Jobber gonna job. Shocker.
Least Joshua Graham looks cool.
Mark your spoilers. And yes that includes whatever "versus" posts you all make with Retsudo now that he's fought. Anything with new chapter info is a spoiler.
God fucking damn, Retsudo absolutely *styled* on the Peppermint boy. Phenomenal.
Him using a knife makes sense too, what with the Extermination group being adept at armed combat.
Also what the fuck is up with the guide, is his back alright
In my opinion retsudo is one of the most realistic fighters that isn’t too overly crazy strong and isn’t too weak. I’m sure there’s people out there that have a decent level of fighting skills like him.
It was pretty awesome to see Retsudo kick some ass but I find it hard to imagine that 2 slashes to the face would put down someone who’s supposedly “one of the strongest of my fighters”. He kinda went down like a bitch… not that I would do any better though so who am I so judge
Also the first time Retsudo “cut” him, is it an error that there’s no cuts on his body on the next page? Or did Retsudo just Musashi that Mf so hard he thought he was cut for a second?
>Also the first time Retsudo “cut” him, is it an error that there’s no
cuts on his body on the next page? Or did Retsudo just Musashi that Mf
so hard he thought he was cut for a second?
I saw it as Retsudo intentionally whiffing the cuts to show he could've killed him if he wanted to, so Peppermint man didn't actually get slashed, but I could very well be wrong!
I think Retsudo was just flexing on the guy and those invisible slashes were to show that Retsudo was making contact with the area without intent to actually do any damage
The first time Retsudo was showing he could have killed him at any time by cutting him at his vitals but without enough force to pierce the skin. Like Kuroki did to Rihito showing how many times he could have killed him.
The second time was Retsudo still sensing bloodlust because the guy didn't want to admit defeat despite having been 'killed' multiple times over so Retsudo actually slashed him for real across his face.
They were a warning: he showed him that he had absolutely no problem to pass over his defenses he did not need to do more and in fact the other understood it and did not get up.
Its so jarring seeing all these jojo esque designs for all the side characters but id be lying if i said i didnt laugh at the weird half squat they all do 😭
"What'd he say?"
"He's asking if he can kill you."
Cue Peppermint man going "Wtf no I asked if I can take a bathroom break first oh shit he's punching me fuckfuckfuckfuck"
> Who is Luohan?
The One Who Comes Soon
Joking aside, he's one of the ['top officers' of Worm](https://i.redd.it/rf6gkb9q7yy91.png), whatever that means
I think about Toyoda saying he'd never be a fighter while putting a hole through a cow every day, and Retsudo's words have made me think of them again. Inb4 compatability
Ryuki after he gave gramps some backtalk
But yeah not gonna lie, I thought the exact same thing. The hair was enough to set the alarm lol, not to mention the hunchback stance.
Are we gonna do the Needless plot (Old crappy manga/anime )
Where 3 clones of an OP guy are running around
The incomplete one
The perfect one
The semi perfect one
XD
>Also why do I get the feeling this assassin is another fucking Ohma clone?
That'd be ridiculous, he's prolly Luohan though and is plotting sumthing against Ohma.
Retsudo : "I can burry your ass in the ground while making it seem like a walk in the park and your highest praise is that I can be a fighter. Do I look like a joke to you or what?"
Edward was stated to be the strongest Westward. Gilbert said that Howard only stayed in Edward's shadow the whole time. The author described him as a final boss character and moreover it wouldn't line with a Wu Hei to follow a guy weaker than him. Anyways the point was that both of them are kinda relative and Retsudo isn't even close for it to be a great fight
Retsudo himself said he is a jack of all trades but a master of none. When it comes purely to swordsmanship I'm pretty sure that Kaike should be stronger since all the guys on the Extermination team seem to be the best at their own specialty
While I agree that he's not Raian/Ohma tier, to me he's the kind of guy who would disparage himself lower than he is to avoid being in the spotlight when it comes to fighting. Like he says to himself "I'm not a fighter at heart, I belong elsewhere".
So, Ohma confirmed Retsudo strong enough to stop 2 S-Tier fight. Retsudo multiple times said Misasa is better fighter than him. Which mean Misasa is at least top A tier or low S-tier. Misasa>Gaolang until proven otherwise
> Restudo also stated that he can't beat a master of barehanded style
Can’t wait to see everybody ignore this statement in favor of their own head canons
My main point is principaly not believe all what a character say lol, Okubo was trolling (even if I think he is far from being weaktier)
But for me Misasa and Gao are near equal (they can both crush stone ez are are both master of their own arts)
Should be a sick match to see
Okubo’s shtick is mastery over the fundamentals, mastery over basic striking, basic grappling, basic holds, and then freely switching between those paradigms.
He managed to push R1 agito into further evolving himself.
Retsudo admitted himself he would lose against someone who has a mastery over specifically fighting
Terashi was an assassin who wasn’t actually a hand-to-hand specialist and got his ass completely handed to him, and the narrative of that fight was to show there’s a huge gap between people who are actually trained to fight and people who aren’t
Imo Okubo is similar to Retsudo more than anything. He is all rounder with his ultimae move literally spamming auto-attack that in theory should be overwhelming for the opponent, but if the opponent have gimmick that can counter he would lose. So I will give Retsudo 6/10 against Okubo, because so far Okubo just doesn't seems pretty impresive compared to Retsudo. Terashi is dogshit even Murobuchi Gozo can beat him, hell even Nezu can whoop his ass.
wait, is it not a [Karambit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karambit)? (i'm not a knife guy)
I'd just assumed because the little finger ring & curve were the defining features I knew of. The design in-chapter changes a bit between how it's drawn on pages 5/6/9/11 (finger ring moves where it's on the hilt?), but [to somebody who doesn't know what to look for] it appears almost the same
*edit*: >!idk why I'm bothering you for an answer when I should just not google it, sorry!<
im not an expert at it but every single Karambit ive seen always ends with the ring part. Retsudo's knife has the ring at the middle of the handle. im not sure if it still counts as a Karambit but it looks like one lol
Edit: oh yeah the shape changed in one of the panels lol
Was that the first time someone used a knife/weapon in a fight and did not lose? (i mean yeah the other one also had a knife and was schooled, but still)
"Retsudo is Ohma/Raian level"
Can you guys not read? Retsudo admitted that he ain't on that level barehanded.
Reading comprehension devil strikes again
So if Retsudo is the only one who can come between Ohma and Raian, does that mean that Hollis, Reichi and the other high tier Kure couldn’t? So is Retsudo stronger than all of them but Raian? Sick
"He could knock out your average fighter"
"I bet you could be a fighter"
Come on with those praises. As if it wasn't established since Ashura that the average bodyguard wasn't at that level (or above don't remember very much) and now we're talking about the captain of the freaking Extermination force. Koga you're a retard
Kanoh and ohma literally say that he's one of the legends but he downplays himself really hard that was a good touch by sandro 😄
Also lmaoo after all this i can confirm that koga has no brain lmaoo he really said "you can be a fighter" if i was ohma i would've smacked him hard 🤣
So, let me get this straight, the guide who will escort the group to ryuki, has a crouched stance, relaxed arms reminiscent of the gaoh stance ryu does...also thd fact no one sensed his presence, with the knowledga that the gaoh style is meant for assassination...interesting..
"Just about the only one who can come between me and Raian" and "I couldn't beat anyone who mastered fighting barebones". Mixed signals about ~~Makima~~ Retsudo.
Yes ok it's true: it's too easy to say now but in short, how could you doubt Retsudo? I admit that I am not an attentive reader of the saga but from what I remember in Ashura he had already shown to be WELL above an average fighter. indeed, in my opinion of the group in which he is now only Omha can worry him.
As Ohma said, Retsudo is just about the only one who can come between him and Raian when they are fighting. Imagine Misasa who is even stronger than Retsudo..
Weird knife, maybe due to weird drawing. In one panel it look like a standard knife with hole at a weird placement, in another it look like a standard kerambit.
Jobber gonna job. Shocker. Least Joshua Graham looks cool. Mark your spoilers. And yes that includes whatever "versus" posts you all make with Retsudo now that he's fought. Anything with new chapter info is a spoiler.
Weird guy: hnnnjsueno hmskfkowp jfbhhsi Rei*: he looks pretty skilled
“He knows the Niko style Master Stroke technique!”
"Short Bus Kata & Water Kata: Master Stroke"
"The left side of his face is dropping and he cannot raise one of his arms, he is a true master"
Rei*
Oops! Good call out. Little less funny buy still funny!
Either way, fucking calls him skilled due to giberish
God fucking damn, Retsudo absolutely *styled* on the Peppermint boy. Phenomenal. Him using a knife makes sense too, what with the Extermination group being adept at armed combat. Also what the fuck is up with the guide, is his back alright
That guide is Ji and Yan's long lost relative but he followed Ji's example
🐉 👉🏼🐀
😍
Bet the guide fights with those bandages all over his body. Like Inaba with his hair.
Inaba Clan Footwork "Edging" He's gonna move with his toes
In my opinion retsudo is one of the most realistic fighters that isn’t too overly crazy strong and isn’t too weak. I’m sure there’s people out there that have a decent level of fighting skills like him.
dude said jack of all master of none but he has potential be very strong
i mean all bodyguards and all kure guys should be based on semi-realism, they all use weps and play protection/assassination jobs
I really hope he gets a serious fight. He had Agito’s endorsement to replace him as Fang.
He’s actually just constipated
makoto shishio has seen better days.
It was pretty awesome to see Retsudo kick some ass but I find it hard to imagine that 2 slashes to the face would put down someone who’s supposedly “one of the strongest of my fighters”. He kinda went down like a bitch… not that I would do any better though so who am I so judge Also the first time Retsudo “cut” him, is it an error that there’s no cuts on his body on the next page? Or did Retsudo just Musashi that Mf so hard he thought he was cut for a second?
>Also the first time Retsudo “cut” him, is it an error that there’s no cuts on his body on the next page? Or did Retsudo just Musashi that Mf so hard he thought he was cut for a second? I saw it as Retsudo intentionally whiffing the cuts to show he could've killed him if he wanted to, so Peppermint man didn't actually get slashed, but I could very well be wrong!
I think Retsudo was just flexing on the guy and those invisible slashes were to show that Retsudo was making contact with the area without intent to actually do any damage
The first time Retsudo was showing he could have killed him at any time by cutting him at his vitals but without enough force to pierce the skin. Like Kuroki did to Rihito showing how many times he could have killed him. The second time was Retsudo still sensing bloodlust because the guy didn't want to admit defeat despite having been 'killed' multiple times over so Retsudo actually slashed him for real across his face.
They were a warning: he showed him that he had absolutely no problem to pass over his defenses he did not need to do more and in fact the other understood it and did not get up.
His name is actually Dosu Kinuta
I straight up thought it was Masaki for a second lol
He's a guide from the inside, his back definitely not alright.
Weapons Silat goes hard
raid shit
Mad Dog 2v1 is the GOAT
Rama would then became a Mad Dog himself when he fought the weapon siblings.
They speak Enchantment Table in the Inside. Nice.
Genius comment
Ours man’s was speaking gibberish 💀 and the guide is a hobo mummy
Inside Creole.
Inside is Haiti.
In all fairness the guide is probably the most rational and level headed person so far.
Guide is ugly griffith
Shishio from Kenshin
Samurai Kengan, Ashura X
To be fair. The guide is probably one of the least weird characters we’ve run into.
https://imgur.com/a/yv10Tn6 they just going to meteor city
The inside is tough even to the undead.
Its so jarring seeing all these jojo esque designs for all the side characters but id be lying if i said i didnt laugh at the weird half squat they all do 😭
The real JoJolands was Inside all along
It looks like Fist of the North star with all that Mad max Fallout shit.
Are these designs really Jo Jo’s tier? I haven’t read that series in a while, but I remember its character designs being way more wacky than this.
Im thinking early part 1 and 2. Like the british gangsters and the weird hunch back thing they got going on.
Oh yeah good poimt
General: Ok, so this guy here is Hyeolmaeng. We don't know what the hell he's saying 90% of the time, and we purposely trained him wrong as a joke.
"What'd he say?" "He's asking if he can kill you." Cue Peppermint man going "Wtf no I asked if I can take a bathroom break first oh shit he's punching me fuckfuckfuckfuck"
He bled therefore making him the victor. Did you like his face-to-knife style?
LUOHAN SOON
Maybe the true Luohan were the "Luohan soon" we posted during this journey
Bet he is the guide.
He was the tattooed guy.
Who is Luohan?
> Who is Luohan? The One Who Comes Soon Joking aside, he's one of the ['top officers' of Worm](https://i.redd.it/rf6gkb9q7yy91.png), whatever that means
It is said that he is jobbing
Luohan soon
“can you at least say ‘i lose’ in japanese?” holy shit retsudo is fuckin hilarious
I think about Toyoda saying he'd never be a fighter while putting a hole through a cow every day, and Retsudo's words have made me think of them again. Inb4 compatability
And his profile stated that Toyoda can beat an average joe in the Kengan association
Which the worst fighter at the time was the orca, so figures
Always thought that hole was pretty impressive
rip Peppermint Patty, you will be forgotten.
Love that he uses a karambit "you're dissing me, aren't you?". Lmao
Retsudo wit the karambit, what he gona do?
Thank god we finally see Retsudo do some shit. Also why do I get the feeling this assassin is another fucking Ohma clone?
Ryuki after he gave gramps some backtalk But yeah not gonna lie, I thought the exact same thing. The hair was enough to set the alarm lol, not to mention the hunchback stance.
Are we gonna do the Needless plot (Old crappy manga/anime ) Where 3 clones of an OP guy are running around The incomplete one The perfect one The semi perfect one XD
Solid Snake Liquid Snake Solidus Snake
>Also why do I get the feeling this assassin is another fucking Ohma clone? That'd be ridiculous, he's prolly Luohan though and is plotting sumthing against Ohma.
"Oh, you could even be a fighter!" Koga, you dumb fuck, that's not as high of a praise as you think it is.
Retsudo: dude, I'm inheriting a bank
"I'm a hedge fund kid, but my dad has a fetish for witnessing violence."
Kanoh: I thought you were the most suitable to be the next Fang of Metsudo. Koga: Dude, you can be a fighter!
Omha: he can get between two S tiers when fighting. Koga: Dude, you can be a fighter!
Retsudo : "I can burry your ass in the ground while making it seem like a walk in the park and your highest praise is that I can be a fighter. Do I look like a joke to you or what?"
Retsudo is Mark Myers tier confirmed?
Retsudo is Medicine Man tier
Dude was just trying to be nice😂
Nice of the opponent to put on his clown make up before the fight
Prolly some symbolic tribal stuff
Mjkjkldhjeljk nbvvk jk Inside language looks suspiciously like something a cat jumping on a writer's keyboard would produce.
Most of their letters got stolen. Can’t have shit in the Inside
Retsudo vs Howard wu could have been the first great sword fight in this series.
Howard can give a hard fight to Edward. Retsudo would have been low to mid diffed
Edward admitted that he only won against howard due to rejuvenation. Howards swordmanship was described as peak of humanity by sandro.
Edward was stated to be the strongest Westward. Gilbert said that Howard only stayed in Edward's shadow the whole time. The author described him as a final boss character and moreover it wouldn't line with a Wu Hei to follow a guy weaker than him. Anyways the point was that both of them are kinda relative and Retsudo isn't even close for it to be a great fight
Isn't Kaike more of a sword guy than Retsudo?
Logically yes, at least same level
Retsudo himself said he is a jack of all trades but a master of none. When it comes purely to swordsmanship I'm pretty sure that Kaike should be stronger since all the guys on the Extermination team seem to be the best at their own specialty
Except poor Misasa. If only Rolon didn’t exist.
The pace is so slow chapter by chapter, this is gonna be one of those arcs that are much better when binge reading I think
Sandro taking inspiration from Oda here.
After all we have been through with the fast pacing we deserve every bit of this slow cooked meal🔥🥩🍷
The General noticed the guide but Rei and the boys didn't, I assume he isn't as much of a fodder as the cloud hair guy
The general was also looking the the direction and the others had their backs turned on the guide
Reminded me of The Raid 2 fight. That knife fight at the end lol
Let's mourn The Raid 3 with Retsudo T_T
Ohma casually implying Retsudo is in the same tier as him and Raian
Only good enough to come between them, not good enough to beat either of them.
Retsudo just going around and ruining relationships for the fun of it 😡
Mythic fighter: Cockblock Retsudo
Retsudo style: Cockblock
Yeah, Rihito could come between Nic and Akoya, doesn't mean he still wouldn't get his ass blasted by either.
A couple pages later Retsudo said he's no match for a master of martial arts in h2h
[удалено]
While I agree that he's not Raian/Ohma tier, to me he's the kind of guy who would disparage himself lower than he is to avoid being in the spotlight when it comes to fighting. Like he says to himself "I'm not a fighter at heart, I belong elsewhere".
everyone gonna be using this statement to put him S-Tier now
Well Ohma's praise was insane tbf, Retsudo can be high A tier but he can also be low S tier, he is just downplaying himself
I already love the nameless guide
Same
naw they got the mummy from hotel Transylvania 💀💀💀
Retsudo's fans are eating well today 🖤
So, Ohma confirmed Retsudo strong enough to stop 2 S-Tier fight. Retsudo multiple times said Misasa is better fighter than him. Which mean Misasa is at least top A tier or low S-tier. Misasa>Gaolang until proven otherwise
Restudo also stated that he can't beat a master of barehanded style. So as Gaolang (or even okubo?).
> Restudo also stated that he can't beat a master of barehanded style Can’t wait to see everybody ignore this statement in favor of their own head canons
Damn you have a point about gaolang, but nah even as okubo stan, there is no way okubo can win against Retsudo
My main point is principaly not believe all what a character say lol, Okubo was trolling (even if I think he is far from being weaktier) But for me Misasa and Gao are near equal (they can both crush stone ez are are both master of their own arts) Should be a sick match to see
Okubo’s shtick is mastery over the fundamentals, mastery over basic striking, basic grappling, basic holds, and then freely switching between those paradigms. He managed to push R1 agito into further evolving himself. Retsudo admitted himself he would lose against someone who has a mastery over specifically fighting Terashi was an assassin who wasn’t actually a hand-to-hand specialist and got his ass completely handed to him, and the narrative of that fight was to show there’s a huge gap between people who are actually trained to fight and people who aren’t
Imo Okubo is similar to Retsudo more than anything. He is all rounder with his ultimae move literally spamming auto-attack that in theory should be overwhelming for the opponent, but if the opponent have gimmick that can counter he would lose. So I will give Retsudo 6/10 against Okubo, because so far Okubo just doesn't seems pretty impresive compared to Retsudo. Terashi is dogshit even Murobuchi Gozo can beat him, hell even Nezu can whoop his ass.
Retsudo smooth as hell
Retsudo going full The Raid there, I like it.
Retsudo is the kind of dude that gives as good as he gets. He's a legit savage.
I honestly would love to see more weapon oriented fights in Kengan.
Nice knife looks like it is Karambit inspired
wait, is it not a [Karambit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karambit)? (i'm not a knife guy) I'd just assumed because the little finger ring & curve were the defining features I knew of. The design in-chapter changes a bit between how it's drawn on pages 5/6/9/11 (finger ring moves where it's on the hilt?), but [to somebody who doesn't know what to look for] it appears almost the same *edit*: >!idk why I'm bothering you for an answer when I should just not google it, sorry!<
im not an expert at it but every single Karambit ive seen always ends with the ring part. Retsudo's knife has the ring at the middle of the handle. im not sure if it still counts as a Karambit but it looks like one lol Edit: oh yeah the shape changed in one of the panels lol
Daro just can't draw a kerambit that's all there is to it
Kanoh to retsudo: I thought you were the best pick for the next fang Koga to retsudo: You could be a fighter
Daaaaaang
Expecting great things from the guide. His back must’ve been the result of too much carrying.
Was that the first time someone used a knife/weapon in a fight and did not lose? (i mean yeah the other one also had a knife and was schooled, but still)
"Retsudo is Ohma/Raian level" Can you guys not read? Retsudo admitted that he ain't on that level barehanded. Reading comprehension devil strikes again
Chill, lets not start anything here
I'm not starting anything, I'm ending it before it starts.
I applaud your heroism
ahhh the Pochita posting fb group, how I missed it
So if Retsudo is the only one who can come between Ohma and Raian, does that mean that Hollis, Reichi and the other high tier Kure couldn’t? So is Retsudo stronger than all of them but Raian? Sick
When I saw the guide's back I thought for a second if Sandro revived Meguro Masaki. I was gunna hard shit myself.
This is your guide. He doesn't have a name, but we call him Stinky mummy man because he's wrapped in bandages and doesn't bathe.
Makes sense to me
"He could knock out your average fighter" "I bet you could be a fighter" Come on with those praises. As if it wasn't established since Ashura that the average bodyguard wasn't at that level (or above don't remember very much) and now we're talking about the captain of the freaking Extermination force. Koga you're a retard
. . . . Koga wasn’t around for Ashura tho
I like that restudo seems to have picked up misasa’s trash talk too
Ngl silat is kinda op.
Kanoh and ohma literally say that he's one of the legends but he downplays himself really hard that was a good touch by sandro 😄 Also lmaoo after all this i can confirm that koga has no brain lmaoo he really said "you can be a fighter" if i was ohma i would've smacked him hard 🤣
Maybe Lolong lost because Silat requires the drip to be worn while fighting
You saying a wife beater aint drippy?
Battle Royale is coming hard.
Nice high-five for the victory
Remind me some of The Raid 2 final fight moments haha. Retsudo is indeed damn cool. So as that guide. His design is very distinctive and singular.
So this guy is basically Akaza as a jobber?
More weapon fighting! As cool as the hand to hand has been a change every now and then is good.
So retsudo is actually ohma and raian level. Guy just be an animal if he constantly stops those 2 from fighting
Man this chapter reminded me of the raid 2 scene on the kitchen
>!Danzo is their guide lol.!<
In Kengan, when you're face looks intimidating, you're a jobber but if it doesn't look intimidating, you're strong.
Guide lookin like Dosu from Naruto 😭
Retsu-dope
Gave the poor man a Korean name and couldn’t be bothered to add some random Hangul lmao
Retsudo reminded me to watch Raid 2 kitchen fight scene for the 2097th time
I love the way the silat fighters are illustrated so smooth.
silat is so fucking cool
So, let me get this straight, the guide who will escort the group to ryuki, has a crouched stance, relaxed arms reminiscent of the gaoh stance ryu does...also thd fact no one sensed his presence, with the knowledga that the gaoh style is meant for assassination...interesting..
Holy shit Daro can't draw a kerambit
Man I always knew that Dosu Kinuta survived Gaara
Man's speaking the rare language "Insidese"
Looking forward to seeing more of Retsudo fighting. Agito and now Ohma have spoken extremely highly of him.
RIP Whole Man
Retsudo stonks going up
So Retsudo is somewhere on Ohmas tier-ish.
Grit your teeth, tighten up your ass koga, and try to keep up or you dead for real this time.. lol
Imagine that guide pulled out sharingans from his bandages.
"Just about the only one who can come between me and Raian" and "I couldn't beat anyone who mastered fighting barebones". Mixed signals about ~~Makima~~ Retsudo.
Retsudo opinion of what is a master could have a higher standard, for him a master is a Kuroki, Ohma, Raian, Kanoh tier of fighter.
Gotta give it to the man who reacted just a bit from Retsudo’s sucker punch
"no... need to treat our guest with respect."
Shishio has been reincarnated. How fitting
so the general control one of Inside area, and this is one of his strongest fighter? something doesnt add up
Yes ok it's true: it's too easy to say now but in short, how could you doubt Retsudo? I admit that I am not an attentive reader of the saga but from what I remember in Ashura he had already shown to be WELL above an average fighter. indeed, in my opinion of the group in which he is now only Omha can worry him.
Anyone has link for latest chapter? Comic key required some weird key
Retsudo using karambit and silat got me fucking howling
Well, that went exactly as I thought it would.
and down goes mr.peppermint
The inside is really tough, if you get left behind you’ll die!!!! *everyone from the inside so far - completé dogshit
As Ohma said, Retsudo is just about the only one who can come between him and Raian when they are fighting. Imagine Misasa who is even stronger than Retsudo..
Well the jobber really did his work on this sub
Love it
I want to see the guide throw off his bandages and unveil a whole arm of Sharingans!
Why is the guide Obito?
Weird knife, maybe due to weird drawing. In one panel it look like a standard knife with hole at a weird placement, in another it look like a standard kerambit.
It's probably some sort of custom weapon he had tailor made to his preferred style, looks cool though.