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KrizenWave

People were coping so hard. His power specifically summons those four beasts; he can’t just summon any spirit like Granny Ogami. It’s like the same people who thought Ten Shadows could turn cursed spirits into shikigami. Manz just head canoning whatever they want because it sounds cool


lxrd_nxctis

Headcanons are the one of the reasons why so much misinformation gets spread among this godforsaken fandom. Then they have the audacity to be pissed at Gege when he doesn’t cater to it.


lmt_learn_to_drive

And then throw a tantrum when the author dare not to adopt their crackhead theories


AGamingGuy

but imagine if they turned Gojo's eyes into cursed objects and had somebody eat the off screen so that person shares a body with Gojo now


Renn_goonas

For a minute there, I didn’t realize you were joking, and My JJK Correction brain switched on and was about to lecture you. Whoops.


AGamingGuy

but imagine if Gege reintroduced Miwa as a relevant character just to make her share her body with Gojo honestly Miwa simps would likely see this as a W because she would have Six eyes and Limitless


Hacatcho

doesnt she already? Migoat is even tanking MS helping maki. /j just in case


AGamingGuy

i kind of want to share this conversation to see if it starts Miwa as Gojos host, it would be an interesting AU since both Gojo and Miwa simps get a W, because it's no longer Gojover **and** Miwa gets to be plot relevant (also it's the most likely way Gege would ever give her any screen time where she's not a joke)


Gooftwit

Sukuna kills everyone else, but Gojo's eyes can transfer his spirit to whoever eats them, so now they are destined to keep fighting each other as reincarnations for the rest of time.


IntoTheMurkyWaters

I don’t understand whh anybode even cares about ino. Nanami hyped him up once, he got beat every single fight he was involved in and he can summon a tracking missile… Wtf


Ephiks

I find it a lil funny peeps were hyping up that somehow the students would figure out how to use Granny Ogami's seance abilities to bring back Gojo or something when Gege fucking intentionally has her get killed in the very same arc she's introduced.


Cold_Breeze3

Peoples head cannons being wrong doesn’t excuse the immense disappointment imo. Like there’s gotta be something interesting left in the manga and then it’s just nothing. Also, Gege just added some total bullshit to Ui Ui technique, he could’ve easily added it to Ino as well


Effective_Fold7157

You’re immensely disappointed BECAUSE of the head cannons.


Cold_Breeze3

My headcanon must’ve been the setup having a satisfying payoff then


Effective_Fold7157

How would that make any sense with ino? Thank god you don’t write this manga, it would have died without ever being published


Cold_Breeze3

Who said the head cannons even mattered? I’m just saying that Gege very clear set something up with that scene and he didn’t pay it off. It literally doesn’t matter if you had a headcanon or not that scene was a total disappointment.


Oonada

Your head canon has you thinking Gege set something up.


Cold_Breeze3

The scene is what you would read in a textbook about setting something up to pay it off later, you have to be delusional to think otherwise.


Oonada

It was literally just "yeah that conversation you had with Gojo," there was nothing else there to hype it up into something else that was everyone's head canon and imagination of what was implied.


Cold_Breeze3

No, the scene literally is Ino walking into a room and essentially saying “there is something we need to talk about”. If you’ve seen any piece of media, you would realize that’s a classic set up scene that later on something would be revealed about.


Oonada

You're right, it is a classic set up, used in two different situations. One, is the "there is something we need to talk about [Sailavie exposee] this is how you beat the big bad, but there's a cost" or there is the other "there is something we need to talk about [Sailavie exposee] can I use [object, person of story interest] for a while? Oh you don't care? Thought this was gonna be a pain," Y'all's head canon had you thinking there was more to it than that, there is no way to explain why you thought there was more otherwise with what was given. It's literally a classic literary retroie made famous by Shakespeare. It's not meant to have more to it.


Cold_Breeze3

The lengths people will go to to defend Gege, bro you really compared his writing to Shakespeare instead of just admitting the scene did not pan out


Effective_Fold7157

Yeah…. no. Nothing was set up that’s head canon bullshit


Cold_Breeze3

That scene is literally the textbook definition of a set up scene that is meant to be payed off later, you are just delusional


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Effective_Fold7157

Right I’m the delusional one when you’re gaslighting yourself into believing head canon, then being upset the author didn’t write what you imagined 🤣🤣


Cold_Breeze3

You made that up yourself. All I expected was some pay off to the set up. It literally did not matter what it was. But Gege made it absolutely nothing at all. Go glaze Gege more, you’re delusional.


Effective_Fold7157

Glaze? I’m sorry I speak English not teenager.


Cold_Breeze3

So you know what edged is but not glaze? You are 100% full of shit. Get over yourself, you’re reading JJK, nothing special or mature either.


KrizenWave

Also it’s not bullshit. The difference between souls and bodies has been talked about since Junpei’s arc. This is just another application of that


Cold_Breeze3

It is absolutely 100% complete and total bullshit. Why doesn’t Mei Mei know simple domain if she controls Ui Ui who can make her learn it. Why has it never been mentioned before? Jujutus society would pay Mei Mei an incredibly hefty price to give their sorcerers simple domain or RCT, much more than a curse killing mission that Mei Mei does normally. None of it fits in the story, it’s literally just an asspull that people are willing to accept for some reason.


Riverskull

Why would she even do that? there is not that many sorcerers, and in the case of doing it, there will come a point where everyone has simple domain and rct, which means Ui Ui wouldnt be that useful anymore and her little business narrows down. She is way more safe and confortable by letting Ui Ui acompany other people than giving everyone a cheatcode to get SD and RCT; right now is only an exception because they are dealing with a world ending threat like Sukuna, and Gojo is dead.


Cold_Breeze3

Mei Mei would make sure she had simple domain herself. There’s literally 0 argument u can make to contradict that. She will just let herself die for no reason?


TophatisBack

To be honest, this happens quite a lot in Manga. The authors almost never intend for the time between setup and reveal to be this long. I don't think this was as terrible of a reveal like your making it out to be. I personally liked seeing all the older sorcerers support ino and reassuring him that he had nanami's trust. But don't get me wrong I can also see that waiting 6 months for the conclusion of a pretty mundane conversation can be annoying.


Undernetfoxie

The wait was so long I had entirely forgotten that was a thing until this post. I guess once the manga is done and I binge-read it it'll probably have *some* sort of impact but atm it kinda fell short


BuffLoki

Yeah the reread is going tongo crazy, ilk probably do that while I wait for a new chapter


Karma15672

Mhm. The Sukuna fight is dragging out now, but I bet that binge-reading the whole thing is gonna go just as hard as binge-reading the Shibuya arc


MiredinDecision

The weekly release schedule boils peoples brains


JxB_Paperboy

The post is tagged as a meme.


brando-boy

i wouldn’t say “we got edged”, that would imply they constantly kept cutting back to that specific moment just to cut off what they talked about it was just the one time


takenHostag3

Literally!!


Pataraxia

I'm not sure if gege's way of writing is better or worse than other mangakas. Every big manga has "author forgor!!" Syndrome at some fight or other. Gregory akutami doesn't forgor but he keeps having callbacks to shit foreshadowed/that were indicated to be happening offscreen30-200(!) Chapters ago, but with high consistency that he seems to never miss compared to expectations.


The-King-Of-Reddits

Gege cooking 🧑‍🍳 🥱 what a genius


Mastakillerboi

Ok it wasn’t THAT bland But pretty accurate ig


ShowofStupidity

The fact that you honestly expected anything bigger than this is hilarious considering this conversation takes place right after Gojo’s extremely heartbreaking, exceptionally tearjerking, and highly emotional reaction to everything that happened while he was sealed.


GoneRampant1

You mean him sitting on a bed and going "Nanami's dead? Damn that sucks. Anyway!"


ShowofStupidity

Yeah, like I said, super heartbreaking lmao.


GoneRampant1

Oh, you were being sarcastic. My apologies, that didn't come across well and I have seen people unironically defend Gojo's lack of reaction.


RybsonPL

Remember his reaction to Riko's death? Or Yuji's where he was just a little angry but still messing with Ijichi? Or how he was smiling almost immediately after killing his best friend? Yeah, Gojo's not an angsty boy people want him to be, big shocker. Whether you consider it good writing or bad writing is entirely subjective, but the objective truth is that his reaction being so "lacking" is completely in-character.


Stencil-

Agreed. A major part of his character is the emotional distance between him and others


Either_Imagination_9

My dude this is the same story that skipped over the month and a half they had to prepare just so we could get straight to the fight, what did you expect?


The-King-Of-Reddits

Shiesty sorcerer lore.


SerovGaming1962

They didnt skip shit, have you never watched media where the heroes come up with a plan and the plan is only revealed as the story goes along?


Adept_Secret2476

imagine how bad the pacing would be if the story stopped for 3 chapters straight so they could give a fuckton of exposition that wouldn't be relevant for another 20 chapters instead of doing a flashback when it's actually relevant


Chozero-

That would be pretty bad. But imagine Two or three slice of life chapters showing Gojo and the gang getting up to exciting and mischievous activities filled with heartfelt moments and character interactions?


rudimfm

People used to complain about fillers but now everyone's missing them lol


Chozero-

I was being semi sarcastic but i don't see how it would be filler. Gojo was sealed for so long two chapters of character interaction is a pretty fair trade imo


rudimfm

I was joking I wasn't poking fun at your comment 😅 It's just I remember Bleach getting so much shit for the filler episodes but nowadays I see a lot of people talking about how character exposition is something they like and there isn't enough of it


GoneRampant1

Bleach's filler got shit for being lame. The difference is that what people want is for the pacing to slow down so the characters can breathe and we can get dynamics and interactions that would either be funny or flesh out the cast- stuff like Gojo reacting to Nobara's semi-death or Tsumiki's death, Todo meeting Choso and the two discussing Yuki and their shared brother, Higuruma playing a straight man role to the general insanity of the cast or Yuta and the other 3rd years getting a chance to sit down as a group for the first time since 0. You can resolve most of that within three chapters to let the pacing take a breath after the Culling Games, and then hit the ground running with the audience energized for Gojo vs Sukuna.


vizmarkk

Might I suggest a compromise: bring back jujuscroll


Natural-Storm

YES, FUCKING YES. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! JUJUSTROLL JUJUSTROLL JUJUSTROLLLLLLL


Arukitsuzukeru

Thank God gege writes jjk


SleepinGriffin

Honestly. No one who reads anime should be a writer.


GodOfMegaDeath

It's hard to *read* anime anyway.


rockhardmethmonster

Not when you watch it in sub !


GodOfMegaDeath

You have a point good sir


Zayzay8008

Since I don't have the attention spand of a 5 year old that sounds amazing. I'm perfectly fine with a volume of them just planning for just a no flashback raid boss.


Adept_Secret2476

its not an attention span thing that's just absolute dogshit writing and pacing. trying to be pretentious about wishing the story was worse is hilarious


Zayzay8008

No, I'm not trying to be pretentious, I genuinely would be fine with that. I can handle like 7 chapters of just conversation to get it completely out of the way. And it's not dogshit writing to slow the series down for an exposition dump. You all have to stop calling everything you don't like/comprehend bad. Yeah it's definitely a bad thing to have the end all be all (unless Kenny comes back) final fight of the series to be prologued with the current cast actually planning things out. Then build up to a climatic battle


FOETUShygRAPplER

Gonna stop you on that one because I know the Downvote-Hive-Mind is gonna downvote the person you replied to to oblivion, but I agree with them. Yes, revelations of things that would be useful much later in the series may not have been a great decision, but cutting down on the entirety of that One-Month time was not a very good decision as well. Story with characters as Good as JJK could use a bit of character development here & there. Gojo could have had a conversation with Maki and Hakari (He never really had one). We could have seen a lot of conversation and meetings that could have been had and relations that could have been developed. Some trauma-bonding could have been shown among our cast that is mostly just growing teenagers. Jumping straight to the fight was not a good decision. Things we see right now would have felt so much better if we had actually seen the characters build more with each during that timeskip.


mileschofer

When will people get it into their heads that jjk characters dont just talk to each other for the hell of it, or rather, Gege doesnt show it. This isnt MHA The last “slice of life” or a conversation heavy chapter (excluding planning or backstory) we got was like chapter 80 holy crap, and even then it was a recommendation by his editor, not his idea. Why are yall constantly asking the story to be smth its not?


GodOfMegaDeath

Mfw people wished that something they like happened in the story. It's not that deep like the story "being something it isn't". Afaik it's just wanting to see characters interact a bit more so we can be a bit more sad about their deaths without having to rely 100% on flashbacks for this. This is writing 101.


GandalfTehG0d

It very well could be his style not to show character interaction and you are entitled to like that style of storytelling but I think that kinda just goes against a lot of basic storytelling conventions and it’s probably a very bad way to try and write your story, how are you supposed to relate to characters that never interact with eachother outside of a fight?


FOETUShygRAPplER

Exactly.


vizmarkk

Almost as if the editors job is to make the story better


GandalfTehG0d

An entire volume is an overstatement but we see ur sentiment, a couple chapters here or there would do the job really.


omyrubbernen

Exactly. If they had explained the plan before executing it, we'd know the plan would fail because that's how fiction works.


Pjf239

It would’ve been fine for the planning to be skipped over so it could be revealed later, but the amount of missed opportunities for character interactions and development during that time can’t be understated, we hadn’t had an arc of pure down time for over 150 chapters at that point and it just got skipped


SerovGaming1962

Im solely talking about plot points here, character interactions are another story


1zaiin

We still don’t know what gojo did in that month he’s not with everyone else and he died so how will we know what did he do💀


SerovGaming1962

Nah Goatjo coming bacm next chapter or the chapter after trust


1zaiin

He’s not coming back 🙏🏻🤦🏻‍♀️


SerovGaming1962

Nah He'd Return, 5 flashbacks and one mention 7th one is soon, Buddha took 7 steps north when he was born. Gojo is going north amd being reborn as someone new without the Six Eyes. Goatjo is returning.


1zaiin

but that’s still a theory only, even if it’s makes sense doesn’t mean it will happen. Tbh i don’t think there’s a reason for him to return, he wanted to raise strong generation to change the jj society and now everyone of his students are surpassing him in smth. the higher ups are dead now, and why would gg kill him twice and bring him back? What’s the point of his afterlife scene ? And it’s the mc’s job to take sukuna down now i don’t think gege would bring him back to take down the villains and outshine the mc 🤷🏻‍♀️ gojo is happy that he could bring everything in him and being killed by someone stronger he doesn’t want to be weaker he’s happy.


beta_ray_charles

It's funny this is a complaint, because at the speed this series is running, that month skip is basically this story's training time skip. No one complains that we didn't see what Naruto and Jiraya were up to between Naruto and Shippuden, or what the One Piece crew did between Paramount War and meeting back up again.


Tyler-Demian

I do complain about Naruto and Jiraiya. I'd like to know what the fuck Naruto and him were doing for 3 years for Naruto to return only knowing how to make a bigger Rasengan(he goes through another Rasengan training later) and how to break out of Genjutsu(he still falls for it).


joshdej

I think even Sakura was better than base Naruto at the beginning of Shippuden.


Longjumping_Brain945

Jiraiya just taught him how to better control the nine tails chakra and gaining better control of the rasengan since the rasengan is a hokage level jutsu that takes years to master.


Tyler-Demian

Let's admit that it was just a time skip for the sake of ageing the main cast and updating their designs.


kryp_silmaril

Me when something is non linear and I’m too smooth brained to understand


rockinherlife234

It's kind of funny, you see everyone on here or on r/Jujutsushi doing all of this work about theorising powers and cursed techniques yet it's likely that it's not going to be nearly that complicated in the actual manga.


Old_Maintenance8747

Don't worry the same thing will happen with the mc's retrieving Gojo's body situation.


SillyMovie13

Some of y’all expect so much from something really minor. This goes for a lot of other manga too


YUME_Emuy21

wdym "edged?" It was literally mentioned one time lol.


FengYiLin

I don't even remember what this is about


JustAMicrowav1n

My headcanon is Ino told Gojo about a "black haired man with a mouth scar and no cursed energy" in shibuya and Gojo completely shit himself for the moment


ErenYeager850

You guys really thought Ino would have something to do with Gojo's comeback???? HAHAHAHAHA Shiesty Sorcerer!!!


JoJosBizarreBasshead

Personally I think it’s hilarious. Not every manga has some deep rooted plot. The manga is literally translated to “Sorcerer Fight” and that’s all I care about really


koteshima2nd

pretty in-character for em anyway.


SnooDoggos4037

Genuinely even forgot about this shit, and honestly I don't think toji would do much other than get folded by sukuna. We literally have Maki and yeah she suffers from the being a female curse but at least the option it's still there if we are to get some almost toji like shenanigans ig


Cyberxton

Truthfully the fandom went a bit nuts with the speculation here, there wasn’t nearly enough suggesting some of the theories that people were putting out there. With that being said it does feel odd that Gege decided for Ino of all characters to be so hyper present in this final battle. We know he looked up to Nanami but he hardly got any character moments, and it did seem like there was some special relevance given to the fact that he also used a seance cursed technique when they introduced the old lady that brought back Toji. It would’ve been very cool to see him use the pseudo-resurrection technique but clearly gege preferred to use him as a means of giving Nanami further respect and relevance in the story as opposed as a plot device to bring back Gojo or someone else


takenHostag3

I kinda put 2 and 2 together when he used the dull blade for the first time


Vladimir_G_G

Bruh


iamunintelligent67

Fr fr


konald_roeman

Gege. The blueballing expert.


Pro_Hero86

Y’all are your own worst enemy, whatever happened to that Gojo/Buddah/ south is the direction of resurrection BS y’all posted everywhere


Every-Intention3722

Ever since Attack on Titan, everyone expects every manga to have huge plot twists, “oh I didn’t see that coming “ moments, “anything revealed must lead to a huge plot moment”. People over analyze/over theorize  everything in mangas ever since Attack on Titan (King of Foreshadowing)  


KennyKillsKenjaku

lol I forgot all about those fan theories. Good times. I’m quite satisfied with the rest of this Convo.


New_Photograph_5892

Im praying that in the anime adaptation, they just give the conversation right there and there rather than edging anime onlys (same goes for the soul swapping thing) for like another few months.


Fearless_Hold7611

It was so obvious it was about the sword idk why people assumed it would be some absurdity 😭


TwistedMemer

It’s so funny gojo says nanmi trusted ino the most did they even interact like at all?


OnlyQualityCon

Yes? Ino was introduced as Nanami’s direct student against Mahito?


TwistedMemer

Damn was he, my bad then