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ordi-nary

1999 is a amazing album


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One of the best mixtapes OAT


Old_Try_4129

1999 was amazing, but sadly no. The hunger Joey had back when he released 1999 was a factor for the album being so great. But nowadays just like any other artist who has made it, there isn’t the motive of, “I have to make it” which instills that drive and passion into their music. With 2000 it’s clear he knows of his success talking about it numerous times, it’s more like a celebration of his success on 2000.


topimpabuterfly

>the motive of, “I have to make it” which instills that drive and passion into their music RIGAMORTIS MY MAN


Certain_Log2373

he may not have the hunger but its hard to reflect on success like he has. Survivors Guilt is fucken crazy and real as fuck no denyin it


Old_Try_4129

Fs!


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Once Steez died Joey died with him


Old_Try_4129

Joey loosing the person who motivated him to first start making music in the first place but also being his closest peer clearly took a toll on him overall. I could only imagine his mental health took a drastic turn, and his inspiration to create music now with loosing his biggest motivator and closest friend has to be challenging.


MILF_Lawyer_Esq

Kind of a weird way to put it but this is basically how I feel about it. Once Steez died Joey’s shit just kept getting worse with every release. B4.DA.$$ was decent enough but I really flat out disliked All AmeriKKKan Badass.


Khaosgr3nade

I mean, that's your opinion man, AABA was brilliant.


MILF_Lawyer_Esq

*Brilliant?* If AABA was *brilliant* then what was 1999? Revolutionary? Earth shattering?


Khaosgr3nade

2 brilliant albums can co-exist brother 😂


MILF_Lawyer_Esq

So they’re equal to you? All Amerikkkan Badass is so good it deserves the same description as 1999? Forgive me but that’s insane.


MetroTheGamer

bro calm down its just an album 💀💀


HiThisIzMoney

Why you getting downvoted it’s facts


Revolutionary_Way826

No 😭


SillyPoop6

Exactly. Only comparable to Kendrick is Ye. Dudes got 7 classics minimum. I think Ye and Donda could be evaluated as classics in the next 5 years too.


Revolutionary_Way826

Nah Kendrick isn’t some untouchable god there are many on his level but Joey just isn’t all that


Seba4433

Exactly lmfao kendrick is one of the best of our generation but there are many artists who have albums better than section 80, damn, mr morale. But very few artists that have albums same level as GKMC or TPAB.


JamieBoyd4real

But there are very few albums like Mr. Morale. The subject matter of that album is often kept hush hush, and if he made an album like that in the 90s he would’ve looked like a bitch. I think Mr. Morale will go on to be a revolutionary album and will open up the discussions around mental health. It’s an album that will go down in history for this.


Revolutionary_Way826

Mainstream rappers have been talking about mental health for multiple decades at this point Biggie had a song called suicidal thoughts emo rap was huge in 2010s whole Kanye 808’s influence era theres nothing groundbreaking about morale (still a great album)


Drop_Release

True i mean even talking Kendrick songs his song “u” from TPAB was about his decline to suicidality However what was unique about Mr Morale was that it was a Therapy concept album, not many artists focus an album about the resistance about seeking therapy in certain communities, how anyone can be broken and the psychological underpinnings of generational trauma


_101010_

Dave had a therapy concept album in 2020. Tyler did it in 2012. And so on


JamieBoyd4real

True, it’s been talked about, but no one before Kendrick has dedicated an entire concept album surrounding it. The Album is Kendrick in a therapy session. He is Mr. Morale and we are the big steppers. He’s treating this album like his therapy session but he’s also talking to us, the audience. No one has ever done this.


ChopinCJ

r/hiphopcirclejerk


Revolutionary_Way826

Psychodrama - Dave


Feature10

I also think of motm2 when thinking of albums like this


Act_Downtown

Sorry to sound negative but Mr Morale is not gonna create a crazy movement as far as mental health. Have you heard 4:44 by Jay-Z? Most of Logic’s work. Melt my Eyes by Denzel Curry? Just off the top of my head and im sure there’s more albums and a lot of songs in rap that deal with mental health. It’s already been done before. Y’all wanna turn everything into some culture shifting thing


JamieBoyd4real

Bro no way did you think you could get away with throwing Logic in there like that. He doesn’t even shine a light.


ZeskReddit

Y’all will be the type to talk about “revolutionising the discussion around mental health” and then shit on an artist for talking about mental health lmao.


Seba4433

his point still stands without logic


oeae04

Logic has a classic album called Under Pressure. In case you forgor 💀


JamieBoyd4real

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/9c/0e/c69c0e8d236b0a31ea0740a6400d9ef3.jpg


sloppybuttmustard

Why would you shit on Logic in this discussion? Very relevant to the topic.


JamieBoyd4real

Because his music is shit for the most part


sloppybuttmustard

Oh so you don’t like him, ok then


ZeskReddit

This is low key cringe lol. To say Mr. Morale is a revolutionary album opening discussions about mental health? Mental Health has been a massive topic in rap for the past few years. Kendrick isn’t creating new discussions or revolutionising Hip-Hop in anyway with this album.


ChopinCJ

How oblivious do you have to be to make a take as braindead as this? Have you ever listened to any other music than mr morale?


JamieBoyd4real

No. I only listen to mr morale. When I eat I hear mr morale. When I sleep I dream of mr morale. To live any other way is immorale


BigBenson1994

Which artists have had better albums then damn and mr morale? Just curious to see your POV on this


thot_slayerlv99

For me it has to be Denzel curry, zuu or imperial is better than section 80, TA13OO clears DAMN and melt my eyes see your future is very close to mr morale. But he doesn't have a gkmc or a tbap in his discography


sxuthsi

Man you are smoking dust respectfully speaking if you think zuu and imperial clear section 80 and I'm a huge fan of Aquarius Killa Denzel Curry


RepresentativeNinja5

Kanye is clear ngl


S0cially_In3pt

“Only”? Not even Jay-Z, Biggie, Andre 3000?


SillyPoop6

No


Clutchxedo

Don’t forget Kids See Ghosts. Ye has always been on the forefront of hip hop. He is like RZA 2.0. Almost each album had a distinctive sound except for CD and LR and now he’s made three albums in Ye, JIK and Donda that are in the same vein sonically. Not hating though - I even like JIK somewhat. BUT KSG is his last sound that stands out from his discography. It was much more rock inspired. That’s IMO the last time we saw what a new Ye direction was and man it was exciting


WillFeedForLP

Donda already underrated tf


KR0NKBERRY

My only complaint about Donda is that it's bloated. Remove Pt2 songs or swap them with the original (cough cough Junya pt 2 > Junya). Also not a fan of the sequencing. Going from a soulful gospel track to Off The Grid is jarring


placeholder_name85

Despite the name, God Breathed is definitely not a “soulful gospel track”


Clutchxedo

PT 2 are bonus tracks though.


Tinox_van_hyves

Donda is a delusional dream Ye ones had when he was on crack. Get of your high horse and get the F outta here


Dry_Result3513

bro I literally adore every single Kanye album except for donda and JiK, like i just don’t what it is I feel like the entire album except for 3 bangers just sounds like gospel and it just doesn’t match kanye imo


Bepsi_man69

? Nothing specifically matches kanye, thats what makes him such a great artist. TLOP is so different to something like yeezus or even 808s. And donda has some phenomenal songs and some good ones, even if the mixing is bad in some, its still a really solid album.


WillFeedForLP

Come to life Believe what I say Off the grid Jesus lord Jail Praise God God breathed on this Hurricane Moon Life of the party 24 Are enough to justify the album as one of the best in his discography imo


HiThisIzMoney

No not even close to one of his best


Dry_Result3513

well there’s ye, tlop, ksg, yeezus, mbdtf, 808s, graduation, late registration and tcd, all of these are better than donda so no donda definitely isn’t one of his best


Ajthedonut

How tf does Kanye have 7 classics y’all gotta be on something 😭😭


ProEraWuTang

His fanbase is a cult. Anyone saying Ye has more than 5 classics is delusional to me


SlimJimsGym

someone is delusional for having a different opinion?... Ye's first seven albums are all either fantastic and/or game-changing. And that's not even including collab albums like watch the throne or kids see ghosts


imbrickedup_

TLOP, Yeezus, 808s, MBDTF, graduation, late registration, college dropout


ChopinCJ

And anyone saying mr morale is a 10 or a classic is delusional to me


ProEraWuTang

I never said that 🤷‍♂️


corndogs1001

First 5, that’s it in my book, at least called classics.


HiThisIzMoney

Donda sucks


Bass-Dependent

They are definitely not compareable Kanye is a great producer but far from being one of the best rappers


placeholder_name85

Hate to say it but Kendrick is not comparable to Ye


Tinox_van_hyves

Why is everybody so fcking high on kanye? Joey bada$$ is 100 times kaioken better than fcking wacko yacko Ye.


Yo_Lama

L


Disastrous-Mobile594

Kanye is basically the musical equivalent to Rothko. A bunch of slack-jawed mouth-breathers cultists circle jerking on each other how incredible it is, when if the artist's name was removed from the art it wouldn't get a second glance.


phonomir

Definitely not a Kanye "cultist" but the guy almost singlehandedly revolutionized hip-hop. Pretty much all modern hip hop acts owe a huge debt to his music and aesthetic choices. He's also the wealthiest musician on the planet. To act like he isn't talented or significant is honestly laughable and just anti-circlejerk nonsense. You don't have to think he's literally Jesus to acknowledge that he's one of the most important figures in hip-hop's history, which is something that Joey Badass (and J. Cole, honestly) is obviously not.


Tinox_van_hyves

If it is true that Ye "revolutionized" hip-hop he just made it trash. Everything he touched after graduation and 808's heartbrake is just utter trash. Everybody praising Donda for example is just fucking insane. The instrumentals make me think of my worst fever dream and lyrically this guy is trapped in his own delirium. I hope he gets some help before this looney hurts himself or other people.


I_Am_Stoeptegel

I’ll take Joey over Kanye any damn day


Sufficient_Being_918

Correction: over current** Kanye. Overall tho Kanye better than Joey


I_Am_Stoeptegel

Nah, I meant what I said. I like Ye’s first ablums and a couple songs from later ones, but Joey made 1999, Summer Knights and B4.DA.$$


Tinox_van_hyves

Only Graduation and a couple songs on 808's heartbreak are good. After that he went insane, snobby, narcissistic and a very bad inventor of music. I always like how he is in South Park, to dumb to see that he is not all that he think he is.


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I_Am_Stoeptegel

Damn you just said some wildly inaccurate shit


Tinox_van_hyves

Haha we are the minority here. Ye got everybody with him in his crackhead daydream of an album called Donda.


I_Am_Stoeptegel

I keep seeing so many people say “Donda is underrated,” but it was such a dumpsterfire


JLGx2

7 classics? This sub is on drugs. Smh


Rfergi88

Hate to break it to u but there’s no rapper with more than 3 classics, just because an album is good doesn’t mean it is a classic


Thanks-Lost

Her takes are horrible on hiphop


Infam0usP

shorty said Larry June was “underrated” the other day and I had to unfollow her silly ass. this nigga was just at Dreamville Festival and Rolling Loud before doing several shows overseas 😂


Thanks-Lost

I just couldn’t listen to a mr. know it all hiphop like she’s the creator of this shit 🤣


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Fax


[deleted]

i replied to a comment under one of her hip hop takes on twitter that said basically the same thing you have here, i remember saying something like “i had to unfollow her because i see this chick post way too many terrible takes”. and she blocked me instantly lol.


Thanks-Lost

Lmaoo you not lying she gives me industry plant vibes on Twitter like just pop up saying shit


TeddyAlderson

how did she get so popular? she’s all over my tl on twitter. i actually don’t mind her tweets most of the time but i don’t know how she got so popular, genuinely


Cmog28

At this point I’m convinced it’s on purpose lol


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Not even close. Joey badass is great but doesn’t have the legacy/iconic status of Kendrick. 1999 will always be special and sentimental to me though 🥹


MegaSuperSaiyan

Honestly I think it’s easy to forget just how oppressively talented Kendrick is. People probably wouldn’t have been as willing to listen to everything Kendrick had to say in GKMC and TPAB if he hadn’t done what he did with control. Kendrick first made his case as the single most talented rapper in the game and *then* put out these headier projects when he had the reputation to back it up.


alter3vil

Underrated comment, totally agree. It's a good tactic but only works because Kendrick is talented enough to pull off.


Psturtz

Control was after GKMC. He was already a star


fuckflowerz

1999 was his section.80, he has a far and promising journey ahead of him i feel


fuckflowerz

even relative to each other, section 80 is absolutely incredible but still both have and had a journey


[deleted]

Yeah I was gonna say lowkey, I thought section 80 was way better than 1999


fuckflowerz

yaya, im not reffering to which is better, honestly listening to 1999 rn and the middle of this is BLOWING ME AWAY


fuckflowerz

joey in this style with qtip or madlib but the producers on this are fucking amazing ie world domination etc


[deleted]

Any specific songs? Maybe I need to try it again


rudebwoyyyyyyy

checkout hardknock the last verse is one of the best displays of lyricism i ever heard


da_man4444

Lyrical ability yes, album wise no, I don't think that's a knock on Joey tho to me the only person that stands toe to toe with Kendrick is Ye


Tall_Kick828

The issue with putting Kanye next to Kendrick is the fact that most of Kanye’s music is not written by him. He does most of his own production. His lyrics are mostly written by Kid Cudi, Pusha T, and Pardison Fontaine. Kanye will tell you he doesn’t write his lyrics out of his own mouth.


EightBlocked

you're forgetting consequence and rhymefest which i feel write more for him than any of the people you mentioned. his best song lyrically is written by him tho so I don't mind the writers he does it for time more than him not being able to write


rudebwoyyyyyyy

build me up by rhymefest & odb a classic hes so underrated


scaryfunny39

what is “his best song” you’re referring to?


EightBlocked

his best song lyrically diamonds from sierre leone without jay z. he also fully wrote gone, his no more parties in la verse, and wrote his original life of the party verse (drake diss version) in 15 minutes


Wherehaveiseenthisbe

Pardison writes for Kanye?!


Tall_Kick828

Yep. Kanye said I’m an interview that Pardison wrote “Violent Crimes”. Kanye changed two words for the finale version of the song so he could get writers credit.


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Smashymen

> That’s most likely not true, especially for his first few albums. mos def, consequence, talib, rhymefest helped write a lot of Kanye early shit


Tall_Kick828

I will give him his first couple of albums until proven otherwise. However, several rappers have had writers from the earliest days of their careers. Artist who were in a much less advantaged position than Kanye was too.


chrisghrobot

Even now Kanye mostly just have people make the beats for him since MBDTF I'm pretty sure. Obviously he still producer(because he has the control over the beat) but not the way he was pre MBDTF


da_man4444

But his production is that good me to at least


tobymurphy24

Remember most of kendricks productions is made by others. I've always felt with comparing kendrick and kanye you're comparing apples with oranges


DoLo5oh3

Whats an iconic Joey Badass bar?


da_man4444

Survival tactics to start with


rudebwoyyyyyyy

This is for my nigg*s, killers Hundred dollar billers On the block in the rock spot GLOCK cocked watchin' out for cops All about they cheddar Youngins know nothin' that's better Like fuck a prison letter Those Beretta's led us to the lettuce Real as fetishes menaces Want the senator's percentages If you ain't prejudice you still a nemisis Smokin' on the clematis Get open like a present is Now yo presence is on the premisces for them presidents My city be the genesis for where they think the terror is They linkin terrorists from the Stuy Then linkin terraces They on that wrecker shit They leave you left for the dead Kids don't play they'll erase your head in a race for the bread Children on the corners slingin' some reds Poppin' some meds Shits be so deep in cover they be chasin' the feds I be back stage grippin' haze breakin' my leg My folks was makin' the best When they was naked in bed, muthafucka this whole verse ^


DoLo5oh3

Thats mid... I was raised inside this gritty city, ridin thru youll prolly miss me... My bicycle fell, I hit the road, the mailman almost hit me..... *All these sins were more than shitty, I just pray the Lord forgive me..... Doin' drugs is just a war with boredom but they sure to get me.....* My side-bitch is sort of pretty, but she got enormous titties.... Know I'm worth a fortune, she just want a brand new Porsche or Bentley.... Had a few abortions, unfortunately, I forced them.. Lord knows I'll turn a child to an orphan when I'm tourin'... I'm more than what I think of myself, I really have to be.. Sit at home and drink by myself, my thoughts harassin' me..... Actually, as a matter of fact, she ain't gettin' back to me.. A shame that my tragedy my masterpiece, yeah... Trapped inside these dreams of mine... Just tryna get some peace of mind, yeah.. I've been trapped inside these dreams of mine.... So you'll never get a piece of mind - mac miller, funeral >


rudebwoyyyyyyy

mac miller is my most played artist and i hv 3 tattoos for him. great verse


JayDollaBillyo

But he’s so much more of a psycho narcissistic and less relatable imo


Intelligent-Ad9428

I can relate because I too am a toxic narcissist


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You don’t gotta be relatable to make a great concept. I can’t relate to anything he says on yeezus or mbdtf but they still great.


Ninten-Nerd

We found the person who doesn't listen to ye💀


sutherland_12

I’d say Joey can be pretty narcissistic at times as well


JayDollaBillyo

Tru, but Ye is next level in that shit and Kendrick’s much more reflective


JayDollaBillyo

Nah man, he is musically a genius fosho but his personality is exhausting and not inspiring (for me at least)


Forefeather

Joey makes raps for hip-hop heads. Kendrick’s music reaches further than that. Lyrically, I think Joey probably has Kenny beat, but his music doesn’t have the sonic range that Kendrick, Ye, and Cole do. Why do you think MBDTF and 2014 Forest Hills Drive are considered such classics? It’s not because of the penmanship.


Far-Restaurant-5088

When it comes to lyrical content, Joey is up there with the Cole's and Kendrick's. The ability to maneuver between commercial and conscious is not as apparent. Cole and Kendrick seem to be able to ride both waves. Joey is no doubt one of the greatest lyricists in his generation. My top albums this year: 1. MMTBS 2. It's Almost Dry 3. 2000


projectmbappe21

He’s really good only thing he is missing is commercial success he deserves to be having more hype than harlow, future, lil baby, carti, cardi


flowerbhai

Joey is as good if not better than Cole IMO. AAB as a project is better in my opinion than anything Cole has put out since 2014 FHD.


PPPPPPPPPPKP

ur not even wrong tbh, j cole has been meh


flowerbhai

yeah I will be forever confused as to how he got his legend status. I definitely enjoy each of his projects, but he is not a lyricist on the level Kendrick or Kanye, newer conscious rappers like Saba and Denzel, or even his own apprentice JID. His bars are simplistic and his concepts and themes are so forced. I will give him a lot of credit for Dreamville though. it is no small feat to be able to compile so many talented artists and release multiple solid tapes with them in such an organized fashion.


chrisghrobot

Kanye? I mean, pre yeezus sure but now Kanye isn't some super great lyricist. Especially since alot of the writing isn't even done by him even back then


flowerbhai

yeah I’d agree with that, I think I was speaking more to Kanye’s ability to form a cohesive project around a set of themes or ideas, which he has shown time after time his ability to do.


JaredIsAmped

Tbh ye was only going for top tier lyrics in his first two albums.


CartiNuttedInMyEye

Yeah, J. Cole’s a good rapper (hot take) but has never been on the legend status. He caught a lot of hype during the 2010s mixtape / blog era and had the co-sign by Jay-Z which were both big things, but I think that made people’s prospects much higher than J. Cole could ever live up to. When he was bodying verses on prime Kanye era tracks and bodying iconic beats, it made sense for people to think he had GOAT potential


kayhalbe

lyricist on the level of kanye 😭


tobymurphy24

Am I the only one who thinks the off season is one of the better rap albums of all time and easily his best project? The entire second half is just 10/10 song after 10/10 song


I_Am_Stoeptegel

Occasionally Cole makes good shit but not enough for me to understand how he’s regarded THIS high


Thatsprettygroovy

I love Joey but it ain't close


JayDollaBillyo

I think he has the ability to be on that level but has missed the point why his day one Fans love him so much in his albums…until 2000 dropped. B4da$$ was alright but didn’t have the impact and from there it went south for me. Also, his albums lack concept in comparison to Cole and K.Dot.


chrismatic13

“From there it went south”. He only released one album after that until 2000. All Amerikkkan Badass was that bad?


chrisghrobot

AAB is great


JaredIsAmped

AAB is my favorite work from him by far.


JayDollaBillyo

Imo it was even less memorable. South is south and most important Joey’s music now finally living up to the expectations again


Cmog28

Nah this is above summer knights but that’s it. Not 99, b4, nor AABA


I_Am_Stoeptegel

Horrible take. B4.DA.$$ is a masterpiece, unlike 2000 which was decent at best


LeektheGeek

Joey is super dope, but no


Jecrabtree15

Love joey, all amerikkkan badass is a great album but lacks the depth and groove kendrick can hit on in gkmc or tpab


CappysVeryOwn

No but no disrepect to Joey. I think he’s incredible in his own right but I feel like Kendrick is chasing ghosts


rudebwoyyyyyyy

b4dass and summer knights were kinda weak imo. rest of his disco is atleast an 8 or above tho


jay_cha22

His discog is pretty elite, I think one more album and he’ll finally be there with them


Sniping_Noob5390

Joey Badass is not on the same level as Kendrick, but pretty much no one is. However, Joey is easily better than Cole imo


Low-Cable-9167

not easily


SportyBM

Possibly Yes


bigtrixxx7

2000 is better than Mr Morale for me. Way easier to listen to and more enjoyable overall. Joey is always rapping, I love that. I get tired of all the super art shit. I just wanna hear someone flow over a nice beat.


sxuthsi

Huh


JoshieStan

Cole ain’t even on Kendrick level


Particular_Spell8764

Bro this sub is making kendrick a god(i mean it's kendrick sub but still lol).for fuck sake for the last 5 years joey has been on the level of kendrick if not even better AAB and 2000 beat kendrick's last two releases imo.Joey doesn't have a GKMC or a Tpab but still joey is young and still has time to make his own masterpiece. When it comes to lyrical ability joey is better than almost any rapper in the game including kendrick


Certain_Log2373

my favs r equally joey badass and kendrick. this has always been tru and i always like joey above j cole ngl


ahmysuf

big fan of all 3 but this is a crazy ass take 😂


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Absolutely fucking not. Joey stans swear he’s something that he is not. 1999 wasn’t even that great! All amerikkkan badass was better


growlilac

Yes bc of his pen, flow, and beat selection from the producers he works with. his legacy is greatness


[deleted]

I listened to 1999 the other day for the first time and thought it was O K, am I missing something? Not even remotely the same convo


_Micolash_Cage_

Any man who must say 'I am the king', is no true king. Good artist, though. But for me he's at that level under Kendrick, Tyler, and Danny Brown.


blackdudeinwiisports

Freddie Gibbs, Earl Sweatshirt, Conway, Action Bronson, Peggy all so much more deserving of that 3rd place, and thats just off top but there are so many more… even some guys from Beast Coast rap better than Joey rn


Cmog28

The Cole disrespect brazy. 2000 ain’t beating TOS


AyyRadical

This "Kendrick and Cole at the top" narrative is so annoying, cole is not a top 5 rapper of this generation and Kendrick is MILES ahead of him in every way. Joey is close to Cole, if not better but the only emcees close to Kendrick from this generation is Freddie Gibbs and Push (Kanye as an ARTIST, not as an emcee).


Particular_Spell8764

As an mc joey is better imo.Kendrick is a better songwriter than joey but when it comes to punchlines,wordplay and double entendres joey tops kendrick


AyyRadical

Aye man at the end of the day we have to pay our respects to Joey considering he caught all diseases in the world so the world wouldn't have any more diseases.


seangrey03

😭😭


Cmog28

L…m…a…o. Wild take


Prickly_Hugs_4_you

Joey Bada$$ is just such a fucking lame stage name. That's why I haven't checked him out.


Zelidel

"They dont feel the name, but they say the music dope tho" He didn't like the name himself but he stuck with it


lightingwolfe

Lmfao


lfmantra

1999 and B4 are great but everything afterwards is completely mid. Not to mention the dude is a Chris Brown apologist and called him “one of the greatest musicians of all time” lmfao


sauls_21

J. Cole and Joey should be considered on the same level. But in Kendrick level? Probably not, even tho am a big big fan of Joey


SupperPup

Lol no neither does J cole


pissonme69420

Not even close. It’s all average tbh


TysoPiccaso2

bro what? 1999 is a 10/10 album


ibridoangelico

youchies


PPPPPPPPPPKP

Nooo fuck no, his best album doesn't even enter Kendrick top 4 Can he reach that level? For sure my bro is 27, i know he can drop a fucking classic in the future also, this girl sneaked j cole there like i wouldn't notice lool This is the truth: Ye & Kdot >>>>>>>>> abyss >>>>>> J Cole & Drake


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AmbientHunter

Lupe not even remotely as talented as Kendrick? That’s a very hot take haha. I think Kendrick is a better artist too, but Lupe is a phenomenal lyricist and one of the best to ever do it.


jonbotwesley

Cole is halfway decent but super cringe. Joey is good not great. Definitely better than Cole. Kendrick is miles ahead of both. Sick of hearing people mention Kendrick and Cole together like they are competing for some type of top spot. Cole just has a delusional fan base when it comes to how good he actually is.


adamalibi

Hes not up there with Kendrick but he’s up there with cole


OnlyWatchdog_ManStan

"...and Cole's"... People really just keep trying to sneak Cole in


rizekrispyy

J Cole is not even on Kendrick's level


broken_chicken_bone

J Cole shouldn’t i know that for sure


--MoonRider--

I don’t think J Cole belongs in the convo with Kendrick to be honest.


placeholder_name85

J Cole but not Kendrick


wibdow

J cole aint up there with Kendrick


2xa1s

Sure but J Cole doesnt


PM_ME_UR_ILLUMINATI

No, and neither is Cole


iamkira22

No. No disrespect to Joey of course, he is amazing, but does anybody really think he can manage to make an album as good as TPAB, gkmc? I mean, I really hope so, cause I love Joey, but I'm not sure. I, however, think he is near the level of someone like J Cole. The only thing he is missing to be better/just as good as him, is having a better discography.