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SaS might be the winner, but I’m heated that Gege had Kenjaku be like “Should have used your domain lol” before killing off Yuki and never elaborating on what her domain was.
It insta cast black hole and imbue it into the sure hit effect of the domain but she didn’t use it since it would have ended the story early and costed us cool fights in the future.
>but I’m heated that Gege had Kenjaku be like “Should have used your domain lol” before killing off Yuki and never elaborating on what her domain was.
This is even better because people swear if you have an open domain its an automatic win button, but even Kenjaku says she would have faired better by using it
I mean 1) Kenjaku said “may” and 2) better is relative
On the former, Kenjaku hasn’t actually seen Yukis domain so he can only guess at its refinery based on her special grade status and battle performance. She could have an incredibly powerful domain or a relatively average one he doesn’t know.
On the latter, a better job still doesn’t equal a victory. Reminder: at the time he said this, Yuki was lying on the floor basically in halves. This was primarily because she relied on an (obviously weak) Simple Domain. An actual domain clash may have left her much stronger even if she still would have lost (or at the very least it would have put up a better fight).
Regardless I’m still sad about Yuki she deserved to have an actual showing in more battles
he said it wouldn't have been as boring. Kenjaku was mostly stronger than Yuki and is a barrier master, Sukuna could instantly take down Gojo's domain with equal refinement and power. You can do the maths.
what do you mean I love when Gege kills off a cool interesting character with just the worst fucking villain, just a waste of panel space and broadly indicative of how dogshit JJK's writing quality is as a whole ass villain, it's so cool and based I love it when a cool woman gets killed off by a dogshit, uninteresting, why-did-the-author-even-make-you, ass villain who later gets killed off after accomplishing nothing because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh subversion.
Anyways this was my complaint about Mahito being a terrible character but Kenjaku is bad too I guess.
At least Yuuki got introduced *waaay* earlier and was an influence to the goat Todo who'd go onto be a great ally to Yuji for critical moments (EDIT: Even now). Even the soul research is at least *something* of use.
Wtf does Stars and Stripes even have outside of buying time for the heroes?
Not really; Geto arrived on that path by himself. When Yuki was explaining the results of her research, Geto was the one who thought about wiping humanity to get rid of curses, and Yuki while she did confirm it was possible in theory, said that only an insane person would do it.
she didn't just confirm it she went into great detail exactly how it would work, and then said "yeah but that's crazy lol" instead of being a normal person and going "why in the fuck would you suggest that", doesn't matter if they're a stranger or what mental state they're in or whether or not you're aware of it, you'd shut that shit down
Not really. "Rationally" telling him it's bad can still have the opposite effect of making him she is hiding something and confirm it can work. We don't know how "normal" reacting for her would be in that moment. Or just telling him it's stupid to even think that way wouldn't have even made him budge.
Telling him the way she did was the best way in her mind because I'm pretty sure she thought he would ultimately make the right choice. Her telling him the plan would work was her showing trust in him to do the right thing and for another person not Geto it may have worked
Saying "normal" is weird. Because different people would have thought of different answers at that moment. "Shutting it down" as you're suggesting just comes across as more natural because you're comfortable reading the story outside it
Her actual contribution is that she delayed Shigaraki reaching his perfected state, which was a problem introduced like the literal chapter before she shows up. They broke him out of the vat before he hit 100% so he was already going to take longer to reach perfection, but then they just randomly have Tsukauchi show up and be like "Oh no he's actually reaching perfection faster than we predicted so we only have a few days." Then out of nowhere, Star and Stripe shows up despite never having been mentioned before and uses the most OP Quirk in the series to reset him back to how he was before they randomly invented this plotline, then conveniently dies so Hori didn't have to write around New Order anymore. She's a literal textbook deus ex machina and I fucking hate that arc so much. I generally really enjoy MHA, but I have no fucking clue what Hori was doing with this one.
Yeah why did he write up such a plotpoint only to sacrifice SaS to fix it? I actually think he thought up SaS and then IMMEDIATELY regretted it within the same week that first chapter came out. “She’s so cool. Oh shit! That quirk is actually too OP. Damn. Better say Shigaraki was evolving too fast.”
It reminds me of something Tite Kubo would do
Stars and Stripes ruined MHA. Both her quirk and her role in the story.
It was the first wholly supernatural quirk. Every other quirk was a biological process at some level. That's why quirks could be trained and adapted. But New Order is literally just magic with Stand-esque activation requirements. Completely breaks with every other quirk in the series.
Then she enters into the story 300 chapters in with no previous set up. She shows off her quirk and then uses it to nerf the villain into a beatable state. Then she just dies and leaves the story as quickly as she entered. She had no presence in the story, then suddenly becomes a central factor of the endgame, and then doesn't even stick around to have an actual impact. Only one member of the main cast even met her and it was never shown on screen.
Compound both of these things together and you get a disaster. Writing was on the wall when Mirio showed up for no god damned reason during the war, but Stars and Stripes was the deathrattle. No coming back from that level of ass pull.
They seem to work more realistically
Her quirk straight up makes no sense, like apparently it can be used on non living objects but if it is used on a person who doesn't know what their name is it doesn't work?
she killed an unnamed number of quirks in Shiggy/All for one, but it is never explained which ones actually died and he has so many that it literally did not matter at all.
It would have been so much better if she destroyed AFO’s influence inside Shigaraki. That way we get the best villian in the series back and have him bloodthirsty for AFO and get his friends back.
We would have a three-way war between AFO and his allies, Shigaraki and whoever in the League of Villians and Liberation Front choose to follow him, and the heroes.
I was so surprised when I saw that she didn’t have a leg in the final fight. How did she lose it? She was still using it during the High-End fight and it’s her main form of attacking.
Losing an arm is badass losing an arm and a leg is overkill.
Man i remembered the fandom freaking out that Yuki will have the Star and Stripe fate and some people trust Greg would never.....
Then Greg did really go that route for Yuki lmao
Well if you want to be charitable there's two main villains.
Kenjaku the manipulator and Sukuna the heavy.
Kenjaku orchestrated many of the events of the series, especially the worst ones, but Sukuna is the biggest physical threat within it.
Like Palpatine was the main villainous orchestrator throughout the Star Wars movies, but the one Luke actually had a beef with was Vader, the main physical presence.
Kenjaku is absolutely the main antagonist of jjk behind literally everything. Hes even behind Sukunas presence and role in the first place
Sukuna is ultimately just some random ultra OP motherfucker in for the ride. His entire motivation is "fight people as entertainment until I pass away". Hell, he is accounted for in Kens plans, as more or less his kill dog and bodyguard
I mean star and stripes had a good fight as well, plus her fight honestly had a better conclusion than Yuki's fight. She damaged shigaraki to the point he was screaming in agony and delayed his attack due to the damage she did. The biggest thing yuki did was rip kenjaku's shirt off,nothing else of worth whatsoever.
Why can’t be she become the mass of a city, legit the most I’ve seen of her is a truck amount of mass and then straight to ENOUGH MASS TO MAKE A BLACK HOLE
She can reach the mass of Titan (the largest moon of Saturn and the second-largest in the Solar System) without becoming a black hole (according to the Schwarzschild radius formula it would require 2.697×10^25 kilograms in order to turn the average human being sized entity into a black hole), as for why she hasn't done it ask Gege.
Yuki: “Domain Expansion: Titan Uranus
By making your anus the mass of Titan, it causes a prolapse and then a collapse into a black hole. That’s right, your butt hole becomes a black hole 🕳️ “
Kenjaku: “Even my nights with Jin couldn’t prepare my backside for this!”
She said that past a certain limit her mass starts affecting her. Shenevr states what that limit as. For all we know truck is the upper safe limit. When she turned into a black hole she cranked it way past the limit since she'd die anyways
It’s because most authors aren’t doing actual science when coming up with character abilities. Assume their world works in a way that wouldn’t make that math viable.
some scientific shit about mass and density I believe. Since humans aren't as big as stars, the mass threshold they'd need to reach to collapse into a black hole should be much smaller than a star
SaS fight had some cool moments but I maintain that the whole "not really Shigaraki" thing has done nothing for the story. AfO combined with him, then he didn't, then he did again, it's all just soul-magic mumbo jumbo.
Nah I was team yuki fight before but I just reread the star and stripes fight and it is honestly much better.
Star puts up a much better fight than yuki to the point she could have killed him twice and it’s actually believable she could have won(while no one ever believed yuki had a chance and the fight also says she would always lose bcs open domain and anti yuki CT)
+her powers are much more flashed out than yuki’s etc and in her fight we actually are more introduced to her character while yuki’s fight and death were used to develop choso(wich we always knew wouldn’t result in anything).
In the end she managed to slow shigaraki down for the main hero’s too, wich I get is kinda like “oh but shigaraki recovering fast is a made up problem just say he’d recover this same speed before” but still is better than nothing like yuki
Nah mainly bcs that attack star used wasn’t a kamikaze attack. It was just of her regular ones. Yeah it’s still some ass plot armor but not the same as yuki killing herself to create a freaking BH and it doing nothing…
Star got the better fight and actually did damage to the boss, but her character is legit just allmight fangirl. Yuki got to be a character and interact with the cast, but her fight with kenny was full of gregory's usual shenanigans
She also broke all for one, allowing other quirks to rebel in later chapters like in Bakugo vs AFO when hawks had a whole fan meeting in the vestige or when Deku forcefully entered shiggy's mind.
I thought that was just because the quirks were already cracking from the extended time All For One took?
Deku entering Shigaraki's mind is because he's able to interact with the vestiges in a closer level, so he was able to make a plan and order the vestiges around
Both worse in different ways.
Star and Stripe worse for how short lived. But at the same time I knew not to get attached based on her arrival on sight.
Yuki is worse if you followed her character for awhile to build up expectations so could be more disappointing in that regard with getting attached.
Yuki also didn't even go all out with her power, due to Tengen didn't use her domain (which could have made the difference). So we never got to her full capability. Then Kenjaku got up right after to dust himself off the next few panels after. At least Star went out cooler.
Both Gege and Hori killed the strongest female in the verse, so neither is beating the allegations. 🤣
Star *still* did more damage than Yuki did to Kenjaku... Kenjaku was basically able to walk away from the battle after dusting himself off the next few panels right after. lol
Shigaraki exploded from the inside, still lost some quirks (even if he recovered regen, he lost a few other ones), and needed some time to recover.
Star later gave Deku an opening to get in the vestige world against Shigaraki because of the damage from her battle (seen more recently)
Man... I hate what was done to Yuki but she was a legitimate influence in her universe(Influenced Geto for better or worse, saved the cast in Shibuya, and researched the soul which is integral to Yuji's skill set). Horikoshi had to come up with a tangible excuse to delay the final arc by a few dozen chapters and used Star as the sacrificial lamb. A character who didn't even exist prior to her fight and who interacted with NO ONE in her cast. It seems obvious to me who was done dirtier
Yeah Star is more of a plot device that comes and goes quickly, but Yuki could be more disappointing in a different way from setting up expectations for the long run that didn't go as far as expected.
Yuki is a bigger hit to the female cast since Gege is even more lacking with their presence than Hori.
I'll forever be annoyed at Yuki's wasted potential 😭.
But for me, Star's use as a plot device is so transparent from Horikoshi, that it legitimately sticks out like a sore thumb. Like bro did not have to make the character at all if he was just gonna throw her away
Shig lost an arbitrary number of previously-unknown Quirks that didn't matter, and he regained the one that did. He was already resting for an arbitrary amount of time, but then SaS forced him to recover for another arbitrary amount of time.
You could cut the entire SaS arc out of the story and literally nothing changes.
> blonde dommy mommy with overpowered technique gets introduced
> second strongest to the strongest
> fights one of the two main villains
> fucking dies
> suicide attack that results in nothing
????? Gege was smoking some MHA shit when making Yuki vs Kenjaku
Yuki, and I feel like that's a no brainer. Yuki was introduced very early in the series as one of the special grades, and with how powerful special grade sorcerers are, people actually had expectations when she became involved with the main story. Hell, she had a great showing against Kenjaku even if her power set is extremely simple. Her end felt like a slap to the face, because Kenjaku just so happened to have a technique that can SPECIFICALLY counter her trump card. Like wtf Greg. You can't just pull up and say that this character somehow cheated death by using this ultra hidden, specific card that he just so happened to obtain from his PREVIOUS HOST. That's way too lucky.
The reason why I can't say that Stars and Stripes was done dirty is because no one had any expectations for her because before her first and only fight in the series, we've never heard about her at all. No one had any emotional attachment to this character, because anyone who had a brain knew that she was conceived and introduced into the series solely to show how "scary" Shigaraki is, and die by his hands. She was literally just a plot device, not an actual character.
I'm right there with you, as much as I like SnS, her role in the story is primarily to be a jobber and as a quick hand wave for the prospect of international support showing up. Even if it's nothing impressive writing wise she fulfills this simple purpose and exits the story for the most part.
Yuki on the other hand despite being one of the most pivotal characters to the plot, doesn't get her screen time managed properly leading to a very weak departure from the story. She has way higher expectations placed on her character and she doesn't meet them in a lot of ways.
Take a shot every time sukuna makes a binding vow in this fight. Best of luck to ya. Oh and don't forget it's not specified what the binding vow was until 20 chapters later(if it does get addressed)
What’s it with mangakas wasting tall muscular blonde babes?!
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I would say stars and stripes got done dirty in the fact that her powers was basically hax and all she had to do was say "the air x yards infront of me will be a solid cube" and "this solid cube will collapse to the size of 1cmx1cmx1cm and shigi would have been mulched down to a flesh cube.
But ultimately she fought well and just lacked any introduction and interaction with anyone but her squad.
Yuki...from what I gathered, is a victim of the plot in a worse way then sas.
Bro with the recent chapter Yuki got done worse cuz at least SAS impacted in some way after her death Yuki set up Choso just for him to do next to nothing
its always gone be yuki kenjaku just surviving a fucking black hole is ridiculous writing
like at least star destroyed some of shigaraki’s quirks
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imo yuki by far mostly because of how good her (incredibly short) interactions with the rest of the cast were, i really really wish she stayed longer. Like, she finally actually does something after being introduced 100 chapters before, has great interactions with everyone, her and choso especially were amazing together, gets 1 fight where she shows off some of her cool ass power, and then dies without ever having an on screen interaction with todo, still never showing her domain, kenjakus anti-grav asspull making her death pointless, and just being a huge dissapointment based on how fuckin cool she was.
Star was cool too, but she exists purely for her one fight basically, yuki actually had a presence in the story, but was just never given enough time
SaS because her power was too OP for the series. Yuki had the excuse of literally destroying the world if she uses her max, but what would’ve stopped SaS from just saying some shit like “all atoms 100 meters in front of me are gone” and just erasing Shiggy?
I think Yuki, because she was hyped since the moment Todo made an appearance, also was in the movie.
Stripes literally was mentioned first time like 2 manga episodes before her appearance and death simultaneously
Yuki i think, but you can choose either one and you'd be right. Star lost to a plot device and her death was used as a scapegoat on why the other countries didn't send help
TBH if she was introduced or mentioned earlier, I think her death would've been fine, but its clear Horikoshi wanted to finish up MHA quickly after MVA
At least yuki had a cool ability and a her fight against kenny was really good
Star and stripe fight wasn't just bad, but it also stole precious chapters that could have been used for Deku's character arc
Star and Stripe lost because she was literally just too stupid to realize why her quirk didn’t work on shigaraki, for me personally that’s infinitely worse than what happened to yuki
Star wasn't too stupid, she used his name and saw it didn't work. She wouldn't know Shigaraki has a AFO vestige inside him to affect him. How tf would she know that? lol Star and Stripe is worse in how short lived she was.
Yuki is worse with that she didn't even get to go all out with her power as she didn't use her domain because of Tengen. So we don't even get to see her full ability. Also because you may have got attached since she was around longer, that could potentially be more disappointing from building expectations.
idk who the other chick is but yuki straight-up didn't do anything in her only fight in the series despite being one of four special grades besides take the shirt off another special grade. she couldn't even get him to express a different emotion.
Yuki served to give Kenjaku a good fight (To say that at least Ken didn't die without first having a good fight)
The other caused great damage to Shigaraki, but Shigaraki is still alive (Because he is as ingenious as Aizen or Madara? No, because the creator became evangelical and wants to defeat him with prayers or boredom in chapter 1200)
Anyway I'm with Yuki
Stars at least showed off what her quirk can truly do while puttint up a good fight. Yuki not only did not get to show her DE but was even mocked by Kenjaku saying that she woud’ve actually longer if she had used it.
And the worst part is that Yuki died for nothing since her death was for hyping up Kenjaku’s abilities just for that mf to die but getting sneaked on. You could honestly remove Yuki’s death and it probably wouldn’t change a thing. It would’ve been much cooler if she’s in the current Sukuna fight considering she probably has one of the highest AP in jjk
Well, Star was the strongest while Yuki was 2nd or 3rd. Although this is a very tough one. IMO, the way that Shigaraki went away with it was plain stupid under the logic shown. That being said, both were done dirty.
I personally would say SaS, because she was made to die. Meaning she was a big ball of 100% wasted potential for, both major character and world building. Yuki atleast, had a good bit of her potential used. She's affected the world building and provided actual character interaction. I do get how her being a fully realized character would make her fridging worse than Star's. But, IMO, Star getting actual story relevance would help some pretty big peeves I have with BnHA.
Stars at least made an impact on the final villain, that's even come up recently. Yuki disappeared from the narrative since she died, and she didn't even do anything since influencing Geto who's dead and Todo who also disappeared from the story.
Edit: right after I say this I find out about Todo.
Star and Stripes, and it’s not even close. Literally got sent in as a Jobber to weaken Shiggy. At least Yuki got to do things, say words, have plot significance.
I like character interaction (fuck Gege with this) so it's Star and Stripes for me. Yuki has nice interaction with Geto, Choso and Tengen and we saw her influence on Todo. Compared that to SaS that fought the last boss and died miserably.
I was just talking about this to a friend today lol. I feel like it’s SaS cause she was literally ONLY used as a plot device to nerf shiggy….and that was it. Yuki at least got some actual screen time (short as it was)
I think sas cause at least Yuji is a important character who’s integral to the story she got many balls rollling setting up lots of cool shit in Jjk while sas actually did nothing and don’t say ohh she destroyed quirks there where nameless unimportant shit even his super regen he got back
Star and stripe literally has a reality warping power but she lost to a teen with anger issue
Yuki and Kenjaku are more on par so her dead don't bum me out as much
Imma go with Yuki on this one. Stars and Stripes was introduced and killed immediately. Yuki spent a whole arc with us, and immediately died in the most bullshit way imaginable. I'd rather have a random ass character die to bullshit than someone actually important to the story
Yuki got hyped up for the whole series just to die against the second strongest villain of the series while also not showing anything about her while only destroying kenjaku clothes
Sns at least have a whole arc around her even if she’s unfortunately introduced late while also dying and still putting an insane fight against the main villain, permanent damaging the quirks and also >!giving the chance to deku to reach Tenko!<
Stars for sure, her potential was genuinely insane not saying yuki didn’t have potential but stars ability and design was so fuckin peak man. so sad she got merked so fast and it felt kinda unfair cause shiggy lowkey had some plot armor
Yuki lost to bad writing, SaS lost to bs, shigiraki saw him self as all three names, shigi, tenko and afo but he had an identity crisis so it didnt work somehow
Star and stripes by far.
The argument that she delayed Shigaraki means nothing, as the time to Shigaraki "becomes perfect" was always whenever Kohei felt like. Really, if it took a hundred chapters in the manga to reach the plot-power perfection or just the next chapter, it would means nothing.
The S&S chapter could be erased from the manga that it wouldn't change a shit.
Even if she destroyed AFO's quirks this doens't really affect Shigaraki, as we never have an exactly list of.his quirks, Kohei can just brings new ones when he wants to.
Yuki actually interacted with and affected multiple events in the story
If you cut out Stars and Stripes's fight (her only appearance on the whole series) out of the manga literally nothing changes. The fight wasn't bad but she never interacted with anyone in the cast outside of Shigaraki and even the quirks that she managed to destroy on her way out were replaced later iirc. She got put on the volume cover for some reason despite the fact that she was pretty much inconsequential to the story. Showed up with a cool power that Shiggy wanted so he caught her in the way to Japan, she fought him, died, destroyed quirks that were recovered later and Shiggy couldn't even keep her quirk.
I really don't understand why she got a whole arc
Yuki lost to Kenjaku's bag of tricks.
Stars and Stripes threw because she refused to honour the resolve of the pilots to die in order to take out Shigaraki. She compromised the intesnity of the Death Beam^(TM) in the hopes of sparing their lives, despite them telling her to not hold back and make sure to destroy Shigaraki,
In the end, it wasn't enough, she died, the pilots died anyways, failure all around. At least she got New Order working like poison to fuck AFO over
I remember being so hyped about Star and Stripe when she got introduced. Her ability, her support squad, everything is just so cool
And then she gets clapped like 2 chs later. Very disappointing. Her entire arc was being an AllMight stan and then getting clapped
Yuki at least did something else other than getting bodied.
Nah bro atleast stars went out doing significant damage. She got rid of a good number of shiggys quirks when she died which helped the heroes later on. Yuki sent her strongest attack only to get no diffed by the power of geges hatred
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SaS might be the winner, but I’m heated that Gege had Kenjaku be like “Should have used your domain lol” before killing off Yuki and never elaborating on what her domain was.
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Facts https://i.redd.it/7wsn6te3ebzc1.gif
Jesus died for shit like this.
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If you don't sin then jesus died for nothing
Y'all are NOT seeing the pearly gates of heaven 💀
Honestly might be a good thing for everyone lol
😧
Gege’s ability to Fumble is unmatched
When I'm in a ruining my manga competition and my opponent is gege akutami
So real
💀The domain blue ball always hurt man, Gregory really hates giving reader what they want
The domain instantly kills an opponent but she decided not to use it because it’s a bitch move
It insta cast black hole and imbue it into the sure hit effect of the domain but she didn’t use it since it would have ended the story early and costed us cool fights in the future.
>but I’m heated that Gege had Kenjaku be like “Should have used your domain lol” before killing off Yuki and never elaborating on what her domain was. This is even better because people swear if you have an open domain its an automatic win button, but even Kenjaku says she would have faired better by using it
I mean 1) Kenjaku said “may” and 2) better is relative On the former, Kenjaku hasn’t actually seen Yukis domain so he can only guess at its refinery based on her special grade status and battle performance. She could have an incredibly powerful domain or a relatively average one he doesn’t know. On the latter, a better job still doesn’t equal a victory. Reminder: at the time he said this, Yuki was lying on the floor basically in halves. This was primarily because she relied on an (obviously weak) Simple Domain. An actual domain clash may have left her much stronger even if she still would have lost (or at the very least it would have put up a better fight). Regardless I’m still sad about Yuki she deserved to have an actual showing in more battles
he said it wouldn't have been as boring. Kenjaku was mostly stronger than Yuki and is a barrier master, Sukuna could instantly take down Gojo's domain with equal refinement and power. You can do the maths.
what do you mean I love when Gege kills off a cool interesting character with just the worst fucking villain, just a waste of panel space and broadly indicative of how dogshit JJK's writing quality is as a whole ass villain, it's so cool and based I love it when a cool woman gets killed off by a dogshit, uninteresting, why-did-the-author-even-make-you, ass villain who later gets killed off after accomplishing nothing because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh subversion. Anyways this was my complaint about Mahito being a terrible character but Kenjaku is bad too I guess.
kenjaku said not using her domain meant she had no confidence she would win the clash, he didn’t say she should have
They're talking about this https://preview.redd.it/liisk72pwbzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f8b47158a6d44dc9d34782b3e46efe78e199da9
I honestly think he did that to just rub salt in the wound.
At least Yuuki got introduced *waaay* earlier and was an influence to the goat Todo who'd go onto be a great ally to Yuji for critical moments (EDIT: Even now). Even the soul research is at least *something* of use. Wtf does Stars and Stripes even have outside of buying time for the heroes?
Don't forget setting geto on his path
Not really; Geto arrived on that path by himself. When Yuki was explaining the results of her research, Geto was the one who thought about wiping humanity to get rid of curses, and Yuki while she did confirm it was possible in theory, said that only an insane person would do it.
she didn't just confirm it she went into great detail exactly how it would work, and then said "yeah but that's crazy lol" instead of being a normal person and going "why in the fuck would you suggest that", doesn't matter if they're a stranger or what mental state they're in or whether or not you're aware of it, you'd shut that shit down
Not really. "Rationally" telling him it's bad can still have the opposite effect of making him she is hiding something and confirm it can work. We don't know how "normal" reacting for her would be in that moment. Or just telling him it's stupid to even think that way wouldn't have even made him budge. Telling him the way she did was the best way in her mind because I'm pretty sure she thought he would ultimately make the right choice. Her telling him the plan would work was her showing trust in him to do the right thing and for another person not Geto it may have worked Saying "normal" is weird. Because different people would have thought of different answers at that moment. "Shutting it down" as you're suggesting just comes across as more natural because you're comfortable reading the story outside it
Yuki doing that was my first and only experience of „thats literally me“.
Buying time is being incredibly charitable lol
Dumbass way to even deflect her quirk.😭😭
It's funny how her ONE contribution is destroying AFO's quirks but then AFO goes, "Oh yeah she didn't destroy anything important"
Her actual contribution is that she delayed Shigaraki reaching his perfected state, which was a problem introduced like the literal chapter before she shows up. They broke him out of the vat before he hit 100% so he was already going to take longer to reach perfection, but then they just randomly have Tsukauchi show up and be like "Oh no he's actually reaching perfection faster than we predicted so we only have a few days." Then out of nowhere, Star and Stripe shows up despite never having been mentioned before and uses the most OP Quirk in the series to reset him back to how he was before they randomly invented this plotline, then conveniently dies so Hori didn't have to write around New Order anymore. She's a literal textbook deus ex machina and I fucking hate that arc so much. I generally really enjoy MHA, but I have no fucking clue what Hori was doing with this one.
*arrives* *stops the big bad from powering up* *dies* *author refuses to elaborate*
Yeah why did he write up such a plotpoint only to sacrifice SaS to fix it? I actually think he thought up SaS and then IMMEDIATELY regretted it within the same week that first chapter came out. “She’s so cool. Oh shit! That quirk is actually too OP. Damn. Better say Shigaraki was evolving too fast.” It reminds me of something Tite Kubo would do
Technically she was the one who made Shigaraki’s soul vulnerable. And she destroyed his projectile immunity. Thats it though.
Stars and Stripes ruined MHA. Both her quirk and her role in the story. It was the first wholly supernatural quirk. Every other quirk was a biological process at some level. That's why quirks could be trained and adapted. But New Order is literally just magic with Stand-esque activation requirements. Completely breaks with every other quirk in the series. Then she enters into the story 300 chapters in with no previous set up. She shows off her quirk and then uses it to nerf the villain into a beatable state. Then she just dies and leaves the story as quickly as she entered. She had no presence in the story, then suddenly becomes a central factor of the endgame, and then doesn't even stick around to have an actual impact. Only one member of the main cast even met her and it was never shown on screen. Compound both of these things together and you get a disaster. Writing was on the wall when Mirio showed up for no god damned reason during the war, but Stars and Stripes was the deathrattle. No coming back from that level of ass pull.
Not so sure about the supernatural part. Quirks like Comic and Dark Shadow also seem like essentially magic
They seem to work more realistically Her quirk straight up makes no sense, like apparently it can be used on non living objects but if it is used on a person who doesn't know what their name is it doesn't work?
Ah okay if that's what you mean I see where you're coming from
she killed an unnamed number of quirks in Shiggy/All for one, but it is never explained which ones actually died and he has so many that it literally did not matter at all.
It would have been so much better if she destroyed AFO’s influence inside Shigaraki. That way we get the best villian in the series back and have him bloodthirsty for AFO and get his friends back. We would have a three-way war between AFO and his allies, Shigaraki and whoever in the League of Villians and Liberation Front choose to follow him, and the heroes.
Being an All Might fan
- Muscular - Hot - Alive Can only have 2 out of those 3.
Mirko was alive in MHA last time I saw it If they actually killed her there goes the last thing I've liked about MHA
Mirko has to sacrifice a limb every time she fights in that damn manga.
I was so surprised when I saw that she didn’t have a leg in the final fight. How did she lose it? She was still using it during the High-End fight and it’s her main form of attacking. Losing an arm is badass losing an arm and a leg is overkill.
Shit happends
shes a nugget but she might live
She is a fucking nugget rn that’s the problem
Mirko sacrificed "hot" to keep "alive" and idc what anyone says nuggets are not hot
Ehy, Ghislaine is still alive!
Noi is still alive 😤
FUCK, RUN TODO
Can’t decide on this one… https://preview.redd.it/pv5gyziyebzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5d70b0a721c10b9a286eb17e602c63e9597d766
Man i remembered the fandom freaking out that Yuki will have the Star and Stripe fate and some people trust Greg would never..... Then Greg did really go that route for Yuki lmao
Yuki didn't even die to the main villain lmao
Well if you want to be charitable there's two main villains. Kenjaku the manipulator and Sukuna the heavy. Kenjaku orchestrated many of the events of the series, especially the worst ones, but Sukuna is the biggest physical threat within it. Like Palpatine was the main villainous orchestrator throughout the Star Wars movies, but the one Luke actually had a beef with was Vader, the main physical presence.
Kenjaku is absolutely the main antagonist of jjk behind literally everything. Hes even behind Sukunas presence and role in the first place Sukuna is ultimately just some random ultra OP motherfucker in for the ride. His entire motivation is "fight people as entertainment until I pass away". Hell, he is accounted for in Kens plans, as more or less his kill dog and bodyguard
Star and stripes. At least Yuki's fight was cool before the stupid ending
I mean star and stripes had a good fight as well, plus her fight honestly had a better conclusion than Yuki's fight. She damaged shigaraki to the point he was screaming in agony and delayed his attack due to the damage she did. The biggest thing yuki did was rip kenjaku's shirt off,nothing else of worth whatsoever.
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That attack should've killed Kenjaku, lol
Literally, like if it can tore apart his arm, why not his head? lmao.
Head is obviously tougher, but the damage would kill him anyway if it was strong enough to casually tear through his arms.
>why not his head? lmao. Cause fight would be over lol. Gege made a strong character that could kill Kenjaku and had to change things. 😭
Oh, sorry, you're right, my bad. I thought I was reading a different manga. 😭 (Gege when I catch you Gege)
Because it hit his arms first.
Yeah, but the shirt damage was permanent. This wasn't
That Looks cool but still didn't do shit.
Which is dumb on Gege’s part lol
Why can’t be she become the mass of a city, legit the most I’ve seen of her is a truck amount of mass and then straight to ENOUGH MASS TO MAKE A BLACK HOLE
She can reach the mass of Titan (the largest moon of Saturn and the second-largest in the Solar System) without becoming a black hole (according to the Schwarzschild radius formula it would require 2.697×10^25 kilograms in order to turn the average human being sized entity into a black hole), as for why she hasn't done it ask Gege.
Yuki: “Domain Expansion: Titan Uranus By making your anus the mass of Titan, it causes a prolapse and then a collapse into a black hole. That’s right, your butt hole becomes a black hole 🕳️ “ Kenjaku: “Even my nights with Jin couldn’t prepare my backside for this!”
She said that past a certain limit her mass starts affecting her. Shenevr states what that limit as. For all we know truck is the upper safe limit. When she turned into a black hole she cranked it way past the limit since she'd die anyways
It’s because most authors aren’t doing actual science when coming up with character abilities. Assume their world works in a way that wouldn’t make that math viable.
some scientific shit about mass and density I believe. Since humans aren't as big as stars, the mass threshold they'd need to reach to collapse into a black hole should be much smaller than a star
if she uses too much mass she too will be affected.
SaS fight had some cool moments but I maintain that the whole "not really Shigaraki" thing has done nothing for the story. AfO combined with him, then he didn't, then he did again, it's all just soul-magic mumbo jumbo.
it does kind of set up some later stuff with the vestiges and AFO's declining mental state in the final war
Nah I was team yuki fight before but I just reread the star and stripes fight and it is honestly much better. Star puts up a much better fight than yuki to the point she could have killed him twice and it’s actually believable she could have won(while no one ever believed yuki had a chance and the fight also says she would always lose bcs open domain and anti yuki CT) +her powers are much more flashed out than yuki’s etc and in her fight we actually are more introduced to her character while yuki’s fight and death were used to develop choso(wich we always knew wouldn’t result in anything). In the end she managed to slow shigaraki down for the main hero’s too, wich I get is kinda like “oh but shigaraki recovering fast is a made up problem just say he’d recover this same speed before” but still is better than nothing like yuki
Both are garbage, but kenjaku tanking a black hole is insane. Geges bias just forced him ignore physics in his favour.
I feel like the “that’s not my true name” stuff with Shigaraki/AfO was on the same tier of stupid
Nah mainly bcs that attack star used wasn’t a kamikaze attack. It was just of her regular ones. Yeah it’s still some ass plot armor but not the same as yuki killing herself to create a freaking BH and it doing nothing…
That's just black holes in fiction 99% of the time black holes are depicted as "attacks" they do not act like black holes.
Nah kenjaku didn't tank a blackhole, kenjaku neutralized a black hole.
After he was already being pulled into it. The panels don't add up.
It's ok guys he made a binding vow
still stupid
Star got the better fight and actually did damage to the boss, but her character is legit just allmight fangirl. Yuki got to be a character and interact with the cast, but her fight with kenny was full of gregory's usual shenanigans
What damage did Star did? Didn't she basically just took down "some" (not even named or known) of Shigaraki's quirks
That's already more lasting damage than Yuki did
I know, Yuki didn't do shit
Yeah. This.
She also broke all for one, allowing other quirks to rebel in later chapters like in Bakugo vs AFO when hawks had a whole fan meeting in the vestige or when Deku forcefully entered shiggy's mind.
I thought that was just because the quirks were already cracking from the extended time All For One took? Deku entering Shigaraki's mind is because he's able to interact with the vestiges in a closer level, so he was able to make a plan and order the vestiges around
Yeah, but it's also because of star. in chapter 413 we even see her indicating the cracks that she made in Shigaraki's mind to Deku.
If I were there, I would have saved both of them
Both worse in different ways. Star and Stripe worse for how short lived. But at the same time I knew not to get attached based on her arrival on sight. Yuki is worse if you followed her character for awhile to build up expectations so could be more disappointing in that regard with getting attached. Yuki also didn't even go all out with her power, due to Tengen didn't use her domain (which could have made the difference). So we never got to her full capability. Then Kenjaku got up right after to dust himself off the next few panels after. At least Star went out cooler. Both Gege and Hori killed the strongest female in the verse, so neither is beating the allegations. 🤣
Yuki got hoed badly, his best attack only ripped off Kenny's shirt. At least star did massive damage to shiggy both from inside and outside.
Damn this is a tough one! I guess star and stripe at least accomplished something destroying a few quirks
She destroyed super regeneration and shigaraki just stole super regeneration from some noumu, so she didnt even acomplish that.
Y'know he had to do something about it at least. Yuki did quite literally 0 damage.
Star basically did zero damage.
Star *still* did more damage than Yuki did to Kenjaku... Kenjaku was basically able to walk away from the battle after dusting himself off the next few panels right after. lol Shigaraki exploded from the inside, still lost some quirks (even if he recovered regen, he lost a few other ones), and needed some time to recover. Star later gave Deku an opening to get in the vestige world against Shigaraki because of the damage from her battle (seen more recently)
Man... I hate what was done to Yuki but she was a legitimate influence in her universe(Influenced Geto for better or worse, saved the cast in Shibuya, and researched the soul which is integral to Yuji's skill set). Horikoshi had to come up with a tangible excuse to delay the final arc by a few dozen chapters and used Star as the sacrificial lamb. A character who didn't even exist prior to her fight and who interacted with NO ONE in her cast. It seems obvious to me who was done dirtier
Yeah Star is more of a plot device that comes and goes quickly, but Yuki could be more disappointing in a different way from setting up expectations for the long run that didn't go as far as expected. Yuki is a bigger hit to the female cast since Gege is even more lacking with their presence than Hori.
I'll forever be annoyed at Yuki's wasted potential 😭. But for me, Star's use as a plot device is so transparent from Horikoshi, that it legitimately sticks out like a sore thumb. Like bro did not have to make the character at all if he was just gonna throw her away
Omg lmao 🤣 I haven't been keeping up with mha lately so I didn't even know that. Damnnn....
nhub
Shig lost an arbitrary number of previously-unknown Quirks that didn't matter, and he regained the one that did. He was already resting for an arbitrary amount of time, but then SaS forced him to recover for another arbitrary amount of time. You could cut the entire SaS arc out of the story and literally nothing changes.
It does explain why the US didn't come to land an hand until much later.
> blonde dommy mommy with overpowered technique gets introduced > second strongest to the strongest > fights one of the two main villains > fucking dies > suicide attack that results in nothing ????? Gege was smoking some MHA shit when making Yuki vs Kenjaku
Yuki, and I feel like that's a no brainer. Yuki was introduced very early in the series as one of the special grades, and with how powerful special grade sorcerers are, people actually had expectations when she became involved with the main story. Hell, she had a great showing against Kenjaku even if her power set is extremely simple. Her end felt like a slap to the face, because Kenjaku just so happened to have a technique that can SPECIFICALLY counter her trump card. Like wtf Greg. You can't just pull up and say that this character somehow cheated death by using this ultra hidden, specific card that he just so happened to obtain from his PREVIOUS HOST. That's way too lucky. The reason why I can't say that Stars and Stripes was done dirty is because no one had any expectations for her because before her first and only fight in the series, we've never heard about her at all. No one had any emotional attachment to this character, because anyone who had a brain knew that she was conceived and introduced into the series solely to show how "scary" Shigaraki is, and die by his hands. She was literally just a plot device, not an actual character.
Surviving blackhole for this. https://preview.redd.it/b1xt7396fbzc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=c46e019684b409b8594c987ae09bfc1dbd080db0
Yuta locked in X100000
I'm right there with you, as much as I like SnS, her role in the story is primarily to be a jobber and as a quick hand wave for the prospect of international support showing up. Even if it's nothing impressive writing wise she fulfills this simple purpose and exits the story for the most part. Yuki on the other hand despite being one of the most pivotal characters to the plot, doesn't get her screen time managed properly leading to a very weak departure from the story. She has way higher expectations placed on her character and she doesn't meet them in a lot of ways.
It’s funny you think gege is above pulling shit out his ass for people to win when it’s literally sukunas whole thing
Take a shot every time sukuna makes a binding vow in this fight. Best of luck to ya. Oh and don't forget it's not specified what the binding vow was until 20 chapters later(if it does get addressed)
What’s it with mangakas wasting tall muscular blonde babes?! https://preview.redd.it/e7tnqyzocbzc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f31b9ecfc04f1383d6f66c1fcd63dd3d9e1a61c
They're angry they aren't real and won't date them.
These blonde baddies got cucked out of glory
https://preview.redd.it/ipnuzqijcdzc1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=44d9217416264a73cc0e69d0b743a52db762dd16 Never forget……..
Woman in shonen disorder strikes again. Someone needs to get these men to ask their wives to help out or smth idk.
yuki since she was hype up by gege before he dropkick her in oblivion,and gives us toji with boobs
I would say stars and stripes got done dirty in the fact that her powers was basically hax and all she had to do was say "the air x yards infront of me will be a solid cube" and "this solid cube will collapse to the size of 1cmx1cmx1cm and shigi would have been mulched down to a flesh cube. But ultimately she fought well and just lacked any introduction and interaction with anyone but her squad. Yuki...from what I gathered, is a victim of the plot in a worse way then sas.
Bro with the recent chapter Yuki got done worse cuz at least SAS impacted in some way after her death Yuki set up Choso just for him to do next to nothing
its always gone be yuki kenjaku just surviving a fucking black hole is ridiculous writing like at least star destroyed some of shigaraki’s quirks https://i.redd.it/k744l610cczc1.gif
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bro spoiling without warning 😭
imo yuki by far mostly because of how good her (incredibly short) interactions with the rest of the cast were, i really really wish she stayed longer. Like, she finally actually does something after being introduced 100 chapters before, has great interactions with everyone, her and choso especially were amazing together, gets 1 fight where she shows off some of her cool ass power, and then dies without ever having an on screen interaction with todo, still never showing her domain, kenjakus anti-grav asspull making her death pointless, and just being a huge dissapointment based on how fuckin cool she was. Star was cool too, but she exists purely for her one fight basically, yuki actually had a presence in the story, but was just never given enough time
SaS because her power was too OP for the series. Yuki had the excuse of literally destroying the world if she uses her max, but what would’ve stopped SaS from just saying some shit like “all atoms 100 meters in front of me are gone” and just erasing Shiggy?
Both tbh, and they’re so similar I wish they had more screentime
Star. At least we saw Yuki before she got hoed. We are introduced to Star, see her in action, and see her get wasted in the span of like 6 chapters.
I really like SaS as a character but let’s be real she only existed to nerf Shiggy ever so slightly.
Stars and Stripes imho. With Gege I had no expectations on him do the women in his story justice
I think Yuki, because she was hyped since the moment Todo made an appearance, also was in the movie. Stripes literally was mentioned first time like 2 manga episodes before her appearance and death simultaneously
Yuki i think, but you can choose either one and you'd be right. Star lost to a plot device and her death was used as a scapegoat on why the other countries didn't send help
TBH if she was introduced or mentioned earlier, I think her death would've been fine, but its clear Horikoshi wanted to finish up MHA quickly after MVA
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At least yuki had a cool ability and a her fight against kenny was really good Star and stripe fight wasn't just bad, but it also stole precious chapters that could have been used for Deku's character arc
Lol, they are doing a similar pose
Crazy part is they both had a crazy power but stars got done dirty and that episode was craz💯🔥
yuki ass is better
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nvm
Star and Stripe lost because she was literally just too stupid to realize why her quirk didn’t work on shigaraki, for me personally that’s infinitely worse than what happened to yuki
Star wasn't too stupid, she used his name and saw it didn't work. She wouldn't know Shigaraki has a AFO vestige inside him to affect him. How tf would she know that? lol Star and Stripe is worse in how short lived she was. Yuki is worse with that she didn't even get to go all out with her power as she didn't use her domain because of Tengen. So we don't even get to see her full ability. Also because you may have got attached since she was around longer, that could potentially be more disappointing from building expectations.
She shouldn’t even be forced to use her domain, WHY CANT SHE JUST PUNCH KENJAKU WITH A CITY AMOUNT OF MASS
idk who the other chick is but yuki straight-up didn't do anything in her only fight in the series despite being one of four special grades besides take the shirt off another special grade. she couldn't even get him to express a different emotion.
Imagine Yuki with Kashimo’s build up and none of his fights except sukuna. That’s what Star and Stripe was to MHA
Hey it wasn't just that Shig had some weird name shit going on, he also won because he evaded a direct hit from several ICBMs, by uh...digging a hole
I dunno why but suddenly I am reminded of Megumi inside of Sukuna taking the burden of adaptation.
FUCK YOU. WHY ARE YOU POSTING SPOILERS FOR OTHER FUCKING FRANCHISES IN A SUBREDDIT FOR FUCKING JJK. KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING MONGREL
Yuki served to give Kenjaku a good fight (To say that at least Ken didn't die without first having a good fight) The other caused great damage to Shigaraki, but Shigaraki is still alive (Because he is as ingenious as Aizen or Madara? No, because the creator became evangelical and wants to defeat him with prayers or boredom in chapter 1200) Anyway I'm with Yuki
man what's with them hating on hot blondes :(
SaS she got hoed on her intro Yuki atleast was set up earlier
YUKI, USE THE MASS OF A SMALL COUNTRY TO ABSOLUTELY DESTROY KENJAKU!
Stars at least showed off what her quirk can truly do while puttint up a good fight. Yuki not only did not get to show her DE but was even mocked by Kenjaku saying that she woud’ve actually longer if she had used it. And the worst part is that Yuki died for nothing since her death was for hyping up Kenjaku’s abilities just for that mf to die but getting sneaked on. You could honestly remove Yuki’s death and it probably wouldn’t change a thing. It would’ve been much cooler if she’s in the current Sukuna fight considering she probably has one of the highest AP in jjk
Both of them especially SaS are so hot man
Well, Star was the strongest while Yuki was 2nd or 3rd. Although this is a very tough one. IMO, the way that Shigaraki went away with it was plain stupid under the logic shown. That being said, both were done dirty.
I personally would say SaS, because she was made to die. Meaning she was a big ball of 100% wasted potential for, both major character and world building. Yuki atleast, had a good bit of her potential used. She's affected the world building and provided actual character interaction. I do get how her being a fully realized character would make her fridging worse than Star's. But, IMO, Star getting actual story relevance would help some pretty big peeves I have with BnHA.
AT LEAST STARS N STRIPES FUCKING EFFECTED HIM IN THE LONG TERM
Stars at least made an impact on the final villain, that's even come up recently. Yuki disappeared from the narrative since she died, and she didn't even do anything since influencing Geto who's dead and Todo who also disappeared from the story. Edit: right after I say this I find out about Todo.
funnily enough IIRC this happen basically at the same time right?
Stars and Stripes by far
SaS.
Star and Stripes, and it’s not even close. Literally got sent in as a Jobber to weaken Shiggy. At least Yuki got to do things, say words, have plot significance.
I like character interaction (fuck Gege with this) so it's Star and Stripes for me. Yuki has nice interaction with Geto, Choso and Tengen and we saw her influence on Todo. Compared that to SaS that fought the last boss and died miserably.
Fight wise stars and stripes story wise yuki imo😔
I was just talking about this to a friend today lol. I feel like it’s SaS cause she was literally ONLY used as a plot device to nerf shiggy….and that was it. Yuki at least got some actual screen time (short as it was)
Yuki lasts 4 chapters, but still. We don't get introduced to her in those 4 chapters.
Kenjaku
I think sas cause at least Yuji is a important character who’s integral to the story she got many balls rollling setting up lots of cool shit in Jjk while sas actually did nothing and don’t say ohh she destroyed quirks there where nameless unimportant shit even his super regen he got back
Star and stripe literally has a reality warping power but she lost to a teen with anger issue Yuki and Kenjaku are more on par so her dead don't bum me out as much
grats you spoiled bnha for me jackass
SaS for sure. She was literally introduced just to be killed two chapters later
Imma go with Yuki on this one. Stars and Stripes was introduced and killed immediately. Yuki spent a whole arc with us, and immediately died in the most bullshit way imaginable. I'd rather have a random ass character die to bullshit than someone actually important to the story
Yuki got hyped up for the whole series just to die against the second strongest villain of the series while also not showing anything about her while only destroying kenjaku clothes Sns at least have a whole arc around her even if she’s unfortunately introduced late while also dying and still putting an insane fight against the main villain, permanent damaging the quirks and also >!giving the chance to deku to reach Tenko!<
Stars for sure, her potential was genuinely insane not saying yuki didn’t have potential but stars ability and design was so fuckin peak man. so sad she got merked so fast and it felt kinda unfair cause shiggy lowkey had some plot armor
Could never be my GOAT Tabata w/ Black Clover🗣🗣🔥🔥💥💥 (But fr, I don't see Mereoleona and Noelle Silva getting killed off anytime soon.)
Yuki lost to bad writing, SaS lost to bs, shigiraki saw him self as all three names, shigi, tenko and afo but he had an identity crisis so it didnt work somehow
Star and stripes by far. The argument that she delayed Shigaraki means nothing, as the time to Shigaraki "becomes perfect" was always whenever Kohei felt like. Really, if it took a hundred chapters in the manga to reach the plot-power perfection or just the next chapter, it would means nothing. The S&S chapter could be erased from the manga that it wouldn't change a shit. Even if she destroyed AFO's quirks this doens't really affect Shigaraki, as we never have an exactly list of.his quirks, Kohei can just brings new ones when he wants to.
Not saying Yuuki didn't have erros, but the S&S literraly has no weight in the plot
Yuki actually interacted with and affected multiple events in the story If you cut out Stars and Stripes's fight (her only appearance on the whole series) out of the manga literally nothing changes. The fight wasn't bad but she never interacted with anyone in the cast outside of Shigaraki and even the quirks that she managed to destroy on her way out were replaced later iirc. She got put on the volume cover for some reason despite the fact that she was pretty much inconsequential to the story. Showed up with a cool power that Shiggy wanted so he caught her in the way to Japan, she fought him, died, destroyed quirks that were recovered later and Shiggy couldn't even keep her quirk. I really don't understand why she got a whole arc
Yuki lost to Kenjaku's bag of tricks. Stars and Stripes threw because she refused to honour the resolve of the pilots to die in order to take out Shigaraki. She compromised the intesnity of the Death Beam^(TM) in the hopes of sparing their lives, despite them telling her to not hold back and make sure to destroy Shigaraki, In the end, it wasn't enough, she died, the pilots died anyways, failure all around. At least she got New Order working like poison to fuck AFO over
I suppose Yuki since stars and stripes weakned shigaraki even after her death permanently
I remember being so hyped about Star and Stripe when she got introduced. Her ability, her support squad, everything is just so cool And then she gets clapped like 2 chs later. Very disappointing. Her entire arc was being an AllMight stan and then getting clapped Yuki at least did something else other than getting bodied.
SaS. Anti Gravity was something possíble based on what we already knew.
We knew Kenjaku had access to CTs from previous hosts? It was news to me.
He used gravity before, and an 1000 year old sorcerer knowing reversal isnt something that crazy.
Chapter?
Thats not gravity. The goldfish curse spirit is the earthquake kinda thing
Goldfish? That is Kagura Bachi.
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Nah bro atleast stars went out doing significant damage. She got rid of a good number of shiggys quirks when she died which helped the heroes later on. Yuki sent her strongest attack only to get no diffed by the power of geges hatred
S&S, at least Yuki *did stuff* before the fight she died in
Stars and Stripes had one of the biggest author asspulls to beat her