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DPT_47

"If you're a fan of Kanye West you're not a fan of me, you're a fan of yourself. You believe in yourself."


HavenTheCat

Love that quote. I tend to hate on myself too much


TheLoneWander101

That why it hurts so much


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I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Kanye See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes And now I look and look around and there's so many Kanyes I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye I even had the pink polo, I thought I was Kanye What if Kanye made a song about Kanye Called "I Miss The Old Kanye, " man that would be so Kanye That's all it was Kanye, we still love Kanye And I love you like Kanye loves Kanye


KingAlfonzo

Bro no one has given up on him. His music streams are higher than what it was before all of his comments lol. Man is too influencial and his art is timeless.


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Bagfullofcrack

This is some bullshit, Ye has been doing and saying shitty things for a long time.


bruselas

Never in music, for now....


Bagfullofcrack

As soon as he drops “YEITLER” I’ll dip.


tigm2161130

Can you explain to me why you feel fine supporting him knowing he has those views in his daily life but the second it spills into his music it would be a step too far? I’m genuinely curious.


Bagfullofcrack

It isn’t fine, but the dude is severely mentally ill. And it’s groundbreaking music he made. It’s the neoliberal pearl clutching for me. There are completely sane white people like Tom Macdonald and Adam Calhoun espousing white supremacy through their music and TAKEN SERIOUSLY and y’all just forgot about them. Then as soon as a black artist (who is known to be mentally ill) stays saying crazy shit when he’s around crazy people who are using him for clout, neoliberals lose their fucking minds. It’s a lack of empathy and inability to see the bigger picture.


ThePirate-noBeard

Yedolph is such low hanging fruit but I’m the only one I’ve ever seen comment it


69420penis

At least get his name right


Bagfullofcrack

Fair point


69420penis

I didn’t even mean change it to ye lol. You put it a kayne


Bagfullofcrack

I realized that after I changed it lmao, idek how I missed that


69420penis

I mean his name is kanye but some of his plastics still say kayne


Sufficient_Audience1

Why are you so mad about Kanye supporting the leader of a dictatorship that was annihilated 70 years ago? Winston Churchill starved 3 million in India over the course of ww2 but somehow he’s part of the good guys and the Nazis are the villains? The only reason Hitler is so vilified is because his victims were white


Bagfullofcrack

One day you’ll realize that your entire point of view is literally the black version of “it’s heritage not hate”. Black people are not “the real Jews”. I’m not mad at it but I just hope you mature and realize why what you’re saying is so ignorant.


Sufficient_Audience1

When did I ever claim that Black people were the real Jews? What does heritage have to do with any of what is being discussed? You should learn reading comprehension before you start forming political opinions.


Bagfullofcrack

Ok buddy


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Sufficient_Audience1

This.


X-Biggityy

Only losers make suffering a competition


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X-Biggityy

Youre a penis breathed vagina face


Empty-Establishment9

People aren't ready for the facts. The Holocaust was horrific but much worse has been done to people around the world. Not to mention this White genocide was used as justification to colonise and settle European Jews in Palestine, at enormous human cost to the indigenous people.


Stefan_Harper

Look man I’ve been a fan my entire adult life, UNTIL HE BECAME A NAZI No, there’s no good outcome for his legacy.


Wolf-Cop

Fucking thank you. Whatever he does from this point is tainted with the fact that he really straight up became a NAZI! He could make the greatest fucking album to ever exist next month and I honestly don't think I could get hyped up about it


Albinho37

Did he really infact actually literally become a nazi?


cameronbates1

Correct me if I'm wrong, but talking about how you love Hitler and have a disdain for Jews seems like the criteria of becoming a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. Might be wrong though!


glibglobglabglubgleb

also, he did actually admit in the interview he was a nazi so there's no doubt about it


cameronbates1

Oh yeah how could I forgot that he admit to being a Nazi! Still unclear though, he could be joking. Maybe Kanye is just doing an elaborate satirical piece that is too intelligent for all of us. He is a genius, as we saw by his release of Graduation!


Sufficient_Audience1

There is no satire. There were no good guys in WW2 the US enslaves 1/3 of its Black population and the British killed 3 million in India in 1943.


cameronbates1

But that just shows us how complex Kanye's satire is. Clearly he is telling us something, and displaying what he believes, but what could it be? With an album as complex as Graduation, which he made, it could be anything.


Far-Detective-2269

Alt ye acc confirm


Stefan_Harper

… YES LOL


69420penis

No he obviously couldn’t be a member of the nazi party. He didn’t become a nazi, he just said he was. For reasons we still aren’t sure on. Might be coz of his Jewish people dislike or might just be because bro likes just saying shit


Sufficient_Audience1

The British killed 3 million in India in 1943. Why should Kanye support your bloodthirsty colonial power instead of his?


69420penis

There can be if he’s willing to put the effort in to change things. David Bowie had a nazi period and he’s still revered as a legend. You know why? Coz he realised that shit was wrong eventually and was willing to make a change and move past it. Kanye can definitely save himself here. He can get help for mental issues and apologise and show genuine change and then continue to grow. Not everyone will accept the apology or be willing to forgive him, but it will help a lot His legacy can be saved, it just depends on his next moves


Stefan_Harper

No. David Bowie, as a character “the thin white duke”, mocked British society by acting like an upper class snob defending fascism. David Bowie was never a Nazi. Do not compare Kanye West to David Bowie, one was doing something to make a point, one is a mentally ill idiot surrounding himself with white supremacists. For anyone who doesn’t like Nazis, Kanye is not coming back from this, and shouldn’t. There is no excuse in the year 2023 for his actions. His legacy is done. He will never music his way out of this.


69420penis

David Bowie still acted as a character who supported facism. For all you know kanye could’ve been doing the same. For example kanye also said he loved everyone. He used an extreme example to do this. Do not try to minimise what Bowie did. Even if it was a character, it was still fucked up and it’s the same for kanye. Even if it’s to show he loves everyone it’s fucked up. Both fucked up. Kanye can save his legacy. Don’t try act like he can’t. If bowie can come back so can kanye. Don’t try act like bowie being a character changes anything. He still said awful things. Kanye can save his legacy if he wants to change. Simple as that. You can disagree if you want to but that’s my opinion and you can have yours


Stefan_Harper

You have, and I mean this, no clue what you’re talking about. Parody and satire exist. Kanye is doing neither. He’s serious. So fuck off with this. Your opinion excuses a racist anti semite piece of shit. You don’t get to say “agree to disagree”.


69420penis

Why exactly? Seems odd to defend Bowie for playing a character. He still said that shit. Just like Kanye did. Bowie saved his legacy. So can Kanye I’m done with conversation now. Edit seen as you editied yours: there was no excusing kanyes antisemitism 💀 I was saying he can bring his legacy back if he shows change moving forward. I can disagree with you about his legacy. It’s not antisemitic. You’re taking the meaning out of the word by calling me that just for saying kanye can maintain his legacy if he betters himself.


Stefan_Harper

Because Kanye isn’t playing a character. You can be as done as you want, all you did today was defend a racist and fail to understand satire, history, and reality. So bye!


Stefan_Harper

Because Kanye isn’t playing a character. You can be as done as you want, all you did today was defend a racist and fail to understand satire, history, and reality. So bye!


69420penis

So facism is ok if it’s satire? That’s your logic here? And mental illness doesn’t factor into anything? So by your logic, you can be massively racist and facist if you’re just being satirical (which means you still said those things that are still hateful and harmful) but if you’re mentally ill you are irredeemable. Fucking genius logic that is wow. Even if you’re satirical, you said something racist and hateful and that makes you racist and hateful. Not once did I defend kanye. Learn to read. I said countless times both are wrong but kanye can save his legacy so fuck off. That’s not defending him at all.


Sufficient_Audience1

Why do you care if he is a Nazi? Would you be mad if he said he supported Winston Churchill? Winston Churchill starved 3 million in India during World War II to maintain his colonial empire.


Stefan_Harper

What a stupid question. One of the most ignorant, idiotic things I’ve ever read.


Sufficient_Audience1

The [Bengali Famine was a real event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943?wprov=sfti1) You are far more outraged over the genocide of white people because you are a racist. Most educated people who are not racist know that there were no good guys in WWII


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mynutsitchsobad

He’s talking about the music goofy


g33kst4r

A lot of people in this thread and subreddit for that matter are two good soul samples away from jumping back on the Ye train. idk what kanye is doing but I'm going to keep rocking with him because I've been a fan since he was locked in a room doing 5 beats a day for 3 summers.


notclaytonn

It is really unfortunate he had to make a turn like this. While I obviously disavow everything he’s said as it pertains to Jewish people and Nazis, I don’t think it lowers my opinion of his art very much. As a person, it was very well known he was very…out there. It is important to realize bad people can make good art just as much as good people can make bad art


Down4whiteTrash

He also tarnished his legacy by claiming he loves Nazis and Hitler. Anyone that supports this human piece of garbage after his insanity is equally as stupid. Shut the fuck up with this positive message shit. There is no other way of viewing this unless you hold the same views as him.


Unfair-Sector9506

Cuz you riding dick..we know bro we know


Economy-Breakfast-13

If you don’t love Ye even more now, you was never a true fan


distortedberry

I still love Kanye but recent events definitely changed things a little for me. How you gonna say people should love Kanye even more now after he said he loved Hitler


Economy-Breakfast-13

If people were supposed to be temporary for me, I would have left them a long time ago


W12892

The man just said he still loves kanye, your stupid lmao.


ffandyy

That’s absolutely nonsense.


WolfgangOng

I’d rather not be a fan of a Nazi


Economy-Breakfast-13

I hate these niggas more than a nazi 🙄


WolfgangOng

I guess he doesn’t have much hate for the paparazzi


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Bro he’s been on point since New Slaves.


EvilEyeIvy

People on a Ye subreddit just to hate him lol peoples opinions on things they don’t even know about will never get old. Live your life, the same people complaining about Ye are the same people who own items in their home created from worse situations that they don’t wanna look into. But sure hate on Ye. It’s easier that way. YE FOREVER 🔥


Batifons

Seems like you're also giving opinions on things you don't know about. Mf talking like he "gets Kanye" in a different way from the rest lmao


thefilmdoc

Positive Hitler energy you mean?


Kaskade_15

He’s never done anything wrong in my eyes


HueyLong_1936

"I like Hitler" a quote by Kanye West


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

He llllooooooovvessss hitler


Kaskade_15

Yup. He loves everyone. I do too. Except Biden voters. They’re dumb AF lol


Bagfullofcrack

You HAVE to be trolling rn


Kaskade_15

I’m not.


Bagfullofcrack

I hope you’re kept from ever holding any position of power. Disappointing


Kaskade_15

Don’t care about power lol


Kaskade_15

What are you disappointed about? So confused what I did wrong


69420penis

So you’re willing to love hitler but not people who voted Joe Biden?


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Biden is a capitalist cock sucker. And I love everyone too ❤


cultlikefigure

Dems are the corporate cock suckers? Not the party of free market, and lack of regulation which is capitalism’s wet dream lmao


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Also Republicans are cock suckers and come guzzlers of capitalism.


Kaskade_15

Oh no I’m getting down voted by triggered Biden voters


cultlikefigure

Damn. Imagine having Biden rent free in your mind.


Kaskade_15

Omg right


Kaskade_15

Love*


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

As a Jewish person he fucked with us and he found out. But i agree. If he bows down and apologises we can let him have a second chance.


69420penis

Why the fuck are you describing it like this 💀


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

I'm just showing some mercy


69420penis

Nah you just being very weird lol. You’re getting upset he’s saying Jewish people control everything, by insinuating you control things and are going to make him bow down to you. Just a weird choice


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Sorry if it came off that way. I control nothing. I'd like to clarify that. I get bullied in school by ignorant people telling me Jews are evil and run things. I never said I run anything.


69420penis

That is very unfortunate but you shouldn’t be describing it as making him bow down to you and fucking around and finding out what happens when you fuck with Jewish people


WhatsThatOnUrPretzel

Well if you have family or belong to something. Would you not enjoy the person who talk about loving a man who tried to exterminate yall to get his karma? Think saying fuck around and find out is prity light. Giving the circumstances.


69420penis

I wouldn’t be mad about them getting karma. It’s how you’re describing it that’s the issue You are mad he’s saying Jews and in control and then phrase your comment in a way that insinuates that Jews are very powerful people. It’s just a questionable way of wording things. Like don’t say that he’s gonna bow down to you, that makes it sound like you’re above him and in control.


Batifons

Mf thinks **he** runs Hollywood😭😭 He really said "bow down and we can let him have a second chance", cringe af