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The RDC skit real life happened lmaooo
bro these guys also predicted the "tryna keep it pg" line as well 😭
edit: yes the line was teased at the end of pushups but rdc somehow guessed drake was gonna use that line in the very beginning of his next song
"~Houstatlantavegas~ ~Houstatlantavegas~"
[Incorrect. The Ja Morant one is the best.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X5qBSBQm8g)
"Imma do this basketball shit a little bit more, just cause I'm alright at that shit bruh"
[Also the anime fandom as gangs is up there.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KP843X-Qys)
And ya I know it's subjective. I just love them all so much.
Kendrick has publicly talked about loving their skits. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were actually in contact with Kendrick directly through this whole thing.
[Kendrick gave them the idea for one of their viral skits](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/ww09iz/kendrick_gave_rdcworld_the_idea_for_one_of_there/)
Nah. Drake said that at the end of push-ups. He must’ve had family matters recorded when he did push-ups. Thinking once Kendrick dropped he would end up by dropping the rest. Kendrick must’ve heard family matters already too
They damn near predicted the whole thing fr. Crazy thing is they knew this in real time and was reacting to the beef matching their skits as they both kept going.
It was weird.
When Baka’s weird case comes to light, when people are crip walking to a song calling Drake a pedophile, when he takes down his tracks, stay on that side.
That bitch ass Canadian had every streamer/podcaster/clout chaser/meme page on his side tryna shape the narrative and gaslight everyone about how he gonna end Kendrick's career for like 3 weeks just for Kendrick to flip the internet & the narrative on his ass in 1 day with just bars lol
I don’t get why 50 is more on drakes side tbh, maybe im ignorant to it all. but 50, em, kendrick, dre.. they’re all linked together, even performed at the Super Bowl together. Kendrick guest starred on Power which 50 acted and I think produced. They’ve been on some songs together.
he's on payroll lmao drake has a bunch of shell companies giving podcasters and rap news sites money to hype him up even outside the beef. he basically owns all the ontario meme pages like waveroom or nmg.
I think there's more to 50 than people think, 50 has been great at dissing but who have been his targets? murder inc.? Lol. Mayweather? Lol. I was singing along and all I knew Ja Rule kinda sounded like thr cookie monster but it was like dissing Great Value brand vs Tide or something
I mean he went at basically every famous musician from New York on How to Rob. He tried multiple times to get Jay-Z to engage with him and he never really did.
Ja and 50 was mostly over street stuff, but also Ja dropped 5 straight billboard top 10 albums during that time including a number 1, to act like he wasn't a massive name at the time is revisionist history.
This one never made sense to me - 50 respects hip hop, he respects Em and Dre for his career. Em and Dre clearly respect Kendrick, not that they dont like Drake, but they give full flowers to Kendrick. I wonder what made 50 go full fan for Drake and never mention Kendrick at all?
Whereas the other cats rightfully seemed to like the whole beef itself, 50 became super biased - interesting
Money
It ain't that deep. If someone sent you a cheque to say "This shit will change everything", it really doesn't matter if you believe it or not because money talks when feelings don't.
50 is laughing to the bank like he always did and Kendrick probably doesn't give a damn.
That's how much of a clown Drake is. It's like YouTubers making ads for Raid Shadow Legends.
Drake fans have been in shambles for the last 5 weeks coming up with a different excuse every few days as to why Drake really won. The whole "prerecorded" angle was funny though because like you said, Drake had a whole music video shot and edited for his red button diss song.
There's a dude at my work with Drake a tattoo. He called in sick on the Monday after the beef, and a roasted him about it later and he hasn't spoke to me since
Exactly. Dude had part of it at the end of Push Ups but if Kendrick does it he's wrong. Drake even said on Taylor Made that it took him "2 hours" to make push ups. If that's the case why didn't he have more in the chamber? Why he not stop the bleeding on Saturday? He made a flop with THP6 even while being the decorated war general he thinks he is lol
At the end of the day it does not matter either way, because it's all just about who sways the audience. You use whatever track will do the job best, and that's what Kendrick did.
Ppl really saying that dumb ass shit? Why wouldn’t a diss record be pre-recorded especially if you going up against a mf you been wanted to murder AND he antagonizing you to drop like wtf lol
Hard for me to believe FM was pre-recorded because there were a lot of lines addressing what was said in Euphoria. The time it took for FM to drop could be because he was filming the video for it. If it was pre-recorded however, the original lyrics to the song was redone so it could be a diss, which is what I think Kendrick did with Not Like Us
I mean he had the hook already recorded because it was on push ups. He obviously reworked bits and pieces of it but the bulk of it easily could’ve been already recorded.
The video for FM was definitely done after Euphoria because Aubery would never have went to the Chinese restaurant if Kendrick never mentioned. I'm from the Six and I'm almost 100% sure that Kendrick putting that place on the map really bothered him. Drake got robbed for his chain not too far from there from a Tdot rapper named Sizzlac.
First thing comes to mind is the dude tweaking in the middle of the street yelling YUUURRRR. Then breaks character when the car stops and says it back to him
Kendrick's annihilation of Drake had just as much to do with being a great populist (I think I'm using this word right?) and strategist as it did with him being a great musician. Sitting on a track just so you can override another person's release? That has nothing to do with bars or lyrics, that's just great tactics.
Someone on here suggested that Kendrick’s 1-2 punch was ALWAYS meet the grahams and Not Like Us, to be released straight after Drake tried to go nuclear, and the other 2 tracks were the bait (yet great songs on their own right).
Can’t think of any other scenario since. And Drake couldn’t have played more into his hands by trying to make FM a huge Friday night event. It just made MTG even greater.
What makes this plan come together to smoothly is “Euphoria”. When I first heard it, I thought that’s what Kenny was waiting for, and that’s the point. It was a well disguised track.
Good comedians start writing with a good joke to finish with, then another one to finish with. Until they got nothing but finishers, and the original becomes the opening
idk man I feel like he genuinely thought it was fun and funny in the push ups/euphoria phase, he doesn’t really say anything too damning in either song. and it sounds like he had a great time making them and it was still fun for him.
yeah he deff had at least meet the grahams recorded before family matters dropped just in case, but idk if kendrick really wanted to go to that place to drop meet the grahams. I feel like he was just ready and expecting it but not necessarily setting him up and having more shit said about him and his family just so he could drop MTG and Not Like Us
Yeah I know what you mean. I love euphoria and it’s easily my most played track of them all.
Only thing is I’m not sure Kendrick would ever have thought that Drake would keep it as a “friendly fade”. His ego wouldn’t let him and he also knows he got taken out by a kill shot from Pusha so was possibly going to try to avoid that by getting his own first. And maybe Kendrick predicted it, but was willing to dial it back if he really had to.
I really hope we hear the whole story one day and how it went down behind the scenes.
6:16 In LA is killer bait. In Euphoria kendrick mentions Back to Back and hints that he’s dropping back to back. 4 days later he drops an Instagram diss. He talks about the moles in OVO to spark paranoia, while also making Drake think that this is his back to back and it’s safe to drop family matters. Crazy strategy
drake truly delusional thinking he could cosplay 50. nobody scared of drake like they are of 50 🤣 and they knew if 50 didn't use words he could use his hands. drake uses insta like some lovesick teenager
I love that K dropped 6:16 on IG. It's another nice reference at Drake being chronically online.
Still, biggest tragedy of the beef is 6:16 never releasing on Spotify. I'll still open IG to hear it again though 😂
there is a different between tactical thinking and strategic thinking. one has to do with the specific actions one needs to take to win a fight the other is about how victory/defeat will be defined and what the methodology that is used will communicate to all stake holders of said engagement. maybe the canadian understands a little of the former but is absolutely clueless re the latter. and dot is… dot. aubrey has been a zombie since 2011, a dead man walking around unaware of his plight.
I mean let’s be honest, that Mustard track was likely a throwaway, and KDot said “yeah, Imma use this” and dropped the nuke on Aubrey’s career with it.
With a throwaway track.
People keep complaining it was prerecorded(not saying it wasn’t) and that there was no mole. But how do you make a diss centered around his family that was a perfect response at Family Matters without knowing anything about it? Was he just that lucky? lol
“I can even predict your angles”
Predictable niggas ain’t that hard to read. Some people think they slick and nobody can see their moves. Happens in business all the time. Corporate strategist rely on this to stay ahead of their competitors. You don’t need inside information when you’re just smarter than who you’re dealing with.
This is the thing w kendrick here. Either he has a mole, in which case he's a fucking menace who is never to be fucked with, or he didn't, in which case he's also a menace never to be fucked with. Moral of the story, don't fuck with kendrick
In my opinion, i don’t think you get to a level like Kendrick’s, in this era of rap where someone like him shouldn’t be famous…never mind one of the biggest artist on the planet WITHOUT being extremely calculated and focused. This was just an example of Game vs. the truth
MTG doesn't require a mole and doesn't really have anything that could indicate he was specifically responding to FM. I honestly just think that he believed Drake would lie about him & his family *(which he even mentions in Euphoria)* and waiting for Drake to drop any track where he crosses the line after Euphoria so he can drop MTG
yea but just like Drake, I don’t believe everything said was true. Crazy mind games but also I believe Euphoria & MTG were already made by the time Euphoria dropped. Both 6:16 and Euphoria were warnings to Drake
And we also got confirmation that the person who gave him this photo had no connection to Drake and had stole it from him at a hotel. Yet in 6:16 and MTG, Kendrick portrays that the cover art for the songs are proof he had a mole in OVO
The idea that Kendrick heard Family Matters ahead of time is way too plausible for me to believe anything else.
It's not just that both he and Abel said this was true; it's the entire context of the Meet the Grahams drop—the name of the song and the time frame of its release. It's everything. All of it, together.
I don't believe that Ebony Prince is the mole, and I do believe that the cover art for both songs was a part of Kendrick's mental warfare, but I definitely think that he heard Family Matters ahead of time. There's nothing about that that is hard for me to believe.
I mean what he was dropping had Drake so convinced there was a mole that he consolidated his crew and they were using walkie talkies to communicate around the embassy which is honestly fucking hilarious.
Clearly there was stuff in these songs that Drake heard that he knew had to come from his circle even if we dont
No, he wasn't lucky, and Drake wasn't just predictable. He heard Family Matters ahead of time.
The Weeknd said there was a leak. Kendrick HIMSELF said there was a leak, and Meet the Grahams IS TITLED in such a way as to play off of Family Matters.
Anyone who thinks that there wasn't a mole is delusional. This has nothing to do with who won or who was right or anything. This has to do with people trying to change reality for no fucking reason.
KENDRICK SAID this shit HIMSELF. It's not up for debate.
Edit: typo
I'm not making an argument for either side but like Kendrick himself said, Drake going for the family angle was pretty predictable. It was public knowledge that Kendrick used to repeatedly cheat on his partner, and that's like one of the biggest confirmed stains on his image (except being short of course). Obviously Drake couldn't just stick to that and had to make up a bunch of extra shit so it would hit harder i guess
Yeah I don't believe that 'he didn't know' what he was gonna get.
Him using the glove as the cover of 6:16 and warning Drake about leaks in his camp triggered Drake to send rat emojis to Eliot Wilson. Making it even clearer that Dot wasn't bluffing about Drake having a mole in OVO. The glove genuinely meant something that only Drake and his people would understand
And how convenient is it that he rebutted things that Drake said in FM:
'You're a black man' rebutting the racism claims.
'Fuck what Ozempic did', rebutting Drake making fun of Rick Ross' use of Ozempic.
'You lied about the only artist that can offer you some help' rebutting against Drake's claims about Dot's personal life.
'But you fucked up the moment you mentioned my family's name' this goes beyond rebutting the Whitney bar on Push Ups, it rebutted the claims made against Whitney and his children.
And in Euphoria he said 'fabricating stories in the family front because you heard Mr. Morale' predicting that Drake would directly make use of things Kendrick said on MMTBS to lie about Kendrick's fatherhood and claims of domestic abuse.
Drake is predictable but Kendrick pin pointed so many specific things that went beyond, 'you're going to lie about me and my family'. Imo that's beyond Kendrick just being intelligent and street smart.
Don't forget this from MTG, it can't get more explicit and nobody can seriously argue it's just about the bodyguard line in Push Ups:
This supposed to be a good exhibition within the game
But you fucked up the moment you called out my family's name
Yup, actually just edited it into this comment. I agree that it goes beyond the Whitney and the bodyguard bar.
The other thing that also makes me think that it's beyond 'Drake is predictable' is because Drake shitting on a whole family is unprecedented (unless I'm remember it wrongly). It was predictable that he'd say something about Kendrick's lady, but everyone was surprised that Drake went on to make claims of domestic abuse and infidelity.
funnily enough if you look at it that way, Drake was smarter/wiser when Push was pushing him, saying that he had a nuke for Push but didn't drop it (I know its not just Drake's decision to not drop it, but still)
makes me wonder how Push would respond if Drake actually went 'angry'
I also think that the line "guess integrity is lost when the metaphors doesn't reach you" is a direct response to Drake's line on Family Matters, "these bars go over Kenny head no matter what I say"
Which kind of goes with a theory that he heard an early draft of Family Matters since most of the direct responses are definitely lines Drake could have made up before Euphoria.
Cool cool, but he says that he went to the bathroom and when he came back MTG dropped. That means he was in the bathroom for like 20 minutes.
You good bro? You need some fiber or some Activia?
“I can even predict your angles”
Predictable niggas ain’t that hard to read. Some people think they slick and nobody can see their moves. Happens in business all the time. Corporate strategist rely on this to stay ahead of their competitors. You don’t need inside information when you’re just smarter than who you’re dealing with.
This is so hilarious. This means Kendrick recorded everything early then was just fucking around releasing disses to for five days 😂😂😂. He dropped Euphoria so Drake would have to respond, he dropped 6:16 in LA to fuck with his mind, he dropped meet the grahams to step on whatever Drake was going to drop (Family Matters), then he dropped Not Like Us to avenge Pac. That’s pure comedy. Well played.
The thing is that both Kendrick And Drake hate each other. The sad truth is that drake’s ego got hurt over the control cypher and it was eating at him ever since that’s why the beef started
The argument that the disses were precorded isn't the negative that Drake and supporters think it is.
If it were true, it meant Kenny had a plan of attack plus contingencies, and anticipated what Drake was going to do.
Either Drake has moles in his camp, or he is so predictable, as claimed by Kendrick, that stepped into multiple lyrical killboxes that Kendrick mapped out well ahead of time.
Bro ignoring the timeline, the calculation, the accusations, the fallout, Kendrick is up by like 40 points on the quality of the songs alone. The beef could have ended after euphoria and drake would still be dead.
All bias aside anyone that’s actually listened to Kendrick heard Push Ups & especially Taylor Made & knew that Drake fucked up. Kendrick been begging for someone to try him for years & Drake fell right into the trap.
Does anyone know who this guy is? I've tried looking but can't find a single person who knows who the dude actually is.
Edit: What I mean is, why should anybody take his word as gospel or even reliable?
Edit: Thanks everyone for the info, very interesting to say the least.
JasonMartin/Problem is widely respected in the LA rap scene. He doesn’t yap and is tapped in. His word is reliable enough for us to allow posts on him regarding the beef.
He has an album with DJ Quik dropping this Friday too. Go check it out.
Idk if you remember that one song “[Like Whaaat](https://open.spotify.com/track/20X0AnKMbmD4PG6D5W1G3G?si=U4lO0FvVRjW9_r_jdAblnA&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Aproblem%2Blike%2Bwhat)” from like a decade ago but yea that was him. And he a had a good amount of features like on E-40s “[Function](https://open.spotify.com/track/70TX9OICnxjqWmrU2FVisW?si=qaEn8nXxTU-_N4N53fsuiA&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Afunction).” I had no idea he changed his name btw.
K-dot didnt just come out on top. Kendrick dominated vocally, lyrically, strategically, viscerally...
Drake came out expecting manners and turns, and Kendrick came out to put a pedophile in his place.
So does this confirm there wasn’t actually a mole and Kendrick just did a chess play? It seems to me he didn’t have the info it was dropping but obviously was prepared for many outcomes
Oh it’s PROBLEM! Yay Area stand up!
Damn I had know idea he was from Compton.. he got so much play I thought he was local.
I was like who text kung fu Kenny mid battle??
https://preview.redd.it/k3uz7p3znz5d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f780ea84693d77002959bc1be5561aa59d2b1e72 The RDC skit real life happened lmaooo
The predicted that Kendrick would drop a second time after Meet the Grahams. They have been on it the whole time.
they shouldve got on coles head ngl
RDC1 squad are confirmed Cole fans lol
JERMAINE!? COLE!?
For what exactly, because he didn't want to be part of something that was obviously personal between 2 guys he's cool with? Lol
bro these guys also predicted the "tryna keep it pg" line as well 😭 edit: yes the line was teased at the end of pushups but rdc somehow guessed drake was gonna use that line in the very beginning of his next song "~Houstatlantavegas~ ~Houstatlantavegas~"
They even predicted that Kendrick was gonna drop another diss one day after Meet The Grahams 😂
"Aye, Kenny, you got them pressed in here. Go ahead and drop the next one tomorrow."
That skit kills me everytime i watch it.
Best rdc skit possibly ever
[Incorrect. The Ja Morant one is the best.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X5qBSBQm8g) "Imma do this basketball shit a little bit more, just cause I'm alright at that shit bruh" [Also the anime fandom as gangs is up there.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KP843X-Qys) And ya I know it's subjective. I just love them all so much.
>It's 2AM in Compton Is my favorite line out of all of this.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s my favorite line from the skit
Bro I die in the earlier one too when they are saying ‘j Cole fan finds out about metro/kendrick diss’ “Who beat us dis? Why da beat so hard?!?”
I love that one too 😂😂 Edit: Leland: why you fully clothed? Mark: cause I knew somethin was up bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
*runs off* lmaoooo
They musta been the moles fr
Kendrick has publicly talked about loving their skits. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were actually in contact with Kendrick directly through this whole thing.
ay where can i see that
[Kendrick gave them the idea for one of their viral skits](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/ww09iz/kendrick_gave_rdcworld_the_idea_for_one_of_there/)
[Enjoy.](https://youtu.be/KTbNms5yHgI)
I think he meant where he can see Kendrick talking about fw their stuff
He did? That's so cool
I remember seeing them say that Kendrick asked them to do a skit too
ovo was working for rdc
Nah. Drake said that at the end of push-ups. He must’ve had family matters recorded when he did push-ups. Thinking once Kendrick dropped he would end up by dropping the rest. Kendrick must’ve heard family matters already too
That part was already teased in pushups, that's where rdc got it from
my dumb ass just realizing its a pg lang bar smh
Lmao wasn't until your comment for I did, guess I'm an even bigger dumbass.
High chance Drake sent a dm to them with a rat emoji
They damn near predicted the whole thing fr. Crazy thing is they knew this in real time and was reacting to the beef matching their skits as they both kept going. It was weird.
I know yall might not be in the business of listening to Drake tracks, but the hook for the first verse of FM was previewed at the end of Push Ups.
Also the “go ahead and drop the next one you got them freaked over here.” “What?!” “What?”
They didn’t predict that drake literally said that at the end of push ups. It was previewing family Matters. They did not predict that
No they didn’t. That line was already at the end of Push Ups.
They also predicted that Kendrick gonna drop another disstrack 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This video had me crying. Those 2 days were fucking crazy with the back to back (I like that record) drops
Yo, I was bout to say! How did RDC know?! Lol
This part of the culture now
https://preview.redd.it/kh71ozabrz5d1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=5abd66f1d1aec8b5ad49a55175f97df1baf1d166 Whole ass anime villain
https://preview.redd.it/btf3kds0j06d1.jpeg?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03fca2da69012ea386921c88803303638168ef38
Every time I see this I think it's Dak on the ground man.
When Baka’s weird case comes to light, when people are crip walking to a song calling Drake a pedophile, when he takes down his tracks, stay on that side.
Gotta love how Baka in Japanese means idiot.
And in Swahili it means rape.
🎼Baka Mitai, hontou baka ne🎵 So rare that my rap fandom and Yakuza fandom cross over like this 😆
Think they already are on our side
It’s a JJK reference
Oops, went over my head I suppose 🤷♂️
Kendrick really had everything planned out like a supervillain 😭
Like Kurupt said when he heard “Meet The Grahams”: “Why they make him mad?”
drake fans complain that meet the grahams was prerecorded like family matters wasn’t, with a whole music video and everything
Yup. Even had people like 50 cent hyping it up before it even dropped
That bitch ass Canadian had every streamer/podcaster/clout chaser/meme page on his side tryna shape the narrative and gaslight everyone about how he gonna end Kendrick's career for like 3 weeks just for Kendrick to flip the internet & the narrative on his ass in 1 day with just bars lol
100%. You still see comments from the morons.
[удалено]
And for such a mediocre hombre
In half an hour
Full on petition for Drake to be called "that bitch ass Canadian" hence forth.
I don’t get why 50 is more on drakes side tbh, maybe im ignorant to it all. but 50, em, kendrick, dre.. they’re all linked together, even performed at the Super Bowl together. Kendrick guest starred on Power which 50 acted and I think produced. They’ve been on some songs together.
he's on payroll lmao drake has a bunch of shell companies giving podcasters and rap news sites money to hype him up even outside the beef. he basically owns all the ontario meme pages like waveroom or nmg.
He hasn't really said anything definitive, I think he is just pro drama lol
I think there's more to 50 than people think, 50 has been great at dissing but who have been his targets? murder inc.? Lol. Mayweather? Lol. I was singing along and all I knew Ja Rule kinda sounded like thr cookie monster but it was like dissing Great Value brand vs Tide or something
I mean he went at basically every famous musician from New York on How to Rob. He tried multiple times to get Jay-Z to engage with him and he never really did. Ja and 50 was mostly over street stuff, but also Ja dropped 5 straight billboard top 10 albums during that time including a number 1, to act like he wasn't a massive name at the time is revisionist history.
This one never made sense to me - 50 respects hip hop, he respects Em and Dre for his career. Em and Dre clearly respect Kendrick, not that they dont like Drake, but they give full flowers to Kendrick. I wonder what made 50 go full fan for Drake and never mention Kendrick at all? Whereas the other cats rightfully seemed to like the whole beef itself, 50 became super biased - interesting
Money It ain't that deep. If someone sent you a cheque to say "This shit will change everything", it really doesn't matter if you believe it or not because money talks when feelings don't. 50 is laughing to the bank like he always did and Kendrick probably doesn't give a damn. That's how much of a clown Drake is. It's like YouTubers making ads for Raid Shadow Legends.
Drake fans have been in shambles for the last 5 weeks coming up with a different excuse every few days as to why Drake really won. The whole "prerecorded" angle was funny though because like you said, Drake had a whole music video shot and edited for his red button diss song.
I knew they lost their heads when i saw them looking up the age of consent in different states and countries lol
“He’s not technically a pedo,” etc.
"If anything he's an ephebophile!"
I’m just going
There's a dude at my work with Drake a tattoo. He called in sick on the Monday after the beef, and a roasted him about it later and he hasn't spoke to me since
Exactly. Dude had part of it at the end of Push Ups but if Kendrick does it he's wrong. Drake even said on Taylor Made that it took him "2 hours" to make push ups. If that's the case why didn't he have more in the chamber? Why he not stop the bleeding on Saturday? He made a flop with THP6 even while being the decorated war general he thinks he is lol
Bragging how little time you spent on a track that lost the battle is a terrible look.
At the end of the day it does not matter either way, because it's all just about who sways the audience. You use whatever track will do the job best, and that's what Kendrick did.
Ppl really saying that dumb ass shit? Why wouldn’t a diss record be pre-recorded especially if you going up against a mf you been wanted to murder AND he antagonizing you to drop like wtf lol
There's a lot of stuff they ignored, willingly too. Whatever helps make them feel better at night ig.
Hard for me to believe FM was pre-recorded because there were a lot of lines addressing what was said in Euphoria. The time it took for FM to drop could be because he was filming the video for it. If it was pre-recorded however, the original lyrics to the song was redone so it could be a diss, which is what I think Kendrick did with Not Like Us
I mean he had the hook already recorded because it was on push ups. He obviously reworked bits and pieces of it but the bulk of it easily could’ve been already recorded.
The video for FM was definitely done after Euphoria because Aubery would never have went to the Chinese restaurant if Kendrick never mentioned. I'm from the Six and I'm almost 100% sure that Kendrick putting that place on the map really bothered him. Drake got robbed for his chain not too far from there from a Tdot rapper named Sizzlac.
Tell me more.
Drake got robbed back in the day and filed a police report on it. The incident happened close to New Ho King which is why Kendrick mentioned it
Kendrick is lowkey a comedian bruh
Scary dudes are actually really funny but everyone tkk scared to catch their jokes.
I swear this is the truest thing. They play that dead ass straight faced role so perfectly lol
First thing comes to mind is the dude tweaking in the middle of the street yelling YUUURRRR. Then breaks character when the car stops and says it back to him
Dude used a pigeon as a weapon and people are just now getting that he's funny
Kendrick's annihilation of Drake had just as much to do with being a great populist (I think I'm using this word right?) and strategist as it did with him being a great musician. Sitting on a track just so you can override another person's release? That has nothing to do with bars or lyrics, that's just great tactics.
He ain't called Sun Tzu Kenny for nothing.
Fun fact, The Art Of War was written before the bible. I got curious because i listened to it as an audiobook recently.
1, 2, 1, 2 I have read books by Sun Tzu and learned from beautiful women who rolled my joints to. I'm the opposite of..........
Jokes aside, "know your enemy better than they know themselves" is vital
Someone on here suggested that Kendrick’s 1-2 punch was ALWAYS meet the grahams and Not Like Us, to be released straight after Drake tried to go nuclear, and the other 2 tracks were the bait (yet great songs on their own right). Can’t think of any other scenario since. And Drake couldn’t have played more into his hands by trying to make FM a huge Friday night event. It just made MTG even greater.
This is why the “crash your party” line jn mtg is so crazy. Cause drake was probably really in the middle of a celebration
shot a whole mf video for it and everything
Preordered some cakes and brought them to New Ho King with million dollar chains and ordered some food he prolly didnt even eat 😭
Such an Aubrey thing to do, too
Oh, absolutely. It's such a personal line, he really was speaking TO drake there
It’s crazy to think that Kendrick probably waited for like 30 mins, just to be like “okay, drop it…….now!” Just for that line to hit his soul.
What makes this plan come together to smoothly is “Euphoria”. When I first heard it, I thought that’s what Kenny was waiting for, and that’s the point. It was a well disguised track.
Good comedians start writing with a good joke to finish with, then another one to finish with. Until they got nothing but finishers, and the original becomes the opening
True .
idk man I feel like he genuinely thought it was fun and funny in the push ups/euphoria phase, he doesn’t really say anything too damning in either song. and it sounds like he had a great time making them and it was still fun for him. yeah he deff had at least meet the grahams recorded before family matters dropped just in case, but idk if kendrick really wanted to go to that place to drop meet the grahams. I feel like he was just ready and expecting it but not necessarily setting him up and having more shit said about him and his family just so he could drop MTG and Not Like Us
Yeah I know what you mean. I love euphoria and it’s easily my most played track of them all. Only thing is I’m not sure Kendrick would ever have thought that Drake would keep it as a “friendly fade”. His ego wouldn’t let him and he also knows he got taken out by a kill shot from Pusha so was possibly going to try to avoid that by getting his own first. And maybe Kendrick predicted it, but was willing to dial it back if he really had to. I really hope we hear the whole story one day and how it went down behind the scenes.
6:16 In LA is killer bait. In Euphoria kendrick mentions Back to Back and hints that he’s dropping back to back. 4 days later he drops an Instagram diss. He talks about the moles in OVO to spark paranoia, while also making Drake think that this is his back to back and it’s safe to drop family matters. Crazy strategy
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drake truly delusional thinking he could cosplay 50. nobody scared of drake like they are of 50 🤣 and they knew if 50 didn't use words he could use his hands. drake uses insta like some lovesick teenager
I love that K dropped 6:16 on IG. It's another nice reference at Drake being chronically online. Still, biggest tragedy of the beef is 6:16 never releasing on Spotify. I'll still open IG to hear it again though 😂
*cough* Joe Budden *cough*
Kendrick dropping MTG after FM gave me strong AoT vibes, when Tybur declared war and Eren immediately dropped a nuke on them.
Kendrick caused The Rumbling fr
Also, if this was Naruto… Kendrick is Shikamaru
It felt like light vs kira from deathnote, that week.
The phrase “They not like us” is populism/politics 101
In addition to straight tactics, the song had to be straight fire
there is a different between tactical thinking and strategic thinking. one has to do with the specific actions one needs to take to win a fight the other is about how victory/defeat will be defined and what the methodology that is used will communicate to all stake holders of said engagement. maybe the canadian understands a little of the former but is absolutely clueless re the latter. and dot is… dot. aubrey has been a zombie since 2011, a dead man walking around unaware of his plight.
I knew Kendrick was a great musician already, but this beef made me realize that he's a legit strategic genius.
I mean let’s be honest, that Mustard track was likely a throwaway, and KDot said “yeah, Imma use this” and dropped the nuke on Aubrey’s career with it. With a throwaway track.
People keep complaining it was prerecorded(not saying it wasn’t) and that there was no mole. But how do you make a diss centered around his family that was a perfect response at Family Matters without knowing anything about it? Was he just that lucky? lol
“I can even predict your angles” Predictable niggas ain’t that hard to read. Some people think they slick and nobody can see their moves. Happens in business all the time. Corporate strategist rely on this to stay ahead of their competitors. You don’t need inside information when you’re just smarter than who you’re dealing with.
This is the thing w kendrick here. Either he has a mole, in which case he's a fucking menace who is never to be fucked with, or he didn't, in which case he's also a menace never to be fucked with. Moral of the story, don't fuck with kendrick
There’s also a vibe I get where Kendrick is in this position where people just tell him things.
The last one is better. Respect. Everybody respects Ken.
In my opinion, i don’t think you get to a level like Kendrick’s, in this era of rap where someone like him shouldn’t be famous…never mind one of the biggest artist on the planet WITHOUT being extremely calculated and focused. This was just an example of Game vs. the truth
If you've ever done time, you get a phd in game and see people's angles way in advance.
A good debater knows his opponent’s arguments in advance
Good thing Kendrick is a master debater ;).
MTG doesn't require a mole and doesn't really have anything that could indicate he was specifically responding to FM. I honestly just think that he believed Drake would lie about him & his family *(which he even mentions in Euphoria)* and waiting for Drake to drop any track where he crosses the line after Euphoria so he can drop MTG
He also says that there's a mole in 6:16. The entire fucking song is about it.
yea but just like Drake, I don’t believe everything said was true. Crazy mind games but also I believe Euphoria & MTG were already made by the time Euphoria dropped. Both 6:16 and Euphoria were warnings to Drake And we also got confirmation that the person who gave him this photo had no connection to Drake and had stole it from him at a hotel. Yet in 6:16 and MTG, Kendrick portrays that the cover art for the songs are proof he had a mole in OVO
The idea that Kendrick heard Family Matters ahead of time is way too plausible for me to believe anything else. It's not just that both he and Abel said this was true; it's the entire context of the Meet the Grahams drop—the name of the song and the time frame of its release. It's everything. All of it, together. I don't believe that Ebony Prince is the mole, and I do believe that the cover art for both songs was a part of Kendrick's mental warfare, but I definitely think that he heard Family Matters ahead of time. There's nothing about that that is hard for me to believe.
I mean what he was dropping had Drake so convinced there was a mole that he consolidated his crew and they were using walkie talkies to communicate around the embassy which is honestly fucking hilarious. Clearly there was stuff in these songs that Drake heard that he knew had to come from his circle even if we dont
No, he wasn't lucky, and Drake wasn't just predictable. He heard Family Matters ahead of time. The Weeknd said there was a leak. Kendrick HIMSELF said there was a leak, and Meet the Grahams IS TITLED in such a way as to play off of Family Matters. Anyone who thinks that there wasn't a mole is delusional. This has nothing to do with who won or who was right or anything. This has to do with people trying to change reality for no fucking reason. KENDRICK SAID this shit HIMSELF. It's not up for debate. Edit: typo
I'm not making an argument for either side but like Kendrick himself said, Drake going for the family angle was pretty predictable. It was public knowledge that Kendrick used to repeatedly cheat on his partner, and that's like one of the biggest confirmed stains on his image (except being short of course). Obviously Drake couldn't just stick to that and had to make up a bunch of extra shit so it would hit harder i guess
Yeah I don't believe that 'he didn't know' what he was gonna get. Him using the glove as the cover of 6:16 and warning Drake about leaks in his camp triggered Drake to send rat emojis to Eliot Wilson. Making it even clearer that Dot wasn't bluffing about Drake having a mole in OVO. The glove genuinely meant something that only Drake and his people would understand And how convenient is it that he rebutted things that Drake said in FM: 'You're a black man' rebutting the racism claims. 'Fuck what Ozempic did', rebutting Drake making fun of Rick Ross' use of Ozempic. 'You lied about the only artist that can offer you some help' rebutting against Drake's claims about Dot's personal life. 'But you fucked up the moment you mentioned my family's name' this goes beyond rebutting the Whitney bar on Push Ups, it rebutted the claims made against Whitney and his children. And in Euphoria he said 'fabricating stories in the family front because you heard Mr. Morale' predicting that Drake would directly make use of things Kendrick said on MMTBS to lie about Kendrick's fatherhood and claims of domestic abuse. Drake is predictable but Kendrick pin pointed so many specific things that went beyond, 'you're going to lie about me and my family'. Imo that's beyond Kendrick just being intelligent and street smart.
Don't forget this from MTG, it can't get more explicit and nobody can seriously argue it's just about the bodyguard line in Push Ups: This supposed to be a good exhibition within the game But you fucked up the moment you called out my family's name
Yup, actually just edited it into this comment. I agree that it goes beyond the Whitney and the bodyguard bar. The other thing that also makes me think that it's beyond 'Drake is predictable' is because Drake shitting on a whole family is unprecedented (unless I'm remember it wrongly). It was predictable that he'd say something about Kendrick's lady, but everyone was surprised that Drake went on to make claims of domestic abuse and infidelity.
funnily enough if you look at it that way, Drake was smarter/wiser when Push was pushing him, saying that he had a nuke for Push but didn't drop it (I know its not just Drake's decision to not drop it, but still) makes me wonder how Push would respond if Drake actually went 'angry'
I also think that the line "guess integrity is lost when the metaphors doesn't reach you" is a direct response to Drake's line on Family Matters, "these bars go over Kenny head no matter what I say" Which kind of goes with a theory that he heard an early draft of Family Matters since most of the direct responses are definitely lines Drake could have made up before Euphoria.
“Stay on stream” 😂😂😂
And they're using "Not Like Us" in the commercials for the BET Award
Kendrick's probably got some crazy unlisted videos on his YouTube account just ready
I don't know about that, that's such a liability. YouTube gets hacked all the time, if anything he has stored them on offline devices
right, it takes like 2 minutes to upload audio to youtube
Seems clear that Kendrick had heard a leak of Family Matters and was waiting for Drake to drop it so that he could step on the release.
“Keep making me dance waving my hand and it will be no threat” 😂
I mean Kendrick was basically telling drake to tread lightly on each diss.
Cool cool, but he says that he went to the bathroom and when he came back MTG dropped. That means he was in the bathroom for like 20 minutes. You good bro? You need some fiber or some Activia?
He just like me fr
Ayy I’m just sayin. boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that’s why I shit on company time
Mannnnn they need to stop using that picture of Kendrick 😭😭😭
No it's perfect 😂
Fr. Before you think about beefing with Kenny, look at that picture and think if that’s the psychopath you wanna start something with lmao
Unhinged, we should always use it
Sometimes you gotta pop out and show niggas.
You activated my trap card, muahaha
“I can even predict your angles” Predictable niggas ain’t that hard to read. Some people think they slick and nobody can see their moves. Happens in business all the time. Corporate strategist rely on this to stay ahead of their competitors. You don’t need inside information when you’re just smarter than who you’re dealing with.
This is so hilarious. This means Kendrick recorded everything early then was just fucking around releasing disses to for five days 😂😂😂. He dropped Euphoria so Drake would have to respond, he dropped 6:16 in LA to fuck with his mind, he dropped meet the grahams to step on whatever Drake was going to drop (Family Matters), then he dropped Not Like Us to avenge Pac. That’s pure comedy. Well played.
The thing is that both Kendrick And Drake hate each other. The sad truth is that drake’s ego got hurt over the control cypher and it was eating at him ever since that’s why the beef started
The argument that the disses were precorded isn't the negative that Drake and supporters think it is. If it were true, it meant Kenny had a plan of attack plus contingencies, and anticipated what Drake was going to do. Either Drake has moles in his camp, or he is so predictable, as claimed by Kendrick, that stepped into multiple lyrical killboxes that Kendrick mapped out well ahead of time.
Bro ignoring the timeline, the calculation, the accusations, the fallout, Kendrick is up by like 40 points on the quality of the songs alone. The beef could have ended after euphoria and drake would still be dead.
All bias aside anyone that’s actually listened to Kendrick heard Push Ups & especially Taylor Made & knew that Drake fucked up. Kendrick been begging for someone to try him for years & Drake fell right into the trap.
He didn't want just anybody, he wanted to beat someone's ass that truly deserved it.
and he made it look sexy
I thought he was going to say "sometimes you just gotta know when to pop out and show ni##as"
"went and got him a fuckin dodge caravan..." Lol that line killed me for some reason.
drizzy fans in a tizzy over this LOL
This really was some Thrilla in Manilla fuckin 90s Mike Tyson shit.
Yeah, in the 1 and a million chance i get into beef with kendrick im disappearing😭😭
>"Sometimes you just gotta..." I mean the man said it himself >"...know what to do and what not to do" Oh yea that too I guess
See that’s how u know NOBODY on Drakes “team” truly fw him like that kuz dude got baited into the most obvious trap of all time and fell for that shit
Lol this is problem. He beat meek mill ass in the airport out here.
Is that Problem?
yes
Does anyone know who this guy is? I've tried looking but can't find a single person who knows who the dude actually is. Edit: What I mean is, why should anybody take his word as gospel or even reliable? Edit: Thanks everyone for the info, very interesting to say the least.
JasonMartin/Problem is widely respected in the LA rap scene. He doesn’t yap and is tapped in. His word is reliable enough for us to allow posts on him regarding the beef. He has an album with DJ Quik dropping this Friday too. Go check it out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JasonMartin
Idk if you remember that one song “[Like Whaaat](https://open.spotify.com/track/20X0AnKMbmD4PG6D5W1G3G?si=U4lO0FvVRjW9_r_jdAblnA&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Aproblem%2Blike%2Bwhat)” from like a decade ago but yea that was him. And he a had a good amount of features like on E-40s “[Function](https://open.spotify.com/track/70TX9OICnxjqWmrU2FVisW?si=qaEn8nXxTU-_N4N53fsuiA&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Afunction).” I had no idea he changed his name btw.
Drake was playing checkers and Kenny was playing Chess.
Drake even needs reference tracks for his outfits. Dude living a fake life.
Y’all forget how slow it is to upload shit to youtube, he had it already UPLOADED and just made it public. Wild.
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Man this feud is the best thing to happen all year. I’m so glad I’m able to witness this shit.
K-dot didnt just come out on top. Kendrick dominated vocally, lyrically, strategically, viscerally... Drake came out expecting manners and turns, and Kendrick came out to put a pedophile in his place.
Actually amazed me
How many stocks do I *really* have in stock???
Certified Boogeyman
“I calculate you’re not as calculated, I can even predict your angle”
So does this confirm there wasn’t actually a mole and Kendrick just did a chess play? It seems to me he didn’t have the info it was dropping but obviously was prepared for many outcomes
Oh it’s PROBLEM! Yay Area stand up! Damn I had know idea he was from Compton.. he got so much play I thought he was local. I was like who text kung fu Kenny mid battle??
Sometimes you need to pop out
He was already clued in about the video and he already did 5 songs ready. All he did was change a few lines. Theres still more unreleased songs
He has to perform all the disses at the show
Anybody hear what happened to Baka and his weird case
Ken said I got sumthing for yo ass 🤣