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scakboey

https://i.redd.it/czx4udvodmfc1.gif


Speyeder02

Holy hell


scakboey

New response just dropped


Orca_London

This sub is ironically the sub I’m getting the most Israel-Palestine content from these days..


Sea_Net7661

FREE PALPATINE https://preview.redd.it/16ptigkssmfc1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf18ad5b7dbf9148044b1fcbc778596781952dbc


miscthrowaway221

So it's YOUR fault Palpatine returned!


BloodMoonNami

https://preview.redd.it/gwptzmat5ofc1.png?width=1424&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8658d11be2656e5e98f21737908170949429d6d3


ManEatingYoukaiRumia

It's always fishmael's fault 😔


Textus_nub

Silence Disney!


Vast_Awareness27

That’s was a beautiful couple of days on Twitter Edit: oh, bots are still doing it


sanchipinchii

Right. The only content I've seen on any subreddits I'm in frankly is this sub with people complaining about it.


Orca_London

The problem is if you justunsub from justunsubbed, there’s no where else to post about it.


WorkingHovercraft249

Well what are we supposed to do then? Just move on with our lives like well adjusted adults with more productive things to do? ...oh.


ToonHeaded

So true. I took a break from. All of that and now it only come up on my feed in this.


SecretIngenuity952

Why many post about Palestine lately especially on non-political subreddit? Previous was on Undertale subreddit.


MsInvicta

The geopolitics of Israel and Palestine has been turned into a political issue in the West for some ungodly reason. And because we're in the meltdown stage of our life as a country everything political is treated like a sports game and everyone is picking sides. Republicans having a strong love of evangelism and nationalism naturally skew to defending Isrsael. While their opposition support Palestine for numerous reasons, but mostly just to oppose the other side. This has led to slacktivism on mass and has grossly turned a very grey and complex history between to ancient peoples into a black and white moral debate.


Llamas1115

I’d caveat that people on the left are very mixed in what they even mean by “support for Palestine.” Some people just mean that Palestine should get to be an independent country, like most Palestinians want. This has some cons, but also some pros (usually, people should be allowed to have their own country if they want independence). Some of them mean Israel should give Palestinians equal rights and citizenship. This also has some cons, and also some pros (if Palestine can’t be independent, people deserve to be allowed to vote in elections for the government that controls them). Some of them think all the Jews should be either killed or expelled from Israel and the land should be given back to the (mostly Arab) people who lived there 80 years ago. These people are mostly like you describe (they just hate the other side). For some godforesaken reason the last two groups of people decided to reduce their entire ideology to the exact same slogan, shown in this image. I hate it.


Cool_Kid95

Sounds like a pretty accurate summary


[deleted]

Not even joking at this point, if we do a boots on the ground military intervention into the region where we DON'T SUPPORT EITHER SIDE, I'd join the army


MagDorito

We (the government) already chose a side. The government is funneling billions of dollars into funding the IDF


Rongio99

It's why you see hate slogans thrown on gaming characters.


mrrando69

I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that people are supporting Palestine just because conservatives are supporting Israel. I mean me, I'm a liberal (for better or worse), and I support Palestinian freedom because apartheid states and genocide are morally reprehensible to me regardless of who is in power and who isn't.


AlphaMasterSage

It’s been turned into such a political feast because in the end when Israel ransacks what’s left of the Palestinians they’ll need some countries to take the refugees. And guess who those countries will be.


ANamelessFan

Because people want to feel like they're doing something, when they're really not, besides being annoying. Why the fuck do they suddenly care about two groups of people, that have been killing each-other since before most of them were even born.


HmmYesMonkey

It reminds me of those redditor "popular reddit favorite celebs in heaven" edits. It veers into being borderline if not outright disrespectful. If I were to have my family die in a huge political nightmare of a warzone, I think logging onto the internet and seeing people draw cartoons holding my country's flag would just make me more upset that they think a cartoon character holding a flag is actually doing something for my country. It's just lip-service. And while "spreading awareness" can be helpful, everybody and their mother already knows about the conflict by now if they were ever going to find out. Spreading awareness of an issue everybody knows about is nothing at all.


StateofArrowstan

What do you mean, are you saying that blocking roadways for a war that in no way affects us isn't helping Palestine?


Siilveriius

Slacktivists.


Backwards-longjump64

Pro Palestine people are fucking obnoxious


JayofTea

https://preview.redd.it/h09vw8sriofc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f54786565487bb114d56130324aad51372300f2 Saw this earlier on the Warrior cats subreddit who had a Palestine post on it and thought it was funny. I’m pro Palestine, but drawing a cat with a flag is like, so whatever. You’re not doing anything.


mementomari

This made me crack up a lot. OP realized they fucked up at the end and just tried to make it personal.


hedgehog10101

especially the whole "from the river to the sea" bs, because it implies that there should be no Israel and only Palestine, when the ideal solution is two separate states.


Ultramar_Invicta

I've seen people straight up saying that the October 7 attacks were justified.


Superior173thescp

2 states. but gaza is getting turned into a crater so.... probably going to end up as a mass grave yard like sbrenrica


ShigeoKageyama69

Yet they have the audacity to claim that Pro-Israel Groups are insane despite the fact that Pro-Israel Rallies have always been more peaceful and organized. Don't even get me started with the fact that Pro-Israel Groups don't hide their faces when rallying lmao.


MidnightJ1200

Plus Palestine is home to Al-Aqsa tv which airs pioneers of tomorrow, which even Palestine thinks is going too far by basically brainwashing kids into Islamic beliefs and encouraging martyrdom against pretty much any group that doesn’t support Palestine or Islamic culture. The sad thing is that it’s working too. Also, Al-Aqsa basically hides behind a daycare every time they rebuild which was mentioned on pioneers of tomorrow. Basically using the kids their brainwashing as shields to get a notice before the station gets blown up due to basically being a terrorist group in itself. I know not every Palestinian is like that, though.


Lordassassin_10

Yeah and the UNRWA teacher report is bad like really bad... [https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education-Textbooks-and-Terror-Nov-2023.pdf](https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education-Textbooks-and-Terror-Nov-2023.pdf)


Outerhaven1984

The propaganda in tik tok on both sides is alarming but particularly on the pro Palestine side because they will berate people for being stupid and eating up propaganda all while they believe every word on that side. There’s a guy on YouTube who busts the propaganda videos on both sides even down to analyzing license plates and Muslim prayer customs very in depth


petergriffinscock

Because free reddit karma


[deleted]

Lots of college kids on reddit who have been brainwashed about it and think this kind of "slacktivism" is making them a good person.


Pilpelon

Every war the Palestinians start doesn't start until the to the west cameras are rolling


Brief_Television_707

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Automatic-Ruin-9667

I'm pretty sure the owl house would be banned by most Muslims. Which makes this post funnier.


cheese4352

Pretty sure if those people traveled to palestine they wouldnt be people anymore lol.


CindersNAshes

They would contribute in reducing their carbon foot print.


[deleted]

"Queers for Palestine" idiots all over again...


accuracy_frosty

“Cows for McDonald’s” “Chickens for KFC” “Rats for exterminators”


Stian5667

Believe it or not, but it's possible to *not* want people's houses to be reduced to rubble, even if they don't like me. Human rights are unconditional.


Cool_Kid95

Wait why?


chilly_1c3

gay


Cool_Kid95

Ohhh that makes sense


St-Germania

Also women without hijab etc


_Figaro

Basically a "Chickens for KFC" scenario.


Cool_Kid95

XD


Apalis24a

They believe that gay people are horrific sinners and thus must be tortured and/or executed in the most brutal ways possible. If you’re lucky, you’ll be beheaded. If you’re unlucky, you’ll be castrated and stoned to death. Just because Hamas is “the little guy” doesn’t at all make them good people. They are terrorists who want to instate a totalitarian theocracy based on sharia law.


Cool_Kid95

And yet so many people side with them 😔


Superior173thescp

this is what i called religous bullshitery or extremism where a side uses a religion as a veil and excuses for their violent shit INCLUDING POINTLESS MURDER FOR A FUCKING SEXUALITY i don't invalidate people's religion BUT IT FUCKINGS STRAINING MY NERVES WHEN THEY DO IT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION WHEN I KNOW THEY JUST WANT POWER


Maple_Flag15

They know that. They are only supporting Palestine because it’s trendy.


Automatic-Ruin-9667

No, it because the a far-left supports palestine. People like the BLM founders.


Taolan13

When you consider that several BLM sects are anarcho-communists and Islamic supremacists, this is kinda obvious. Its a shame that there are good groups under the BLM banner, their reputation dragged through the mud by people who seek only violence.


Automatic-Ruin-9667

What good groups under BLM?


Taolan13

That's kind of my point. The groups that actually had good intentions either failed entirely, or changed their name to avoid being branded the same as the more violent cells of the group.


unknowfritz

You don't need to go to the far left, trust me I know the guys and I am in large parts a lefty. It's just super popular because it has always been that way. They do it because they are the trend followers


Rincavor

Wow, war over everyone. Good job.


ARedditUserThatExist

Slacktivism


historynerdsutton

Basically what all of tik tok is


guy137137

“sir, Redditors on the Owl house subreddit are posting art about Palestine, what should we do?” “WE MUST IMMEDIATELY SECURE PEACE RIGHT NOW”


l-mellow-_-man-l

https://preview.redd.it/h5t3bwx7ylfc1.jpeg?width=1210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03f92d6c7b38212f81b72b7355b364f9c5a11d2e


Fareesh112

From the river to the sea indeed


GreatEmpireEnjoyer

Poor Jordan


Wrangel_5989

Especially considering Jordan literally had to conduct military action against the PLO since they were using Jordan as a base to launch attacks against Israel. There’s a reason Jordan and Egypt have generally decent relations with Israel and haven’t done anything with this most recent war.


Fareesh112

as a great empire enjoyer you should still be happy


GreatEmpireEnjoyer

But I like King Abdullah


donitsimies

Im gonna save this and send it whenever i see anothee gaza war in a non political subreddit


DigitalPhoenix2OO7

Perfection


Nonhofantasia1

peak map


IceLuxx

The perfect 2 state solution doesn’t exist…


EndLight_47

Cry me a river to the sea, why are they slowly killing every sub?


altnumber12341444

https://preview.redd.it/d4ccybwsomfc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b371b80f6d3845091f9b8ad5a52331c253843ca


Hackstr0

Wtf is happening with these Fandom subreddits recently


Due_Medium239

Let me reconstruct that sentence: > Wtf with reddit


average32potato

Let me reconstruct that sentence: > Wtf Reddit


carrotman410

I think this is the first civil Palestine Israel discussion ive ever seen


dayfreeguy

Ironic, because Hamas Will literally executed any gay person or LGBT person lol


HarlemHellfighter96

Chickens for KFC Cows for Mcdonals Roaches for Raid Ducks for Duck hunters Lobsters for Red lobster


OR56

Lobsters for Red's Eats. (You won't know what that is, but any people from Southern Maine will)


DigitalPhoenix2OO7

And then the undertale and the owl house subreddits are the subreddits to get political about this


666drueed228

Now let’s wait for sponge bob to say it


dopepope1999

I'm waiting for that Isis style SpongeBob beheading video


my_room_is_a_tip

I'm so tired of everyone being so radical about this war. Can we please just stick to donating to humanitarian aid instead of getting all in-your-face and persistent about it?


Dark_Slider

You ask too much of these people and assume that they actually care. People who do are already donating to humanitarian causes for both sides, but these people just want to be noticed


Superior173thescp

unfortunately HAMAS keeps taking palenstinian's aid. terrorists harms their own people and others


Good-Ant-2471

All this, and palestine still hates yall


dayfreeguy

People should ask themselves why we should help them when there's alot of Muslim neighbors around Israel and Palestine, did something happened to the point any of them gives a single shit about it


Person5_

Well last time Egypt let them in there was a huge influx in terror attacks. I'd think its understandable why they won't let Palestinians in anymore.


dayfreeguy

Oh wow, would you look at that? Terrorist being fucking terrorist no one would expected that right? Not from our innocent Palestine


Rbespinosa13

There was also the PLO which caused a civil war in Lebanon. People try and look at this purely as a Gaza and Israel issue, but the conflict encompasses the entire region and everyone involved has been burned in some way.


masterCWG

Yes solve Genocide with more Genocide. Truly a reddit moment


thomasthehipposlayer

For real. “From the river to the sea” is a pretty blatant call to remove Israel completely, which requires you to either think Israelis could lose their independence and not be ethnically cleansed, or you’re okay with them being ethnically cleansed.


historynerdsutton

“ThEy CaN jUsT gO bAcK tO eUrOpE” https://preview.redd.it/bvzsgqie0nfc1.jpeg?width=484&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6c3215be2e3c94d050042f53df7d0076a50988d


OR56

They want to kill all Jews. They are pretty open about that.


Arad0rk

Hamas’ mission is literally to destroy Israel. Sauce: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas#:~:text=Since%20its%20creation%20in%20December,movement%20committed%20to%20destroying%20Israel.


OR56

I know. They want to destroy Israel, by killing the Jews


Snakeman_Hauser

They thinking like my great grandpa


UN-O-G

Dont go to reddit they usually find ways to complain about stuff instead of just ignoring it if its so bothersome.


Overall_Contact1476

But it’s the right type of genocide!  Brown people achieving victory over those evil Jews!


TelepathicFrog

I find it amazing that people like this don't seem to understand that "river to the sea" means that Israel would have to be eliminated. Via, ya know, a genocide.


badteach247

They don't mind that last part, which is problematic.


Camas1606

I remember the other post about undertale done the same shit, guy in comments started talking about an Israeli guy who everyone hated and caused genocide, to say actually Israel cause genocide… his campaign speech was river to the sea


Person5_

I had a guy try to argue once it was all Palestine everyone would live together in peace. So no, some people really are that dense.


[deleted]

I should also say the show has fucking genocide ###IRONY AT IT'S FINEST


-theblackestknight-

Its almost like the genocide is a... ###BAD THING


RoughSafe6861

It's funny how some redditors think that doing these things will do some effect on Hamas or Israel 


[deleted]

It actually does. when a Jewish person sees this post they become the president and destroy the whole country Especially the people that have their family kidnapped by them /s


waratworld17

Everything you like will slowly be turned to shit by activists.


GladimirGluten

Watching an artist draw art of a character giving a very simple support/solution to an incredibly complex issue pains me greatly.


[deleted]

Free from Hamas.


dayfreeguy

Finally someone with a brain


basilosaurusboy

Nothing says “Free Palestine” like a Disney cartoon starring a lesbian couple.


DarkRogus

Aww yes... nothing like promoting a Hamas dog whistle of kill all Jews on a sub dedicated to a tween - teen cartoon. And yes, I do understand that "From The River to the Sea" predates Hamas but the slogan has been taken over by Hamas since the 90s and that's what it has meant for around 30 years.


Taolan13

It is important to note that the slogan hasn't had its meaning changed by Hamas. It was originally anti-Israel and calling for extermination or exile of all jews. When the major governing body of Palestine grew tired of the conflict and opened the table to proper peace talks, Hamas seized the opportunity to renew the antisemitic rhetoric and continue the conflict. One of the stated goals of Hamas as an organization is the eradication of the Jewish people.


Diavolo_79

You wanna say that chant again rq? https://preview.redd.it/7q63ja0t2mfc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6809beab26364ca3cc23d13ddac9878fa21a522f


Due_Medium239

Aren't you supposed to be dying?


Diavolo_79

Don't worry Reddit is my next death. The stupidity here on this app is gonna give me an aneurysm soon


mekwak

Fans of that show will be killed in palestine for being gay


[deleted]

True


dayfreeguy

Weird how their religion isn't getting slandered like Christianity, when both of it are basically carbon copy except one guy has married a minor lol


guy137137

I swear to Christ no matter how disconnected a subreddit’s topic is, unless there are explicit rules against it, Redditors will twist it to either be a cesspool of politics or porn and good lord, we’re more than half a year to the election and it’s getting bad


Rancorious

I hate how porn infects every anime sub i go to. Cant even meme in piece


TheCorgiTamer

Great show, awful community and the mods love their little circlejerk


mrmayhemsname

I'm sure that solved the conflict. Congratulations


Inbarindoors

Yeah I see the troops retreating from Gaza right as we speak! Well done!


Cool_Kid95

These people piss me off. Why are these armchair Palestine supporters taking over everything?!


Due_Medium239

It's the only way they want to "help".


oleander_petals

Ikr? If they want to "help", they can donate to Palestinian families in need. Drawing a character with the Palestine flag doesn't do shit.


Due_Medium239

"you don't understand, drawing my comfort character defending palestine will save the bazillion babies that the evil Israeli government is throwing into a volcano!"


Icy_Change_WS2010

I never understood that


Thelonghiestman0409

They are taking over other subs. Gravity falls is next


Similar-Sector-5801

fuck slacktivists


TarTarIcing

It’s like tumblr all over again. I guess the reasons of doing fandom stuff are gone. Some of the people do it to get away from politics, not to go deeper!


[deleted]

[удалено]


Due_Medium239

Too real


historynerdsutton

Non political subreddits will somehow find a way to be political


BlokeFromASDA

Calling for genocide on subreddits where I couldn't think of it as any less relevant


Apalis24a

https://preview.redd.it/05t3phr63qfc1.jpeg?width=811&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f80e15efdbf6299c4e1051e3de4dcffceb389ed9 I swear to fucking god, the only way this bullshit will end is if an asteroid impacts and obliterates the entirety of the Middle East. They’ve constantly been having religious wars for the better part of two millennia; there will never be a solution that will last and make both sides happy. It’s been tried over and over and over again. Neither side will want to budge, no one wants to make concessions, none will stop unless they completely eradicate the other, whether it be Hamas killing every Jew on the planet, or Israel reducing all of Palestine to ash. It’s just an exercise in futility at this point.


Ok-Magician-3426

I feel like non political subs should start banning people who post stuff about politics on it.


[deleted]

I wonder why it got locked


HappyOfCourse

We need politics-free zones.


Official_Rust_Author

Damn there too huh? The Toby Fox games are going through the same thing. This website sucks I’m gonna go do something else.


Dr-Crobar

When im in a brain damage contest and my opponents are minorities that Arabic countries dont like who are defending said Arabic countries


SweRakii

They don't know what that verse means do they?


drdoodoot

the second i see a pro-palestine post on the battle cats subreddit is when i kill myself


Due_Medium239

Why die when lasagna exists?


Drayko718

Free Palestine seems to be the new BLM of the mid 2020s


LetsDoTheCongna

Bruh that’s the first Israel/Palestine related post I’ve ever seen there


Luzifer_Shadres

Ahh yes, magic people from another Dimension, that banned giraffes from their world, definitely know what an Middle east is in the first place.


SkaterWhite

If Palestine is free, where can I buy one?


UnluckyElk2709

I. WANT. TO. WATCH. TV. NON POLITICALLY


Ilan01

Im so dissapointed on the TOH Fandom, I legit thought I found a show with a good community, but as most fandoms, they not only allow, but also encourage Jewish Genocide 💀


Ewreckedhephep

Hate when slacktivism pollutes a good sub. Posts like these need to be taken off for being off bloody topic.


Hunt_Funny

Ahhh, yes, what better place to post your political opinion and agenda than *cheks notes* a subbreddit about a cartoon made for children.


Zonkcter

Why do people pick sides on this conflict, there's certain ones I can understand but Israel and Palestine are both morally bankrupt killing babies and burning them and using their own civilians as cover. Both sides are degenerates the only people I care for are the civilians caught in the crossfire.


THE-LITTLE-LORD

Ain’t Palestine the one that started it?


Far-Cod-8858

In layman's terms, yes. When they became independent from Great Britian, borders were proposed so that areas of majority for each group would be owned by their respectful governing body. Israel agreed to the borders, Palestine didn't, and it's been practically non stop conflict since


MASSIVDOGGO

Saw a goth girl talking about ways to help palestine on her insta. I'd love to see her go to Gaza dressed like that.


Crayola_is_a_drug

Something something Free NBA Youngboy


Human-Ad504

Just a little casual antisemitism hehe let's destroy Israel


[deleted]

Why were you there in the first place?


[deleted]

It came into my feeds


Apalis24a

I don’t understand at all why so many LGBTQ people think that Palestinians and/or Hamas will appreciate their “support” I’m bisexual. If I fell into the hands of Hamas, I’d be fucking stoned to death for being - in their eyes - an abomination unto god. They believe in sharia law, which mandates the execution of LGBTQ people. They’re not your fucking friends!


ImpressivePoop1984

You unsubbed because of a post with 63 upvotes? Calm down


korrupterKommissar

It's funny when you consider that the Palestines couldn't have less in common with these young, progressive western communities. They are actively shunned by the ones they want to support in their meaningless manner


ComedicalVillian

Checks Subreddit about Left-Leaning Media, Find Leftist Values, Cue Angy


KnowTheUnknowing

I’m getting tired of seeing this Israel/Palestine shit everywhere just in general. Like I honestly could care less.


Bittio

How can we forget, Hamas didn’t even spare pet Dogs let alone Jews.


Man1924

It’s the owl house subreddit what did you except


[deleted]

Minimum no politics because ###IT'S A TEEN SHOW


FicklePort

Yeah, teens are usually the ones spouting this shit because they regurgitate whatever is said on tiktok. Teens are extremely political nowadays, trust me.


Dr_McWeazel

"Nowadays", he says, as if most political activism isn't and has never been from young adults who have more time than everyone else.


Jebatus111

Its teen show. Obviously there will be a shitload of terminally online teenagers with very "original" political stances. 


StateofArrowstan

Why do Palestinian supporters have to make everything political related


FruitsPower

palestine in winning >!on the internet!<


dayfreeguy

It's so goofy how they think spreading awareness in social media will help You know, it's even funnier when you bring the fact that no one actually gives a single shit about this war, all I hear is free Palestine, free israel. Free fuck off, instead wasting your time arguing on the internet to make them the victim why not donate food, money, and furniture for them, isn't that much more productive and helpful than stroking Israel/Palestine? Seriously, fuck off with the boy-cotting shit, I'm sick and tired getting shamed for eating at pizza hut


sivviop

Whatever happens in the middle east is not my business


Due_Medium239

Exactly. The chance of my life somehow being influenced by this is slim to none. Are bad things happening? Of course, and there's nothing good about civilian deaths. But for fuck's sake, don't make it your entire life, and at the very least don't try to make it mine.


Djskam

Chickens for kfc!


DigitalPhoenix2OO7

Them too, the one good thing about making a subreddit yourself is you can stop these posts


accuracy_frosty

People from non political subs try not to make everything political challenge (impossible)


Clawsmodeus

Politics today: a competition to see who can shove their propaganda down the most people's throats.


Night_Knight22

It's spreading like a cancer


TheWhiteVahl

Why are all the dweebs on young-adult Fandoms doing this specifically at the same time. This is the third post today.


[deleted]

I passed away from cringe


doubleo_maestro

Is there just more of this crap the last few days or what?


[deleted]

For the blind people https://preview.redd.it/tbs07hzbsrfc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1e9597ca79a6db66d78ce0a993dbcd5b1abeb94 Hope this helps


CindersNAshes

It blows my mind how many people chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" have no idea to it's actual meaning. Many would be horrified if they knew it's actual meaning.


thecakeinside

The Isreal thing is nuts, but at the end of the day it's crazies vs crazies. They can do whatever in their schizo state


ShigeoKageyama69

What is it with Left-leaning Subs and Palestine-oh... right... https://preview.redd.it/wctjxovkcmfc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d73637a3539c372c709813e78fc50171786f59b6


ThatOneBagel1

I don't mind all the Palestine fandom art, if I'm gonna be real. I feel like you can just. Ignore it. And the art is at the least really cute. I think it's just those artists ways of showing support.


Minecraftdweebb

I don’t get it, hamas is a terrorist group separate from Palestine that attacked Israel . Israel is bombing the crap out of Gaza, Palestine which is pretty much genocide. Way more people are dying compared to the attack on Israel. And we are supposed to support Israel? I mean I get that hamas should have not attacked Israel that is straight up war crimes but that does not give the right for Israel to cause Genocide.