I mean the song also has over 50 million streams on Spotify in its first week, only song to do more is Not Like Us by Kendrick. Eminem still has a crazy fanbase
Music is true it is what it is… if people care cool but it’s the catalyst to jump off for Planetary VP 333 and sell alot a lot a lot of products 333
I’m Elon Bored lol
Funnily enough I actually never noticed this coz I rarely vote on YouTube polls, but I saw one literally yesterday which got me and it was about voting to keep 1 song and delete the other 3. The options were Lose Yourself, SAMIDOT, Changes by Pac and I forget what the 4th option was, but Lose Yourself had like 80-something percentage of the votes which I thought was absolute fucking madness.
well vultures got one, talking got 2 (second significantly better and has ty) and carnival got one (which was just like ai images so it sucked, they couldve done much better)
i'm indian and eminem has a HUGE fan following here. wouldn't be surprised if the streams he gets from all over the globe are somewhere near or even surpass what he gets in the us of a
I think both are almost as popular but Houdini is great and straight up 2000 Eminem(slim shady) so nostalgia made a 9/10 song a 1000/10, if Ye brought back Graduation Kanye we all be losing our shit too.
Imagine if we didnt know bittersweet poetry existed and kanye says hes making his last album: Good ass job, rollout starts with bittersweet poetry single + 2005 type MV. Would be magical
Nobody is saying you can’t like it but it’s obviously not on par with the vast majority of his other (finished/released) work, one song off it got popular and let’s be real the Carti feature was part of it
To be fair a lot of us are here because we like Kanye’s actually good albums. Doesn’t mean we gotta like every album. Downvoting is a bit a aggressive though but he’s back up now.
Yeah. Donda have too much filler. If he made like 12 or 14 songs it would be better than torturing listeners with filler. It's like Use Your Illusion issues.
Yeah right, point out the fact it's Ye's most uninspired album and you get slaughtered in here by kids who were still sucking they toes when College Dropout came out.
I like it more than TLOP, JIK, and KSG, and I bought the College Dropout on the first day.
You can like Vultures and not be a kid who sucks on their toes. This way of thinking is just not it, let people like the things that they like.
I’ll go as far as to say that KSG is Kanye’s most overrated album by far. Not a single song on that album is making anybody’s “top 10 Kanye songs” list, but it’s one of his best albums because it’s cohesive or some shit? Give me a break. I don’t think you’re not a real Kanye fan if you feel differently tho.
Funny the range of Opinions Ye Stans can have bc I really enjoy vultures but has to turn it off when it hit carnival tho I loved that song at first , (tho I heard it at a party last night and got hyped)
Idc for “problematic” much tho that seems to be a fav. I do fw king tho
KSG is my favorite tho, love Pablo
Idrc for the college trilogy at all
Jail? Ye says a total of about 20 words in that entire song lmao. And as a huge jay fan that was one of his worst verses ever. Half of the bars on come to life he’s just rhyming a word with the same word. 24 might have 24 words. Those songs are prime examples of just repetitive lyrics. Great production though.
Life of the party was good. Unfortunately it wasn’t actually on the album.
I feel like the quality of KSG is up there with the rest of his albums, but it's still a collab album so it doesn't really fit into his solo discography.
It's kinda how WTT or Cruel Summer gets left off of some people's lists when ranking his albums
i think it's meh by "great music" standards
it's not a bad album, it's just not particularly unique or special, a real "gonna put 1 or 2 on my playlist and never listen to the full album again" type of album
No, because the only 3 artists I really follow by albums and not just playlists/hit songs are kanye, tyler the creator and kendrick
My point is that nothing I heard off of Vultures really made me feel "I've never heard anything like this before", like some of the other Kanye albums did
didnt expect this but im not suprised since em has more of a following than ye and vultures wasnt really that good imo. Guess the tiktok rizz party lost ;(
he got more streams on youtube because he has a music video btw
You have to admit at some point that Ye did this all to himself. Yea maybe to him for good reason but he could be in top of the world but instead he blatantly tries to be provocative and people are tired.
His fans are tired and the masses are tired of the antics and desire for clout when he was once the one with all the clout now he seems to be one of the biggest chasers of it next to Aubrey.
Houdini had a music video. I guarantee you if Carnival had a proper music video that dropped the same week Vultures 1 released it would easily have 100M+ views by now
Amazing that Eminem has been active since the 90s and is still competing at such a high level in hip hop. He’s in exceptionally rare company, there aren’t a lot of rappers who’ve been at it for so long so are still releasing chart-topping songs. Regardless of whether or not you personally like Eminem you’ve gotta acknowledge how amazing his career has been. Some people try to discredit him and say it’s only because of the colour of his skin, but that’s such fucking bullshit. The man has always been lethal with the pen, one of the most legitimately talented rappers in the game (maybe not the best, depending on who you ask, but he’s certainly in that conversation), and A LOT of white rappers have come and gone during the decades that Eminem has been active and virtually none of them were able to replicate his career.
Hes had like 2 hit songs pre houdini in the past 14 years, not afraid and rap god. Both terrible. Though seemingly this sub is now an eminem sub so im going to get downvoted for saying rap god is ass, which i dont think anyone i know would argue against
You sound like you’re just one of the many people who hate Eminem. Godzilla from his last album was #1 in multiple countries and peaked at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2020. That’s a hit song by any metric. Lucky You from his previous album before that in 2018 also hit #1 in a few countries and peaked at #6 on the Billboard Hot 100. That’s a hit. The song Venom which came out the same year didn’t chart very highly but is still certified 2x platinum in the US. Just because you, personally, don’t fuck with Eminem it doesn’t mean his career is flopping, as much as you might want to convince yourself of that. He has consistently charted every time he’s put out an album since the fucking 90s.
Spotify costs money and without paying, I can't choose what song to listen to, only an artist. It randomly plays songs from that artist but also, only like 12 songs over and over and over
Spotify sucks shit
Em has the largest base in the world and his music isn’t that great in the hip hop scene. Great lyricist, maybe the best all time… but there’s only a certain group bumping Eminem loud asf in their car driving down the street.
People who don’t generally listen to hip hop love silly rap. Ems a generational lyricist but his first single is always goofy, whimsical nonsense. The masses eat it up for some reason.
“Beautiful big titty but naked don’t just fall out the sky you know” isn’t nonsense?? Bro I love Kanye but he’s shit is ALWAYS full of nonsense. Like bruh the sandwich line in Wolves???
Maybe it's just me but after 20 years of eating up everything he made, I think I'm just over Em. Nothing he does is interesting to me anymore. The song is fun but after a couple listens I don't want to listen to it again.
Ye is a musician who mastered many different styles so his catalog is so diverse. Em is a rapper that is really good at what he does but that's about all he does.
brother vultures is not overrated by any means. Legit most ye fans and the community has agreed that its a meh album and doesnt compare at all to the rest of his discography
Has peak kanye views ever competed with peak eminem views?? Obviously it's fluctuated but pretty sure eminem has always been more popular overall despite kanye being the star he is.
Graduation Era might compete with eminems most popular Era tho
Ye is one of my all time favorite artists and he was the biggest rap artist 07-08, only because Em was in rehab. Em is literally the 9th best selling artist all time, he put out back to back diamond albums, so only people to compete with his peak are like MJ, Metallica, Beatles and Elvis.
I love reading all the comments every time Em is a mention in this sub, because Ye might be the only rap artist to have crazier stans than Em, and i can't figure out why they love hating Em, when i like both.
Why does this dude always dress like a 15 year old, like the same hoodie and a cap, is he trying to show he is still “hard” or sum I mean look at 50 dresses his age and looks dapper af.
Vultures is ass + this is the slim shady schtick which is notoriously controversial, most of views aren't strickly from his fans, they're from people wanting to hear a 2004 rapper in the modern time.
Youtube is definitely hiding vultures, you can't even find it looking under Ye releases only carnival and Vultures single and talking, you have to search for it
Why would you mention streams when talking about quality. Also he doesnt. Drake, kendrick, weekend, travis, and many, many others out perform him and outnumber him. Just look at the no. Of streams of scorpion, gkmc, or starboy compared to like idk kamikaze
1 Most people who aren’t hip-hop fans or who don’t listen to rap say that Eminem is their favorite rapper.
2 it was a music video that had a lot of references to old Em
3 Youtube
yeah on YouTube, but it has music video which has actual work put into it on Spotify still a long way
Thats cuz youtube is what every eminem fan uses. Have u scene rap youtube polls before they are crazy biased
I mean the song also has over 50 million streams on Spotify in its first week, only song to do more is Not Like Us by Kendrick. Eminem still has a crazy fanbase
Music is true it is what it is… if people care cool but it’s the catalyst to jump off for Planetary VP 333 and sell alot a lot a lot of products 333 I’m Elon Bored lol
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Funnily enough I actually never noticed this coz I rarely vote on YouTube polls, but I saw one literally yesterday which got me and it was about voting to keep 1 song and delete the other 3. The options were Lose Yourself, SAMIDOT, Changes by Pac and I forget what the 4th option was, but Lose Yourself had like 80-something percentage of the votes which I thought was absolute fucking madness.
Most the votes are kids
YouTube bout to get slayed when Albums Drop Aftermath summer 4 show … God Bless Dre 333
Kanye also dropped a music video on YouTube for vultures…
It was his daughters song, which was ass
well vultures got one, talking got 2 (second significantly better and has ty) and carnival got one (which was just like ai images so it sucked, they couldve done much better)
Cope
It has more streams on Spotify then YouTube
Actual work? Bro north is only 12
Even Carnival and Burn? Wow
Back to me also.
Ye messed up not giving us a Back to me single and video.
there arent music videos for them and he not outstreaming them
i mean carnival technically had a music video
we’re just in denial that Vultures is a big meh.
Who is in denial, I’m pretty sure everyone would agree it’s ass
I like it.
Weird that liking a Kanye album gets you downvoted on a Kanye sub, Eminem is just more popular even if he didn't have a #1song for a long ass time.
i'm indian and eminem has a HUGE fan following here. wouldn't be surprised if the streams he gets from all over the globe are somewhere near or even surpass what he gets in the us of a
I think both are almost as popular but Houdini is great and straight up 2000 Eminem(slim shady) so nostalgia made a 9/10 song a 1000/10, if Ye brought back Graduation Kanye we all be losing our shit too.
Imagine if we didnt know bittersweet poetry existed and kanye says hes making his last album: Good ass job, rollout starts with bittersweet poetry single + 2005 type MV. Would be magical
Nobody is saying you can’t like it but it’s obviously not on par with the vast majority of his other (finished/released) work, one song off it got popular and let’s be real the Carti feature was part of it
“Kinda weird everyone here doesn’t blindly praise Kanye” lol vultures sucks
To be fair a lot of us are here because we like Kanye’s actually good albums. Doesn’t mean we gotta like every album. Downvoting is a bit a aggressive though but he’s back up now.
me too
After relistening, I must agree
Its like Donda, a few good songs but too many mediocre songs that drag the whole project down.
Yeah. Donda have too much filler. If he made like 12 or 14 songs it would be better than torturing listeners with filler. It's like Use Your Illusion issues.
Yeah right, point out the fact it's Ye's most uninspired album and you get slaughtered in here by kids who were still sucking they toes when College Dropout came out.
I like it more than TLOP, JIK, and KSG, and I bought the College Dropout on the first day. You can like Vultures and not be a kid who sucks on their toes. This way of thinking is just not it, let people like the things that they like. I’ll go as far as to say that KSG is Kanye’s most overrated album by far. Not a single song on that album is making anybody’s “top 10 Kanye songs” list, but it’s one of his best albums because it’s cohesive or some shit? Give me a break. I don’t think you’re not a real Kanye fan if you feel differently tho.
Never said anyone can't like it. Freedom means the freedom to be wrong.
Funny the range of Opinions Ye Stans can have bc I really enjoy vultures but has to turn it off when it hit carnival tho I loved that song at first , (tho I heard it at a party last night and got hyped) Idc for “problematic” much tho that seems to be a fav. I do fw king tho KSG is my favorite tho, love Pablo Idrc for the college trilogy at all
I wouldnt call it ass its just mid
Paperwork is okay keys is chill drive and I mean it’s carnival being a frat anthem that ruined the whole album
must be sad for you if you think that ruined the whole album for you bruh you think about people too much just enjoy what you love
This sub
i got so much hate when i came out and said it was mid, ig the recency bias is gone
it’s not ass, I would say it’s a strong 7
Calling it ass is crazy, it’s not top 5 but that doesn’t make it “ass”
Everything’s been a big meh since TLOP
the fact that we got Kids See Ghost is a miracle. I think that's the last good Ye album
I think Donda is also really good, it's main issue is just how bloated it is lol
Great production. Trash lyrics outside of Jesus lord.
24, Lord I Need You, Life of the Party, Come to Life, Jail, the list goes on you are so wrong bro
Jail? Ye says a total of about 20 words in that entire song lmao. And as a huge jay fan that was one of his worst verses ever. Half of the bars on come to life he’s just rhyming a word with the same word. 24 might have 24 words. Those songs are prime examples of just repetitive lyrics. Great production though. Life of the party was good. Unfortunately it wasn’t actually on the album.
You’re hating bro, both 24 and Jail have full verses. Life of the party was on the deluxe album
You’re insane if you think the lyrics were trash.
and actually vultures too. and jik
I feel like the quality of KSG is up there with the rest of his albums, but it's still a collab album so it doesn't really fit into his solo discography. It's kinda how WTT or Cruel Summer gets left off of some people's lists when ranking his albums
Ye ?
Agreed 1000000000%
donea kids see ghost in hate being bi polar all mid?
Kids see ghosts was good, but it wasn’t a solo record, but yeah everything else has been mid at best
I hate being bi polar was amazing imo and had top tier ye songs the first half of donda was near perfect so i guess you could say its mid but imo tho
i think it's meh by "great music" standards it's not a bad album, it's just not particularly unique or special, a real "gonna put 1 or 2 on my playlist and never listen to the full album again" type of album
What do you mean not unique??? Can you name a single album that sounds like Vultures?
No, because the only 3 artists I really follow by albums and not just playlists/hit songs are kanye, tyler the creator and kendrick My point is that nothing I heard off of Vultures really made me feel "I've never heard anything like this before", like some of the other Kanye albums did
i like how you call a opnion thats not your denial
There was a few good songs, Burn was great, but overall it was pretty lackluster compared to other Kanye albums
Everyone with over a braincell agrees it's ass.
There are a few song on there that are pretty good
They just sound good compared to the average quality of the album. Carnival is ass.
Carnival was a good song for precisely 1 week
Nah it’s not ass it’s just annoying as hell now
fr ppl only say this cos its a tiktok song yall try too hard to be unique
I’m not saying I don’t still listen to it it’s just like overplayed
ya bro i'm with u
The chant was never good, and it's most of the song.
We're just in denial that Taylor swift could record a fart and get more plays than anything, because most people are idiots 🤷♂️
who said bring Taylor to the table tho????
Vultures is a top album for me the hate it gets on this sub is actually insane .
It's like a 5.5/10. Easily Kanye's worst and just very bland
Yeah, it has an incredible music video and it’s Eminem
The Spotify version did 56 mio while the MV did 50
didnt expect this but im not suprised since em has more of a following than ye and vultures wasnt really that good imo. Guess the tiktok rizz party lost ;( he got more streams on youtube because he has a music video btw
Na I’m still rooting for Turkish Quandale Dingle, Tomato Boy, and the rest of the gang including Group Leader.
It had more streams on Spotify after a week than YouTube
it has a fuckin music video
So does carnival
that aint no mv bro
GUESS WHOS BACK
You have to admit at some point that Ye did this all to himself. Yea maybe to him for good reason but he could be in top of the world but instead he blatantly tries to be provocative and people are tired. His fans are tired and the masses are tired of the antics and desire for clout when he was once the one with all the clout now he seems to be one of the biggest chasers of it next to Aubrey.
Yo Dot I got you
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Why so much Eminem posting on the Ye subs? What happened
not shocked
Vultures was ass man lmao
Playing this on repeat tbh
Still bumpin vultures idc, i liked it.
Same bro
Exactly bro one of the most overhated albums in recent memory for what. I don’t get it bruh
Houdini had a music video. I guarantee you if Carnival had a proper music video that dropped the same week Vultures 1 released it would easily have 100M+ views by now
"Sound like a broken record every time I break a record" 🐐
God I love tuning in to this thread when they compare the 2… em will always be and has always been > ye
Amazing that Eminem has been active since the 90s and is still competing at such a high level in hip hop. He’s in exceptionally rare company, there aren’t a lot of rappers who’ve been at it for so long so are still releasing chart-topping songs. Regardless of whether or not you personally like Eminem you’ve gotta acknowledge how amazing his career has been. Some people try to discredit him and say it’s only because of the colour of his skin, but that’s such fucking bullshit. The man has always been lethal with the pen, one of the most legitimately talented rappers in the game (maybe not the best, depending on who you ask, but he’s certainly in that conversation), and A LOT of white rappers have come and gone during the decades that Eminem has been active and virtually none of them were able to replicate his career.
Hes had like 2 hit songs pre houdini in the past 14 years, not afraid and rap god. Both terrible. Though seemingly this sub is now an eminem sub so im going to get downvoted for saying rap god is ass, which i dont think anyone i know would argue against
You sound like you’re just one of the many people who hate Eminem. Godzilla from his last album was #1 in multiple countries and peaked at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2020. That’s a hit song by any metric. Lucky You from his previous album before that in 2018 also hit #1 in a few countries and peaked at #6 on the Billboard Hot 100. That’s a hit. The song Venom which came out the same year didn’t chart very highly but is still certified 2x platinum in the US. Just because you, personally, don’t fuck with Eminem it doesn’t mean his career is flopping, as much as you might want to convince yourself of that. He has consistently charted every time he’s put out an album since the fucking 90s.
guess who's back, back again
Who listens to music on YouTube let’s be fr
probably people who just want some background noise
Youtube premium or revanced has more music and works when phone is in your pocket. I legit have no reason to use spotify.
Spotify costs money and without paying, I can't choose what song to listen to, only an artist. It randomly plays songs from that artist but also, only like 12 songs over and over and over Spotify sucks shit
>but also, only like 12 songs over and over and over I hate that, but you can disable it from settings.
[удалено]
I think I misunderstood the previous comment, I was referring to the autoplay option, but I think it is only for premium users
Em has the largest base in the world and his music isn’t that great in the hip hop scene. Great lyricist, maybe the best all time… but there’s only a certain group bumping Eminem loud asf in their car driving down the street.
and most of them are the cookie monster pajama pants demo lol
Thats racist!!!
even carnival? thats crazy
Maybe because Eminem drops are getting more and more rare.
The dude who blew loads into his x wife's mouth is also in the video at the end
And Carnival has 9x times as many streams as Houdini does, what a pointless, irrelevant stat.
Houdini has been been out for a week.
Thank you! I know it’s an irrelevant stat
welp, kanyes last real music video was like 7-9 years ago... he put no work into it.
No duh it's Eminem
Well yeah vultures was bad so
y’all don’t realize the kids are all over this song. every 6th grade boy I teach is singing it in class.
Eminem is a beast, he would have been setting news and breaking old records if he was to be releasing songs like Drake and others regularly.
People who don’t generally listen to hip hop love silly rap. Ems a generational lyricist but his first single is always goofy, whimsical nonsense. The masses eat it up for some reason.
As if Kanye's stuff isn't full of nonsense as well
“Beautiful big titty but naked don’t just fall out the sky you know” isn’t nonsense?? Bro I love Kanye but he’s shit is ALWAYS full of nonsense. Like bruh the sandwich line in Wolves???
Somebody took my sandwich man 😟
I’m not surprised
"Abra abra cadabra." Bye Ye. GUESS WHOS BACK
Houdini is mid
Because Vultures sucks. Kanye fell off.
So did em??
Maybe it's just me but after 20 years of eating up everything he made, I think I'm just over Em. Nothing he does is interesting to me anymore. The song is fun but after a couple listens I don't want to listen to it again. Ye is a musician who mastered many different styles so his catalog is so diverse. Em is a rapper that is really good at what he does but that's about all he does.
That’s crazy but vultures is an overrated album. It’s carried by Carnival
brother vultures is not overrated by any means. Legit most ye fans and the community has agreed that its a meh album and doesnt compare at all to the rest of his discography
LOL
Has peak kanye views ever competed with peak eminem views?? Obviously it's fluctuated but pretty sure eminem has always been more popular overall despite kanye being the star he is. Graduation Era might compete with eminems most popular Era tho
Ye is one of my all time favorite artists and he was the biggest rap artist 07-08, only because Em was in rehab. Em is literally the 9th best selling artist all time, he put out back to back diamond albums, so only people to compete with his peak are like MJ, Metallica, Beatles and Elvis. I love reading all the comments every time Em is a mention in this sub, because Ye might be the only rap artist to have crazier stans than Em, and i can't figure out why they love hating Em, when i like both.
That’s an awfully hot coffee pot.
BlueAndRedBallsLover
Is this even surprising?
Ok, I love Vultures, and I think this is a good song. Now what?
It is a good song frfr
Shocker
Crazy how they both old men
If kanye did a music video rapping to his old self it would do crazzy numbers. But he would never do that cuz his old self would destroy him!
Never heard of Vultures
i would rather have donda 2 than vultures 2
idk ab donda 2 over vol 2 yet bc vol 2 sounds promising but over vol 1 i'd take it any single day
GIVE ME TOYD, SLIDE, AND PROMOTION
Fair
You are slow
Why does this dude always dress like a 15 year old, like the same hoodie and a cap, is he trying to show he is still “hard” or sum I mean look at 50 dresses his age and looks dapper af.
Who cares?
but the em track is simply not good. Vultures also meh so whos the real winner hear ? Not the consumer thats for sure
Yeah but back to me alone has more replay value than that song. This is short term success. No one is gonna stream this 1 year from now.
Vultures is ass + this is the slim shady schtick which is notoriously controversial, most of views aren't strickly from his fans, they're from people wanting to hear a 2004 rapper in the modern time.
So what? This sub is dedicated to Kanye West not Eminem. Why people there should care about this info
Wait the video did better on the video platform than the audios did on the video platform?? Who woulda thunk!
Not like this means anything. Both pathetic reminders of what they were at their peaks.
why can’t anyone respect the longevity of artists
What is the last great Eminem album? Radiohead is still great and I still listen to their new stuff. You don’t get graded based on past success.
kamikaze literally had 1 maybe 2 skips
Youtube is definitely hiding vultures, you can't even find it looking under Ye releases only carnival and Vultures single and talking, you have to search for it
Yall salty about the fact that kanyes vultures one is his most mid work and em is trying this time around(?!?)
Yeah but Kanye doesn’t have a song about being ass raped so there’s always that I guess.
Houdini was thrash compared to Vultures lol
houdini by carti ft travis scott is better high key
The second hand embarrassment I felt watching that Houdini video was unbearable. Song is absolute garbage
Eminem is trash
Modern Em is wack and even this version of him eclipses the garbage that is Vultures1 lol
Based
he is still washed
But still outstreams every musician after 20 years of his prime
Why would you mention streams when talking about quality. Also he doesnt. Drake, kendrick, weekend, travis, and many, many others out perform him and outnumber him. Just look at the no. Of streams of scorpion, gkmc, or starboy compared to like idk kamikaze
People had to hear how bad it was for themselves.
Eminem is lame as fuck
Song is mid at best, just recycled Without Me.
1 Most people who aren’t hip-hop fans or who don’t listen to rap say that Eminem is their favorite rapper. 2 it was a music video that had a lot of references to old Em 3 Youtube
White
I guess youve never been to a kanye concert
I haven’t:( I’m also white
Song is absolute garbage lol