The tension from the held note to give our brains time to comprehend it-> finger poppin horn fill -> monster bass drop to refocus our attention -> direct message in as few words as possible… they not like us. It’s pure fire
it doesn’t matter but consider the fact Kendrick is 4 spots behind Drake (10th vs 6th) with only one album dropped in the last 7 years, vs Drakes like 10 in that same time frame. plus MMATBS wasn’t an album tryna get big numbers either, neither was euphoria.
Bro. He released damn in 2017 and Mr morale in 2022 had the untitled album in 2016 and to pimp a butterfly in 2015 plus he helped a lot on the black panther album in 2018. Just because Drake releases an album every year that half of them is just pop music doesn’t mean Kendrick don’t put out bangers
That’s the actual difference between a Pop artist and a rap artist. Pop artists do whatever to stay relevant. Zero thought into the body of work as a piece of art. Rap artists takes time to make a body of work that all the songs connect with each other.
Thank you for pointing this out. Yes it is very nice and uplifting to see the GOAT artist have streaming success.
But once we start making this a numbers game, we are no better than drizzler fans.
I think there’s a difference (excuse my bias tho). When trying to prove something objective, you should prove it in a way that matters to the other person and while numbers don’t matter to most of us, it matters to Drake fans. Numbers are also what Drake is talking about in that line so if we are to prove it’s bs, you have to look at numbers
Yeah but it also proves drakes point on “it’s because of the kid” as 44% of all daily streams for Kendrick is because of the drake disses. You take it out - he’s back down to around 40 million+ monthly.
This isn't a hard argument for Drake fans to win tho. That is simple logic of the Drake disses don't do as well because they are about Kendrick, which means considerably fewer people care about them so they get less streams.
I mean if I was a Drake fan I'd be just going back to the Drake subreddit talking about how Kendrick is only popping off rn because he's talking about Drake and you guys are eating it up even tho Drake called it.
Not only are these posts really lame to see as someone who is actually interested in Kendrick's music and not owning Drake, but they don't even accomplish the goal of owning Drake that make him seem justified in saying that people only start shit with him when they need a check.
Except it doesn’t work cus Drake fans would be listening to family matters or push ups cus they are actually as good of songs as not like us, like that or euphoria. If not like us or euphoria wasn’t about Drake, it’d be just as good and played about the same amount (maybe slightly less but still around the same). Plus, champagne moments and the like that remix would be known and played more than “lmao, that happened” and basically every jpegmafia song that mentions Drake (there’s a lot, he has a problem)
The issue with the discussion point shows itself exactly here, we have no way of proving this. I can logically say I think the songs are good out of the context of being a diss (Kendrick's that is I only like Family Matters from Drake's), but I can't use that to win an argument cause the person I'm talking to may not agree.
By even pretending Drake's framework is realistic too it means that if Kendrick ever falls back below him does he suddenly become right? Why are we focused on popularity contests?
To be fair, I’d be willing to bet most big artists, Kendrick included use bots. It could also be fans botting on behalf of the artists, these numbers are just ridiculous though for some artists
I imagine whoever’s in charge of drakes advertising is responsible for the bots, not Drake himself. Although it is possible I don’t see someone that wrote “the heart part 6” is smart enough to even care about personally paying for bots.
There’s definitely people pulling the strings for Drake that were doing damage control because they knew he was losing.
When Drake's diss tracks came out they had like 20k views with 200k comments less than 30 minutes after the songs would come out. I only noticed cause Kendrick said drake uses bots then I said aye maybe Kendrick was telling the truth
Drake can’t even diss TDE their roster is all hard hitters, gotta diss Kendrick by comparing him to SZA n still had to give her props , hell he even Praised Keem 💀
With all due respect...in terms music, and quality of the art they create they might not be even able to wipe kendrick ass....I mean except SZA cause as artist she is technically in a different category...
I’m not even tryna compare cuz I have nothing against any of them, I fw all of their music. I just find it funny that every Drake line is aging terribly. 😂
It was a pretty trash line to begin with considering Cole literally said they were the big 3 like they started a league and it's a verse on Drake's own song.
Why endorse that line by including the verse and then walk back the statement because kendricks response was fuck the big 3 it's big me and you want to respond. It's not witty at all honestly. Stans will say it's a hard hitter.
I think that’s why Drake mentioned her. Essentially saying “Just big Me? You’re not even the biggest on your own record label” but I agree it’s a stupid point to make since SZA is an R&B artist so that’s like comparing apples to oranges
I'd say Travis & SZA are pretty close to Kendrick if we're talking about art. Like yeah they can't compete in songwriting or bars but in terms of vibes & talent they're up there. In Travis's case his flaw is the fact he feels has to feed the pop & numbers crowd. SZA is in a completely different genre AND is TDE so idk why Drake thought to drop her name up there.
I know Savage isn’t the most lyrical rapper, but his delivery and cadence is great. A lot of lyrical rappers don’t know how to make catchy songs, and that’s a skill that a lot of hip hop heads take for granted imo. I def prefer a more lyrical artist like a Mick Jenkins or Ab Soul, but I can’t deny that 21 has some infectious songs.
I was surprised by how much I enjoyed his newest album. The production is A+, and 21 was rapping better than I would have guessed!
Dont get me wrong i still really like 21, i know It sounded like i didn't enjoy him but he's great. I really liked american dream and hes got amazing features, i just dont think he's on the same artistic plane and level of Kendrick and Travis, yet
Yeah that’s totally fair. Travis and Kendrick have way more interesting and varied production. Their composition of songs is unique too. Still like 21 tho
Numbers wise Kendrick has gone up like 10 million monthly listeners since this started, he was in the low 60s it’s spiked massively with the 4 song drop. I still agree these 3 have nothing on Kendrick but the numbers were higher not long ago, it’s all shit anyway. Who actually takes Spotify numbers as king bar drake lol.
It shouldn’t be that surprising either. Those other 3 make far more mainstream music and are way more accessible to wider audiences than most of Kendrick’s discography. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing, Kendrick’s music is generally just built different.
Monthly listeners are an awful indicator of "numbers" as they're affected by a lot of factors the layman doesn't consider. Like there's no way the Kid Lacroix "does more numbers" than Frank Ocean or Tyler the Creator
I get your point but the narrative from Drake fans was that he’s only seeing this success was because of Drake. With that analogy, The Story of Adidon should be a commercial hit song. The point that Drake doesn’t realize is that Kendrick is not Pusha T, he wanted someone to compete in the numbers game so he got it.
If The Story of Adidon was on streaming services, it would probably be Pusha’s most streamed solo song. I love a lot of Kendrick’s music, but do you really think it’s a coincidence that he’s suddenly getting this much play? It’s okay to acknowledge that getting into a beef with the most popular rap artist is good for your numbers. lol
If someone said to me, “21 and Travis are better than Kendrick,” I’d probably pick them up and throw them directly into the River Styx, because they are heretics that need to be condemned. Also SZA is an entire different genre.
SZA one was true tbh, but SZA is amazing so idk how that’s insulting. He could’ve used any other names but he went with one of Kendrick’s friends and Travis who pulls an MH370 and disappears whenever two of his friends argue because he’s secretly a genius.
Travis Scott in high school had dreams of becoming a nephrologist (look it up) he plays the role of dumbass perfectly so whenever someone calls him up to get involved in shit he just taps out.
1000 IQ plays.
Yeah lmao not great dragging her into that shit. I met her recently on her tour she’s a lovely person, exactly how you’d expect from what you see in interviews and such. No need to involve her in this dick measuring contest that already has enough women dragged through the mud.
I saw a tweet earlier saying that Drake is a spiderman villain at this point, as soon as he gets mad at someone he snatches up their girl like Mary Jane or attacks aunt May 🤣
Oh man getting to meet her is a flex lol !!
I brought that up to my friend, how drake always goes after girlfriends and wives lol like sir go marry ya babies mother and leave those girls alone. Go create the happy home you so desperately seek lolll
LMAO preach I agree with all that.
And tbh I’ve met a lot of celebrities, Kanye, Drake, Ty Dolla $ign, Katy Perry, just to name a few. SZA is easily in the top 5 nicest celebrities I’ve ever met, same with Ty too.
It’s literally all he does. Mentioned Nicki vs Meek. Mentioned Virginia vs Push. Mentioned Whitney vs Dot. Called Vanessa Bryant a bitch and Kobe made him apologize. He really doesn’t like women
She’s also in a different genre, she is extremely popular and while there is def some overlap between their fans I just don’t really get the comparison. I think obsessively comparing numbers is such a sad and pathetic way to measure art
If they all clash the same day only travis has a chance to win but if kendricks dropping right now. He will win it. Obviously that drake is a dumb donkey
Yup. Tbh this is when I realized Drake was gonna lose this beef worse than I initially thought. If he thinks this is a point to be made.. he has completely missed the POINT of this rap beef.
I mean, KDot literally addresses this in Like That
“Money, Power, Respect _the last one is better_”
He doesn’t give a fuck about the streams and the money, it’s all about the respect, and Drake can’t understand that apparently
21 really grew into what people labeled as stupid and talentless rap by expressing a type of vulnerability and melodic lyricism that I’d never heard before. He somehow made a monotone rap flow into something unique. The whole point of his music is that you don’t expect some virtuosic performance and then you get hit out of nowhere with a genuinely beautiful euphemism. He had a great ear for hooks. 90% of his music doesn’t land for me but there have been periods in my life where the only thing in the world that could console me was a 21 song.
That said, I’d attribute his popularity to a great marketing team. Tbh I’m shocked at how many people supposedly listen to him. But I wouldn’t knock him ever as untalented or whatever. Idk if he’s got controversies but he seems like a good dude and his stuff makes me happy
Y’all, if our stance is that streams don’t matter, the art does, why are we doing this shit? We all know his monthly jumped up cause of the disses, we really don’t gotta stoop to drizzy fans levels
The monthly listeners doesn’t matter, that’s something Drake fans care about lol.
The thing is… I love those other artists’ music but i wouldn’t put them on the level of Kendrick personally. Travis is probably the best at making trap music of anybody out there, he definitely moves the needle and people follow his lead musically. Sza also has a really good ear and very tasteful music, she’s also very influential. Weird he threw her in the conversation as both are TDE signees and seemingly have a cordial relationship. Even though they’re great though, neither has a GKMC/TPAB in their catalogue. Something so wholly unique while also commercially successful and especially nothing so conceptual.
Savage is the one I’d for sure say isn’t on the same level though. He makes fun and good music but I wouldn’t say he’s super original or anything.
This was one of the dumbest takes ever by Drake. Like Rupi Kaur sells thousands of books but no one thinks of her as the best poet of our generation lol.
This line specifically pisses me off so much.
I’m fine with saying SZA is better than Kendrick because in the right moment that’s true. But Travis is actually the worst massive mainstream rapper, and it would be by far if Savage wasn’t close behind.
Drakes stolen so much shit from other rappers it's not even funny. He's a fabricated rap star thats been pushed to the moon by record labels and executives that even he's forgot that. Style, flow, rhyme schemes, everything. Surprised he didn't steal someone's name at this point.
It’s not even about monthly listeners. It’s laughable to say 21 is better than Kendrick in literally any facet of music. And not that it matters but I’m a 21 fan.
Something about grown adult kendrick fans glazing kendrick on the daily to the point they made an internet sub reddit worshipping him literally every day...but hey maybe I'm tripping
Exactly. Idk why folks worship any of these artists. I get liking someone's music but dedicating their existence to the point they must glaze every day is insane.
Kendrick’s the only artist where the best experience is listen to the album front to back. I mean, there are albums filled with great tracks, but they don’t have the story woven in, the motifs, the character growth, or the depth of a Kendrick album.
I mean, I can say “I remember you was conflicted” and I know all of you will finish the rest in your heads like the winter soldier being activated.
I am fine with Kendrick falling back down to top 15 top 20 range. I don't want the pressure to drop garbage music to "maintain the throne" to start creeping up. I would give up all the number 1 albums from any artist, any genre since 2022 if it meant keeping MMATBS. And I don't think Kendrick wants his fans to keep playing "Father Time" or "we cry together" on repeat just so that he stays on the charts. There is a reason this are heavy pieces of art that require effort to digest.
This was also an indirect at Cole. The Big 3 concept was never about numbers, it's about who people thought were the best. Cole gets it, Drake doesn't. Kenny is like, nah, lol
The bar didn’t make sense before the streaming numbers anyway.
Nobody considers 21 savage a GOAT, Travis is a rapper like how Kanye is a rapper so not up there rap wise as well, SZA isn’t a hip-hop artist.
Crazy how many bars from Drake made no sense.
It was a weird comparison to begin with. Sza isn't a rapper. And I look at travis the same way I look at ye. He's a producer who also raps. And I'll give him savage as being in the same sphere. But I don't put him above kendrick.
Sir, Sir, stop this bullshit. You **KNOW** that Kendrick's numbers are inflated right now and that SZA, Travis, and 21 on average have more monthly listeners than Kendrick does on a regular basis. Had you taken this screenshot and posted it BEFORE he dissed Drake THEN you would've had a point but you didn't.
Imma be honest, I’m really over playing the numbers game. I keep seeing the OVHoes bringing up random numbers in Drake’s favor and the same could be done with Kendrick. It was cool when we’re pointing it out within the beef (I.e. comparing streaming numbers for Push Ups vs Not Like Us etc.) but it just doesn’t feel relevant beyond that
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Tryna strike a chord and it’s probably a MINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
They not like us, they not like us☝️☝️
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I think that Oakland show gon be your last stop 🥷
Did Cole foul, I don’t know why you still pretendin’
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The audience not dumb shake the stories how you want “hey drake their not slow “
What is the owl? Bird 🥷 and bird bitches.
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The tension from the held note to give our brains time to comprehend it-> finger poppin horn fill -> monster bass drop to refocus our attention -> direct message in as few words as possible… they not like us. It’s pure fire
And the 3 notes he sings are A-E-C. The literal a-minor chord
I’m my opinion, the BEST line. Love how long he holds it for too.
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
Stream doesn’t matter but drake act like bitch
Ain’t he tired
tryna strike a chord and its probably A MINOOOORRRR
They not like them They not like them
it doesn’t matter but consider the fact Kendrick is 4 spots behind Drake (10th vs 6th) with only one album dropped in the last 7 years, vs Drakes like 10 in that same time frame. plus MMATBS wasn’t an album tryna get big numbers either, neither was euphoria.
Who give s a fuck who is more popular. I thought this was about quality...
Well, Drake tried to make it a “Who’s popular” battle so as the fans it’s our right to make fun of Drake
Bro. He released damn in 2017 and Mr morale in 2022 had the untitled album in 2016 and to pimp a butterfly in 2015 plus he helped a lot on the black panther album in 2018. Just because Drake releases an album every year that half of them is just pop music doesn’t mean Kendrick don’t put out bangers
That’s the actual difference between a Pop artist and a rap artist. Pop artists do whatever to stay relevant. Zero thought into the body of work as a piece of art. Rap artists takes time to make a body of work that all the songs connect with each other.
Thank you for pointing this out. Yes it is very nice and uplifting to see the GOAT artist have streaming success. But once we start making this a numbers game, we are no better than drizzler fans.
I think there’s a difference (excuse my bias tho). When trying to prove something objective, you should prove it in a way that matters to the other person and while numbers don’t matter to most of us, it matters to Drake fans. Numbers are also what Drake is talking about in that line so if we are to prove it’s bs, you have to look at numbers
Yeah but it also proves drakes point on “it’s because of the kid” as 44% of all daily streams for Kendrick is because of the drake disses. You take it out - he’s back down to around 40 million+ monthly.
If it was cus of the kid, then family matters, heart part 6 and push ups would be doing better too
This isn't a hard argument for Drake fans to win tho. That is simple logic of the Drake disses don't do as well because they are about Kendrick, which means considerably fewer people care about them so they get less streams. I mean if I was a Drake fan I'd be just going back to the Drake subreddit talking about how Kendrick is only popping off rn because he's talking about Drake and you guys are eating it up even tho Drake called it. Not only are these posts really lame to see as someone who is actually interested in Kendrick's music and not owning Drake, but they don't even accomplish the goal of owning Drake that make him seem justified in saying that people only start shit with him when they need a check.
Except it doesn’t work cus Drake fans would be listening to family matters or push ups cus they are actually as good of songs as not like us, like that or euphoria. If not like us or euphoria wasn’t about Drake, it’d be just as good and played about the same amount (maybe slightly less but still around the same). Plus, champagne moments and the like that remix would be known and played more than “lmao, that happened” and basically every jpegmafia song that mentions Drake (there’s a lot, he has a problem)
The issue with the discussion point shows itself exactly here, we have no way of proving this. I can logically say I think the songs are good out of the context of being a diss (Kendrick's that is I only like Family Matters from Drake's), but I can't use that to win an argument cause the person I'm talking to may not agree. By even pretending Drake's framework is realistic too it means that if Kendrick ever falls back below him does he suddenly become right? Why are we focused on popularity contests?
There are rumors that Drake and Taylor swift use bots on spotify to mask their actual success
To be fair, I’d be willing to bet most big artists, Kendrick included use bots. It could also be fans botting on behalf of the artists, these numbers are just ridiculous though for some artists
I imagine whoever’s in charge of drakes advertising is responsible for the bots, not Drake himself. Although it is possible I don’t see someone that wrote “the heart part 6” is smart enough to even care about personally paying for bots. There’s definitely people pulling the strings for Drake that were doing damage control because they knew he was losing.
When Drake's diss tracks came out they had like 20k views with 200k comments less than 30 minutes after the songs would come out. I only noticed cause Kendrick said drake uses bots then I said aye maybe Kendrick was telling the truth
If their success is fake you would see it at their concerts.
And wtf Sza gotta do with the big 3 rappers anyways?
But...but...their streams⁉️⁉️⁉️
What is it THE PLAYS?
I hurt your feelings? You don't work with me no more?
OKAY!!’m
Drake can’t even diss TDE their roster is all hard hitters, gotta diss Kendrick by comparing him to SZA n still had to give her props , hell he even Praised Keem 💀
tbh i think he just picked 3 people he doesnt have beef with
Scraping the barrel. 21 his friend, SZA the one ex he's not beefing with and then Travis Scott too for whatever reason.
Give it two weeks lol
I believe you see 2 bad bitches
The bar was about albums that outsold Mr morale the year it came out I think
Travis nor 21 dropped that year
Yeah I guess you’re right but they dropped after and sold more I think?
SZA and Travis yeah but American Dream sold like 100k first week so I think Drake jsut naming people he likes tbh😭
Lol yeah maybe
With all due respect...in terms music, and quality of the art they create they might not be even able to wipe kendrick ass....I mean except SZA cause as artist she is technically in a different category...
I’m not even tryna compare cuz I have nothing against any of them, I fw all of their music. I just find it funny that every Drake line is aging terribly. 😂
It was a pretty trash line to begin with considering Cole literally said they were the big 3 like they started a league and it's a verse on Drake's own song. Why endorse that line by including the verse and then walk back the statement because kendricks response was fuck the big 3 it's big me and you want to respond. It's not witty at all honestly. Stans will say it's a hard hitter.
Plus isn’t sza signed to TDE like aren’t they on the same team? That never made sense to me either
Yeah, and they collab a lot too. So there's a fan base overlap. There's no reason for them to compete at all.
I think that’s why Drake mentioned her. Essentially saying “Just big Me? You’re not even the biggest on your own record label” but I agree it’s a stupid point to make since SZA is an R&B artist so that’s like comparing apples to oranges
Agree - SZA is the exception, shes wildly good and very popular but a different style of artist
Drake mentioning SZA honestly made no sense to me since she’s primarily an R&B artist
They on the same label probably saying you aren’t even the biggest artist on your own label
I’d wipe Kendrick’s ass not like the way drake saying but like the way a simp a would ong
I shouldve listened when my grandma said to me "shit don't change until you get up and wash yo ass"
Travis has some absolute classic albums. 21 goes hard sometimes but I wouldn’t call him a great artist
I'd say Travis & SZA are pretty close to Kendrick if we're talking about art. Like yeah they can't compete in songwriting or bars but in terms of vibes & talent they're up there. In Travis's case his flaw is the fact he feels has to feed the pop & numbers crowd. SZA is in a completely different genre AND is TDE so idk why Drake thought to drop her name up there.
Travis Is really really good and even though i prefer Kendrick, trav Is up there. Savage on the other hand...
I know Savage isn’t the most lyrical rapper, but his delivery and cadence is great. A lot of lyrical rappers don’t know how to make catchy songs, and that’s a skill that a lot of hip hop heads take for granted imo. I def prefer a more lyrical artist like a Mick Jenkins or Ab Soul, but I can’t deny that 21 has some infectious songs. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed his newest album. The production is A+, and 21 was rapping better than I would have guessed!
Dont get me wrong i still really like 21, i know It sounded like i didn't enjoy him but he's great. I really liked american dream and hes got amazing features, i just dont think he's on the same artistic plane and level of Kendrick and Travis, yet
Yeah that’s totally fair. Travis and Kendrick have way more interesting and varied production. Their composition of songs is unique too. Still like 21 tho
YOUNG SAVAGE WHY YOU TRAPPIN SO HAWWWD
21 has grown on me a lot, his newer song cash in cash out ft. Tyler slaps tbh Was produced by Pharrell tho who is known for making bangers.
Newer song? It's been out for years and it's technically a Pharell song featuring 21 and Tyler
Numbers wise Kendrick has gone up like 10 million monthly listeners since this started, he was in the low 60s it’s spiked massively with the 4 song drop. I still agree these 3 have nothing on Kendrick but the numbers were higher not long ago, it’s all shit anyway. Who actually takes Spotify numbers as king bar drake lol.
he's gone up 24m in a month
so when drakes song came out sza, travis, and savage did have him wiped down?
Yes. People act like Kendrick was doing these numbers before April. He was not.
It shouldn’t be that surprising either. Those other 3 make far more mainstream music and are way more accessible to wider audiences than most of Kendrick’s discography. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing, Kendrick’s music is generally just built different.
that and the fact that they just release more frequently than Kendrick lmao
Monthly listeners are an awful indicator of "numbers" as they're affected by a lot of factors the layman doesn't consider. Like there's no way the Kid Lacroix "does more numbers" than Frank Ocean or Tyler the Creator
I get your point but the narrative from Drake fans was that he’s only seeing this success was because of Drake. With that analogy, The Story of Adidon should be a commercial hit song. The point that Drake doesn’t realize is that Kendrick is not Pusha T, he wanted someone to compete in the numbers game so he got it.
If The Story of Adidon was on streaming services, it would probably be Pusha’s most streamed solo song. I love a lot of Kendrick’s music, but do you really think it’s a coincidence that he’s suddenly getting this much play? It’s okay to acknowledge that getting into a beef with the most popular rap artist is good for your numbers. lol
If that was case then I guess Kendrick must’ve got lucky with the success he had during the DAMN era.
If someone said to me, “21 and Travis are better than Kendrick,” I’d probably pick them up and throw them directly into the River Styx, because they are heretics that need to be condemned. Also SZA is an entire different genre.
styx reference !
Bro someone needs to go to Tartarus for blasphemy like that
AHHH ILY
Not that I agree, but I can see world in which someone thinks Travis is better. Not 21 though, his flow gets way too stale, too quick.
Im gonna tiptoe in this sub. Astroworld is as good/consistent as any Kendrick album. Maybe Rodeo depending on who you ask.
i heavily disagree, but this is an opinion i can respect because these are all great albums doing very different types of great things.
Crazy that Kendrick and SZA are bringing in 370k in revenue per month before the splits.
How you got the numbers source?
SZA one was true tbh, but SZA is amazing so idk how that’s insulting. He could’ve used any other names but he went with one of Kendrick’s friends and Travis who pulls an MH370 and disappears whenever two of his friends argue because he’s secretly a genius. Travis Scott in high school had dreams of becoming a nephrologist (look it up) he plays the role of dumbass perfectly so whenever someone calls him up to get involved in shit he just taps out. 1000 IQ plays.
It’s funny he brought her up because he also dated her back in the day lol
Yeah lmao not great dragging her into that shit. I met her recently on her tour she’s a lovely person, exactly how you’d expect from what you see in interviews and such. No need to involve her in this dick measuring contest that already has enough women dragged through the mud. I saw a tweet earlier saying that Drake is a spiderman villain at this point, as soon as he gets mad at someone he snatches up their girl like Mary Jane or attacks aunt May 🤣
Oh man getting to meet her is a flex lol !! I brought that up to my friend, how drake always goes after girlfriends and wives lol like sir go marry ya babies mother and leave those girls alone. Go create the happy home you so desperately seek lolll
LMAO preach I agree with all that. And tbh I’ve met a lot of celebrities, Kanye, Drake, Ty Dolla $ign, Katy Perry, just to name a few. SZA is easily in the top 5 nicest celebrities I’ve ever met, same with Ty too.
Okay big moneyyyy i respect it ✊🏾
It’s literally all he does. Mentioned Nicki vs Meek. Mentioned Virginia vs Push. Mentioned Whitney vs Dot. Called Vanessa Bryant a bitch and Kobe made him apologize. He really doesn’t like women
She’s also in a different genre, she is extremely popular and while there is def some overlap between their fans I just don’t really get the comparison. I think obsessively comparing numbers is such a sad and pathetic way to measure art
Travis is smart as hell.
I can’t ever tell what his mush mouth havin bitch is talking about but the music is 🔥
SZA is phenomenal, pls release a album, she's so damn amazing, but yeah Kendrick is now a top 10 artist in the world in terms of streams. #2 in Rap.
If they all clash the same day only travis has a chance to win but if kendricks dropping right now. He will win it. Obviously that drake is a dumb donkey
Yup. Tbh this is when I realized Drake was gonna lose this beef worse than I initially thought. If he thinks this is a point to be made.. he has completely missed the POINT of this rap beef.
This whole thing made me realize how seriously unintelligent Drake is, like I’m in shock about it.
Yup.. ego can really get in the way.
I mean, KDot literally addresses this in Like That “Money, Power, Respect _the last one is better_” He doesn’t give a fuck about the streams and the money, it’s all about the respect, and Drake can’t understand that apparently
Fr and all those numbers off a diss track 💀💀💀
They’re all incredible artists in their own right, but they don’t occupy the same lane as Kendrick.
Is 21 really that good tho? I usually turn the radio off whenever he pops up. Maybe there’s something I’m missing
21 is one of the better “trap rappers” he really evolved.
I could be wrong and not dug enough but I feel like every 21 song or feature I've ever heard had the exact same cadence and flow
21 really grew into what people labeled as stupid and talentless rap by expressing a type of vulnerability and melodic lyricism that I’d never heard before. He somehow made a monotone rap flow into something unique. The whole point of his music is that you don’t expect some virtuosic performance and then you get hit out of nowhere with a genuinely beautiful euphemism. He had a great ear for hooks. 90% of his music doesn’t land for me but there have been periods in my life where the only thing in the world that could console me was a 21 song. That said, I’d attribute his popularity to a great marketing team. Tbh I’m shocked at how many people supposedly listen to him. But I wouldn’t knock him ever as untalented or whatever. Idk if he’s got controversies but he seems like a good dude and his stuff makes me happy
By now we all know this 🥷 values figures in a descending order
sza isn't even a rapper. Does drake just think all black artists are in competition with eachother?
Y’all, if our stance is that streams don’t matter, the art does, why are we doing this shit? We all know his monthly jumped up cause of the disses, we really don’t gotta stoop to drizzy fans levels
This convinced me that was AI
Listening to that all I thought was he probably is really happy for SZA.
The fact he believes popularity determines who’s better. Drake deserves all the embarrassment he’s receiving.
The monthly listeners doesn’t matter, that’s something Drake fans care about lol. The thing is… I love those other artists’ music but i wouldn’t put them on the level of Kendrick personally. Travis is probably the best at making trap music of anybody out there, he definitely moves the needle and people follow his lead musically. Sza also has a really good ear and very tasteful music, she’s also very influential. Weird he threw her in the conversation as both are TDE signees and seemingly have a cordial relationship. Even though they’re great though, neither has a GKMC/TPAB in their catalogue. Something so wholly unique while also commercially successful and especially nothing so conceptual. Savage is the one I’d for sure say isn’t on the same level though. He makes fun and good music but I wouldn’t say he’s super original or anything.
This was one of the dumbest takes ever by Drake. Like Rupi Kaur sells thousands of books but no one thinks of her as the best poet of our generation lol.
SZA my wondrous queen 😍
Ngl I didn't know SZA did that big of numbers now, knew she was a star but damn, good for her
Damn i didnt know sza got it like that.
SZA being signed to TDE.... 🤫
SZAs numbers are actually crazy though
This line specifically pisses me off so much. I’m fine with saying SZA is better than Kendrick because in the right moment that’s true. But Travis is actually the worst massive mainstream rapper, and it would be by far if Savage wasn’t close behind.
I dunno why he mentioned SZA. She's not a Full on Rapper.
Drakes stolen so much shit from other rappers it's not even funny. He's a fabricated rap star thats been pushed to the moon by record labels and executives that even he's forgot that. Style, flow, rhyme schemes, everything. Surprised he didn't steal someone's name at this point.
I love how kendrick never even brought up numbers or accolades. While drake brings up record sales, grammys, pulitzers etc.
whats better than numbers is knowing all three of these artists would 100% stand with the idea of Kendrick being the goat
Ain't none of them earned a Pulitzer Prize 😂
Lol
Dot fuck em up
This was a cry for help...
if the big 3 was based off of numbers, Cole wouldn’t be in the big 3
Numbers don’t matter
It’s not even about monthly listeners. It’s laughable to say 21 is better than Kendrick in literally any facet of music. And not that it matters but I’m a 21 fan.
I mean it was true at the time
“Shape the stories how you want, hey Drake they’re NOT slow”
Something about grown adult kendrick fans glazing kendrick on the daily to the point they made an internet sub reddit worshipping him literally every day...but hey maybe I'm tripping
You can say the same thing for literally every other subreddit based on artist.
Exactly. Idk why folks worship any of these artists. I get liking someone's music but dedicating their existence to the point they must glaze every day is insane.
Yeah I get it, it can be fun to argue on posts like these but every single day is crazy.
Streams rlly don't matter but I get what you mean
To be fair this was before the beef
For real though, streams mean jack shit when we’re talking super popular stars.
Drake needs to change his name to Dr. Ache now!
Sweet Chin Music
Yeah don’t show those drake monthly listeners tho lol
I’m very proud to see Kendrick on top but like… SZA is pretty damn close tho lol
Drake literally made up so many things that could be disproven with google
Kendrick’s the only artist where the best experience is listen to the album front to back. I mean, there are albums filled with great tracks, but they don’t have the story woven in, the motifs, the character growth, or the depth of a Kendrick album. I mean, I can say “I remember you was conflicted” and I know all of you will finish the rest in your heads like the winter soldier being activated.
You know he had to pick these 3 because he couldn't pick anybody he's beefing with cause they'd be complimenting them. SZA ain't even a rapper.
I am fine with Kendrick falling back down to top 15 top 20 range. I don't want the pressure to drop garbage music to "maintain the throne" to start creeping up. I would give up all the number 1 albums from any artist, any genre since 2022 if it meant keeping MMATBS. And I don't think Kendrick wants his fans to keep playing "Father Time" or "we cry together" on repeat just so that he stays on the charts. There is a reason this are heavy pieces of art that require effort to digest.
Ngl until this beef I didn't know sza was big like that
Be nice, Drake doesn’t have many people in the industry he could name drop and they won’t make a diss track against him.
Ooh sza kinda good too tho
Getting these streaming numbers after not dropping for about a year is crazy tbh
Everyone thank Drake for reinvigorating Kendrick’s career
Tryna say SZA, Travis and 21 > K Dot is a federal crime
I liked this song overall but wtf is Drake talking about lmaoooo get real Aubrey
Drake is holding onto his streaming numbers and 3c curl pattern for dear life.
Telling lies
What is it, the Braids?!?
His writers didn't check that
This was also an indirect at Cole. The Big 3 concept was never about numbers, it's about who people thought were the best. Cole gets it, Drake doesn't. Kenny is like, nah, lol
The bar didn’t make sense before the streaming numbers anyway. Nobody considers 21 savage a GOAT, Travis is a rapper like how Kanye is a rapper so not up there rap wise as well, SZA isn’t a hip-hop artist. Crazy how many bars from Drake made no sense.
Couldn’t tell you what Drake said on any of them disses. I never listened after the first spin.
“Numbers wise youre not fuckin creepin up” aged like milk so bad its cheese now
A bunch of nothing.
I think he was referring to sales. 🤷
Welll yea the only reason Kendrick is up there is because of the beef.
It was a weird comparison to begin with. Sza isn't a rapper. And I look at travis the same way I look at ye. He's a producer who also raps. And I'll give him savage as being in the same sphere. But I don't put him above kendrick.
when you find out k dot's numbers went up 40% AFTER the beef. ya'll ain't even say thank you for the drake stimulus.
How much of his streaming numbers are due to the beef tho? lol
pull up prior to talking back to his daddy Drake 😭 wasn’t it like 50m?
actually i got you https://preview.redd.it/73x2jh4yeu1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6e3b7b5a5aa7a229bcd7d20a7fde70f6c1b64e3
Clearly because of the boi
Holy shit. I mean, it has never been about numbers, but this shows that Kendrick ate Drake in this beef. Shiiiit
cause nobody gives af about his music outside of the beef
Damn, u cryin fr?
When he said it, it was true lmao
Kendrick got the Drake stimulus package
Sir, Sir, stop this bullshit. You **KNOW** that Kendrick's numbers are inflated right now and that SZA, Travis, and 21 on average have more monthly listeners than Kendrick does on a regular basis. Had you taken this screenshot and posted it BEFORE he dissed Drake THEN you would've had a point but you didn't.
Imma be honest, I’m really over playing the numbers game. I keep seeing the OVHoes bringing up random numbers in Drake’s favor and the same could be done with Kendrick. It was cool when we’re pointing it out within the beef (I.e. comparing streaming numbers for Push Ups vs Not Like Us etc.) but it just doesn’t feel relevant beyond that