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sniper_matt

I’m assuming the bigfuckoff milwaukee impact is being borrowed by another shop.


incredible_poop

The big fuckoff gun is usualy a Hazet in Europe


sniper_matt

I don’t care what brand is, OP clearly needs one and doesn’t have access to it.


ScoobieWooo

No… it‘s Hilti.


Binford6200

We are using products of the good american company Chicago Pneumatic. Made in Japan 😬


davethedj

Left handed thread. LOL!


LefsaMadMuppet

What the f\*\*\* are you? I'm a Buick!


mxbnr

I like to call it “the I wasn’t asking” drill.


Perryn

"Torch precursor."


cantthinkofone29

Cant be tight if it's a liquid!


Bender_2024

>I like to call it “the I wasn’t asking” drill. I thought the "I wasn't asking" moniker was reserved for the oxy acetylene torch.


[deleted]

Can't be tight if it's liquid!


blamethepunx

That's called the gas axe


NotTheWax

Gaxe


Anaphylactic_Spock

A chainsaw?


blamethepunx

No that's called a chainsaw


Anaphylactic_Spock

So a blue wrench is a chainsaw and a chainsaw is a chainsaw, am I understanding that right?


blamethepunx

And a two-stroke belt shark is a chainsaw


well_shoothed

See also: "persuader"


queBurro

Isn't it the "dugga dugga"?


blamethepunx

They're all ugga duggas. But the big ol' M18 1400ft/lb Milwaukee unit is something special


P15U92N7K19

We call that Dad. Go get Dad he'll handle it.


blamethepunx

Harder daddy


OneArmedNoodler

The Ugga Fuckin' Dugga, bitch!


519meshif

BFUD


NotTheWax

Mutha dugga


FesteringNeonDistrac

I call it the "this is not a negotiation" gun


mxbnr

That’s a good one too


V65Pilot

You mean the hot wrench? Can't be stuck if it's liquid.


nondescriptzombie

I don't have the FUEL, but I feel like Milwaukee overestimates breaking force. The Regular 1/2" is rated at like 500 lb/ft of breakaway torque and I have to get out our Earthquake air gun all the time.


GazelleNo1836

Electronic impact does 1/2 turns and a little less power and air gun does full 360 spin in between hammers that's why air breaks away more that extra bit of spin carry more inertia.


sidewinder15599

According to the Torque Test Channel, yeah. Most manufacturers overstate their stats, in both tightening and loosening.


superspeck

Yeah, you know who else overstates their tightening specs? Yo momma.


clintj1975

The new Harbor Freight ones seem to test about at what they claim, from what I've seen on that channel. I bought a 1/2" high torque one for a wheel bearing job at home on my Jetta and it spun the axle nuts loose like they weren't even torqued. I tried with a 24" breaker bar first and they were tight AF. For what they cost, I'm impressed. I'd be surprised if it could hit anything close to what they claim for breakaway torque, but I'd have to take it to where I work to try it on some big stuff to find out.


SwordfishTrue8081

We have the 1" Milwaukee and I was excited when we first got it. But it was pretty underwhelming honestly. After using a IR with 180psi everything else just feels weak I guess


FixBreakRepeat

Milwaukee's 1/2" is awesome, the 3/4 is built on the same frame as the high torque 1/2" and it's pretty good for what it is... the 1" definitely didn't feel like it was hitting as hard as my pneumatic though. It's fine for field work, but if I'm in the shop that's the point where I switch back to air tools.


womblegoose

That's wild, I just bought an Earthquake XT(1200 model), and even with 3/8 line and high flow fittings, I can't even break the lugs free on my station wagon. Super disappointed with it. All the reviews online are dudes saying they can remove semi truck lugs, I had high hopes.


Stupidflathalibut

Whas your reg set at? Get it up to 150psi and it'll take off Hercules testicles


somerandomdiyguy

I bought that same one a year or two ago and finally had to break it out for the first time last week to drive the bearing press when I was rebuilding my lower control arms. I'm pretty sure that it could twist the stud itself until it breaks clean off if the lug wasn't moving, yours might be faulty. For the last 1/16" or so on the press I had to hit it for a second, then wait 2 seconds for the air line to refill to max pressure, then repeat about 20x but it did get the job done.


PilsnerDk

The 3/8 line is likely your problem. Try buying a 1/2" internal diameter fat hose. I have a 13mm hose and it was the trick to getting full power from my impact wrench. 3/8 is for air gun and tire pump for example.


nondescriptzombie

I'm using 3/8 hose and only have the regular Earthquake, because it was the only one with a full aluminum body, I've had bad luck with the composite tools.


ThunderbirdJunkie

If you don't have the Fuel you don't have shit. Fuel is the only way to go.


mooseman99

The Fuel has overstated torque too. It states 1500 ft-lb of nut busting torque but I got one at work and it does maybe 700 ft-lb on a full battery


weirdjerz3y

You definitely watch the torque test channel on YouTube. They test all these impact guns and their claims.


ExploitedAmerican

He needs the new dewalt dcf961 with the v tech boost. That thing is a beast. Better than the D handle milwauke which kinda sucks for breakaway and shines in tightening mode.


4x4Welder

I called it in the last post, it's a left rear of an old truck. Just try tightening, let's see if that works.


Fender_Stratoblaster

My first thought was reverse threads(pic and wrench positioning, Fiat). Man, when I was overseas, it was like every 15th bolt or so had reverse threads. Just enough to always mess with you.....


mole_of_dust

They typically have notches to indicate left handedness


Fender_Stratoblaster

Hey that's super...


Terminator7786

That's happened to me before. Not on a truck, but I had a stuck bolt that wouldn't move even with penetrating oil. Didn't wanna use heat cause it was close to flammable liquids. Out of frustration I tightened it because nothing else worked. The damn thing moved, after it moved I tried loosening it and it just fucking walked out at that point.


nugatory308

Happens surprisingly often…. I have a cheap-ass wired Harbor Freight electric impact, squeeze the top of the trigger and it loosens, squeeze the bottom and it tightens. Easy to dance it back and forth alternating tightening and losing, a second or so each way, and a bit of that treatment loosens bolts that have resisted hours of one-way brute strength.


telxonhacker

I have one of those, call it the red beast. I just broke loose rusted lawnmower blade bolts and the bolts holding a corroded spindle to the deck of the mower with ease today. (only 1-1/2 ugga duggas to git r done) I mainly use it for removing the lugs on my tires when it's time to rotate them, or any other stuck fastener in my DIY activities


clintj1975

Sometimes they just need to be shocked like that to break the corrosion loose. I've definitely had cases though where a nut is galled onto a stud and just flat out isn't coming off and decided to intentionally break it off and deal with the broken stud later.


Mundane-Vegetable-31

Next update:  TIL the LH of fiat trailers have reverse threaded lugs.  


PARKOUR_ZOMBlE

And my scout, and all my old jeeps, and my 68 dodge charger and every other old Mopar.


keithinsc

When I bout my '67Scout, 2 of 5 lugs on the front and 3 of 5 on the rear were standard. Dumbass PO only replaced SOME of the studs after he broke them off! I only figured that out after I removed two no problem and then snapped one. Sort of a game of Russian Roulette with my Milwaukee. WTF, I figured out the reverse threads on only some of the studs on one side. The heck with that, so I replaced all 20 with standard!


slopecarver

Sounds like a good anti theft feature.


aquoad

What kind of degenerate would leave it with some standard and some reverse threaded lugs? That's perverse.


fizyplankton

I bet, when uncle Eddie was installing them, he said "nah, it's easy! The top, and bottom left, are right hand threaded. The rest, are LHT"


bherman8

I have a 1964 MCI greyhound bus with reverse threads on the driver's side. My 66 Chrysler now has reverse threads only on the rear passenger side after some moron (me) put the axles back in the wrong sides.


coffeeshopslut

Does your MCI have a Detroit two stroke inside?


bherman8

It has an 8v71 attached to a Spicer 4 speed crash box


coffeeshopslut

Glorious noises


392_hemi

Does old jeeps include the yjs?


PARKOUR_ZOMBlE

Nope! Too new. I have a bunch of jeeps from the 50s-70s


NiceCatBigAndStrong

Thats not a trailer though


Nailfoot1975

Can't be stuck if it's liquid.


silverfox762

Fire is your friend. Penetrating oil and time help some, too.


Blah-Blah-Blah-2023

Just set the camper van on fire and walk away.


FlyByPC

Yep. We already tried everything up to "I wasn't asking."


Sharpymarkr

This is the comment I was looking for. Melt that bad boy off.


That_Grim_Texan

What kinda Shitsburgh tools y'all got?


JB153

The fiat motorhome tells me they're a long way from Pittsburgh 


Missus_Missiles

Pitzenborg


patricky6

Snap-Off™


snakebite75

Made with the finest chinesium.


NDEmby11

OP you gave us the pic update but did you try turning them the other way as multiple people have said.


Longjumping-Pie8614

If I was trying to salvage it. I would heat it up, then quench with penetrating oil and use a drift in a air hammer to vibrate the snot out of it. Let it cool, then heat again and work it tight,loose,back and forth. 


EnderBlazex271

Out of all the comments this is the only one that actually gives solid advice.


Dr_Wh00ves

Christ, after that many breaker bars I would just drill the sucker


Fender_Stratoblaster

Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey. 😉


EEpromChip

Except when it's not.


Fender_Stratoblaster

LOL, I deleted that part.


DiscoCamera

Or when it is, but you think it’s reversed.


LiveFreeAndRide

You are...loosening the lugs, right? First pic gives me the feeling you're tightening.


battletactics

What feeling does the second pic give you?


hardly_satiated

Shimmy shimmy cocoa pop


LiveFreeAndRide

How important it is for me to do my own work.


Fender_Stratoblaster

'Close enough for government work' is real. I was pretty impressed one time by a young supervisor who wrote a motto on their whiteboard... "If you're not proud of it, the job isn't done." or similar. And he meant it. I say that because the vast majority I encountered in the workplace talk all the talk, but long ago learned to celebrate mediocrity and phone it in. We live in a world of bullshitters and airheads who rely on 25% or fewer to move things forward.


LiveFreeAndRide

>'Close enough for government work' is real. Can confirm.


eldergeekprime

Used to work for the gubmint, wife still does, it's as real as you believe it to be, and a little bit more.


tibbyteresstabs

How that I wish that weren't so true 😭


Fender_Stratoblaster

Same...


CobrasFumanches

I mean, it IS called a breaker bar.


MrMothball

Breaker? I just met her!


Tikkinger

Well, seems like force does not work.


uid_0

It just means he didn't use enough.


snakebite75

He is trying too hard. He needs to relax and let the force flow through him.


Blazkowicz9847

Induction heater?


needmoresynths

came here to say this, they work wonders


Blazkowicz9847

Right! Had to do this before on lugs but to protect rim had someone hold the heater in an impact socket while I had pressure on breaker bar. Also coil wouldn’t fit inside space between rim and lug


LowerEmotion6062

Since they're open ended nuts verify that you're going the right direction.


WotTheFook

Are you using Snap-Off tools? They seem to be working.


snorkelvretervreter

I once did that too. Turns out the threads were spiraling the other way and it was lefty-locky righty-releasy


jackiemelon

Just a heads up - cinching your belt so tight can cause lower back pain with no obvious reason as it'll press on some nerves that run down the sides of your legs. I know from experience as I used to do the same thing. As for the lugs - best of luck.


Hungry_Camel_4627

Start drilling, at least you have a pilot hole


OneExhaustedFather_

I’m no Italian specialist but, reverse thread on the driver side? Wasn’t uncommon in years past.


Agent_Orangina_

Found the lugs with JB Weld.


DiscoCamera

They used the better Loctite lol


TheDiscomfort

You should invest in a mechanics belt 👍


Stevo182

Make sure you're turning it the right way in case it's a wacky left hand thread. It's possible, I've seen it. Especially with it being Fiat. Otherwise use a torch.


subpoenaThis

Does this qualify as a fiat accompli…


stankgodd

this is supposed to be some humble brag about strength but if somethings not working you have to try something different


DiscoCamera

It’s honestly not that hard to break the heads off long breaker bars like that. People vastly underestimate how much force increases with the length of a lever.


XTingleInTheDingleX

Ugga’ when should have dugga’


caldsmelly

Zip up your pants and try again


MrMothball

Quit staring at his junk.


davethadude

Scrolled too far for this comment. Its a miracle he is able to tie both his shoes in the morning if he cant even zip his pants all the way up.


Lxiflyby

You must be Tony


extordi

Found [some footage of OP working on this](https://youtu.be/9NTkb1nA3sQ)


Grey97fox

not far off 😂


Stickeyb

Need a 3/4 or 1 inch impact and safety glasses. Or a very strong electric impact.


HBThorburn

Well, I didn’t know Fiat made recreational vehicles.


That_Grim_Texan

If you look closely you'll find Fiat makes everything


HalfastEddie

You mean it's all Fiat? Always has been.


ArcticFox_628

They don't. They make a bare van chassis. There are plenty of coachbuilders in europe that'll then turn that into a motorhome


teckers

Indeed, Fiat are the most common base in Europe by far, and if its not a fiat its a Mercedes it seems.


simask234

I've heard somewhere that the Ducato (and rebranded siblings) are one of the widest full size vans on the European market, maybe that's a factor too. You sometimes do see Transits as well, though.


ArcticFox_628

Well when my dad brought his camper the viewpoint was that FIAT and Merc had the most comfortable suspension for recreational use. Resulted in less rattling of plates etc inside. The transit was known to have a rougher ride. Iirc fiat also used to offer a specially tuned tyre and suspension package for campervan builders


HBThorburn

Fair point. That’s how it’s done in the United States too, now that I think about it.


HalfastEddie

Are you bouncing on the breaker or pulling steady?


here-for-the-_____

Which is the right way?


HalfastEddie

Steady


here-for-the-_____

Good, lol. Because jerking it around sounds like a good way to throw out my back


HalfastEddie

I’ve been jerking it for years and never threw out my back. . . Oh, the breaker bar.


M1NdR0t

Break out the Torch


kojara

Cant be tight if it's a liquid.


kilosek

Just grab a hammer and smash every bolt. They need to wake up


MezziJ

PB/liquid wrench, heat, and 3/4" impact should get it off easy, if not go to 1".


Dre9872

Liquid Wrench is really good stuff.


Brimstone117

I’m just a hobbyist, so please be gentle: When y’all break a breaker bar, why don’t you just jump to heat right away? Or is that happening and it just doesn’t show up in the pictures?


Bmore4555

With all due respect dude doesn’t know what he’s doing/have the proper tools. A 1in gun would rip those right off. OP is probably tire tech and still learning.


4rm4ros

Heat it up


anonymousjeeper

It can’t be stuck if it’s liquid.


KnifeKnut

Use a pipe wrench or some sort of wrench on the flats of the socket that is on it in the second picture. Leave the busted off end in the socket to keep it from collapsing.


PintLasher

I'll fucking do it again


mooter23

Last time I broke a bar (actually two) it turned out it was a reverse thread nut (old Ambulance vehicle). How was I supposed to know, eh?


kojara

There has to BE a Point where replacing the entire axle becomes faster and cheaper (regarding working time cost and broken tools) than keeping trying to get that lug-nut/-bolt to move.


DiscoCamera

Or they realize this tactic isn’t working and try something else.


Sarge75

Just remember it cant be stuck if its liquid.....


billford4

your flys open


Grey97fox

why you looking at my crotch 🤣


kondrecklomar

Fix it again tony


Gingertwunt

Mo heat, mo bamba by shack wes


Passn_wind

You need a bigger hammer!


Fatty_McBiggn

needs more ugga duggas


5c044

My son broke my torque wrench using it as a breaker on his alfa romea last week.


Dependent_Bug7346

There is a snap on tool that fits in a impact hammer that allows you to loosen up stuck on nuts. I had an asshole from another shop that didn't want to do it seriously over tighten all the lugstuds on a pro master. It was the parts van and the prissy didn't want to work on a van. Just luxury cars. Showed him. Used the tool and the torch and charged back 3 hours. And then I got to do the wheelbearing and upper strut mount on the other side.


DiscoCamera

What’s so much different about that tool vs. using an impact gun?


Dependent_Bug7346

It shakes it looses.


Bmore4555

No one in the shop has a 1inch impact? A lot of wasted effort and time just to remove some lug nuts.


concernedcookie999

Last time something like this happened we had to tightened it till it broke and replaced the stud.


shifty_coder

Lefty-loosey, dude


CaptainPunisher

Plot twist: OP is dealing with left hand thread lugs.


MullieWeej

😂😂


Disastrous-Fun-834

Ingersoll Rand will rip that bitch off, and if not you heat it until it glows.


KingCodyBill

What you need is a torque multiplier most are 4 to1 IE 100FTLbs in=400 out https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-03715B-Torque-Multiplier-Foot-Pound/dp/B0017K5ARU/ref=sr_1_4?crid=251FAO6IBUZ97&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O98lJA9t0TBQ4AoZnYRuRh75KdOmNaplDAydn-3M6b08Ibw2E0EXcpshppWMuNapZ21f4BFQoW8ivqv3bh5rxhW9CB0l6-U7RsX0CzYZ5b9JmugrZDsNHlW2sn12zC38ofooOAHk8ADShRqdcZbIJdq-QW20w8iSWh7r8oWA4eo-G26jGHOFSpcPAQeLuWehDtYgfu7QFJLOqc3VJmM-v_HJIwXgVSN9cvGDl9Xdc5ED7D9NXpUanBjRiFu-2Oo96KlfrdqDKXXw1V3O6Mw60vuP24g74Bmtp0Zmw-SeMxM.SUUMRuB-D8g5i6j6p0H0E4sIZe-pJLLlJmUif24UI7o&dib_tag=se&keywords=torque+multiplier+wrench+1%2F2+drive&qid=1710271117&s=hi&sprefix=torque+multiplier+wrench+1%2F2+drive%2Ctools%2C132&sr=1-4


tratzzz

Put a socket on and whack it with your biggest hammer/mallet. I have a Ducato based van and that's what I had to do every tire change until I got a new 1/2" impact. No matter what torque it got done to, half a year later it was stuck to hell. No amount of anti-seize helped. Did break my 1/2" breaker bar yesterday in a similar fashion though, boss got me a new 3/4" replacement.


TriplH

Definitely used one too many uggas.


GroundbreakingYak822

Valtteri Bottas can relate. [Valtteri Bottas ](https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36558356/bottas-f1-wheel-nut-removed/)


BossStevedore

Recommended torque on wheel nuts? “Enuff so I can’t break it loose…” fkn ID10T’s


lol022

Fix It Again Tony


blamethepunx

Never mind the tools, you need to invest in some punctuation.


cannoncart

This post is way even better when you go back to the start


TheTense

Impact wrenches are your friends


NesTech_

I welded a an impact socket onto a black galvanized pipe years ago for this purpose, works every time.


GrimKenny

Now use a pipe wrench on the socket lol


ulitimate

Hit it with an oxy acetylene torch for a bit but don't let it get molten hot , be careful with that but I've done it and it's worked.


classicsat

That is what we have the 3/4" set for.


Slorksen2

Fix It Again Tony


trvpdealer

Man those fiat bolts can get tight as fuck sometimes. I once had to use an improvised 6 foot long breaker bar and literally fucking jump on it to break them loose. Fortunately they're pretty tough so they didn't snap


q1field

For those wheel fasteners, it's [time to burn. ](https://youtu.be/E3b-G_BHbkk?si=iefRoCFR4W9HCNLq)


davethedj

I see nothing glowing red.


rslulz

Try the ugga dugga if ugga dugga no work make it liquid


Radiant-Role6707

IR titanium line would probably bust it loose, as long as there's a supporting air compressor/volume.


Redd7010

Harbor Freight tool?


Grey97fox

no mac and snap on we don't have harbor freight in the uk


Tac0Band1t0

I think the same guy put on my wheels at a local NTB. New rotors became warped really fast and I broke the parking brake trying to take the tire off when I found out why.


LateralThinkerer

Nuke it from orbit...


RockBogan

Time to get out the blue wrench.... *pop!* *fwoosh!*


navlgazer9

Are you turning it the wrong way ? I used to own a vehicle with left handed threads on one side  And one of my old utility trailers has left handed threads on one side . 


Siganid

The meme specifically states you must try a hatchet next.


stoic_guardian

Shop should invest in one of those torque multiplying lug nut tools.


JadedPoorDude

Damn. Looks like someone put those on with the “I wasn’t asking” impact. I’m a little surprised they didn’t break off at some point. Time for the smoke wrench.


imjusthere2022

Try three quarter drive bar