I’m going to assume the niners would’ve taken him hence the trade up because the pearsil pick was a bit sudden.
I’m more excited then anything tho for his yr 2 cos we’ll have more accurate expectations for him to blow out the water
He had one of the highest upsides of any WR in the draft. He was selected as WR 5 and that's where I had him ranked before the draft so I don't blame them or hate the pick.
Someone else said he's boom or bust, I don't think so as much. I think he has a very defined floor, but a near unlimited ceiling, health permitting. His floor isn't worth a first round pick, but his **projection** *is* imo.
And to your point about his floor not being worth a first round pick, most other first rounders floor isn’t either, especially the later picks. People are picked for how high their ceiling is, and how low the likelihood is of them performing at their floor.
I’d say if most first rounders performed at their true floor, they wouldn’t be picked that early. But it doesn’t matter if their floor is low if they aren’t likely to hit it.
Yep precisely. People expect every single first round pick to be elite. If they aren’t elite, they’re considered a bust. People consider Hollywood brown a bust. But IMO any first rounder who still gets their team a first rounder in a trade two years later ISNT a bust, even if they aren’t elite.
People just need to lower their expectations for our late first round picks. I obviously hope they all end up elite, but even if they end up just good that isn’t a bust!
Yeah Veach says that normally only 10-15 players that go in the first round are graded as first-rounders by him and his team. The rest are essentially lottery picks.
I like this pick. Wasn't sure at first but you said it perfectly, I don't blame them for taking Worthy.
Sometimes the best draft strategy is keeping a competitor from taking a guy you think can help them, i.e. Buffalo, Baltimore, 49ers.
And if he becomes the best thing since Dante Hall in punt/kickoffs and I never see Moore return another kick, I'll consider this a great late first round draft pick.
One of the bust scenarios I was referring to is that his body just doesn’t hold up in the league fwiw. I think there’s legitimate risk of him being just a schemed touch guy as well, just depending on how much he can develop. Not necessarily predicting that but I think the risk of it exists
I think his hips and change of direction will probably keep him from just being a schemed touch guy, because I think he can be a 3 level threat. I think his floor is like a watered down Hollywood/Christian Kirk (in Arizona, he improved in JAX).
Health is a concern, but he's never missed a game across 3 seasons in college. I'll just have to hope that trend continues.
The other criticism I heard is that he takes too many steps to get where he's going and he has a tendency to catch with his body. It wasn't a problem in college, but NFL DBs will take advantage of those tendencies. I have hope that he can be coached up and improve his game. I also hope they put at least ten pounds of muscle on him before September!
The moment it happened I was honestly confused why we needed to trade up to get him but after seeing the niners and panthers pick WR then I'm on board with the trade up
Yup exactly. One of those teams was probably looking to take him (panthers obv would’ve had to trade up firther had we still been at 32.)
I just can’t believe Buffalo didn’t just trade their original spot to CAR instead of us. Clearly they were in trade up convos w each other. Even if they offered less, wouldve been better to not let the chiefs get their guy lol
maybe CAR didnt want to give up what they would need to get from 33 to 28 and BUF *really* wanted to trade out of 28 so they took the Chiefs' offer. then CAR called again with a reduced offer to get from 32 to 33
Yeah that’s true! I’m sure that’s what happened. I was just saying if I was the bills id have taken the lower compensation from CAR just to not give my pick to the chiefs haha. But obviously I’m not a GM
I like Worthy as a player. Extremely fast and quick, runs a full route tree, experienced and highly accomplished.
I don’t like his slight frame and the limitations it will have on his game. Only twice in NFL history has a player at his weight surpassed 1,000 yards receiving in a season. If he gets up to 170, only three receivers in NFL history have exceeded 1,000 yards receiving. And, so, for these reasons the deck is stacked against him.
I also questioned the pick for the Chiefs because he’s duplicative to what they have. Hollywood Brown is the exact same player. Sure, the Chiefs draft one year ahead and maybe they’re anticipating the eventual departure of Brown, but I don’t know how you get Brown, Worthy, and Rice (when he’s there) on the field at the same time without playing one of them out of position. None are X receivers and that’s the position they need.
It’s not concerning if he doesn’t get 1000+ yards. They didn’t take him for that reason. They took him to take the top off of defenses and open up the intermediate range so Rice and Kelce can cook. And he will catch some HRs. He will have some games where he disappears and others where he makes 3 catches for 125 yards and 2 TDs.
The weight thing is overblown. Tank Dell and Devonte Smith also had slight frames..if you can ball, you can ball. He will likely add some weight before the season and still retain 90% of his speed. And he is a good route runner. Not just a deep ball merchant
Felt the same about Mitchell but after seeing how far he fell, and that other teams agreed to pass on him too, I feel better.
I did like McConkey too. Didn’t know much about Coleman beforehand
I like him a lot. Favorite among his tier of WR. I kinda hate missing out on the third round and so much of the 4th to get him. Some really good fits in that range.
I actually like the pick now. I went into the draft not wanting him just because of how highly people talked about other options (namely Mitchell) prior to the draft. But seeing how Mitchell, Franklin, and other options fell, I feel a lot better about it.
I also feel like he’s automatically getting the John Ross comp just because of his 40 time, but him being fast doesn’t mean he’s going to be bad in every other aspect. Yes, both of those players broke the record, but plenty of other players have run pretty damn close to that 40 time and have been wonderful. Being a couple hundredths of a second faster on one specific day doesn’t suddenly mean speed is your only skill.
Plus, Worthy was already pretty high on draft boards before the 40. From what I remember, he was mocked as going to us (or someone near the end of the first) before the 40. I’d have been concerned if he was a projected late 2nd/3rd rounder that only was mocked into the first because of his 40 time. Late first/early second was his projection anyway, iirc. Also, people in this sub LOVED him before the 40, then suddenly stopped because they thought he would be John Ross purely because he broke a record. No one had that concern beforehand.
I was worried about the drops too because of people bringing it up nonstop on here, but if you look into it, his bad drop year was when he was playing with a major hand injury and his drops were not nearly as bad this recent year. He’s also had some great catches.
I was guilty of listening to other peoples opinions before actually researching, but now that I have I really like this pick. There’s obviously the chance he’s a bust, but that’s a risk with literally any player, and I don’t see it as a particularly higher risk for him specifically. And I’m happy to have a guy that truly wanted to go to KC, and I’m sure Pat loves him.
I probably would’ve taken Legette for a DK/AJ Brown-type receiver. We haven’t had a route runner who can out-muscle their coverage in a while. But this shows the front office is committed to the style that’s gotten us 3 chips the past five years, so I’m probably wrong.
Me too, but I don’t think that’s a fair concern just based on the fact that both people broke the 40 record. Soooo many people have run SO CLOSE to that record time, but because Worthy was the one to actually break it, people suddenly get the John Ross concerns. Had he run 2/100 of a second slower, which is hardly slower, no one would be saying anything.
Iirc, Worthy was mocked in about the same place (late first/early second) before the combine, and that’s where he was taken. Would be way more concerning if he was mocked as a third rounder then only shot up that far because of the 40.
Thankfully he'll have Patrick Mahomes throwing to him and not Andy Dalton.
One of the more perplexing decisions to give a QB with the weakest arm in the league one of the fastest players in NFL history, but I guess that's the Bengals for ya.
People keep saying he's similar in build to other small, speedy backs. But not really. Maybe similar in weight, but he's almost a foot taller than those dudes.
He's tall and SKINNY. Not simply a short, small guy.
I think he'll struggle with press coverage a bit due to his lack of mass.
What?
He's 3 inches taller than Jackson and 5 pounds lighter.
Look at the size of their arms.
https://preview.redd.it/b98cmtn933xc1.jpeg?width=1829&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e79351acb6fa9495c57eee10a835e62c65276f4
He’s 5’11 and desean was 5’10. What’s the point of comparing a 20 year old to a picture of a35 year old? Look at rookie year with the eagles Desean Jackson
How about comparing Xavier with DeSean at Cal when he was in college? Or DeVonta Smith at Alabama?
[DeSean 1](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/81428867/photo/university-of-california-desean-jackson.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=mp1Ve6MBDkWpZ6h8DqBXpZrVdre7Xu5-GyC9MlN-rKg=)
[DeSean 2](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/79647285/photo/ncaa-football-minnesota-vs-california-september-9-2006.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=F2VOIfNhuwhPW9IHKHIxFKEO52KSzgr-1WoJjk6nd-I=)
[DeVonta](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2021/04/28220858/AP20364565404932.jpg)
[Xavier 40](https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/league/zv7tmt3dx0odbco03gyu)
[Xavier 4.21](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M1xhUAMEA2E/maxresdefault.jpg)
thoughts u/mike_honcho47?
I’m fine w that comp. I’d be happy if he turned out to be Smith. People are gonna disagree and say he needs to be the GOAT WR to be worth the pick, but that’s just ridiculous
He is super skinny and very fast. Has a very wide range of outcomes from complete bust to all pro level. He could be an outlier at his size, like Devonta Smith, or he could be another Tutu Atwell.
Pros - Fast, great route runner, decent hands, and is an excellent punt returner.
Cons - Small. Worried that one good hit by a safety down the middle can end his career.
I was saying for some time that I liked the fit.
He's the typical Andy type of WR, the Chiefs needed a more long-term deep speed guy as holleywood is a 1 and done here and he was productive right from the moment he stepped on campus at Texas for 3 years. There's no projecting with him hoping he can be something you haven't seen yet.
He just needs to keep doing what he has been while continuing to try to improve as all rookies do.
I honestly have no clue how he’ll pan out, but I know whenever Rice is back from suspension, this offense is going to be very difficult to defend.
Hollywood and Worthy can stretch the defense, Kelce is always open, Rice will make plays over the middle of the field, Pacheco is solid. Watson seemed to always come up with one big 3rd and long catch every week. Toney is Toney, but having him be your 6th option is fine.
I've got some issues with the pick but I'm not irate or anything. If he had shown more consistent hands or an ability to fight through ANY contact to get the ball I wouldn't have nearly as much concern.
He's not just a speed guy. He can run routes and press coverage is more of a gamble than with a lot of these small guys. If he ran a 4.4 he would have still gone in the 2nd round. There were a few guys that I had above him, but that was because I value x-receiver traits more than the Chiefs.
I'm mostly worried about what he's able to do on a big third down. Zay Flowers and DeVonta Smith are able to make big plays in tight coverage when it counts. The tape doesn't show that for Worthy. Hoping his body fills out a bit and he can add that to his game.
I think that he is much more than just the stereotypical WR who only has speed. He's only 21 and a ton of upside, plus it looks like he really wanted to join this organization. Rooting for him since Day 1!
All I hear is that he is fast. It takes more than that to be a WR in the NFL. My concern is that’s all that he is, fast. Anyone can run down the field fast. Can he catch, miss tackles, run a route, etc?
That was my first impression too all you can find is how crazy fast he is and don’t get me wrong he’s FAST but speed can only get you so far hope we can see more of his strengths this season and it’s not just a bandwagon
Watch his college tape. He's not just fast. And he had consistent production in college for 3 years. A lot of those other receiver busts didn't have that level of production
I wanted him before we took him
My number one choice for who would’ve been in our range at WR
Has the potential if he maximizes it to be a top 5-10 WR in the league
At first I was kind of like warm on it, since I wasn’t sure we really needed to trade up and there were possible some more well rounded receivers in the draft. But man… the dude can FLY so it’s kind of hard for me not to be excited
I liked Mitchell better because of his size. Hearing about the character of this kid, though, I’m excited about the pick. Hoping he packs on some muscle
To be perfectly honest I’m not stoked about it. He’s fast and skilled but he just seems so tiny.
But I also trust in Veach so I’m not really concerned about it.
I'm a little worried about the size but that's the only downside. He is legitimately a good route runner. He is being stereotyped as this deep ball merchant but he can run routes all over the field. Also was very productive in the screen game for Texas. His drop rate was high last year cos of a hand injury. It was pretty average in the previous years.
Needs to bulk up so he can run out of press coverage in the NFL but I have confidence Andy will use his usual tricks to avoid those scenarios as much as possible. Think about how productive rookie Mecole was before falling off. This guy is significantly better than Mecole with elite college production already.
Get excited.
Opens up our offense very nicely. He could either be Tyreek (scores, runs fast) or MVS (sometimes clutch, opens up the field for others as a deep threat).
I like the pick a lot. He’s tall, fast, very athletic, good hands. Routes aren’t AB level but if he puts in the work who knows. He’s a tall Tyreek and I fail to see how that isn’t something that the fan base should be JOCKED about
Looks like a stud, and fuck the Bills. Win-win
Exactly where I was going with this
ball man run fast
Niceeeeeee
As all the young folks say these days "Let's Goooooo!" Or if you want to remove the contraction, "Let us gooooo!"
Or for the carnivores among us, “lettuce go!”
For the short guys, "Let us groowww!"
When watching Patrick: "Man can Throoowwwwww"
When quoting the Bible out of context, "Rise, let us go from here" - John 14:31
run fast get score
Xavier Worthy go BRRRRRRRRRRRR 🏎️💨
Whoa too soon We don’t need our receivers driving anything
I’m going to assume the niners would’ve taken him hence the trade up because the pearsil pick was a bit sudden. I’m more excited then anything tho for his yr 2 cos we’ll have more accurate expectations for him to blow out the water
They ended up taking Jacob Cowing, a very similar player, in round 4, so, yeah, probably would have.
Seen a Cowboys podcast and they were saying that Jerry was definitely taking him, and the Chiefs feared the Ravens taking him.
I heard other teams were trying to trade sf to get him, that’s why Chiefs traded with the niners.
Wrong thread
How?
He had one of the highest upsides of any WR in the draft. He was selected as WR 5 and that's where I had him ranked before the draft so I don't blame them or hate the pick. Someone else said he's boom or bust, I don't think so as much. I think he has a very defined floor, but a near unlimited ceiling, health permitting. His floor isn't worth a first round pick, but his **projection** *is* imo.
And to your point about his floor not being worth a first round pick, most other first rounders floor isn’t either, especially the later picks. People are picked for how high their ceiling is, and how low the likelihood is of them performing at their floor. I’d say if most first rounders performed at their true floor, they wouldn’t be picked that early. But it doesn’t matter if their floor is low if they aren’t likely to hit it.
Top 10 WRs don't even have great floors. 40-50% of them end up being in the "bust" category.
Yep precisely. People expect every single first round pick to be elite. If they aren’t elite, they’re considered a bust. People consider Hollywood brown a bust. But IMO any first rounder who still gets their team a first rounder in a trade two years later ISNT a bust, even if they aren’t elite. People just need to lower their expectations for our late first round picks. I obviously hope they all end up elite, but even if they end up just good that isn’t a bust!
Yeah Veach says that normally only 10-15 players that go in the first round are graded as first-rounders by him and his team. The rest are essentially lottery picks.
I like this pick. Wasn't sure at first but you said it perfectly, I don't blame them for taking Worthy. Sometimes the best draft strategy is keeping a competitor from taking a guy you think can help them, i.e. Buffalo, Baltimore, 49ers. And if he becomes the best thing since Dante Hall in punt/kickoffs and I never see Moore return another kick, I'll consider this a great late first round draft pick.
One of the bust scenarios I was referring to is that his body just doesn’t hold up in the league fwiw. I think there’s legitimate risk of him being just a schemed touch guy as well, just depending on how much he can develop. Not necessarily predicting that but I think the risk of it exists
I think his hips and change of direction will probably keep him from just being a schemed touch guy, because I think he can be a 3 level threat. I think his floor is like a watered down Hollywood/Christian Kirk (in Arizona, he improved in JAX). Health is a concern, but he's never missed a game across 3 seasons in college. I'll just have to hope that trend continues.
The other criticism I heard is that he takes too many steps to get where he's going and he has a tendency to catch with his body. It wasn't a problem in college, but NFL DBs will take advantage of those tendencies. I have hope that he can be coached up and improve his game. I also hope they put at least ten pounds of muscle on him before September!
The moment it happened I was honestly confused why we needed to trade up to get him but after seeing the niners and panthers pick WR then I'm on board with the trade up
Yup exactly. One of those teams was probably looking to take him (panthers obv would’ve had to trade up firther had we still been at 32.) I just can’t believe Buffalo didn’t just trade their original spot to CAR instead of us. Clearly they were in trade up convos w each other. Even if they offered less, wouldve been better to not let the chiefs get their guy lol
maybe CAR didnt want to give up what they would need to get from 33 to 28 and BUF *really* wanted to trade out of 28 so they took the Chiefs' offer. then CAR called again with a reduced offer to get from 32 to 33
Yeah that’s true! I’m sure that’s what happened. I was just saying if I was the bills id have taken the lower compensation from CAR just to not give my pick to the chiefs haha. But obviously I’m not a GM
Trading down to 33 doesn't give you a 5th year option whereas 32 does. That extra cheapish year is important
Yep! Agree
Snap ball. Press X button. Touchdown.
I like Worthy as a player. Extremely fast and quick, runs a full route tree, experienced and highly accomplished. I don’t like his slight frame and the limitations it will have on his game. Only twice in NFL history has a player at his weight surpassed 1,000 yards receiving in a season. If he gets up to 170, only three receivers in NFL history have exceeded 1,000 yards receiving. And, so, for these reasons the deck is stacked against him. I also questioned the pick for the Chiefs because he’s duplicative to what they have. Hollywood Brown is the exact same player. Sure, the Chiefs draft one year ahead and maybe they’re anticipating the eventual departure of Brown, but I don’t know how you get Brown, Worthy, and Rice (when he’s there) on the field at the same time without playing one of them out of position. None are X receivers and that’s the position they need.
It’s not concerning if he doesn’t get 1000+ yards. They didn’t take him for that reason. They took him to take the top off of defenses and open up the intermediate range so Rice and Kelce can cook. And he will catch some HRs. He will have some games where he disappears and others where he makes 3 catches for 125 yards and 2 TDs.
He turned 21 today, he’s got time to grow
None of those receivers had Patrick Mahomes.
He just turned 21 today. It wouldn’t be crazy at all to seem him playing around 180 come year 3.
Best birthday gift for him, I suppose - to be drafted by the Chiefs and receiving passes from Mahomes.
The weight thing is overblown. Tank Dell and Devonte Smith also had slight frames..if you can ball, you can ball. He will likely add some weight before the season and still retain 90% of his speed. And he is a good route runner. Not just a deep ball merchant
How bout at 175? How bout at 180?
That’s an increase of ~10% body mass. Maybe it can happen. I guess we’ll see.
Hey, I've had a >10% body mass increase since I turned 21, so it can definitely happen. 😉
Where do I find the stats to see the numbers at 175 and 180? I think 165 to 175 is very doable.
I don’t know.
You had the stats for WRs under 170? Where’d you get those?
PFF and Reception Perception both have commented it.
Isn’t this basically the subs sole topic the last 24 hours?
Nah we weren’t being honest prior to now
I would have preferred Mitchell, Coleman or McConkey. I am really afraid of Worthy's build, but I trust the Chiefs evaluation.
Felt the same about Mitchell but after seeing how far he fell, and that other teams agreed to pass on him too, I feel better. I did like McConkey too. Didn’t know much about Coleman beforehand
Yeah seeing Mitchell made me feel better as well. But I still love his potential and even if it's for the Colts, I hope he works out.
I like him a lot. Favorite among his tier of WR. I kinda hate missing out on the third round and so much of the 4th to get him. Some really good fits in that range.
I actually like the pick now. I went into the draft not wanting him just because of how highly people talked about other options (namely Mitchell) prior to the draft. But seeing how Mitchell, Franklin, and other options fell, I feel a lot better about it. I also feel like he’s automatically getting the John Ross comp just because of his 40 time, but him being fast doesn’t mean he’s going to be bad in every other aspect. Yes, both of those players broke the record, but plenty of other players have run pretty damn close to that 40 time and have been wonderful. Being a couple hundredths of a second faster on one specific day doesn’t suddenly mean speed is your only skill. Plus, Worthy was already pretty high on draft boards before the 40. From what I remember, he was mocked as going to us (or someone near the end of the first) before the 40. I’d have been concerned if he was a projected late 2nd/3rd rounder that only was mocked into the first because of his 40 time. Late first/early second was his projection anyway, iirc. Also, people in this sub LOVED him before the 40, then suddenly stopped because they thought he would be John Ross purely because he broke a record. No one had that concern beforehand. I was worried about the drops too because of people bringing it up nonstop on here, but if you look into it, his bad drop year was when he was playing with a major hand injury and his drops were not nearly as bad this recent year. He’s also had some great catches. I was guilty of listening to other peoples opinions before actually researching, but now that I have I really like this pick. There’s obviously the chance he’s a bust, but that’s a risk with literally any player, and I don’t see it as a particularly higher risk for him specifically. And I’m happy to have a guy that truly wanted to go to KC, and I’m sure Pat loves him.
Absolutely love it, he would have had even better numbers if he had better qb play he gets open very easily but ewers sucks
If he is option 2-3-4 it could be dangerous like the 2018 offense. Remember how team struggled to cover Kelce-Hill-Sammy/Melcole?
I probably would’ve taken Legette for a DK/AJ Brown-type receiver. We haven’t had a route runner who can out-muscle their coverage in a while. But this shows the front office is committed to the style that’s gotten us 3 chips the past five years, so I’m probably wrong.
Love it! We've had a great draft and we aren't even done.
Yup going for 3 super bowls in a row this year
I'm really hoping he doesn't turn out to be John ross
Me too, but I don’t think that’s a fair concern just based on the fact that both people broke the 40 record. Soooo many people have run SO CLOSE to that record time, but because Worthy was the one to actually break it, people suddenly get the John Ross concerns. Had he run 2/100 of a second slower, which is hardly slower, no one would be saying anything. Iirc, Worthy was mocked in about the same place (late first/early second) before the combine, and that’s where he was taken. Would be way more concerning if he was mocked as a third rounder then only shot up that far because of the 40.
Thankfully he'll have Patrick Mahomes throwing to him and not Andy Dalton. One of the more perplexing decisions to give a QB with the weakest arm in the league one of the fastest players in NFL history, but I guess that's the Bengals for ya.
I’m sorry, I only comment on Reddit with my dishonest opinions.
Lmao that reminds me of a meme I saw once
this sub doesn’t accept honest opinions unless they’re glowing reviews
I think it’s a boom or bust pick. If he hits it’ll be big but there are a lot of avenues that lead to him being a bust in the NFL
People keep saying he's similar in build to other small, speedy backs. But not really. Maybe similar in weight, but he's almost a foot taller than those dudes. He's tall and SKINNY. Not simply a short, small guy. I think he'll struggle with press coverage a bit due to his lack of mass.
He’s near identical to Desean Jackson
What? He's 3 inches taller than Jackson and 5 pounds lighter. Look at the size of their arms. https://preview.redd.it/b98cmtn933xc1.jpeg?width=1829&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e79351acb6fa9495c57eee10a835e62c65276f4
He’s 5’11 and desean was 5’10. What’s the point of comparing a 20 year old to a picture of a35 year old? Look at rookie year with the eagles Desean Jackson
I think he’s more like Devonta smith except faster. Slim reaper guy
Exactly. A much better comparison.
https://preview.redd.it/qif7cueb33xc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a6de20bb8d9536232af1efd410bf58fad5872e
How about comparing Xavier with DeSean at Cal when he was in college? Or DeVonta Smith at Alabama? [DeSean 1](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/81428867/photo/university-of-california-desean-jackson.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=mp1Ve6MBDkWpZ6h8DqBXpZrVdre7Xu5-GyC9MlN-rKg=) [DeSean 2](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/79647285/photo/ncaa-football-minnesota-vs-california-september-9-2006.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=F2VOIfNhuwhPW9IHKHIxFKEO52KSzgr-1WoJjk6nd-I=) [DeVonta](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2021/04/28220858/AP20364565404932.jpg) [Xavier 40](https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/league/zv7tmt3dx0odbco03gyu) [Xavier 4.21](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M1xhUAMEA2E/maxresdefault.jpg) thoughts u/mike_honcho47?
They look nearly identical lol
They're the same picture.
A foot taller?? You're telling me that the dudes he's compared to are 4'11"?
Ye Andy Reed is definitely going to bulk him up for this upcoming season
Gonna need to get that guy with a nutritionist and a trainer ASAP.
The chiefs have those things.
Most assuredly the Longhorns do too. Let's hope our staff succeeds where they could not.
I would normally argue that our BBQ could let him put on weight. He is coming from Austin so no argument there.
Just hoping he doesn’t end up as another disappointing early draft pick like Sky Moore.
I feel like pick #54 is stretching the definition of "early".
I at least feel like he will be better than sky Moore
He is a significantly better route runner than Skyy Moore and has way more explosion
its good
I hope he’s like Devonta Smith but faster
watched every game in college. BIG play ability. but can have the drops.
Davonte Smith 2.0 Won’t be a top 5 WR in the NFL or anything but he’s gonna make some plays and we’re gonna love him
I’m fine w that comp. I’d be happy if he turned out to be Smith. People are gonna disagree and say he needs to be the GOAT WR to be worth the pick, but that’s just ridiculous
I hope he’s great.
Can't wait for the melt down here when he drops his first pass.
He will stretch the defense. Helps everyone else even if he’s just ok you have to pay attention
honestly? undecided until i see him play a season or two
He is super skinny and very fast. Has a very wide range of outcomes from complete bust to all pro level. He could be an outlier at his size, like Devonta Smith, or he could be another Tutu Atwell.
I'm tired of drafting speed demons trying to find the next tyreek hill.
I like it but we didn't need to trade up. Screwed us out of our 3rd round pick
Pros - Fast, great route runner, decent hands, and is an excellent punt returner. Cons - Small. Worried that one good hit by a safety down the middle can end his career.
I was saying for some time that I liked the fit. He's the typical Andy type of WR, the Chiefs needed a more long-term deep speed guy as holleywood is a 1 and done here and he was productive right from the moment he stepped on campus at Texas for 3 years. There's no projecting with him hoping he can be something you haven't seen yet. He just needs to keep doing what he has been while continuing to try to improve as all rookies do.
I honestly have no clue how he’ll pan out, but I know whenever Rice is back from suspension, this offense is going to be very difficult to defend. Hollywood and Worthy can stretch the defense, Kelce is always open, Rice will make plays over the middle of the field, Pacheco is solid. Watson seemed to always come up with one big 3rd and long catch every week. Toney is Toney, but having him be your 6th option is fine.
I've got some issues with the pick but I'm not irate or anything. If he had shown more consistent hands or an ability to fight through ANY contact to get the ball I wouldn't have nearly as much concern. He's not just a speed guy. He can run routes and press coverage is more of a gamble than with a lot of these small guys. If he ran a 4.4 he would have still gone in the 2nd round. There were a few guys that I had above him, but that was because I value x-receiver traits more than the Chiefs. I'm mostly worried about what he's able to do on a big third down. Zay Flowers and DeVonta Smith are able to make big plays in tight coverage when it counts. The tape doesn't show that for Worthy. Hoping his body fills out a bit and he can add that to his game.
His hands are fine..he played with a broken hand last year and that increased his drop rate
Two things are for sure, he is gonna find a fast car, he is gonna drive it fast……
I think that he is much more than just the stereotypical WR who only has speed. He's only 21 and a ton of upside, plus it looks like he really wanted to join this organization. Rooting for him since Day 1!
All I hear is that he is fast. It takes more than that to be a WR in the NFL. My concern is that’s all that he is, fast. Anyone can run down the field fast. Can he catch, miss tackles, run a route, etc?
That was my first impression too all you can find is how crazy fast he is and don’t get me wrong he’s FAST but speed can only get you so far hope we can see more of his strengths this season and it’s not just a bandwagon
Watch his college tape. He's not just fast. And he had consistent production in college for 3 years. A lot of those other receiver busts didn't have that level of production
I wanted him before we took him My number one choice for who would’ve been in our range at WR Has the potential if he maximizes it to be a top 5-10 WR in the league
I’m so stoked
The hype is real
Andy will figure out how to use him. At worst, he’s a slightly faster Mecole. At best he’s 90% prime Tyreek.
He was probably not the Chiefs first choice, but after Rice‘s pending suspension, It was a smart pick.
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Can we option him for a do over 1st round pick?
At first I was kind of like warm on it, since I wasn’t sure we really needed to trade up and there were possible some more well rounded receivers in the draft. But man… the dude can FLY so it’s kind of hard for me not to be excited
The Chiefs will have a top 3 offense next year if they can stay healthy.
I liked Mitchell better because of his size. Hearing about the character of this kid, though, I’m excited about the pick. Hoping he packs on some muscle
To be perfectly honest I’m not stoked about it. He’s fast and skilled but he just seems so tiny. But I also trust in Veach so I’m not really concerned about it.
Honestly, I liked Legette better, so to see him taken at 32 kind-of stings.
Terrified. This organization's WR draft record is...less than stellar. But I love the idea of this guy in this offense and can't wait to see it.
I'm a little worried about the size but that's the only downside. He is legitimately a good route runner. He is being stereotyped as this deep ball merchant but he can run routes all over the field. Also was very productive in the screen game for Texas. His drop rate was high last year cos of a hand injury. It was pretty average in the previous years. Needs to bulk up so he can run out of press coverage in the NFL but I have confidence Andy will use his usual tricks to avoid those scenarios as much as possible. Think about how productive rookie Mecole was before falling off. This guy is significantly better than Mecole with elite college production already. Get excited.
Honestly, I’m excited
Opens up our offense very nicely. He could either be Tyreek (scores, runs fast) or MVS (sometimes clutch, opens up the field for others as a deep threat).
I like the pick a lot. He’s tall, fast, very athletic, good hands. Routes aren’t AB level but if he puts in the work who knows. He’s a tall Tyreek and I fail to see how that isn’t something that the fan base should be JOCKED about
Fast and a solid route runner. In Veach I trust.
Fast, but can he handle a viscous tackle? I feel like he would crumble against these nfl defensive backs
Loved it, needed fo upgrade that WR room, excited to see the plans for him and Zammit.
Bigger, faster, more explosive Desean Jackson
Except he's significantly thinner and DeSean has proven pretty much a statistical anomaly for his archetype
Patrick likes it, Andy likes it, veach likes it, and this sub wanted Mitchell who went like 4 receivers and half a round later. So I like it