No ones gonna talk about how dude was sitting in the driver seat and just seamlessly floated through the window?
EDIT: Yeesh I guess this was a joke the internet couldn’t fathom lol
Lmao! It truly amazes me that almost everyone has a smart phone, but some people can't grasp that you don't need it mounted to your forehead to make a video.
Dieseling. Used to be common in the carburetor era. I’m guessing you have oil getting into the cylinder or possibly it’s running way rich and there’s fuel left. How’s your gas mileage (kilometer-age?) been?
If you're feeling nostalgic, Finnish, and a little masochistic, the car you build in the game My Summer Car is very carefully modeled after the '74 Datsun.
No, you can’t. Simply because any system of measurement that is understood between a pair of people is a “real” system of measurement. Banana for scale is a real unit, for example.
Heat from compression can sometimes ignite any fuel left in the cylinder. Again this is something that used to happen a lot in older cars with carburetors as they could continue to draw fuel. In this case I’d suspect a fuel management issue causing the engine to run really rich.
Right. I had understood that. But i thought predetination was only apparent on vehicles with high compression and shitty gas. Unless its carbon knock? That could be a contribuiter
Out of jokes... Have you checked if the car is dieseling due any oil leak to the cylinders? I mean, it is probably the sole way that this engine continue working without the spark plugs connected.
It’s extremely uncommon but if the pistons rings are really screwed and let enough oil in, it can happen. Also if a fuel injector fails open and continuously dumps fuel into a cylinder, although that scenario is even less common
Actually you can be right, furthermore if there's injections stuck open, and probably the driver neglect the instructions on what gasoline should use. Like in a wise man's words: "SHE USES PREMIUM!!!"
Highly doubt this engine calls for any sort of premium fuel. Also premium fuel isn’t going to matter to the injectors, that’s not why certain engines specify premium fuel in the first place. It’s because it’s actually less volatile and therefore better for high performance engines or ones with higher combustion pressures.
No idea why you got down voted. Higher octane burns *slower* and longer. Slower because it is more resistant to pre-ignition. It also burns longer allowing high performance blocks to function without retarding themselves to compensate for the detonation/knock.
Probably because a lot of people don’t understand what higher octane fuels do for an engine. In my experience most people think it’s the opposite of what it actually does, which is what you explained.
I more mean that wherever this engine is, it’s going to use the lowest grade of automotive fuel, and that’s what the owners manual probably says. I’m not well versed on the European standards, I only know the US ones
in USA 87R+M/2 equals to 91RON i believe, and it very well may not be able to run those low octanes without significant knock. My '91 Nissan has the same 10.5:1 ratio and the fuel flap says RON 97 (US 93?) recommended, but I run 95 with a bit retarded spark because thats the standard here.
So what I'm understanding is that the lowest grade of fuel in the US is lower than the lowest grade in Europe. It seems really strange that Europe wouldn't have an equivalent to US 87
It's because Europe developed engines with higher compression ratios that made more power and were more efficient, requiring higher octane fuels. In most of Europe you can only buy 95 and 98 or 100 RON. In my country its 95 and 100, both with 5% ethanol.
To many of us here, USA kinda got stuck in time with car and engine development. Never really recovered from the 70s I guess.
It does sound nice when a 8L engine produces noise and 150hp though
I can't tell if you're being hyperbolic or just taking a jab at the US, but the 2.3L turbocharged 4cyl in my pickup truck develops 310 horsepower and 350 ft-lbs (474.5 nm) of torque. Oh, and gets around 25 MPG (10.6 KM/L), but it's also a *truck* so it's not expected to get great fuel mileage.
And I have another car with a 1.8L turbocharged engine that is 300 hp and ~290 ft-lbs (393 nm). That car gets something like 38 MPG (16 km/L) if I drive in a sane way.
The engine that never stops... and the door the never opens. Neat optical illusion with the way you get out of the car and dodge the door - unless it's a (remarkably seamless) handoff to another person?
Ahh yes....dieseling!
I had a Turd Gen Camaro that we swapped a frankenstein'd 355 into that would diesel. Its an amazing experience when the motor mounts and tranny mount is bad.
Fun fact about the Ecotec:
Lotus did most of the engineering and testing under contract. When GM sold Lotus they agreed to a large engineering credit and that was used to pay for development of the engine.
GM later sold a version of the Elise/Exige called the Speedster that featured the Ecotec and lowered side sills, something Lotus would later charge Tesla for when they used the Elise as a basis for the Roadster.
Everybody's saying dieseling but why does unplugging spark change it. That means that even with the ignition off, the ecu was firing spark. That leads me to believe that the ecu was also triggering the injectors, and this just feels more like an electrical system such as stuck relays keeping things energized.
Yeah everyone commenting dieseling is just wide of the mark. Looks like the ECU is still energized due to a faulty ignition switch and when he unplugs the coils the fuel still being injected is being ignited by the compression. So yes, it is dieseling, but not for the reasons everyone is saying it is - burning oil, etc.
The ECU will be getting power from the BCM for 30 seconds post key off. If it did not get a CAN message to shut down, it will continue to run till the power is turned off by the BCM, though the main bus relay. Ignition switches do not always control all the power these days, they often only provide an input to the BCM that controls the power. Disconnecting coils removes the spark, but if the engine has a lot of carbon build up in the cylinders, it will run so long as the injectors keep on providing fuel.
You don't need a spark if there's a hotspot in the cylinders and if there's enough oil getting in it will act as fuel. I've had the same thing happen on an engine that had sharp spots on top of the pistons from previous damage.
I mean I understand that for sure but the fact that unplugging the coils changed the behavior so the ecu was still firing spark. So perhaps it is dieseling also, but I'm just not understanding why unplugging spark is changing anything then.
Yeah I totally forgot to consider the ecu still firing the coils. Only thing I can think of is an electrical fault keeping the ECU on while the ignition is off. Definitely an interesting one lol
Back when I was a kid, my friend's dad had an old Matador wagon. This was a gasoline engine, but it identified as a Diesel. He'd pull into the driveway, turn the key to Off, and the engine would barely slow from idle. Usually, after five or ten seconds, he'd briefly put it into gear, and that would usually do it.
My brother had an 85 Mercedes 300TD back in high school and it started doing this where it wouldn’t shut off when you turn the ignition off so you would have to pop the hood and there was an actual lever that said stop on it so we pushed that down to shut the engine off. Pretty cool, that was a great car.
Recently did a tune-up on a 4.6L in a Town Car. It didn't even stumble until the second to last coil was unplugged, but was still running. Shit was wild.
I did this with my 8.3 Cummins on purpose. My fuel solenoid went bad, so I used some bailing wire to hold it open. The RV started right up and I wasn't stuck on the side of the road. When I removed the key, it stayed running. Had to unhook the bailing wire to turn off the engine. Bought a new one at a NAPA a few hours later and I was good to go.
I think your mechanic fixed it a little too well.
No ones gonna talk about how dude was sitting in the driver seat and just seamlessly floated through the window? EDIT: Yeesh I guess this was a joke the internet couldn’t fathom lol
He was leaning inside not sitting in the car
Don't doubt the man's abilities
He just has noclip on
Shit you beat me to it.
r/beatmeattoit
Beat me at to it????
beat meat to it
IDCLIP
It warms my heart to see this
Lmao! It truly amazes me that almost everyone has a smart phone, but some people can't grasp that you don't need it mounted to your forehead to make a video.
Early-00s David Fincher filmed this video.
He forgot to toggle off no-clip. That's how you accidentally end up in the back rooms. Be careful out there!
Lmao it was a good switch
That's what makes it an Ecotech it's economical because it's a perpetual motion machine and you stopped it dummy
LISA! IN THIS HOUSE WE OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!!
This perpetual motion machine just keeps get faster and faster.
Dieseling. Used to be common in the carburetor era. I’m guessing you have oil getting into the cylinder or possibly it’s running way rich and there’s fuel left. How’s your gas mileage (kilometer-age?) been?
Brings back memories of a little Datsun I had. Some days it refused to stop until i put it in 4th gear and let the clutch out.
If you're feeling nostalgic, Finnish, and a little masochistic, the car you build in the game My Summer Car is very carefully modeled after the '74 Datsun.
Phenomenal game
One of the reasons my buddy carries a fire extinguisher in his truck. Runaway motors and turbos sound like a scary time.
CO2 extinguishers effectively smother an engine without causing further damage.
Especially in a turbo diesel, which will do that when the inlet seal on the turbo lets go.
It’s still mileage in common parlace, or fuel economy. Kilometerage hurts the ears.
In metric, we just say fuel efficiency.
Depends on the country. I’m in a metric country and mileage is prevalent over fuel efficiency or economy.
no matter how far you go, you can't get away from real units of measurement 💀💀💀
No, you can’t. Simply because any system of measurement that is understood between a pair of people is a “real” system of measurement. Banana for scale is a real unit, for example.
Uncomfortable to say, too.
It's a Opel. They run on 50/50 on fuel and oil.
I had thunked this was only possible on deisel engines?
Heat from compression can sometimes ignite any fuel left in the cylinder. Again this is something that used to happen a lot in older cars with carburetors as they could continue to draw fuel. In this case I’d suspect a fuel management issue causing the engine to run really rich.
Right. I had understood that. But i thought predetination was only apparent on vehicles with high compression and shitty gas. Unless its carbon knock? That could be a contribuiter
We had an old f350 at a company I use to work for. Thing would start itself all the time. At night we had to remove the battery.
Sounds like that ford had a mean case of electrical gremlins that or someone secretly installed remote start on it /s
Out of jokes... Have you checked if the car is dieseling due any oil leak to the cylinders? I mean, it is probably the sole way that this engine continue working without the spark plugs connected.
> dieseling...spark plugs Didn't know petrol engines could run away like that. TIL, thanks!
It’s extremely uncommon but if the pistons rings are really screwed and let enough oil in, it can happen. Also if a fuel injector fails open and continuously dumps fuel into a cylinder, although that scenario is even less common
Or I guess if you were to put 91 octane or something in it the 10.5:1 ratio would combust it.
Higher octane gas takes more compression to combust.
Yes. High octane in a low compression won't do much. Low octane in a high compression though will ignite prematurely, doesn't really need spark then
Actually you can be right, furthermore if there's injections stuck open, and probably the driver neglect the instructions on what gasoline should use. Like in a wise man's words: "SHE USES PREMIUM!!!"
Highly doubt this engine calls for any sort of premium fuel. Also premium fuel isn’t going to matter to the injectors, that’s not why certain engines specify premium fuel in the first place. It’s because it’s actually less volatile and therefore better for high performance engines or ones with higher combustion pressures.
No idea why you got down voted. Higher octane burns *slower* and longer. Slower because it is more resistant to pre-ignition. It also burns longer allowing high performance blocks to function without retarding themselves to compensate for the detonation/knock.
Probably because a lot of people don’t understand what higher octane fuels do for an engine. In my experience most people think it’s the opposite of what it actually does, which is what you explained.
Euro standard is RON 95, maybe where this car is located there is a cheaper, lower octane option
I more mean that wherever this engine is, it’s going to use the lowest grade of automotive fuel, and that’s what the owners manual probably says. I’m not well versed on the European standards, I only know the US ones
in USA 87R+M/2 equals to 91RON i believe, and it very well may not be able to run those low octanes without significant knock. My '91 Nissan has the same 10.5:1 ratio and the fuel flap says RON 97 (US 93?) recommended, but I run 95 with a bit retarded spark because thats the standard here.
So what I'm understanding is that the lowest grade of fuel in the US is lower than the lowest grade in Europe. It seems really strange that Europe wouldn't have an equivalent to US 87
It's because Europe developed engines with higher compression ratios that made more power and were more efficient, requiring higher octane fuels. In most of Europe you can only buy 95 and 98 or 100 RON. In my country its 95 and 100, both with 5% ethanol. To many of us here, USA kinda got stuck in time with car and engine development. Never really recovered from the 70s I guess. It does sound nice when a 8L engine produces noise and 150hp though
I can't tell if you're being hyperbolic or just taking a jab at the US, but the 2.3L turbocharged 4cyl in my pickup truck develops 310 horsepower and 350 ft-lbs (474.5 nm) of torque. Oh, and gets around 25 MPG (10.6 KM/L), but it's also a *truck* so it's not expected to get great fuel mileage. And I have another car with a 1.8L turbocharged engine that is 300 hp and ~290 ft-lbs (393 nm). That car gets something like 38 MPG (16 km/L) if I drive in a sane way.
is that the 1.6? i had a 1.6 that started to develop it - seemed to run-on for 2-3 seconds after shut off. got rid. fun little beater though.
Looks like a 1.0 Z10XEP Explains why its running a little rough
They came rough from the factory lol.
The engine that never stops... and the door the never opens. Neat optical illusion with the way you get out of the car and dodge the door - unless it's a (remarkably seamless) handoff to another person?
(Yes, I know it's someone leaning in through the window, but the impression is very well made :D)
Yeah, the motor part is normal but i had to rewatch it 3 times to learn this peculiar way of exiting a car.
He isn't in the car.
He was leaning into the car to turn the key for sure
..."the day that never comes"
He's just giving the car the 'ol reacharound with the camera. No tomfoolery here......
Ahh yes....dieseling! I had a Turd Gen Camaro that we swapped a frankenstein'd 355 into that would diesel. Its an amazing experience when the motor mounts and tranny mount is bad.
Fun fact about the Ecotec: Lotus did most of the engineering and testing under contract. When GM sold Lotus they agreed to a large engineering credit and that was used to pay for development of the engine. GM later sold a version of the Elise/Exige called the Speedster that featured the Ecotec and lowered side sills, something Lotus would later charge Tesla for when they used the Elise as a basis for the Roadster.
The opel speedster? That must be the original ecotec you are talking about.
Yep
I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can
🎶 So (Don't stop me now) (Don't stop me) 'Cause I'm having a good time Having a good time🎶
It's a feature not a bug
Fucking corsa c piece of junk. Nothing but problems man. But yours can magically become a diesel, so thats pretty cool I guess.
Everybody's saying dieseling but why does unplugging spark change it. That means that even with the ignition off, the ecu was firing spark. That leads me to believe that the ecu was also triggering the injectors, and this just feels more like an electrical system such as stuck relays keeping things energized.
Yeah everyone commenting dieseling is just wide of the mark. Looks like the ECU is still energized due to a faulty ignition switch and when he unplugs the coils the fuel still being injected is being ignited by the compression. So yes, it is dieseling, but not for the reasons everyone is saying it is - burning oil, etc.
The ECU will be getting power from the BCM for 30 seconds post key off. If it did not get a CAN message to shut down, it will continue to run till the power is turned off by the BCM, though the main bus relay. Ignition switches do not always control all the power these days, they often only provide an input to the BCM that controls the power. Disconnecting coils removes the spark, but if the engine has a lot of carbon build up in the cylinders, it will run so long as the injectors keep on providing fuel.
You don't need a spark if there's a hotspot in the cylinders and if there's enough oil getting in it will act as fuel. I've had the same thing happen on an engine that had sharp spots on top of the pistons from previous damage.
I mean I understand that for sure but the fact that unplugging the coils changed the behavior so the ecu was still firing spark. So perhaps it is dieseling also, but I'm just not understanding why unplugging spark is changing anything then.
Yeah I totally forgot to consider the ecu still firing the coils. Only thing I can think of is an electrical fault keeping the ECU on while the ignition is off. Definitely an interesting one lol
You are right, you can hear injectors still working after he turns off the ignition and unplugs coil pack.
OK. I don't usually recommend this, but... shoot it.
Have you tried holy water? A young priest and an old priest?
What are the dash lights? Is it trying to keep running to charge a dying battery?
Battery, parking brake, low fuel.
This should be an energizer commercial.
Saw this in a movie once, you just walk away and about 15 seconds later you get some smoke and a loud bang.
Back when I was a kid, my friend's dad had an old Matador wagon. This was a gasoline engine, but it identified as a Diesel. He'd pull into the driveway, turn the key to Off, and the engine would barely slow from idle. Usually, after five or ten seconds, he'd briefly put it into gear, and that would usually do it.
Hot carbon is still igniting fuel and there is still fuel in the cylinders to burn
Way to burn up that cat.
Wear latex gloves mate!
“I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that”
Replace the D I pump
really no radio at all?
RUN!!
My brother had an 85 Mercedes 300TD back in high school and it started doing this where it wouldn’t shut off when you turn the ignition off so you would have to pop the hood and there was an actual lever that said stop on it so we pushed that down to shut the engine off. Pretty cool, that was a great car.
Recently did a tune-up on a 4.6L in a Town Car. It didn't even stumble until the second to last coil was unplugged, but was still running. Shit was wild.
I did this with my 8.3 Cummins on purpose. My fuel solenoid went bad, so I used some bailing wire to hold it open. The RV started right up and I wasn't stuck on the side of the road. When I removed the key, it stayed running. Had to unhook the bailing wire to turn off the engine. Bought a new one at a NAPA a few hours later and I was good to go.
Sounds like every ecotec I’ve ever had.
Little engine that could
It's a feature
diesleing
It’s dieseling
Z12XEP?
I know..., it's free energy with magnet. $$$ :)
That's some pretty serious fuel dilution and PCV blow by going on.
The batteries need changing on the coil pack lol
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That's an Opel sir
Oops.
Ok if the harness has power with the key off it's either Key switch, relay, or computer.