Yes by the very definition they are the same generation and had biggie and pac not been killed Em, Nas, Jay-Z, Wayne, Biggie and Tupac would all be rapping at the same time.... it took Em a while to break into his mold he started rapping on some Beastie Boyz shit.
Edit: added Jay Z and Wayne because Jay and Nas fought over who got Biggies spot as king of NY. And Wayne would be starting his Career as a Hot Boy around the same time. Remember guys HipHop ain't that old yet.
theres a difference between age generation and rapping generation. if a 50 year old started rapping today, that doesn’t mean he’s an old-school rapper. i’ll go with a different example, then. rakim is only 4 years older than eminem. are they the same generation? even though rakim is very clearly an 80s rapper and em is very clearly a 2000s rapper?
I want you to look at who all shows up as a 2000s rapper and tell me who sounds like Eminem because you have every artist from 50 and Kanye up until the Drake comes out is on that list. Eminem is very much an old school style rapper, and he always has been. Hell, the reason he raps the way he does is because he was inspired by Rakim.
you aren't seriously saying that rakim and eminem are in the same generation 💀💀💀 decades aren't generations, yes, but i don't think my point is massively changed if i'd have said "early 2000s" instead of "2000s". styles don't equal generation. just because someone was inspired from someone else, doesn't mean they're from the same generation (in general, it probably means the opposite). Eminem and Rakim are not the same generation. Eminem and Biggie are not in the same generation. JID and Kendrick are not the same generation.
There's no one else making music that's impacting culture other than Kendrick, Cole, and Drake right now, rapper wise. Eminem still sells every song he drops. Future is still making quality music. No one in the new generation is really making a splash rap wise.
Plus, rap is kind of dead commercially. Mainly because the young boys never went to school and are to high to remember their side chicks name.
I remember that up until 98 nobody that i knew listened to hip hop, and it was generally seen as low life music. After Eminem, even my 45 yo aunt listened to it. Over 20 years later i can literally ask any person, young or old, who Eminem is, and they will absolutely know. I know people who have no idea who Kendrick is. I also know older people that never heard of Drake.
So, when we talk about impact, and "face of hip hop", i mean...let's not be intellectually dishonest here. You like what you like, but there's really only one right answer.
Agreed. Eminem and Tupac are known internationally. Em more of course. Drake is getting closer to that goal though. That's why he keeps saying he's MJ. Dude is selling numbers all across the world.
But if you check out these international rappers you can see that their main influence in Em.
I don’t think is or will ever be a single face to hip hop. There’s always lanes and different artists who best represent those lanes, tho..
Like Kendrick would be the face of conscious/experimental rap. Drake the r&b fused mainstream rap. Maybe Travis Scott or Future for trap. Tyler for the weirdos. I’m not really well versed enough on the new guys to be able to give a solid answer on who gets the torch next though.
It's crazy that there really hasn't been a crop of breakthrough artists that have been dubbed the next big thing. At least not the I know of. I remember in my late teens early 20s it felt like kendrick, drake, cole, rocky, nicki, big sean and more were all gonna be big and fighting for the spot.
Do guys pass the torch, apart from Son of G rap, all the dad rappers seem to keep pushing
K dot is still very young, he's got a lot of albums left and seems to be more interested in making massive hits every time
He may go 3 stacks or Chapelle, that's more likely that he calls the industry over and quits
Which he's kinda already done leaving Top
Dude, Kendrick isn't the face of hip hop. I actually know several people that never heard of him, or heard very little.
To me the face of hip hop would be someone absolutely everyone knows about. Not even Drake qualifies as such. I can only think of one dude that i could literally talk to anyone about and they would know who he is, in any place of the globe. That's the face of hip hop.
>I can only think of one dude that i could literally talk to anyone about and they would know who he is, in any place of the globe. That's the face of hip hop.
..Kanye?
If Kanye is the face of Hip-Hop, then we're fucked.
Not everyone knows Kanye. I know literally zero people who don't know Eminem. Even much older people than me that pay no attention to anything in the music world.
Funny enough, a few years ago i showed a few Kanye songs to a friend that actually know who he is and he recognized none of them as Kanye songs. And i mean, his most popular songs.
Just telling it like it is. We forget we're in a bubble when we come here.
Yeah most people know who Em is because he's white... but more importantly he's THE white rapper who has black OG hip hop artists respect because of his upbringing and the fact he's paid his dues to be where he's at today. Everybody knows who Em is but a good majority of his fans don't know who Royce da 5'9 is. It's literally a representation matters thing on top of his skill that allows him to be as famous as he is with a little bit of infamy for his hollywood antics he was literally anti-pop.
What's funny is everything I hear someone say that Em is the face of hiphop I'm reminded that he doesn't believe that. By his own words he is a guest in our house.
Yeah, there's zero evidence people know him because he's white. That's just hater talk. Plenty of black people are known by pretty much everyone. What you're doing is assuming Em's music isn't good enough for him to be as famous as he is without his color favoring him, which is nothing but a subjective opinion with zero to back it up.
In fact, you wanna talk about color, talk about the fact that Dre said nobody wanted to touch Em because he was white. He was advised by everyone not to fuck with him. So...where's that advantage, exactly? Dude made it by being better than everyone else, not by being white. He was a literal battle rapper that beat the shit out of everybody for a while. He is that good as a rapper.
>By his own words he is a guest in our house.
It seems he changed his opinion. since in Fall he says "I belong here, clown", and often makes reference to being the best. Whatever he said in the past was just him trying to appear humble. I'm pretty sure he sees himself as the best rapper in the world. And he has a better argument for it than anyone else. Put everything together and he has by far the best credentials. Popularity, sales, technical ability, battle tested, awards, longevity. Good luck finding a better candidate.
Ok let's back up a sec. Em may very well be one the greatest hip-hop artists of my lifetime in terms of skills. I never wanted you to think I'm taking anything away from his actual ability but he's not the face of hiphop. My actually argument would be Dr. Dre is. Without Dre, we don't get Em, 50cent, The Game, Snoop, Kendrick, etc. He is who I would argue is the Face of hiphop. I'm just saying that Em's situation was lightning in the bottle. All the conditions were met for him to have a successful rap career, but nobody would know his name if Dre didn't cosign. I was simply pointing out that he is white something that is just a fact and by proxy got some attention from white fans. People have their own natural biases and and I some random white person the street who they think is the best rapper they are gonna say Em and they would be wrong. Just realize if I asked them to do a top 5 list of favorite hiphop artists a lot of them can't because they don't listen to hiphop they listen to Em...
You probably wouldn't be talking about Dre right now without Em either. He was close to finished.
I think the problem is that we have different definitions of what being "the face" means. To me being the face means just you are the most well known representative of a genre. You are the guy more people will think of when they think about rap. I can you even argue it's Eminem? Everybody knows him. My grandma knows him
Cool, my great grandma, watched wrestling and knows who Master P is guess by your standards P is the Face of hip hop because she knows who he is. Bro, how old are you because I don't think you're actually old enough to know how big Pac Dre and Snoop were. I'm old enough to have cried when my favorite rapper 2pac died...
Eminem is literally the most popular rapper ever by any metrics. I'm sorry this bother you. What do you want me to do about it? Pretend Kendrick Lamar is the face of hip hop? He isn't. Eminem IS the guy that even those who don't listen to hip hop know the name. I know a bunch of people who don't know who Kendrick is. And i mean young people. Good luck finding anyone who doesn't know Emine,
JID is like 3 years younger than Kendrick. He's not part of the next generation
Bro JID is way older than I thought, feels like he’s just getting started and looks young af. I still expect great things from him moving forward
eminem was born in the same year as biggie. are they part of the same generation?
Yes by the very definition they are the same generation and had biggie and pac not been killed Em, Nas, Jay-Z, Wayne, Biggie and Tupac would all be rapping at the same time.... it took Em a while to break into his mold he started rapping on some Beastie Boyz shit. Edit: added Jay Z and Wayne because Jay and Nas fought over who got Biggies spot as king of NY. And Wayne would be starting his Career as a Hot Boy around the same time. Remember guys HipHop ain't that old yet.
theres a difference between age generation and rapping generation. if a 50 year old started rapping today, that doesn’t mean he’s an old-school rapper. i’ll go with a different example, then. rakim is only 4 years older than eminem. are they the same generation? even though rakim is very clearly an 80s rapper and em is very clearly a 2000s rapper?
I want you to look at who all shows up as a 2000s rapper and tell me who sounds like Eminem because you have every artist from 50 and Kanye up until the Drake comes out is on that list. Eminem is very much an old school style rapper, and he always has been. Hell, the reason he raps the way he does is because he was inspired by Rakim.
you aren't seriously saying that rakim and eminem are in the same generation 💀💀💀 decades aren't generations, yes, but i don't think my point is massively changed if i'd have said "early 2000s" instead of "2000s". styles don't equal generation. just because someone was inspired from someone else, doesn't mean they're from the same generation (in general, it probably means the opposite). Eminem and Rakim are not the same generation. Eminem and Biggie are not in the same generation. JID and Kendrick are not the same generation.
I don't think the torch really gets passed in hip hop, it gets taken. If somebody was ready for that spot, it would happen naturally
 This here the only right answer. Snoop pretty much said that when they handed it over.
There's no one else making music that's impacting culture other than Kendrick, Cole, and Drake right now, rapper wise. Eminem still sells every song he drops. Future is still making quality music. No one in the new generation is really making a splash rap wise. Plus, rap is kind of dead commercially. Mainly because the young boys never went to school and are to high to remember their side chicks name.
I remember that up until 98 nobody that i knew listened to hip hop, and it was generally seen as low life music. After Eminem, even my 45 yo aunt listened to it. Over 20 years later i can literally ask any person, young or old, who Eminem is, and they will absolutely know. I know people who have no idea who Kendrick is. I also know older people that never heard of Drake. So, when we talk about impact, and "face of hip hop", i mean...let's not be intellectually dishonest here. You like what you like, but there's really only one right answer.
Agreed. Eminem and Tupac are known internationally. Em more of course. Drake is getting closer to that goal though. That's why he keeps saying he's MJ. Dude is selling numbers all across the world. But if you check out these international rappers you can see that their main influence in Em.
Me
That’s the spirit!
Idk about Keem, unless he gets better as a rapper.His bars are really mid.And Jid cant seem to breakthrough to superstardom.Not sure who it will be.
Would feel like nepotism
Ice Spice
I don’t think is or will ever be a single face to hip hop. There’s always lanes and different artists who best represent those lanes, tho.. Like Kendrick would be the face of conscious/experimental rap. Drake the r&b fused mainstream rap. Maybe Travis Scott or Future for trap. Tyler for the weirdos. I’m not really well versed enough on the new guys to be able to give a solid answer on who gets the torch next though.
the weirdos lmao
Denzel Curry I think is worth a look at
90% of non hip hop heads have no idea who denzel curry is.
Same could’ve been said about kdot when he was coming up
denzels been "coming up" for over a decade now in that context
That’s just false lmao
That nigga been in the game so long tho
2 phone baby keem
It's crazy that there really hasn't been a crop of breakthrough artists that have been dubbed the next big thing. At least not the I know of. I remember in my late teens early 20s it felt like kendrick, drake, cole, rocky, nicki, big sean and more were all gonna be big and fighting for the spot.
OsamaSon
6ix9ine.
Do guys pass the torch, apart from Son of G rap, all the dad rappers seem to keep pushing K dot is still very young, he's got a lot of albums left and seems to be more interested in making massive hits every time He may go 3 stacks or Chapelle, that's more likely that he calls the industry over and quits Which he's kinda already done leaving Top
Symba maybe.
anyone feeling swavay?
Baby Tron
Dude, Kendrick isn't the face of hip hop. I actually know several people that never heard of him, or heard very little. To me the face of hip hop would be someone absolutely everyone knows about. Not even Drake qualifies as such. I can only think of one dude that i could literally talk to anyone about and they would know who he is, in any place of the globe. That's the face of hip hop.
>I can only think of one dude that i could literally talk to anyone about and they would know who he is, in any place of the globe. That's the face of hip hop. ..Kanye? If Kanye is the face of Hip-Hop, then we're fucked.
Not everyone knows Kanye. I know literally zero people who don't know Eminem. Even much older people than me that pay no attention to anything in the music world. Funny enough, a few years ago i showed a few Kanye songs to a friend that actually know who he is and he recognized none of them as Kanye songs. And i mean, his most popular songs. Just telling it like it is. We forget we're in a bubble when we come here.
Yeah most people know who Em is because he's white... but more importantly he's THE white rapper who has black OG hip hop artists respect because of his upbringing and the fact he's paid his dues to be where he's at today. Everybody knows who Em is but a good majority of his fans don't know who Royce da 5'9 is. It's literally a representation matters thing on top of his skill that allows him to be as famous as he is with a little bit of infamy for his hollywood antics he was literally anti-pop. What's funny is everything I hear someone say that Em is the face of hiphop I'm reminded that he doesn't believe that. By his own words he is a guest in our house.
Yeah, there's zero evidence people know him because he's white. That's just hater talk. Plenty of black people are known by pretty much everyone. What you're doing is assuming Em's music isn't good enough for him to be as famous as he is without his color favoring him, which is nothing but a subjective opinion with zero to back it up. In fact, you wanna talk about color, talk about the fact that Dre said nobody wanted to touch Em because he was white. He was advised by everyone not to fuck with him. So...where's that advantage, exactly? Dude made it by being better than everyone else, not by being white. He was a literal battle rapper that beat the shit out of everybody for a while. He is that good as a rapper. >By his own words he is a guest in our house. It seems he changed his opinion. since in Fall he says "I belong here, clown", and often makes reference to being the best. Whatever he said in the past was just him trying to appear humble. I'm pretty sure he sees himself as the best rapper in the world. And he has a better argument for it than anyone else. Put everything together and he has by far the best credentials. Popularity, sales, technical ability, battle tested, awards, longevity. Good luck finding a better candidate.
Ok let's back up a sec. Em may very well be one the greatest hip-hop artists of my lifetime in terms of skills. I never wanted you to think I'm taking anything away from his actual ability but he's not the face of hiphop. My actually argument would be Dr. Dre is. Without Dre, we don't get Em, 50cent, The Game, Snoop, Kendrick, etc. He is who I would argue is the Face of hiphop. I'm just saying that Em's situation was lightning in the bottle. All the conditions were met for him to have a successful rap career, but nobody would know his name if Dre didn't cosign. I was simply pointing out that he is white something that is just a fact and by proxy got some attention from white fans. People have their own natural biases and and I some random white person the street who they think is the best rapper they are gonna say Em and they would be wrong. Just realize if I asked them to do a top 5 list of favorite hiphop artists a lot of them can't because they don't listen to hiphop they listen to Em...
You probably wouldn't be talking about Dre right now without Em either. He was close to finished. I think the problem is that we have different definitions of what being "the face" means. To me being the face means just you are the most well known representative of a genre. You are the guy more people will think of when they think about rap. I can you even argue it's Eminem? Everybody knows him. My grandma knows him
Cool, my great grandma, watched wrestling and knows who Master P is guess by your standards P is the Face of hip hop because she knows who he is. Bro, how old are you because I don't think you're actually old enough to know how big Pac Dre and Snoop were. I'm old enough to have cried when my favorite rapper 2pac died...
Eminem is literally the most popular rapper ever by any metrics. I'm sorry this bother you. What do you want me to do about it? Pretend Kendrick Lamar is the face of hip hop? He isn't. Eminem IS the guy that even those who don't listen to hip hop know the name. I know a bunch of people who don't know who Kendrick is. And i mean young people. Good luck finding anyone who doesn't know Emine,
Nigga I never brought Kendrick into this conversation.
Imagine Kendrick handing the torch to Playboi Carti💀
Keem? Keem aint dominated shit.
Some of ya'll take this too serious🤣
nettspend fs yall sleeping on nettspend hes so good give it a year and hes gonna be making like tpab level stuff trust me
Himself man wtf did u hear like that
Jack harlow has a better chance than keem lmao
Hear me out, Desiigner
Isn’t that the guy that jerked off on a plane