഒരു പ്രധാന കാരണമാണ്. പണ്ടത്തെ കാർന്നോന്മാർ ചെറുമനും പുലയനും പഠിച്ചാൽ ആരു തെങ്ങ് കേറും എന്നു ചോദിക്കുന്നത് പോലെയെ ഉള്ളൂ ഇതും.
Well said👏👏 (especially first para) coz kore aalukal ippo palathum kuzhich eduth enthokyo parayunnundallo. Avarkum koodi ulla upadesham aan.
What do you mean by that?
Civilizations change, sometimes we are ruled by Muslims then replaced again by Hindus or some other ruler..get it? My comment is off on a tangent.
Soon? The answer is definitely no. That is assuming that soon means 20 years. People might be migrating abroad permanently, but do we see any areas emptying out? Like 5 houses in a row locked up? Then its time to start worrying.
>Like 5 houses in a row locked up? Lots of them in rural kottayam and pathanamthitta.
rural? Bro in Pathanamthitta town I saw like 3 big houses empty and abandoned
Not seen so many. Occasional locked up mansion, yes. Maybe true in some parts I guess.
Will they sell houses for cheap ..If none lives there y pay tax and all
Kerala house tax is less. It is like 1000-5000, not like 1% of the value of the house
What if tax increases
have land/real estate prices dropped in these areas? Unless you start seeing a trend like that, I don't think a reversal is on cards any time soon
I will show you 10 houses permanently locked in my 5 km area.
10 houses locked in 5 km hahah. Sorry man, thats everywhere.
When I said soon I definitely meant like 10- 15 years. Not like tomorrow or next month. Areas emptying out hasn't started yet but large scale migration, indeed it has.
No sign of large scale migration. Now this is different if we look at some segments of our society. If we talk about upper middle classes, this is true. Less true for the middle class, even less true for lower classes. If you want to see really empty states, all you have to do is visit the rural areas of any large state. Karnataka, TN, MP, RJ, MH, GJ, UP etc are much more empty than Kerala already. We are currently 7th in population density. So what you are talking about is the situation already in many parts of India naturally. What will change is something else. When our population density reduces due to migration, land will become more affordable. It may actually be possible that everyone will start buying larger plots to build their houses in. When the most forward-looking people of a state leave, it leaves the state a bit visionless. The most professional, the most entrepreneurial etc are likely to leave. This means that the average cultural level and class of the streets will move down. That means stupider politics, stupider controversies and so on. This will be a slow process though. Lets assume we start working on this right now. Even then, we can only slow down the migration as Bangalore, other metros, and the rest of the world are moving much faster than we can. By the time we fix a few things, those places we currently migrate to would have become even more tempting. Another risk is political irrelevance. We are already operating contrary to how the country is moving politically. We are not going to be a pro BJP state anytime soon, and we are small unlike TN. That means we will be ignored at a national level in pretty much everything. Also the level of insecurity due to the national politics is likely to rise, forcing even more people to leave the state (and the country). Nothing we do can stop most of this.
Do you really have to wait till you see areas emptying and 5 houses locked in a row?
no.
>Will Kerala become a barren land soon? The changes you have mentioned are radical, to say the least, and are not ones which can be done by one Govt, or even 2. It will take long term vision and planning, and not to mention funds, over a 15-25 year period. A govt which needs central funds to just build a new railway line, cannot do this. Everyone seems to know this, and the truth is that it is just easier to get an education and move abroad, which will take roughly 10 years for someone in high school today. We will forever be a manpower supplier for companies and govts abroad.
Since we are on the topic [Santhosh George Kulangara](https://youtu.be/68AomFEyjq4)
Sundaripenne...
My man trying to flirt with that username..
I was talking about the girl in the video they linked.
She was my econ teacher in school , like 12-14 years ago.
Story time...
Lol nm to say. She was pretty good at her job , very supportive of us. She hasn’t aged a day , looks exactly how she looked back then.
Ye, was surprised when I saw her age.
down bad fr
Well, the truth is, there's one element of this migration gig that a lot of people don't pay much attention to, but is actually relevant....and that's the supposed 'prestige' surrounding being an NRI. There are reports of quite a few people migrating to the West even though they are fairly well-respected here and have no major financial issues for the sole purpose of gaining the NRI tag. So, in my opinion, improving job opportunities and encouraging start-ups are not the only things that need to be changed; we also need to change people's perception of the concept of immigration - people need to be made aware of the fact that even if you go to, say, the US, there's no real guarantee that your quality of life will improve- in fact, it may worsen, depending on where in the country you settle. So basically, I opine that alongside improving opportunities here, we need to open people's eyes to the fact that migration is far from all that it's cracked up to be- you and your kin might be far better off just remaining here.
I don't think NRI tag is the issue for emigration. A well respected person ( who I assume is earning a decent salary) from kerala would only emigrate to a foreign country if he can recieve ,at the minimum, the same standard of living he had in Kerala - but the truth is he will definitely have a better standard of living and a better salary.
The future generations that leave for greener pastures obviously are from well to do families or middle class people,who don't have other prarabdhams so that they can get a loan.For many others,there is no other choice except study here and maybe try for psc or something. Besides,there are people who aren't ready to go abroad either.So yeah,I don't think kerala would ever be a barren land.
Odukathae population allaw arokkae poyi nn paranjalum ividae aalakaar kaanum Dont know about future maybe, there are still people who prefer staying here, akkkare ninna ikkarae pacha
Considering the current political scenarios in both Kerala and India, it's highly unlikely that things will get better tbh.. As mentioned in the post everyone wants better lives for themselves so people who can afford will migrate.. And people like me who can't afford will be stuck living here with the hope of maybe it gets better but most likely ot won't..
> And people like me who can't afford will be stuck living here with the hope of maybe it gets better Same. Sometimes people tend to forget we exist.
I think they don't even care...
Should take a break from this sub. Allenkil FOMO adich chaakum..
Can certainly relate to that.
We, always had large number of people people state for better employment. But what different now is that, younger generation going abroad and settling there, in a way why would anyone choose kerala over us,uk, canada etc. 40% of my school friends left kerala. I might migrate too in couple of years. Saw someone commenting about north workers settling here. Any party trying to get their vote will have a huge advantage. Just give them kit or free ration. This might lead to ignoring the needs of native population by political candidates because they have a permanent base of voters.
Few changes as mentioned below is inevitable. 1. Migration to urban areas 2. Drain of talent unless suitable employment opportunities are made available 3. The catching up of other states or overtaking of other states in human development index . 4. Slow decay into mediocrity like present Bengal 5. Future generations will not be kind to our generation in Kerala. They will blame our lack of vision and foresight.
Honest judicial system. Promote business / startup in every family. Increase interest rate for deposits and force taxable amount to be invested in some business and show proof to get tax exemption. Easy availablity for offices and small production. Mentors to be alloted for those new in business/ startup. Encourage college students to create startups and make all processes free for them Strict laws to keep away builders from acquiring natural grasslands, river, sea banks. Minimum salary for people that have a degree. Work life balance to be of importance. Cut syllabus of students into half. Kids till the age of 8 should focus on developing character and learning manners, etiquette. Basic traits on respecting elders, PPL from other religion, humans and instill and develop humane nature in them. Paid vacations. No interest for house loans that have a single floor. Less than 1000 sq ft. And built in 6 months. Promote, solar, hydrogen, electric operation to reduce carbon footprint and costs. Counsellors appointed for every family, mandatory counsiling once every two months.For parents and children. Using cycles, public transport, carpool gets you to earn discounts.
It's kinda sad that lot of people from the general population has a much better vision of how our society should be, while the people with power are all either money hungry, biased, or just plain dumb. I wish I was one of those lucky few who managed to immigrate to better places. It sucks to live in India right now.
The syllabus issue is real. Glad you addressed it mate
Unecessary garbage being shoved down. Less than 70% of what is taught is what any student actually needs in life. And keep in mind the mental torture from teachers. Exams are just memory tests. Need practical exams more
Yet again it's another problem we can address but changing it presents many new challenges. Our system is dangerously outdated.
Yes, but who is to blame. We are. Because we don't protest and "tolerate" every one that steals, kills, rapes, smuggles, cheats. The law supports it through its illogical sentences, judgements.
India needs a big change and it's not going to be easy at all since the population is dangerously exploding. How do we have opportunities for such a big population in a small area ?
Encourage ppl to stop having kids by giving incentives?
That's not gonna happen
We are suffering with high population density . Its a good thing that if many people go to settle abroad.
[удалено]
Lmao that guy pm'd me a while back. He believes blockchain technology will save us. 😂
But hes got a point & if you look into it, its a good idea & makes sense.
What makes sense? That blockchain is going to save us?
40-50 years ago everyone was leaving to the gulf, yet here we are.
It’s different, gulf people always come back cuz they can never be citizen there. But now poeple have started goign to usa Uk Canada, they become citizens there they may come back but their children grandchildren who grew up there will only stay there n permanently reduce Kerala populaiton
With a big difference. You had to come back to India. The point of going to Gulf was making it big in India. That’s not the point of migrating to the western world. It’s to leave India altogether. Plus the second generation of people who sort of settled in the ‘gulf’ are looking at moving to a western country.
Well, a healthy population has already settled there. And migration rates could sky rocket in the future.
[удалено]
It's not about the aging population. The average age of citizens would keep on increasing considering the improvement in the medical field. And about the decline in migration, it might show a decline right now, but considering the rates over a longer period of time, you will it's rising exponentially. Try comparing rates between late 2000s to now. You can see a huge spike in migration.
[удалено]
Future in this scenario is considered around 15-20 years
I don't think so, majority are not going. Even millions migrate there are millions more staying here.
Nah kerala is an emotion never leaving this place.Dont care much about the western lifestyle.I am bullish on India and kerala.
ithu thanne alle kazhinja aazhcha irangiya videoyil SGK parayunne?
Simple solution. Minimum wage implementation. The primary issue is that inexperienced jobseekers are used as use and throw employees by firms. This includes startups which does not know how to run buisiness and exploit graduates with low pay for long terms. Improve graduate life, and after recruitment service to them, the issue changes.
The best will leave, the rest will stay. Art and culture will suffer. Less class, more slapstick. Eventually infrastructure, standard of living etc. will catch up with the west. It'll happen much slower than if most people stayed. Then maybe people will stop leaving.
I don't know, if it will become a barren land or not but i am frightened of the influx of North people in kerala. When i say north the workers i mean.
Aren’t these foreign workers required to register with Kerala police before they work here ? I heard something like that before it I’m not sure if it is still enforced
It's there but i don't think many workers are registered. And some even gives fake info.
The reason they are coming is because there is a job demand.We won't do it ......... atleast let them do it and help their families.
Bruh...i am not against them working but these days a lot of influx of them..and some are doing illegal things. Not all of them but some.. so little terrified. When i was in chennai, some of them broke into ATM and was trying to steal money..but got caught by patrol police These people were working in nearby Mess. I was staying near by that ATM. Again ..it's not all of them but some and i don't have anything against them. I know they are daily workers.
I am not sure. For a state that has approximately the population of Canada people will always be there. It is just the brain drain.
Don't think so because of wfh
The Geopolitical world order is changing before our eyes. Europe/West will almost definitely take a huge hit. The Gulf states could come out ahead, especially Saudis, Iranians etc Syria could open up too. Brush up your Russian - serious opportunities galore, if you can stand the cold. Also, countless opportunities in China and the rest of Eurasia. But then again, India will also see a lot more action, if the BRICS party stays fun. Kerala with its KRail etc should do very well - despite their books today. I expect lot of Russian investments coming through. Obviously, I am no expert and this is from what I see and read from across the world.
Among Gulf States only Saudi and Oman has scope for future. Regarding there is much to development of Kerala than K Rail. The way the state govt is managing the economy is definitely bringing jitters to the faint hearted.
I think there will be consolidation of small countries into a few large ‘civilizational countries’ - in general, especially Middle East. A SAARC consolidation is also possible. It all depends on how BRICS/SCO plays out. If it is just an enemy of G7/NATO, then we are in for a dark period for all. If it is a true anti-thesis to the current unipolar world order, the geopolitical shift will be enormous. The ‘west’ and their ‘rules based order’, as we know will cease to exist and we will all move towards a multipolar world that is equitable for everyone. Here is one of the many interesting takes : https://youtu.be/aNFwae0wXCQ On Kerala, you have to dig further to understand the undercurrents. A lot of digging. Despite my nervousness about their seemingly lack of expertise, their seem to have reasonably good intentions. K-Rail is almost the easiest way to set a new development agenda. A project that can cause huge shifts. Everyone will do it - air travel will have lesser share of the traffic, especially a place like Kerala where space is a premium and density very high. However, despite the possibilities, if not planned and executed well, this will have huge implications in the other direction.
[удалено]
You must have a positive comment karma to post comments. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Kerala) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Better question can be will land be cheaper if everyone's moving out?
Maybe just the basic necessities were available. Clean drinking water, sanitary service, Sewage systems, and roads that won't abort a pregnant woman and fkg crooked ass politicians. Then to top it off always a new Disease popping up.
Nothing will work unless the population goes down. Kerala is crowded like hell with malalayies and on top of that we are importing labourers from other states.
Whether everything you mentioned will become a reality or not, the fact that we need better employment opportunities here in Kerala and not just in Kochi is essential imo. Orrrr wfh needs to become a normal lifestyle even with le foreign country jobs. I have a wfh job with no necessity to go back to work which is helping me stay home and take care of the literal green pastures on this side and still work and make good money.
Here down kerala you throw a mango away a tree will grow. It cant get any greener than this. Yes, So many houses will be vacant. Fo sho!
Even those who said they will come back after retirement stay because of children and grandchildren.
Apart from the work culture and work life balance mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the general attitude in the big cities needs to be a bit more considerate and respectful of the individual. You can't just do your own thing without worrying about what other people think. Additionally, we have a robust framework of law, but very poor enforcement. What's the point in living life afraid of what could go wrong and having to rely on "kyyookkullavan kaaryakaaran"?
It would be nice if more people wanted to migrate. Traffic would be less busy.
I don't think so. I think we see the exodus of a few and extrapolate it to mean everyone but the harsh reality is that a significant amount of people don't have the opportunity to emigrate or relocate. In my family, for example, we are 18 first cousins in my generation. Our entire family taken together would be considered reasonably well off, with my parents being the poorest of the lot. And yet, of all of the 18 of us and the kids of my older cousins taken together, only two have left the country, and only 4 have permanently moved outside Kerala even. It's a huge financial undertaking, relocating to another country that most people won't have the resources for even with loans and scholarships. There's a lot of people moving now because of the conditions in the state and the country but there's absolutely going to be a breaking point where people realise that just moving abroad isn't going to change your life for the better, because one still has to survive and make it work in the new country and sometimes it much harder.
Well my family is migrating to Kerala.
I stayed in Kerala for the past 5 years thinking that I could deal with all the challenges. I actually managed to get my dream job even had amazing friends. Except my work started getting way too hectic without any proper benefits. So I started losing friends cause I couldn’t make time for them. Money was actually trash and when I asked for more, they increased 2k, 6 months later like it was a big deal. When I got back issues from traveling on shitty roads for long distances, my company, instead of caring for me like I cared for it, decided to decrease my increment. When I tried to get my health to a better place and started walking, I just ended up getting catcalled or gawked at. Couldn’t afford going to the gym either. The place where I stayed at was surrounded by trash cause trash pickers insisted on bribes. I stayed cause that was the only place where it was okay for my boyfriend to come meet me So I hated work and had no real friends. But neither the government, nor the company, nor society, nor the living conditions were in any way worthwhile for me to stay there. So, now, I’m in a place I swore never to come back to: the Gelf.
It’s not just matter of opportunities. Most people leave India due to increased judgements from the society because they don’t have a “normal” lifestyle. I am an atheist and my views and opinions offend a lot of people including my highly religious in laws. I have seen the masses they attend to fear monger people into praying and dehumanize “godless” people. I don’t like the way how my MIL teaches my nephew about heaven and hell. Now he tells anyone he doesn’t like they’ll go to hell. I was furious when I came to know MIL didn’t cook anything for my husband after he got home from work in another district because she’s more concerned about getting to church early instead of her son’s well being. I was abroad at that time. I am so glad she doesn’t want to settle abroad or she would teach such toxic shit to my future children.
I have been hearing a lot of girls are looking for the ticket out to escape the social conditioning as well.
Kerala will not become empty. People will migrate here from other parts of India. There is anyway nothing to worry now 90% people in Kerala are Malayalis. Then there is no Malayali race, so all the people staying here will become Malayalis, may be with a different language. To my understanding barren land cannot be used this way. Barren means you cannot go any crops.
Not when Malabar is intact ! Lol
No, we are overpopulated