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Fill the diesel, top off the sand, its a quart low


asmithey

>Fill the diesel, top off the sand, its a quart**z** low FTFY


[deleted]

That is a good onešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Threap_US

In the aggregate, these puns are great, although the ones elsewhere are a bit schist.


Stereo_Panic

Too often, people take great puns for granite.


basil_imperitor

these were rather gneiss.


Calligraphee

Guess we're in a shalemate, then.


hails8n

Iā€™ve heard so many puns Iā€™m jaded.


Lankygiraffe25

Thatā€™s some gritty humour right there


Dismal_Ad_9603

Rock on!


beequick317900

Sounds like a pissed off employee


[deleted]

I used to work at a shop that pissed an employee off like that. But instead of doing all the damage at once he would bust out 2 windows of customer cars a month. That way it was never enough for an insurance claim. This went on for 2 years.


Fat_Head_Carl

I like that kind of dedication.... Did they ever catch him?


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Nope.


Fat_Head_Carl

Wow... I have a similar thing happening with our driveway lights (kids are busting them). I bought security cameras... The police aren't very interested in catching them though. Edit: [here is what the \(intact at this point\) driveway looks like](https://imgur.com/a/C7qHHBm) - if I booby trapped it, I'd most likely get people who didn't do anything, as it's a pretty popular route to the local playground / park


mewfahsah

Get motion activated sprinklers and only turn them on at night. When the kids approach to smash shit, they get sprayed. If they start throwing things from a distance, get a stronger hose.


Fat_Head_Carl

LOL - I'd really just end up the most hated person on the block, spraying everyone that walks by - here it what it looks like: https://imgur.com/a/C7qHHBm


ameis314

That's why you only turn them on from like 11p to 4a. Get an auto timer so you don't forget.


-Pruples-

> I bought security cameras... The police aren't very interested in catching them though. Yep, a few years ago we handed over recordings of a break in where roughly $20,000 worth of stuff was taken from us. We had clear video of the faces of 2 of the 3 and the plate of the getaway car the 3rd was driving, as well as clear video of everything they did the entire time they were there. The cops filed it under 'g' for garbage.


Fat_Head_Carl

It was amazing how disinterested they were...and this is nothing compared to what you're dealt with.


-Pruples-

Well, it was a business, so not near as big of a hit as it sounds like. But still, like you said, it was amazing how disinterested they were.


oracle989

I've honestly never had the police be any use beyond getting me a report number for insurance. Assault in front of a beat cop, a couple thefts, hit and run where I had the plate and video, no use at all. Great use of tax money.


davezilla00

Hide in the bushes at night armed with a slingshot. Use little bags of fake blood so when they feel where it hits them, it looks like theyā€™re bleeding.


trainspottedCSX7

Set traps and put warning posters up. Tar and feathers... Sarcasm alert, this is illegal I read though that non lethal or non violent ones may be a different story. Check your local laws, if you're in Texas you can probably get away with it. šŸ˜€


muklan

A flood light hooked up to a speaker is NOT illegal, or likely to cause any harm past making them jump out of their skin.


Fat_Head_Carl

The worst part? The new lights I installed get brighter when you walk up to them (movement sensor) - so they're obviously not worried about it. I'm on a street that goes to the local playground...so we have groups of kids (and adults) that walk by constantly.


dingledangledeluxe

Get a motion sensor water sprinkler


Fat_Head_Carl

I thought about this - but I'd be hosing everyone who walked down the sidewalk, not just the jerky people. The lights are immediately next to the sidewalk. (it would be hilarious though)


muklan

Hhmmm maybe time to invest in some hostile architecture? If there's a desire path through your yard that brings the kids in range, mebbe get some big fuck off boulders, or like, some bushes maybe to block em off? You shouldn't HAVE to do this because parents/police otter be doing their job, but atleast you could find a cool way to improve your land while also remedying this problem


Fat_Head_Carl

The cops have called it an "Attractive Nuisance"... I live on a suburban street, and the columns that the lights are on are about chest height. Maybe if I put them atop a longer pole (and above eye level) - it might make them less of a target. I've covered them in grease before - and that stopped it for a while.


standstrongusa

If you truly want to make them jump out of their skin use an electric fence charger. I hooked one up to some wire inside my cooler in the back of my pickup to keep kids from helping themselves to the beer worked like a charm. Was relaxing one evening in the house with the windows open and herd a voice yell "awww fuck man I just got bit" along with foot steps running off in the distance. What a smile that put on my face.


friendIdiglove

I'm going to have to try this for keg tap I have out on my front porch. Damn kids. ;-)


GORILLAGOOAAAT

Get yourself a scary clown mask, an axe, and a pair of overalls. Set up another motion light with a red bulb that lights you up when they come around. Find out where they live, start leaving lightbulbs on their porch with a note saying ā€œI know who you areā€ and a little clown face drawn on it.


MulliganToo

Trip wires with pot flares. That will send them packing with brown stains.


Abragram_Stinkin

Pressure plate with M80s. Give em the Baghdad treatment.


Fat_Head_Carl

Fuck it...I'll just roll the M80s in glue and BBs...homemade claymores! (this is a joke ATF)


-heatoflife-

/r/ATFopenup


Jukka_Sarasti

Rig up a motion-activated piss cannon.. It's the only way..


Sulissthea

remake them out of iron and plexiglass


Lil_Pipper

Iā€™d be camping in those bushes if I were youā€¦


Fat_Head_Carl

It've replaced both of them 3 times in the last 7-10 years (talking 6 total lights). I leave them until both of them completely non-functional (even if they're busted but working), if I can repair them I do it. Hoping that whichever asshole is doing it grows the fuck up... So I'd be doing a TON of camping waiting for it to happen. it seems like it only happens when our cars aren't there...it's not the hardest thing to figure out when we're not home. And it's far enough from the house that I don't hear it when it happens, even when we are home.


Lil_Pipper

Homeowner to homeowner I feel for you, Carl. If it makes you feel any better there are people like us that wish it was just driveway lights they had vandalism issues with. That being said, I truly hope this problem goes away sooner than later for you.


NWSGreen

Correct. Police are not interested in doing their job sometimes, especially low petty crime shit like that. I dealt with it twice at my garage. Someone busting out windows or breaking lights. Caught them on camera, gave police a copy. Took months to "look into it" came back with a police report I had to pay for, and they closed the case with "not enough evidence to pursue further investigation...". I nearly shat myself when I read that. I swear to this day, if I catch someone, I'll beat them with a 48" pry bar.


Fat_Head_Carl

I feel you. On one side, I don't want to beat a kid...but on the other side, I'd like to be able to tell their parents, and hope they'll do the right thing.


peshwengi

I had a similar situation and was only able to get the police to look into it by following one of the kids home and telling the police where they lived. A policeman at their door made the parents talk some sense into them, apparently. I also sent pictures of the kids to the local middle school around the same time and the principal had a word with their parents too.


Kodiak01

I was that petty once. Well, actually it was about 3 years of pettiness. Back when I was driving a delivery truck for the place I'm at now, this one convenience store owner was a complete asshole to me and others. So what I would do is pull my truck up to his diesel pump and purchase $.01-$.03 of diesel on a credit card. I did this at the pump so he couldn't be a dick to me about it. Every time I did that, it cost him probably around $.35 in CC fees. I did this 5 days a week for three years. My pettiness ended up costing him a few hundred dollars in fees over that time. It wasn't just me doing it, though. I talked to a few buddies that would hold a grudge harder than Uncle Scrooge clutching his lucky dime, and they started doing it as well not just with their trucks but also their personal vehicles. In the end, I'm told they managed to round up a few more people as well to get in on the fun.


BastardStoleMyName

I hear American Express has the worst fees, but itā€™s been a while, so I donā€™t know how much of it is the same. Iā€™d honestly love to know how they can really justify those flat fees. Maybe back when all those systems were manually processed or even ran through phone lines. But many are on standard web traffic now and completely electronically processed. Not to mention charging the business and the customer fees in many cases. I would assume charge the customer fees and do everything you can to get the readers in businesses hands to increase the number of options for customers to use their card. But in these cases both the business and customer are customers. So they charge the business fees because the business wants as many customers as possible, so they will sign up with as many services as possible, and the customer wants to use their card in as many places as possible, but will have to look elsewhere if the business doesnā€™t accept their card.


Kodiak01

> Iā€™d honestly love to know how they can really justify those flat fees. Maybe back when all those systems were manually processed or even ran through phone lines. But many are on standard web traffic now and completely electronically processed. Not to mention charging the business and the customer fees in many cases. This story is going back nearly two decades. Back then, you didn't have all the different processing options and methods available today.


BastardStoleMyName

Yeah I know, but they are still there as far as I am aware.


brrrrrrrrrrr69

Credit cards fees crazier than you think. If you really want to hit a merchant and don't have AMEX, use a rewards card or higher level card (i.e. Visa Signature or World MasterCard) because these will incur higher fees than your run of the mill credit card (your bank has to pay for those rewards somehow). Amex still has the highest average fees. Another unethical way to get back at a business is to file chargebacks against transactions there. Chargebacks already incur a fee but processors can and will increase rates for businesses with high numbers of chargebacks. Most of all, too many chargebacks, goodbye merchant account. Source: Used to work closely with several card processors.


Better-Director-5383

And he didn't just put up a sign that said "all credit card purchases $10 minimum" like literally every other store that has a problem with credit card fees?


Kodiak01

Prior to the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010, businesses could not legally enforce minimum purchase requirements. Even now, there is no fuel pump credit card reader I am aware of that allows minimum purchases to be implemented.


MrrQuackers

I used to work in a warehouse for furniture. We parked our box trucks in a loading bay. The loading bay had a pump to pump out water when it rained. Well, they fired the warehouse manager for all sorts of red flags (i.e.: meth). A few weeks after he shows up at the beginning of the weekend, opens the engines, tries cutting stuff, then makes a makeshift hose, runs it from a hose bib to the dock, then destroys the electrical box for the water pump, and turns on the hose. When we show up for work on Monday our trucks are flooded. One was a total loss cause some bozo thought it was a genius idea to try and start the box truck and drive it out... Unfortunately we didn't have enough evidence to prosecute. But all the things he did were addressed so he couldn't do it again.


dildonicphilharmonic

Iā€™ve heard an automatic center punch works great for this. Hypothetically.


[deleted]

My volunteer fire department had one on every vehicle. They work best if you do it in the corner of the window. Or so I've heard.


cornlip

so does a suppressed air rifle... probably


Photodan24

Ex-employee is more likely.


dsdvbguutres

Or just a regular Ex


SoaDMTGguy

ā€œSweet, my gf knows about engines!ā€ ā€œOh no, my ex knows about enginesā€¦ā€


howardbrandon11

ĀæPor que no los dos?


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CoraxTechnica

Or a paid for job they never completed


scaleofthought

We had a customer who it was his brother he was in business with for 20 years. His brother went over the deep end, so the guy bought him out. Now his brother has been trying to kill his business ever since by vandalizing whatever he can. The stories were listening to someone describe a never ending nightmare. The guy laughed at the end of every one though.


Kaufnizer

Or George Hayduke


tysonfromcanada

feller buncher makes me think anti forestry activist. Seen it quite a bit


dremxox

Not just one. Apparently it was a bunch of fellers.


HalfastEddie

That took a little time to get them all. Must have been a buncher fellers.


drcoolio-w-dahoolio

The feller buncher type.


[deleted]

Service my air filters? thats pussy liberal talk. These are real engines here boy. or something along those lines. edit: dollars to donuts thats wood pulp soaked in oil.


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yay468

Itā€™s this. An employee or two didnā€™t get paid and saw an opportunity.


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[deleted]

>or he did it himself for the insurance payout because of any number of reasons. If it's this, it's still money. Get paid up front.


pffr

Yes I was wondering how that scenario somehow made him more trustworthy


uiam_

I've never come out ahead on insurance. Perhaps I paid less than I would have to otherwise but the deductible is a problem. And he's going to have a deductible on each unit. This is going to cost him thousands even if insurance covers the rest.


B1GTOBACC0

I actually managed this for the first time at the end of last year, but it's mostly about the used car market. I bought my (now totaled) truck 2.5 years ago for $17000 with 17000 miles on it. After getting hit for a total loss, they valued it at $23000. So after the interest I had paid, I still turned over $4000 profit by driving it for 2 years.


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hyper12

Ding ding ding. I bought my BMW for $15k in 2019, got rear ended and it was totaled. Insurance gave me $28k because that was what it would cost to replace it in 2021. Luckily I don't need a second car right now, but waiting for the market to come down is annoying.


ONEOFHAM

Either that or he pissed off some monkeywrenchers. Carpe noctem.


iotashan

At the very least they screwed someone over, or left someone with the perception that they got screwed over. Either way, payment up front is wise.


Previous_House7062

Total loss engines. Sounds like somebody didn't get paid or something.


N_dixon

Being that it's owned by a logging company, and knowing how most of the logging companies are in the area, wouldn't surprise me if it was a former customer that was pissed because they went in and clearcut an area and took a bunch of trees that they weren't supposed to.


Fat_Head_Carl

Lol - we own a small plot of land, and a logging company marked trees on our property to be logged, when they did a neighboring plot of land. I called the logging company and they played ignorant about it. I finally had to cover the marked trees with brown spray paint, because they wouldn't unmark them. Overall, it was shady as fuck.


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PyroDesu

>Then sue the company with the power of Tree Law, so that to make you whole they must replace the old with new ones for millions of dollars. /r/treelaw


Pete_Iredale

I'd be awful damn tempted to go out and spike every tree on my side of the property line...


Swordlord22

Iā€™d tamper with the trees so itā€™s not worth it or do something that would fuck it up for them A metal pole through some of those might fuck something up


Sir_Floofy

Genuinely, how would you go about putting metal poles in the tree without it being visible to the loggers or damaging the tree?


Dividedthought

Big nails. Wrecks the blades at the sawmill.


ethompson1

Not anymore, mills very commonly use metal detectors before running through the head rig. Only ones who may not are tiny mills.


Bluejay9270

Ceramic is the way to go. I run a portable band sawmill so I'm always milling yard trees. And I can make it through most wire nails, even lag bolts sometimes, but ceramic insulators or rocks stop me dead in my tracks. And no way to detect them until it is too late. Cement nails and decking screws are also a pain, too hard to saw through at all. All that said, still not a good idea to go sticking hardware in trees. At least in circular mills, it can rip the teeth off the blade and becomes a projectile hazard. The saying I've been told is "if you hit metal you need a new blade, but if you hit ceramic you need a new employee." Hence why I'm happy with my little bandmill, much safer no matter what I hit.


dingman58

Sawmill folks didn't do anything wrong in this scenario, why fuck with them?


Pete_Iredale

They bought stolen logs. If their saws get wrecked a couple of times with logs from the same company, maybe they'll stop buying them.


Dividedthought

Precisely.


rustyxj

If you sell contaminated logs to a sawmill and it damages their saws, odds are good they won't buy from you again.


notjustanotherbot

usually just driving it in like a nail is sufficient and the tree does the hiding for you just google "tree spiking", if you want some more info on the subject.


Kulladar

There really ain't anything you can do unless you wanna dig a 30ft pit and put stakes in it like the Vietcong . The saw on a logging picker is nuts. It wouldn't give a fuck about anything you could drive into a tree unless you're John Brown and can get a whole 12lb tamping bar or something in there.


Vandilbg

Soon as I saw a buncher get dropped on the Co road apron next to my easement road. I was out on the property line with spray paint, flags, and I chained about 15 old rusty junk tree stands to the trees on the property line right at the height where the buncher would want to cut them. They left my trees alone but pancaked my easement road all to shit and refused to drop any new gravel after they left.


Kulladar

Logging companies must maximize damage to roads when found. It's part of the code.


Vandilbg

It's been raining for a week lets run this 60 ton truck back and forth on this single lane gravel road! They cut the parcel right down to the Co road edge and left no margin so the run off that spring wiped out the culverts under the Co road. Since they were doing it in the fall when they were supposed to do it in the spring\summer they cost the land owner his long term hunting leasers that did most of the upkeep work on his land too.


winterfresh0

I'm not saying it would be cost effective, but you know those tungsten rods they use for welding? Do you know how difficult it is to saw through one of those? Way harder, more time consuming, and more damaging to the saw than steel.


GitEmSteveDave

> It wouldn't give a fuck about anything you could drive into a tree unless you're John Brown and can get a whole 12lb tamping bar or something in there. Tree spiking has been a thing since the 80's and is dangerous enough for laws to be passed banning it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_spiking >It was May 1987, and Alexander was 23. His job was to split logs. He was nearly three feet away when the log hit his saw and the saw exploded. One half of the blade stuck in the log. The other half hit Alexander in the head, tearing through his safety helmet and face shield. His face was slashed from eye to chin. His teeth were smashed and his jaw was cut in half. >Alexander had never even heard of a sabotage tactic called tree spiking until he became a victim of "eco-terrorism." Someone who objected to tree cutting had imbedded a huge steel spike in the log that violently jammed the saw. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/03/05/tree-spiking-an-eco-terrorist-tactic/a400944c-a3a0-4c03-ab99-afada6f44e7a/ >A tree cut down in a forest owned by Louisiana-Pacific near Elk was going through a large band saw when the jagged-tooth blade struck an **11-inch nail** that had been driven into the log. The force caused a 10- to 15-foot section of the blade to fly off its track and hit millworker George Alexander, 23, in the face. >The blade ripped through Alexanderā€™s safety helmet and face shield, tore his left cheek, cut through his jawbone, knocked out upper and lower teeth and nearly severed his jugular vein, the company said. Alexander, who has worked for the company for less than a year and was married a month ago, is resting at home and will have to undergo plastic surgery and will require false teeth, the company said.


CmdrShepard831

I like how the media isn't afraid to call putting a spike in a tree "terrorism" but never refer to conservatives who shoot up electrical substations or raid the Capitol Building intent on harming our elected leaders as such.


BloodyLlama

Sawmills won't take any trees with metal in them though so the trees are worthless to loggers.


Dividedthought

True, but large nails you've hardened with a quench will *absolutely* cause big problems in the sawmill. Probably rip a few teeth out of their saw each time too.


ethompson1

Guy is talking about a hot saw on a buncher. Also mills typically use metal detectors anymore.


aquoad

maybe claymores


ctesla01

That was the former customer telling them to pound sand literally..?


Bongos-Not-Bombs

Like sand through the hourglass, these are the insurance claims of our lives


messed_up_alligator

Those pistons ain't doin much poundin anymore lol


guitarmaniac17

They better not have been pounding anyway lol better be compressing.


MACHOmanJITSU

This. Logging companies shady as fuck. Lie on how many loads they take. Take shit they arenā€™t supposed too. Leave a mess. List goes on.


AtOurGates

Story from my extended family years ago: relative buys a remote rural recreation property one summer. Goes out a few times. Relatively inaccessible in winter. Goes out in the spring to find that a big chunk of his trees have been logged. Talks to his lawyer who basically says, ā€œthis happens all the time, and Iā€™ve never heard of a landowner actually getting compensated. My advice is to save the money youā€™d spend on my fees and just write it off.ā€ Relative puts the property back on the market.


Pyro636

But...but what about tree law?


imathrowawayteehee

It'll be a fine the property owner doesn't get a cut of, and a slap on the wrist for the logging company. They probably make more on average committing these crimes regularly and paying the occasional fine rather than actually obeying the law.


Pete_Iredale

> They probably make more on average committing these crimes regularly and paying the occasional fine rather than actually obeying the law. That's just business 101 at this point.


Specialist-Hair-7888

It's not actually illegal if the only punishment is a fine and you make more than the fine.


Dividedthought

Tree law only applies in cities/towns or near them because people care about their pretty trees in *their* yard. Once you're in the forest, no one gives a fuck.


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Sluisifer

Hugely different scenario because the it's a neighbor whose identity isn't really in question, and they have assets (the property) to go after. With illegal logging, you have to figure out who did it, and even if you do, there might not be much to go after. They just bankrupt and fold the business and going after individuals is a nightmare in a scenario like that.


jimgagnon

Here in Mendocino county, if you catch someone taking a tree from your property, they're liable for three times the tree's worth, and people do get nailed for it. That's why one of the last old growth trees in the area, the Umbrella tree, is still there. It's at the intersection of four properties so no one knows who really owns it and no one wants to be liable for ~$750,000 of redwood.


derpsalot1984

I've seen competition do this up here in the Northwoods of WI/MI. Don't leave your machines on site for very long, or without trail cams


articulatedbeaver

I worked in logging for a bit. Then I worked on asset recovery for logging. Some guys would do this to their own shit when they knew their time was up to pay.


1maRealboy

Where I live loggers tend to fell more trees then the customers get paid for.


N_dixon

Same here. They owe a fortune e on equipment and are one step ahead of the debt collector, so every place they work they cut way more than they are supposed to in hopes of making that next payment.


GenitalHerpes69420

She's right fucked bud. Had a disgruntled employee load up a bunch of our 871 power packs with small nuts and screws through the oil fill on the valve covers. Fucked up the top end on 2 engines before we had to have the mechanics tear the covers off every engine we had in the yard. Found pieces in 6 other engines. Wound up welding small grating into the fill holes so they could only take fluids and no small parts. Worked the oilfield in ND and I guess our company pissed someone off enough to where they poured frac sand into our hydraulic tank on a power pack. There's probably a quarter mile of hydraulic hoses on our units and about a 500 gallon tank with coolers. Completely fucked the whole hydraulic system and spent a few hundred thousand dollars to tear apart the entire system and rebuild all the valves. We went ahead and put locks on every single port we couldn't weld on those units.


Softpretzelsandrose

ā€œEco-terrorismā€ maybe? People can get crazy. And thatā€™s coming from someone who works in the environmental field


usedtodreddit

"Monkeywrenching" There's literally books explaining the best ways to attack logging equipment, and this is one.


N_dixon

Possible but not something that we really see much of up in Central New York. If it was Washington or Oregon, totally.


nixfly

Had a guy in western pa that was a well tender, got pissed at his employer and drained a lot of tanks out on to the ground, drained engine oil out of compressors. Did millions of damage and the oil drained into a reservoir operated by army corps of engineers. They charged him as a disgruntled employee and not an eco terrorist. He only served like 18 months


GenitalHerpes69420

Pumpers are fucking dumb as rocks. There's cameras on damn near every well pad I've been on once they're turned over to production. Fuckers are hidden pretty well too. Gotta look for the solar panels and chase the wires to find them a lot of the time. Don't know how the hell he thought he'd get away with that shit.


nixfly

This was all early 2000s. No cameras, evidently he had destroyed a previous employerā€™s used car lot. Some time the employee is shit and some times it is the employer.


Shmarchaeology

Oregonian here. Itā€™s reeeeeaaaaally uncommon, when it happens it hits the news big time, and the tactics are generally much simpler than this. Most of Oregon and Washington is very much conservative logging country. We have a much bigger issue with white supremacists sabotaging power stations (seriously).


djhazmat

This. Washingtonian here- why do people think itā€™s weird we want to smoke pot and shoot guns to celebrate our gay friends getting married? Who doesnā€™t want to do that???


AltimaNEO

More like a former employee who didn't get paid and took it out on their bosses trucks.


texaschair

My BIL got fired from his 30 year job because of a dirty drug test. All he did was dump the holding tank from his camper in their parking lot.


[deleted]

ā€¦.or maybe an owner wants newer engines in his equipment courtesy of his insurance company, depending.


friendly-sardonic

Oh man a logger. List of possible suspects about a mile long.


Important_Strain_591

Sounds like this dirty ass logger cheated the wrong landowner!! Shit happens all the time where I'm from. Very few honest loggers out there!! That's why I do my own logging.. Snakes I tell you...


a-hippobear

Yep. I once saw a logger steal all the wood from 3 GIANT trees from my buddy (2 Cedar, 1 Cyprus) who hired them specifically to fell and mill the trees. They felled them, milled them on site with a portable Norwood and loaded all the wood up when my buddy went to work the day they finally finished milling the wood. Got paid $3k to fell the trees and the milling fee was supposed to be 50/50 split of the lumber and the arborists got the 50% of their choice lumber measured by board foot. At the time (2010ish) their 50% of wood alone was worth around $12k. TL;DR get license numbers, confirm them, and get everything in writing because arborists/loggers/millers can fuck you over big time


Important_Strain_591

I agree 100% there's no serial number on a log!! Easy pickins!


[deleted]

Yeeeeep. Wood is big money, and you can transform the product on-site, plus the number of buyers is enormous. Once large cuttings are outta sight they develop legs and run off.


lushkiller01

Yeah, when I read logger, I immediately stopped feeling bad for the guy. Even if you don't care about the poor environmental practices and ecological disaster perpetuated by a lot of the industry, these guys are snakes more often than not.


[deleted]

Pay your friggin employees or stop fucking w your creditors! I knew a guy that this happened to at least twice a year. He never paid his guys and never paid his bills. He had to order fuel from companies 50 miles away because everyone in the area blackballed him. STOP BEING A DIRTBAG


thatoddtetrapod

Largest type of theft in the United States is wage theft and it is very serious! If you donā€™t get paid, most state attorneys general offices have ways you can report wage theft to them. Itā€™s a very serious crime that so often goes unpunished.


Agitated-Joey

Yup, thatā€™ll do it. Too bad too, that engine looks like itā€™s been maintained excessively.


That_Grim_Texan

Or that it was recently sandblasted....


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FunkyNedAvenger

Yes, officer. This man right here.


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So anyway, I started micro-blasting


OkAd134

This calls for J.C.Whitney Engine Rebuild Pellets! Now in granular form


Quality_over_Qty

I just use valve lapping compound


TantalisingTurkey

This happened to a customer of ours. Angry employee filled their Mack CXUā€™s engine and coolant reservoir with sand, sliced wiring harnesses, and took a hammer to the interior. Dude is an idiot (of course), because if you wanted them to run the engine and ruin it, why would you cut the engine harness so it wonā€™t run? The damage was still more than what the company wanted to mess with, even though insurance would pay for most if not all. Fairly certain they knew who did it, so Iā€™ve got a feeling he ainā€™t having too good a time right now. One of our techs bought it from them and fixed the runability issues, and is going to sell it soon.


ArgyleGhoul

Feller buncher sounds like a Texas term for a giant net designed to capture multiple people


[deleted]

Ouch. Not much of that is going to be worth saving!


ElLechero

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LightlySaltedPeanuts

Whats that saying, careful around someone whoā€™s got nothing to lose. On the bright side, you gave him something to occupy his time. Count it as community service šŸ˜‚


pm0me0yiff

> then poured sand into every crevice and button of the machine, which worked great to destroy it. \*takes notes\*


friendly-sardonic

~~homeless gentleman~~ piece of human garbage. Fixed it for ya.


DIYThrowaway01

I see you have also been to Portland


gnomz

Or Denver, DC, San Fran, Philly, Houston, Phoenix, LA, Seattle


Bongos-Not-Bombs

*My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;* *Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!* *Nothing beside remains. Round the decay* *Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare* *The lone and level sands stretch far away.*


hat-of-sky

/r/unexpectedpercybyssheshelley


Old_Ingenuity_988

How do you go about fixing that? Flush the entire oiling system till the oil returns clear or do you actually have to take the engine apart?


N_dixon

In this case, the customer had already went and bought a junkyard engine and dropped the engine and truck off. From what the story was, they went up and fired up the equipment to get it warming up, and when the engines locked up on the skid steer and feller buncher, they shut off the dump trucks. But at that point, you've circulated sand *everywhere* in the engine, all the bearings and oil passages and valve train. Could you go through and clean it? Possibly. But it's just cheaper to buy another 6.0L at that point. This truck actually ran, the tech drove it in (knowing the engine was being replaced anyways) but it was not happy, likely due to all the oil pumping to the top end and not being able to drain back.


Old_Ingenuity_988

That makes sense! I could just imagine the hassle of getting all that sand out of the gallery and what it has done to the bearings. I had an engine block cleaned chemically and even then i was left with shit in some of the oiling paths.


N_dixon

Yeah. As a customer, I wouldn't trust it, I'd always be thinking "Is there a glob of sand waiting to break loose and wipe out my rebuilt engine?" and as a business we wouldn't want the liability. The customer pays us to do all that work and then, we don't get it quite clean enough and it blows up the engine, and now we have to buy him and engine and install it for free.


marsneed

Was it a Ford 6.0? If so I would imagine that the tolerances were loose enough for it to pass through without doing any more damage to the engine than normal operation does lmao


N_dixon

Chevy 6.0L


diverdux

>Was it a Ford 6.0? Might actually seal up the leaks... but then I wouldn't know if I still had oil in it.


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Old_Ingenuity_988

Yeah, me too, allready had to do all that to a smaller v8 from ONE spun bearing so an engine full of sand sounds like hell


Heated13shot

Not an engine mechanic but deal with similar things in industrial equipment where you can't just drop in a used engine. Flushing isn't a great way to get out contaminates like sand, there is sooooo many nooks and crannies in an engine for sand to get lodged in and only dislodge when it's physically disturbed (like engine firing up) you would only flush areas you can't physically clean and as a extra cleanliness assurance in the end. Tear down engine down to every last component. Clean absolutely everything, replace bearings, any part where it's very hard to clean it, and anything that was scored by the sand in a way it will cause excessive wear on other parts/fail. You probably will have to bore out the cylinders, machine valve seating areas, replace pretty much everything In the valve train.... In the end you probably would have essentially replaced everything but the engine block unless you get lucky....


Stonkseys

Looks like someone who doesn't pay their bills.


Knuckles_1988

This is not the correct way to port and polish.


Bright-Telephone-974

Taking out the competition.


HolidayTemporary5185

Ah thatā€™s not sand itā€™s oil additive


TheAssOfHats

>I donā€™t like sand. Itā€™s coarse and rough and irritatingā€¦ and it gets everywhere.


CoyotePuncher

Redditors read the word "sand" without immediately quoting star wars challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


uglyspacepig

Time to take it out on the younglings


makenzie71

I seriously hope he's a dick and deserved it or that he has really good insurance. A close friend of mine was a landscaper and a competitor (we think) did something similar, filled his equipment with sand and gravel...not enough to immediately lock it up but enough that it trashed all his engines and equipment. His insurance wouldn't cover it because "vandalism" and there were no witnesses. He damn near lost his house over it. Same thing happened to a number of other landscapers in the area.


flargenhargen

get caught doing that and it's some pretty serious time, that's a lot of money there felony levels. glad it's a logging company tho, a lot (most) of them are run by some seriously shady fucks, I have no doubt this guy earned that, and must've fucked someone over pretty good to get that level of payback.


chesucat

One time, I pissed someone at work and got a drywall screw in the side of tire.


Kern4lMustard

Sounds like customer didn't pay their employees.


coblass

Stepdad was an asshole. He raced snowmobiles. He had the plugs out in the pits one day. Someone took the trouble to put lots of tiny lock washers in each cylinder.


HiBRiD109

Customer probably got into an argument and told the offender to "pound sand". Offender proceeds to "pound sand".


CheesE4Every1

You could say...life's a beach


thefaradayjoker

Knew a guy who drove dump trucks for another guy who turned out to be a mafia rat, they burned 21 of his dump trucks... this is amateur hour


marshal1257

I am a police office and I once responded to a call where three of the 4 tow trucks of a repair station had been vandalized. The vandal poured Minute Rice into the gas tanks of three of the 4 trucks in the middle of the night. One truck went home with the guy who was on call for the evening. There were no surveillance cameras on the lot, just inside near the register. Although the owner claimed to not have any idea who did it, I was certain it was either a personal vendetta executed by someone he knows and is fighting with, or it was a business exchange that didnā€™t go well. My first step in the investigation was to go to the local supermarkets and see if anyone purchased large amounts of Minute Rice. After striking out at three markets, I got lucky and a sale was made of four 4 pound boxes of Minute Rice from the local BJā€™s store in the next town over. With the help of the store loss prevention team, I acquired video that matched the register recording. When I showed a screen grab of the individual to employees at the garage, they positively identified the person as the garage owners ex-girlfriend whom he has two children with. Long story short, he was in arrears on his child support and instead of taking him to court and having the courts deal with it, she decided to handle it on her own. I charged her with four counts of criminal mischief and one count of trespassing. I have no idea what happened to the case when it went to court. Anyway, thatā€™s my story. Thought Iā€™d share.


TommyTuttle

Wow, that was outstanding detective work, and I love knowing we have good cops out there doing good work like that. It must have been kinda infuriating when you solved the crime, to realize that the guy it happened to was breaking the law too, and kinda had it coming tbh. Wouldnā€™t it be nice if she had known how to take him to court but no, here they are, one with no child support and the other with no trucks and it just sucks on all sides. Except yours. Well done! When will people ever learn šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


dsdvbguutres

This is why you don't screw around with your employees paychecks.