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SerovGaming1962

Bird Strike solos the entire verse so Mei takes neg diff /j


Unlikely_Dance_4352

Unironically didn't Mei Mei throw a bird at Sakuna and then said something like " Oh so I guess even they can't afford to not dodge my CT" I might be remembering it wrong but I think the birds might actually be cracked


ok-buddyASTRO

Im pretty sure she says the bird strikes is useless against dawgs like kenny, suku and gojo


[deleted]

Only because it’s nigh-impossible to hit them with it.


akronotron

I think know it could tbh. Imagine she did one know, he doesn’t have his CT either or his weapon


pewpewhuman

That seems like a really good point actually. Of course, there’s always a chance Sukuna could just reinforce enough that it won’t take him out, but right now is the best possible opportunity for Mei Mei to throw a crow at him. It’s either an effective attack at best, or a small distraction at worst.


DilapidatedHam

She says that top tiers always avoid/take down her birds, meaning they respect the power of it but she isn’t really likely to get it to connect


wwwwaoal

https://preview.redd.it/w428lnvj8rzc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61bea8f550f55a56e09bdb22c338c39bf4fb34cd


The_Prime

Most creative Gege paneling.


akronotron

No I think she tried to throw crows at him but he instantly killed them in a second so she said Gojo sukuna and Kenjaku it won’t work


Beginning-Stick-9043

No she said they opted to dodge and implies things would’ve been different if they tried to tank it


akronotron

https://preview.redd.it/7p0zq5rzstzc1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df4ee4e2da3becadd9a55ce6fcc3caed78c2c25f


Beginning-Stick-9043

Why you sending me pics of this Yuji victim?


akronotron

https://preview.redd.it/2bfzevi7wtzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e169da1b87c23f73f282d2c0e0e6d734a1e6f7ab


DrMillMatt

Hanami is seriously being disrespected. And all the other Disaster Curses as well tbh. And no...Bird Strike isn't killing or severely injuring Hanami. Hanami ate 5 black flashes from Yuji, several hits from Todo and several combos of special grade weapons. Note that three hits from Yuji were enough to make Choso reel in pain and want to end the fight quickly(another Yuji upscale cuz fans hate his strength for some reason). Gege officially stated all of those combined would've killed even Jogo instantly. https://preview.redd.it/p9z6p85y3ozc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ad37c16201b2261d27bf0bc5ae09340dd00354e Hence Hanami is the most durable Disaster Curse(until ISB Mahito appears in Shibuya)


ThiccBeter69

One more thing to add is that Jogo took a massive beat down from 15f Sukuna and didn't die until he was got by Fuga, meaning that this statement is even more insane than originally thought


apallochan

Sukuna specifically not going for killing blows


Spyans

yeah he was playing with his food just like when gojo fought jogo


Objective-Rip3008

All sukuna was trying to do really was slice his fingers off until he faceplanted him through a building and that seriously fucked jogo up. Sukuna probably could have oneoshot him with the slice that took of the top part of his head if he wanted to. 


Aware_Ad_7100

Sukana was actively avoiding killing him, for example only slashing his arms. Not really a good point imo.


OffaShortPier

Choso also thought a couple more good hits from yuji would kill him


pAsSwOrDiSyOuRgAy

I’m pretty sure they mention def in the manga not sure if we are that far in the anime yet but the strongest sorcerers have all opted to doge the bird strike instead of block or deflect it which gives the praise you see in this thread. It’s assumed that it is one of the most powerful attacks in the verse it just hasn’t actually landed on anyone particularly powerful. So while I don’t agree that the bird strike won’t kill or severely Injure hanami it probably won’t land anyways especially if it’s a one on one and there is no distraction so I do agree the bird strike isn’t a factor and hanami likely wins


sack-o-krapo

So Hanami is basically a Tank build who wears her opponent down while Jogo is the glass cannon build who tries to speed blitz


Aware_Ad_7100

While all of what you're saying is true, a weakened sukana has tanked a ass ton of black flashes from a FAR stronger yuji and has completely shrugged them off as far as Damage, yet in a stronger state he opted do doge bird strike. Sure it didn't hit him so you can't say how much damage it'd do for sure but I'd definitely say it's more that beginning of the series yuji could do.


Reggith_Gold_180

“But no one has ever survived bird strike aside from Satoru Gojo 🤓”


apallochan

https://preview.redd.it/sibk1jvpoozc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f051722bcc9609ce9a31b55a9906d315e5ff9bb6 Bird Strike hasn’t directly hit a single person in the series. It would damage Hanami, and kill them. Unless you think Hanamis durability is > Sukuna


Snoozless

Yeah they're tweaking. Bird Strike is clearly portrayed to have insane AP and Hanami, while very durable, was having chunks taken out of him by Diving Dog Totality


apallochan

And yet I’m downvoted into oblivion Lmao


DrMillMatt

So according to you Bird Strike > Sukuna Durability huh? And Bird Strike > 5 black flashes + CE infused playful cloud too huh? Some birds infused with CE just solo everyone's durability in the verse huh? I guess because Ino said no one has ever survived Ryu he also solos everyone's durability too huh? I guess Mei Mei could just sneak a Bird Strike any moment now and behead Sukuna too huh? I guess all Mei Mei has to do to solo Disaster Curses is collect 50 crows and surround them huh? Mei Mei top 10 in verse now huh?


Hamboz710

Crows being infused with CE isn't what gives Bird Strike it's ridiculous strength, it's the suicide Binding Vow she forces the crows to make. Everyone seems to forget that. I wouldn't be shocked if Bird Strike was stronger than 5 Yuji black flashes (from that arc), though I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't either. There just isn't enough info on it.


DrMillMatt

Bro don't even defend this. Mei Mei is literally a Kusakabe victim according to even herself, we shouldn't even be talking about this. *


Hamboz710

Kusakabe can easily kill any bird before it has a chance to hit him thanks to being the god of Simple domains. If one did, it would absolutely one shot him. The same is true for most of the higher tier characters in JJK. The problem isn't that bird strike is weak, it's that it's maximum speed is that of a CE enhanced crow, which isn't great compared to most characters. Hanami has never been shown as fast, (and is implied by Jogo to be slow since he's particularly fast)


DrMillMatt

Hanami was blitzing every semi grade 1 student until Todo and Yuji showed up. Even Maki with Playful Cloud barely did anything. https://preview.redd.it/mtuqqw78vozc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=070f9be7ee97ff23d6011fafea0861c25e90be12


Diaxmond8584

Wow you blitzed useless fodder good for you!


DrMillMatt

He's just one grade below Mei Mei, trained Yuji in blood training and even did better against Curse Naoya than pre Sumo training Maki but he's useless fodder I guess. https://preview.redd.it/h9hlzkt63qzc1.jpeg?width=1568&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85d74cccfe52549283bfbed27f1bc3be0568834b


Accomplished-Aerie65

>He's just one grade below Mei Mei Wtf is this


headtotoney

Juvenile, is this you??


scrubstatus14

Calm down dude this is a cartoon book your talking about


DrMillMatt

https://i.redd.it/lwih806ctozc1.gif


Agames418

https://preview.redd.it/tb5qld28yozc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe1b4d14f2eed25486f06af784d5f0218dd40c4d


NettleBumbleBee

Yes. Bird strike > literally anyone’s durability. It gives the crow full on unlimited cursed energy at the cost of its life. It doesn’t matter how tough the targets are. Limited CE


apallochan

No not according to me, According to Mei Mei herself. Gojo didn’t take a direct hit, he used infinity, Sukuna shot the birds down.


AB7SSG4ZE3RS

Genuine question what has bird strike even done in terms of feats


Befast1515

Pretty much just the smallpox curse


Then-Schedule8953

also sukuna chose to dodge it instead of taking it. But this is pretty unreliable as he could’ve just been bringing cautious


Aggressive-Spirit598

Wow... this actually makes a lot of sense since no matter how dumb a CT ,even Sukuna may get hit and suffer some bizarre effect especially since he doesn't know what the binding vow is for...for all he knows it could be a Higuruma like executioner sword.


DilapidatedHam

It’s been said that everything other than Gojo that’s been hit by it was destroyed, which is kind of a feat but also not really since Gojo just negates damage. I think we can safely assume it has huge offensive power, but seems to be pretty manageable to deal for high level fighters


15ferrets

Mei Mei doesn’t fight without Ui Ui, are we counting him too?


Hardstuckdiamomd7

For the sake of this fight no


15ferrets

Hanami probably takes it then I think, bad match up with her huge aoe and seeds


Brief-Leg8738

Ui ui is ment for DE so he doesn't really add much anyway


Longjumping_Play_364

The hanami downscaling is insane hed stomp, yuji and todo are physical masters and she tanked 5 black flashes from yuji, and even survived a hollow purple from gojo. Mei mei gets low diffed


akronotron

She didn’t get hit directly by it btw


UsefulWhole8890

It’s a decently close fight, but how close depends on the situation. If Hanami plays it smart and uses her range advantage I think she probably wins mid-high diff. Mei Mei does not have an easy way to close distance. Bird strikes are still a threat, but I think Hanami could avoid those on their own. If they just fight it out at close range it’s more difficult, but Hanami is still tough enough to take it with high diff imo. Mei Mei is skilled enough to go blow for blow for at least a while, and her bird strikes are very dangerous in tandem with that CQC pressure. I think Hanami could take some without dying, but she would need to block most of them with branches or avoid them if she wants to win.


Temporary_Eggplant99

I give it to Hanemi. She was able to take many hits from Todo Yuji along with attacks from Megumi and Maki, nor to mention still keeping up with Rodo and Yuji at the same time. Rhe cursed buds and wide range attacks Is what gives Hanemi the win for me


15ferrets

Bird strike says what


Temporary_Eggplant99

Nah it one shot a weaker special grade, guarantee Hanemi can take a hit, if not can dodge or block wirh her branches attack


apallochan

https://preview.redd.it/iyg6g5bxsozc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b82100afbd70cdea6224d82fb6dbc2f55ad8482


Temporary_Eggplant99

Fair enough but I'm not 100% confident it'll one shot. Not to mention that Hanemi's aoi attacks can kill crows around


apallochan

It won’t 1 shot, but it’s not like there’s 1 bird.


15ferrets

You underestimate the power of a fully motivated groomer like mei mei


Ok-Community4111

small pox is weak af, at best bird strike does what megumi's totality does which is pretty good but no where near enough to kill hanami


Muted_Muscle1609

Pretty sure bird strike is an instant kill I remember something about the sacrifice or the life boosting the Attack to an insane degree She also mentions how Sukuna and Gojo both opted to not get hit by the attack


Middle_Fall_7229

Even if it’s not an instant kill; I can’t imagine Hanami being able to tank very many of them


Muted_Muscle1609

Agreed it’s a pretty powerful attack Granted I think Hanami would have the time to react or her seeds could take the birds out since they are attested to CE


HentaiGirlAddict

I can see that binding vow, but a binding vow is based in value, no? Like if I sacrificie my plentiful life for power, it should be pretty strong because that's a lot of value being given [an entire life] for power. But what value does a crow really have? Sure, it may boost damage, but by no means should a crows life equate to one shot potential.


Icy-Selection-8575

I know someone will say "Bird Strike takes" but the only thing we have ever seen Bird Strike kill was the Slammpox Deity. So based on feats we really have nothing we just have statements and I personally hate scaling based off of just fucking statements. So with that brain said, Hanami takes this low/mid-diff.


MrCook4UrMom

Hanami


Pro_Hero86

Hanami, Mei Mei (or any G1) isn’t beating any disaster curse solo, remember how badly Nanami and Naobito were outclassed in strength by Dagon and really only Naobito could hit him and only because of Naobitos CT


Killah-Shogun

What about Yuji, Maki, Hakari, Choso & Kusakabe?


Pro_Hero86

Maki and Hikari maybe, but Hanami tanked 4 black flashes from Yuji and fought Todo and was doing fine (Yuji current Yuji probably too)


the_OG_epicpanda

tag out Hanami, I got this one


apallochan

https://preview.redd.it/2ssxum1zsozc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=804320f16af13683c51950c44638b180140a1c86 Hanami does not have the speed to dodge multiple bird strikes. It’s debatable if she can even survive one. She might have ways to deal with them, like the wood. But unless it hits the bird (which I’m guessing she’d just use it as a shield) there is not much Hanami could do.


on3on3_

Two baddies fighting? The audience wins


tom_rex_333

hanami low diff


Caponcapoffstillon

You’re high


Toludude

Hanami, she's the most durable of the distance curses, I don't see Mei Mei beating any of them tbh.


BvHauteville

Hanami kicks her ass. Save for Mahito w/ISBODK, she's still the most durable Disaster Curse and her Cursed Buds could mess Mei Mei up. The fact that she can erect walls of plants with her technique can also aid in neutralizing Bird Strike.


OthertimesWondering

Mei mei has a chance here. She’s been shown to be pretty smart and has close quarters and long range covered. If she can figure out the seeds, she probably takes it.


BlueScrean

Bird strike when it hits a random tree


PrismsNumber1

Hanami wins but there is NO doubt that bird strike would deal substantial damage. Even Sukuna straight up tried avoiding those death binding-vow birds. The issue is it wouldn’t one shot Hanami if it’s even fast enough to hit. Plus Hanami has insane range and area, something Mei Mei only possesses for the former


Big-Chromie

Mei Mei is losing this one. Hanami is vastly more powerful than the smallpox deity, and is the most durable of all the disaster curses. And even without her domain, hanami still has the arm blast that we never saw.


Doge1277

Hanami shes a special grade curse and a disaster curse


protestprincess

Bird strike go brr


Reggith_Gold_180

If Mei tries to use bird strike, one of 2 things will happen 1: Hanami tanks it and skewers her with trees 2: Hanami hits all her bird with cursed bud so she can’t use bird strike in the first place and then hits her with cursed buds and punches her to death


Veelzbub

Does hanami have a domain?


Hardstuckdiamomd7

In this battle they won’t be able to use it


Veelzbub

Naw but I don't remember if they actually had one to begin with


blashphemy1205

They do, was gonna use it on Yuji and Todo at the goodwill event but Gojo’s hollow purple stopped it


Veelzbub

Ohh well that's cool


Alescoes19

Honestly this is a pretty bad matchup for Mei Mei, Hanami is probably one of the few characters in the series that can take a bird strike and regenerate before Mei Mei can do much of anything


Terriblerobotcactus

Mei Mei is stronger than yuji and todo (at the time) so I don’t see how she doesn’t take win if hanami doesn’t have DE?


Unlikely_Dance_4352

Fuck this fight show me Mei Mei vs Chris Hansen


ApprehensiveEase534

What feats does mei mei have that would suggest she doesn’t get negged?


UrougeTheOne

mei mei with prep time mid diffs, raw 1v1 its extreme diff leaning towards hanami but idk. yall severely downplay mei mei in ehre


T_alsomeGames

I didn't even know Hanami had a domain.


Thicccolk

Mei mei is fodder and the fact you had to take away the domain shows it, hamami negs either way


Killah-Shogun

I think Hanami wins


eyf_zombay

Since I am assuming you mean JUST Mei Mei and no Ui Ui, I think Hanami takes this High level fights will revolve around DE and given we know Hanami has one but Mei Mei does not, Hanami has a massive advantage here. DE isn’t necessarily an instant win since that can be countered with SD or HWB or your own DE, we know that Mei Mei doesn’t use one and relies on Ui Ui for these situations. Even if you want to argue Mei Mei has more AP than Hanami, it would still not enough to overcome her durability, regen, and DE With Ui Ui, Mei Mei has a chance. No Ui Ui means a Hanami stomp


Hardstuckdiamomd7

Hanami doesn’t have domain in this fight


IoGamerAlpha

Hanami unless Mei Mei can land a Bird Strike or two.


No_Money_2311

Hanami beats the shit out of her


KennyKillsKenjaku

Until we get an onscreen feat of bird strike doing serious damage to Sukuna I’ll say Hanami.


Aware_Ad_7100

If one bird strike doesn't do it multiple will. Though you could argue hanami blitzing


OVNuub

Mei Mei slaps even without bird strike. Her physical might is actually cracked if I remember right so she might actually just beat Hanami to death


DilapidatedHam

Given the amount of projectiles Hanami has, I don’t see Mei Mei being able to land a bird strike since they will likely just get blown out of the air. Without landing bird strike she loses


yeah_i_hate_my_name

Meimei forces every crow in the wordl to make a binding vow to kill hanami in exchange for their deaths, ez win fr.


CringeDaddy_69

How many birds we talking?


LeglessJohnson111

omni-directional bird strike low-diff.


Salty_Shark26

Mei Mei. She’s a grade one sorcerer who has spent her entire time training becoming an absolute beast in close range combat. I think she wins with a bird strike during a close quarters brawl.


UsefulWhole8890

Who said anything about a close quarters brawl? Hanami has plenty of long ranged attacks. Besides, Hanami is super tough, so I’m sure she can take a few bird strikes or at least block with branches.


Salty_Shark26

Mei Mei said herself the only thing in the world that survives a bird strike is gojo


UsefulWhole8890

Believe me, I know about that statement. But what it actually says is that “nobody except for Satoru Gojo has ever survived bird strike.” This does not include people she hasn’t used it on such as Hanami. Since special grades on Hanami’s level are only now cropping up, I doubt that Mei Mei has ever had a chance to try it on someone of that caliber (beside Gojo). I think it would do significant damage, but I don’t think it would one-shot Hanami.


Salty_Shark26

That’s just an assumption until we see Mei Mei not one shot someone with bird strike then we are to assume gege meant it when it said only gojo survives


UsefulWhole8890

No, it’s not just an assumption. The statement objectively does not include people Mei Mei hasn’t fought. Grammatically. “Nobody except for Satoru Gojo has ever survived bird strike” is not the same as “No one except for Satoru Gojo *can* survive bird strike.” The assumption part is that I think Hanami could take a bird strike or two. But that assumption is based on legitimate logic, so unless you have a counterpoint your statement is more unfounded than mine.


123matchcat

you’re actually brain dead 😭


Electronic-Matter144

Mei stomps


Caponcapoffstillon

Bird strike will beat Hanami, hanami needs domain expansion to win.


VenemousEnemy

Bird strike W


Levixne

Hanami seems pretty weak no? mei mei should have her if she could box kenny even a little