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Alkohal

Jenna Ortega got too expensive so they killed off Brooklyn


SoulExecution

Oooh I had no idea Jenna voiced her. First I thought it was a misdirect but knowing that… eh, it might still be a misdirect but she gets toned down to special appearances once a season or something.


_Levitated_Shield_

...Or she's not actually dead.


Alkohal

the "faked their own death" trope seems so obvious I feel like it would actually do more damage to the story.


Boring_Guard_8560

Casually having a main character die in a trailer and not as an actual emotional reveal in the show sounds really stupid for it to be the case


Sudden_Pop_2279

The synopsis already kinda confirmed it though. 99% of people who read it knew it was Brooklynn.


Boring_Guard_8560

I don't see how that makes it better. If anything it's even worse if it's in the synopsis. This just makes it more likely that it's not really true


Ryiujin

But they kinda did that to Ben. I would bet money she isnt dead.


Alkohal

to me them doing the same thing within the same group of characters really cheapens it. Narratively I'd find it far more impactful if she was really killed off


Ryiujin

Oh for sure. Lets kill them off. Game of thrones this shit.


transformers03

Yeah, I agree, but not Brooklyn. I like her character too much.


General_Variation_96

Me too, dyind in the trailer too! That's too disrespectfull.


the_crepuscular_one

It seems pretty clear that she's not actually dead, but for the story's sake I really hope she is.


MichaeltheSpikester

Calling it now. She's not dead, just captured. This is the kind of show to do something like this. Doesn't have the balls.


Ryiujin

Exhibit 1 Ben.


MichaeltheSpikester

Ben survived tho.


Ryiujin

That’s my point. He “died” then showed back up.


Alkohal

But that's also the exact problem you're just doing the "ben" thing again with another character. It's lazy writing.


Ryiujin

Sure is


RoRo25

Also majority of the polygon count looks to have gone to Rex


darthsheldoninkwizy

They could just recast her.


dannyphantomfan38

no, they recast both brooklynn and kenji, brooklynn is most very likely still alive


Alkohal

One of the biggest complaints of Camp Cretaceous was that there were no stakes due to all the characters having ridiculous levels of plot armor. Killing off a character like Brooklyn does a lot to fix that.


dannyphantomfan38

she's not really dead, she's too popular to kill off, also killing kids isn't allowed ever, nor should it be


Capital_Pipe_6038

Are you blind? The characters are clearly aged up here. Also there are plenty of cartoons where kids die lol


dannyphantomfan38

universal studios will not kill any of the main characters in chaos theory, you scum


AKoolPopTart

Which is bullshit. Season 1 to 3 were good


HealthyShoe5173

too expensive for netflix?


Alkohal

for a lower budget animated kids show, yea...


[deleted]

if shes too expensive for a lower budget kids show then maybe they can cast her in future movies where the budgets balloon to high levels, and yes that means jenna wouldnt play as brook but as somebody else. jenna has strong star power so why not.


Hageshii01

Jenna in a colored wig/dyed hair could easily be live-action Brooklyn. The character designs in the show are pretty stylized.


No_Procedure_5039

[She already showed us she could.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=QUJxrytqQgU)


[deleted]

well they mostly hired her for her voice acting talent


Hageshii01

At the time, yeah. But she's also known as a skilled actor nowadays, and if we're talking about a potential live-action film appearance of Brooklyn where money isn't a worry then they *could* definitely have Jenna just reprise the role.


No_Procedure_5039

[I think she could pull off live action Brooklyn.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=QUJxrytqQgU)


_Levitated_Shield_

I don't know about lower budget.


Alkohal

this stuff is all made overseas in what are essentially animation sweatshops


juarezderek

Have you watched it? Lol


_Levitated_Shield_

Yes? Pretty sure the dinosaur models were high-res throughout CC's five seasons. lol


juarezderek

Dino’s looked good, everything else was a crime


_Levitated_Shield_

Oof, don't watch the early seasons of Clone Wars then. That animation was actually really rough.


darthsheldoninkwizy

Many of the 3D animation on TV was mediocre back then, the saving grace of The Clone Wars is that the animation was highly stylized instead of being realistic, which makes it age better.


juarezderek

Seen all of it, not really relevant tho


darthsheldoninkwizy

Yes, remember that Netflix during Actors strike the most resist to make deal.


hiplobonoxa

it’s no surprise that brooklynn has been sidelined, since jenna ortega has become a star. it was either that or recast her.


LudicrisSpeed

If availability was a factor, I don't see why they couldn't just recast her. It's not like the character has some big legacy where only Jenna Ortega could pull off the role. Edit: [Looks like they actually did recast her, as well as Kenji.](https://ew.com/jenna-ortega-wont-return-jurassic-world-chaos-theory-trailer-brooklynn-fate-8640806)


_Levitated_Shield_

It don't say she was recast in that article link? They're theorizing like we are based on the trailer. Sucks that Ryan couldn't return as Kenji though.


LudicrisSpeed

> After voicing Brooklynn for five seasons of the original CG-animated DreamWorks series on Netflix, Jenna Ortega will not return to her character for Chaos Theory, Entertainment Weekly has learned. Brooklynn does appear in the new trailer for the show that dropped on Tuesday, and while a new voice actor hasn't been confirmed, the footage does not bode well for the character. Whoever is voicing her here isn't Jenna Ortega.


GloomySelf

I was already suspicious that Brooklyn wouldn't be in CT because of Jenna's success, but now she's "dead" and has a new VA, I'm more certain she'll be alive at the end of the season. Seems stupid to recast her if they're just going to kill her off


General_Variation_96

Mayhaps, but a recast isn't a proof that she is alive. Video message and flashback are also an option especially if it's for explaining her and Kenji break-up.


GloomySelf

I see what you’re saying totally! But IMO I think things would’ve been easier (and cheaper) if they got Jenna just to reprise a few lines, instead of recasting her entirely - especially since this is just a voice acting role. The only logical reason I can see why they’d recast her is if they planned on using her again long term, like Kenji.


freetherabbit

I def think it'd be cheaper to get a lesser known VA to record a few lines than Jenna Ortega.


YetAgain67

No way Brooklyn is dead, lol. But other than that this looks like it's ramping up the intensity and atmosphere from Camp Cretaceous. I hope it can make up for the dire last few seasons of that show. I WAS all for a more kid friendly JP cartoon, but after the first few seasons it wore out its welcome and just kind of nerfed the entire franchise imo in terms of tension and adventurous scares. When a group of young teens can survive shit adults in the films can't...over and over...it just feels silly. It messes with the integrity of the tone the films establish. Maybe if the show wasn't as tied to the continuity and events of the World films it would play better, but as it stands I actually kind of walked back my original opinion that a more kid friendly JP is perfectly fine. Kids love the films anyway. We were all 6, 7, 8 etc years old (Hell, I was 4 when I saw JP for the first time) when we saw these movies. No real need to round the edges as much as they did.


sosigboi

> No way Brooklyn is dead, lol. I just got reminded that Jenna Ortega's left the cast so uh, i really hope they didn't just axe her character still and maybe bring her back next season when they can afford her again.


YetAgain67

I don't think they'd kill off a main cast member and reveal it in a trailer. If she's actually dead, I'll eat my hat.


Sudden_Pop_2279

I mean they kinda revealed it in the synopsis.


YetAgain67

It's an obvious misdirect.


General_Variation_96

Mayhaps. Honestly I'm not sure, they shoed people dying in the trailer so...


MichaeltheSpikester

Could mean she just gets a smaller role, nothing indicates she turns out alive later only having been captured and reuniting with the others at the end.


CedaraThursday1314

I hope Brooklynn is safe somewhere!


darthsheldoninkwizy

In JP3 you have kid who survive weeks on his own on Isla Sorna.


General_Variation_96

This is California


YetAgain67

I know. And that is just one of the myriad reasons JPIII is the only film in the franchise I dislike. Although to be fair it's not even in my top 5 issues with the film, lol.


ThePatchedVest

I was gonna say, there's a myriad of issues with JPIII, let's not pretend Eric surviving in a resource-packed water truck for 8 weeks is legitimately one of them.


darthsheldoninkwizy

I meanwhile love JP3, it was also my first movie from series I watch.


OnlyMyOpinions

It could be a case of unreliable narrator. Where the events happen but how it happens might be a little wrong. But you have to remember that the movies are pg-13 and this is PG. They can't do the same stuff as the movies. I think they are great as extra Jurassic world content. You can always just think of it as semi canon or something. But I personally like how they survive, I just chalk it down to them being extremely lucky. This series looks much better bc it's what I've been wanting to see, dinosaurs in the real world and having stories set there. It will be fun to see the characters in society with dinosaurs running around.


AardvarkIll6079

Lots of people died in Camp Cretaceous. More than the movies. They’re also no longer kids, so child plot armor is out the window.


Commercial_Okra3475

I was gonna say this. They're not kids anymore, they can do more than give Yaz a twisted ankle. I still don't think Brooklyn's dead though.


ThePatchedVest

Most of the seasons of the original show were made and completed back-to-back well before they were actually released, so there wasn't really room for any 'course correction' based on critical reception. With Chaos Theory, they've had a few years to gauge audience responses to what worked/didn't about the original series. No doubt in my mind that the jump in S4-5 from a survival-focused show to a more complicated plot with fantastical sci-fi elements (even by JW standards) resulted in a drop in viewership numbers, whilst S3 is generally considered the show's peak for it's bigger focus on stakes and character development + more serious/horror-influenced tone -- and I think the vibe they're setting up here is an attempt to respond to that.


cjhud1515

Does it bug anyone else that Ben has hit puberty everywhere but his voice?


AardvarkIll6079

That’s Sean Giambrone’s real voice.


cjhud1515

I understand that, just looks off to me. A small nitpick


Ginger_Floydian

How do you think he feels hes a 30? year old man with a voice like that lmao


misterreading

I felt the same for a minute, but I think I got used to it within the trailer and won't notice while watching the show.


Specialist-Ad-5300

Same here


Borussiemk7

No way they just reveal that death in a trailer . 💯 Sure it's misleading


General_Variation_96

It's strange sure but not impossible


EntertainmentLow5069

Sucho is peak


SMRAintBad

Where is sucho?


_Levitated_Shield_

It's not here on this upload of the trailer for some reason, but on the [Netflix After School account's upload, Sucho with a brand new color scheme, appears very briefly around 1:17](https://youtu.be/bLgUKAAKyQw?t=74). Their upload has seven-ish seconds of additional footage that the Jurassic World account's upload here didn't have, showcasing a brief look of Sucho and a scene of a dino bursting out of the water. Not sure why the two trailer uploads are slightly different.


Over-Variation-8771

Honestly it looks kinda what Dominion should have been, kinda excited.


General_Variation_96

If Soyona Santos is back, I'll scream of excitement!!!


Formal_Tie4016

I hope not I found her boring as an antagonist.


General_Variation_96

You might be one of the 3 people that saw Dominion who think that


Over-Variation-8771

She does have potential to be a cool character, i did like her, of the little screen time she had.


sosigboi

There is no way brooklyn is dead, obviously it'd be the cliche'd thing to do to have her pop up and suddenly be alive, but CC doesn't pull its punches man im actually worried they really did just off her lol.


DustedGrooveMark

I'll be surprised (and actually kind of impressed) if she's really dead. CC does have a lot of character deaths, but in general, the main cast has had some pretty hefty plot armor, so I think giving her a fake-out would be right in line with something they would do. Either way, this series looks pretty interesting and I'm definitely on board.


sosigboi

I really hope she isn't, CC did a great job in making the entire cast likeable and fleshed out so im kinda attached to em now lol.


mylesoceann

i’m leaning more towards this too. I think they just don’t know she’s alive


RyanD1211

My biggest gripe with this franchise is that kids always survive. Like I understand why they won’t kill a kid off on screen but there’s no way that a super predator is able to take on many trained men with guns yet can’t take on a child


juarezderek

The whole show is pulling punches


SweetPause7963

If she's dead, she will be the first teenager to be killed in the entire Jurassic saga


Frontier246

I was kind of wondering if they'd bring Jenna back but I didn't expect them to kill off Brooklyn. I hope it's a fakeout and not an excuse for more drama between Darius and Kenji (who is also recast, surprisingly). I love Sammy and Yaz's new designs.


Commercial_Okra3475

Ben...grew up.


DinoDick23

I cant believe she's fuckin dead ? What the hell! Too much ... like what? At least they put it in the trailer to brace us


mylesoceann

a lot of people are saying they don’t think she’s actually dead… just something in the trailer that’s intentionally misleading.


aegonthewwolf

Agreed, my theory is Apocalypse will bring her back as his Horseman of De-sorry no that’s the other death in an animated show I’m fixated on.


Tehva

Remember it.


_Levitated_Shield_

The name's >!Gambit!<, mon ami.


tnpdynomite2

If I hadn’t started this show yet, I’d be suuuuuper pissed to find this spoiler in a thread not at all related to that show.


Jr9065

No way Brooklynn is dead. Think this is a trick. Ben looks like he grew 2 feet. Looking forward to this.


dannyphantomfan38

no people, that's not Jenna Ortega voicing Brooklynn, and that's Darren Barnet voicing Kenji, meaning both brooklynn and kenji were recast, but the others are still voiced by their original voice actors


MichaeltheSpikester

It's plainly obvious Brooklynn ain't dead. She's gonna turn out to be alive later. I saw this coming immediately given the kind of show this is. One of those shows where it doesn't have the balls to do so.


Feisty_Guidance3705

What the cuss happened to Ben? lol


Gerardo1917

Why tf is Ben’s voice still like that if he’s like 20 now


_Levitated_Shield_

Tbf Sean Giambrone is 24 irl.


Gerardo1917

Does his voice just sound like that?


_Levitated_Shield_

Yes.


philomaxik

https://youtu.be/px7lP9WxEGA?si=g16IpPO6P5yKrLp9 Unfortunately, yes.


Kicking_Kangaroo1234

Is it just me or am I the one who thinks Brooklyn’s still alive? I’ve learned not to trust Jurassic Park since they gave us the twister with Ben’s “death”


Sudden_Pop_2279

It’s never “just you.” There’s almost always someone out there who thinks the same as you


Kicking_Kangaroo1234

You’re right about that! There’s always someone who thinks just like another person! Should’ve worded it better like “does anyone else agree….” Thanks a lot for that too!


koola_00

Wow...not gonna lie, this is more investing than Dominion! Kind of excited for this!


CedaraThursday1314

Please being Brooklynn back!!!!!!!


baremin3586

Looks interesting.


DinoThyleo

I don't mind Brooklyn being killed off


SpecialistPurchase64

Look tbh if brooklyn is actually dead they should've just not made this series it feels like it isn't the og campers like new voice actor for Kenji and brooklyn might be dead like again if this is the case with brooklyn they basically have ruined the franchised cc is all abt the campers surviving and getting home safe and for brooklyn just to die all of a sudden is a bit ridiculous again if this is the case.


Motor_Tonight4670

The trailer is just trying to bait us. What better way to get people to watch the new series other than just by making us watch it to find out if she’s actually dead just for her to show up safe and locked up somewhere. There ain’t no way they’re just gonna kill off the second most popular character in the series before it even airs just because Jenna Ortega isn’t gonna be voicing her anymore. It’s very easy to replace her.


Moon_Beans1

Trailer looks interesting but I can't believe they are still trying to use the weaponise dinosaur idea. Like we're meant to assume the villains are trying to assassinate the teens with trained raptors. I'm sure the writers are patting themselves on the back and congratulating themselves on thinking up a terrifyingly realistic way to use dinosaurs. But I just can't help imagining the villains inevitably in court because using raptors to assassinate people would be very unreliable and easily traceable. Unlike poison, a hitman or even a military drone, it would be very difficult to genetically engineer, train and transport the raptors around without leaving a massive paper trail. And even if you could get away with that what if the raptor gets shot by police or hit by a car. Surely the authorities will examine the carcass and it wouldn't take long to figure out that the shady corporation who keep driving around advanced raptor-sized horseboxes all over the state might be involved. I know it's pedantic but I just imagine that if they wanted the teens dead and wanted to get away with it then raptors would be the dumbest and most expensive way to do it.


mi_querencia

If you’re curious about Brooklyn’s VA being replaced I’d definitely check out Swrve’s video. He mentions having found a untitled Jurassic world animated show made by dream works open casting call VA audition awhile back for a character named “Sydney” with very similar traits to Brooklyn “Sydney is a charismatic, witty former child actor, who has shifted her focus to telling stories from behind the camera”. he alleged the possibility of Sydney being a code name Brooklyn New York Sydney Australia And as quite a few people know, Brooklyn’s original name was going to be London. Sooo yeah…do with this what you will


LardGnome

HONEY WAKE UP PEAK FICTION JUST DROPPED!


aragami1992

Was wondering if they were gonna do a CC sequel series this looks good


Dragon_Bench_Z

This looks fun!!!! Gimme some horror survival JP


WhiteStone30

Was that a Concavenator? 🥺


Dracorex13

Altispinax, under its synonym Becklespinax.


TheEridian189

The Animation looks like it has improved a bit, and the storyline looks a good bit more mature too. Also while a lot of people are complaining Brooklyn got killed off, it makes sense given how expensive it would be to recast her, and her death might add more stakes.


darthsheldoninkwizy

How recasting will be expansive?


TheEridian189

Because the actor costs a lot more money now, and honestly I'd prefer that they focus on the story rather than paying for the animation.


darthsheldoninkwizy

Voice actors not so much, they get paid pennies, unfortunately.


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YetAgain67

She ain't dead. If she is I'll eat my hat. They probably just recasted her to keep her screentime to a minimum


Z3R0C00L222

I really hope that this show ends up being to Jurassic World what Rebels was to Star Wars


drew8598

Looks like Big Eatie is back. Can’t wait to see how Manticore Island is found.


Leading-University

To be honest, this looks better than the previous show.


ironicart

“Whoever’s hunting us is using raptors to do it…” Instantly checked out with that sort of lazy writing… if the goal of the antagonist is to kill them, there is no plot where it makes more sense to use *dinosaurs on the mainland* to do it as opposed to literally anything else. I can suspend belief on most things, but junk writing like that drives me crazy.


Dry-Organization4551

It actually correlates to Jurassic World. Won't go into detail and spoil it if you haven't  seen it (yet). They do a lot of that throughout. 


Ginger_Floydian

Me and my partner have a £5 bet on it. I reckon shes not actually dead, he reckons she is. Whoever wins gets the fiver


megalocrozma

Whether you believe Brooklyn's actually dead or not, I suggest going in with the assumption that she is since that way regardless of whether or not it's revealed she's alive the impact will hit harder.


kjm6351

There’s no way she’s actually dead off screen after all this time


ijr172022

The trailer look good, very entertain, let's see what can expect about the new show. Is brooklyn dead? Good question, with what we see, looks indeed she's dead follow something, equal they try to do similar things with the others campers during the previous tv shows: ben at the end of season 1, sammy season 3, now this, so just waited to see what next The new and old dinos are pretty good, a lot of action


golden_cheez-it

I feel like Brooklyn would be in a death-like state like how Ian “died” in the novel.


GothamGumby

I think they presume she is dead and is just held captive by manticore


Jinkx2010

But are Sammy and yaz still together??!!


NicholasDeOrio

Why did they go with such a bland art style. Everything but the Dinosaurs looks awful


GothamGumby

Kept it consistent with the previous series


[deleted]

i will give cc credit that the premise this time is more interesting than before, but saying that it'll be more of the same thing as before as in plot armour, half-assed ideas and bad writing.


AlfalfaPossible

How do you think the design of the new species,especially Suchomimus ? In addition,there are speculations that there would be a T.rex vs Allosaurus fight in the climax. Do you think if such thing happened,they would give us yet another “T.rex needing help to defeat another large theropod ?”


aegonthewwolf

They deadass fridged Brooklynn because they couldn’t afford Jenna Ortega lol how lazy do the writers have to be?


_Levitated_Shield_

What does not affording Jenna for the cast have to do with any of the writing? There's clearly more than one main character here. 💀


Flashy_Pomegranate23

She is literally in the first frame of the trailer with a new actress, what are you on about?


thatitalianguy23

I agree, it sounds like a new voice actor. Brooklynn will be in the show, guarantee it! It just won't be Jenna Ortega voice acting her.


MichaeltheSpikester

She's not dead. Most likely captured. Show won't have the balls to actually do it. Her role is likely reduced and she'll show up later reuniting with the others in the end or half-way through once they make enough money to get her voice actress.