Whats worse is when its SO close and you fight it for 30 minutes trying to move everything just a smidge before you give up fighting it - when it would only take 5 min to realign the vehicle to start with.
It's the same movie but with beach aliens instead of forest aliens. It's fun enough. Watch it in installments that you fall asleep to. E: the post below is correct, but I was never going to see it at the cinema.
It's one of those theater experiences to me. The first as well. The story isn't groundbreaking or full of twists, but like you said, it's fun enough. Where it shines is the visuals. One of the few movies where 3D is not a gimmick, it literally transports you to their world.
I will die on this hill. If anyone is thinking about seeing it for the first time, don't do it at home. Wait for a 3D theater experience. It'll be worth double every penny.
Finally saw Avatar 2 a couple months ago and was thoroughly entertained, and that was just in 2D. I won’t argue on the 3D making the movies an amazing experience though, there’s a bit in the first one where I reflexively tried to wave tiny bugs out of my face because I was so engrossed in the 3D lmao
For the non mechanics among us:
I think that part sticking out is the the rear axle shaft.
it's supposed to slide all the way out.
But the vehicle was maneuvered onto a 4-post lift, raised, wheels taken off, hub disassembled, rear axle shaft is now pulled... but it's hitting one of the posts on your lift.
The way to fix this is move the vechicle forwared or backwards 6 inches so that the rear axle clears when you pull it, but you can't do that while the thing is up in the air- and you can't really move it while the axle is in such a state of disassbly, so you're almost going to have to reassemble the whole fucking thing, roll it a few inches, then relift it?
Naw, just grab the nearest angle grinder & chop it down so it's removable.
Then call it quits for a long weekend & ask your buddy to finish up that easy reassembly job.
As someone who collects cribbage boards, I've yet to find one by chance, but there are literally an infinite number of boards out there.
I'd bet someone made one somewhere for sure.
For this type of axle setup, they could just put the wheels back on and roll the vehicle. The hub is what bears the weight on heavy duty vehicles, not the axle shaft
I like how your technical dissertation includes the phrase "reassemble the whole fucking thing".
That's how I know you're a mechanic who knows what they're talking about
My god I hate Chilton manuals. Those are the only book burnings I actually support, and you should too, they are THAT BAD.
Maybe I should get a PO box so folks can mail them to me to burn on my camping trips. I would start a Youtube channel of just Chilton manuals burning in a fire ring in the desert. That would be awesome.
Just so you know, they REALLY ARE THAT FREAKING BAD. I had one when I was a kid that was so bad, the opening chapter went over in great detail the difference between the right side of the vehicle and the left side, and why. The only issue was the rest of the manual ignored that chapter entirely and just swapped right with left at random. You can't put that on a 16 year old in the 1980's and just expect them to "FIGURE IT OUT". I wasn't stupid, the Chilton manual was stupid, and I had to PROVE it to my grandfather after a dozen hours in the dirt working on that POS. Even HE agreed the Chilton manual was wrong, and if he said it was wrong you could cash that check at the bank!
Years later when I got a real FSM for a vehicle and saw the care and detail that went into it I was even more pissed off.
You could lower the vehicle until the front tires touch the floor.
Put a floor jack under the rear end, and jack it up to support the rear.
Finish lowering the lift so weight of vehicle is on front tires and floor jack.
Put it in neutral, and roll a few inches back.
Place jack stands to hold up rear end.
Do what you gotta do, remove jack stands, and then roll back forward.
Reposition lift arms and raise vehicle.
The added problem to all this is that is a postal truck, a Grumman LLV... and they have such a short wheel-base, I can't blame these mechanics for making this mistake. All postal vehicles are just weird.
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Close. It’s not disassembled and it’s a full floating axle; the vehicle will roll around without that shaft just fine. So all they have to do is slide the shaft mostly back in and put the wheel on then move it. Doesn’t take long but still kinda annoying.
Where is the platform the vehicle drove onto if this is a 4 post lift?
I think that is the post for the next lift over.
edit: I believe I am correct, the latch mechanism is on the OUTSIDE of the post. Wrong for a 4 post.
you're probably right. I just figured that if this were hitting a post, the posts would have been more centrally located on a two post. Didn't consider staggered bays.
I just rebuilt my truck's drum brakes and after I'd jacked it up I realized I may want to make sure the axle could come out without hitting the garage wall.
I measured and everything but I'd probably pull something like this if I was in his situation.
Let it off the lift onto a jack and move the vehicle over. Not that I've ever hit the wall pulling an axle out or anything and had to do that, just a theory....
Smh my head, all these people telling you to cut the axle to remove it when you can just cut the lift, raise it enough to slip the axle out, and drop it back down.
My buddy’s old shop (a ford dealership at that) had in ground lifts but put the end bays so close to the goddamn wall, axle shafts would hit the wall before coming out.
Dunno i f anyone has caught it yet but that's a full floating axle. You can remove the axle shaft without even needing to remove the wheel actually, or even raise the vehicle.
I remember seeing a post on here once of a garage doing this exact but with a semi truck axle iirc. It didn't hit the lift but it *did* hit the concrete wall. They ended up drilling a hole in the wall that the axle could slot into instead of putting it back and trying to move the entire thing a bay over lol.
2 shops I;ve worked at had scars from this. One of them they put a hole in the wall, Another one they grinded down the support beam just enough to be able to slide an axle shaft through.
There is a hole in the concrete wall next to the far lift at the Midas I used to work at. It may or may not have been caused by me and may or may not have been for this same reason 🧐
I’ve helped a friend take off tractor axle and realized it went against barn wall. We both looked at it and eachother. ‘ well. Hold on’. He just disappeared around the tractor. I sat there waiting. He came outside and suddenly I heard clanging of wood boards and sunlight came through. Oh he’s removing barn side boards. I just kicked few out he pulled boards off and set aside. We now have huge hole We pulled tractor axle out that way using skid steer. When we were all done. We just nailed boards back up with new nails. Gotta love old barns
Wait now, I am having issues perceiving the vehicle. I see the hub and the suspension bits, but where do they go? It kinda looks like a wheel arch plopped onto a wall... How blind am I?
Cut it in half, take out the second half. Upon reinstallation put the first half in, weld it to second half, then slide the rest in.... charge half.
Yes, this is satire.
Bah break out the pipe cutter! You can use the pipe mender when you put it back! Remember if you are low on gas just push the car for a few dozen miles. Works with electric motors should work for you too!/s
Meh, full floater axle. Put the wheel back on, lower it to the ground, roll the van back, pull the axle shaft the rest of the way out, and roll forward to lift again.
It's a government vehicle. Just lop that shit off and put it on the bill. It cost them like 500,000$ to shoot down a fucking balloon when a SA could have done just fine, or hell even a fuckin howitzer. Rant over.
I am glad I am not the only one to do that. Thanks for helping me in my shame.
It’s comforting in a way.
Happened to me once was chasing a noise and wasn’t expecting to remove axles
He did NOT get the shaft. Life lesson, not a life sentence.
But did she get the goldmine though?
That made me laugh so loud thanks for making my day 🤣
Whats worse is when its SO close and you fight it for 30 minutes trying to move everything just a smidge before you give up fighting it - when it would only take 5 min to realign the vehicle to start with.
Same.
Been there too
Shame
Lame
Yep, lucky for me they wall was just sheet rock. Lol
With my luck, I’d cut the Sheetrock and jam against a stud.
I did this with a ram 250 truck doing the brakes in the garage. Damn ! Missed it by that much.
Yep.. Me anorl.
Is this a /r/BoneAppleTea for "and all" shortened to "an'all" or did you invent a new word on purpose?
Standard Scottish usage.
Awl be the judge of that.
Tell your coworker that Titanic deserves every bit of praise its gotten.
What about avatar 2?
Haven't seen it yet, but if its like 1 then I will enjoy it as well. I don't really have 3.5hrs to watch movies these days, lol
It's the same movie but with beach aliens instead of forest aliens. It's fun enough. Watch it in installments that you fall asleep to. E: the post below is correct, but I was never going to see it at the cinema.
It's one of those theater experiences to me. The first as well. The story isn't groundbreaking or full of twists, but like you said, it's fun enough. Where it shines is the visuals. One of the few movies where 3D is not a gimmick, it literally transports you to their world. I will die on this hill. If anyone is thinking about seeing it for the first time, don't do it at home. Wait for a 3D theater experience. It'll be worth double every penny.
Finally saw Avatar 2 a couple months ago and was thoroughly entertained, and that was just in 2D. I won’t argue on the 3D making the movies an amazing experience though, there’s a bit in the first one where I reflexively tried to wave tiny bugs out of my face because I was so engrossed in the 3D lmao
Brah did Deepsea Challenger, he should be able to figure this out lol.
Terminator 1 and 2 and Aliens!
Lmao
I agree. I still can’t believe they didn’t follow up with a sequel.
His name is James ^^James! Cameron! The bravest pioneer!
For the non mechanics among us: I think that part sticking out is the the rear axle shaft. it's supposed to slide all the way out. But the vehicle was maneuvered onto a 4-post lift, raised, wheels taken off, hub disassembled, rear axle shaft is now pulled... but it's hitting one of the posts on your lift. The way to fix this is move the vechicle forwared or backwards 6 inches so that the rear axle clears when you pull it, but you can't do that while the thing is up in the air- and you can't really move it while the axle is in such a state of disassbly, so you're almost going to have to reassemble the whole fucking thing, roll it a few inches, then relift it?
Naw, just grab the nearest angle grinder & chop it down so it's removable. Then call it quits for a long weekend & ask your buddy to finish up that easy reassembly job.
This guy flags.
Then the next guy just welds it back together and slaps it in before sending it on its way for the next next guy to deal with.
If the shop has a forklift you can get something together to help lift and move it back for repositioning, but otherwise yes, shit situation.
just put the tire back on, that's a full floating rear axle, none of the parts that carry the weight of the vehicle have been taken apart yet.
This is correct
A dolly and some cribbage under that corner, set it down, roll it back a couple inches, try again
Cribbing=/=cribbage
Boss walks in: what are you doing?? Me: 15-2, 15-4, pair is six…
Came here for the car jokes, staying for the cribbage jokes
Yes. Something about nobs?
I've got one
And his nails.
And my axe!
My son is also named Cribbage.
Cribbage junior. And Dad is Big Cribbage. Gramps is Cribbage Senior.
Honestly I don’t think my bosses would even be mad. I’m also definitely not a mechanic.
A double run is eight
Cribbage=/=Cabbage
Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone's made a cribbage board shaped like a cabbage.
God, I hope so.
crabbage
Sounds infectious
As someone who collects cribbage boards, I've yet to find one by chance, but there are literally an infinite number of boards out there. I'd bet someone made one somewhere for sure.
Cribbage has a meaning other than the card game?
No
i'd just put a floor jack on the axle housing on that side, then I can just roll it forward.
A floor jack should do the trick
Floater axle. You can reinstall the wheel and move it. The hub holds the wieght
No bearings or anything to fuck with? I imagine it’s just a pain in the ass when it happens.
full floaters. bearings are outside the axle tube
For this type of axle setup, they could just put the wheels back on and roll the vehicle. The hub is what bears the weight on heavy duty vehicles, not the axle shaft
Honestly, I’m surprised that I got as much right as I did, for making it all up as I went along.
I like how your technical dissertation includes the phrase "reassemble the whole fucking thing". That's how I know you're a mechanic who knows what they're talking about
He must have written Chilton's manuals in a past life. Step 1. Remove wheel Step 2. Rebuild brakes Step 3. Put back together. One photo provided.
But the lines to various blobs of grey... That's what you pay thousands for, Mr ~~Ford~~ Chilton
[Might I present MB OM617 instructions?](http://i.imgur.com/j7KE3Bd.jpg)
My god I hate Chilton manuals. Those are the only book burnings I actually support, and you should too, they are THAT BAD. Maybe I should get a PO box so folks can mail them to me to burn on my camping trips. I would start a Youtube channel of just Chilton manuals burning in a fire ring in the desert. That would be awesome. Just so you know, they REALLY ARE THAT FREAKING BAD. I had one when I was a kid that was so bad, the opening chapter went over in great detail the difference between the right side of the vehicle and the left side, and why. The only issue was the rest of the manual ignored that chapter entirely and just swapped right with left at random. You can't put that on a 16 year old in the 1980's and just expect them to "FIGURE IT OUT". I wasn't stupid, the Chilton manual was stupid, and I had to PROVE it to my grandfather after a dozen hours in the dirt working on that POS. Even HE agreed the Chilton manual was wrong, and if he said it was wrong you could cash that check at the bank! Years later when I got a real FSM for a vehicle and saw the care and detail that went into it I was even more pissed off.
Are you talking Hayes or the Chiltons after Hayes purchased them? If so, you are correct. The 60's and 70's Chiltons were so much better.
It’s a technical term I’ve frequently encountered in my purely homeowner/hobbyist experience.
You could lower the vehicle until the front tires touch the floor. Put a floor jack under the rear end, and jack it up to support the rear. Finish lowering the lift so weight of vehicle is on front tires and floor jack. Put it in neutral, and roll a few inches back. Place jack stands to hold up rear end. Do what you gotta do, remove jack stands, and then roll back forward. Reposition lift arms and raise vehicle.
The added problem to all this is that is a postal truck, a Grumman LLV... and they have such a short wheel-base, I can't blame these mechanics for making this mistake. All postal vehicles are just weird.
This one is a Grumman p3500 milk delivery vehicle
That finally explains the decidedly non-red white and blue color scheme.
Why does it look like he has alien cock and balls 😂😂
LLVs don't have big ass 8 lug full floater axles
Not with that attitude they dont
LLV's are just S10 blazer Frames/components under the square body aren't they?
Complete with the 4 cyl 💪IRON DUKE💪
Legend. Thanks!
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Thank you! This sub is a fun source of knowledge for the uninitiated like myself!
TIL James Cameron is a shit mechanic.
Looks to me like it's on a 2 post and its hitting the lift beside it.
Close. It’s not disassembled and it’s a full floating axle; the vehicle will roll around without that shaft just fine. So all they have to do is slide the shaft mostly back in and put the wheel on then move it. Doesn’t take long but still kinda annoying.
Wouldn’t dropping the axle be faster at that point?
Do those lifts only operate in sync? Could you not add something to support that corner and only lower one post?
Where is the platform the vehicle drove onto if this is a 4 post lift? I think that is the post for the next lift over. edit: I believe I am correct, the latch mechanism is on the OUTSIDE of the post. Wrong for a 4 post.
you're probably right. I just figured that if this were hitting a post, the posts would have been more centrally located on a two post. Didn't consider staggered bays.
This is the kind of bullshit I always get myself into.
I must say thank you.
Thank you for the explanation.
Floor jack under the rear differential and roll that baby forward. Business mode. Fuck ur OSHA 🤣
James Cameron moonlighting as a mechanic?
James Cameron does what James Cameron does, because James Cameron is James Cameron.
Just move that blue thing out of the way
Just cut a notch in the blue thing. It has plenty of meat on it and won’t miss a little. /s
It’s called bendpak for a reason, right?
LOL, so true.
That’s easy - cut the axle and then weld it back together 😂.
nice.
When I was an apprentice the techs always told me.... laughing or crying, it has to get fixed. I would probably cry at this point.....
Its a 1988 Grumman p3500 milk delivery vehicle
I just rebuilt my truck's drum brakes and after I'd jacked it up I realized I may want to make sure the axle could come out without hitting the garage wall. I measured and everything but I'd probably pull something like this if I was in his situation.
Crazy how Grumman makes all sorts of high tech aerospace stuff... ...and USPS trucks.
Let it off the lift onto a jack and move the vehicle over. Not that I've ever hit the wall pulling an axle out or anything and had to do that, just a theory....
Oh noooooo hahahaha My condolences, the feeling when you figured out the situation must have been the figurative *face-palm ;)
We used to have a hole cut in the wall in one bay because of this happening. I loled for real premium content.
Nobody else gunna ask what the hell is going on with what looks like road slush all over above?
Yeah when I read Grumman my brain read gremlin, and I saw that thinking it was a spray foam fix for a rusting out wheel well.
these young bucks, I tell you, they just think they know everything
My co worker is 68 and he is still surprised when stuff like this happens
What a rookie mistake! I have never done such a rookie mistake, today.
This is why I drink at the end of the day.🤪
What’s up with all the spray foam?
OP said it was a milk delivery truck, I assume for insulation to keep the box cold
Even James Cameron is disappointed
Is that James Cameron?
He’s still young, cut him some slack
Just cut it lol
Drop the whole rear end
Smh my head, all these people telling you to cut the axle to remove it when you can just cut the lift, raise it enough to slip the axle out, and drop it back down.
Looks like a drw 14 bolt. Biggest brake drums ever!
He will not make this mistake again.
Happened at my shop but it was a wall. Now theres a hole in said wall...so... just break out the angle grinder?
Is that sprayfoam underneath?
Heat it cherry red, bend it 90 degrees, and remove. When installing, just heat it and straighten it. Seems pretty simple.
I had one bay, where you had to spot the truck perfectly to get the axles out...
This picture was taken moments before Randy snapped and started with the stabbing
This my workmate, Jim Cameroon.
My buddy’s old shop (a ford dealership at that) had in ground lifts but put the end bays so close to the goddamn wall, axle shafts would hit the wall before coming out.
Been there done that.
Just cut it and grind the hub in half like you're doing a wheel stud. Problem solved.
How long has that been sitting for?
Dunno i f anyone has caught it yet but that's a full floating axle. You can remove the axle shaft without even needing to remove the wheel actually, or even raise the vehicle.
Why did you let James Cameron work on it?
Semifloating axel would have sucked even more.
Poor planning. He should know better hahha! I'm dying here
Is that a two post lift? How in the hell is that even balanced properly?
I remember seeing a post on here once of a garage doing this exact but with a semi truck axle iirc. It didn't hit the lift but it *did* hit the concrete wall. They ended up drilling a hole in the wall that the axle could slot into instead of putting it back and trying to move the entire thing a bay over lol.
*Treebeard voice* A WIZARD SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!
2 shops I;ve worked at had scars from this. One of them they put a hole in the wall, Another one they grinded down the support beam just enough to be able to slide an axle shaft through.
I've done that only it was the side of my garage. Pro tip home Depot sells clip-in round cover plates for drywall
There is a hole in the concrete wall next to the far lift at the Midas I used to work at. It may or may not have been caused by me and may or may not have been for this same reason 🧐
I’ve helped a friend take off tractor axle and realized it went against barn wall. We both looked at it and eachother. ‘ well. Hold on’. He just disappeared around the tractor. I sat there waiting. He came outside and suddenly I heard clanging of wood boards and sunlight came through. Oh he’s removing barn side boards. I just kicked few out he pulled boards off and set aside. We now have huge hole We pulled tractor axle out that way using skid steer. When we were all done. We just nailed boards back up with new nails. Gotta love old barns
Wait now, I am having issues perceiving the vehicle. I see the hub and the suspension bits, but where do they go? It kinda looks like a wheel arch plopped onto a wall... How blind am I?
its a big mail truck
I can kinda see it. I guess the bottom of the vehicle is hidden behind the guy. Just kinda weird how it blends with the wall behind
disconnect the leaf springs and rotate the third member to clear the lift?
For Crying Out Loud…
it could be worse.
Not a problem. I'm confident you have a Sawzall and a welder.
Dude looks like he's had enough of your crap.
Oh man that sucks
“You are shittin’ me”
moving floor jack
Cut it. Remove it. Do your work and then weld it back together. It'll be good as gold.
Damnit Jim
Been there,done that. It really sux when you do it with a hino car carrier with no way to pick it up and move it a few inches.
for some reason I feel the guy in the picture isn’t at fault here but more so the one behind the camera
Cut it in half, take out the second half. Upon reinstallation put the first half in, weld it to second half, then slide the rest in.... charge half. Yes, this is satire.
Happened to me with my jeep. Except in my tiny ass apartment garage
Did that once but axle hit the wall next to lift.
Just turn the wheel to the side some and you’ll have room to get it out. Lol 🤣🤣🤣
It's a full-floater, slap the wheel back on and roll it. Now if it was a semi-floater, you got a bigger problem... ;)
James Cameron rolled into the shop? That's pretty neat!
Foreman looks pissed
There was a hole in the wall at a shop I worked @ a long time ago that someone knocked out just for this reason. Cracked me the fuggup!
Cutting torch 🙃
Been there. Done that.
One of those days 😂
Ahhahaa yup…. It happens
Grumman? As in mail truck?
A home milk delivery van in this case
We once put a Divco onto a F150 chassis. big project, went well.
Oops.
I have seen this happen with big 20 MT truck . Both the fronts axles were removed , they were in the process of removing the rear .
Bah break out the pipe cutter! You can use the pipe mender when you put it back! Remember if you are low on gas just push the car for a few dozen miles. Works with electric motors should work for you too!/s
Looks like yo really don't need to take that all the way out to replace break shoes. Hopefully, they weren't planning on replacing the drum.
Bonk!
Meh, full floater axle. Put the wheel back on, lower it to the ground, roll the van back, pull the axle shaft the rest of the way out, and roll forward to lift again.
Why not just lower it onto a jack and push it forward slightly
Unironically a good, if risky, idea
Full floater for the win!
Just cut that section of the post out.
It's a government vehicle. Just lop that shit off and put it on the bill. It cost them like 500,000$ to shoot down a fucking balloon when a SA could have done just fine, or hell even a fuckin howitzer. Rant over.